Change is constant—but that doesn’t make it easy.
In this episode, Sangita Kumar and Fong Marcolongo get real about how organizations navigate change, and the messy, human emotions that come with it. From strategic pivots to leadership transitions to cultural shifts, they unpack the tension leaders feel between being transparent and protecting their teams, and the impact of both silence and oversharing.
You’ll hear:
How storytelling builds trust, even when decisions are tough
Why vulnerability must come with boundaries, not fragility
What it means to lead with self-awareness, transparency, and a deep respect for your team’s intelligence
This episode offers practical strategies for managing organizational change without power hoarding, paternalism, or performative “clarity.” If you’re navigating uncertainty and want to lead with integrity and care, this one's for you.
🎧 Tune in now and learn how to hold people and progress at the same time.
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