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July 8, 2025 85 mins

Is everyone suddenly a narcissist, or are we misusing the term? Dr. Sterlin Mosley, Professor of Human Relations and author of The Narcissist in You and Everyone Else, dives deep into the misunderstood realms of narcissism and empathy. Through an eye-opening conversation, Sterlin reveals why our culture casually labels selfish behaviors as narcissistic, and why real narcissism goes much deeper, intertwining with empathy. Or rather, the lack of it.

In our conversation, you’ll discover:

  1. Why modern society sees NARCISSISM as a PERSONALITY TYPE instead of a nuanced SPECTRUM of behaviors.
  2. How narcissistic traits form EMOTIONAL ARMOR protecting a hidden, VULNERABLE core.
  3. The critical difference between EMPATHY and SYMPATHY, including four surprising types of empathy you never knew existed.
  4. Proven STRATEGIES for spotting and dealing with narcissists both at home and at work.
  5. How EMPATHY can be developed, and why COGNITIVE EMPATHY may be the key to healthier relationships.

Thank you for listening.

 

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OUTLINE:

00:00 Introduction

01:10 Who is Sterlin Mosley?

04:41 The Narcissist Label in Modern Society

08:37 Breaking Down the 27 Types of Narcissists

12:24 How to Identify a Narcissist: Common Misunderstandings

20:11 Strategies for Dealing with Different Narcissists

27:57 Do Narcissists Know They’re Narcissists?

35:49 Healthy Narcissism Explained

39:54 Is Narcissism a Choice?

47:47 Can Narcissism Be Cured or Managed?

52:53 Empathy vs. Sympathy: Clarifying the Differences

58:24 Narcissism, Envy, and Power Dynamics

01:04:11 Understanding Empathy: Definitions and Nuances

01:10:20 Cognitive Empathy and Human Connection

01:19:39 Practical Steps to Develop Your Empathy

01:24:24 Final Thoughts & Outro

 

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This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.

 

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