April 25, 2024 • 31 mins
Join us in a captivating discussion with Dublin's acclaimed recording artist, Paddy Casey, in this episode of the Sound of the Soul Podcast. Relive Paddy's fascinating journey from a young dreamer in Crumlin's coolest locales to a sought-after touring artist. Learn about the early influences in his career, the inspiration behind his popular track 'Saints and Sinners', and his profound love for music. Dive into a compelling discourse on the power of music on human emotions and reminisce about nostalgic locales such as Crumlin and the Mission Hall.
Get ready to engage with Paddy as he shares his experiences and perspectives on fame, his song creations, and the lasting impacts of the pandemic on the industry. With discussions ranging from personal struggles to the joys of creation, and including a magical live performance from Casey himself, this episode is a heart-warming exploration of an artist's journey.
Get an intimate look into Paddy's world – a blend of music, passion, and inspiring tales. The episode is textured with intriguing anecdotes about Casey's truth-seeking spiritual retreats, his personal experiences with illness, and his insights into the challenges and rewards within the industry. Tune in for an authentic insight into the life and mind of Paddy, certain to inspire, provoke thought, and tug at your heartstrings.
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Good evening, everybody. So today I'm joined with Paddy Casey.
He is a singer, songwriter and recording artist from Dublin.
After receiving his first guitar at the age of 12, Paddy got his big break 12
years later when Sony offered Paddy a recording contract.
You're very welcome onto the show, Paddy. It's an honour to be interviewing somebody so talented.
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Hello, Ciara. How are you? I'm good, thank you. So Paddy, tell us,
whereabouts in Ireland are you from?
I'm i was i'm from dublin crumlin in the south side of dublin which is,
it's kind of the i don't know probably
the coolest part of dublin actually if you ask anyone yeah
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i lived in crumlin no i'm from crumlin who've we
got we've got phil in it we've got a couple of boxers
and a football player so we've got that's right mcgregor is
he from crumlin as well conor mcgregor supposedly from
crumlin i think he is i think he was there when he
was younger and then i think he moved somewhere else did he maybe he possibly
did i don't follow conor mcgregor no offense conor if you're listening to this
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but we'll try getting on the show actually yeah i think he was there he was
definitely i think he definitely went to crumlin boxing club ah okay yeah i
knew there was some i might be wrong about that.
I know I'm not a connoisseur I saw I watched the documentary actually thought
it was good but I don't know much else about him I haven't I know where he gets
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his hair cut that's about it the old county barber shopping he gets his hair well he used it,
yeah oh then me we're getting it mixed up so tell me this I'm originally from
Clondalkin I did live in Crumlin I lived in Windmill many many years ago when
I lived there there wasn't many opportunities opportunities for me growing up.
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I lived there for quite some time. Are you from there?
I'm originally from Clondalkin, but I moved from Clondalkin when I was...
No, no, no. I moved from Clondalkham when I was a kid. I was probably 14 and
then I moved to the country.
In the midst of that, I moved to Crumlin. So what was it like growing up there?
Was there a music family?
Was there people that inspired you there?
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No, we didn't. We didn't have a lot of music, but my dad used to sing when he
was drunk, you know, I don't know if that counts as a musical family.
I think my granddad sang some songs and they, my, my granny's family had a bunch of stuff.
They had like a lot of Irish stuff and, you know, some, some kind of 60s stuff.
And in our house, I think we had, we'd like three or four tapes.
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We had the Dubliners for Sundays.
We had, what else did we have? We had Krista Borg, I think was one of them.
And Supertramp, one of my brothers had a Supertramp album and yeah.
And then my brother got kind of came of age, my older brother next up for me.
And, and he started collecting music and he got a great collection together. I think so.
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I never heard of the last band that you're talking about, Supertrue.
Supertramp Supertramp you have heard Supertramp you just don't know you've heard
I love it you say things with conviction when all the world's asleep the questions
run so deep for such a simple man,
when I was young I thought that life was so magical you do know it oh I know
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that one I only know the rave version back in the rave days.
Yeah okay well that's interesting I
didn't know I know that that so so you had a brother that
that inspired you then was it your brother my brother beuno started collecting
music he was really good at collecting music he was kind of the oddball and
crumlin who had a really good music collection you know so so that i he might
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have you know in some way got me more into music because before that i think i was more into.
Hurling i was a hurler no i think
i would have never put you down
as a hurler very good my brothers would be
listening to this today and uh they love hurling so does
my father i i was never without a hurl in my hand for a while do you ever go
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and play hurling now no i think i get killed now if i gave it another go i haven't
done it see as soon as i got the guitar i kind of started playing all day every
day and then i kind of started going busking so So, yeah, that was the end of my hurling.
Is it really difficult? I mean, does it take a lot of confidence to get out
and start busking or is it less?
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Do you kind of care more or care less when you're busking because you're just
doing it for maybe a bit of pocket money? You're not afraid of being judged?
Well, no, to be honest, at the time I kind of left home as well.
I was done. I was done with living at home. So I went busking.
So I was doing it for a living. But I was staying.
My brother got a flat and I stayed with him for a while.
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And stuff and then i met i met this guy who was roughly because i was pretty young like i was like,
13 maybe 12 when i started i was pretty young you know i can't remember exactly what it was because
my brain stopped working a few years ago but but he he was the same age as me
this guy called colin that the two of us decided that well actually i had gone to galway for a while,
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and so he i came back from galway and we and i met him and i went there's this
magical place skull go away we should go and the two of us went and we lived
there for a couple of years or.
You know, so we just kind of traveled around from very young busking.
And you're right, Galway is very magical.
Every time I go. At the time it was great. It was amazing, you know.
It is. And they still welcome Irish singers and songwriters into their pubs.
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You always get good music in Galway.
I don't spend enough time there anymore, actually. I should go down for a few weeks or something.
Oh, are you touring then around Ireland at the moment or are you touring the
UK? I'm always gigging. I've just, I've been gigging since then, you know.
You don't stop. I haven't really stopped it. There's one thing that really,
I was just listening to your music before we got on and Saints and Sinners,
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okay, you probably have been asked it a thousand times,
but every time you sing it, I've watched you sing it on The Late Late Show,
I've watched you sing it on a different platform, I've probably watched about
five or six before we started tonight.
And I just feel every time you sing it, it's like the first time you're singing it.
How do you do that? I mean, you must have played that song thousands.
I think that might be your brain.
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Oh, it's just so beautiful, honestly, I've studied this before we got on,
it's just like it's your first time, you sing every word with your heart.
I mean, I think with music, you kind of, you don't play the songs you don't
really want to play, you know.
That was a rule I always set myself, busking as well.
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I find it weird like I know you look I'm not
giving out but I find it weird that kids are playing are busking
but they're using iPads because like if you don't
know the song and love the song why are you playing
it but that's just a weird thing that that was just a weird thing from back
then I suppose it's not a different generation the day I stopped liking singing
but I think with Saints and Sinners for me it's great because like I don't even
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really think about the song that much because it's just what happens when I
play it at gigs is amazing amazing anyway. It is.
Yeah, the whole room kind of lifts and it's amazing. So I like it doesn't even
matter. I could be singing the alphabet and I wouldn't give a shit.
It's it just feels good to sing it anyway because of what's going on in the room, you know.
And when you're not. No, I mean, I if I don't like a song, I'll stop playing
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it, you know. Yeah, well, that's understandable.
When you're not playing music, do you what songs do you play like to listen and inspire you?
What do you. Oh, God, that's a mad question.
You're famous now. You can't say that without upsetting half of Ireland.
Who do I love? Who do I love?
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Jesus. I used to be a big, massive Prince fan.
I think I still am, but not, you know, I don't listen to him as much as I used to.
I mean, I love the Velvet Underground. I still listen to quite a lot of old
stuff. There's a few new kids on the block that I love as well. I like your man.
Dermot. Tyler, the creator. He's kind of a rap guy. I don't know if you know him. He's really good.
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I'm so bad. I don't watch the news and I barely watch TV. In fact,
before we did the interview, I was like, I know your name.
I've known it for years. I know that you're a big part of Ireland.
But to rekindle the memory, I had to listen to a song. OK, Saints and Sinners.
Then I realized that I knew most of your songs that you sang.
And I just thought, wow, I can put a face to this.
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Yeah, well, look, that's fine. That's not you. I've never heard your music before. It's great.
No, no, no, no. It's not that. It's honestly, if you ask any of my friends,
even my father, he always goes crazy at me me because he'll say something
is on the news and I would never I don't watch it I remember when with
the thing with Maddie was on and the whole world were talking about it
I was cutting somebody's hair and he said oh it's so sad about that
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girl I said what girl he said are you serious you don't know
and you know so that's not you that's me I just
I don't watch tv but I'm absolutely obsessed with your
music I love it absolutely love it and it brought me back to
my childhood I used to listen to some of the songs Saints and
Sinners what is it about it's sadder
than it sounds and I don't really want to say it kind of started out
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as a slow song actually it was kind of and i
sent it to my record label they didn't really get it and it
was kind of slow and it wasn't slow but it wasn't the
way it wasn't as upbeat as it it's kind of like i mean it's just about it's
kind of it's just not to homeless in homeless and how easy it is to end up that's
what i got from the first line that's what i thought i mean i thought it was
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obvious but people i thought people down kind I kind of just thought it was
a love song or something.
I don't know what. But do you know why that is? And I always get this with musicians.
People listen to how it makes them feel. So whatever vibration they're on and
how the music is making them feel, they're not listening to the lyrics.
And this is, I am so obsessed with lyrics, words, and I understand things.
And I'll always, my husband calls me.
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He says, you have some sort of genius mindset. But he said, I don't know what you can use it for.
You can just recall lyrics no matter where or what they're from.
A song that I've heard 10 years ago, I'll be able to recall lyrics.
Because in my head, I'm playing the story, you know, of each verse.
So, yeah, anyway, I really love that song. And yeah, if I ever die,
I want you to sing it at my funeral.
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And anyone that's listening, Paddy has just agreed.
He's just given me the nod here. You can't see, but he said he will.
I'll be gone before you know.
Oh, don't say that. Too good a woman. Male and Irish. You don't have that long.
I love the fact that you still have your Irish accent. Women in Ireland always
live way longer than I think. Because they put the stress on the husbands.
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I think so, yeah. I think so. I think the old Ireland, yeah.
I think it's just because all the shit they have to deal with,
they get a few years afterwards just to relax.
I think that's kind of my take on it, you know. Well, men, I've had this discussion
with a neuroscientist last week.
I sound very, very well there. But he was explaining, but men think analytically
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and women think with emotion.
So when you're thinking of something, if you listen to one of my podcasts,
as he gets into detail about this.
But basically, men will take something that's real black and white.
They're like, if your partner turns around and says, oh, hug me or don't hug
me, it really means hug me.
And you've just listened to what she said, put it in the box, went and not hugged her.
And she's having her big crazy moments saying, well, why hasn't he hugged me?
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And goes to her friends and gives out stink about you. And you're oblivious
to what has actually happened.
Women are very, very unusual creatures. Very unusual.
So, Paddy. I'll get one someday. you'll get one someday oh if there's any singles
out there paddy casey's looking to find love.
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You probably get loads of hits so tell me this how has fame affected your life.
I mean i remember well like when when living was i mean now it's it's it's perfect
because no one gives a shit anymore so it's great like i don't mean that in
a bad way like but obviously when But there was times when like it was kind of,
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you know, you were kind of, it was hard to relax, I suppose, or whatever.
You didn't have any time. You didn't have any, you didn't have a day to yourself or whatever.
Do you know what I mean? Is it because your face was all over Irish TV?
Yeah, but also because, you know, I had, I was with a label and I kind of,
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they kept me working a lot.
Not in a bad way. I mean, I did the work I wanted to do. It wasn't there.
They weren't they weren't beating me with a stick like it was just
uh yeah I think it's
nicer now to do the gigs I want to do and just and the rest of the time work
on new stuff or do whatever you know so it's nicer to not be famous well you're
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still very much famous but what's happening is you're allowing yourself to work
and gig and do the things that you want to do independently independently.
I've a friend who's a fantastic photographer and he says the same thing,
you know, like if he brings out something, everybody knows his pictures,
you know, everyone wants it.
But then when he's not doing that creative work or that line,
he's not in the limelight anymore.
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And sometimes that's a nice breather. You know, he, I often watch the video
of Dua Lipa yesterday, right?
I'm not comparing, I know she's like, whatever, she's way bigger than whatever,
but I just think, I just saw this video of her and she came out on the street to do something.
And she was having the crack, like doing this little thing. But then she realized
that people had started noticing it was her or whatever.
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And then she just ran because, because that's what it's like.
Like she could literally just can't hang out in the street or whatever.
Do you know what I'm saying?
That's scary. Like that's a shit life if you ask me. Like it's kind of.
Yeah. People going through your bins is a shit life.
Oh my God. People go through people's bins? They do go through your bins.
People show up in your garden and hang around your windows sometimes.
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Not in a long time, but they used to, you know. oh
my god that's just that's a little bit too weird
it is i think it's kind of it's not
whatever i mean you're part of that thing but
i think i think when you get your
time back you're just like thank thank god
for that did you ever consider changing your
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identity and changing your hair color because i was never i was
never that i was to be honest i only had like a touch of
you know know whatever so it was to me it was like well that's
enough of that but the gigs
I love the gigs you know the gigs are amazing now like and
I think it's I think it's because yeah I
think everyone who wants to be there is there now you know well
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because of your okay I won't use I
don't I know when I get people on they don't like to use what I'm
saying oh the levels of success or fame so let's just.
Say your your career do you
not be gigging at pubs and women are just throwing themselves
to you because of what you
mean to irish people and for the music that you produce
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i think like like the people that come to my gigs are
older now so they're not really their husbands
are usually with them or whatever you know and even
if they're in the in the other other area i
don't know no and no it used to happen a little
bit but no i'm not i was never that famous i don't think you know and what about
crumlin you stalkers but no there's nothing wrong with a stalker listen we're
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in the 21st century it's perfectly normal to pick up instagram and go through
your ex's profile without feeling
like a stalker just for any of the listeners out there I don't know,
I'm joking yes do you ever gig in Crumlin anymore do you know what I've done
a few charity things in in Crumlin there isn't really a venue in Crumlin I've
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always wanted to play actually near where you grew up.
There's a place called the mission hall and i
won i did my first time i ever sang in front of people was
in the mission hall and i've always kind of wanted to do that again
mission hall is on cashel road which was kind of maybe
you didn't know maybe you were windmill right i was windmill but i mean it was
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a base i literally i was like you i i moved from quite a young age okay and
i mean well there's a place on cashel road called the mission hall and it's
like a community hall or whatever it It wasn't very big,
but I kind of always just for, you know, for nostalgia.
I'd love to do a gig there, you know, I don't even know if it's still there,
if it's still if it's still does stuff.
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I mean, I've seen the building is still there because I every time I go to town,
I drive to Crumlin just for the crack.
I just drive past my house just to see it again. You know, oh,
I tried to do that with my house in Clondalkin and I just every time I did it
three times since I moved.
And every time I went, I just cried. You'd bump into somebody and it'd be an
old neighbor that tell you another neighbor died. And the three times that I
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went, the three times I came out crying. So I decided not to do it anymore.
My life was a little bit more happier then when I went to Crumlin.
We used to have parties, different stage of my life.
So tell me this. How many albums have you made and how many songs have you written? Hmm.
I've written a lot of songs that I've never done anything with.
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But the last album I did was a double album that had 20, 24, 25 songs on it, I think.
Wow. How long does it take to make an album like that?
Well, that took a few years, but I didn't. It wasn't really that it took a few
years. It was just that COVID struck.
COVID knocked a few years onto it, you know. So in the end, I gave in.
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I just did it just because we didn't know if COVID was ever going to end, you know.
So i just must have been scary for your career i mean okay you could to be honest
it was kind of crap but uh it was also kind of nice to have an excuse not to do anything because.
You knew everyone else although actually it
turns out a lot of people went back to work and stuff but music musicians
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we couldn't go back to work but it turned
out everyone else was doing nothing so there was no one to be jealous of or
you know everyone else is in their houses so
like i did other stuff i wrote stuff and like you
know i tried to i wasn't very good with
at the online thing i don't think it suited me if i can't smell
people i don't you know doesn't i don't
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like that analogy if i can't smell people you
know what i mean like it's not a real gig if you feed and thrive off
people around you yeah so have
you ever got thing kind of yet was scary
at first but then once you know the
banks kind of made it so i didn't have to pay the mortgage for
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a while or whatever you know all that crack and so once you
figured out that you know it's going to be shit for a while but you have all
this free time and i got i wrote a musical i wrote stuff i'd never done in a
million years you know so stuff i'd never given myself time to do i suppose
you You know, I think lots of people did that.
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So you were going through heartache as well.
I just read briefly in one of the just before your album. Is it like Adele?
Did you get three or four albums out of the heartbreaker?
That's why it's the double album, because one side is like the breakup and the
other one isn't the breakup.
So I'm a huge Adele fan, but I often say I don't blame the husband's leaving
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because she's got three albums of one husband.
She's still talking about her breakup. up so I would
be devastated if my partner was singing about their ex
no I'm not that bad I mean it's kind
of hidden a little bit but you know the songs are there so oh
well they're deep I'm not calling anyone an asshole
you know I'm just gonna sing through
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my guitar and tell you how I feel and pretend it's nothing to do with you Mary
yeah exactly now who are you I never met you before for me so you can't get
sued I don't know I try not to put people in too much if I can help because
I like you I'd hate the idea of somebody writing something.
About me in a weird way. Yeah but then you
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have to also embrace the fact that it's where you are
where you were back then and when I was writing a
book I would speak and I'd be in a moment of
that chapter that it's probably a moment like yourself sometimes I
you know you wish you didn't have that chapter in your
life but you're writing it down because you want to be as honest as you can writing the book
then a few and you might have a little cry then a few days later you
might come back and just read over the chapter and you're in a different headspace
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because you're not reliving it but you're reading what you've just written
which is all truth and you think oh shit I want
to take that off or I don't want to put that in but I made myself
keep stuff in my book purposely because that that was
the truth that was my truth and I have to just I have to live it and and and
own it you know and people like yeah I mean there's a degree of that I mean
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the truth will set you free and all that you know probably gets to the first
I mean I do I would definitely yeah Yeah,
I'd rose tint a few things in my life, I think, you know. That's okay.
Only actually to the point where I've completely forgotten some shit that I actually did.
Sorry, I keep cursing, but. Okay, we're on Irish.
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Yeah, no, so I like, I would definitely keep some secrets to my grave.
Really? I'd say so, yeah. I'm definitely not.
I'm kind of Like I'm open But I've also got Some mad stuff In my head That I
just Will never tell anyone Oh my god We're gonna have to Get Paddy drunk Because
you know what We all do I think you know And it's only something You start to
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realise As you get older Like you know You think you're You think you're like
mad And if anyone ever Finds out the truth When you're a kid.
They'll lock you up, you know, in some ways. No, it's not. I was listening to
one of your lyrics there. I don't even know what song it was.
And one of the lyrics, what was it saying?
Oh my God. But just like what you said there, you're like, you think you're
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weird, but the world is weirder.
Or did you know it's the world is weirder? I can't remember what it was,
but I literally just listened. I don't know which one you're getting at there.
It was like, did you know how weird the world was? But you think,
look, if you don't know your own song here, Paddy. I think I know what you're getting at.
Yeah, well, anyway, I've listened to it and that's exactly what came. into my
head of you just sitting there looking at the world and looking at
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someone and thinking well everybody thinks
that about you don't know that when you're young you kind of you know when
you're young you want to be like everyone else paddy you want to be a sheep you
want to fit in well i also taught
i also kind of you're on of it you're in
a headspace where you're like if anyone ever kind of
knew that the mad thoughts in your head
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or whatever you know you'd be like like yeah but you are not
your thoughts isn't that what no but this is just the this is
just the thing a mistake you make when you're a kid i think you know
well it is absolutely and particularly i'm very spiritual and if you're i won't
go into it because we're on radio but i'll tell you another time but if you
never mind i'm not even going to say what i was going to say but yes i understand
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what you're saying but no everyone goes to that stage and like i said people want to fit into,
to a box when they're growing up it's when you get older that you just want
to stand out and the end the other day actually what was that what was i watching
what was i reading oh no i'm reading it it's it's actually a comic book and
it's called i love monsters.
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It's so creative it's a little girl yeah
it's just a little girl and she imagines she's a
monster and and then she's like
yeah she explains the word monster actually
i can't do you know what i should go and get the book and come back i
can't remember it's too good a quote to mess it up but there's
this comic called i love monsters and it's kind of this
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little girl's kind of story or whatever do me a favor when we
finished here tonight send me the quote because it
sounds sounds absolutely crazy you can
put it on the podcast i'll put it on the podcast had
his famous quote it was good it
was definitely a good one for like i was like i wish i was that clever when
i was that age or whatever you know so sometimes it's just thinking out of the
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box and and using your own imagination but you know as as my friend would say
creativity has been pushed out of people from when they're young and when they're
in schools you know because they know how powerful It is.
I went on a spiritual retreat years ago and I took ayahuasca,
which is a spiritual plant medicine.
And when I tell you, it opens up every sense that you didn't even know you had.
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You will never look at the world the same again.
It's mind blowing.
Was there ever a time, Paddy, that you felt you wanted to come away from music
and start a different career?
Not even slightly, no. know oh that's beautiful i i don't i don't see the point
you know like it's one of the best jobs in the world to have you know absolutely
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i mean it takes a long time to kind of you have to put a lot of hours in and
whatever but it's it's a great job there's no you know what's the biggest challenge.
It's a bit bit trickier now for people like i'm glad i'm not starting now like
it's really hard for kids to make a living out of it why is that i thought it
was easier for them now because they They have all their social media.
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They can get this. People are giving them donations on the internet or something.
I don't know how they're making a living, you know.
Spotify? Some people do well busking. No, God, Spotify is the biggest ripoff
that ever happened. Are you serious?
Spotify is the worst thing that ever happened to music, ever.
Except it's spread music around, you know. I mean, you get to listen to...
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What? At a discount. It's spreading it around at a discount.
Oh, no, nobody makes money off Spotify. The only people who make money off Spotify are big labels.
And a few hand-picked artists.
Wow. Nobody makes money off it. Spotify has killed the way people used to make money anyway.
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What happens if you just have a cold or you are sick and you just can't perform?
Like I'm smothered with a cold, which is probably why you're wondering why I
have a scarf on. I'm absolutely smothered with a cold the last three, four days.
But if you were to get sick, what do you do? or did you just tell your thousands
of fans? It happened a few times. I mean...
I think I've missed like four gigs, five gigs in my life from,
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from being from just no voice.
Like you're sick is fine. No voice. You can't, there's nothing you can do about
it. You know? So, do you know this podcast? Sure.
You know, a lot of people, a lot of people in the music business like would.
Actually have a backing tape just in case they lose their voice.
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Wow. Because to actually the, the,
the cost of cancelling the gig is way
worse than you know oh really oh
i suppose yeah and then you have a lot of big gigs i'm
talking about like crow park or whatever you know they'll have
a backing tape rather than than cancel the gig so there you go oh we'd have
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to get a hologram in none of the star i mean personally it doesn't happen very
very often but it has happened a few times where you just can't sing and there's
nothing you can do about it you know look Look at Lewis Capaldi.
He made me cry when he was singing and his voice went because of his Tourette's.
My husband has Tourette's syndrome and I didn't even know Lewis Capaldi had it.
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And when I heard him sing and seeing humanity, oh, wow, I love that clip.
Paddy, you know the way this is a new podcast and you know the way we both lived
in Crumlin and you're Irish and I'm Irish and I'm a nice person and you're a
nice person. And you know the way Saints and Sinners is a song that,
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you know, off by heart without looking at the lyrics.
Can I have a little bit so I can always say Paddy Casey sang to me on... Can I do it with a guitar?
Yeah, you can do it with a guitar. There's that 6.32 on our timer.
So if it cuts off, it's worth it. Just a little bit.
6.32, is that what you have left? Yeah, you have 6.14 now. It's just the platform.
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Can you edit all this nonsense out?
Yeah, I can edit all this if I need to edit it, but I think your voice is beautiful,
so I don't think you'll need to edit it.
No, I mean this, getting the guitar out, all this stuff. Oh,
yeah, yeah, you can do that.
Yeah. I like this part.
So, so why not? Dedicated to Ciara McNamee. Oh, yeah. Is there even a podcast?
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Sister Saroosh, are you the stalker?
Well, I have your number now, Paddy.
My last stalker in the world.
The last stalker on here. Okay, what do you want? A chorus and a verse or? Saints and sinners.
I don't know if you'll hear this because Zoom is kind of terrible for sound.
But I'll just cancel it out of the podcast if I can. I can actually change the
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sound so it works better. Will I do that? Yeah, go for it.
Microphone. I can just do it. I'll just change the sound really quickly.
It's all right. Oh, no. Do I have to leave to do it? Hang on.
No, here's preferences.
Sentence. Audio. If it doesn't work, you can just send it to me on WhatsApp. It's fine.
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I'll just. There. Here. There you go. It might be better. We have Patty Casey
singing Saints and Sinners.
Music.
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What? Oh my gosh. Zoom is terrible for sound, so...
It doesn't matter. That's absolutely brilliant. Everybody, that's Paddy Casey.
Good evening, everybody. So today I'm joined with Paddy Casey.
He is a singer, songwriter and recording artist from Dublin.
After receiving his first guitar at the age of 12, Paddy got his big break 12
years later when Sony offered Paddy a recording contract.
You're very welcome onto the show, Paddy. It's an honour to be interviewing somebody so talented.
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Hello, Ciara. How are you? I'm good, thank you. So Paddy, tell us,
whereabouts in Ireland are you from?
I'm i was i'm from dublin crumlin in the south side of dublin which is,
it's kind of the i don't know probably
the coolest part of dublin actually if you ask anyone yeah
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i lived in crumlin no i'm from crumlin who've we
got we've got phil in it we've got a couple of boxers
and a football player so we've got that's right mcgregor is
he from crumlin as well conor mcgregor supposedly from
crumlin i think he is i think he was there when he
was younger and then i think he moved somewhere else did he maybe he possibly
did i don't follow conor mcgregor no offense conor if you're listening to this
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but we'll try getting on the show actually yeah i think he was there he was
definitely i think he definitely went to crumlin boxing club ah okay yeah i
knew there was some i might be wrong about that.
I know I'm not a connoisseur I saw I watched the documentary actually thought
it was good but I don't know much else about him I haven't I know where he gets
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his hair cut that's about it the old county barber shopping he gets his hair well he used it,
yeah oh then me we're getting it mixed up so tell me this I'm originally from
Clondalkin I did live in Crumlin I lived in Windmill many many years ago when
I lived there there wasn't many opportunities opportunities for me growing up.
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I lived there for quite some time. Are you from there?
I'm originally from Clondalkin, but I moved from Clondalkin when I was...
No, no, no. I moved from Clondalkham when I was a kid. I was probably 14 and
then I moved to the country.
In the midst of that, I moved to Crumlin. So what was it like growing up there?
Was there a music family?
Was there people that inspired you there?
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No, we didn't. We didn't have a lot of music, but my dad used to sing when he
was drunk, you know, I don't know if that counts as a musical family.
I think my granddad sang some songs and they, my, my granny's family had a bunch of stuff.
They had like a lot of Irish stuff and, you know, some, some kind of 60s stuff.
And in our house, I think we had, we'd like three or four tapes.
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We had the Dubliners for Sundays.
We had, what else did we have? We had Krista Borg, I think was one of them.
And Supertramp, one of my brothers had a Supertramp album and yeah.
And then my brother got kind of came of age, my older brother next up for me.
And, and he started collecting music and he got a great collection together. I think so.
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I never heard of the last band that you're talking about, Supertrue.
Supertramp Supertramp you have heard Supertramp you just don't know you've heard
I love it you say things with conviction when all the world's asleep the questions
run so deep for such a simple man,
when I was young I thought that life was so magical you do know it oh I know
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that one I only know the rave version back in the rave days.
Yeah okay well that's interesting I
didn't know I know that that so so you had a brother that
that inspired you then was it your brother my brother beuno started collecting
music he was really good at collecting music he was kind of the oddball and
crumlin who had a really good music collection you know so so that i he might
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have you know in some way got me more into music because before that i think i was more into.
Hurling i was a hurler no i think
i would have never put you down
as a hurler very good my brothers would be
listening to this today and uh they love hurling so does
my father i i was never without a hurl in my hand for a while do you ever go
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and play hurling now no i think i get killed now if i gave it another go i haven't
done it see as soon as i got the guitar i kind of started playing all day every
day and then i kind of started going busking so So, yeah, that was the end of my hurling.
Is it really difficult? I mean, does it take a lot of confidence to get out
and start busking or is it less?
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Do you kind of care more or care less when you're busking because you're just
doing it for maybe a bit of pocket money? You're not afraid of being judged?
Well, no, to be honest, at the time I kind of left home as well.
I was done. I was done with living at home. So I went busking.
So I was doing it for a living. But I was staying.
My brother got a flat and I stayed with him for a while.
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And stuff and then i met i met this guy who was roughly because i was pretty young like i was like,
13 maybe 12 when i started i was pretty young you know i can't remember exactly what it was because
my brain stopped working a few years ago but but he he was the same age as me
this guy called colin that the two of us decided that well actually i had gone to galway for a while,
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and so he i came back from galway and we and i met him and i went there's this
magical place skull go away we should go and the two of us went and we lived
there for a couple of years or.
You know, so we just kind of traveled around from very young busking.
And you're right, Galway is very magical.
Every time I go. At the time it was great. It was amazing, you know.
It is. And they still welcome Irish singers and songwriters into their pubs.
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You always get good music in Galway.
I don't spend enough time there anymore, actually. I should go down for a few weeks or something.
Oh, are you touring then around Ireland at the moment or are you touring the
UK? I'm always gigging. I've just, I've been gigging since then, you know.
You don't stop. I haven't really stopped it. There's one thing that really,
I was just listening to your music before we got on and Saints and Sinners,
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okay, you probably have been asked it a thousand times,
but every time you sing it, I've watched you sing it on The Late Late Show,
I've watched you sing it on a different platform, I've probably watched about
five or six before we started tonight.
And I just feel every time you sing it, it's like the first time you're singing it.
How do you do that? I mean, you must have played that song thousands.
I think that might be your brain.
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Oh, it's just so beautiful, honestly, I've studied this before we got on,
it's just like it's your first time, you sing every word with your heart.
I mean, I think with music, you kind of, you don't play the songs you don't
really want to play, you know.
That was a rule I always set myself, busking as well.
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I find it weird like I know you look I'm not
giving out but I find it weird that kids are playing are busking
but they're using iPads because like if you don't
know the song and love the song why are you playing
it but that's just a weird thing that that was just a weird thing from back
then I suppose it's not a different generation the day I stopped liking singing
but I think with Saints and Sinners for me it's great because like I don't even
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really think about the song that much because it's just what happens when I
play it at gigs is amazing amazing anyway. It is.
Yeah, the whole room kind of lifts and it's amazing. So I like it doesn't even
matter. I could be singing the alphabet and I wouldn't give a shit.
It's it just feels good to sing it anyway because of what's going on in the room, you know.
And when you're not. No, I mean, I if I don't like a song, I'll stop playing
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it, you know. Yeah, well, that's understandable.
When you're not playing music, do you what songs do you play like to listen and inspire you?
What do you. Oh, God, that's a mad question.
You're famous now. You can't say that without upsetting half of Ireland.
Who do I love? Who do I love?
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Jesus. I used to be a big, massive Prince fan.
I think I still am, but not, you know, I don't listen to him as much as I used to.
I mean, I love the Velvet Underground. I still listen to quite a lot of old
stuff. There's a few new kids on the block that I love as well. I like your man.
Dermot. Tyler, the creator. He's kind of a rap guy. I don't know if you know him. He's really good.
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I'm so bad. I don't watch the news and I barely watch TV. In fact,
before we did the interview, I was like, I know your name.
I've known it for years. I know that you're a big part of Ireland.
But to rekindle the memory, I had to listen to a song. OK, Saints and Sinners.
Then I realized that I knew most of your songs that you sang.
And I just thought, wow, I can put a face to this.
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Yeah, well, look, that's fine. That's not you. I've never heard your music before. It's great.
No, no, no, no. It's not that. It's honestly, if you ask any of my friends,
even my father, he always goes crazy at me me because he'll say something
is on the news and I would never I don't watch it I remember when with
the thing with Maddie was on and the whole world were talking about it
I was cutting somebody's hair and he said oh it's so sad about that
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girl I said what girl he said are you serious you don't know
and you know so that's not you that's me I just
I don't watch tv but I'm absolutely obsessed with your
music I love it absolutely love it and it brought me back to
my childhood I used to listen to some of the songs Saints and
Sinners what is it about it's sadder
than it sounds and I don't really want to say it kind of started out
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as a slow song actually it was kind of and i
sent it to my record label they didn't really get it and it
was kind of slow and it wasn't slow but it wasn't the
way it wasn't as upbeat as it it's kind of like i mean it's just about it's
kind of it's just not to homeless in homeless and how easy it is to end up that's
what i got from the first line that's what i thought i mean i thought it was
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obvious but people i thought people down kind I kind of just thought it was
a love song or something.
I don't know what. But do you know why that is? And I always get this with musicians.
People listen to how it makes them feel. So whatever vibration they're on and
how the music is making them feel, they're not listening to the lyrics.
And this is, I am so obsessed with lyrics, words, and I understand things.
And I'll always, my husband calls me.
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He says, you have some sort of genius mindset. But he said, I don't know what you can use it for.
You can just recall lyrics no matter where or what they're from.
A song that I've heard 10 years ago, I'll be able to recall lyrics.
Because in my head, I'm playing the story, you know, of each verse.
So, yeah, anyway, I really love that song. And yeah, if I ever die,
I want you to sing it at my funeral.
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And anyone that's listening, Paddy has just agreed.
He's just given me the nod here. You can't see, but he said he will.
I'll be gone before you know.
Oh, don't say that. Too good a woman. Male and Irish. You don't have that long.
I love the fact that you still have your Irish accent. Women in Ireland always
live way longer than I think. Because they put the stress on the husbands.
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I think so, yeah. I think so. I think the old Ireland, yeah.
I think it's just because all the shit they have to deal with,
they get a few years afterwards just to relax.
I think that's kind of my take on it, you know. Well, men, I've had this discussion
with a neuroscientist last week.
I sound very, very well there. But he was explaining, but men think analytically
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and women think with emotion.
So when you're thinking of something, if you listen to one of my podcasts,
as he gets into detail about this.
But basically, men will take something that's real black and white.
They're like, if your partner turns around and says, oh, hug me or don't hug
me, it really means hug me.
And you've just listened to what she said, put it in the box, went and not hugged her.
And she's having her big crazy moments saying, well, why hasn't he hugged me?
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And goes to her friends and gives out stink about you. And you're oblivious
to what has actually happened.
Women are very, very unusual creatures. Very unusual.
So, Paddy. I'll get one someday. you'll get one someday oh if there's any singles
out there paddy casey's looking to find love.
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You probably get loads of hits so tell me this how has fame affected your life.
I mean i remember well like when when living was i mean now it's it's it's perfect
because no one gives a shit anymore so it's great like i don't mean that in
a bad way like but obviously when But there was times when like it was kind of,
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you know, you were kind of, it was hard to relax, I suppose, or whatever.
You didn't have any time. You didn't have any, you didn't have a day to yourself or whatever.
Do you know what I mean? Is it because your face was all over Irish TV?
Yeah, but also because, you know, I had, I was with a label and I kind of,
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they kept me working a lot.
Not in a bad way. I mean, I did the work I wanted to do. It wasn't there.
They weren't they weren't beating me with a stick like it was just
uh yeah I think it's
nicer now to do the gigs I want to do and just and the rest of the time work
on new stuff or do whatever you know so it's nicer to not be famous well you're
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still very much famous but what's happening is you're allowing yourself to work
and gig and do the things that you want to do independently independently.
I've a friend who's a fantastic photographer and he says the same thing,
you know, like if he brings out something, everybody knows his pictures,
you know, everyone wants it.
But then when he's not doing that creative work or that line,
he's not in the limelight anymore.
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And sometimes that's a nice breather. You know, he, I often watch the video
of Dua Lipa yesterday, right?
I'm not comparing, I know she's like, whatever, she's way bigger than whatever,
but I just think, I just saw this video of her and she came out on the street to do something.
And she was having the crack, like doing this little thing. But then she realized
that people had started noticing it was her or whatever.
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And then she just ran because, because that's what it's like.
Like she could literally just can't hang out in the street or whatever.
Do you know what I'm saying?
That's scary. Like that's a shit life if you ask me. Like it's kind of.
Yeah. People going through your bins is a shit life.
Oh my God. People go through people's bins? They do go through your bins.
People show up in your garden and hang around your windows sometimes.
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Not in a long time, but they used to, you know. oh
my god that's just that's a little bit too weird
it is i think it's kind of it's not
whatever i mean you're part of that thing but
i think i think when you get your
time back you're just like thank thank god
for that did you ever consider changing your
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identity and changing your hair color because i was never i was
never that i was to be honest i only had like a touch of
you know know whatever so it was to me it was like well that's
enough of that but the gigs
I love the gigs you know the gigs are amazing now like and
I think it's I think it's because yeah I
think everyone who wants to be there is there now you know well
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because of your okay I won't use I
don't I know when I get people on they don't like to use what I'm
saying oh the levels of success or fame so let's just.
Say your your career do you
not be gigging at pubs and women are just throwing themselves
to you because of what you
mean to irish people and for the music that you produce
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i think like like the people that come to my gigs are
older now so they're not really their husbands
are usually with them or whatever you know and even
if they're in the in the other other area i
don't know no and no it used to happen a little
bit but no i'm not i was never that famous i don't think you know and what about
crumlin you stalkers but no there's nothing wrong with a stalker listen we're
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in the 21st century it's perfectly normal to pick up instagram and go through
your ex's profile without feeling
like a stalker just for any of the listeners out there I don't know,
I'm joking yes do you ever gig in Crumlin anymore do you know what I've done
a few charity things in in Crumlin there isn't really a venue in Crumlin I've
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always wanted to play actually near where you grew up.
There's a place called the mission hall and i
won i did my first time i ever sang in front of people was
in the mission hall and i've always kind of wanted to do that again
mission hall is on cashel road which was kind of maybe
you didn't know maybe you were windmill right i was windmill but i mean it was
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a base i literally i was like you i i moved from quite a young age okay and
i mean well there's a place on cashel road called the mission hall and it's
like a community hall or whatever it It wasn't very big,
but I kind of always just for, you know, for nostalgia.
I'd love to do a gig there, you know, I don't even know if it's still there,
if it's still if it's still does stuff.
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I mean, I've seen the building is still there because I every time I go to town,
I drive to Crumlin just for the crack.
I just drive past my house just to see it again. You know, oh,
I tried to do that with my house in Clondalkin and I just every time I did it
three times since I moved.
And every time I went, I just cried. You'd bump into somebody and it'd be an
old neighbor that tell you another neighbor died. And the three times that I
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went, the three times I came out crying. So I decided not to do it anymore.
My life was a little bit more happier then when I went to Crumlin.
We used to have parties, different stage of my life.
So tell me this. How many albums have you made and how many songs have you written? Hmm.
I've written a lot of songs that I've never done anything with.
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But the last album I did was a double album that had 20, 24, 25 songs on it, I think.
Wow. How long does it take to make an album like that?
Well, that took a few years, but I didn't. It wasn't really that it took a few
years. It was just that COVID struck.
COVID knocked a few years onto it, you know. So in the end, I gave in.
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I just did it just because we didn't know if COVID was ever going to end, you know.
So i just must have been scary for your career i mean okay you could to be honest
it was kind of crap but uh it was also kind of nice to have an excuse not to do anything because.
You knew everyone else although actually it
turns out a lot of people went back to work and stuff but music musicians
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we couldn't go back to work but it turned
out everyone else was doing nothing so there was no one to be jealous of or
you know everyone else is in their houses so
like i did other stuff i wrote stuff and like you
know i tried to i wasn't very good with
at the online thing i don't think it suited me if i can't smell
people i don't you know doesn't i don't
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like that analogy if i can't smell people you
know what i mean like it's not a real gig if you feed and thrive off
people around you yeah so have
you ever got thing kind of yet was scary
at first but then once you know the
banks kind of made it so i didn't have to pay the mortgage for
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a while or whatever you know all that crack and so once you
figured out that you know it's going to be shit for a while but you have all
this free time and i got i wrote a musical i wrote stuff i'd never done in a
million years you know so stuff i'd never given myself time to do i suppose
you You know, I think lots of people did that.
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So you were going through heartache as well.
I just read briefly in one of the just before your album. Is it like Adele?
Did you get three or four albums out of the heartbreaker?
That's why it's the double album, because one side is like the breakup and the
other one isn't the breakup.
So I'm a huge Adele fan, but I often say I don't blame the husband's leaving
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because she's got three albums of one husband.
She's still talking about her breakup. up so I would
be devastated if my partner was singing about their ex
no I'm not that bad I mean it's kind
of hidden a little bit but you know the songs are there so oh
well they're deep I'm not calling anyone an asshole
you know I'm just gonna sing through
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my guitar and tell you how I feel and pretend it's nothing to do with you Mary
yeah exactly now who are you I never met you before for me so you can't get
sued I don't know I try not to put people in too much if I can help because
I like you I'd hate the idea of somebody writing something.
About me in a weird way. Yeah but then you
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have to also embrace the fact that it's where you are
where you were back then and when I was writing a
book I would speak and I'd be in a moment of
that chapter that it's probably a moment like yourself sometimes I
you know you wish you didn't have that chapter in your
life but you're writing it down because you want to be as honest as you can writing the book
then a few and you might have a little cry then a few days later you
might come back and just read over the chapter and you're in a different headspace
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because you're not reliving it but you're reading what you've just written
which is all truth and you think oh shit I want
to take that off or I don't want to put that in but I made myself
keep stuff in my book purposely because that that was
the truth that was my truth and I have to just I have to live it and and and
own it you know and people like yeah I mean there's a degree of that I mean
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the truth will set you free and all that you know probably gets to the first
I mean I do I would definitely yeah Yeah,
I'd rose tint a few things in my life, I think, you know. That's okay.
Only actually to the point where I've completely forgotten some shit that I actually did.
Sorry, I keep cursing, but. Okay, we're on Irish.
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Yeah, no, so I like, I would definitely keep some secrets to my grave.
Really? I'd say so, yeah. I'm definitely not.
I'm kind of Like I'm open But I've also got Some mad stuff In my head That I
just Will never tell anyone Oh my god We're gonna have to Get Paddy drunk Because
you know what We all do I think you know And it's only something You start to
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realise As you get older Like you know You think you're You think you're like
mad And if anyone ever Finds out the truth When you're a kid.
They'll lock you up, you know, in some ways. No, it's not. I was listening to
one of your lyrics there. I don't even know what song it was.
And one of the lyrics, what was it saying?
Oh my God. But just like what you said there, you're like, you think you're
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weird, but the world is weirder.
Or did you know it's the world is weirder? I can't remember what it was,
but I literally just listened. I don't know which one you're getting at there.
It was like, did you know how weird the world was? But you think,
look, if you don't know your own song here, Paddy. I think I know what you're getting at.
Yeah, well, anyway, I've listened to it and that's exactly what came. into my
head of you just sitting there looking at the world and looking at
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someone and thinking well everybody thinks
that about you don't know that when you're young you kind of you know when
you're young you want to be like everyone else paddy you want to be a sheep you
want to fit in well i also taught
i also kind of you're on of it you're in
a headspace where you're like if anyone ever kind of
knew that the mad thoughts in your head
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or whatever you know you'd be like like yeah but you are not
your thoughts isn't that what no but this is just the this is
just the thing a mistake you make when you're a kid i think you know
well it is absolutely and particularly i'm very spiritual and if you're i won't
go into it because we're on radio but i'll tell you another time but if you
never mind i'm not even going to say what i was going to say but yes i understand
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what you're saying but no everyone goes to that stage and like i said people want to fit into,
to a box when they're growing up it's when you get older that you just want
to stand out and the end the other day actually what was that what was i watching
what was i reading oh no i'm reading it it's it's actually a comic book and
it's called i love monsters.
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It's so creative it's a little girl yeah
it's just a little girl and she imagines she's a
monster and and then she's like
yeah she explains the word monster actually
i can't do you know what i should go and get the book and come back i
can't remember it's too good a quote to mess it up but there's
this comic called i love monsters and it's kind of this
(23:42):
little girl's kind of story or whatever do me a favor when we
finished here tonight send me the quote because it
sounds sounds absolutely crazy you can
put it on the podcast i'll put it on the podcast had
his famous quote it was good it
was definitely a good one for like i was like i wish i was that clever when
i was that age or whatever you know so sometimes it's just thinking out of the
(24:04):
box and and using your own imagination but you know as as my friend would say
creativity has been pushed out of people from when they're young and when they're
in schools you know because they know how powerful It is.
I went on a spiritual retreat years ago and I took ayahuasca,
which is a spiritual plant medicine.
And when I tell you, it opens up every sense that you didn't even know you had.
(24:29):
You will never look at the world the same again.
It's mind blowing.
Was there ever a time, Paddy, that you felt you wanted to come away from music
and start a different career?
Not even slightly, no. know oh that's beautiful i i don't i don't see the point
you know like it's one of the best jobs in the world to have you know absolutely
(24:51):
i mean it takes a long time to kind of you have to put a lot of hours in and
whatever but it's it's a great job there's no you know what's the biggest challenge.
It's a bit bit trickier now for people like i'm glad i'm not starting now like
it's really hard for kids to make a living out of it why is that i thought it
was easier for them now because they They have all their social media.
(25:14):
They can get this. People are giving them donations on the internet or something.
I don't know how they're making a living, you know.
Spotify? Some people do well busking. No, God, Spotify is the biggest ripoff
that ever happened. Are you serious?
Spotify is the worst thing that ever happened to music, ever.
Except it's spread music around, you know. I mean, you get to listen to...
(25:34):
What? At a discount. It's spreading it around at a discount.
Oh, no, nobody makes money off Spotify. The only people who make money off Spotify are big labels.
And a few hand-picked artists.
Wow. Nobody makes money off it. Spotify has killed the way people used to make money anyway.
(25:56):
What happens if you just have a cold or you are sick and you just can't perform?
Like I'm smothered with a cold, which is probably why you're wondering why I
have a scarf on. I'm absolutely smothered with a cold the last three, four days.
But if you were to get sick, what do you do? or did you just tell your thousands
of fans? It happened a few times. I mean...
I think I've missed like four gigs, five gigs in my life from,
(26:19):
from being from just no voice.
Like you're sick is fine. No voice. You can't, there's nothing you can do about
it. You know? So, do you know this podcast? Sure.
You know, a lot of people, a lot of people in the music business like would.
Actually have a backing tape just in case they lose their voice.
(26:39):
Wow. Because to actually the, the,
the cost of cancelling the gig is way
worse than you know oh really oh
i suppose yeah and then you have a lot of big gigs i'm
talking about like crow park or whatever you know they'll have
a backing tape rather than than cancel the gig so there you go oh we'd have
(27:00):
to get a hologram in none of the star i mean personally it doesn't happen very
very often but it has happened a few times where you just can't sing and there's
nothing you can do about it you know look Look at Lewis Capaldi.
He made me cry when he was singing and his voice went because of his Tourette's.
My husband has Tourette's syndrome and I didn't even know Lewis Capaldi had it.
(27:23):
And when I heard him sing and seeing humanity, oh, wow, I love that clip.
Paddy, you know the way this is a new podcast and you know the way we both lived
in Crumlin and you're Irish and I'm Irish and I'm a nice person and you're a
nice person. And you know the way Saints and Sinners is a song that,
(27:43):
you know, off by heart without looking at the lyrics.
Can I have a little bit so I can always say Paddy Casey sang to me on... Can I do it with a guitar?
Yeah, you can do it with a guitar. There's that 6.32 on our timer.
So if it cuts off, it's worth it. Just a little bit.
6.32, is that what you have left? Yeah, you have 6.14 now. It's just the platform.
(28:08):
Can you edit all this nonsense out?
Yeah, I can edit all this if I need to edit it, but I think your voice is beautiful,
so I don't think you'll need to edit it.
No, I mean this, getting the guitar out, all this stuff. Oh,
yeah, yeah, you can do that.
Yeah. I like this part.
So, so why not? Dedicated to Ciara McNamee. Oh, yeah. Is there even a podcast?
(28:32):
Sister Saroosh, are you the stalker?
Well, I have your number now, Paddy.
My last stalker in the world.
The last stalker on here. Okay, what do you want? A chorus and a verse or? Saints and sinners.
I don't know if you'll hear this because Zoom is kind of terrible for sound.
But I'll just cancel it out of the podcast if I can. I can actually change the
(28:53):
sound so it works better. Will I do that? Yeah, go for it.
Microphone. I can just do it. I'll just change the sound really quickly.
It's all right. Oh, no. Do I have to leave to do it? Hang on.
No, here's preferences.
Sentence. Audio. If it doesn't work, you can just send it to me on WhatsApp. It's fine.
(29:14):
I'll just. There. Here. There you go. It might be better. We have Patty Casey
singing Saints and Sinners.
Music.
(30:55):
What? Oh my gosh. Zoom is terrible for sound, so...
It doesn't matter. That's absolutely brilliant. Everybody, that's Paddy Casey.
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