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September 8, 2025 53 mins

Eric Kanefsky took an 85% pay cut to leave BigLaw for the U.S. Attorney's Office, then borrowed $50,000 to start his own firm—transforming from government lawyer into managing partner of a 25-attorney white collar defense powerhouse.

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman reconnects with his former college roommate to explore Kanefsky's unconventional reverse path from Temple Law through prestigious firms, federal prosecution, and running New Jersey's Consumer Affairs division with 600 employees. When he and his partner found themselves dreading their planned BigLaw returns, they made a spontaneous coffee shop decision that reshaped their careers entirely.

Kanefsky opens up about white collar defense reality: nine out of ten clients genuinely believe they've done nothing wrong, creating heavy emotional tolls when representing people in their worst moments. He discusses how managing Type 1 diabetes since age 23 forced him to prioritize health routines that enhanced both physical stamina and intellectual acuity throughout his demanding career.

The episode explores unique challenges of scaling law firms where personal relationships and client trust can't be delegated. Kanefsky candidly addresses his time management struggles and "Pavlovian" addiction to constant action that makes vacation nearly impossible. He shares insights from early desperate months watching Gary Vaynerchuk videos for motivation while sitting in an empty office, wondering if he'd made a catastrophic mistake.

Beyond business mechanics, this conversation tackles philosophical questions defining legal careers: maintaining empathy without burnout, when professional success becomes prison, and why lawyers work into their seventies unlike finance professionals. His leadership reflections from managing state employees in his mid-thirties offer lessons for attorneys considering the practitioner-to-owner leap in today's AI-transforming landscape.

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