From Associate to Entrepreneur: Starting J.G. Boyd Law and a Scandalous Engagement

Welcome to the final episode of our series! In this captivating installment, Joanna shares her inspiring journey from working as an associate attorney to starting her own law firm. She discusses the challenges she faced, the lessons learned, and the motivations behind her decision to branch out on her own.

In the second segment, "What Would Joanna Do (WWJD)," Joanna tackles a dramatic relationship dilemma. A listener reveals that she has been engaged to a man who she recently discovered is already married with children. Joanna offers her candid advice on how to handle the situation with dignity and respect.

Finally, Joanna reacts to a viral video where a father expresses his frustration over his child's mother taking their baby to visit her new boyfriend in jail. Joanna provides her insights on co-parenting, the importance of putting the child's best interests first, and how to navigate complex family dynamics.

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um i think today we're talking about how i ended up starting my own firm guys
i used to work for a guy um as an associate attorney

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and as you can guess associate attorneys
coming in at the very beginning uh typically
get a lot of the work and not a
lot of the money um but me and this guy in particular really
great guy we still talk to this day he had a structure
in place to where you know if i bring clients in
on my own that i would get supplements to

(01:03):
my salad and i took off with it i definitely took
advantage of it I was bringing clients in left and right
I'm from Georgia um and I'm practicing here so as
soon as people found out that I was attorney I'm getting all the calls
and even if it's a case I can't handle I know somebody who
can so plenty of referral fees it was just it was God to say you know here are

(01:24):
the clients that you need to go forward so I'm bringing in all these clients
I'm getting bonuses it's doing okay um it got to a point where I felt as though
I wasn't making what I deserve.
Not only because I was bringing in so many clients, but just because the salary
in general wasn't commensurate to the experience at that point.

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And I remember during COVID, a lot of law offices kind of slowed down just because
people were on lockdown and it was
just a struggle for everybody during that time um I
started doing clothing I
started doing mobile clothing where people

(02:08):
were refinancing their home remember those really low 3.1 interest
rates during COVID I was everywhere doing clothing doing clothing um even after
work and I brought it to my employer because I knew business had slowed down
from there I can see brought it to him I I started talking about all the money
that could be made through doing clothing.

(02:29):
I cannot make this up, y'all. The man looked me in the eye and said, Oh, I'll tell you what.
How about you find the client, you can do the clothing, and I'll give you 10%.
I do right then. I'm about to get the fuck off because what?
I'm about to leave. What are you talking about?

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10% is what he told me. It's quick, Ben. You're not going to grow here.
And it's also a lesson I've learned as a business owner. You can ask anybody
that's ever worked for me. There's always a bonus structure in place.
There's always room to grow. So there's always, you're always getting paid for
the work that you do, the overtime that you do.
Because I felt that I wasn't getting that. And if I were, you know,

(03:14):
I'd still be there and the firm would probably be better for it. But here we are.
Another reason that kind of made me want to jump off the port is having the
ability to control the dynamic of the brand.
A lot of the things that other people stand for, I might not agree with.
Everybody is raised differently everybody has different

(03:37):
views on on what their values
are and their morals and sometimes it doesn't
line up and the way I care about black men and black women in society might
not be the way somebody else does and I realized that very quickly that if I
wanted to be able to make the impact that I was looking to make I would have

(04:00):
to branch out and make some noise on my own.
Because when you're under an employer, you're typically required to voice their
brand, right? And what their beliefs, what the company beliefs are.
You don't get to go in there and say, you know, our company is about X,
Y, Z, but I think, no, no, because it's improper.
And so it was best that I just do it on my own.

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And I'm so glad that I did because here we are making a lot of noise and making big impact. So, Jamie.
All right guys welcome to my second segment
what would joanna do wwjd and here we have people sending in letters asking
questions and i get to tell you a good honest authentic opinion about what i

(04:49):
think they should do here we go this one is titled we're engaged but he's married,
let's all laugh together what oh okay i haven't seen this in advance i want
you guys to know i I like to try to give you my natural reactions,
but if I cuss a little, I'm sorry. All right. Hi, Joanna.

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I've been seeing this guy for two years. He's from another town,
but visits me on weekends.
I never met his family, friends, or been to his town. I know that he works at
the church and he takes pride in that.
Last month, we went ring shopping, which made me believe that he'll be popping
the question soon, which had me excited. it.
Three weeks ago, I found out that he's actually married and he has two kids.

(05:33):
I was devastated and in a state of disbelief, but most of all,
I was mad, especially after confirming this via his wife's social media account.
We're still talking and I haven't broke up with him yet.
I planned and decided to show myself to his family on Sunday at his church and
let them know that he used me and took advantage.

(05:55):
I plan on ending it right there and then.
I'm currently in his town staying at a hotel i'm
doing this tomorrow and no one knows except myself
he's still texting me lies thinking that i'm stupid
or ignorant i feel terrible but something's pushing
me to do this don't know if it is anger or
feeling bad for his wife and kids i just i'm not gonna lie i'm worried this

(06:19):
might backfire at me but at this point I have nothing to lose nothing damn I
just you got nothing to lose I just feel like I need to get my respect and dignity
back after being lied to and fooled for two years.
I can't wait to get into this, y'all. We almost, oh, that's the whole thing?
Oh, yeah, let's get into it. Let me back up some. Let's start with,

(06:46):
how's it going? I've been seeing this guy for two years.
Let me see. You've been with a man for two years who came out of town but visits you on the weekends.
You've never met any of his family, any of his friends, or been to his home.
Hometown for two years you've been seeing somebody and you've never met any

(07:11):
of his family any of his friends or been to his hometown but you know that he
works at a church how do you know that,
how do you know that last month we went ring shopping which made me believe
that he'll be popping the question soon why because you went looking at rings
did he pop the question because i mean this says we're engaged but he's married

(07:31):
when did he propose was there a proposal or you He just kind of ran with that
because it doesn't sound to me that he proposed.
It sounds like he's been dangling, you know, something over your head this entire
time. Three weeks ago, I found out he's actually married and has two kids.
Devastated and in a state of disbelief for most of all, I was mad,
especially after I confirmed this via his social media account.

(07:53):
And you have every right to be mad about finding out about something like that,
because apparently you trusted him.
You like him you're probably in love after two years i
probably love him about a month so two years i know
you know you have strong feelings for this
man and here he is a liar he's not even who
you thought he was to begin with and i know that has to

(08:14):
be devastating now here's where it kind of goes wrong for me we're still talking
and i haven't broke up with him yet i planned and decided to show myself his
family on sunday at his church and let them know that he used me I plan on ending
it right there and then what is your ultimate goal because you say in here,

(08:35):
that you feel bad for his wife and kids,
That you think it might backfire and you need to get your respect and dignity
back. So I like to break things down. Look at the end goal, right?
Before you make a decision as to what you're going to do, you need to look at
what results am I looking for, okay?
And looking at the results, you want your respect back. You want your dignity

(08:58):
back. You feel bad for his kids.
What is blowing him up in front of his family going to do about you wanting your respect back?
It's not going to gain you any more respect. it's not going to give you
your dignity back and it's not going to be helpful for the kids or the the wife
that you feel bad for it's going to be very hurtful for them and sometimes people

(09:21):
put us in these situations where um it's somewhat of a lose-lose right he screwed you over,
and that is unfortunate oftentimes the battle is not yours you know you have
to look at um who you are as a person there's nothing that someone else can

(09:42):
do to me that's going to change,
my morals or values or what I what I
stand by um I think you exposing him it's
perfectly fine if it makes you feel better but I don't want you to
disguise it as I feel bad for them
no because if you felt bad for them
I think that you would you would
actually end things you would have ended it three weeks ago when you

(10:03):
found out um if you
felt bad for them because what's your plan no come
on now what's what's your plan you're gonna walk up to the wife and the kids
i don't know how old these kids are you're gonna be like what yeah i've been
sleeping with your husband you're gonna do that at the church what like what
do you think is gonna happen here everybody's gonna be like oh he's so

(10:28):
wrong um probably so is his wife gonna leave him maybe maybe not might just piss her off.
How are the kids gonna feel about
it i don't know but play a huge role in protecting them at this point um.
I think you're better off handling everything with him. He has an obligation

(10:54):
to his kids and to his wife.
He has somewhat of an obligation to you. He is the culprit. He is the one that's
in the middle of these things. He is the one that needs to be confronted.
But even still, he was okay with lying to you. I don't think he's going to feel bad.
I just think it's a messed up situation where he did something wrong and there's

(11:15):
nothing left to do there.
You need to leave them alone and
you have to move on and know that God has something way better for you.
There's nothing you can do that's going to make you feel whole again after that.
And you can expose them or not, and it still hurts.

(11:36):
So just think about the effect that you will have on everyone else moving forward
before you make a decision as to what you want to do to get closer.
I think walking away is the best way I think he played you why would he take
you to go look at rings he wanted to hype you up I don't know how old you are

(11:57):
and I wish I knew the age gap between you and him he's terrible,
or like do you have a big brother or something to call I'd be wanting to call
somebody he played you and that is so sad but I don't know that showing up at
the church and exposing yourself.
It's gonna be worth the trouble because ultimately you

(12:20):
have to think about yourself here in fact you should be thinking about yourself
first so I would walk away leave them alone you're gonna need some time to heal
and feel better about things and get your confidence back up and work on those
issues that you probably have after this but I.
I don't know that exposing him in the middle of the church in front of his family

(12:44):
is going to get you what you're actually seeking.
Not if you're just looking to embarrass everybody, go for it,
because that will do the trick.
But if that's not what you're looking for, then you want to think about what
type of reaction you have to this situation.
That's what I would do. Hey, everyone. I know you're enjoying the episode.
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All right guys this segment is joanna
rant i'm gonna watch a viral video with you
all and then i'm gonna rant about it i have not seen this
video yet and i'm excited to see what it is apparently it
got like 170 000 views or

(14:36):
something similar to that so it's kind of popular let's
see what's going on here the digs are
getting deeper now so you're doing
that yeah cool how is my baby telling
me that i'm taking your daughter to
the jail visit to see my man so now she's
telling me i'm going to visit like i'm taking your daughter like she'll

(14:57):
come see you tomorrow that's the kind of conversation so my man's now
becoming before you yeah so i
said to myself like the anger's just
building now just it's just it's just getting it's
just getting mad now you're just disrespecting me
now that's a disrespect how are you gonna take my child i'm not
even in jail i'm on road working doing my

(15:18):
thing like legit money i've stopped all the madness
you know because i used to get onto some madness brother
i stopped everything now i'm not in jail and you want to take my daughter to
get strip searched pampers all getting looked at and whatnot for next month
that's a disrespect that's that's a disrespect i agree um to some extent i agree.

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Here's the thing about parenting. Everyone has different parenting styles.
And sometimes the values of mom don't match up with dad's values.
Now, I recognize that mom most likely has considerably deep feelings for this man she's seen.

(16:09):
Obviously, she's traveling down the road to go and visit him.
And he said something about diapers are we talking about a little bitty baby
because what what's the point they don't notice this guy like that.
They don't they can't communicate with him
why do you want your child in that environment if

(16:32):
they don't have to be is it
his child what if
the baby belonged to the man in jail because what
why are you telling the dad that no
you can't see the baby i'm taking i'm taking
her to the jail and this is this is a big problem because whoever has like the

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authority to make decisions gets to make the decision whether it's smart or
stupid at the time and i'm struggling
with why you would want to leave out dad.
It sounds like he wanted time with her that same day.
So go see your man, leave the baby with her dad. Everybody wins.

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Are you trying to hurt him? Is it like your goal to be like, you know, fuck you.
I got a new man, he in jail, but I got one, you know, and that's where we going.
Why do you want your daughter exposed to jail visitation? For what?

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She doesn't have to be. It's not an immediate family member or anybody that
you're trying to support other than somebody that you're seeing.
I don't know that that's the best way to go about things.
And for him, because what do you do about that, right? When you raise hell about
it, it becomes a problem.
You take it to court and somebody has to make these decisions.

(18:01):
And the court is like well it was her time do what
she's gonna do with the baby you just hope
that you don't run into situations like all of these all of
these videos come back to the same thing about who you have kids with you
need to know these people's values and what's important to
them um before you have a
baby because these are the type of things that you run into um

(18:22):
whether or not i agree with your parenting style and
what you're exposing our child to and he obviously
doesn't agree and i'm i don't agree either that
doesn't even make sense drop him off with the baby drop the baby off with the
daddy go see your man everybody wins i think there's something benedictive in
here because everybody could have easily been happy why do you want this baby

(18:45):
to see this man in jail so bad the man in jail don't give a shit about the baby he's in jail.
Well to get out oh I just don't understand unless you're trying to um kind of
throw your weight around not getting how I'm going what I want to do.

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Yeah, very ghetto. I don't like it. I mean, here's the thing.
Kids need to be surrounded by love, and wherever you get that love from,
so be it. You know, I don't know her story.
Sometimes dad's voice concerns that are not necessarily fully developed or all-inclusive

(19:31):
of what's really happening.
I don't know how involved his dad is. What if he hasn't seen this baby for X
amount of time? Who knows?
The good thing is, it sounds like they have, this child has two parents that love the child.
And at some point, even if it takes counseling or something similar,

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I think it will be worth a shot on trying to get on the same page.
Babies and diapers is what you got years to come. and their
character and the way that they contribute to society in the future is going
to be dependent on their experiences as they grow up and these are the experiences
that the parents are facing now so try to keep that in mind people y'all gotta

(20:14):
stop letting your feelings and emotions,
guide and lead you in your decision making process,
it's not always about you it's really about this baby girl I'm willing to bet
you the baby girl or want to play with toys and shit.
You don't want to be at the gym. Did you think about that?
I don't know, but I think it's definitely something that's better.

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The grandmother thing.
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