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Through stories from their equity consulting work—including a gentrifying neighborhood in San Francisco and schools with mismatched staff and student demographics—they reveal how diversity isn't just about who’s at the table, but how the table is set.
They break down:
Why identity diversity brings new ways of thinking—and new challenges
How dominant culture norms can turn differences into perceived conflict
Why diverse teams often struggle without shared values or tools
What it really takes to move from performative to transformative inclusion
If you've ever felt stuck in conversations about representation, struggled with friction on diverse teams, or wondered how to support real equity without burning people out, this episode offers grounded insight, strategy, and hope.
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