LO AND ORDER

LO AND ORDER

LO AND ORDER dives into the critical issues impacting law enforcement professionals and the communities they protect. Hosted by Lolita Harper, we provide insightful discussions on topics that matter most to our public safety members, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the challenges and triumphs of those who serve.

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March 3, 2026 62 mins

SEBA Chief Executive Officer Lolita Harper sits down with retired San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Sergeant James Snow—woodworker, mentor, and author of The Pivot: A Guide to Moving Forward When the Mission Changes. After a 28½-year career spanning patrol, narcotics, SWAT, traffic, and academy leadership, Snow reflects on what happens when the mission changes and who you are when the badge comes off.

From burnout and over-identifica...

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SEBA Chief Executive Officer Lolita Harper sits down with Nick Tavoukjian, a human performance specialist and current Athletic Trainer embedded at Santa Ana PD through O2X. With decades of experience in injury prevention and performance optimization, Nick breaks down what it really takes to keep law enforcement officers healthy, mobile, and mission-ready.

From pre-academy recruits to 20-year veterans, Nick shares how small, individ...

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SEBA Executive Director Lolita Harper sits down with Deputy Caroline Norat—a 20-year law enforcement veteran and world-class jiu-jitsu athlete who reshaped her life through discipline, consistency, and a deep love for the sport

What started as a personal challenge quickly evolved into a lifestyle. Jiu-jitsu became a source of strength, confidence, and community—fueling Caroline’s success as both a decorated competitor and departmen...

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In this episode of Lo and Order, SEBA Executive Director Lolita Harper sits down with Sgt. Ian “Goldie” Golditch—a Navy veteran, respected San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Sergeant, and owner of Redlands Fit Body Boot Camp—for a powerful, wide-ranging conversation on leadership, fitness, humility, and what it means to truly serve.

From boot camp at age 30 to leading with empathy in uniform, Goldie shares the origin of his work ethic...

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In this episode of Lo and Order, SEBA Executive Director Lolita Harper sits down with renowned labor and defense attorney Michael Schwartz—one of the most respected legal advocates for law enforcement officers across California. Together, they dive deep into due process, legal misconceptions, and the challenges peace officers face in today’s rapidly shifting media landscape.

Schwartz reflects on his early days as a public defender,...

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In this episode of Lo and Order, SEBA Executive Director Lolita Harper sits down with Riverside County Sheriff—and now California gubernatorial candidate—Chad Bianco for a wide-ranging and deeply personal conversation.

From his early days in undercover narcotics to leading one of California’s largest sheriff’s departments, Bianco shares why he’s trading in a “perfect job” to run for governor. With honesty, grit, and candor, he open...

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In this episode of Lo and Order, SEBA Executive Director Lolita Harper sits down with San Bernardino Police Chief Darren Goodman to unpack the heated debate surrounding education mandates in law enforcement.

From his unique journey through USC, Harvard, and beyond, Chief Goodman shares why a college degree shouldn’t be the golden ticket into policing—and how Sacramento’s top-down policies are missing the mark.

Together, they explor...

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In this powerful discussion, San Bernardino County District Attorney Jason Anderson sits down with SEBA Executive Director Lolita Harper to unpack the complexities of the justice system, the challenges of criminal legislation, and how law enforcement and prosecutors can work together to create safer communities.

From the impact of Prop 36 to the future of crime prevention, this is a must-watch conversation for anyone invested in pu...

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The Brief: In this Lo & Order, SEBA Executive Director Lolita Harper dives into the ever-shifting political landscape, using Governor Gavin Newsom as a prime example of why politicians can’t always be trusted. Once a vocal supporter of defunding the police, Newsom has now done a complete 180—denouncing the movement he once championed. But was he ever really on board?

Lolita pulls back the curtain on Sacramento politics, exposin...

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The Brief: Law enforcement has faced years of political weaponization, leaving officers caught in the crossfire of partisan agendas. We're making this message in response to recent press inquiries about preemptive pardons and their impact on law enforcement.

The hypocrisy is exhausting—leaders who once defunded and disrespected police are now pretending to champion law enforcement, using us as a political weapon to attack their opp...

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February 19, 2025 43 mins

On this episode of Lo and Order, we talk to Valerie Vaca, the widow of Sergeant Dominic Vaca. She shares her powerful story of love, loss, and resilience after Dominic was killed in the line of duty on May 31, 2021. 

In this deeply moving conversation, Valerie opens up about the realities of surviving families—the grief, the struggles, and the unwavering commitment to keeping their loved ones’ legacies alive.

She sheds light on the...

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On this episode of Lo and Order, we sit down with San Bernardino County Sheriff Shannon Dicus to discuss critical topics like recruitment and retention in law enforcement, and what we like to call the "BLTs" - beards, load-bearing vests and tattoos. This is LO AND ORDER.

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On this episode of SEBA ON DEMAND, Executive Director Lolita Harper speaks to Attorney & Advocate for First Responders Nicole Castronovo about the negative impact of AB 3070 on California Peace Officers.

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On this episode of SEBA ON DEMAND, Executive Director Lolita Harper speaks to former San Bernardino County Deputy Meagan McCarthy.

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On this episode of SEBA ON DEMAND, Executive Director Lolita Harper talks to 2nd District Supervisor Candidate Jesse Armendarez about public safety and his mission to improve the quality of life in San Bernardino County.

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On this episode of SEBA on Demand we speak to Retired San Bernardino County Sheriff's Captain and Current SEBA Member Brad Toms about life after retirement and his award-winning passion for photography.

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On this episode of SEBA on Demand we speak to San Bernardino County Sheriff's Deputy Todd Johnson who recently saved the life of a baby during a recent incident in Rancho Cucamonga.

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September 30, 2021 8 mins

On this episode of SEBA ON DEMAND, we talk to Corporal Nathan Campos who is the Public Affairs Labor and Education Liaison for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department.

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September 14, 2021 16 mins

On this episode of SEBA ON DEMAND, we talk to newly appointed San Bernardino County Sheriff Shannon Dicus.

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On this episode of SEBA on Demand we speak to San Bernardino County Sheriff's Deputy Robert Jahn in part four of our four-part series that discusses what happens when an officer is shot in the line of duty.

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