Heated Debate: Step-Mom Said F Them Kids... Child Support Issues

In this episode, the hosts dive into a viral video that sparks a heated debate about child support and parental responsibilities. The video captures a tense argument where a father is torn between his obligations to his child and his marriage. The hosts offer their candid reactions and engage in a lively discussion, defending both sides of the argument.

They explore the legal and moral obligations of parents, the complexities of financial responsibilities, and the impact of emotional dynamics in blended families. The debate is intense, with strong opinions on both sides, leading to a thought-provoking conversation about what it means to be a good parent and partner.

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And then from there, we're going to pick a side out of a hat.
Nobody gets to choose sides. We're going to pick it out the hat.
Okay. And we'll argue for that person. All right. All right.
This is, this was a viral video, I believe.

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All right. Let's watch it. Okay. Let's see what happens.
This is the shit I got to go through. I got to choose between my child and my marriage.
The shit is getting old. It's getting very old. I'm not going to tell you.
I'm not going to tell you.
I don't need to be there for no Facebook, no YouTube. No, no,

(01:02):
no, no. I don't need to know that.
Because one thing is to say, you pay $500 a month. You can drive me home. You can get out of here.
You can pay $500 a month. But it's Halliburton, and ain't nobody been doing
no hips, no shoes, no clothes, no toys, no black.
Don't call me that. I'm going to send her to the hospital. I don't give a damn.
No, baby. She didn't get a shoe that I saw her that black. I mean, you're rude.

(01:25):
She didn't get a shoe that I saw her for. I wanted to have a few things I could
buy for her. The car I wanted to buy for her. Then I got this shit out,
and she ain't using that now.
She's some guy who's got a job for her. Can you call her? How's your dad?
Fuck that job. Fuck that job. I don't give a shit about that.
What? I feel like I got a treatment for my child.

(01:45):
Whoa. I'm ready. This is what we got. Yeah. Whose side? Whose side?
Please don't give me the wrong side.
Let me show the camera who I got. Ready? Go.
Oh. You know what? It's the one thing about being a good lawyer is when you
can argue a terrible case.
So I'm with all of it. Let's see what we can do. And I can argue both sides as well, but thank you.

(02:06):
And maybe we should do that. What's that? Argue both sides? Well,
we can do it the way it was initially supposed to be done. And then switch? Yeah. Okay.
Y'all. Well, wait a minute. Who say you get to go first? You say so.
First of all, back to what I was saying, my first child's father, nobody's perfect.
Of course, there's going to be things that we don't agree on,

(02:27):
but I must give him some kudos.
When you got more than one child, he's a good father to our son.
Now, again, there's some things I definitely don't agree on,
but for the most part, I'm grateful. He's a good father. I'll say that.
Defend the husband. Let's start with the issue. First issue is she's a bitch.

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And I know that's really not the legal issue, but we're not in court.
She's a bitch. She doesn't know her hierarchy, how to talk to a man, first of all.
Second thing, she's not even in a family tree, seemingly, because she's saying, F your child.
That was wild. That's more than wild. But we'll get to the legality of it. Defend the husband.
The issue is, should the husband be doing anything additional for the child

(03:14):
because Because he has a court order to pay $500 a month for the child's necessities.
That's his child support agreement.
The answer for me is yes.
Legally, he's not obligated to. Morally and ethically, it seems like he's a good man.
He wants to do more for the child. I don't know what year this was in or where
they live demographically, but we all know $500 a month, you're going to spend

(03:38):
divots and buy a pair of socks. That $500 is gone.
You'll get your hair done. You got to add some money to that. You'll fill up an X5.
What $500 a month putting a den in at? So my oldest son was a size 13 in shoes.
Even if I buy him some Air Force Ones, almost $200, right?

(04:00):
That's one pair of shoes. But we're talking about necessity,
shelter, clothing, water, food.
We're not even talking about other things, spring break, vacations.
They want to go out with their friends to the movies, even if it's a child in
kindergarten. garden, field trips, ice cream, at the school snacks,
at the school care, all that stuff.

(04:21):
So the first thing is she's wrong because this should be a conversation between you and your husband.
He shouldn't have got on social media with it. I'll give him that.
Because he definitely got on social media with it. Shouldn't have did that.
But it still should be a conversation between you and your husband.
The issue arises, not only what she says, the way she says it.
$500 a month clearly is not enough for the mother and the father must feel the

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same way to do what needs to be done for the child. It could be a birthday.
It could be something special that the child wants. I don't know.
But legally, I'm kind of arguing on the other side.
Legally, he's not obligated to because whatever the court order is or whatever
the agreement is, that's in stone, right? That's justified.
That's what's memorialized and that's what the court is going to go with.

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However, any additional things that you may want to do for your child as a man
or woman, you should be able to do the shoes, not five hundred dollar shoes.
And if they are, this is something he's choosing to do.
So she did. She did as well. I don't know.
You know what? What I what I hate the most about these videos is there's never enough information.

(05:26):
And as just the way I've learned to think is to try to boil down to what's really
taking place here. Right.
I don't know how much this man makes. What if he's unemployed?
What if the wife is printing the $500 a month and the bills at the house?
She would have said it. She wouldn't have said it? She would have said it.
She could have said it, but even if she didn't, that doesn't make it not true.

(05:49):
I just feel like it's not enough because why are you this mad?
It's not like this man is making a million dollars a year and he's like,
she's like, no, you ain't giving no more than $500.
He don't have it. They struggling. This leads me to believe that they're struggling.
And if that is the case, I don't have no more than $500.
But those are all additional possibilities. We got to go out to facts.

(06:10):
$500 a month is not going to help my lifestyle.
You mentioned the X5. You mentioned, you know, going to, what did you say?
You didn't say just, you said Spine Divots. You know, you mentioned these things.
It's a little upper echelon. Everybody's not going to Spondavis.
Everybody's not driving an X5. I drive a Maserati.

(06:31):
$500 a month is not going to do very much, you know, for my lifestyle.
We don't know these people. You know what I'm saying? $500 a month before I
was an attorney or anything else was a good amount of money to do a lot of things with, you know?
And we have to think about what the income looks like before we say that you're not doing enough.

(06:51):
So the court ordered this income, so they looked at both. They looked at the
income and said, $500 is sufficient from you to cover whatever this child needs.
Now, him going outside of his way to do something is fine. But if I'm defending
the wife, the question is, how much of that is pouring into wife?
Now, as a wife, I'm here to back my husband. I'm here to make sure that everything is okay with you.

(07:13):
I'm going to make sure I carry you where you fall and encourage you to get up.
You know, at the same time, you're not about to drag me. I don't know if the
man works or how much he... If he bringing in $1,000 a month,
that $500 look like a lot now, right? Right. Because who's covering the bills?
Now, if he's bringing in $10,000 a month, then there wouldn't have been a $500 support amount.

(07:35):
I understand. So let's go here because the argument is not about the $500 a
month that he's paying for child support. We know that. That's clear and cool.
The issue is him doing anything additional.
So the $500 a month is what the court ordered for the mother to get.
Whatever your issue is as a wife and the money he's bringing in,
you need to supplement with that, hey, you need to get another job,

(07:55):
you need to get a higher paying job, but don't make it about the child for a
one-time instance, which is a pair of shoes.
I would also love to know what the baby mama is doing. Because sometimes we
get in these situations where.
Everybody is so dependent on one or two persons when they're not the only people involved.
So let's say the baby mama is working and she's making a good amount of money, more than him.

(08:16):
Let's say she's making the amount that both of them bringing together is her husband and wife.
Is it still not up to the father to pull his weight in the child's life?
Whatever you choose to do, whatever job you have, that has nothing to do with
me being the child's mother. This is you buying a pair of shoes for your child.
Don't worry about what we're doing over here. No, we got to worry about it.
What you're not going to do is take my $500. Where's your $500?

(08:39):
Because here's the thing. This is what I'm missing. I've been buying the shoes.
All that's fine. All that's fine. But when you're calculating child support,
people tend to forget that child support is the responsibility of both parents.
So somewhere where they calculated that child support, whether she makes more
or less than him, she has an obligation as well. Correct.
Right? So you got his $500, and then she got something, too, you know, to have to pay.

(09:02):
So you're getting the $500. You're taking care of your bills at home,
you know, because it does go toward lights and, you know, gas and water.
But the shoes may not even be a necessity.
The shoes are, I want this, so we can take that out of the scope because it
may not even be a necessity.
Nobody said, my child needs some shoes or the mother's not buying the child shoes.
If that was the case, I'm sure somebody would have said it. I feel like that's what he said.

(09:25):
No, he said, let's look at it. Let's look at it. I feel like he said,
somebody needs some shoes.
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And again, it could be some Walmart shoes, $30. It could be some shoes that

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the child want that's $200.
I just feel like for the wife to get that angry, this is not,
this is your wife we're talking about.
She's not going to be a complete bitch to her husband. That's a big official
fry. She mad because he ain't bringing her what she want. And she's probably
also mad and don't like the baby mama.
So now let me bring, for you to say F that child, you don't like that child.
Although I'm defending the wife or not, she was dead ass wrong for that.

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And I tell my clients all the time when they're in the wrong.
And I think as a husband he needs to be checking her about that because why
would you let anybody talk shit about your child? We would be getting divorced.
Yeah, because who you? You don't give a fuck about my child?
But I ain't on y'all side. I'm defending the wife. All I'm saying is he probably
not have no damn money and she probably help it already and I would be frustrated

(11:38):
too because what you mean you need extra money? I just had to scrape this part up.
She didn't say none of that. She need a different husband.
She need a different husband. He need a different baby mama.
He need a different wife. It's just all fucked up.
The baby mama ain't shit. Because why are you asking me for money on top of
money I'm not giving you? I'm not asking you for nothing. Your child wants shoes.
Well, ask your mama. Ask your mama to get it out the $500 I just sent you.

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Okay, now let me tell y'all something. Now, I have, now this is real talk.
I have a friend who kind of same situation, not nowhere near that same situation,
but anything extra, the father feels like, I pay child support, this is not enough.
Let me tell you something. something your child didn't have braces when that
child support was calculated those braces is an additional 200

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a month we should have to run back down there for the court
to say hey or it may we may not be able to because there may
not be a substantial change or the timing may not be right as far as the two
three year tenure that is a requirement for us to get this change so the child
get braces or needs braces in between this time oh it's in the child support
what the cost of living adjustment is not in the child support we know everything

(12:44):
is inflated what What about that? The child is getting bigger.
What about that? The clothes don't cost the same amount. So that's a lot of
variables and factors that go into this.
And we're a father and mother. Since we laid out and made this child,
should be responsible and mature enough to say, okay, this is not an egregious ask.
We're not asking for you to go buy no Gucci shoes or things of that nature.
A child's part don't factor in prom.

(13:05):
I tell you what. Child's part don't factor in spring break. I tell you what. I tell you what.
Since you're trying to factor in all this stuff, how about you give me $500
and a baby, baby. And I don't have to ask you for shit else.
And guess what I'm going to do? Give him the baby. And guess what I'm going
to do? Since you can't afford to do any motherfucking thing, give him the baby.
And guess what I'm going to do? Because I know it take more than $500.
You know what I'm going to do?

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I'm going to pay them $25 every month to keep me out of jail,
and I'm going to do like y'all doing. I'm going to say, I'm going to see what I can do.
I ain't got it. I got something on it. He'll go half. He'll go 20 on the 250.
I'm going to see and not answer the phone. Y'all call, send in the voicemail.
I'm going to do just like you do. And I ain't going to go to jail,
because guess what? But, Your Honor, I'm doing the best I can. I paid something.

(13:48):
That's all I need to do. I give $25 a month to the state of Georgia.
They don't want me child abandonment. So if y'all want to play them games, take your child.
Somebody got the wrong attorney. Take your child. Your ass going to jail. All right.
Your ass going to jail. By the time y'all find my address to serve me,
the child will be 18. You know how we do. We go from pillow to post.
Come on now. You know it, man. And that map don't go away either.

(14:10):
It's not going to go away. Catch me if you can. We're going to start there.
Let me ask y'all a question because you said something in your conversation
that I think was kind of breezed over.
It said, what if the child asked the dad for these shoes?
And then you said, well, you need to tell them to ask your mom for the child support.
I don't know that I would tell him to ask his mom. You know what I'm saying?

(14:33):
Like that happens a lot. Oh, yeah. But essentially, my oldest son's dad does that.
Ask your mom, my parents' child support. First of all, this is a kid.
I've never told him and never will the shit you didn't do, the shit you have
done that you shouldn't have done.
It's for him to grow up as a man. And that's smart.
These kids are just like we were. You grow up and say, oh, dang,
daddy was married that whole time.

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Oh, daddy had a girlfriend. Oh, you start putting a puzzle together when you
become an adult. Oh, mama was sneaking such and such. That really wasn't my uncle.
So that's not my position to tell my child, your daddy ain't shit, X, Y, Z.
You don't do that to a child because you grow you make them grow up thinking
yeah and you don't know how that's going to affect them so as a young adult

(15:15):
you'll cultivate these images and these.
Memories and these special events and you'll remember who did what so i'm never
going to do that so why would you bring a kid into this saying ask your mom
and that's what i paid you i agree i don't think as i don't think i would ever
advise him to do that essentially that's what the issue shoe is,
though. He needs to be asking his mom.
Let's replay it back and see who said what about the shoes. His mom needs to

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be the one to say, oh, baby, you need some shoes?
Let me get them. Not call your daddy. Why does she have to say that?
Child support is a necessity. It's not extracurricular.
That's a necessity. Yeah, but not a new pair of shoes. It may be a pair of shoes
that you want. You may make good grades. You're not affording that as a kid.
Why would I give you anything outside of what the court already told me I have
to give you? Because that's part of being a parent.
No, it's not. Yes, it is. Part of being a parent is what the court decided.

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If you decided... Hold on. You decided you wanted to take this.
But you're talking to the court.
Yeah, because you decided you wanted to take this. Why am I on child support?
Let's start with that. Your child support is not giving me what I need to make
sure that the child was sustained. We don't know that.
We don't know that. She could have ran to the court just anyway.
We don't know either way, so it could be either one.
It could be either one, but here's the thing. Once the court determined, hey, legally...
This is what you need to give based on your income to support this child all

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the way around. Okay. It stops there.
Why is he a bad guy after that? I don't know what this man is.
It's not that you're a bad guy. I think he's a habit.
You keep throwing it. He clearly has it because he's a habit.
He has it because he's not telling the baby. You think he had it.
Let me tell you. I think he had it. He has it because he's not telling the baby,
mama, I ain't got it. He's arguing with the wife that I do got it and it's what
I want. It's because the wife got something.
It's because the wife got something. The wife would have said,

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this is my money. You ain't got shit. She say after child, she would have clearly
said, nigga, you ain't got no money.
The child probably disrespectful as fuck. And we already know how that go.
She would have said that too. The child probably be talking.
He probably be like, fuck the mama. Fuck the wife.
So really, yeah. We don't know what's going on.
That's just like me as a mother saying, okay, I shouldn't have to do anything
extra outside the scope of necessities and making sure you eat every night.

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So I ain't got to go to Dairy Queen and get you nothing because you made a good grade.
All the courts say I got to do what all society says I have to do is make sure
that your clothes are sheltered and faded.
No, it's not the same. It is the same. The only difference is you're going by
two incomes. As a mother, why would I ever tell my child, I don't have to buy
you no ice cream for making a good grade?
You can tell them that if you wanted to. I mean, you'll be a bitch,
but you wouldn't be wrong. And he would be a bitch if he didn't have a good grade.

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You just made my point. He would be a bitch for telling his child that.
Well, he a bitch then because... He ain't no bitch because he said he going
to get it. Who said they didn't have it?
I feel like this is how... This is your feeling. She would have said it.
Okay, let me ask you this then because I feel like it's your feeling too.
If this man made six figures, do you think the wife would be yapping in the background about $500?
Yeah, because it could be an emotional thing. She don't like to shower on her baby mama.

(17:49):
And that's what it seems like it is. No, the problem here is...
Because these people who make six figures will be cheap as hell.
No, no, no. These people who live above their means, who make $40,000 and they do what they want to do.
And you're talking about the court going on money. People have money every day.
He might sell weed on the side. Man, hell no.
This a whole lot of... I mean, you putting the whole question... Well, that's her fault.
That's the goddamn baby mama fault because what you should have did was make sure all of his income.

(18:12):
All his income was included in those calculations. Now, the calculations...
You asking me how do I know he don't have it. The calculations are telling me
he don't have it. But the issue is he don't have to go with the baby mama.
The baby mama is not the issue. The issue ain't got nothing to do with the baby
mama. The issue is the wife. The wife.
But why is the wife doing that? She don't like the baby mama or the child.
We don't know that. Then why she don't like him? We don't know that.

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He's a good man who's doing extra things for his child and she don't like him.
So she mad because she feel like this taken out of her house. I think she caring.
And guess what? But if you're a real woman, the child should be able to ask
you since you're his wife and you're the stepmama for a pair of shoes.
Let's really get into it. You're definitely not going to ask her shit.
She already said fuck him. Yeah, and guess what? Definitely not going to ask her anything.

(18:54):
I hope he do get the shoes. She should be asked to, but she's not a good guy.
And guess what? If they get kicked out of their damn apartment because the son
needs some more goddamn shoes, then so be it. If you get kicked out of your
apartment for not being able to buy a pair of shoes, you need to get your ass
kicked out of your apartment.
That's fucked up, Jessica. Everybody ain't got it. He do. He's saying he can go do it.
He's saying he can do it. she
the one looking at them bills and she saying we don't fucking have it and

(19:14):
guess what she never said we don't have it she everything else
she said leads anybody to believe they don't have it ain't they not sick we
don't know 100,000 dollars saying you can't have it we don't have to speculate
we don't have to speculate what they have or don't have she got no money man
very vocal person she would have said we don't have it I don't know that play
it again I need to see it again.

(19:37):
Next time we gonna put y'all on the timer okay sorry.
Audience i'd like you to keep in mind that i had a fucked up case
to start off with but i think i and this is what i'll be talking about barter
turning she can argue both sides yeah i mean well here's the thing i don't think

(19:59):
them folks had the money i just don't think they had the money to do it there's
no way you're sitting on all that money and you're just saying yes if I could
talk please without interruption I don't think they would I don't think they would be.
Be so harsh about i don't think the wife would be so harsh about
not being able to to pay for something else if
they had the money to pay for something else i think that's obvious and sometimes

(20:22):
we want we want to squeeze i see it all the time where they want to squeeze
what is it called blood out of tunnel and you just can't do that if the money
is not there it's not there and he's so late i seen what i need to see when
he sat down and started playing the game he gonna cut on the damn the social
media talk shit then go back and start playing the game i don't see what i seen Come on now.
Come on now. She the one handling the finances. If I had to guess what's going

(20:45):
on, she handling the finances.
They don't have the ability to cover that. She's probably covering some shit for them right now.
There's a lot of guessing going on. The issue has nothing to do with the child's mother.
The issue is the wife having a problem with the father buying the child an additional
pair of shoes, whether it's a necessity or a want.
Kids want to participate in extracurricular activities.
Those things may or may not be added into child support. The same way,

(21:08):
if the tenure, if they haven't met the threshold for the years, then they can't.
And who wants to run down there, file a motion, and do all these things?
The person that want more money. Well, guess what?
At the end of the... Am I being interrupted?
My baby told me more, so I'm going to tell her.
Get you home.

(21:30):
Yeah, let me get the Kaya into this thing.
The wife is in her feelings about something that is additional.
It could be the child wants to now participate in basketball.

(21:50):
They need basketball shoes. That's an issue because it's not included in the child support. poor.
She, A, is not a good person the way she spoke about a child.
We're going to start there. Second, she is not a respect.
She's not respectful to her husband and her household.
The third thing is he was lame as hell for jumping on social media.
Stay on social media. Everybody don't need to know your business.

(22:12):
This was too intricate and intimate to have out there that went viral.
But at the end of the day, clearly he felt there was enough funds in his account.
I don't know if they have a joint one or not to buy the shoes.
I don't feel like he was wrong because this This is something that the child is asking for.
This clearly is not something that he's asking for on a regular.
This is not every month I'm asking for a pair of shoes.
This was a one-time instance, and she should respect that.

(22:34):
And as a woman, as a stepmother, if you feel like he doesn't have it,
talk to him about that or go have.
Since you don't have a lot of bills and you got the money, you're making the
most. Or if you feel like he doesn't have any money, go get you a new man.
Why are you supporting the husband?
He should be supporting you. Y'all should be there for one another.
I agree. I don't think he had the money, and I don't think he's conscious of it.

(22:54):
Because the way she started roaring like it was a big deal tells me,
hold on, what you spending money for?
Why would you even be checking your husband about money like that? She's a whore, clearly.
Why would you be checking your husband about money like that?
She's a checker. She likes to check people.
She's a checker. She's a checker. She's got your education.
She likes it because she got your degree. Yeah, she likes it.

(23:15):
Yeah, she likes it. Okay. She's a checker.
Look at this camera over here. So who won? We're asking the audience today who
won that. We would love to hear you guys.
I mean, she would love to hear you guys' thoughts on who won that argument.
And we want to hear your thoughts on the video itself because that one,

(23:37):
I mean, it's just never enough information.
And I run into this problem every single time. We got to start.
We need an investigation team.
We need to just start going deeper into these stories and finding out.
We need to, like, follow up stories. Yes, we need to know what's really happening
because without the other facts, we just over here assuming,
you know, one thing or the other because we don't know. We really don't know. Okay.

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She is so fake. So it was a pleasure being here today.
I really, I thoroughly enjoyed this from beginning to end. It taught me a lot.
I don't know what, but it taught me a lot. I'm sure I'll go back and self-reflect.
But, yeah, this was good. This was good, and I look forward to doing more of these.
And I think the most important thing is finding where you are in life,

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whether it is family court, entrepreneurship,
baby mama, baby daddy drama, wanting to be a wife, being a wife,
being a husband, being a mother, wanting to be a mother.
All these things are important to kind of look at yourself and find out who
you are today, Because who you are today will be who you become in the future.

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And that's more important than anything. Just really finding yourself.
Music.
I think today gave me an opportunity to get out of my shell,
get out of my bed, get out of my head with what I'm going through personally and just be grateful.

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So I have a spirit of gratitude on today. I'm so glad you're here.
And if you guys are looking for me, if you want to talk to me or follow me or
see what I'm posting, it's bullshit.
Shit but miss miss washington m-i-s-s
washington just like the state or the district underscore
m-i-s-s-w-a-s-h-i-n-g-t-o-n underscore

(25:33):
and you will see a lot of fun my kids are on
there we're traveling um cooking talking
about god shaking a little butt every now and then not really but um it's just
real life my page is just full of who i am you got you got to make it to the
close friends My close friends is literally We talk about stuff I talk about

(25:53):
today And I never post in close friends So yeah I'm going to bang this gavel,
And that concludes my day I'm out Thank you
for the opportunity Sound off in the comments Whose side
were you on If you're watching us on YouTube Don't forget to click like and
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to podcasts podcast and if you don't remember anything else I'll leave you with
this let him see that child.