August 13, 2025 • 42 mins
In this deeply moving episode of the Legacy Bible Podcast, we revisit a timeless message preached by Rev. Chuck Rains on April 7, 1991. Rooted in Song of Solomon 8:5 and Colossians 1, Rev. Rains reflects on the spiritual journey of the believer through trials, separation, and ultimately, restoration.
Using the imagery of the bride in Song of Solomon, he paints a vivid picture of a soul learning to lean fully on the Lord—even in seasons of hardship and wandering. The message reminds us that God’s will is not just a direction to be discovered but a person to be followed. When we truly know Him, we know where He is—and where we ought to be.
This episode is a challenge and an encouragement for every listener: to surrender fully, walk in wisdom and spiritual understanding, and discover the peace that comes from leaning entirely on Jesus.
📝 Show Notes:
- Scripture References:
- Song of Solomon 8:5 – “Who is this coming up from the wilderness, leaning on her beloved?”
- Colossians 1:9–11 – Paul's prayer for believers to be filled with the knowledge of God’s will
- Exodus 13–14 – Israel’s wandering as a result of disobedience
- Themes Covered:
- Intimacy with Christ as the Bridegroom
- The pain of disobedience and wandering
- God's revealed will and personal direction
- Spiritual wisdom, understanding, and surrender
- The transforming power of leaning on Christ in trials
- Key Quotes:
- “She knew where He was because she knew what He was.”
- “When you lean on Him, you come out of the wilderness.”
- “God’s will is not only the best path forward—it’s the only path to joy.”
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Hello friends and welcome or welcome back.
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This is the legacy Bible podcast.
And if you're new here, you're probably thinking, what is the legacy Bible podcast?
Well, we have a podcast that plays legacy audio from the church tape archives and the
church is the fellowship Bible Church of Joliet Illinois.
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And they had a massive tape collection of their back services way back into the
80s.
So I thought I'd make them into a podcast and here we go.
You haven't.
We're having one from April 7, 1991.
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It's titled leaning through the wilderness and starts off with the song of Solomon and
goes into colossians.
And yes, there ain't so we bring in a great message for that.
So let's get right into it.
And I'll talk to you on the other side of it.
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There is a wonderful, wonderful verse in the song of Solomon chapter 8.
That is for me the culmination of the whole book of the song of Solomon.
I've referred to it often before, but I want to go back to it this morning.
Chapter 8 verse 5, who is this?
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Who is this that cometh up from the wilderness leaning upon her beloved?
Well who it is is the bride, the one that we see all the way through the song of Solomon
is the bride, the sweetheart, the wife of the Lord, the one he has chosen for himself.
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The song of Solomon tells us about a bride though that is not perfect on the outside.
You know chapter 1, she looks at herself and she sees herself as deeply suntanned because
she's been out in the world and tending the vineyards out in the world.
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It's really a way of saying she hasn't been with him because she says my own vineyard,
have I not kept.
So the book really starts there.
There's just things wrong with her.
She's out where she doesn't belong.
She should be with her.
Beloved.
And so she's shown how to get to him.
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He's there with his sheep.
And chapter 2, she enjoys the richness of being together and yet before chapter 2 is
over, he tells her that she ought to come away from where she is.
She ought to come with him so apparently they're not together.
Just to learn to get the sin out of her life, the little foxes that spoil the vines.
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Take care of things that are in her life that have taken her away from him and come to him.
Apparently she does that.
But get into chapter 3 and there she is.
In her bedroom, the place of intimacy where the husband and wife alone can be together.
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But he's not there.
One thing you know about our Lord, he's never the one wrong.
If he's not there, it's not because he should be there, but because she shouldn't be there.
She should be where he is.
Wherever he is, she should be there.
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She goes about in the city to find her Beloved.
He's not acquainted with the city.
That's not where his heart is.
He's not part of this world.
He doesn't live in a bide and fellowship in the world.
It's not surprising that she can't find him out among men and men's values and men's activities.
She goes to the leaders of the city, the leaders of the world that are there to guard the world.
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They can't tell her where Beloved is.
They can't tell her how to get back into the place of fellowship and the sweetness of his
love.
In mercy he comes to her immediately after she's left their councils and he's there with her.
There's that wonderful time of being together.
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It finishes that chapter off and then he praises her.
My, how chapter four, great, great poetic praise, such beautiful praise of his Beloved.
My with the Lord sees in us what he sees in us for fellowship, what he sees in us for communion,
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what he sees in us for enjoying our love.
She responds and says that she wants to be that for him.
That's where her heart is.
She wants to give her whole heart to him.
Yet, when you go into chapter five, they're separated again.
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They're not together.
He comes to her.
He comes to her, mercifully, graciously comes to her.
She sees his hand reaching the little slot that they had in those days in a door by which
you could reach maybe a couple of fingers through to try to lift a latch.
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If it were locked, if it were secured, you couldn't lift it.
She sees just that little bit of his hand and her heart just responds so completely.
There he is.
He's at the door.
But you know what?
She doesn't want to soil her feet.
She doesn't want to get her feet dirty to walk across the floor to open the door.
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She doesn't want to get a chill.
I have to put her robe on to go from the bed to the door.
It's not convenient.
Now, when she made that choice, he was gone.
Not convenient.
Oh, how much we'd love to have these sweet, personal communion to the Lord, but it just
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doesn't fit in conveniently with what we would like to do with our lives.
It's just not comfortable.
How wonderful it be to be that godly Christian, that Christ-centered Christian, but not if
it means a little bit of inconvenience, a little giving up of what we have that's
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comfortable and warm.
He's gone.
So she goes about to find him, and she goes to the city again.
This time when she goes to the city, she gets beaten.
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Not just talked to by the leaders of the city.
She suffers for it, daring to go back to the world, daring to go the world's way.
This is just the pattern in our lives.
If we leave the Lord's presence and we think, well, I can still have life on my own terms.
Every time you do it, the scars are going to get deeper.
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There is no fulfillment.
There is no joy.
There is no spiritual delight in the world.
There never has been.
There never will be.
And every time you leave the Lord's presence and fellowship and go back to the world to
try to find that fulfillment, you're going to get beaten, hurt more, scarred more.
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It's not going to be less.
The scars are going to burn further into your soul than they did last time.
They kind of start where they were last time and go deeper every time.
And God uses that to show you how much more wonderful it would be if you would just walk
with Him.
Well, where is He so that they can have communion?
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She tries to enlist the aid of others.
Help me find my beloved, she says.
And they said, what's He like?
What is your beloved that He's so wonderful?
Tell us about Him.
Do you know?
She describes Him.
She knows what He's like.
She knows what Her beloved is like.
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She knows why He's wonderful.
Help me find Him.
She says, well, they said, now here's a funny question for somebody to ask.
When you ask Him to help you find somebody, they say, we'd be glad to help you find it.
Where is He?
Where is He?
Well, if I knew where He was, wouldn't you think I wouldn't?
I wouldn't ask you to help me find it.
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She knows where He is.
Do you know how we know where the Lord is by knowing what He is?
She has told them what He is, so she knows where He is.
If you know what somebody is like, you know what they're doing.
If they've got a righteous heart, they're doing righteousness.
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If their heart is a heart of love, they love.
That's what they're doing.
If you know that their heart is self-centered or worldly or wants its own way, wants the
satisfy, it's lust, then I can tell you what it's doing.
That's what it's doing.
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What you are will tell us always what you're doing.
Jesus reversed it the other way.
You can tell what's in a man's heart by what comes out of him.
You can tell by what He's doing what's inside of him, but it goes the other way too.
What's inside of you will always show itself in what you do.
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And so with that, she knows exactly where to go to find him.
Where is He?
He is in the place of where their love, where their fellowship, where they're walking together
can be perfect.
She goes right to that place.
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And ever after that in this book, there's nothing but praise.
She's found the place.
And that's why when you get to this eighth chapter in this fifth verse, this question
is asked, who is this coming up from the wilderness leaning upon her beloved?
Do you know what she's finally learned by the time each chapter is finished?
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She has learned that in this world where what no matter what she has to go through, no matter
what trial, what hurt, what wilderness she has to go through, no matter what hardship
she has to go through, what she has learned is that she must be where he is.
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Oh Lord, come and help me.
Listen, maybe we should pray.
Oh Lord, I'm in trouble.
Help me get to where you are.
If I could get to the place of total trust, total leaning upon you, it wouldn't really
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matter, Lord, what kind of wilderness I have to go through.
I'll go through it.
The beauty of this book is she has learned even in the wilderness.
Stay with him, even in the wilderness.
Lean on him because in leaning on your beloved, you come up out of the wilderness.
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There is no other way to get out of the wilderness.
You know what happened to Israel.
For two years into wilderness, now was it the will of God for Israel to be in the wilderness
for two years, we have very clear evidence in the scriptures that it was not.
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The first choice of God that they should spend that many years into wilderness.
When they came to the borders of the promised land and they sent out their spies, a true
report was brought back by Joshua and Caleb.
The other ten spies brought back an evil report.
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They admitted what was there.
They said, oh, look at the great harvest that's in this land.
It's a rich land.
Oh, but the other said, there are giants in the land.
The great tall men, Goliath and his brethren are some examples.
I mean, there are people nine feet tall in this place.
This is a bad place.
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We better stay away from it.
There are hurtful things here.
And Joshua and Caleb pled with them.
No, we can take it by God's grace.
Trusting in the Lord.
We can take this land.
He has given it to us.
We can believe him and go and take the land.
It doesn't matter how great the giants are.
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But the people held their way.
They were firm.
They said, no.
And you know what they got for it?
A wilderness.
40 years worth.
And you know what God was trying to teach them into wilderness for 40 years?
How to lean on their beloved.
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And all the things they had to go through to learn to lean on their beloved.
Trial after trial after trial after trial.
How hard were the trials?
Well, every male of adult age that refused to go into the land when Joshua and Caleb
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pled with them to go in, every one of them had to die.
They all died into wilderness.
We're talking about trial.
We're talking about a hard road, a dryness of geography.
We're talking about enemies that assaulted them.
We're also talking about ultimately death, every last head of his family, every male,
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every adult male that said no had to die.
Because they didn't lean on him.
In other words, when God reveals his will and his will is always best for us, when he
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reveals his will, our part should be to lean on him and walk in that will.
It's only then that will be able to come out of the wilderness, will he be able to deal
with the troubles and hurts of this life?
You try to deal with your pains and your hurts and your own strength.
Every time you do, I tell you, I'll tell you over and over, you'll get scarred, you'll
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get hurt, you'll get beaten and you'll not have the sweetness of the fellowship with
your Lord.
The New Testament setting I'd like to give you for that is in Colossians chapter 1 where
there's a little prayer that Paul prays for the Colossians.
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Turn to Colossians chapter 1 and at verse 3 I'd like to read.
We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you
since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of your love which you have to all the
saints.
For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven where have you heard before in the
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Word of the truth of the gospel which is coming to you as it is in all the world and bring
a forth fruit as it doth also in you since the day you heard of it and knew the grace
of God and truth.
As you also learn to be paphras, our dear fellow servant who is for you a faithful minister
of Christ who also declared unto us your love and spirit.
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For this cause we also, since the day we heard of it, do not cease to pray for you
and to desire that you might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and
spiritual understanding.
That you might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good
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work and increasing in the knowledge of God.
Faith and with all might according to his glorious power and all patience and long
suffering.
Now you could, if King James had with joyfulness there or in some other translations, just
ended with long suffering.
When the apostle heard that the Colossians had trusted in Christ and had heard the proof
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of that demonstrated in their love for the brethren, for other saints, he began to pray
for them and he kept praying for them because he wanted their walk as Christians to be
all that it should be.
What should it be?
He tells them, he didn't cease to pray for them in verse 9, he tells them that here's
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his desire that you might be filled with the knowledge of his will.
You need to know the will of God.
I'm going to say it as it was from Song of Solomon.
When he tells you his will, when he reveals his will, as he did to Israel in the wilderness,
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when he reveals his will, you ought to obey it, you ought to follow him, you ought to walk
with him in that will.
The will of God involves knowledge and understanding and wisdom.
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Bekhawi speaks of knowledge of his will and then of wisdom, even in this verse.
He says, he wants that they should be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom
and spiritual understanding.
Where the three are, the three great words, knowledge understanding and wisdom, there
they are.
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Well here is the knowledge because let's make it clear.
We're not talking about mere intellectual knowledge here.
We're not talking about the knowledge of facts or intellectual perception.
See, he puts a little something onto that word knowledge to make you understand what
knowledge he wants you to know.
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See the phrase in verse 9?
Knowledge of his will.
That's the knowledge that God wants you to have.
Knowledge of his will, not just intellectual knowledge, not just something you can get
through a school or by correspondence.
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Knowledge of his will is not just intellectual perception.
It's not just knowing facts.
Knowledge of his will means to know the mind of God, to know the plan of God, to know the
purpose of God.
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That's his will.
The will of God is the purpose or plan or mind of God.
But he actually wants us to know his mind.
Well that's what the Bible is given to you for, to help you know the mind of God.
He hasn't determined to stand behind a brick wall for you.
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He wants you to know his mind.
It's like the beloved in the Son of Solomon.
She knew where he was because she knew what he was.
He had revealed himself to her.
She'd entered into what he was.
She knew by experience what he was, so she knew where she should be.
She should be with him.
If this book can help you understand God, if you know what he is, then you know where
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you should be.
You know you should be where he is.
The wonderful thing about salvation is he makes you able to be what he is, so you can
be where he is.
That's how the what and the where go together.
He makes you to be, I'll say it again, he makes you to be what he is.
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You see, you get to become righteousness as he is righteous.
You become alive with the kind of life that God alone has.
It's called eternal life.
You are made able to love because God is love.
See he makes you what he is so you can be where he is.
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Now here's the determination of God.
In eternity you're going to be where he is.
That's the way it's going to be.
You say, well I'm all for that.
That's heaven.
You're right.
That's heaven.
And you're going to be where he is.
But listen, it's no different for this earth.
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It's no different for right now.
He wants you to be where he is.
He wants you to be where he is right now.
He wants you to be there in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.
In other words, I've got to know if I'm going to be where he is, I've got to know what it
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is to be there in all wisdom.
It's interesting, he says all wisdom.
Is that linking up of our spirit with the spirit of God?
Wisdom is our yieldedness to the spirit of God.
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Tenderly responding to him.
Wisdom is so tenderly responding to the spirit of God that when he speaks we obey where he
leads we go.
Just literally think of it as like a semi-truck.
You've got the cab and you've got the trailer and you're the trailer.
Don't ever try to be the cab.
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Don't try to say God, come on, let's go.
He leads, I follow.
But here I'm linked.
I'm linked.
I'm linked where he leads, I sure follow because I go.
I'm linked.
That's wisdom.
Wisdom is to respond from your heart completely as the Lord leads, as the Lord directs, as
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the Lord moves you go.
You know when he reveals his will, what he wants from you is that kind of yieldedness,
that kind of following, that kind of surrender.
What he wants from you is a complete linkage.
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Maintain that linkage, maintain that surrender, maintain that dependence on him because when
you lean on him you come up out of your wilderness.
So Paul prayed for the Colossians.
He prayed for them that they might be filled with the knowledge of God's will.
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It might occupy their minds and occupy their lives, occupy them in their spirits and that
they might do that by being completely yielded to him and responsive to him in wisdom.
As far as understanding goes, understanding is kind of a word that forces you to get a
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broader perspective.
Understanding doesn't just take a thing at a certain point.
You know, and say, oh, I see that little thing there.
I see that little action of God.
I see that little event.
That isn't understanding.
That's more really knowledge.
In kind of gives you a perspective.
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Understanding is as, well, I see the bigger picture.
See, God wants you to be yielded to him when we speak of wisdom here and responsive to
him and moving along with him as you see in everything all these things harmonize.
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What would harmonize?
What gives me the bigger picture?
Well, I'm going to mention a couple.
His word.
Spiritual understanding requires that you see from his counsels, from his word, a picture,
a declaration, a larger view of what God has to say to you.
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Not simply, well, go to this city and sit here in this place.
God can do that.
But he wants you to have that larger picture of his direction of things according to his
teachings, his word.
You know what that means?
You're going to have to know this book and know how all the things in this book fit together.
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What that says is that one teaching in the word of God can never contradict another one.
When you lay down a truth, you can build on it.
Some truth upon another, upon another, upon another.
As God says in Isaiah, here aligned, there aligned, here a little, there a little line
upon line, line upon line, here a little, there a little.
You just build and build and build in God's word.
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You cannot have contradictory teachings.
Therefore you better lay your foundation very carefully and understand the truths of God's
word.
And listen, there is nothing more fundamental than this, that there is salvation in no other.
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And there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved than that
of Jesus Christ.
There is nothing more fundamental than in that salvation.
We are actually made to be a new creation in Christ.
He imparts His righteousness to us.
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We're made alive in Him that His blood has not only paid for our sin, made the atonement
for our sin, but by that blood we are given power to live.
His life becomes our life.
His life is actually imparted to us.
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By and through the blood of Christ that I am actually able to be given life.
Redemption is through the blood.
This scripture knows nothing with this morning.
We remembered the broken body of the Lord and the shed blood of the Lord.
You know the broken body was required that the blood might be shed, but the broken body
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alone would not have saved you.
This Bible knows nothing of redemption except by blood.
They couldn't bring an animal of sacrifice and just club it on the head and throw it
up on the altar.
And say, we're going to mutilate the body a little bit and then that will be a sufficient
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sacrifice.
Not at all.
This blood had to be spilled because as God saw it, life was in the blood.
The shedding of blood was the giving up of life.
It's in the blood of Christ that we have a perfect sacrifice, a perfect atonement made
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and perfect provision made for our lives.
So what a wonderful provision we have in our salvation.
By the will of God, He has done this and now He has a revealed will for our lives generally.
And I believe the Scripture teaches very clearly for our lives individually.
I hope you hold that.
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I hope you understand that God knows you as an individual and that He has a personal will
for your life.
His personal will for your life will never violate the truths, the teachings, the principles
of His Word generally.
Now I mean the general or the total revelation of His Word.
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He couldn't have you sin and still be a righteous God.
He's got to move all things according to the counsels of His Word because they're all in
harmony with what He is.
You've got to find out what He is.
Know His will.
Be surrendered to Him in sensitivity, surrendered in wisdom and require first of all in understanding
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His whole Word comes together.
Something else that will come together for understanding is not just His Word, but all
the personal leadings of the Holy Spirit of God.
You see that follows.
God's Holy Spirit will not lead in your life in a way that contradicts His Word.
And all the leading of the Holy Spirit of God, if it's from Him, will all be in harmony.
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I, as a young person, when I surrendered my life to the Lord, I truly felt that God was
leading me to study medicine, that I might use it for Him on the mission field.
That conviction seemed to be confirmed as years went along, even to the place of what
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subjects I should study in high school and why I should just layer myself with so many
subjects.
And I crammed five years of high school in four years of time.
I just felt I should take all the things I could possibly take in order to be as well
qualified to serve the Lord in a very demanding field as I could possibly be qualified.
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So I did that.
And it came time to choose a college to go to.
And a big factor, probably the biggest factor in my choice of what school to go to rested
on the fact that God had revealed to me that I should be a medical missionary.
So I chose a school that over 50% of the men graduating from it went to medical school.
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It happened to be a men's college, why I could say the men graduating from it.
There were no women there.
So I chose a school where most of the students graduated from medical school.
I thought, this place is really getting people ready for doing that.
That was my goal.
That was my understanding of the will of God.
So I had to walk in that path.
I had to do everything I could to fulfill that will.
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I wasn't really in my spirit and my mind even.
I wasn't set for what happened in the years that followed.
In fact, I was so unprepared for it that after two years in college, I just came to just
total despair.
I couldn't understand what God was doing because everything was turned around.
And it all seemed to be leading away from medical school.
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And I thought, all these years, you know, it can't be this way.
It's got to go on this way.
And I just came to God in prayer and I said, Lord, your will and my surrender to it has
been so clear.
Why are you leading suddenly in different directions now?
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Or is it just my hardness of heart?
What's wrong?
He was truly leading another way.
And I accepted it.
I believe that's why I'm where I am today.
But as I look back, he's given me understanding.
And you know what this is?
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I tell you my understanding from God that if I had not seen that goal of medical school
as his will at the time, I wouldn't have gone as far as I went so that he could then show
me something else that was more in agreement with his will than my former understanding.
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Now when I step back from it, it's a beautiful picture.
He wasn't out of step.
I was just ignorant.
But my it all fits together.
And it was all wonderful.
It's beautiful to look at now.
He shows me and gives me a wonderful understanding that his will required my surrender to his
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leading in wisdom.
And it would all fit together.
He never asked me to contradict his word.
And all of his leading was harmonious with his own purpose.
All my experience harmonized in his will.
It never violated it.
It really is a straight path, an absolutely straight path.
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He took me on no highways or byways.
And that's what Paul wants for the Colossians.
And that's what the song of Solomon wanted for that bride.
That she would just yield.
That she would just lean.
She knew what he was like.
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You see, you need to know and keep on learning and growing in your knowledge of what he's
like.
Because if you know what he's like, you know where he is.
And if you know what he's like, you know where you would be, where you should be.
You should be with him.
And if you keep leaning on him, he is able by wisdom and by understanding he is able
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to lead you in his revealed will.
The will that he has for your life.
But he'll never lead you.
He'll never lead you contrary to his nature.
He will never lead you contrary to his word.
Never lead you contrary to the whole larger picture of what he's like and how he's worked
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before.
And what his plan is.
You want peace?
You want joy?
You want to have the most that God has for you?
Then my prayer for you would be just like for Paul that you would know the will of God
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and that you would know it in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.
You would know it in total yieldiness to him and able by his spirit aid to put his
words teachings together into a broader picture and his experience and leading in your life
into that same picture.
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So it all leads to him, gives glory to him and brings the joy of God and the blessing
of God out in your life.
No matter what wilderness you may be in, without that leaning, without that understanding
of God's Word, without knowing him, without following him, without obeying him, you're
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going to stay in a wilderness and it's going to hurt and hurt and continue to hurt until
maybe like many in the wilderness of Sinai for those 40 years you die.
I don't want that for you.
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God doesn't want that for you.
Why should you miss out on the will of God?
Don't demand that God give you a factual statement until you are ready to receive it.
He works out in the three dimensional world what you're ready for because of your spirits,
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leaning or yieldedness to him.
He wants to work out in three dimensions in this life in your day to day experience.
He wants to work out what his will is, but if you won't yield your heart to him and walk
with him, you're going to choose a way that's contradictory to him.
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You can't glorify God in your own will.
That's why rather than call you to pray simply for a statement of revelation about his will,
he calls you rather if you want to know his will to surrender to him and walk in wisdom
and understanding.
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It may not be the way we want it as fleshly human beings, but that's the way God thinks
his best for us to learn to lean on him.
Heal to him.
Learn to know more and more about him and love him and walk with him.
As the trials of life come, lean on him.
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Lean on him.
As trials come, lean on him because he'll bring you up through them every wilderness you could
possibly ever face and he'll lead you on to better things for your life.
He'll bless you along the way.
He'll direct your path.
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If you lean on him, Lord Jesus, thank you for your love and mercy that you really want
us to know your heart and mind and of being so much in love with you, Lord, that we would
lean on you.
Let even the hurts and problems of this life take us closer to you, Lord, not give us excuse
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for running away because only there we're going to know the joy and peace of our fellowship
with you.
We can say with David, who do we have on earth beside you and who do we have in heaven
beside you, Lord?
There just isn't anybody that loves us more and is more faithful than you.
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Our prayer for one another would be that we would lean on you and know all the will
of God.
In Jesus' name, amen.
All right, there we go.
Thank you, Pastor Raines for a great message.
I tell you, that was going to be a good one.
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All right.
Well, you want to come back next week.
We'll have more from the massive tape archive of the fellowship Bible Church.
Well, better or more massive it is, but at least a couple of hundred tapes.
We're just on, what is this one, 74?
So we still got a few to go yet.
I'm really looking forward to getting to episode 100.
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So that's going to be really soon.
Lots sooner than you.
And I realize, but continue on with it.
So come back next week.
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We'll have more.
And until then, have a great day.
Hello friends and welcome or welcome back.
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This is the legacy Bible podcast.
And if you're new here, you're probably thinking, what is the legacy Bible podcast?
Well, we have a podcast that plays legacy audio from the church tape archives and the
church is the fellowship Bible Church of Joliet Illinois.
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And they had a massive tape collection of their back services way back into the
80s.
So I thought I'd make them into a podcast and here we go.
You haven't.
We're having one from April 7, 1991.
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It's titled leaning through the wilderness and starts off with the song of Solomon and
goes into colossians.
And yes, there ain't so we bring in a great message for that.
So let's get right into it.
And I'll talk to you on the other side of it.
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There is a wonderful, wonderful verse in the song of Solomon chapter 8.
That is for me the culmination of the whole book of the song of Solomon.
I've referred to it often before, but I want to go back to it this morning.
Chapter 8 verse 5, who is this?
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Who is this that cometh up from the wilderness leaning upon her beloved?
Well who it is is the bride, the one that we see all the way through the song of Solomon
is the bride, the sweetheart, the wife of the Lord, the one he has chosen for himself.
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The song of Solomon tells us about a bride though that is not perfect on the outside.
You know chapter 1, she looks at herself and she sees herself as deeply suntanned because
she's been out in the world and tending the vineyards out in the world.
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It's really a way of saying she hasn't been with him because she says my own vineyard,
have I not kept.
So the book really starts there.
There's just things wrong with her.
She's out where she doesn't belong.
She should be with her.
Beloved.
And so she's shown how to get to him.
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He's there with his sheep.
And chapter 2, she enjoys the richness of being together and yet before chapter 2 is
over, he tells her that she ought to come away from where she is.
She ought to come with him so apparently they're not together.
Just to learn to get the sin out of her life, the little foxes that spoil the vines.
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Take care of things that are in her life that have taken her away from him and come to him.
Apparently she does that.
But get into chapter 3 and there she is.
In her bedroom, the place of intimacy where the husband and wife alone can be together.
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But he's not there.
One thing you know about our Lord, he's never the one wrong.
If he's not there, it's not because he should be there, but because she shouldn't be there.
She should be where he is.
Wherever he is, she should be there.
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She goes about in the city to find her Beloved.
He's not acquainted with the city.
That's not where his heart is.
He's not part of this world.
He doesn't live in a bide and fellowship in the world.
It's not surprising that she can't find him out among men and men's values and men's activities.
She goes to the leaders of the city, the leaders of the world that are there to guard the world.
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They can't tell her where Beloved is.
They can't tell her how to get back into the place of fellowship and the sweetness of his
love.
In mercy he comes to her immediately after she's left their councils and he's there with her.
There's that wonderful time of being together.
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It finishes that chapter off and then he praises her.
My, how chapter four, great, great poetic praise, such beautiful praise of his Beloved.
My with the Lord sees in us what he sees in us for fellowship, what he sees in us for communion,
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what he sees in us for enjoying our love.
She responds and says that she wants to be that for him.
That's where her heart is.
She wants to give her whole heart to him.
Yet, when you go into chapter five, they're separated again.
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They're not together.
He comes to her.
He comes to her, mercifully, graciously comes to her.
She sees his hand reaching the little slot that they had in those days in a door by which
you could reach maybe a couple of fingers through to try to lift a latch.
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If it were locked, if it were secured, you couldn't lift it.
She sees just that little bit of his hand and her heart just responds so completely.
There he is.
He's at the door.
But you know what?
She doesn't want to soil her feet.
She doesn't want to get her feet dirty to walk across the floor to open the door.
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She doesn't want to get a chill.
I have to put her robe on to go from the bed to the door.
It's not convenient.
Now, when she made that choice, he was gone.
Not convenient.
Oh, how much we'd love to have these sweet, personal communion to the Lord, but it just
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doesn't fit in conveniently with what we would like to do with our lives.
It's just not comfortable.
How wonderful it be to be that godly Christian, that Christ-centered Christian, but not if
it means a little bit of inconvenience, a little giving up of what we have that's
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comfortable and warm.
He's gone.
So she goes about to find him, and she goes to the city again.
This time when she goes to the city, she gets beaten.
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Not just talked to by the leaders of the city.
She suffers for it, daring to go back to the world, daring to go the world's way.
This is just the pattern in our lives.
If we leave the Lord's presence and we think, well, I can still have life on my own terms.
Every time you do it, the scars are going to get deeper.
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There is no fulfillment.
There is no joy.
There is no spiritual delight in the world.
There never has been.
There never will be.
And every time you leave the Lord's presence and fellowship and go back to the world to
try to find that fulfillment, you're going to get beaten, hurt more, scarred more.
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It's not going to be less.
The scars are going to burn further into your soul than they did last time.
They kind of start where they were last time and go deeper every time.
And God uses that to show you how much more wonderful it would be if you would just walk
with Him.
Well, where is He so that they can have communion?
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She tries to enlist the aid of others.
Help me find my beloved, she says.
And they said, what's He like?
What is your beloved that He's so wonderful?
Tell us about Him.
Do you know?
She describes Him.
She knows what He's like.
She knows what Her beloved is like.
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She knows why He's wonderful.
Help me find Him.
She says, well, they said, now here's a funny question for somebody to ask.
When you ask Him to help you find somebody, they say, we'd be glad to help you find it.
Where is He?
Where is He?
Well, if I knew where He was, wouldn't you think I wouldn't?
I wouldn't ask you to help me find it.
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She knows where He is.
Do you know how we know where the Lord is by knowing what He is?
She has told them what He is, so she knows where He is.
If you know what somebody is like, you know what they're doing.
If they've got a righteous heart, they're doing righteousness.
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If their heart is a heart of love, they love.
That's what they're doing.
If you know that their heart is self-centered or worldly or wants its own way, wants the
satisfy, it's lust, then I can tell you what it's doing.
That's what it's doing.
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What you are will tell us always what you're doing.
Jesus reversed it the other way.
You can tell what's in a man's heart by what comes out of him.
You can tell by what He's doing what's inside of him, but it goes the other way too.
What's inside of you will always show itself in what you do.
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And so with that, she knows exactly where to go to find him.
Where is He?
He is in the place of where their love, where their fellowship, where they're walking together
can be perfect.
She goes right to that place.
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And ever after that in this book, there's nothing but praise.
She's found the place.
And that's why when you get to this eighth chapter in this fifth verse, this question
is asked, who is this coming up from the wilderness leaning upon her beloved?
Do you know what she's finally learned by the time each chapter is finished?
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She has learned that in this world where what no matter what she has to go through, no matter
what trial, what hurt, what wilderness she has to go through, no matter what hardship
she has to go through, what she has learned is that she must be where he is.
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Oh Lord, come and help me.
Listen, maybe we should pray.
Oh Lord, I'm in trouble.
Help me get to where you are.
If I could get to the place of total trust, total leaning upon you, it wouldn't really
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matter, Lord, what kind of wilderness I have to go through.
I'll go through it.
The beauty of this book is she has learned even in the wilderness.
Stay with him, even in the wilderness.
Lean on him because in leaning on your beloved, you come up out of the wilderness.
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There is no other way to get out of the wilderness.
You know what happened to Israel.
For two years into wilderness, now was it the will of God for Israel to be in the wilderness
for two years, we have very clear evidence in the scriptures that it was not.
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The first choice of God that they should spend that many years into wilderness.
When they came to the borders of the promised land and they sent out their spies, a true
report was brought back by Joshua and Caleb.
The other ten spies brought back an evil report.
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They admitted what was there.
They said, oh, look at the great harvest that's in this land.
It's a rich land.
Oh, but the other said, there are giants in the land.
The great tall men, Goliath and his brethren are some examples.
I mean, there are people nine feet tall in this place.
This is a bad place.
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We better stay away from it.
There are hurtful things here.
And Joshua and Caleb pled with them.
No, we can take it by God's grace.
Trusting in the Lord.
We can take this land.
He has given it to us.
We can believe him and go and take the land.
It doesn't matter how great the giants are.
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But the people held their way.
They were firm.
They said, no.
And you know what they got for it?
A wilderness.
40 years worth.
And you know what God was trying to teach them into wilderness for 40 years?
How to lean on their beloved.
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And all the things they had to go through to learn to lean on their beloved.
Trial after trial after trial after trial.
How hard were the trials?
Well, every male of adult age that refused to go into the land when Joshua and Caleb
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pled with them to go in, every one of them had to die.
They all died into wilderness.
We're talking about trial.
We're talking about a hard road, a dryness of geography.
We're talking about enemies that assaulted them.
We're also talking about ultimately death, every last head of his family, every male,
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every adult male that said no had to die.
Because they didn't lean on him.
In other words, when God reveals his will and his will is always best for us, when he
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reveals his will, our part should be to lean on him and walk in that will.
It's only then that will be able to come out of the wilderness, will he be able to deal
with the troubles and hurts of this life?
You try to deal with your pains and your hurts and your own strength.
Every time you do, I tell you, I'll tell you over and over, you'll get scarred, you'll
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get hurt, you'll get beaten and you'll not have the sweetness of the fellowship with
your Lord.
The New Testament setting I'd like to give you for that is in Colossians chapter 1 where
there's a little prayer that Paul prays for the Colossians.
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Turn to Colossians chapter 1 and at verse 3 I'd like to read.
We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you
since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of your love which you have to all the
saints.
For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven where have you heard before in the
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Word of the truth of the gospel which is coming to you as it is in all the world and bring
a forth fruit as it doth also in you since the day you heard of it and knew the grace
of God and truth.
As you also learn to be paphras, our dear fellow servant who is for you a faithful minister
of Christ who also declared unto us your love and spirit.
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For this cause we also, since the day we heard of it, do not cease to pray for you
and to desire that you might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and
spiritual understanding.
That you might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good
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work and increasing in the knowledge of God.
Faith and with all might according to his glorious power and all patience and long
suffering.
Now you could, if King James had with joyfulness there or in some other translations, just
ended with long suffering.
When the apostle heard that the Colossians had trusted in Christ and had heard the proof
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of that demonstrated in their love for the brethren, for other saints, he began to pray
for them and he kept praying for them because he wanted their walk as Christians to be
all that it should be.
What should it be?
He tells them, he didn't cease to pray for them in verse 9, he tells them that here's
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his desire that you might be filled with the knowledge of his will.
You need to know the will of God.
I'm going to say it as it was from Song of Solomon.
When he tells you his will, when he reveals his will, as he did to Israel in the wilderness,
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when he reveals his will, you ought to obey it, you ought to follow him, you ought to walk
with him in that will.
The will of God involves knowledge and understanding and wisdom.
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Bekhawi speaks of knowledge of his will and then of wisdom, even in this verse.
He says, he wants that they should be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom
and spiritual understanding.
Where the three are, the three great words, knowledge understanding and wisdom, there
they are.
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Well here is the knowledge because let's make it clear.
We're not talking about mere intellectual knowledge here.
We're not talking about the knowledge of facts or intellectual perception.
See, he puts a little something onto that word knowledge to make you understand what
knowledge he wants you to know.
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See the phrase in verse 9?
Knowledge of his will.
That's the knowledge that God wants you to have.
Knowledge of his will, not just intellectual knowledge, not just something you can get
through a school or by correspondence.
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Knowledge of his will is not just intellectual perception.
It's not just knowing facts.
Knowledge of his will means to know the mind of God, to know the plan of God, to know the
purpose of God.
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That's his will.
The will of God is the purpose or plan or mind of God.
But he actually wants us to know his mind.
Well that's what the Bible is given to you for, to help you know the mind of God.
He hasn't determined to stand behind a brick wall for you.
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He wants you to know his mind.
It's like the beloved in the Son of Solomon.
She knew where he was because she knew what he was.
He had revealed himself to her.
She'd entered into what he was.
She knew by experience what he was, so she knew where she should be.
She should be with him.
If this book can help you understand God, if you know what he is, then you know where
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you should be.
You know you should be where he is.
The wonderful thing about salvation is he makes you able to be what he is, so you can
be where he is.
That's how the what and the where go together.
He makes you to be, I'll say it again, he makes you to be what he is.
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You see, you get to become righteousness as he is righteous.
You become alive with the kind of life that God alone has.
It's called eternal life.
You are made able to love because God is love.
See he makes you what he is so you can be where he is.
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Now here's the determination of God.
In eternity you're going to be where he is.
That's the way it's going to be.
You say, well I'm all for that.
That's heaven.
You're right.
That's heaven.
And you're going to be where he is.
But listen, it's no different for this earth.
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It's no different for right now.
He wants you to be where he is.
He wants you to be where he is right now.
He wants you to be there in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.
In other words, I've got to know if I'm going to be where he is, I've got to know what it
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is to be there in all wisdom.
It's interesting, he says all wisdom.
Is that linking up of our spirit with the spirit of God?
Wisdom is our yieldedness to the spirit of God.
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Tenderly responding to him.
Wisdom is so tenderly responding to the spirit of God that when he speaks we obey where he
leads we go.
Just literally think of it as like a semi-truck.
You've got the cab and you've got the trailer and you're the trailer.
Don't ever try to be the cab.
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Don't try to say God, come on, let's go.
He leads, I follow.
But here I'm linked.
I'm linked.
I'm linked where he leads, I sure follow because I go.
I'm linked.
That's wisdom.
Wisdom is to respond from your heart completely as the Lord leads, as the Lord directs, as
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the Lord moves you go.
You know when he reveals his will, what he wants from you is that kind of yieldedness,
that kind of following, that kind of surrender.
What he wants from you is a complete linkage.
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Maintain that linkage, maintain that surrender, maintain that dependence on him because when
you lean on him you come up out of your wilderness.
So Paul prayed for the Colossians.
He prayed for them that they might be filled with the knowledge of God's will.
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It might occupy their minds and occupy their lives, occupy them in their spirits and that
they might do that by being completely yielded to him and responsive to him in wisdom.
As far as understanding goes, understanding is kind of a word that forces you to get a
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broader perspective.
Understanding doesn't just take a thing at a certain point.
You know, and say, oh, I see that little thing there.
I see that little action of God.
I see that little event.
That isn't understanding.
That's more really knowledge.
In kind of gives you a perspective.
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Understanding is as, well, I see the bigger picture.
See, God wants you to be yielded to him when we speak of wisdom here and responsive to
him and moving along with him as you see in everything all these things harmonize.
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What would harmonize?
What gives me the bigger picture?
Well, I'm going to mention a couple.
His word.
Spiritual understanding requires that you see from his counsels, from his word, a picture,
a declaration, a larger view of what God has to say to you.
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Not simply, well, go to this city and sit here in this place.
God can do that.
But he wants you to have that larger picture of his direction of things according to his
teachings, his word.
You know what that means?
You're going to have to know this book and know how all the things in this book fit together.
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What that says is that one teaching in the word of God can never contradict another one.
When you lay down a truth, you can build on it.
Some truth upon another, upon another, upon another.
As God says in Isaiah, here aligned, there aligned, here a little, there a little line
upon line, line upon line, here a little, there a little.
You just build and build and build in God's word.
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You cannot have contradictory teachings.
Therefore you better lay your foundation very carefully and understand the truths of God's
word.
And listen, there is nothing more fundamental than this, that there is salvation in no other.
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And there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved than that
of Jesus Christ.
There is nothing more fundamental than in that salvation.
We are actually made to be a new creation in Christ.
He imparts His righteousness to us.
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We're made alive in Him that His blood has not only paid for our sin, made the atonement
for our sin, but by that blood we are given power to live.
His life becomes our life.
His life is actually imparted to us.
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By and through the blood of Christ that I am actually able to be given life.
Redemption is through the blood.
This scripture knows nothing with this morning.
We remembered the broken body of the Lord and the shed blood of the Lord.
You know the broken body was required that the blood might be shed, but the broken body
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alone would not have saved you.
This Bible knows nothing of redemption except by blood.
They couldn't bring an animal of sacrifice and just club it on the head and throw it
up on the altar.
And say, we're going to mutilate the body a little bit and then that will be a sufficient
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sacrifice.
Not at all.
This blood had to be spilled because as God saw it, life was in the blood.
The shedding of blood was the giving up of life.
It's in the blood of Christ that we have a perfect sacrifice, a perfect atonement made
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and perfect provision made for our lives.
So what a wonderful provision we have in our salvation.
By the will of God, He has done this and now He has a revealed will for our lives generally.
And I believe the Scripture teaches very clearly for our lives individually.
I hope you hold that.
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I hope you understand that God knows you as an individual and that He has a personal will
for your life.
His personal will for your life will never violate the truths, the teachings, the principles
of His Word generally.
Now I mean the general or the total revelation of His Word.
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He couldn't have you sin and still be a righteous God.
He's got to move all things according to the counsels of His Word because they're all in
harmony with what He is.
You've got to find out what He is.
Know His will.
Be surrendered to Him in sensitivity, surrendered in wisdom and require first of all in understanding
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His whole Word comes together.
Something else that will come together for understanding is not just His Word, but all
the personal leadings of the Holy Spirit of God.
You see that follows.
God's Holy Spirit will not lead in your life in a way that contradicts His Word.
And all the leading of the Holy Spirit of God, if it's from Him, will all be in harmony.
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I, as a young person, when I surrendered my life to the Lord, I truly felt that God was
leading me to study medicine, that I might use it for Him on the mission field.
That conviction seemed to be confirmed as years went along, even to the place of what
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subjects I should study in high school and why I should just layer myself with so many
subjects.
And I crammed five years of high school in four years of time.
I just felt I should take all the things I could possibly take in order to be as well
qualified to serve the Lord in a very demanding field as I could possibly be qualified.
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So I did that.
And it came time to choose a college to go to.
And a big factor, probably the biggest factor in my choice of what school to go to rested
on the fact that God had revealed to me that I should be a medical missionary.
So I chose a school that over 50% of the men graduating from it went to medical school.
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It happened to be a men's college, why I could say the men graduating from it.
There were no women there.
So I chose a school where most of the students graduated from medical school.
I thought, this place is really getting people ready for doing that.
That was my goal.
That was my understanding of the will of God.
So I had to walk in that path.
I had to do everything I could to fulfill that will.
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I wasn't really in my spirit and my mind even.
I wasn't set for what happened in the years that followed.
In fact, I was so unprepared for it that after two years in college, I just came to just
total despair.
I couldn't understand what God was doing because everything was turned around.
And it all seemed to be leading away from medical school.
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And I thought, all these years, you know, it can't be this way.
It's got to go on this way.
And I just came to God in prayer and I said, Lord, your will and my surrender to it has
been so clear.
Why are you leading suddenly in different directions now?
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Or is it just my hardness of heart?
What's wrong?
He was truly leading another way.
And I accepted it.
I believe that's why I'm where I am today.
But as I look back, he's given me understanding.
And you know what this is?
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I tell you my understanding from God that if I had not seen that goal of medical school
as his will at the time, I wouldn't have gone as far as I went so that he could then show
me something else that was more in agreement with his will than my former understanding.
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Now when I step back from it, it's a beautiful picture.
He wasn't out of step.
I was just ignorant.
But my it all fits together.
And it was all wonderful.
It's beautiful to look at now.
He shows me and gives me a wonderful understanding that his will required my surrender to his
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leading in wisdom.
And it would all fit together.
He never asked me to contradict his word.
And all of his leading was harmonious with his own purpose.
All my experience harmonized in his will.
It never violated it.
It really is a straight path, an absolutely straight path.
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He took me on no highways or byways.
And that's what Paul wants for the Colossians.
And that's what the song of Solomon wanted for that bride.
That she would just yield.
That she would just lean.
She knew what he was like.
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You see, you need to know and keep on learning and growing in your knowledge of what he's
like.
Because if you know what he's like, you know where he is.
And if you know what he's like, you know where you would be, where you should be.
You should be with him.
And if you keep leaning on him, he is able by wisdom and by understanding he is able
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to lead you in his revealed will.
The will that he has for your life.
But he'll never lead you.
He'll never lead you contrary to his nature.
He will never lead you contrary to his word.
Never lead you contrary to the whole larger picture of what he's like and how he's worked
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before.
And what his plan is.
You want peace?
You want joy?
You want to have the most that God has for you?
Then my prayer for you would be just like for Paul that you would know the will of God
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and that you would know it in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.
You would know it in total yieldiness to him and able by his spirit aid to put his
words teachings together into a broader picture and his experience and leading in your life
into that same picture.
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So it all leads to him, gives glory to him and brings the joy of God and the blessing
of God out in your life.
No matter what wilderness you may be in, without that leaning, without that understanding
of God's Word, without knowing him, without following him, without obeying him, you're
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going to stay in a wilderness and it's going to hurt and hurt and continue to hurt until
maybe like many in the wilderness of Sinai for those 40 years you die.
I don't want that for you.
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God doesn't want that for you.
Why should you miss out on the will of God?
Don't demand that God give you a factual statement until you are ready to receive it.
He works out in the three dimensional world what you're ready for because of your spirits,
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leaning or yieldedness to him.
He wants to work out in three dimensions in this life in your day to day experience.
He wants to work out what his will is, but if you won't yield your heart to him and walk
with him, you're going to choose a way that's contradictory to him.
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You can't glorify God in your own will.
That's why rather than call you to pray simply for a statement of revelation about his will,
he calls you rather if you want to know his will to surrender to him and walk in wisdom
and understanding.
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It may not be the way we want it as fleshly human beings, but that's the way God thinks
his best for us to learn to lean on him.
Heal to him.
Learn to know more and more about him and love him and walk with him.
As the trials of life come, lean on him.
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Lean on him.
As trials come, lean on him because he'll bring you up through them every wilderness you could
possibly ever face and he'll lead you on to better things for your life.
He'll bless you along the way.
He'll direct your path.
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If you lean on him, Lord Jesus, thank you for your love and mercy that you really want
us to know your heart and mind and of being so much in love with you, Lord, that we would
lean on you.
Let even the hurts and problems of this life take us closer to you, Lord, not give us excuse
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for running away because only there we're going to know the joy and peace of our fellowship
with you.
We can say with David, who do we have on earth beside you and who do we have in heaven
beside you, Lord?
There just isn't anybody that loves us more and is more faithful than you.
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Our prayer for one another would be that we would lean on you and know all the will
of God.
In Jesus' name, amen.
All right, there we go.
Thank you, Pastor Raines for a great message.
I tell you, that was going to be a good one.
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All right.
Well, you want to come back next week.
We'll have more from the massive tape archive of the fellowship Bible Church.
Well, better or more massive it is, but at least a couple of hundred tapes.
We're just on, what is this one, 74?
So we still got a few to go yet.
I'm really looking forward to getting to episode 100.
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So that's going to be really soon.
Lots sooner than you.
And I realize, but continue on with it.
So come back next week.
And if you like, subscribe, right?
Comment, share with someone.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Reach your Bible.
Really pushing that share, reach your Bible walls and to the podcast.
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Good idea.
All right.
So come back next week.
We'll have more.
And until then, have a great day.
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