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July 3, 2025 34 mins

You’ve invested in the training. You’ve named the values. And yet… problematic behavior persists. Now what?

In this timely and candid episode, Sanita Kumar and Fong Marcolongo tackle a tough and common question in the DEI world: Why doesn’t equity training automatically lead to equity-aligned behavior, and what can we do about it?

They explore:

  • Why training is only one step in a longer change process

  • The three types of staff responses to equity work: aligned, uncertain, and resistant

  • How lack of accountability undermines even the best training investments

  • What leaders must do to shift culture, not just check a box

  • How to break change into small, coachable steps that build trust and long-term impact

Whether you’re a DEI leader, HR professional, or just someone tired of performative gestures with no follow-through, this episode offers clear insight—and real tools—for moving beyond intention and into transformation.

🎧 Tune in now and learn how to make equity work stick—for real.

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