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If authoritarian hurts the body and authoritative hurts the mind,
what's left?
Teaching,
not controlling,
not manipulating,
teaching.
This is what Thomas discovered in 40 years working with thousands of kids.
This is what transformed my four children with severe behavioral challenges,
and this is how we help every single parent who comes to us from gentle,
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attached,
peaceful,
conscious parenting transform the defiant behavior into cooperation.
And today we're going to be talking about how to raise cooperative
children without control.
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Transforming families,
one out-of-control child at a time.
We are Bonnie and Thomas Leota.
Yes,
and this is a three-part series on why we're creating aggressive children.
And today's the fun part.
Today is,
well,
if authoritative doesn't work and authoritarian doesn't work,
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well,
what the heck do we do?
The old paradigm is children misbehave because they're defiant,
broken,
or just being oppositional.
The new paradigm is children misbehave because they lack skills.
Now,
yesterday,
Tom,
I was talking to a mom,
and I'm like,
imagine you wake up in the morning and your kids are cooperating,
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doing what they're supposed to be doing without even being asked.
How does that feel?
And she was like,
um...
Ribbit.
I can't even imagine that.
I have no idea how that would feel,
and that was really sad to me.
So true.
Because,
Bonnie,
if we were born in a cave,
nobody talked about a cave,
and nobody ever left the cave,
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how would we even know we're in a cave?
Right,
and how could you describe to them what a boat was?
They didn't even see the water.
So that's what we're talking about here.
We're talking about we have been conditioned to believe defiance requires control.
The difference that we want to talk about is skill deficits require teaching,
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not control.
So,
Thomas,
can you talk about that?
You've worked with thousands of kids in your after-school program.
You coach 140 kids through Nintendo.
Like,
how lucky are we that you were able to do that?
Because that job doesn't even exist anymore.
So what do you have to share about what we're talking about here?
You see,
if everything can come down to just a missing piece,
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a missing life skill,
it's almost like cooking.
You're missing a certain ingredient.
There's a certain process that you follow,
and everything falls into place.
So all this misbehavior is really...
Well,
put it this way,
Bonnie.
If you could look at your child through these new lenses like you saw before,
and all they were doing is saying,
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Mom,
could I be like you?
Dad,
could I do what you do?
Could I be just like you and do what you do one day all by myself without you?
There's not a moment or a person that I've ever asked that would go,
Damn,
kids.
Don't know what they're doing.
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Spoiled,
rotten.
It would never exist.
Right.
And all it comes down to is a missing life skill.
Knowing our role as a parent is to prepare them versus postpone what
is called the inevitable.
No,
I love that so much because when kids are,
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quote,
misbehaving,
unquote,
we come in and we try to punish that type of behavior.
But the first thing that we do with our clients when they join our
program is we have them play detective for four weeks.
Oh,
the kid screams to get what he wants.
Okay,
we write that in a journal.
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Oh,
my kid likes to pinch me,
punch me.
My kid likes leaving his socks on the floor.
Because when we're heading down a track,
a train track at 100 miles an hour in the negative direction,
and you've been doing this for 5,
6,
7,
14 years,
is there any way to stop the train of negativity instantaneously?
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The short answer is no.
And the bigger picture is we're talking more than one generation here,
Bonnie.
Right,
right,
right,
right,
right.
So however old the child is,
however old you are,
right?
It goes back,
right?
It's like almost in our DNA.
A child does something wrong; well,
we got to do something wrong back.
That is just a belief that we have been programmed to believe.
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But a lie doesn't become the truth just because the masses of the
people believe it to be so.
What we're talking about here is when you know the symptoms of all
child behavior disorders are just that (05:11):
symptoms.
Well,
what are they doing?
What's actually happening?
Walk us through.
Write it all down on paper.
Now play the game of opposites.
What life skills are missing here?
And what are the four building blocks that you begin with when it
comes to life skills training?
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The first one is obviously just do something.
Get involved.
It's called play,
just when they're doing something.
The four basic fundamental life skills are the first one called self-control.
I am in control of my body and my actions.
Two,
responsibility.
I am responsible for my actions and my belongings.
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Three,
self-discipline.
I do what I'm supposed to do by being asked only once.
And this is an internal voice,
not external.
Focus,
I keep my attention on a task at hand because at the end of the day,
energy flows where attention goes.
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And that's the core for Bonnie.
Yeah.
So when kids are,
I don't know,
throwing a temper tantrum,
having a meltdown,
being disrespectful,
backtalking,
we look at that as something that needs to be punished when we
should be looking at it as my child needs life skills.
So what does this look like in real life?
We had a 17-year-old move in here a few years ago because he was our
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youngest son's friend,
and his dad died,
and there was nobody that would take him.
In fact,
the whole family showed up,
took everything out of the apartment that was valuable (06:50):
the bank cards,
the jewelry,
the car keys,
and all these things,
but they left the kid.
And so I looked at Tom and I was like,
well,
we're creating champions for life.
I feel like God has just dropped this little being in our lives,
and I kind of feel responsible to bring him in.
Well,
we had this knowledge where the kid needed life skills.
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He needed to learn work ethic.
He needed to learn how to sleep without pills.
This kid had been on pills since he was six years old,
diagnosed with severe oppositional defiant disorder.
So he was kind of put into this box his entire life.
Well,
Tom set up the environment and,
in order to have the internet turned on,
his responsibility was to clean the bathroom.
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And so he was still sleeping one morning.
Tom and I were going to the gym,
and Tom goes in the bathroom,
and he's like,
oh,
everything's great.
As soon as the mirror looks as good as the floor and the rest of the bathroom,
we'll turn the internet on.
Well,
Tyler's first response was to text Tom,
going, " F you,
man,
seriously,
blah,
blah,
blah." Like he'd throw things,
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he stomped up the stairs,
he did all this stuff.
And I'm like,
does he not even realize that we don't owe him a bedroom?
Like it's a real privilege for him to be here.
But I had the awareness because the training with Thomas; maybe he
doesn't know what respect looks like.
So I came home,
and instead of yelling at him and kicking him out of my house,
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I handed him the phone,
and I said,
we're going to do a little training.
The whole scenario took maybe 10 minutes.
And so I'm like,
this is what it looks like to say,
I don't want internet today.
And I did the whole 'F you,
Tom and stomped up the stairs and cried and whined and cried and
complained the whole time.
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And then we came back downstairs,
and I said,
this is what it looks like to have half a day of internet and kind
of showed him the average.
And then this is what it looks like to have all of the internet all day long.
Yes,
sir,
I'll get right on it.
What are the five checkpoints?
The bathtub,
the mirror,
the floor,
the toilet,
the garbage.
Good job.
Like it was just like this beautiful role-play scenario that was
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life-changing for us having him here and for Tyler for his entire life.
So true.
And basically,
for the parents out there to go,
what makes us so uniquely different that everybody else is doing backwards?
It goes back to the three sacred games (09:16):
Monkey see,
monkey do; follow the leader; and Simon says.
It's really this simple (09:22):
Monkey follow Simon so Simon can follow monkey.
And,
more importantly,
is everybody would see this as misbehavior.
And this is really a cry.
And so when you play the sacred game called 'name that cry,' it
really means all this misbehavior is I'm ready to learn.
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And that's what is the game changer.
You showed him,
not teach,
you showed him so he could follow your lead.
And then he was in control to pick some,
none,
or all.
Love it.
And that's empowerment that parenting is what we're bringing to the
table that's missing from everywhere else.
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Well,
yeah.
And so here's a kid who was on,
like,
he was on our city's most top 50 most wanted list.
Top 50,
like,
most scary kid in the city list.
And we were able to help him turn his life around in five months.
He left when he was 18,
got a job,
and he's been on his own ever since.
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And he still talks to Zach about his experience here,
and he still comes for Christmas dinner.
Our results prove 90% plus complete behavioral transformation.
And I say 90% because sometimes when parents come and they study the
creating champions for life principles,
they were never taught life skills.
They don't know how to take responsibility,
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and they don't do the work.
But if you are willing to do the work,
are willing to learn a new way,
we guarantee the results at a hundred percent success rate.
78% of our clients eliminate psychiatric medication altogether.
In fact,
Tyler was here for 30 days,
and he's like,
I'm going to throw these pills away.
And within three days,
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he was sleeping on his own for the first time in his entire life.
Just pause for half a sec,
with your permission,
Bonnie.
Sure.
What would it feel like from six to 17?
That's 11 years.
For the first time in his life,
you know what?
I can sleep without this crutch,
without this label,
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without this good story.
That's freedom.
Yeah.
Like we didn't have to restrain him.
We didn't have to put him in a timeout.
We didn't have to take his phone away because he didn't clean the bathroom.
So an average 28 days to find a major improvement.
These are the common statistics that happen.
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It's usually 21,
but there's this magical thing.
On average,
every single child,
parent that works in this methodology will have a major breakthrough of improvement of,
oh my gosh,
look what I can do for the very first time.
Zero restraints,
zero timeouts,
and zero control.
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Oh,
what would your life be if you could actually experience that?
You'd be like in a whole new world.
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Children,
all children want to succeed when they're not being controlled.
Our two-year-old granddaughter loves showing off.
I do it myself.
I mean,
God forbid you help her in the bathtub; like she wants to do everything herself.
Of course,
I'm there.
I'm there for safety,
but I let her get into that bathtub by herself,
and she can do it.
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They can do it.
Aggression disappears when we stop creating it,
when we stop trying to control them.
Are you getting this yet?
If you missed the first two episodes,
go back and check out our last two episodes because this is a
three-part series about how we create aggressive child behavior and
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the things that we can do to stop it.
You know,
the 14-year-old girl who killed Amy Morrell; she was never taught
the skills she needed.
Nobody sat and showed her what respect looked like and what she would
actually earn for herself if she was disrespectful.
And then they restrained her when she acted like somebody who was
never taught the life skill.
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Now,
here's the last thought to just plant for you that's listening here today.
Yeah,
let me ask you straight up,
Bonnie.
Is jail a right or a privilege?
It's definitely a privilege.
So instead of having it as a threat,
show them what they could do to earn it.
And this is the razor's edge difference of creating champions for
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life that we can go toe-to-toe with any parenting methodology.
It's a right.
And when you can earn the right to get in there,
now it's counterintuitive,
but you had to do what was required to get in there on purpose
rather than ignorance or not knowing better.
And when every time you give the truth to the offspring,
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guess what they always pick?
Is it life or death internally?
From what I have witnessed,
hundreds and hundreds of children,
my own children,
they choose life every single time.
Every single time.
So control is an illusion.
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The ultimate goal of control is to have no control at all.
Right.
It's called free will.
We were given free will.
It's time we incorporate free will into our parenting,
into our schools,
into even our detention centers and our therapeutic centers.
So here's the vision.
When I read Think and Grow Rich at the age of 21,
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I was one of these kids.
I was put into a box.
I was sent to therapy.
And so when I read that book,
I had a dream right away,
running over to my dad's house and I'm like,
Dad,
I don't know how.
I know I've never finished anything in my life,
but I'm going to find a way to empower all kids to see their
greatness by the age of 12.
And even saying that,
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it's never too late.
If you have a 15-year-old,
there's always,
always time.
If you're 52 years old hearing this,
it's not too late for you to see your greatness.
The vision is to ban all restraints on a global scale,
to remove medication as a first resort for the behavior of children,
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to say no to destroying children's minds in the name of good parenting.
We are calling it time for change.
The old ways,
authoritarian and authoritative,
have failed.
Let's teach our children instead of controlling them.
Let's be their partner,
their trusted advisor,
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their guide,
their leader in life,
instead of continuing to dominate them because they're smaller than us.
Let's raise champions,
not compliant robots.
Now,
I want to ask you to share this episode with every parent you know.
Let's wake up the world; leave a review,
a comment.
Which parenting approach have you tried?
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What's failed?
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So until we meet again,
here's to our parenting success.
Cheers,
everyone.
Bye for now.
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co-founder of Creating Champions for Life,
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