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Good evening, everybody. So today I have a very special guest,
Davie Cashin, who is the lead singer from the Kilkenny's, an Irish folk and
ballad group that have made a name for themselves over the years.
So, Davie, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Please tell us a little bit about yourself and where you're from,
your background and how you ended up in this band.
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Well, Ciara, it's a pleasure and honour to be on your wonderful podcast.
I'm joining the list of great guests that came before me, so I'm happy to be here.
I'm in the marvellous city of Kilkenny, southeast of Ireland,
and I'm in my home studio where I do all my songwriting, singing,
and come up with all the great ideas that are going to take over the world.
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But yeah, delighted to be on the show. I've got a few weapons and instruments beside me here.
We might be able to take them out later on if we have time and yeah
i'm in a band called we'll make the time
i'm in a band called the kilkenny's we're a folk group we've
been touring the world for over 20
years believe it or believe it not we myself and tommy mackie
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and my brother adam we put the band together while we were in school we were
studying for our leaving cert which is our final exam in a secondary school
and we should have been studying but we weren't we were rehearsing so we could
play gigs at the the weekend in pubs and get free drink or just get our name
out there and maybe a little bit of pocket money.
And that's how it all kicked off. We enjoyed the music so much that we decided
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to skip college, put a band on the road and roll the dice and see where it took us.
And that chance took us all over the world.
Wow. So you write your own songs as well?
Writing, we do traditional music, which is a lot of like the tunes from the
west of Ireland and Clare, like the home of traditional Irish music.
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So the instrumental pieces.
And then we love ballads. Ballads is our main thing.
Ballads and singing the folk songs, you know, telling the story of Ireland through
music and poetry and song.
And it's folk music written for the people and it's by the people.
So it's a strong stories of the working class in Ireland and the oppression,
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the good times, the bad times, the ups and downs.
So everybody knows the story of Ireland and we're just helping it along with
the music and as entertaining a fashion as we can.
That's brilliant. I didn't I didn't realize that. So you're going to be coming
to the UK, I believe, very shortly.
We can't wait. I'm actually restringing all the instruments here,
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getting them all polished up into the cases because we head to the UK tomorrow
to kick off a three-week tour all over the UK.
We kick off in Corby tomorrow night, a beautiful theatre called The Cube.
And we've played there many times and we're looking forward to a good start
to the tour. And then you can look at our dates on thetilkennys.com.
And we might be in a city or a town near you and you might be able to come see
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us yourself, Ciara. We'll put you on the guest list. Oh, brilliant.
Yes, I'd love that. I would definitely.
Yes. Afterwards, you can let me know when it is. So tell me this.
You have four guys in the band.
Obviously, there's different personalities. I know how my relationship is with
my own family. It's a really strong family. We're close.
However, it's family. You can kill each other at the same time.
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How does that manifest fest in the band?
A band is probably the closest thing to a family as you will experience.
Not everybody gets to play in a band. It's not for everybody.
A lot of the bands that start off in school, a lot of them break up and,
They don't manifest and it doesn't happen. It's just like a relationship.
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They all don't work out, you know. But when it comes to family,
that's what a band is like.
Sometimes it really clicks and you become a family and you're on the road and
you're in each other's pockets and you can get tired of the road and you can get tired of each other.
But if anybody crosses any other member, guess what? They're all in to defend
you and back you up all the way.
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So it's a really hard thing to keep together. and ask
any of the acts that have been on the road for for decades like
the eagles you too any of the big boys it's it's
hell it's heaven and hell the eagles actually call it heaven and hell
because sometimes it's brilliant sometimes it's absolute
nightmare and it's a tough tough thing to keep
going but you can get the magic right and stay
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out of each other's way as much as you can you might
be able to get it to work you make it work and tell
me this with the different personalities i always love
to know you know when i'm looking at a band and i'm admiring their music
what type of personality do you have and.
The rest of the band tell me each each
one has their own little yeah it's um
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it's a tough thing to describe your own
personality because it's it's something that's a
view by somebody else so it might be for somebody
else to explain what kind of a person i'm
sure i i get my whole life kira you're mad
as a brush you're mad as a brush that's what i'm getting my whole life so
pretend it's a friend matters i suppose i
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when you're in music you kind of have an ear
and you kind of want everything to be right and
i don't want to say perfection because nothing is perfect
but you want things you have a
vision or a plan in your head and you want to see it
through and you hope everybody else is on the same page as
you you and you can set out set
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out your stall and make it happen and sometimes sometimes
it does sometimes it doesn't so i suppose i'd have the personality of
trying trying to make it happen i'd be fairly easy
going i like having fun probably take it a bit too serious when we're behind
the scenes you know just making sure it's right but when we're on stage we all
relax into it we get the fun off the audience get them involved and personality
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wise yeah some guys are quiet Some guys like to sleep,
some guys like to get up and get going.
I like to get up in the morning, get running, get exercise, get the blood and
the oxygen flowing, get the ideas flowing.
And then, but you ask the guys about me, they'll probably say I'm an absolute
nightmare, but that's for them to say.
We all have our idiosyncrasies. We all definitely have those.
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In your family, was there a musical background? Was mummy and daddy playing
instruments at a young age? Did they encourage this?
Yeah, you might have heard of things called the kitchen sessions,
you know, like they're an old tradition where, you know, people back in the
day mightn't have been able to afford to go to the pub or even have money.
So things called the kitchen session started. So maybe in rural Ireland,
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all the families would come into the kitchen and they'd all have a little party piece.
They might sing, they might dance, they might play an instrument.
And you'd see lots of old black and white footage of that.
Growing up in the 80s and 90s in Kilkenny, we were in rural rural Ireland,
and we had kitchen sessions every weekend.
We lived very close to a pub called the Cave Bar, a attached cottage in rural Kilkenny.
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And when the pub would close at 11 or 12, my dad would get everybody that was
in the pub back to our house.
And I was only like five, six, seven, eight years of age, but I would be allowed
to stay up and join in sessions with the drink, the smoke,
the singing, the dancing, thing and that's where
it kicked off for me I said this is fun and if
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you're having fun it's worth doing so that's where it started with
my dad my mom was always in the background listening
loves listening to music I loved Irish dancing and only recently my mother asked
me can I get piano lessons and my mother's you know she's up up in years and
she's not that old but she said I want to get piano lessons and I said well
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first of all we need to get a piano and she said no I'll I'll get the lessons first.
And then if I'm any good, I'll get a piano.
I said, no. So I went out and I got her a piano. I said, here,
ma'am, now we can start learning the piano.
And this is only like five, six weeks ago.
So we learned a few chords and she's progressing brilliantly and it's never too late.
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So you want to pick up something and like, just go and do it.
That's beautiful. Well, aren't you a very nice son to do that for?
And you're right, because practice makes perfect so we always
we'll start something we think we can't do it and we don't but
you know she might have a good day and practice and then
might have a bad day another day and go back so no well done so
you guys you guys made it to the late late show how did the family feel when
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they seen their guys going on to the late late show i mean you've made it in
life once you've hit that yeah well it's one of those irish institutions and
traditions and the late late show So I think it's the world's longest running chat show.
And it was kind of from the birth of RTE. We had Gay Barn. We had Pat Kenny,
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Ryan Tuberty. Now we have Patrick Hilty.
They were some of the guests. Jerry Ryan did a guest one when Pat Kenny couldn't make it.
So all these great names and all the great acts that played over the years.
So it's like a rite of passage.
If you make it onto the Late Late Show, you've made it. I'm not sure if that's
the case anymore because of social media and YouTube and.
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People have different avenues and platforms to get their art music out there which is fantastic,
but it's still a little feather in the cap and it's
still fantastic to make an appearance on one of
the world's leading chat shows and that's the late late show we got on with
a song called homeland and that was written by mick hanley and the famous jimmy
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mccarthy who wrote right on and hundreds and hundreds of other fantastic songs
he's a good friend of mine and the bands and he He suggested we record this
song. He said it would suit you perfectly.
So we got in. We got in the Arish Celebration Choir, who did really well on
Britain's Got Talent. They joined us. They're Kilkenny based as well.
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Beautiful vocalists, all female act.
They collaborated with us. We had a big orchestra, big sound.
And we shot it all around the lovely scenes of Kilkenny in the castle and up
along the streets and alleyways.
And it came out really well. It's on YouTube if anybody wants to see it.
So yeah that was our debut on the late late show and we haven't looked back since that was.
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2017 i think but um when you do when
you do something like that do you get a lot more
work from it when people see you do they tend to you know does the phone start
hopping all of a sudden you've been on the late late show do you get more work
from it absolutely and there's no such thing as bad exposure really or bad publicity
so the more you put yourself out there the more more eyes are going to be on
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it the more ears are going to be on it so you have a better chance of
getting those extra bookings that you might not have gotten otherwise.
So, yes, self-promotion is important in the game.
A lot of acts and artists, you know, they might be shy and they might like to
put themselves forward as much, you know, in a grandiose self-promoting way.
But it's kind of comes part and parcel with the game.
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If nobody knows your music, if your music is sitting in the drawer,
nobody's going to hear it. So you've got to put it out there and see what happens.
That's so true. And I always say you could have the best product in the world,
but if you don't know how to sell it, then there's no point having it because
you have to be able to do that.
There was something I wanted to ask you there. Yeah, you're a very humble person
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and I'm getting, you know, you're just so laid back and such a kind person to speak with.
It's an honour to have you on today, but do you ever let fame get to your head?
Does it ever at any point? Did it, you know, it doesn't know?
Well, you have to be famous before it can go to your head.
So I kind of like the idea of...
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I like my own time as well, you see. And I often wondered how the ultra famous,
like the super, super famous that literally can't go anywhere, you know, like L.A.
Superstars, politicians, rock stars, like I think that would be really difficult
to deal with and handle, you know, because if you're a private person, you like your own space,
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you like your own time, and you just all of a sudden that's gone because you're
in a huge movie or you have a worldwide smash hit.
You know one it's two sides of the
coin it's a duality you know it can be great but
there's a another side to it i kind of liked uh ronnie drew's
take on it he he was always flirting with fame he liked the idea of fame but
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maybe not actually go all in so um he he had a certain amount of anonymity around
the world but in other parts maybe in dublin he was super famous and he He might avoid those areas.
So thanks for the compliments. We like to stay grounded.
Let's not get away with ourselves. Let's do the job. Do it well.
Make sure everybody has a good time.
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Comes to the shows. We put on our show as best we can and give everybody a good
time. And that's all you can really do.
And keep the ball rolling. Keep the ball rolling. You're so good. Thank you so much.
So I believe that you said at the start of this podcast that you would treat us to a couple of songs.
I can if you want. I haven't planned on it, but seeing as all the instruments
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are here, both at hand, I don't know, you were saying there's a couple of songs
you liked. Beautiful love song from Scotland.
And I won't sing it all, but it's a beautiful one.
Caledonia, we have it. Caledonia, yes. Let me tell you that I love you and I
think about you all the time.
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Caledonia, you called me. Now I'm going far.
If I should become a stranger, know that it would make me more than a son.
Caledonia's been everything I've ever had.
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Especially for you, Caledonia. I love it. I sang it at my granddad's funeral. It's a beautiful song.
You sang it? Yeah, no, I don't have a note at the back of my head,
OK? I just sang it for my granddad.
Wow. So if I had known that, you should have been singing it with me.
And you said your dad likes a couple of the rebel songs. Yes,
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my father loves the rebel song.
What's your dad's name? Pádraig Macnamee. Pádraig.
We'll sing this one for you. It's a Kilkenny song. We like singing the rebel
songs ourselves, the patriotic ones.
This is a Kilkenny one called Highland Paddy. I'll give you a little verse of it.
One even fears how the sun will shine To kill Kenny, hide him right Hide him in a couch in Brady,
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He'll follow Commander by his side Sing it for me!
Let him farewell Come by the paddy By your side you'll surely stand Hear the
people shout for freedom We'll rise in the morning with a peeing mask.
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A bit of Highland Paddy. Well done.
Davey, thank you so much. And I really do appreciate you singing the songs to us down here.
So this is going to be made into an audio, so people won't get to see this, but they will hear you.
Should anybody wish to book you or to contact you, the best way to do that would be?
Yeah, just go to our website, thekilkennys.com. Instagram, Facebook,
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all our music's on Spotify.
We're all over the internet, but there's a better way to see the Kilkenny's
and that's live in the theatre because you can't beat live music.
So come see us at a venue near you all over the UK for April and all around
the world then after that for the rest of the year. So look us up here.
Thanks for taking the time to talk to me. Really appreciate it.
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Thank you so much. God bless.