Tonight we turn Trump’s shiny new 28-point “peace plan” into a sarcastic multiple-choice test. Does Zelensky sign away Crimea, Donbass and half the army, or play the heroic loser and keep bleeding for Brussels? We walk through all 28 points, the golden-toilet corruption circus in Kiev, the likely fall of Pokrovsk, and how Washington plans to blame Ukraine when this deal dies. Spoiler: Russia gets almost everything it asked for in 2022 – plus interest. International Flavor: Where the Truth Just Tastes Better.
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We interrupt this incredibly awesome music to bring
you some incredibly awesome political talk on damn
radio Hello Good evening.
Welcome I'm Samuel trap.
This is international flavor.
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Feel free to call me 5 7 3
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Get ready because I believe after the Thanksgiving
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Holiday That I think I'm gonna be going
straight into the morning hour 730 to 9
o'clock We shall see What shall be
seen?
And it'll be very exciting.
So all the news today at least this
evening has been all About the 28-point
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plan.
So last night I talked a little bit
about What it was, but nobody knew what
it was Nobody knew well now people know
it's been leaked.
Of course, which nothing could ever be just
put out by the proper I don't know
what A Proper source maybe would be the
old president would be somebody Somewhere in the
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government, but it's always leaked and this was
leaked somehow Axios got it and then there
were but but everybody was talking about it
Anyway, like they had seen it they had
read it, but they didn't have it and
he couldn't talk about last night there were
some people I went through a good number
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of Shows today and Was seeing what various
people were saying both in Russia All over
the world.
I read an Al Jazeera piece.
It was pretty cool.
That was talking about whether or not we
were Going to see the end of a
war anytime soon and I did like the
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way they framed some of the questions because
for me it's I I think it's important
in fact here I am sitting in the
real estate of the art studio and they're
showing, you know on JR's TV stuff gonna
be Distracting me.
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I think I'm gonna shut them off drive
me crazy but there are various different people
saying different things about the peace plan and
I've been talking about The corruption scandal in
Ukraine for a while that dudes on his
last legs and I thought I would start
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with the golden toilet, right So, I don't
know if you guys have paid attention to
this, but the golden toilets of Ukraine are
are all over Telegram, I don't know that
I've shared them before but there's an article
by a guy named Andre Rudenko and The
story is called behind the Ukrainian golden toilet
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because they were showing pictures of the places
where this Mindik and some other people were
sitting and so his article is kind of
a play on that nonsensical nonsense, and it's
good stuff because Putin today Something also pretty
funny So I'm gonna share two short stories
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with you before we get our articles before
we get into the 28-point peace plan,
which apparently like I surmised the last couple
of days is gonna be forced upon the
old Z monster because he maybe Maybe the
old trumpster did plan all of this.
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Maybe so if so Maybe he'll get some
do from me, especially if he sticks with
his 28-point plan and But let's get
first to the story behind the Ukrainian golden
toilet there's only one way to fix the
disease of the Ukrainian state written by a
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guy named Andre Rudenko and It's it's it's
really not very long.
I may skip around a little bit, but
these are pretty funny the West's Slow turn
away from Vladimir Zelensky is no longer a
speculation It's happening in plain sight like a
steamroller moving slowly but with absolute certainty The
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Financial Times hardly a Kremlin mouthpiece has published
a piece titled bags of cash and a
gold toilet the corruption crisis engulfing Zelensky's government
Its reporters now openly state that Ukrainian elites
expect even more explosive revelations from the Naboo
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investigations and Once outlets like the Financial Times
Put something like this to print it usually
means the groundwork has been laid behind the
scenes That Western Europe and the United States
are still approving new aid says little about
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confidence in Kiev It says far more about
bureaucratic inertia and the reluctance of those who
profit from war To let the tap suddenly
close Even so you can now hear cautious
whispers in Brussels asking whether it makes sense
To send billions to a government whose officials
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are determined to steal the money before it
arrives These are not new Revelations the only
surprise is that anyone pretends to be surprised
The truth is simple the West knew exactly
who it was dealing with Nobody in Washington
or Brussels was under the illusion that Ukraine
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was Switzerland They knowingly entered into a political
partnership with what is and has long been
one of the most corrupt and internally unstable
political systems in Europe To pretend otherwise is
theater for more than 30 years Ukrainian statehood
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is rested on the same shaky foundation competing
clans oligarchy rule privatized security services and a
political class willing to plunder their own population
Gina sounds like ours changing presidents never altered
the underlying structure Sounds like ours too because
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each leader owed his position to the same
network of cash patronage and force Doesn't that
sound like us?
Take Leonid Kravchuk under him Ukraine began to
slow banditization and Bandera of ski are the
the Nazis While state assets were siphoned away
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and local power brokers entrenched themselves Leonid Kuchma
then perfected this system under his presidency Ukraine
saw dubious arms deals the murder of journalists
and opposition figures and audiotapes revealing orders to
eliminate critics economic sectors with predictable profits were
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carved up among regional clans who ruled their
fiefdoms in exchange for loyalty and a steady
stream of kickbacks to Kiev Victor you Yushenko's
years brought more of the same corruption schemes
around energy political assassination and the continued exploitation
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of ordinary Ukrainians Victor Yanukovych and Petro Poroshenko
added their own layer to this architecture of
rot Zelensky inherited it and then accelerated it
Surrounding himself with loyalist whose main Qualification was
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their willingness to feed at the trough and
look the other way All of these leaders
shared one priority resisting federalization at any cost
a Federal Ukraine would devolve power and financial
control to the regions and that is a
nightmare scenario For Kiev elites, it would loosen
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their grip on revenue streams limit their political
leverage and allow Regional identities to express themselves
without the fear of punishment from the center
So instead of reform they offered forced Ukrainization
attacks on the Russian language and nationalist show
slogans about one people one language One state
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it was a political survival strategy not a
nation building project That is why Changing presidents
won't fix anything Remove Zelensky and you get
another figure from the same system perhaps illusiony
perhaps a recycled face from a previous era
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the Choreography will be identical only the masks
will change The deeper problem is the structure
of Ukrainian statehood itself as long as Ukraine
Remains in its current unitary form.
It will continue producing conflict corruption and internal
Instability war is not an aberration of such
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a system It is an outcome if the
elites refuse to reform and the population has
no means to compel them to do So
then the discussion must move beyond personalities the
uncomfortable truth is that the only lasting solution
May be to abandon the current model of
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Ukrainian statehood altogether Because no cosmetic change will
save a system designed from birth to decay
You got to admit that's a pretty harsh
Article By mr.
Andrei Rudenko and you know unfortunately quite a
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bit is true, so Putin has one other
small part that I want him that he
talked about there's a lot of talk about
people abandoning Ukraine nowadays Nordic nations say the
Sweden says this that the Ukraine burden is
unsustainable Poland is stirring war hysteria Ukrainian murder
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plots using chemical weapons are foiled Let's see
Quite a few but let's quickly share with
you this story about Ukraine being led by
a criminal gang on golden potties according to
Putin Ukrainian leaders do not care about the
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fate of their own country the Russian president
says Ukrainian leaders have devolved into a criminal
gang while sitting on their golden potties Russian
president Putin has said the president made these
remarks on Thursday while visiting a command post
for troops fighting in the Ukraine Conflict in
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his address to the commanding officers Putin touched
upon a massive graft crisis that has been
unfolding in Ukraine This is not a political
leadership of Ukraine.
It is a criminal gang that holds power
for personal enrichment It's clear to everyone that
these people sitting on their golden potties are
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Hardly thinking about the fate of common people
in Ukraine or the fate of ordinary soldiers
Putin stated referring to Timur Mindy the ally
of Vladimir Zelensky the one they call the
wallet Who fled the country hours before he
was due to be arrested for extortion?
Who had a gilded a gilded toilet in
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his elite Kiev apartment?
The massive graft scandal enfolded in Ukraine last
week I'm not going to cover the rest
of that.
I've covered that for several days Dmitry Peskov
said the Kiev regime is obviously going off
the rails said Dmitry Peskov on Tuesday, that's
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hardly a Ukrainian internal matter anymore That's foreign
money being stolen So it's a there's the
tide is definitely turning friends and neighbors, so
when I first started reviewing the 28 point
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plan I Couldn't get to I couldn't find
the full 28 paragraphs I Have them now,
you know, I have the complete list Which
we'll go over with you in a little
bit but I wanted to talk a little
bit more about Bob Polk Pokrovsk Mirna grad
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the places that we've been talking about that
are in Zaparizhia or in her son or
What do you call it the Donetsk Lugansk
in the Donbass area because it is important
and I was saying, you know, I was
basically quizzing All Of the videos that I
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watched and Wondering what about the fall of
Pokrovsk and is Pokrovsk gone already or not?
There's now been Western Journalists and others go
in and there's plenty of videos of Russians
and southern Russian soldiers all over southern Pokrovsk
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So for the Zelensky regime to do what
it's been doing and say, oh no, that's
crazy where we have them But on the
ground inside of Pokrovsk Russian sources including the
Ministry of Defense are talking about Pokrovsk and
Krasnoarmeysk as encircled and under Russian control and
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say That Ukrainian forces are bottled up around
Mirna grad the and those two cities are
I suppose you'd call them sister cities.
They're not all that far apart from each
other The Russian Ministry of Defense video geo
located by Reuters shows Russian soldiers Patrolling freely
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through the southern parts of the city and
no visible Ukrainian presence Ukraine calls this a
gray zone, but that's usually the word you
use when you're already in trouble according to
Reuters Western military trackers ISW Institute study war
have been noting for weeks that Russia has
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the initiative in Pokrovsk while Ukraine has severe
manpower Munition problems.
We've been following that here.
Yeah In strict military terms Russia has the
momentum the artillery the numbers Zelensky himself admits
Ukrainian troops are badly outnumbered Ukrainian reserves are
thin they have other fronts to hold in
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Kharkiv Zaporizhzhia, etc So unless Kiev does one
of two things pulls out in time and
trades land for saving troops or Somehow finds
fresh forces and more ammo that nobody has
available Then the loss of Pokrovsk is just
a matter of time It's not an if
from the Russian side of the equation The
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battle is already being described in the past
tense and From most of the mappers, that's
true.
Even the Ukrainian mappers are showing 90%
of Pokrovsk under Russian control So from a
political standpoint, nobody in Kiev is gonna say
Pokrovsk is gone until long after the map
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makes it obvious But on an operational level
the city is doomed Unless there's some kind
of a miracle or political deal and it
appears that the political big deal is gonna
Kick their rear ends if after I should
tell you about that little tidbit So what
we see is the US reporting in live
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updates are describing Trump as frustrated with both
sides That's been going on for a while,
but he's talking about Lasting peace he's more
frustrated with with the Z monster than he
is with Putin and he says that He's
pushing for a lasting peace and pushing his
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28-point plan, which we're gonna get to
like I said Russia and for their point
their officials are openly saying that the conflict
is now Trump's not Biden's and they've been
saying that for a while I've been saying
that for a while and that Moscow is
ready to negotiate if Washington is serious and
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Moscow hasn't slammed the the 28-point draft
you know their their line is more like
we haven't confirmed it, but we are open
to dialogue on it, so Code and diplomacy
that means we can work with this with
some edits, you know, they're still Not quite
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there and I don't after reviewing it.
I don't think they're going to be but
it'll be close Trump keeps swinging between let
Ukraine win everything back One day and the
next he's freeze the lines and give Russia
the Donbass Putin wants something Closer to his
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original war aims.
He wants recognition of Crimea.
He wants to full Donbass He wants a
neutral Ukraine.
He wants limits on Ukrainian military.
No NATO the new plan covers most of
these things So Trump's real impatience appears to
be with Zelensky in Europe For not taking
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the deal immediately and with the fact that
he hasn't turned it into a quick win.
He can brag about So Putin is being
more hard-nosed business negotiator pressure over tomahawks
sanctions, etc pressure over energy Escalation bricks on
the other if you're looking for a headline
Trump isn't breaking with Putin He's trying to
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arm twist Kiev and Brussels into swallowing a
settlement that locks in Russian gains But does
let him claim that he ended the war
so that's a part of it There's a
bunch of stuff about tomahawks and given more
Everybody's been talking about the other option would
be to give Kiev all of this Long
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-range equipment to continue bombing inside of Russia,
but that's an escalation that is a very
bad plan And before we get to this
28-point plan, and I only say this
because Trump is like I don't know a
weather vane, you know Whichever way the wind
blows today is the way he's pointing and
so at least on the Ukraine conflict in
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So we we shall see Let's talk about
all of the times that in this and
most of this came from the because I'll
just hear I put together a Pretty cool
article.
It's like we don't know which way he's
going either and who knows if this new
one will stick It was an interesting article.
I'm not gonna share the whole thing with
you.
It's too long, but the They talk about
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his during his campaign and his early presidency
on the trail he claimed he'd end the
war in 24 hours Later, he admitted that
this was You know according to Wikipedia anyway
creative marketing And in February of 2025 he
had an Oval Office meeting with Zelensky remember
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that and that that debacle Public and leaked
accounts described Trump scolding Zelensky for not being
grateful we saw that and telling him is
in no position to dictate terms and Implied
that Ukraine needed to give up land that
was in February in August Both sides have
to cede some territory put Trump floated land
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swaps Ukraine gives up territory Russia gives back
some smaller pieces everyone signs a ceasefire you
know that's from Reuters and then Zelensky and
European leaders immediately reject this idea Ukraine's Constitution
according to the Z monster doesn't allow trading
territory away.
That was from the Washington Post September the
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23rd Ukraine can win it all back.
Do you remember that nonsense?
Oh Ukraine can win it all back This
is a new phase after meeting Zelensky at
the UN Trump suddenly says Ukraine can reclaim
all territory lost since 2022 with EU and
NATO backing and posts about returning to the
Original borders of where this war started that
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was Reuters as well That was a brief
moment when his rhetoric lined up with more
Kiev, you know more with Kiev in Brussels
very very small in October he then pivoted
again suggested freezing the war at the current
front lines and leaving negotiations Over status of
occupied regions for later Russia rejected this it
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wants to full Donbass and some more Okay,
and then in November this leaked 28-point
plan and we're to the end and remember
what comes tomorrow tomorrow is the 90-day
end of when these sanctions are supposed to
take place in India China bunch of the
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places that they were given a 90-day
reprieve, right?
Remember all of this that these are going
to be some serious sanctions that are supposed
to take place tomorrow If I do remember
the date right this is cool cool let's
see, but according to axios AP plus the
Al Jazeera of article that I read all
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and there were plenty more that I Listen
to online and whatnot Russia is getting what
what they will get.
Okay This is this is the leaked part
of the 28-point plan I have the
full text of it below what they get
and I'll go through all 28 but Russia
gets formal control of Crimea and all of
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the Donbass, okay, Including some of the areas
it doesn't yet physically hold they have all
of Lugansk and almost all of Donetsk But
they will have the plan calls for Ukraine
to give it all up, right?
Then Ukraine pulls its forces out of the
Donbass entirely and the region becomes a demilitarized
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zone Current front lines in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson
are frozen pending future talks Ukrainian army is
capped at 400,000 troops according to Al
Jazeera It's 400 to 600 according to the
28-point plan in a couple other places,
right?
And they're stripped of any long-range strike
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capability NATO Enlargement is further constrained.
There are strong hints of a block on
Ukrainian membership.
I think it's in there actually in return
the US security guarantee for what's left of
Ukraine and Europe some kind of non-aggression
arrangement and access to portions of the Russian
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frozen assets This is interesting So we'll get
to that in just a second because the
way the finances come out Trump's the god
-emperor of the planet, right?
This is good stuff Because I always thought
I was the god-emperor of the planet,
but apparently not if you are into Frank
Herbert, you will know that God Emperor is
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a title from his science fiction writings anyway
Russian news on this blunt, you know Take
from all of this is the plan meets
many of Russia's core security demands and it
would force Ukraine to give up large parts
of its sovereignty and Territory while the EU
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complains it has been kept in the dark,
right?
So if we strip away the noise from
this, what do we get?
We get a vague promise of quick peace
and no details we get him Experiments with
different formulas land swaps total Ukraine so if
this is really Trump the deal-maker and
Trump posturing this entire time going back and
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forth and quietly working with the Russians I
Wonder III truly wonder because if it ends
up this way then that sounds pretty likely
that he was doing something along here, but
I Don't know maybe somebody who is a
Trumpster so not that I'm not a supporter
but a Trumpster Backer far more than me
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to a hundred to a hundred and ten
percent when I'm only a 70 to 80
percent Maybe they would know but now we
got a fairly concrete scheme that lurks pretty
close to what Russia said early on in
the war What what?
This is the Don or the Istanbul plus
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concept that was rejected by Bojo Boris Johnson
way back when and the Biden administration Nonsense,
and so what have we done except kill
off a million?
Ukrainians and a good number of Russians I
don't believe it's anywhere near as high but
you know, I may be wrong in that
respect, but I doubt it Um, so this
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is an American guarantee and so the story
from the Russian point of view is that
Washington spent three years denying Moscow's red lines
and now it's trying to sell those exact
same red lines back to Ukraine and Europe
as Trump's peace plan This is the Trump
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peace plan given the EU will almost certainly
reject the initial draft Which is why even
Western analysis are calling it more of a
starting gun For a diplomatic blame game than
a Finnish settlement if they say no Trump
gets to say I offered peace and they
chose more war So there were some good
stories on that Reuters said That you know
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shows the Russian soldiers walking freely through but
Krovsk Al Jazeera says Ukraine facing exhausting battles
in the Zaporizhzhia and Donetsk And then Russia
hitting Ukraine with overnight attacks happens every single
night so I went and I I listened
to One of my favorites over there the
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Solovyov.
I listened to a two and a half
hour Um Maria's a hot about the her
she gave her Ministry of Foreign Affairs briefing
and I listened to that most of it
and then We were there's some stuff about
Kellogg and his his retiring at the end
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of the year Like I was telling you
last night.
We're talking about Istanbul Plus.
There's a guy named Marcus Alex that I
like to listen to And I have the
full text of Trump's 28 points that came
out on Axios earlier and Al Jazeera that
I read to you about and then so
I'm gonna start with the plan itself and
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then about how it's being used to squeeze
the Z monster then go with the strict
Russian side of it and Then talk about
some more middle-of-the-road errs If
you strip down what the 28-point plan
actually says Let's see.
You know what?
I think I'll take you through all 28
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I wasn't going to but I think I
will Let's see here According to Axios here
it is Short Short version.
Okay, because they had a little bit more
in there But we are to confirm that
Ukraine stays sovereign as a state, okay, that's
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number one there will be a non-aggression
pact between Russia Ukraine and Europe that closes
out all past disputes Russia pledges no invasions
NATO halts further expansion Gee, there's a surprise.
Maybe we put that into a treaty number
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four u.s Mediated NATO Russia security dialogue
to manage tension and de-escalation Very nice
US led security guarantees for Ukraine cap Ukraine's
armed forces at 600,000 there's something in
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the calculations in there, but it's a Administrative
versus fighting forces stuff like that.
So it's basically 400 ground troops or whatever
Ukraine is locked out of NATO in its
own Constitution and NATO formally rules out Ukraine's
membership.
That's number seven number eight no NATO troops
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in Ukraine There's that'd be a good one.
That's what started all this crap.
Anyway, number nine base European fighter jets in
Poland instead Poland's already a bunch of nuts.
Let's let them be there number ten details
of the u.s. Guarantee u.s. Gets
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money Get a lot of money.
The guarantee is void if Ukraine attacks Russia
or hits Moscow st Petersburg and quote without
cause and if Russia attacks again Sanctions and
recognition benefits snap back.
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So there's going to be recognition of the
territories and we'll get to that in a
second number 11 Open the EU door for
Ukraine plus temporary preferential access to EU markets
Number 12.
This one is where Trump is hoping to
shine, right?
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big reconstruction package for Ukraine New development fund
joint work on gas infrastructure rebuilding of cities
and infrastructure and resource extraction number 13 Reintegrate
Russia into the global economy Staged sanctions relief
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long term u.s. Russia economic deals and
invite Russia back into the g8 Look if
if Trump is behind this he is trying
to slam the door on bricks and bring
Russia back into Swift that Makes sense too
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and get number 14.
You're gonna love this it Trump in the
dealmaker use frozen Russian assets 100 billion goes
to a u.s. Led Ukraine rebuild fund
The u.s. Gets 50 percent of the
profits.
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Do you remember that?
we get that anyway, because Ukraine signed the
minerals deal member that and Or that's part
of it.
And then Europe has to add another 100
billion to the pot and The remaining frozen
assets go into a joint u.s. Russia
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investment fund So the u.s. Gets three
chunks Hundred billion hundred billion and then whatever
the rest is there was three hundred billion
in the original fund, right?
and who knows how much is left these
days, but all the interest on it has
gone to loans to Ukraine to be guarantee
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them he wants to Create a joint u
.s. Russia security working group to oversee compliance
I want in on that, you know, that
would be fun number 16 Russia writes a
non-aggression Toward Europe and Ukraine into its
law.
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I don't think that'll be a problem at
all number 17 extend an update u.s
Russia Nuclear arms control treaties.
That's a big deal.
That's the new start treaty Number 18 Ukraine
Recommits to being a non-nuclear state under
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the nuclear proliferation treaties Number 19 and I've
talked about this quite a few times Zaporizhia
nuclear power plant restarts under IAEA International Atomic
Energy Agency Electricity is split 50-50 between
Russia and Ukraine.
So you've heard some of these before over
the last five six months, right and Now
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we're seeing them all put together number 20
Tolerance and rights package both adopt education programs
on tolerance Ukraine applies EU rules on religious
and linguistic rights that they don't have right
now Both protect Russian Ukrainian media and education
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they ban well Ukraine anyway bans this Nazi
ideology in related activity 21 the territories here's
the land Crimea Lugansk Donetsk recognized as Russian
including by the United States Herson and Zaporizhia
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the borders freeze along the current front lines
Russia quits some other occupied pockets in sue
me and Person places like that or Harkiv.
I mean in Harkiv places like that and
Ukraine withdraws from the West or from the
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rest of Donetsk that it still holds which
become a neutral Demilitarized buffer recognized as Russian
territory, but no Russian troops inside that strip
both sides 22 promise not to change these
borders by force security guarantees vanish if they
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do number 23 guarantee Ukraine's use of the
Dnipro River and Black Sea grain export routes
Because they're about to lose Possibly access to
the Black Sea which kill them financially in
a lot of ways Number 24 this one's
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fun There no, where is it?
Because well, we'll get into some more details
after I go through these last five humanitarian
Commission all for all prisoner of war and
body swaps Return of any civilian detainees or
children family reunification and victim support measures 25
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this is a big one Ukraine to hold
elections within 100 days Want to talk about
corruption there?
number 26 full wartime Amnesty for everyone no
future claims or complaints allowed meaning Russia and
all the people that it is charging Under
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criminal law like I've told you about repeatedly
They don't get you know, that doesn't happen
anymore 27 Make the deal legally binding enforced
by a Peace Council get this here comes
here.
It comes chaired by Donald Trump himself with
sanctions for violators and number 28 Ceasefire begins
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immediately once everyone signs and troops pull back
to the initial agreed-upon positions that is
all 28 friends and neighbors and that's a
a hell of a start don't you think
That's a big Fargan deal if the old
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Trumpster Can pull it off so Stripped down,
you know this security architecture in NATO Ukrainian
sovereignty is affirmed, but Ukraine has to constitutionally
Renounce NATO NATO has to formally record that
Ukraine will never be admitted NATO cannot station
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troops in Ukraine airfields nothing US mediated Russia
NATO dialogue is created to end Ambiguity and
to de-escalate and that'll be chaired by
the old Trumpster I kind of like that
idea in other words Ukraine is permanently non
-aligned and off of the NATO Expansion menu,
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which is what?
Moscow is wanted from day one Ukraine's military
and status that's another chunk of them, right?
Ukrainian Armed Forces capped Axio says 600,000
as a hard ceiling, but a lot of
the other ones are saying, you know, they
have to have the Current force which is
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about 800 K So the numbers don't quite
line up But the direction is a huge
cut and Ukraine has to give up certain
classes of long-range weapons There's going to
be no attack comes no tomahawk style No
storm shadows.
No nothing like that.
Ukraine has to stay Non-proliferation, they can't
have any nuclear related stuff and So from
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a practical point of view, it's an army
large enough for internal security But not large
enough to threaten any deep strikes on Russia
the territories we've laid out before and Crimea
Donetsk Luzon Lugansk recognized as Russian even in
the u.s. And then the other ones
Are just hypothetical future talks you can talk
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about them and Ukraine has to withdraw from
You know, don't ask we've already talked about
that So here is This is where it's
it's interesting.
So you won't talk about the Biden family
making a buttload of cash in in Ukraine,
let's switch to the Trump Kushner angle, right
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and who gets a cut now a Hundred
billion in frozen assets of Russian assets get
to be used in a u.s. Led
Reconstruction fund u.s. Gets 50% of
the profits from that Europe is supposed to
add another hundred billion and the rest of
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the Russian at funds Go into the u
.s. Joint investment and and what are they
going to do with this?
Allegedly AI Arctic minerals energy building Infrastructure stuff
like that and Russia gets to come back
home, right?
lift to sanctions long-term economic cooperation with
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the u.s. and energy resources and tech
and invited back to the g8 and Ukraine
gets to join the EU, right?
so From a Russian point of view Washington
tries to turn Russian assets into a Wall
Street profit machine and bolt Russia back into
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the globalist System in exchange for giving them
territory and ending the war and lifting sanctions
They get it come back in.
I Wonder how China in India will feel
about that Frankly Europe and in Ukraine aren't
gonna go for this anyway And so Trump
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can just wash his hands from it and
go well, I've You know, I've done my
best, you know, here it is No No,
what do you call it Pulitzer for you?
Is it Pulitzer what is it Nobel I'm
sorry, no peace prize for you, but there
you go And then there's a bunch of
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fluff body exchanges elections full amnesty Blah blah
blah Peace Council with Donald Trump guaranteeing enforcement
So from the Washington Slash Trump camp Axios
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Wall Street Journal All say this is Trump's
serious fully flushed out plan drafted by Whitkoff
with input from Rubio and Kushner in consultation
with Kirill Dmitriev Russian Remember when he came
over a little bit ago month ago less
than that u.s. Officials say it's not
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easy for Ukraine But they insist that if
Kiev refuses It will lose even more land
And that's true, you know, they'll they'll be
lucky to have any Black Sea access if
they don't and because Russia's moving Well Zelensky
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is being caught let's call it nudged Toward
reality.
He's got to get toward reality and publicly
they get his say we're ending the war
There's going to be durable peace security Guarantees
the usual sugarcoating on what is basically a
dictated settlement to the old Z monster so
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the Basically everyone that I've seen on the
West is echoing exactly this point and it
then the the unfortunate point for this is
that What this proposal is is the same
thing that some that Moscow?
Demanded a long time ago and What Zelensky
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has already called?
Capitulation and but Washington is now reselling it
as Trump piece But it also says that
Zelensky's corruption scandal in this battlefield You know
Losses that are going on now aren't helping
him any so in Moscow on the other
hand Peskov is Being cool says Kremlin hasn't
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seen any new terms of any new plan
Nothing beyond our earlier talks Putin's June 24
terms still stand NATO Renunciation withdrawal from the
four regions blah blah blah same old stuff
Zakharova today and in the in in tasks
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and Al Jazeera They say that the Ministry
of Foreign Affairs is aware of media speculation
But has not received any official u.s.
Proposal and that such things must go through
official channels and not leaks Unofficially Russian TV
and Russian, you know What do you call
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it?
for contact you and Rutube all of them
you can I watched one called In In
Russian, of course, but the pool the peace
plan from 28 points.
This is a great roasting the the step
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the the path to the White House they
frame it as get this a Desperate PR
move by Trump after he has taken a
few domestic political hits Epstein hearings congressional moves
that have been against him it's an attempt
to turn Ukraine into a bargaining chip to
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save Trump politically and This guy's pretty pro
-ukrainian by the way and a plan that
is actually very favorable to Russia on the
ground But they're trying to sell it as
balanced.
Okay, this guy's a The one I'm telling
you about is a very Ukrainian point of
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view Russian commentators say The plan codifies Russian
gains forces Ukraine to disarm and gives Russia
a path back to the g8 financial system
without conceding anything fundamental and Solovyov the guy
who watched that has done the very political
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commentators He says that this is proof that
the West is exhausted and that Ukraine has
already been defeated Militarily and the eight the
28 points are are clumsy and a late
recognition of something that they already offered and
had on the table and partially agreed to
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in Istanbul in 2022 until Bojo destroyed it
if this had happened it would have you
know, this is similar to what they agreed
upon way back then and And there's a
written part of it that goes with it,
so what does kiv say about all this
Kiev of course says Ukrainian officials are calling
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this absurd.
It's a non-starter.
We're not going to capitulate especially the parts
about giving up the remaining parts of the
Donbass and freezing the lines in her son
is a Parisia cutting its army and giving
a Russian language and the Moscow The Russian
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Orthodox Church official status again it that is
nonsense that these people that they're saying we
will not give Russian language in the Moscow
Church the the Orthodox Church Official status isn't
that crap and what it does Lenski say
about this publicly he didn't denounce it outright
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But he says it's called the US vision
he claims He will give it his input
and stresses that American leadership has to remain
strong to end the war He's in trouble
politically huge and he's trying to walk a
line he won't swallow this openly But he
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ain't gonna defy Trump openly either so this
a lot of commentators, especially the Alex Mercouris
that I like to listen to the British
guy he Has had a an article if
you get a chance you could get on
YouTube and watch what he's had He has
one that says that was titled today Kiev
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defeats force the u.s. U-turn and
he wants they want to force Kiev to
accept Istanbul plus and He talked about Kellogg
quitting too, but basically his his point and
mine, too Is that 20 the 28-point
plan is really Istanbul plus this is what
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they had in 2022 after Ukraine's failed offensive
and continued losses The u.s. Is u
-turning and accepting Moscow's core demands because the
battlefield is X is forcing somebody to accept
reality and I don't know why they haven't
yet anyway But you know here we are
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still funding a losing war nonsense But that's
our our history, right?
Kellogg has quit going to Kiev.
He's done with that and he's Symbolizing that
the u.s. Team itself knows they can't
sell unlimited war to Congress anymore What are
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the Europeans crying about now, let's let's let's
listen to them whine They are angry because
they were cut out of the Negotiation.
Well, I don't know that there really was
any but there are claims that Russia was
involved in this with Whitkoff and a couple
others the plan makes no demands of Russia
according to them and is heavily tilted toward
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Russia and Tells Europe to live with a
truncated Ukraine and a renormalized Russia The Europeans
are worried.
They'll be left holding the security bag if
u.s. Attention moves on with Trump acting
as a Peace Council boss while the EU
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pays the Reconstruction Bill and Absorbs a broken
client state.
They're the ones to want the broken client
state We don't want him, but I don't
I think it's nonsense So Mearsheimer the The
I think he's a professor, but he has
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one.
It's called Ukraine and reality, right?
He says several points.
He said he and I know he's been
saying it for years because I followed him
for a long time He's been saying for
years that the West pushed Ukraine into an
unwinnable war by promising what it could not
deliver now, how can anybody deny that these
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days you just can't and And never should
have been denied and in the first place
and anybody in arms control Knew that's exactly
what we're doing Anybody in the Pentagon that
didn't know that was being paid to look
the other way or paid to say the
other Version of that that's it.
They're not experts they're people who are just
morons, you know, because anybody with even a
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small amount of Experience in this area knows
that what we were doing was pushing toward
war We know it.
I mean it's been going on for 30
years for God's sake so Now the u
.s. Is walking Ukraine back toward the very
deal it could have had in 2022 But
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at a much higher price tag in land
and blood Yep The basic thesis is this
isn't really peace It's the formalization of a
strategic defeat for Kiev and a major blow
to Western credibility What else could it be?
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This is what it is And if you
aren't acknowledging that you don't know anything So,
I mean this is this that's the truth
We pushed them towards this and they was
unwinnable from the get-go from the jump
they couldn't win this and Certainly, but but
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everybody is everybody's still saying the same crap
that people were saying about Russia in the
80s when they were when when they didn't
have the money when they didn't have the
technology when they didn't have the Manufacturing capability
when they didn't have any of that in
the Soviet Union was was Collapsing and all
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Reagan had to do was push on them
They still think it's the same place over
there That's the problem you have idiots Running
the show because it's not the same place
that it was 3035 years ago.
It's just not so How is this plan
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gonna be used by the old trumpster to
force Zelensky's hand, let's let's let's get to
it How is he gonna force it?
And what does it mean for the war?
I think I think as I said earlier
in the show that Pokrovsk is gone the
military pressure the Russian advances near Pokrovsk, Kramatorsk,
Seversk are You know are inevitable these those
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cities are Russian the end move-along smartly,
you know the the the Many analysts expect
Pokrovsk.
I say 90% of it's already gone
Solovyov opened his show talking about body exchange
This was and I may have said something
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about this a few days ago Ukraine received
a thousand bodies from Russia more than a
thousand the other day and Russia got back
30 bodies right Contrast this with Kiev claiming
or and remember they call Russians orcs right
from Tolkien and they've been saying for years.
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We're killing orcs by the thousands, right?
Yeah Really?
Where are they?
Where are they?
This is exactly the kind of reality check
that undermines Zelensky at home and abroad The
family see the corpses not the the telegram
You know videos of some idiot, you know
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saying we're killing people So the message from
Washington to the old Z monster is you're
losing ground and men if you refuse this
you're gonna lose more ground and more men
and Don't expect us to keep funding another
grand offensive That'll never get anywhere and never
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take place Anyway, because the money will be
snatched by your corrupt government and Or actors
in the corrupt government, right?
The financial and political choke is You know
this choke chain on of the on the
leash of the old Z man is u
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.s and EU money are conditional allegedly Trump
can throttle the aid and Congress is in
no mood for another blank check Although they
still been trying to hide it and get
some more in there so Everybody's talking about
fatigue corruption running out of men low morale
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Western Exhaustion that's what's going on The plan
offers Zelensky some some things though security guarantees.
He'll have those and he can Have elections
in a hundred days and claim that he
delivered peace he can take a victory lap
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if he wants Yeah Maybe and he gets
a butt-ton of reconstruction money although The
US gets a lot of the profit and
the reconstruction money is gonna be just as
corrupt as all the rest So you'll see
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some gains over there, but you'll see a
lot of oligarchs You know running off to
the u.s. With new piles of money,
too, because that's the way it is over
there But he has Zelensky does have a
gun to his head if he refuses this
in the war drags on He becomes the
man that said no to peace and lost
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more land after that You know So what
about the blame game?
What about information, you know?
Al Jazeera Predicts the plan is being rolled
out in a way that sets up a
blame trap Here it goes You leak it
to axios.
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You leak it to the Financial Times and
so You leak part of it to Al
Jazeera so Here and you leak it like
this.
Here's a comprehensive US plan Trump's plan That
even Russia likes all the courts It gives
Russia all the crap It said it wanted
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and then you signal even worse anonymous sources
and public comments that Zelensky must accept Difficult
concessions and that the u.s. Is doing
its part meaning forcing him to do something
So if this is the trap if Kiev
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and you in Europe say no Trump can
say at home, you know and and and
talking to other people who are looking to
get elected this year on the Republican side
He can say while campaigning for them that
we brought a serious plan and even the
Russians would sign it and Ukraine refused Ukraine
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is keeping the war going, right?
This is exactly what it is it's a
PR move designed to shift the narrative away
from Trump and into the Unreasonable Ukrainians and
EU which is where it belongs anyway So
I'm I mean, that's the plan.
That's the if you want to call it
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Russian disinformation But this time it's coming from
somewhere else.
Maybe we should talk about About Al Jazeera
disinformation or Anywhere else where else does it
come from axios disinformation, right?
Well, what about the legality of these personal
safety guarantees amnesty isn't just for Russians It'll
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protect a bunch of Ukrainian officials and commanders
and oligarchs who've made their fortunes on this
war They are rich and it'll offer a
clean exit for Zelensky and his circle no
investigations No Tribunals know who stole what they
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can then get to their post-war theft
and politics or Exile and they can join
something else.
So the other lever is sign this and
you're safe Refuse and when this does collapse,
you might not be so lucky you might
be targeted For being thrown in prison, right?
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hmm So what would this mean for the
war itself I mean seriously if this thing
or something like it is forced through what
do we get?
What did what does anybody get what does
the world?
Finally get Russia gets formal recognition of its
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Territorial gains and locks in the land corridor
to Crimea plus the full Donbass, which is
theirs anyway Ukraine is shrunk permanently non-aligned
a Demilitarized buffer call it Ukraine minus Moscow
gets sanctions relief Reintegration and they never have
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to admit defeat or wrongdoing.
I Don't think they've been defeated.
I mean, why would they have to admit
defeat?
They've won and the wrongdoing I Wonder if
you can really call it wrongdoing myself What
about Ukrainian wrongdoing?
What about Western wrongdoing?
What about European and u.s. Wrongdoing?
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Where's the chemical weapons discussion?
Where's the building up of Ukraine into the
attack dog for the West, where's all that?
Hmm the front line becomes the de facto
new border So the line of contact in
her son's upper Asia the Dnieper River, which
oh gee I think I may have said
that they're gonna get to the Dnieper River
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and they didn't get all the way to
the north part of the Dnieper, but they're
at the Dnieper River and They Have a
demilitarized strip You know in an area in
the Donbass any attempt by Ukraine to later
change this voids the u.s. Security guarantees
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That's it.
And but the conflict doesn't disappear it freezes,
right?
So you can expect probably low-level guerrilla
attacks sabotage terrorism on both sides intelligence war
between the two constant arguments over implementation elects
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elections language church statuses Minority rights, you know
that type of thing, but the large-scale
conventional phase of the war would be over
because Ukraine is physically unable to sustain it
if Trump can pull this off.
He's really Doing Ukraine a favor Right This
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victory is comes with a Western stamp with
a Trump stamp Moscow's early conditions can be
written up as Trump's peace vision even though
they're all Russia's peace vision and have been
for a long time and The u.s.
Gets money And they get to use that
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money and legal instruments to lock in peace
and money So I Don't know.
I find it pretty interesting.
They talked about in a lot of these
the Emotional angle, you know the Ukrainian families
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that are missing bodies, you know and don't
know what they are.
They finally get to know about it the
myth of the Western wonder weapons Is gone
people know that's a that's nonsense For attackums
all get shot down they mocked the Ukrainian
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general staff Statements and Western media hypes of
all the German leopard tanks the u.s
Bradley fighting vehicles the u.s. Abrams tanks
destroyed.
You don't hear anything about that anymore.
Do you?
You don't hear anything about it none of
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them exist They're they're gone And have been
for a year.
There's I I saw I saw something Three
four months ago, I think Is the last
I saw of a Bradley fighting vehicle.
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Where are they?
When's the last time you heard about an
f-16?
Over there crazy stuff Let's see, how did
he put it he put a Loud Laughs
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about Western Media around so-called The existence
of a plan of the US in Ukraine
Western media noise over a Supposed u.s.
Plan and They are skeptical that this is
really on paper yet with Axios has been
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the only ones to leak it He says
the all of them on that Soloviev live
said the West knows Ukraine is beaten.
They know it the Americans are looking for
an exit and Kiev is being lined up
to take the blame if they refuse well
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They are they have been to blame for
the last, you know Quite a few months,
you know, they haven't they haven't even seriously
considered any sort of peace option not remotely
They've denied since at least June If not
before that remember when Istanbul started up again
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And they you know, the Russians have been
saying we've been waiting for them to get
back with us with some new talking points
We all said where we were going to
go and that we'd meet again in a
couple of weeks never happened these narratives about
Pokrovskaya in the front line the Russia's grinding
forward all over the front lines and Ukraine
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is out of men running out of ammo
and Everybody's admitting this the Russians are winning
slowly on the ground and the u.s.
Is looking for diplomacy now To cover the
fact that they were beaten again You know
that the West has been beaten again, right?
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What did Zakharova say in her briefing today?
Her briefing covered a ton of ground though.
She she she covered Lavrov scheduled Belarus Ukrainian
drone attacks on Russian civilians in in Belgrade
and Kursk areas Strikes on Nova Nova Voronezh
(01:06:34):
a nuclear power plant again So they're there,
you know, the Ukrainians are still you know,
trying to force some kind of a big
blow up at some nuclear power plants all
of Volgograd to and Voronezh including the Nova
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Voronezh nuclear power plant that's bad stuff and
that kids are getting killed, you know, she
talks about that She said the Kievan neo
-nazis Continue to attack civilian Targets and terrorizing
peaceful population, it's how she put it and
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Her position or what she talked about as
far as the 28-point peace plan She
said that she was actually Covered in two
different places one on tasks and one in
her briefing, right and Moscow has seen numerous
media reports describing the various points of this
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plan, but no official proposal has been received
and that such issues have to go through
official channels not media and Russia's hands are
clean.
They get a look constructive and cautious, you
know and say, you know, we'll deal with
it Whatever shows up but in a later
part of her briefing, she said that the
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they want For sure.
They they must have the sovereign equality of
states respect for civilizational diversity and a varied
variety of of What do you call it
cultures Russian and Ukrainian and Western attempts to
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impose their own order versus sanctions and military
blockades have been wrong from the jump.
She says and She links u.s. Sanctions
plans even now against Russia's trading partners back
to Trump says destructive for global economic stability
So while the Western media is spinning Trump's
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28-point vision Zakharova tells everybody Russia hasn't
received a thing Kiev is still using Western
weapons to hit civilians and nuclear infrastructure.
So she is doubtful That is doubtful from
her point of view.
I would think so So, how do you
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think they're gonna sell this or force it
upon them?
How is it?
I I don't know But I don't I'm
not so positive that it's gonna be such
a hard sell because Ukraine's losing I mean
they're losing bad and They were talking Zelensky
was talking several days ago that he needs
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40,000 a month people new soldiers 40
,000 a month if they were winning why
would they need that many?
They wouldn't they were there because if they're
getting killed that you know That quickly that
they need 40,000 more It is not
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going well, it is just not going well
at all.
So I Don't know this is What would
the security look for we don't know how
that would look the security lines I think
that that it's probably not going to I'm
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interested to see the reactions on there.
Supposedly we were gonna get some Some new
opinions on it, but I haven't seen anything
new Although sometimes this late at night, you'll
get some new Articles that are put out
for the morning and but there's nothing there
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it's there's there's there's no new good stuff
That's that's come out I did want to
get into what is going on with the
Baltic Sea right now that is Kind of
distressing, you know, because this is all part
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of it in this confrontation zone because NATO
is is doing all kinds of This is
when the Maria Zakharova was talking about it,
too So that she says NATO has turned
the Baltic Sea into an area of more
and more military confrontation and She says the
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block is unwilling to discuss de-escalation It's
gonna have to be Trump that does it
I guess her remarks Come amid rising anti
-russian discussions in Estonia Latvia Lithuania Which are
you know, I reported from Lithuania back in
what was it September and they are very
(01:11:44):
I Don't know what angry You're an angry
little elf aren't you?
Well, they're all angry little elves in Lithuania.
I tell you what they were they're just
angry little people And Zakharova said the region
has long been a space of trade and
peaceful cooperation but It's being dismantled by NATO's
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military build-up this part of Europe She
says has been turned into a zone of
confrontation Which sharply escalated as a result of
Finland and Sweden?
Joining the block the NATO block It's what
she said yesterday so she pointed out that
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NATO's 2025 launch of what they called Baltic
sentry in an attempt to impose new navigation
rules and turn the the sea into the
blocks internal waters She says those are doomed
to fail and she insists that Russia will
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remain a full-fledged member of the Baltic
community So this Baltic sentry project They call
it Critical they say they're protecting critical undersea
infrastructure after recent incidents Remember when they were
saying that there were communication lines cables that
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were destroyed What about?
Nord Stream 2 getting destroyed right and so
There's been a big build-up in NATO
there It's very difficult to see any potential
for dialogue They're all saying aimed at reducing
tensions and NATO countries are not showing any
(01:13:34):
openness to honest discussion on ways to de
-escalate says Zakharova Estonia Latvia Lithuania adopt an
increasingly confrontational stance Officials like Andreas Koubilias who's
a former Lithuanian prime minister Continue to invoke
(01:13:55):
an alleged Russian threat to justify Much higher
military spending Koubilias warned this week of a
possible Conflict with Russia within two to four
years.
They all keep talking about it meaning.
This is what they want right?
Moscow has rejected claims of any hostile intent
of course denounces what it calls the West's
(01:14:17):
Reckless militarization and Zakharova stresses that Russia will
use all available legal means to safeguard its
own national security interests Same thing you heard
in Ukraine So even if we get rid
of Ukraine does it mean we got to
start all over again?
Who's gonna jump then and blame it on
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Russia?
I?
Mean this whole war has been blamed on
Russia, right?
crazy stuff Reuters has said that that Washington
is demanding that Kiev accept the u.s.
Drafted peace plan so They're they're not allegedly
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not giving Ukraine any choice they must accept
so That plan the 28 points that we
went over at length Reuters is quoting anonymous
sources saying that Washington wants Kiev to accept
the main points They just got to accept
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Axios Financial Times Who else everybody is now
saying it claimed that the document?
stipulates recognizing Russian as an official language in
Ukraine Crazy stuff there.
I can't imagine they're going to do it
I Might just I can't believe I I
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I think this is gonna be a big
no-go the EU Has already rejected it
the genius Kasia Kala Kasia Kala's She's on
the front page of an article right European
Union is pushing back Against the latest US
proposed plan saying the settlement must reflect positions
(01:16:15):
of Brussels Yeah, why?
What does Brussels have to do with it?
nothing, so In my opinion who gives a
crap that the the fact is you can
bring Ukraine into the EU all you want
But do you want NATO?
Good luck u.s. Won't let him in
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I think the old trumpster may have said
that now in this 28-point plan The
Western media is claiming was developed in coordination
with Moscow, but not the EU so We've
already told about it President Trump Is supposed
to well according to Zelensky anyway?
(01:16:57):
He says he hopes to Speak with US
President Donald Trump in the coming days is
what he says We shall have to see
Kasia Kala says that any peace arrangement has
to reflect the positions of Both the the
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block the EU and Ukraine and says that
the u.s. Proposal offered No concessions from
the Russian side Well, I didn't see a
whole lot there on the Russian side either
except the freakin money You guys have been
trying to steal from them for years The
300 billion that are in Brussels in a
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bank and Trump's trying to take it all
to Trump's after the money So French Foreign
Minister Jean-Noël Barat Barreau I don't know
if you pronounce the T or not was
quoted by Reuters as saying that any agreement
must not amount to capitulation What else you
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got if You guys aren't willing to go
in there and fight which you're not and
Russia would bomb the snot out of you
if you did Then what is left?
Ukraine doesn't have any ability to win this
war that isn't gonna change it hasn't changed
in four years And it's not gonna change
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now unless what are you gonna?
Do go nuclear?
You want to go nuclear on this you
morons?
bad plan for all of us if you
do idiots and There are other ministers that
have said they haven't seen the document and
would need clarification Well, geez, the only way
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you can get it is to read axios
Who gets it?
How does it get around there a great
government working, huh?
Moscow has always said that the EU is
obstructing US and Russian diplomatic efforts to get
rid of the conflict Instead they're working to
prolong the hostilities and they're still doing the
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same thing This is the next open-ended
pledge of support financially Politically you know and
corruption also, you know, you support their corruption
if you don't take care of this problem
and So Russia, I mean Russia's calling it
like it is, right?
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and According to Germany's Kiel Institute the EU
has committed 75 billion in Aid to Ukraine
since 2022 We've done a hell of a
lot more than that, you know under the
Biden Biden block, right?
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Kremlin's is remains open to peace But says
Kiev is only seeking to keep the fighting
going on.
That's true Lavrov had a Had a an
interesting Appearance today and He said well, it
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wasn't today is actually a couple of days
ago But he said that EU nations are
trying to elbow their way into the Ukrainian
peace process Despite their openly hostile stance toward
Russia That's what he said Speaking at an
embassy roundtable on Wednesday Lavrov said that the
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EU countries are clearly trying quite brazenly to
reclaim a place at the negotiating table But
the minister said they have no business there
the block he said maintains a position of
revanchism of inflicting strategic defeat upon Russia While
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debating potential troop deployment to Ukraine in case
of a ceasefire Of course, there is no
place for it or them at the negotiating
table Moscow is consistently opposed deployment of Western
troops Yep, he said that well everybody has
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said for a long time that if there
were Western or NATO troops They're all legitimate
military targets to get there Lavrov noted that
both the EU and Kiev are seeking to
convince Trumpster to abandon his push to settle
the conflict and relapse into a Standoff with
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Russia he said Everybody else wants essentially to
turn Biden's war into Trump's war, right?
That's what Lavrov said.
No, I've said it already is Trump's war
So, you know, but he pointed out that
Trump has been seeking to mediate an end
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to the conflict And he spearheaded, you know
Decent amount of discussions.
I mean, what's he done?
He's done more than anybody else It just
hasn't been successful and I've always said he's
just gonna have to force this or Cut
off Ukraine and I think maybe he's listening
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Maybe he is listening to the people like
me that have been right from the get
-go Did you guys hear that Stephen King's
book it was pulled from shelves in Russia
Now, I'm not sure I care about this
when I've read it.
I watched it on television.
I didn't like the new one It's it's
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too horrifying for me.
But the old one was not too bad.
Was it a TV miniseries or something?
But Stephen King has been very very anti
-russia.
I don't think the guy knows what he's
talking about as far as this he should
stick to he I listened to a few
of his rants in the beginning of all
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of this back not to begin the beginning
of the horror story was He was talking
about Ukraine being so positive and nothing and
nothing but negative about Russia.
He's nuts.
He doesn't know what he's talking about but
he says His well, his books were pulled
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and the story goes it has been pulled
from sales in Russian bookstores and online marketplaces
according to Russian media reports on Thursday, this
just happened and I don't get it because
I've read this book, but it was a
while ago and it says One of his
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most popular works that was published in 1986
it contains a controversial set of content including
a scene widely described as an orgy Involved
involving minors and characters with non-traditional sexual
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orientations I don't remember this at all in
it and I'd have to go back and
and find it I suppose but Russia has
banned content that promotes same-sex relations in
2022 Although there's no official blacklist of Prohibited
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literature that's not the state's business over there,
but a major retailer removed more than 250
books in 2024 including some of Stephen King's
so the Russia's leading publisher AST told the
business daily Vidim and videomisty that it had
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temporarily withdrawn King's book it in order to
update product marking issues Which is a reference
to age restriction and content warning labels required
under Russian law so AST has long sold
it with a 16 plus age label but
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It says that there was something containing an
LGBT related theme so that it had to
be an 18 plus instead of a 16
plus book, right and Bookstores in Russia are
freaking fantastic.
You know, I've gone into a bunch of
them books are cheap and they're they're everywhere
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and peep I mean it's like It used
to be here.
I mean the bookstores are I love it
over there.
We're going to all these bookstores there are
tons of them, but I And and you
see these labels on them that say 16
plus 18 plus, you know, whatever But they
have a store called wild berries.
I've told you about that before and it
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says that it complies with Legislation does not
allow the sale of products prohibited in Russia
But I don't think that it has anything
like that in there maybe somebody could remind
me if that was the case, but I
really don't think so and I'd have to
Check it out.
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But here here here about this King has
he ceased working with his Russian publishers in
March of 2022 after well, remember the UK
the the escalation of The Ukraine conflict started,
you know when they went up that started
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in February 2022 and He has actively supported
Kiev in the ongoing conflict and and accuses
Russian forces he has done it many times
of killing civilians, but he doesn't ever say
anything about the other way around I'm not
saying that there aren't errors on both sides,
but I Think there's some intentional ones on
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the Ukrainian side and I haven't seen very
many of those if any at all on
the Russian side So I'd challenge that guy
to get his story straight and do a
little bit of research or quit talking about
it Because there's plenty of those stories on
the other side tons of them and It
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seems to me that the more Famous you
are the more you like to take these
stories and twist them Something else just came
out Not too long ago That talks about
in the last couple of minutes Ukrainian MPs
are publishing the terms of the new peace
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deal to they say they got a draft
from the US and are ready to discuss
it and so Ukrainian opposition leader Alexei gone
Sharenko.
He published the text of the plan Presented
to Kiev by the US administration And he
posted it on the social media which are
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screenshots of the Ukrainian language electronic document that
detailed the 28-point plan so in the
full text he said he put all He
put every bit of it out there all
28 points in in Ukrainian and So he
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I mean he it's listed his post is
out here I had to translate it, but
it's definitely out here, so it was posted
late last well for them It's it's now
early morning, but Before the evening last night.
He put it out as well, so It
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came out it came out about Probably 6
7 p.m. Ukraine time so There you
have it.
We shall see what will happen on this
and it'd be nice to get some Some
peace in the world wouldn't it regardless.
I mean Jesus de-escalation or De-escalation
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needs to occur and I'd be happy to
see it This is my last show of
the week, and I'll be traveling for the
holidays so there may be a little bit
of problems on my ability to Although I'm
gonna try a Sunday night my show I
know I'm traveling on that day, and I'm
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gonna if I have any troubles I'll keep
you posted, but I think we'll have a
show all ready to go in the meantime
I hope you do Listen to my show
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We interrupt this incredibly awesome music to bring
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Welcome I'm Samuel trap.
This is international flavor.
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Holiday That I think I'm gonna be going
straight into the morning hour 730 to 9
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seen?
And it'll be very exciting.
So all the news today at least this
evening has been all About the 28-point
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plan.
So last night I talked a little bit
about What it was, but nobody knew what
it was Nobody knew well now people know
it's been leaked.
Of course, which nothing could ever be just
put out by the proper I don't know
what A Proper source maybe would be the
old president would be somebody Somewhere in the
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government, but it's always leaked and this was
leaked somehow Axios got it and then there
were but but everybody was talking about it
Anyway, like they had seen it they had
read it, but they didn't have it and
he couldn't talk about last night there were
some people I went through a good number
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of Shows today and Was seeing what various
people were saying both in Russia All over
the world.
I read an Al Jazeera piece.
It was pretty cool.
That was talking about whether or not we
were Going to see the end of a
war anytime soon and I did like the
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way they framed some of the questions because
for me it's I I think it's important
in fact here I am sitting in the
real estate of the art studio and they're
showing, you know on JR's TV stuff gonna
be Distracting me.
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I think I'm gonna shut them off drive
me crazy but there are various different people
saying different things about the peace plan and
I've been talking about The corruption scandal in
Ukraine for a while that dudes on his
last legs and I thought I would start
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with the golden toilet, right So, I don't
know if you guys have paid attention to
this, but the golden toilets of Ukraine are
are all over Telegram, I don't know that
I've shared them before but there's an article
by a guy named Andre Rudenko and The
story is called behind the Ukrainian golden toilet
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because they were showing pictures of the places
where this Mindik and some other people were
sitting and so his article is kind of
a play on that nonsensical nonsense, and it's
good stuff because Putin today Something also pretty
funny So I'm gonna share two short stories
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with you before we get our articles before
we get into the 28-point peace plan,
which apparently like I surmised the last couple
of days is gonna be forced upon the
old Z monster because he maybe Maybe the
old trumpster did plan all of this.
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Maybe so if so Maybe he'll get some
do from me, especially if he sticks with
his 28-point plan and But let's get
first to the story behind the Ukrainian golden
toilet there's only one way to fix the
disease of the Ukrainian state written by a
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guy named Andre Rudenko and It's it's it's
really not very long.
I may skip around a little bit, but
these are pretty funny the West's Slow turn
away from Vladimir Zelensky is no longer a
speculation It's happening in plain sight like a
steamroller moving slowly but with absolute certainty The
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Financial Times hardly a Kremlin mouthpiece has published
a piece titled bags of cash and a
gold toilet the corruption crisis engulfing Zelensky's government
Its reporters now openly state that Ukrainian elites
expect even more explosive revelations from the Naboo
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investigations and Once outlets like the Financial Times
Put something like this to print it usually
means the groundwork has been laid behind the
scenes That Western Europe and the United States
are still approving new aid says little about
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confidence in Kiev It says far more about
bureaucratic inertia and the reluctance of those who
profit from war To let the tap suddenly
close Even so you can now hear cautious
whispers in Brussels asking whether it makes sense
To send billions to a government whose officials
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are determined to steal the money before it
arrives These are not new Revelations the only
surprise is that anyone pretends to be surprised
The truth is simple the West knew exactly
who it was dealing with Nobody in Washington
or Brussels was under the illusion that Ukraine
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was Switzerland They knowingly entered into a political
partnership with what is and has long been
one of the most corrupt and internally unstable
political systems in Europe To pretend otherwise is
theater for more than 30 years Ukrainian statehood
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is rested on the same shaky foundation competing
clans oligarchy rule privatized security services and a
political class willing to plunder their own population
Gina sounds like ours changing presidents never altered
the underlying structure Sounds like ours too because
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each leader owed his position to the same
network of cash patronage and force Doesn't that
sound like us?
Take Leonid Kravchuk under him Ukraine began to
slow banditization and Bandera of ski are the
the Nazis While state assets were siphoned away
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and local power brokers entrenched themselves Leonid Kuchma
then perfected this system under his presidency Ukraine
saw dubious arms deals the murder of journalists
and opposition figures and audiotapes revealing orders to
eliminate critics economic sectors with predictable profits were
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carved up among regional clans who ruled their
fiefdoms in exchange for loyalty and a steady
stream of kickbacks to Kiev Victor you Yushenko's
years brought more of the same corruption schemes
around energy political assassination and the continued exploitation
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of ordinary Ukrainians Victor Yanukovych and Petro Poroshenko
added their own layer to this architecture of
rot Zelensky inherited it and then accelerated it
Surrounding himself with loyalist whose main Qualification was
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their willingness to feed at the trough and
look the other way All of these leaders
shared one priority resisting federalization at any cost
a Federal Ukraine would devolve power and financial
control to the regions and that is a
nightmare scenario For Kiev elites, it would loosen
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their grip on revenue streams limit their political
leverage and allow Regional identities to express themselves
without the fear of punishment from the center
So instead of reform they offered forced Ukrainization
attacks on the Russian language and nationalist show
slogans about one people one language One state
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it was a political survival strategy not a
nation building project That is why Changing presidents
won't fix anything Remove Zelensky and you get
another figure from the same system perhaps illusiony
perhaps a recycled face from a previous era
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the Choreography will be identical only the masks
will change The deeper problem is the structure
of Ukrainian statehood itself as long as Ukraine
Remains in its current unitary form.
It will continue producing conflict corruption and internal
Instability war is not an aberration of such
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a system It is an outcome if the
elites refuse to reform and the population has
no means to compel them to do So
then the discussion must move beyond personalities the
uncomfortable truth is that the only lasting solution
May be to abandon the current model of
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Ukrainian statehood altogether Because no cosmetic change will
save a system designed from birth to decay
You got to admit that's a pretty harsh
Article By mr.
Andrei Rudenko and you know unfortunately quite a
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bit is true, so Putin has one other
small part that I want him that he
talked about there's a lot of talk about
people abandoning Ukraine nowadays Nordic nations say the
Sweden says this that the Ukraine burden is
unsustainable Poland is stirring war hysteria Ukrainian murder
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plots using chemical weapons are foiled Let's see
Quite a few but let's quickly share with
you this story about Ukraine being led by
a criminal gang on golden potties according to
Putin Ukrainian leaders do not care about the
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fate of their own country the Russian president
says Ukrainian leaders have devolved into a criminal
gang while sitting on their golden potties Russian
president Putin has said the president made these
remarks on Thursday while visiting a command post
for troops fighting in the Ukraine Conflict in
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his address to the commanding officers Putin touched
upon a massive graft crisis that has been
unfolding in Ukraine This is not a political
leadership of Ukraine.
It is a criminal gang that holds power
for personal enrichment It's clear to everyone that
these people sitting on their golden potties are
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Hardly thinking about the fate of common people
in Ukraine or the fate of ordinary soldiers
Putin stated referring to Timur Mindy the ally
of Vladimir Zelensky the one they call the
wallet Who fled the country hours before he
was due to be arrested for extortion?
Who had a gilded a gilded toilet in
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his elite Kiev apartment?
The massive graft scandal enfolded in Ukraine last
week I'm not going to cover the rest
of that.
I've covered that for several days Dmitry Peskov
said the Kiev regime is obviously going off
the rails said Dmitry Peskov on Tuesday, that's
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hardly a Ukrainian internal matter anymore That's foreign
money being stolen So it's a there's the
tide is definitely turning friends and neighbors, so
when I first started reviewing the 28 point
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plan I Couldn't get to I couldn't find
the full 28 paragraphs I Have them now,
you know, I have the complete list Which
we'll go over with you in a little
bit but I wanted to talk a little
bit more about Bob Polk Pokrovsk Mirna grad
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the places that we've been talking about that
are in Zaparizhia or in her son or
What do you call it the Donetsk Lugansk
in the Donbass area because it is important
and I was saying, you know, I was
basically quizzing All Of the videos that I
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watched and Wondering what about the fall of
Pokrovsk and is Pokrovsk gone already or not?
There's now been Western Journalists and others go
in and there's plenty of videos of Russians
and southern Russian soldiers all over southern Pokrovsk
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So for the Zelensky regime to do what
it's been doing and say, oh no, that's
crazy where we have them But on the
ground inside of Pokrovsk Russian sources including the
Ministry of Defense are talking about Pokrovsk and
Krasnoarmeysk as encircled and under Russian control and
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say That Ukrainian forces are bottled up around
Mirna grad the and those two cities are
I suppose you'd call them sister cities.
They're not all that far apart from each
other The Russian Ministry of Defense video geo
located by Reuters shows Russian soldiers Patrolling freely
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through the southern parts of the city and
no visible Ukrainian presence Ukraine calls this a
gray zone, but that's usually the word you
use when you're already in trouble according to
Reuters Western military trackers ISW Institute study war
have been noting for weeks that Russia has
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the initiative in Pokrovsk while Ukraine has severe
manpower Munition problems.
We've been following that here.
Yeah In strict military terms Russia has the
momentum the artillery the numbers Zelensky himself admits
Ukrainian troops are badly outnumbered Ukrainian reserves are
thin they have other fronts to hold in
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Kharkiv Zaporizhzhia, etc So unless Kiev does one
of two things pulls out in time and
trades land for saving troops or Somehow finds
fresh forces and more ammo that nobody has
available Then the loss of Pokrovsk is just
a matter of time It's not an if
from the Russian side of the equation The
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battle is already being described in the past
tense and From most of the mappers, that's
true.
Even the Ukrainian mappers are showing 90%
of Pokrovsk under Russian control So from a
political standpoint, nobody in Kiev is gonna say
Pokrovsk is gone until long after the map
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makes it obvious But on an operational level
the city is doomed Unless there's some kind
of a miracle or political deal and it
appears that the political big deal is gonna
Kick their rear ends if after I should
tell you about that little tidbit So what
we see is the US reporting in live
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updates are describing Trump as frustrated with both
sides That's been going on for a while,
but he's talking about Lasting peace he's more
frustrated with with the Z monster than he
is with Putin and he says that He's
pushing for a lasting peace and pushing his
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28-point plan, which we're gonna get to
like I said Russia and for their point
their officials are openly saying that the conflict
is now Trump's not Biden's and they've been
saying that for a while I've been saying
that for a while and that Moscow is
ready to negotiate if Washington is serious and
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Moscow hasn't slammed the the 28-point draft
you know their their line is more like
we haven't confirmed it, but we are open
to dialogue on it, so Code and diplomacy
that means we can work with this with
some edits, you know, they're still Not quite
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there and I don't after reviewing it.
I don't think they're going to be but
it'll be close Trump keeps swinging between let
Ukraine win everything back One day and the
next he's freeze the lines and give Russia
the Donbass Putin wants something Closer to his
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original war aims.
He wants recognition of Crimea.
He wants to full Donbass He wants a
neutral Ukraine.
He wants limits on Ukrainian military.
No NATO the new plan covers most of
these things So Trump's real impatience appears to
be with Zelensky in Europe For not taking
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the deal immediately and with the fact that
he hasn't turned it into a quick win.
He can brag about So Putin is being
more hard-nosed business negotiator pressure over tomahawks
sanctions, etc pressure over energy Escalation bricks on
the other if you're looking for a headline
Trump isn't breaking with Putin He's trying to
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arm twist Kiev and Brussels into swallowing a
settlement that locks in Russian gains But does
let him claim that he ended the war
so that's a part of it There's a
bunch of stuff about tomahawks and given more
Everybody's been talking about the other option would
be to give Kiev all of this Long
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-range equipment to continue bombing inside of Russia,
but that's an escalation that is a very
bad plan And before we get to this
28-point plan, and I only say this
because Trump is like I don't know a
weather vane, you know Whichever way the wind
blows today is the way he's pointing and
so at least on the Ukraine conflict in
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So we we shall see Let's talk about
all of the times that in this and
most of this came from the because I'll
just hear I put together a Pretty cool
article.
It's like we don't know which way he's
going either and who knows if this new
one will stick It was an interesting article.
I'm not gonna share the whole thing with
you.
It's too long, but the They talk about
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his during his campaign and his early presidency
on the trail he claimed he'd end the
war in 24 hours Later, he admitted that
this was You know according to Wikipedia anyway
creative marketing And in February of 2025 he
had an Oval Office meeting with Zelensky remember
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that and that that debacle Public and leaked
accounts described Trump scolding Zelensky for not being
grateful we saw that and telling him is
in no position to dictate terms and Implied
that Ukraine needed to give up land that
was in February in August Both sides have
to cede some territory put Trump floated land
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swaps Ukraine gives up territory Russia gives back
some smaller pieces everyone signs a ceasefire you
know that's from Reuters and then Zelensky and
European leaders immediately reject this idea Ukraine's Constitution
according to the Z monster doesn't allow trading
territory away.
That was from the Washington Post September the
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23rd Ukraine can win it all back.
Do you remember that nonsense?
Oh Ukraine can win it all back This
is a new phase after meeting Zelensky at
the UN Trump suddenly says Ukraine can reclaim
all territory lost since 2022 with EU and
NATO backing and posts about returning to the
Original borders of where this war started that
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was Reuters as well That was a brief
moment when his rhetoric lined up with more
Kiev, you know more with Kiev in Brussels
very very small in October he then pivoted
again suggested freezing the war at the current
front lines and leaving negotiations Over status of
occupied regions for later Russia rejected this it
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wants to full Donbass and some more Okay,
and then in November this leaked 28-point
plan and we're to the end and remember
what comes tomorrow tomorrow is the 90-day
end of when these sanctions are supposed to
take place in India China bunch of the
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places that they were given a 90-day
reprieve, right?
Remember all of this that these are going
to be some serious sanctions that are supposed
to take place tomorrow If I do remember
the date right this is cool cool let's
see, but according to axios AP plus the
Al Jazeera of article that I read all
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and there were plenty more that I Listen
to online and whatnot Russia is getting what
what they will get.
Okay This is this is the leaked part
of the 28-point plan I have the
full text of it below what they get
and I'll go through all 28 but Russia
gets formal control of Crimea and all of
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the Donbass, okay, Including some of the areas
it doesn't yet physically hold they have all
of Lugansk and almost all of Donetsk But
they will have the plan calls for Ukraine
to give it all up, right?
Then Ukraine pulls its forces out of the
Donbass entirely and the region becomes a demilitarized
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zone Current front lines in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson
are frozen pending future talks Ukrainian army is
capped at 400,000 troops according to Al
Jazeera It's 400 to 600 according to the
28-point plan in a couple other places,
right?
And they're stripped of any long-range strike
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capability NATO Enlargement is further constrained.
There are strong hints of a block on
Ukrainian membership.
I think it's in there actually in return
the US security guarantee for what's left of
Ukraine and Europe some kind of non-aggression
arrangement and access to portions of the Russian
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frozen assets This is interesting So we'll get
to that in just a second because the
way the finances come out Trump's the god
-emperor of the planet, right?
This is good stuff Because I always thought
I was the god-emperor of the planet,
but apparently not if you are into Frank
Herbert, you will know that God Emperor is
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a title from his science fiction writings anyway
Russian news on this blunt, you know Take
from all of this is the plan meets
many of Russia's core security demands and it
would force Ukraine to give up large parts
of its sovereignty and Territory while the EU
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complains it has been kept in the dark,
right?
So if we strip away the noise from
this, what do we get?
We get a vague promise of quick peace
and no details we get him Experiments with
different formulas land swaps total Ukraine so if
this is really Trump the deal-maker and
Trump posturing this entire time going back and
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forth and quietly working with the Russians I
Wonder III truly wonder because if it ends
up this way then that sounds pretty likely
that he was doing something along here, but
I Don't know maybe somebody who is a
Trumpster so not that I'm not a supporter
but a Trumpster Backer far more than me
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to a hundred to a hundred and ten
percent when I'm only a 70 to 80
percent Maybe they would know but now we
got a fairly concrete scheme that lurks pretty
close to what Russia said early on in
the war What what?
This is the Don or the Istanbul plus
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concept that was rejected by Bojo Boris Johnson
way back when and the Biden administration Nonsense,
and so what have we done except kill
off a million?
Ukrainians and a good number of Russians I
don't believe it's anywhere near as high but
you know, I may be wrong in that
respect, but I doubt it Um, so this
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is an American guarantee and so the story
from the Russian point of view is that
Washington spent three years denying Moscow's red lines
and now it's trying to sell those exact
same red lines back to Ukraine and Europe
as Trump's peace plan This is the Trump
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peace plan given the EU will almost certainly
reject the initial draft Which is why even
Western analysis are calling it more of a
starting gun For a diplomatic blame game than
a Finnish settlement if they say no Trump
gets to say I offered peace and they
chose more war So there were some good
stories on that Reuters said That you know
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shows the Russian soldiers walking freely through but
Krovsk Al Jazeera says Ukraine facing exhausting battles
in the Zaporizhzhia and Donetsk And then Russia
hitting Ukraine with overnight attacks happens every single
night so I went and I I listened
to One of my favorites over there the
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Solovyov.
I listened to a two and a half
hour Um Maria's a hot about the her
she gave her Ministry of Foreign Affairs briefing
and I listened to that most of it
and then We were there's some stuff about
Kellogg and his his retiring at the end
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of the year Like I was telling you
last night.
We're talking about Istanbul Plus.
There's a guy named Marcus Alex that I
like to listen to And I have the
full text of Trump's 28 points that came
out on Axios earlier and Al Jazeera that
I read to you about and then so
I'm gonna start with the plan itself and
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then about how it's being used to squeeze
the Z monster then go with the strict
Russian side of it and Then talk about
some more middle-of-the-road errs If
you strip down what the 28-point plan
actually says Let's see.
You know what?
I think I'll take you through all 28
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I wasn't going to but I think I
will Let's see here According to Axios here
it is Short Short version.
Okay, because they had a little bit more
in there But we are to confirm that
Ukraine stays sovereign as a state, okay, that's
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number one there will be a non-aggression
pact between Russia Ukraine and Europe that closes
out all past disputes Russia pledges no invasions
NATO halts further expansion Gee, there's a surprise.
Maybe we put that into a treaty number
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four u.s Mediated NATO Russia security dialogue
to manage tension and de-escalation Very nice
US led security guarantees for Ukraine cap Ukraine's
armed forces at 600,000 there's something in
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the calculations in there, but it's a Administrative
versus fighting forces stuff like that.
So it's basically 400 ground troops or whatever
Ukraine is locked out of NATO in its
own Constitution and NATO formally rules out Ukraine's
membership.
That's number seven number eight no NATO troops
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in Ukraine There's that'd be a good one.
That's what started all this crap.
Anyway, number nine base European fighter jets in
Poland instead Poland's already a bunch of nuts.
Let's let them be there number ten details
of the u.s. Guarantee u.s. Gets
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money Get a lot of money.
The guarantee is void if Ukraine attacks Russia
or hits Moscow st Petersburg and quote without
cause and if Russia attacks again Sanctions and
recognition benefits snap back.
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So there's going to be recognition of the
territories and we'll get to that in a
second number 11 Open the EU door for
Ukraine plus temporary preferential access to EU markets
Number 12.
This one is where Trump is hoping to
shine, right?
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big reconstruction package for Ukraine New development fund
joint work on gas infrastructure rebuilding of cities
and infrastructure and resource extraction number 13 Reintegrate
Russia into the global economy Staged sanctions relief
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long term u.s. Russia economic deals and
invite Russia back into the g8 Look if
if Trump is behind this he is trying
to slam the door on bricks and bring
Russia back into Swift that Makes sense too
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and get number 14.
You're gonna love this it Trump in the
dealmaker use frozen Russian assets 100 billion goes
to a u.s. Led Ukraine rebuild fund
The u.s. Gets 50 percent of the
profits.
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Do you remember that?
we get that anyway, because Ukraine signed the
minerals deal member that and Or that's part
of it.
And then Europe has to add another 100
billion to the pot and The remaining frozen
assets go into a joint u.s. Russia
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investment fund So the u.s. Gets three
chunks Hundred billion hundred billion and then whatever
the rest is there was three hundred billion
in the original fund, right?
and who knows how much is left these
days, but all the interest on it has
gone to loans to Ukraine to be guarantee
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them he wants to Create a joint u
.s. Russia security working group to oversee compliance
I want in on that, you know, that
would be fun number 16 Russia writes a
non-aggression Toward Europe and Ukraine into its
law.
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I don't think that'll be a problem at
all number 17 extend an update u.s
Russia Nuclear arms control treaties.
That's a big deal.
That's the new start treaty Number 18 Ukraine
Recommits to being a non-nuclear state under
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the nuclear proliferation treaties Number 19 and I've
talked about this quite a few times Zaporizhia
nuclear power plant restarts under IAEA International Atomic
Energy Agency Electricity is split 50-50 between
Russia and Ukraine.
So you've heard some of these before over
the last five six months, right and Now
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we're seeing them all put together number 20
Tolerance and rights package both adopt education programs
on tolerance Ukraine applies EU rules on religious
and linguistic rights that they don't have right
now Both protect Russian Ukrainian media and education
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they ban well Ukraine anyway bans this Nazi
ideology in related activity 21 the territories here's
the land Crimea Lugansk Donetsk recognized as Russian
including by the United States Herson and Zaporizhia
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the borders freeze along the current front lines
Russia quits some other occupied pockets in sue
me and Person places like that or Harkiv.
I mean in Harkiv places like that and
Ukraine withdraws from the West or from the
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rest of Donetsk that it still holds which
become a neutral Demilitarized buffer recognized as Russian
territory, but no Russian troops inside that strip
both sides 22 promise not to change these
borders by force security guarantees vanish if they
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do number 23 guarantee Ukraine's use of the
Dnipro River and Black Sea grain export routes
Because they're about to lose Possibly access to
the Black Sea which kill them financially in
a lot of ways Number 24 this one's
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fun There no, where is it?
Because well, we'll get into some more details
after I go through these last five humanitarian
Commission all for all prisoner of war and
body swaps Return of any civilian detainees or
children family reunification and victim support measures 25
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this is a big one Ukraine to hold
elections within 100 days Want to talk about
corruption there?
number 26 full wartime Amnesty for everyone no
future claims or complaints allowed meaning Russia and
all the people that it is charging Under
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criminal law like I've told you about repeatedly
They don't get you know, that doesn't happen
anymore 27 Make the deal legally binding enforced
by a Peace Council get this here comes
here.
It comes chaired by Donald Trump himself with
sanctions for violators and number 28 Ceasefire begins
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immediately once everyone signs and troops pull back
to the initial agreed-upon positions that is
all 28 friends and neighbors and that's a
a hell of a start don't you think
That's a big Fargan deal if the old
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Trumpster Can pull it off so Stripped down,
you know this security architecture in NATO Ukrainian
sovereignty is affirmed, but Ukraine has to constitutionally
Renounce NATO NATO has to formally record that
Ukraine will never be admitted NATO cannot station
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troops in Ukraine airfields nothing US mediated Russia
NATO dialogue is created to end Ambiguity and
to de-escalate and that'll be chaired by
the old Trumpster I kind of like that
idea in other words Ukraine is permanently non
-aligned and off of the NATO Expansion menu,
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which is what?
Moscow is wanted from day one Ukraine's military
and status that's another chunk of them, right?
Ukrainian Armed Forces capped Axio says 600,000
as a hard ceiling, but a lot of
the other ones are saying, you know, they
have to have the Current force which is
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about 800 K So the numbers don't quite
line up But the direction is a huge
cut and Ukraine has to give up certain
classes of long-range weapons There's going to
be no attack comes no tomahawk style No
storm shadows.
No nothing like that.
Ukraine has to stay Non-proliferation, they can't
have any nuclear related stuff and So from
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a practical point of view, it's an army
large enough for internal security But not large
enough to threaten any deep strikes on Russia
the territories we've laid out before and Crimea
Donetsk Luzon Lugansk recognized as Russian even in
the u.s. And then the other ones
Are just hypothetical future talks you can talk
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about them and Ukraine has to withdraw from
You know, don't ask we've already talked about
that So here is This is where it's
it's interesting.
So you won't talk about the Biden family
making a buttload of cash in in Ukraine,
let's switch to the Trump Kushner angle, right
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and who gets a cut now a Hundred
billion in frozen assets of Russian assets get
to be used in a u.s. Led
Reconstruction fund u.s. Gets 50% of
the profits from that Europe is supposed to
add another hundred billion and the rest of
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the Russian at funds Go into the u
.s. Joint investment and and what are they
going to do with this?
Allegedly AI Arctic minerals energy building Infrastructure stuff
like that and Russia gets to come back
home, right?
lift to sanctions long-term economic cooperation with
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the u.s. and energy resources and tech
and invited back to the g8 and Ukraine
gets to join the EU, right?
so From a Russian point of view Washington
tries to turn Russian assets into a Wall
Street profit machine and bolt Russia back into
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the globalist System in exchange for giving them
territory and ending the war and lifting sanctions
They get it come back in.
I Wonder how China in India will feel
about that Frankly Europe and in Ukraine aren't
gonna go for this anyway And so Trump
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can just wash his hands from it and
go well, I've You know, I've done my
best, you know, here it is No No,
what do you call it Pulitzer for you?
Is it Pulitzer what is it Nobel I'm
sorry, no peace prize for you, but there
you go And then there's a bunch of
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fluff body exchanges elections full amnesty Blah blah
blah Peace Council with Donald Trump guaranteeing enforcement
So from the Washington Slash Trump camp Axios
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Wall Street Journal All say this is Trump's
serious fully flushed out plan drafted by Whitkoff
with input from Rubio and Kushner in consultation
with Kirill Dmitriev Russian Remember when he came
over a little bit ago month ago less
than that u.s. Officials say it's not
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easy for Ukraine But they insist that if
Kiev refuses It will lose even more land
And that's true, you know, they'll they'll be
lucky to have any Black Sea access if
they don't and because Russia's moving Well Zelensky
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is being caught let's call it nudged Toward
reality.
He's got to get toward reality and publicly
they get his say we're ending the war
There's going to be durable peace security Guarantees
the usual sugarcoating on what is basically a
dictated settlement to the old Z monster so
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the Basically everyone that I've seen on the
West is echoing exactly this point and it
then the the unfortunate point for this is
that What this proposal is is the same
thing that some that Moscow?
Demanded a long time ago and What Zelensky
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has already called?
Capitulation and but Washington is now reselling it
as Trump piece But it also says that
Zelensky's corruption scandal in this battlefield You know
Losses that are going on now aren't helping
him any so in Moscow on the other
hand Peskov is Being cool says Kremlin hasn't
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seen any new terms of any new plan
Nothing beyond our earlier talks Putin's June 24
terms still stand NATO Renunciation withdrawal from the
four regions blah blah blah same old stuff
Zakharova today and in the in in tasks
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and Al Jazeera They say that the Ministry
of Foreign Affairs is aware of media speculation
But has not received any official u.s.
Proposal and that such things must go through
official channels and not leaks Unofficially Russian TV
and Russian, you know What do you call
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it?
for contact you and Rutube all of them
you can I watched one called In In
Russian, of course, but the pool the peace
plan from 28 points.
This is a great roasting the the step
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the the path to the White House they
frame it as get this a Desperate PR
move by Trump after he has taken a
few domestic political hits Epstein hearings congressional moves
that have been against him it's an attempt
to turn Ukraine into a bargaining chip to
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save Trump politically and This guy's pretty pro
-ukrainian by the way and a plan that
is actually very favorable to Russia on the
ground But they're trying to sell it as
balanced.
Okay, this guy's a The one I'm telling
you about is a very Ukrainian point of
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view Russian commentators say The plan codifies Russian
gains forces Ukraine to disarm and gives Russia
a path back to the g8 financial system
without conceding anything fundamental and Solovyov the guy
who watched that has done the very political
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commentators He says that this is proof that
the West is exhausted and that Ukraine has
already been defeated Militarily and the eight the
28 points are are clumsy and a late
recognition of something that they already offered and
had on the table and partially agreed to
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in Istanbul in 2022 until Bojo destroyed it
if this had happened it would have you
know, this is similar to what they agreed
upon way back then and And there's a
written part of it that goes with it,
so what does kiv say about all this
Kiev of course says Ukrainian officials are calling
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this absurd.
It's a non-starter.
We're not going to capitulate especially the parts
about giving up the remaining parts of the
Donbass and freezing the lines in her son
is a Parisia cutting its army and giving
a Russian language and the Moscow The Russian
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Orthodox Church official status again it that is
nonsense that these people that they're saying we
will not give Russian language in the Moscow
Church the the Orthodox Church Official status isn't
that crap and what it does Lenski say
about this publicly he didn't denounce it outright
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But he says it's called the US vision
he claims He will give it his input
and stresses that American leadership has to remain
strong to end the war He's in trouble
politically huge and he's trying to walk a
line he won't swallow this openly But he
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ain't gonna defy Trump openly either so this
a lot of commentators, especially the Alex Mercouris
that I like to listen to the British
guy he Has had a an article if
you get a chance you could get on
YouTube and watch what he's had He has
one that says that was titled today Kiev
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defeats force the u.s. U-turn and
he wants they want to force Kiev to
accept Istanbul plus and He talked about Kellogg
quitting too, but basically his his point and
mine, too Is that 20 the 28-point
plan is really Istanbul plus this is what
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they had in 2022 after Ukraine's failed offensive
and continued losses The u.s. Is u
-turning and accepting Moscow's core demands because the
battlefield is X is forcing somebody to accept
reality and I don't know why they haven't
yet anyway But you know here we are
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still funding a losing war nonsense But that's
our our history, right?
Kellogg has quit going to Kiev.
He's done with that and he's Symbolizing that
the u.s. Team itself knows they can't
sell unlimited war to Congress anymore What are
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the Europeans crying about now, let's let's let's
listen to them whine They are angry because
they were cut out of the Negotiation.
Well, I don't know that there really was
any but there are claims that Russia was
involved in this with Whitkoff and a couple
others the plan makes no demands of Russia
according to them and is heavily tilted toward
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Russia and Tells Europe to live with a
truncated Ukraine and a renormalized Russia The Europeans
are worried.
They'll be left holding the security bag if
u.s. Attention moves on with Trump acting
as a Peace Council boss while the EU
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pays the Reconstruction Bill and Absorbs a broken
client state.
They're the ones to want the broken client
state We don't want him, but I don't
I think it's nonsense So Mearsheimer the The
I think he's a professor, but he has
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one.
It's called Ukraine and reality, right?
He says several points.
He said he and I know he's been
saying it for years because I followed him
for a long time He's been saying for
years that the West pushed Ukraine into an
unwinnable war by promising what it could not
deliver now, how can anybody deny that these
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days you just can't and And never should
have been denied and in the first place
and anybody in arms control Knew that's exactly
what we're doing Anybody in the Pentagon that
didn't know that was being paid to look
the other way or paid to say the
other Version of that that's it.
They're not experts they're people who are just
morons, you know, because anybody with even a
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small amount of Experience in this area knows
that what we were doing was pushing toward
war We know it.
I mean it's been going on for 30
years for God's sake so Now the u
.s. Is walking Ukraine back toward the very
deal it could have had in 2022 But
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at a much higher price tag in land
and blood Yep The basic thesis is this
isn't really peace It's the formalization of a
strategic defeat for Kiev and a major blow
to Western credibility What else could it be?
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This is what it is And if you
aren't acknowledging that you don't know anything So,
I mean this is this that's the truth
We pushed them towards this and they was
unwinnable from the get-go from the jump
they couldn't win this and Certainly, but but
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everybody is everybody's still saying the same crap
that people were saying about Russia in the
80s when they were when when they didn't
have the money when they didn't have the
technology when they didn't have the Manufacturing capability
when they didn't have any of that in
the Soviet Union was was Collapsing and all
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Reagan had to do was push on them
They still think it's the same place over
there That's the problem you have idiots Running
the show because it's not the same place
that it was 3035 years ago.
It's just not so How is this plan
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gonna be used by the old trumpster to
force Zelensky's hand, let's let's let's get to
it How is he gonna force it?
And what does it mean for the war?
I think I think as I said earlier
in the show that Pokrovsk is gone the
military pressure the Russian advances near Pokrovsk, Kramatorsk,
Seversk are You know are inevitable these those
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cities are Russian the end move-along smartly,
you know the the the Many analysts expect
Pokrovsk.
I say 90% of it's already gone
Solovyov opened his show talking about body exchange
This was and I may have said something
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about this a few days ago Ukraine received
a thousand bodies from Russia more than a
thousand the other day and Russia got back
30 bodies right Contrast this with Kiev claiming
or and remember they call Russians orcs right
from Tolkien and they've been saying for years.
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We're killing orcs by the thousands, right?
Yeah Really?
Where are they?
Where are they?
This is exactly the kind of reality check
that undermines Zelensky at home and abroad The
family see the corpses not the the telegram
You know videos of some idiot, you know
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saying we're killing people So the message from
Washington to the old Z monster is you're
losing ground and men if you refuse this
you're gonna lose more ground and more men
and Don't expect us to keep funding another
grand offensive That'll never get anywhere and never
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take place Anyway, because the money will be
snatched by your corrupt government and Or actors
in the corrupt government, right?
The financial and political choke is You know
this choke chain on of the on the
leash of the old Z man is u
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.s and EU money are conditional allegedly Trump
can throttle the aid and Congress is in
no mood for another blank check Although they
still been trying to hide it and get
some more in there so Everybody's talking about
fatigue corruption running out of men low morale
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Western Exhaustion that's what's going on The plan
offers Zelensky some some things though security guarantees.
He'll have those and he can Have elections
in a hundred days and claim that he
delivered peace he can take a victory lap
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if he wants Yeah Maybe and he gets
a butt-ton of reconstruction money although The
US gets a lot of the profit and
the reconstruction money is gonna be just as
corrupt as all the rest So you'll see
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some gains over there, but you'll see a
lot of oligarchs You know running off to
the u.s. With new piles of money,
too, because that's the way it is over
there But he has Zelensky does have a
gun to his head if he refuses this
in the war drags on He becomes the
man that said no to peace and lost
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more land after that You know So what
about the blame game?
What about information, you know?
Al Jazeera Predicts the plan is being rolled
out in a way that sets up a
blame trap Here it goes You leak it
to axios.
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You leak it to the Financial Times and
so You leak part of it to Al
Jazeera so Here and you leak it like
this.
Here's a comprehensive US plan Trump's plan That
even Russia likes all the courts It gives
Russia all the crap It said it wanted
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and then you signal even worse anonymous sources
and public comments that Zelensky must accept Difficult
concessions and that the u.s. Is doing
its part meaning forcing him to do something
So if this is the trap if Kiev
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and you in Europe say no Trump can
say at home, you know and and and
talking to other people who are looking to
get elected this year on the Republican side
He can say while campaigning for them that
we brought a serious plan and even the
Russians would sign it and Ukraine refused Ukraine
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is keeping the war going, right?
This is exactly what it is it's a
PR move designed to shift the narrative away
from Trump and into the Unreasonable Ukrainians and
EU which is where it belongs anyway So
I'm I mean, that's the plan.
That's the if you want to call it
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Russian disinformation But this time it's coming from
somewhere else.
Maybe we should talk about About Al Jazeera
disinformation or Anywhere else where else does it
come from axios disinformation, right?
Well, what about the legality of these personal
safety guarantees amnesty isn't just for Russians It'll
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protect a bunch of Ukrainian officials and commanders
and oligarchs who've made their fortunes on this
war They are rich and it'll offer a
clean exit for Zelensky and his circle no
investigations No Tribunals know who stole what they
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can then get to their post-war theft
and politics or Exile and they can join
something else.
So the other lever is sign this and
you're safe Refuse and when this does collapse,
you might not be so lucky you might
be targeted For being thrown in prison, right?
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hmm So what would this mean for the
war itself I mean seriously if this thing
or something like it is forced through what
do we get?
What did what does anybody get what does
the world?
Finally get Russia gets formal recognition of its
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Territorial gains and locks in the land corridor
to Crimea plus the full Donbass, which is
theirs anyway Ukraine is shrunk permanently non-aligned
a Demilitarized buffer call it Ukraine minus Moscow
gets sanctions relief Reintegration and they never have
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to admit defeat or wrongdoing.
I Don't think they've been defeated.
I mean, why would they have to admit
defeat?
They've won and the wrongdoing I Wonder if
you can really call it wrongdoing myself What
about Ukrainian wrongdoing?
What about Western wrongdoing?
What about European and u.s. Wrongdoing?
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Where's the chemical weapons discussion?
Where's the building up of Ukraine into the
attack dog for the West, where's all that?
Hmm the front line becomes the de facto
new border So the line of contact in
her son's upper Asia the Dnieper River, which
oh gee I think I may have said
that they're gonna get to the Dnieper River
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and they didn't get all the way to
the north part of the Dnieper, but they're
at the Dnieper River and They Have a
demilitarized strip You know in an area in
the Donbass any attempt by Ukraine to later
change this voids the u.s. Security guarantees
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That's it.
And but the conflict doesn't disappear it freezes,
right?
So you can expect probably low-level guerrilla
attacks sabotage terrorism on both sides intelligence war
between the two constant arguments over implementation elects
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elections language church statuses Minority rights, you know
that type of thing, but the large-scale
conventional phase of the war would be over
because Ukraine is physically unable to sustain it
if Trump can pull this off.
He's really Doing Ukraine a favor Right This
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victory is comes with a Western stamp with
a Trump stamp Moscow's early conditions can be
written up as Trump's peace vision even though
they're all Russia's peace vision and have been
for a long time and The u.s.
Gets money And they get to use that
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money and legal instruments to lock in peace
and money So I Don't know.
I find it pretty interesting.
They talked about in a lot of these
the Emotional angle, you know the Ukrainian families
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that are missing bodies, you know and don't
know what they are.
They finally get to know about it the
myth of the Western wonder weapons Is gone
people know that's a that's nonsense For attackums
all get shot down they mocked the Ukrainian
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general staff Statements and Western media hypes of
all the German leopard tanks the u.s
Bradley fighting vehicles the u.s. Abrams tanks
destroyed.
You don't hear anything about that anymore.
Do you?
You don't hear anything about it none of
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them exist They're they're gone And have been
for a year.
There's I I saw I saw something Three
four months ago, I think Is the last
I saw of a Bradley fighting vehicle.
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Where are they?
When's the last time you heard about an
f-16?
Over there crazy stuff Let's see, how did
he put it he put a Loud Laughs
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about Western Media around so-called The existence
of a plan of the US in Ukraine
Western media noise over a Supposed u.s.
Plan and They are skeptical that this is
really on paper yet with Axios has been
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the only ones to leak it He says
the all of them on that Soloviev live
said the West knows Ukraine is beaten.
They know it the Americans are looking for
an exit and Kiev is being lined up
to take the blame if they refuse well
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They are they have been to blame for
the last, you know Quite a few months,
you know, they haven't they haven't even seriously
considered any sort of peace option not remotely
They've denied since at least June If not
before that remember when Istanbul started up again
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And they you know, the Russians have been
saying we've been waiting for them to get
back with us with some new talking points
We all said where we were going to
go and that we'd meet again in a
couple of weeks never happened these narratives about
Pokrovskaya in the front line the Russia's grinding
forward all over the front lines and Ukraine
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is out of men running out of ammo
and Everybody's admitting this the Russians are winning
slowly on the ground and the u.s.
Is looking for diplomacy now To cover the
fact that they were beaten again You know
that the West has been beaten again, right?
(01:06:12):
What did Zakharova say in her briefing today?
Her briefing covered a ton of ground though.
She she she covered Lavrov scheduled Belarus Ukrainian
drone attacks on Russian civilians in in Belgrade
and Kursk areas Strikes on Nova Nova Voronezh
(01:06:34):
a nuclear power plant again So they're there,
you know, the Ukrainians are still you know,
trying to force some kind of a big
blow up at some nuclear power plants all
of Volgograd to and Voronezh including the Nova
(01:06:54):
Voronezh nuclear power plant that's bad stuff and
that kids are getting killed, you know, she
talks about that She said the Kievan neo
-nazis Continue to attack civilian Targets and terrorizing
peaceful population, it's how she put it and
(01:07:17):
Her position or what she talked about as
far as the 28-point peace plan She
said that she was actually Covered in two
different places one on tasks and one in
her briefing, right and Moscow has seen numerous
media reports describing the various points of this
(01:07:38):
plan, but no official proposal has been received
and that such issues have to go through
official channels not media and Russia's hands are
clean.
They get a look constructive and cautious, you
know and say, you know, we'll deal with
it Whatever shows up but in a later
part of her briefing, she said that the
(01:08:01):
they want For sure.
They they must have the sovereign equality of
states respect for civilizational diversity and a varied
variety of of What do you call it
cultures Russian and Ukrainian and Western attempts to
(01:08:22):
impose their own order versus sanctions and military
blockades have been wrong from the jump.
She says and She links u.s. Sanctions
plans even now against Russia's trading partners back
to Trump says destructive for global economic stability
So while the Western media is spinning Trump's
(01:08:44):
28-point vision Zakharova tells everybody Russia hasn't
received a thing Kiev is still using Western
weapons to hit civilians and nuclear infrastructure.
So she is doubtful That is doubtful from
her point of view.
I would think so So, how do you
(01:09:06):
think they're gonna sell this or force it
upon them?
How is it?
I I don't know But I don't I'm
not so positive that it's gonna be such
a hard sell because Ukraine's losing I mean
they're losing bad and They were talking Zelensky
was talking several days ago that he needs
(01:09:28):
40,000 a month people new soldiers 40
,000 a month if they were winning why
would they need that many?
They wouldn't they were there because if they're
getting killed that you know That quickly that
they need 40,000 more It is not
(01:09:49):
going well, it is just not going well
at all.
So I Don't know this is What would
the security look for we don't know how
that would look the security lines I think
that that it's probably not going to I'm
(01:10:13):
interested to see the reactions on there.
Supposedly we were gonna get some Some new
opinions on it, but I haven't seen anything
new Although sometimes this late at night, you'll
get some new Articles that are put out
for the morning and but there's nothing there
(01:10:36):
it's there's there's there's no new good stuff
That's that's come out I did want to
get into what is going on with the
Baltic Sea right now that is Kind of
distressing, you know, because this is all part
(01:10:57):
of it in this confrontation zone because NATO
is is doing all kinds of This is
when the Maria Zakharova was talking about it,
too So that she says NATO has turned
the Baltic Sea into an area of more
and more military confrontation and She says the
(01:11:19):
block is unwilling to discuss de-escalation It's
gonna have to be Trump that does it
I guess her remarks Come amid rising anti
-russian discussions in Estonia Latvia Lithuania Which are
you know, I reported from Lithuania back in
what was it September and they are very
(01:11:44):
I Don't know what angry You're an angry
little elf aren't you?
Well, they're all angry little elves in Lithuania.
I tell you what they were they're just
angry little people And Zakharova said the region
has long been a space of trade and
peaceful cooperation but It's being dismantled by NATO's
(01:12:08):
military build-up this part of Europe She
says has been turned into a zone of
confrontation Which sharply escalated as a result of
Finland and Sweden?
Joining the block the NATO block It's what
she said yesterday so she pointed out that
(01:12:29):
NATO's 2025 launch of what they called Baltic
sentry in an attempt to impose new navigation
rules and turn the the sea into the
blocks internal waters She says those are doomed
to fail and she insists that Russia will
(01:12:49):
remain a full-fledged member of the Baltic
community So this Baltic sentry project They call
it Critical they say they're protecting critical undersea
infrastructure after recent incidents Remember when they were
saying that there were communication lines cables that
(01:13:11):
were destroyed What about?
Nord Stream 2 getting destroyed right and so
There's been a big build-up in NATO
there It's very difficult to see any potential
for dialogue They're all saying aimed at reducing
tensions and NATO countries are not showing any
(01:13:34):
openness to honest discussion on ways to de
-escalate says Zakharova Estonia Latvia Lithuania adopt an
increasingly confrontational stance Officials like Andreas Koubilias who's
a former Lithuanian prime minister Continue to invoke
(01:13:55):
an alleged Russian threat to justify Much higher
military spending Koubilias warned this week of a
possible Conflict with Russia within two to four
years.
They all keep talking about it meaning.
This is what they want right?
Moscow has rejected claims of any hostile intent
of course denounces what it calls the West's
(01:14:17):
Reckless militarization and Zakharova stresses that Russia will
use all available legal means to safeguard its
own national security interests Same thing you heard
in Ukraine So even if we get rid
of Ukraine does it mean we got to
start all over again?
Who's gonna jump then and blame it on
(01:14:39):
Russia?
I?
Mean this whole war has been blamed on
Russia, right?
crazy stuff Reuters has said that that Washington
is demanding that Kiev accept the u.s.
Drafted peace plan so They're they're not allegedly
(01:15:03):
not giving Ukraine any choice they must accept
so That plan the 28 points that we
went over at length Reuters is quoting anonymous
sources saying that Washington wants Kiev to accept
the main points They just got to accept
(01:15:27):
Axios Financial Times Who else everybody is now
saying it claimed that the document?
stipulates recognizing Russian as an official language in
Ukraine Crazy stuff there.
I can't imagine they're going to do it
I Might just I can't believe I I
(01:15:51):
I think this is gonna be a big
no-go the EU Has already rejected it
the genius Kasia Kala Kasia Kala's She's on
the front page of an article right European
Union is pushing back Against the latest US
proposed plan saying the settlement must reflect positions
(01:16:15):
of Brussels Yeah, why?
What does Brussels have to do with it?
nothing, so In my opinion who gives a
crap that the the fact is you can
bring Ukraine into the EU all you want
But do you want NATO?
Good luck u.s. Won't let him in
(01:16:35):
I think the old trumpster may have said
that now in this 28-point plan The
Western media is claiming was developed in coordination
with Moscow, but not the EU so We've
already told about it President Trump Is supposed
to well according to Zelensky anyway?
(01:16:57):
He says he hopes to Speak with US
President Donald Trump in the coming days is
what he says We shall have to see
Kasia Kala says that any peace arrangement has
to reflect the positions of Both the the
(01:17:18):
block the EU and Ukraine and says that
the u.s. Proposal offered No concessions from
the Russian side Well, I didn't see a
whole lot there on the Russian side either
except the freakin money You guys have been
trying to steal from them for years The
300 billion that are in Brussels in a
(01:17:39):
bank and Trump's trying to take it all
to Trump's after the money So French Foreign
Minister Jean-Noël Barat Barreau I don't know
if you pronounce the T or not was
quoted by Reuters as saying that any agreement
must not amount to capitulation What else you
(01:18:02):
got if You guys aren't willing to go
in there and fight which you're not and
Russia would bomb the snot out of you
if you did Then what is left?
Ukraine doesn't have any ability to win this
war that isn't gonna change it hasn't changed
in four years And it's not gonna change
(01:18:24):
now unless what are you gonna?
Do go nuclear?
You want to go nuclear on this you
morons?
bad plan for all of us if you
do idiots and There are other ministers that
have said they haven't seen the document and
would need clarification Well, geez, the only way
(01:18:44):
you can get it is to read axios
Who gets it?
How does it get around there a great
government working, huh?
Moscow has always said that the EU is
obstructing US and Russian diplomatic efforts to get
rid of the conflict Instead they're working to
prolong the hostilities and they're still doing the
(01:19:06):
same thing This is the next open-ended
pledge of support financially Politically you know and
corruption also, you know, you support their corruption
if you don't take care of this problem
and So Russia, I mean Russia's calling it
like it is, right?
(01:19:27):
and According to Germany's Kiel Institute the EU
has committed 75 billion in Aid to Ukraine
since 2022 We've done a hell of a
lot more than that, you know under the
Biden Biden block, right?
(01:19:48):
Kremlin's is remains open to peace But says
Kiev is only seeking to keep the fighting
going on.
That's true Lavrov had a Had a an
interesting Appearance today and He said well, it
(01:20:08):
wasn't today is actually a couple of days
ago But he said that EU nations are
trying to elbow their way into the Ukrainian
peace process Despite their openly hostile stance toward
Russia That's what he said Speaking at an
embassy roundtable on Wednesday Lavrov said that the
(01:20:29):
EU countries are clearly trying quite brazenly to
reclaim a place at the negotiating table But
the minister said they have no business there
the block he said maintains a position of
revanchism of inflicting strategic defeat upon Russia While
(01:20:51):
debating potential troop deployment to Ukraine in case
of a ceasefire Of course, there is no
place for it or them at the negotiating
table Moscow is consistently opposed deployment of Western
troops Yep, he said that well everybody has
(01:21:13):
said for a long time that if there
were Western or NATO troops They're all legitimate
military targets to get there Lavrov noted that
both the EU and Kiev are seeking to
convince Trumpster to abandon his push to settle
the conflict and relapse into a Standoff with
(01:21:33):
Russia he said Everybody else wants essentially to
turn Biden's war into Trump's war, right?
That's what Lavrov said.
No, I've said it already is Trump's war
So, you know, but he pointed out that
Trump has been seeking to mediate an end
(01:21:54):
to the conflict And he spearheaded, you know
Decent amount of discussions.
I mean, what's he done?
He's done more than anybody else It just
hasn't been successful and I've always said he's
just gonna have to force this or Cut
off Ukraine and I think maybe he's listening
(01:22:16):
Maybe he is listening to the people like
me that have been right from the get
-go Did you guys hear that Stephen King's
book it was pulled from shelves in Russia
Now, I'm not sure I care about this
when I've read it.
I watched it on television.
I didn't like the new one It's it's
(01:22:37):
too horrifying for me.
But the old one was not too bad.
Was it a TV miniseries or something?
But Stephen King has been very very anti
-russia.
I don't think the guy knows what he's
talking about as far as this he should
stick to he I listened to a few
of his rants in the beginning of all
(01:22:59):
of this back not to begin the beginning
of the horror story was He was talking
about Ukraine being so positive and nothing and
nothing but negative about Russia.
He's nuts.
He doesn't know what he's talking about but
he says His well, his books were pulled
(01:23:20):
and the story goes it has been pulled
from sales in Russian bookstores and online marketplaces
according to Russian media reports on Thursday, this
just happened and I don't get it because
I've read this book, but it was a
while ago and it says One of his
(01:23:43):
most popular works that was published in 1986
it contains a controversial set of content including
a scene widely described as an orgy Involved
involving minors and characters with non-traditional sexual
(01:24:07):
orientations I don't remember this at all in
it and I'd have to go back and
and find it I suppose but Russia has
banned content that promotes same-sex relations in
2022 Although there's no official blacklist of Prohibited
(01:24:32):
literature that's not the state's business over there,
but a major retailer removed more than 250
books in 2024 including some of Stephen King's
so the Russia's leading publisher AST told the
business daily Vidim and videomisty that it had
(01:24:57):
temporarily withdrawn King's book it in order to
update product marking issues Which is a reference
to age restriction and content warning labels required
under Russian law so AST has long sold
it with a 16 plus age label but
(01:25:22):
It says that there was something containing an
LGBT related theme so that it had to
be an 18 plus instead of a 16
plus book, right and Bookstores in Russia are
freaking fantastic.
You know, I've gone into a bunch of
them books are cheap and they're they're everywhere
(01:25:42):
and peep I mean it's like It used
to be here.
I mean the bookstores are I love it
over there.
We're going to all these bookstores there are
tons of them, but I And and you
see these labels on them that say 16
plus 18 plus, you know, whatever But they
have a store called wild berries.
I've told you about that before and it
(01:26:05):
says that it complies with Legislation does not
allow the sale of products prohibited in Russia
But I don't think that it has anything
like that in there maybe somebody could remind
me if that was the case, but I
really don't think so and I'd have to
Check it out.
(01:26:26):
But here here here about this King has
he ceased working with his Russian publishers in
March of 2022 after well, remember the UK
the the escalation of The Ukraine conflict started,
you know when they went up that started
(01:26:47):
in February 2022 and He has actively supported
Kiev in the ongoing conflict and and accuses
Russian forces he has done it many times
of killing civilians, but he doesn't ever say
anything about the other way around I'm not
saying that there aren't errors on both sides,
but I Think there's some intentional ones on
(01:27:10):
the Ukrainian side and I haven't seen very
many of those if any at all on
the Russian side So I'd challenge that guy
to get his story straight and do a
little bit of research or quit talking about
it Because there's plenty of those stories on
the other side tons of them and It
(01:27:33):
seems to me that the more Famous you
are the more you like to take these
stories and twist them Something else just came
out Not too long ago That talks about
in the last couple of minutes Ukrainian MPs
are publishing the terms of the new peace
(01:27:54):
deal to they say they got a draft
from the US and are ready to discuss
it and so Ukrainian opposition leader Alexei gone
Sharenko.
He published the text of the plan Presented
to Kiev by the US administration And he
posted it on the social media which are
(01:28:16):
screenshots of the Ukrainian language electronic document that
detailed the 28-point plan so in the
full text he said he put all He
put every bit of it out there all
28 points in in Ukrainian and So he
(01:28:37):
I mean he it's listed his post is
out here I had to translate it, but
it's definitely out here, so it was posted
late last well for them It's it's now
early morning, but Before the evening last night.
He put it out as well, so It
(01:29:00):
came out it came out about Probably 6
7 p.m. Ukraine time so There you
have it.
We shall see what will happen on this
and it'd be nice to get some Some
peace in the world wouldn't it regardless.
I mean Jesus de-escalation or De-escalation
(01:29:20):
needs to occur and I'd be happy to
see it This is my last show of
the week, and I'll be traveling for the
holidays so there may be a little bit
of problems on my ability to Although I'm
gonna try a Sunday night my show I
know I'm traveling on that day, and I'm
(01:29:42):
gonna if I have any troubles I'll keep
you posted, but I think we'll have a
show all ready to go in the meantime
I hope you do Listen to my show
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little bit Have a very good night
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