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Good evening, everybody. Today, I have a very special guest with me. I have David Cassidy.
He is a solo singer-songwriter from Navan County, Mead, and he's in Ireland. David, how are you?
Hi, Ciara. Thanks for having me on. Thank you for coming on and giving your time.
David, you have recorded your first ever single, Christmas 2023.
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What was the name of the single? single?
Yeah, so my first debut single was a Christmas song, like you said, called One Christmas.
Yeah, just released in November last year for Christmas.
Wow, that's impressive. And just how old are you, David? How old am I? Forty two.
Forty two. You start to forget the older you get. You do start to forget.
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Yeah, I had to come back to the early 80s. Yeah, I'm 42.
Okay, so just talk a bit, Trudas. I know you're relatively new to the music world.
I found your story very very inspiring. We were just speaking about it there when it was off record.
So just share with the listeners how you started.
You're in Navan, you're doing gigs and talk us through it.
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Sure. So I guess my first experience.
Dabble i guess with music probably as a kid so probably
six seven years old i started playing piano
i went to lessons went through the grades in hindsight
i probably would have said it wasn't most exciting right at the time was kind
of classical music going through the royal irish academy exams but i do remember
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getting a slap on the wrist from time to time when i was trying to bling up
some of the classical music and change up the tempo or the rhythm to i don't
know maybe maybe put a different groove to them.
So there was probably something creative in there, maybe, or disobedient or
both, perhaps, back at the time.
So, yeah, I guess when I got into my early teens, I suppose other things took
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over and, you know, life was busy and football and swimming and other things that I was involved in.
And I sort of fell away then from, once I sort of went through the grades,
I fell away from the piano,
Kieran, and never really thought a whole lot more
about it or never expected really to to
do anything with it and yeah fast
forward maybe just over six years ago when
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my eldest daughter turned seven she had at
the time growing up it was actually taylor swift that she had seen on stage
with that i think it was a pink guitar yeah dad i want to learn how to play
guitar she turned seven a couple of months afterwards words went over to our
local music store the sound shop and draw it and picked her up a.
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Three-quarter size guitar nice yarner guitar i brought
it home i pulled up a little tutorial on youtube to tune
her up to learn how to tune her up for her to be honest from that moment forward
i was hooked i was like i couldn't put it down i was playing i was going from
tutorial to tutorial on youtube and trying to figure out the basic chords and
yeah i was just i was just hooked How long did it take? That's where it started.
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How long did it take? I love that story because, yeah, that hits home.
How long did it take before you kind of were able to play some music?
Did you know that you had a musical voice back then?
No, probably not. Probably, no, actually, definitely not.
Because if anyone asked me to sing something, I would have made any excuse or,
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you know, just ignore them maybe, right? You have an extraordinary voice.
I just can't believe it's only kind of coming out now in the last few years.
So when you were younger, did you not sing?
I sang, I sang, I sang in the school choir, if that counts.
A lot of good artists start off in the choir, David. Yeah, that was probably before my voice broke.
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But no, I honestly wouldn't have, I wouldn't have thought I had anything worth
listening to, to be honest.
But for me, to be honest, it was mainly for me, Ciara, that I found it a great release.
East you know like i said a busy road come
in an evening from work busy day at work and look
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forward actually just picking up the guitar terrible and
all as i was drumming a few chords and and probably in
my own head thinking it sounded something like the original song
but i found it it was great it was almost like meditation it
was it was medicine for me it was a great way to
relax to kick back to unwind and that's really
what i never had any visions or
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aspirations of of doing anything outwardly with
us or doing anything publicly with us yeah just
kind of went from there and then probably just friends and
family you know typical back of
the house or a night out or something well you can play the guitar and
yeah no I can't yeah go on play this
and yeah and do you ever suffer from
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um from I suppose when you
first start off singing in front front of anyone or even playing an instrument
you you kind of you're not comfortable because you're so used to playing on
your own so when that time came to play I mean you told me the first time you
went on stage was 400 and something people yeah so that that's quite recent
yeah so that was only so I released.
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I released my debut single back in November. And there's probably a little bit
of a story behind that as well, where that came from.
And maybe jumping back to that, it was a COVID story, actually.
Back in 2021, Ciara, so the job I had at the time, quite a busy role.
And you remember there were travel restrictions. I don't think we could even
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travel five kilometers, never mind go abroad for some holidays.
So I had a lot of annual leave accrued. it was
October and I was going to have to use some of
the leave or lose it effectively so I
booked a week off in October of 2021 couldn't go
anywhere and around that time I had joined a group online on Facebook actually
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it was a private group called The Backline that was formed by a few musicians
down in in Carlow actually but it was a nationwide group and they'd set a weekly
challenge So the team might be songs about weather.
So you uploaded yourself singing a song about the weather. So the great thing
about that was, first of all, it was a closed group. It was a private group.
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Secondly, there were a lot of novice musicians.
And there was no judgment. It wasn't a competition. So anybody who entered into
a weekly challenge, there was a draw and there was a prize at the end of the
week. But it wasn't a draw based on ability.
It was just, did you enter? Yes, you're in the draw.
So I thought it was great.
Sort of group or forum to start
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just kind of being comfortable being uncomfortable if
that makes sense so in october then
they announced they were going to do a christmas original christmas song challenge
so i had taken the week off and i said you know what i'm just going to box myself
into a room and you know come up i just had a crazy notion of i'm going to have
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a stab at writing a Christmas song for this challenge.
And that's where the Christmas song came out of. I kind of recorded it into
my phone and submitted it. There were a couple of really good entries.
I think the winning one hit the charts over the Christmas period that year.
And then the song gathered dust until last year.
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And producer Mark Cahill over here in Slane Studios, the Ivory Studios.
He's on social as well. You can pick him up there, but a lot of the top artists
in the country have worked with Mark and have seen a lot of his work online.
And, you know, he actually put out a couple of posts to say,
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you know are you someone who's you know not
confident in your own ability i'm paraphrasing here right
but who you know maybe has the bones of
a structure of a song or you know don't really
know what what to do with it next or how to bring it to the next level
so on the back of that i said you know what i'm
not gonna live in regret i'm gonna give him a shout and uh
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i sent it across to him and he jumped on it he said look let's let's catch up
on this one he said and he had a A lot of his kind of thought process went off
and it sort of mirrored what in my head I thought was probably a fantasy in
terms of what could be done with it or how I was hearing it when I was just,
you know, casually strumming my chords that I that I wrote the song to.
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So I went from there and released the song and we actually were in the studio
last June for the Christmas to record my vocals on the Christmas song.
And actually Mark had a fantastic idea to include a kids choir.
So we we drafted in
the services of a local stage school elite stage
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school run by a local girl and she got
a group together and we had them
singing vocals in the background as well so they're in the they're in
the release and that was that was august actually
we got the kids back in before they went back to school so we were in studio with
our christmas jumpers and our christmas trees
out for for the christmas release so that was last year released
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november and yeah it was like
again i just i was when when mark sent over the first demo track like that i
just kind of got the goosebumps when i heard it back you know something you'd
created and written from scratch does it sound so much more powerful when you
hear it from a studio yeah it's it's all the yeah.
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Absolutely and actually you go back to you know.
Did I think I had a good voice? It was probably the first time I heard my voice
back, probably with the quality of the sound.
And I said it to Maris, I never actually heard that tone in my voice before.
I'd probably be very critical of myself in general in all walks of life.
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So it was probably the first time that I heard that kind of depth of tone in my voice.
And yeah, look, it was fantastic. It was like, yeah, it was a dream come true.
Feelings and do you have do you have
just one child or do you have a bigger family
yeah i've two i've two daughters i
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have an older stepson as well and how did they feel when
they seen their father going out
and having this single i mean it must
have been surreal for those as well oh
dad you're so embarrassing that's what it is stop were
they they probably don't like country music do they like country music yeah
yeah they do actually yeah yeah that's good taste but actually my youngest my
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youngest daughter shodine she's actually in the she was in the production as
well she's in the elite stage school so she she features in the in the song the video and vocal so,
that's beautiful good good good to have her involved they say you should always
if you're going to do a song to try bring out a christmas song because you can
release it re-release it it every year.
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My friend told me that years ago, and I suppose it does make sense.
So who inspires you, you know, and who inspired you growing up?
Who was the people that you would listen to?
Yeah, I guess probably my earliest memories, Kira, would be sort of my mom with
her vinyls on when we'd be knocking around the house, really.
And like even to this day, I know my Spotify rap at the end of each year kind
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of tells me that I have a very eclectic selection of music.
I listen to absolutely everything, depends on what humor or what time of day or time of the week it is.
So I can go back to then, even in the house growing up, Ciara would have been
a broad blend of types of music from, yeah, probably some American country,
the likes of Glen Campbell and Phil Coulter and Simon and Garfunkel.
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They're kind of just three off the top of my head that I can remember playing in the house at home.
And my mom was a singer as well.
So just kind of part-time, you know, in our late teens and into early college
years, she'd done a bit of singing as well.
So what type of singing did she do a bit
of everything sort of on the out in the folk scene and singing
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with a band so going around all the locals
well this is this is i i've just said to david before we start recording that
i feel that david's going to be very big in the music industry i mean you're
kind of doing everything you've skipped about 10 steps and you you know your
first stage was 400 something you know you're definitely going flying ahead
of yourself you're You're talking about Phil Coulter.
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This is your first podcast talking about music.
And Phil Coulter is somebody that I hope to have on this week on my podcast.
I've been putting the feelers out. So it's really interesting that you say that.
And do you still gig around Navan?
Yeah. So it's something I really...
If I go back a year ago and a little over... Less than a year ago,
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should I say, when I recorded the Christmas single, I still probably felt...
Inside that you know this was just something i had to do and i
kind of ticked that box and that'd be that sort of done
and i'd move on and go back to the normal
things i was always doing but to be honest
it was probably the opposite it just really peeled the corner
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of a page that i wanted to explore further
and yeah i it's it's it's
it's i remember years ago watching a
doc unrelated topic but I draw parallels to it in that there was a topic on
TV about a sculptor and he talked about you know he'd done carvings out of various
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materials but he described his art as being you know he saw the figure of.
Stuck in the object in the material and
he was just carving it releasing it from existence if
you like or from that captivity in the material when i
think of for me writing a song it's almost
like the song is in there already i just need to voice this
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or get it out of me so i don't feel like i'm
i don't feel like i
created the song if that makes sense i felt like it was in there and
i've some more material in my back pocket as well i'm actually in the studio
for a first conversation back with mark and ivory studios next thursday would
you believe so stay tuned for what what what comes out of that but yeah look
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it's only the start i mean it's really it's really,
stoked something in me that uh that i just need to well last year wasn't enough
basically and Absolutely.
You're going to have this burning desire inside you to express your creativity.
What out of interest is your profession? What do you do when you're not doing music?
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Yeah, so my original qualification, I'm a manufacturing engineer.
By qualification, I've spent most of my career working in the life sciences
sector, Kira, in various leadership roles.
And I guess most recently, I've kind of went from the very structured engineering
type manufacturing roles more
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into change management and operational excellence, that type of thing.
Leadership, people, change, change management, if you like.
And actually, just last October, I graduated from DCU with a master's degree
in organization psychology.
So that kind of gives me another avenue to explore as well so that's very impressive
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wow david you've got a lot going on for you i don't see that keeps me out of
keeps me out of trouble okay well the next time i have you on the podcast i
want you to promise me that you're going to sing for us.
Okay yes i will of course so i
david cassidy promises kira that
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he's going to play on the next podcast which
will be very soon i do okay david
listen thank you so much and i'm wishing you every bit of success
on your journey and i will i'll put
a link to your new single if anybody anybody wants to
get you in contact with you what is the best way to
for them to contact you yeah so i'm on
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i'm on instagram i'm on facebook and as
i have more to share you'll get my content or
anything i share will be available there you can contact me directly my email
is dcassid at gmail.com so d c a s s i d without the y at gmail.com that's perfect
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listen thank you so much Have a lovely day. Ciara, thanks so much for having me.