August 26, 2025 • 17 mins
It's finally happened... Married At First Sight has become inclusive once again and welcomed a gay couple onto the new season as intruders. Here's everything I know so far, why I'm suss on one of them but also why I'm hopeful they can represent the community.
Check out SoSydney who broke the story and will be posting paparazzi pictures from their wedding.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to the Mathspony podcast with me
Joshua Fox, once again joined by my producer Pedro.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yes, I don't even know why I'm here because I
haven't prepped an eating, I've done no research. I've got
nothing for you.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Why you've got so excited, big breaking, exciting news.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh really?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah? You know, like, can I guess go for it?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You're not gay anymore?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Still gay?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're going on maths.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I would never do that.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, someone from mass maths has reached out to you.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, that happens quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh, okay, okay, what is it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
What's the one thing I've been saying this show needs
to do for years now, but they just don't.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ah, Oh have gay gay partners?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The gays a bac they are. Yeah, you know, like
this week they've been doing the intruder weddings.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And why did I sound so excited about that?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Too much? Excited? Wife's no, yes, so obviously this week
intruder weddings people will have seen on socials. I went
to one in the East the same time there was
one in Woolwich which I posted pictures of where the
bride had to walk barefoot through mud. But then yesterday
I get a message there's another wedding happening at Palm
Beach And you know what, I thought, what that's far too,
(01:07):
Like far away from the beach is quite fine. I
looked on them, like one hour seventeen from my house.
I f I like mathspot, come on, and that's going
through tolls.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Oh god, Yeah, much to my.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Fucking annoyance, it was a gay beach twenty Like the
one thing I would have loved to him. I would
be waving a Pride flag in the background. Because finally
we have gays and you wanted to tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
About them, Sure, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So firstly, we've got and this is all from so Sydney.
I've just read their website. They were the ones on ground.
They're going to post the pat pictures from the website
and they report that the first groom is called Sammy
Stanton from Adelaide, who does a bit of modeling. He's
like he's one of those like muscle gaze we call
them in the gay wood, Like you know, you're looking
at his body's fucking mega.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh yeah, I see, he looks after himself.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, it's funny because like I'm trying to explain the
Gay War two and muscle gaze. But you've got no idea.
But like this, you know, you get like twins and
bears and this and that, Like muscle gay is a
finger and it means like, if you're a muscle gay,
you go to the gym every day and your Instagram
is just shirtless modeling pictures.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I see, I see.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So that's Sammy. But guess who's been matched with?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Who?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
A guy called Chris Robinson from Sydney.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Here a muscle gay.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
He's also because he also like works at a gym
as a pt.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And then is that usually a good thing?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Is it? Is it?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Are they going to be compatible? Does a muscle gay
like a bear or something?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Nah? I reckon there will be good because like they're
both gonna want to wake up at six o'clock on
a Saturday and go to the gym.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What's a bear again? Is it an old guy has
like a big hairy on, Oh, big hairy guy.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, young hairy one's an otter?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So what do I Because I've got a dad bod,
like I've got skinny arms, skinny legs, but a bit
of a gut.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
If you were what do I get? We just called
you a would call you a lost cause are you joking?
Because no one wants that anyway? Back to these two,
is that real? Well, if you popped up on my grinder,
I wouldn't be selling you.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Have you seen worse than me?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm not that bad.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It's because I know your personality. That's that.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
This is forget this podcast. I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Okay, So yeah, good thing. They're both similar interests. Like
it's funny as well in the gay work because people
often say, like, gays go to people who look like
each other. Yep, similar body builds, similar like all that.
So I'm hopeful, except I'm a bit suss on one thing. Okay,
So you know when the show starts and everyone has
to like lock their instagrams, Well, Chris four days ago
(03:30):
made a new Instagram that's now public and it's all
promoting his gym.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh that's the photos.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, that's the screenshop page, which I still open and
like it's like private personal trainer gym located in red
for new so half walls, good vibes and results only,
Like we can argue it's his business, but him making
a whole new business public page. Four days ago before
his wedding. Feels a bit like I all.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Seem to be doing that, aren't they all the contestants
They've got like a business page.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But like to me, I'm like, is he on for
the right reasons? Or they want to promote each jim,
which fair like promote your ship, But it's just the
timing feels a bit like could you have waited a week? Mate? Yeah? Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And what about the other guy?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
His page is locked? Oh okay, yeah, but so Sidney
have somehow got in because the're the ones who have
posted his like first trappy pictures. Yeah okay, but nah,
I just yeah, I wanted to put your on air
because I'm very excited and you've kind of killed that, Joe,
because you're not really matching my energy about this.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well maybe because maybe since you're so involved in the
Maths cast, maybe you can be. Maybe there's a cheating
scandal this year and you're the one that breaks the
marriage up. Maybe you like there's a threesome, because that's
that's kind of up your alley, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Ope, pure Ali could be taking a very different way
to get Also, No, I I want the show to
like treat this couple like every other couple, not play
into gay stereotypes.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh, I have a question, Yeah, I have a question
where you know how they do the grooms parties and
the bride's parties, like you know how they go the
men go to one dell.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I assume this is why they didn't have them at
the start of the season, because they've kind of avoided
the books and Hen's Nights, so now they're just in,
you know, and they avoided Intimacy Week where it is
the girls with Alessandra and then the boys. Yeah. Yeah,
because like it's like they've waited until they got rid
of all the gender things and now they're just two
people on there. But no, you make the joba, you're
(05:20):
making the joke. No, I genuinely hope.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That I wasn't a joke.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Okay, Well, I want this couple to last in a
way because I want to show what we kind of
tried to with the Josh and Stephano that gay couples
like it's just normal. We don't have to play into
these stereotypes and like, oh, one has to be open.
One's that which you you match me with someone whose
job was sleeping with other people, So that we couldn't
have that happy ending.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So do you think though, you know, when it comes
to intimacy week and we saw like this season this year,
that was like.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well we've missed that.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
That was week one?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So they don't want to show the douching and stuff
like that. That's probably why I see they're trying to
keep it clean.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I don't think they would be the douche get you
unless Alessandra had a private one for the gage and
it was like, here's how we do, like we know.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And do you reckon? You know how like you get
a lot of SDI tests quite regularly, and other guys
that I know and you know get done as well.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's because we have more sex.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, that will that be part of the storyline as well.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well. I would assume they were both tested prior to
the show, as I think it's actually a requirement in
the health checks and ship like everyone has to be tested.
And then if they're in a monogamous marriage, which you
would expect given the concept of the show, they won't
need to do further testing because well, hopefully they're only
penetrating each other.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Interesting, I wonder if there will be any of them
where you know how they often gay people want to
convert the straight guy, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So you know the funny thing about doing this chat
with you, Oh yeah, is you're essentially the reason there's
been no gay people for three years, because you're the
can straight viewer who's asked every single stereo or are
they going to do? Are they going to try to
convert people? Are you going to have a free time?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, what if one of the gay guys likes one
of the straight guys and he's very fluid like that,
that happens.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
But that's exactly the same saying what if one of
the group the straight grooms like someone else's wife.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It's but we know that already happens and we've seen it.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, but like that whole thing about like, oh when
straight guys have this mindset, oh, gay guys just want
to convert us. Trust me, we don't. And also we
don't want to convert people. There's enough hot gay people
out there without having to chase people.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Like yeah, well then why some a gay guy told
me that they're like always.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Like, oh yeah, we want to convert them, you know,
like it's the thrill whatever. Growing up gay and often
in the closet. You kind of like often will fantasize like, oh,
the straight guy, like it was so crazy to get
my straight guy. I see, but like the amount of
self proclaimed straight men I've been with, and then when
it gets down to it, it's like, Okay, what we're
(07:59):
doing is not straight at all, Like you might be
going home to our wife, which you're probably lyaring about. Yeah,
but like you know that's but anyway, so wrap this.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh yeah, Chris show. Yeah, I'm learning. I'm learning.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I'm hopeful they do it like a good match. I'm
hopeful this show doesn't like exploit like stupid storylines and
stereotypes like who's the top, who's the bottom?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Who's do you know? That would be great?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
No, Like I just want them to be treated like no.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But I'll tell you why because from an audience like that,
haven't like I'm pretty open about this stuff. Because you
talk about this ship every day. I get it. But
when I before I knew any gay people, I didn't know.
I didn't even know top or bottom existed. But so
what I'm trying to say is if they do go
(08:43):
down these storylines, it's a good education for people that
don't necessarily, but you know about it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That's there's some that's something straight people don't need educating
them because, for example, when there's a straight couple on
the show and then after their first night together, like
the producers of and say, oh, did you did you
get intimate? And they might go, oh, we've consummated it.
We as viewers don't then go did you lock her out?
Or did she sit you up? Like we don't.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I mean I would like to know now, but like
we don't then have.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
To ask details what we gay people. It's like, well,
you're intimate, yeah, and then it seems like this like
everyone's old this explanation, Well who's the top, who's the bottom? Movie?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well what about it?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Did you see? What I'm trying to say, Like the
way people approach gay relationships is like we would never
ask a straight couple eye you had sex? Was it
vaginal or was it.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I understand, I understand, but I mean that does get asked.
Vaginal ainal does get usked these days. But even just
like what you taught me before, just about the the
Twinks and the bears.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Like that's I think that's interesting, yeah, because that's not
really intrusive. So they can touch upon things like that,
but like when it comes to like the personal section
less day off of that up, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Question for you do you reckon? Wasn't there a gay
couple many years ago in maths?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
There was one Steven Michael. I think, like you know
what happened, Like they were just not a good match,
like just not compatible, but they just left. Oh, they
just weren't on there for very long. A few years
earlier there was a lesbian coupled Tash and Amanda I
don't remember that, like, and they kind of played into
stereotypes because Amanda was more like your masculine she like
(10:18):
did a bodybuilding I think, and Tash was more of like,
I don't want to say, a lipstick lesbian, I think
that's what they say, but a bit more like you're feminine.
So again they were they were playing into these stereotypes,
whereas at least with this just from the pictures on
so Sydney and people go check them out. But like,
at least there's these two people that look like they
could work and they're compatible. So that's why I don't
(10:40):
want to be like focusing on the stupid who's the top,
who's the bottom. Who's this Like you open like.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, it's maths, bro, So I'm sure you can expect
something even worse than whatever you're talking about, now, don't
you think.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, And that's what kind of like, that's what I'm
not apprehensive about. But I just feel like for the community,
mass is the opportunity to do something good and we
both know they're not good at but like we can
at least hold on to that one percent.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
All right, Well, good luck to them. Hopefully they hit
it off. Hopefully they're not on Grinder a day after
they get married.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Oh maybe I should go outside the building and do
weekly checks.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh, grind, like because you can what you can. It's
it's like a radius of where you are.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, Grinder. It operates like the grid is on location.
So the first person that you might be twelve meters
and twenty meters and fight like no people like in
the building next year, Like sometimes I've had it when
I've been when I lived in London, like huge apartment buildings,
someone's zero meters away. He's the other side of the world.
The next bedroom.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's when he should have distored a glory hole.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh okay, that joke didn't go down well, no.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
We actually had one downstairs, did you did you know?
Actually probably off topic to end this, I suppos going
because it's the gay sex chat. When Stefano and I
broke up the first time. Yeah, I do you remember?
We did an event with a client, a live podcast
record that evening. Yeah, And then I drove back to
(12:07):
mine and I had to drive through Bondai And that
was the day after we broke up. And I was
obviously very sad that day, to the point that someone
in the pub at that event came up and went, oh, Josh,
you look so sad. I was like, okay, well I'm
not hiding this very well. Then I go home even sider,
and then I have to drive past Stefano's place. It's
just on the main road and all these lights thrown
at night, so I could see him sat on his
(12:28):
desk looking side. I was at the traffic lights, literally outside,
waiting to turn and a for what Should I just
get out? Should I just is this all a mistake?
Should I just pull up go and give him a hug?
And just I don't know. Try then I find no,
because all the issues why we won't work like whatever,
and then I get home and then I start crying. Okay, thanks,
(12:49):
And then I did what I used to always do
when I was sat and heart broken, well, going on
around render.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And then I saw that in the month step and
when I been together, a new glory hole it opened
in Bondai.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well does it actually that actually exists?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
There was a guy in a house. It's like a duplex,
is it. He had the bottom half and he's just
like the name was a non glory hole. And then
I thought I didn't have a face picture on Grinder
because like the series was still with stepping out everywhere
every gay person was following it. Yeh, And I thought,
I don't want to be seen on Grinder. But my
only way to kind of deal with heartbreaking anything was
just to have sex with stranger get to the glory. Yeah.
(13:30):
So then there's this. The picture of the grinder is
just like it's a bed sheet erected in the hallway
like they've clamped it. Well, they've been to bunnings like
shower poles top and bottom, like it fit the space. Well.
A message that what's the go hair full a non
discreete gloryhole blow job. Here's the address? Tell me, what time,
and you just the front doors unlocked. You just open
(13:51):
it and then it's like a long corridor into the house.
But at the end of the corridor was this erected
like bed sheet covering the whole thing. So yeah, and
you can't see the other side. And he did a
great job clumping it like it was tight every corner,
like it wasn't flimsy. And then you just do you speak?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Do you know anything about this person?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It could have been you on the other side. It
could have been a woman, no, because I could feel
like a rough of facial hair.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, or maybe a Greek woman.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
So stupid, but yeah, as I was like, then I
put my penis through that hole. And then I was
like still had hold on to like you don't that's
the awkward thing. And I'm trying to get to the
sad fit as he's tears in my eyes thinking of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Oh my god, I.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Didn't even finish, and I went sorry and I went
soft and just left and cried like I've got tears
in my eyes. Now that's fucking crazy, Like I literally
cried telling you this stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I'm sorry, sorry, I don't care about your emotions. I'm
still stuck. I'm still stuck on the Gloriole.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, well it's a local hot spot.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So how many people, how many blokes you wrecking going
in one day?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I can't tell you. But I did have this fascinating
ideas or they just sit outside for an hour and
just see, like oh yeah, but like I'm not gonna
do that because it's discreet, but like it's just like
I don't know, and it's funny because like everyone else
on that is like a popular street and bond night
rich people. Yeah, they'd have no idea. They might a
lot of people in and out of this house lately,
They've got no idea what's happening behind that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I would love to know who it is. Maybe we
should offer these person one thousand dollars to come forward.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
But it's just a random gay guy. Yeah, I just
want to in the gay world. And this sounds like
bad to say and maybe a bit shallow, But often
the people that do things like this and like a
discreet like that is maybe because the gay world is
so superficial and like appearance or so if you're not
like the muscle gay, the one who you know everything, cause.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Like me, maybe maybe someone like me is the one.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That's kind of it either that or they're just really
into that like fetish, but like I'm like on grind
as well, you'll often get things like doors open and
on I'm just bent over and it's a dark house,
window lights, and then you don't even see the face
in question.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Right when you rocked up, there was there ever a like,
how do you know you've got to put your penis
in the hole? Why didn't the guy put his penis
out the hole? And then you would you know.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
If someone set up a glory hele, it's because they're
the the socker, No, the socker yeah, yeah, I don't
know the word.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, the pleasure off.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, they're the one who wants to do that. Okay,
it'd be weird for me to go to someone's house.
And then you're like, okay, this has gone on longer
than it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
What a great podcast, What a good story. I cried,
We should go into a story. We should go and
do something there at the Glory help. Maybe we should
take one of the new maths rooms there.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well, no, we're trying to get this coupled the last.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh yeah, true.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Okay, all right, well I'm gonna go draw my hat.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, I didn't acknowledge your crying once I was just
intrigued in the story.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Goodbye, bye,
Hello, and welcome back to the Mathspony podcast with me
Joshua Fox, once again joined by my producer Pedro.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yes, I don't even know why I'm here because I
haven't prepped an eating, I've done no research. I've got
nothing for you.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Why you've got so excited, big breaking, exciting news.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh really?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah? You know, like, can I guess go for it?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You're not gay anymore?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Still gay?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're going on maths.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I would never do that.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, someone from mass maths has reached out to you.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, that happens quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh, okay, okay, what is it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
What's the one thing I've been saying this show needs
to do for years now, but they just don't.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ah, Oh have gay gay partners?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The gays a bac they are. Yeah, you know, like
this week they've been doing the intruder weddings.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And why did I sound so excited about that?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Too much? Excited? Wife's no, yes, so obviously this week
intruder weddings people will have seen on socials. I went
to one in the East the same time there was
one in Woolwich which I posted pictures of where the
bride had to walk barefoot through mud. But then yesterday
I get a message there's another wedding happening at Palm
Beach And you know what, I thought, what that's far too,
(01:07):
Like far away from the beach is quite fine. I
looked on them, like one hour seventeen from my house.
I f I like mathspot, come on, and that's going
through tolls.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Oh god, Yeah, much to my.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Fucking annoyance, it was a gay beach twenty Like the
one thing I would have loved to him. I would
be waving a Pride flag in the background. Because finally
we have gays and you wanted to tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
About them, Sure, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So firstly, we've got and this is all from so Sydney.
I've just read their website. They were the ones on ground.
They're going to post the pat pictures from the website
and they report that the first groom is called Sammy
Stanton from Adelaide, who does a bit of modeling. He's
like he's one of those like muscle gaze we call
them in the gay wood, Like you know, you're looking
at his body's fucking mega.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh yeah, I see, he looks after himself.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, it's funny because like I'm trying to explain the
Gay War two and muscle gaze. But you've got no idea.
But like this, you know, you get like twins and
bears and this and that, Like muscle gay is a
finger and it means like, if you're a muscle gay,
you go to the gym every day and your Instagram
is just shirtless modeling pictures.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I see, I see.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So that's Sammy. But guess who's been matched with?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Who?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
A guy called Chris Robinson from Sydney.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Here a muscle gay.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
He's also because he also like works at a gym
as a pt.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And then is that usually a good thing?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Is it? Is it?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Are they going to be compatible? Does a muscle gay
like a bear or something?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Nah? I reckon there will be good because like they're
both gonna want to wake up at six o'clock on
a Saturday and go to the gym.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What's a bear again? Is it an old guy has
like a big hairy on, Oh, big hairy guy.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, young hairy one's an otter?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So what do I Because I've got a dad bod,
like I've got skinny arms, skinny legs, but a bit
of a gut.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
If you were what do I get? We just called
you a would call you a lost cause are you joking?
Because no one wants that anyway? Back to these two,
is that real? Well, if you popped up on my grinder,
I wouldn't be selling you.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Have you seen worse than me?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm not that bad.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It's because I know your personality. That's that.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
This is forget this podcast. I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Okay, So yeah, good thing. They're both similar interests. Like
it's funny as well in the gay work because people
often say, like, gays go to people who look like
each other. Yep, similar body builds, similar like all that.
So I'm hopeful, except I'm a bit suss on one thing. Okay,
So you know when the show starts and everyone has
to like lock their instagrams, Well, Chris four days ago
(03:30):
made a new Instagram that's now public and it's all
promoting his gym.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh that's the photos.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, that's the screenshop page, which I still open and
like it's like private personal trainer gym located in red
for new so half walls, good vibes and results only,
Like we can argue it's his business, but him making
a whole new business public page. Four days ago before
his wedding. Feels a bit like I all.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Seem to be doing that, aren't they all the contestants
They've got like a business page.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But like to me, I'm like, is he on for
the right reasons? Or they want to promote each jim,
which fair like promote your ship, But it's just the
timing feels a bit like could you have waited a week? Mate? Yeah? Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And what about the other guy?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
His page is locked? Oh okay, yeah, but so Sidney
have somehow got in because the're the ones who have
posted his like first trappy pictures. Yeah okay, but nah,
I just yeah, I wanted to put your on air
because I'm very excited and you've kind of killed that, Joe,
because you're not really matching my energy about this.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well maybe because maybe since you're so involved in the
Maths cast, maybe you can be. Maybe there's a cheating
scandal this year and you're the one that breaks the
marriage up. Maybe you like there's a threesome, because that's
that's kind of up your alley, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Ope, pure Ali could be taking a very different way
to get Also, No, I I want the show to
like treat this couple like every other couple, not play
into gay stereotypes.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh, I have a question, Yeah, I have a question
where you know how they do the grooms parties and
the bride's parties, like you know how they go the
men go to one dell.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I assume this is why they didn't have them at
the start of the season, because they've kind of avoided
the books and Hen's Nights, so now they're just in,
you know, and they avoided Intimacy Week where it is
the girls with Alessandra and then the boys. Yeah. Yeah,
because like it's like they've waited until they got rid
of all the gender things and now they're just two
people on there. But no, you make the joba, you're
(05:20):
making the joke. No, I genuinely hope.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That I wasn't a joke.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Okay, Well, I want this couple to last in a
way because I want to show what we kind of
tried to with the Josh and Stephano that gay couples
like it's just normal. We don't have to play into
these stereotypes and like, oh, one has to be open.
One's that which you you match me with someone whose
job was sleeping with other people, So that we couldn't
have that happy ending.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So do you think though, you know, when it comes
to intimacy week and we saw like this season this year,
that was like.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well we've missed that.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
That was week one?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So they don't want to show the douching and stuff
like that. That's probably why I see they're trying to
keep it clean.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I don't think they would be the douche get you
unless Alessandra had a private one for the gage and
it was like, here's how we do, like we know.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And do you reckon? You know how like you get
a lot of SDI tests quite regularly, and other guys
that I know and you know get done as well.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's because we have more sex.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, that will that be part of the storyline as well.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well. I would assume they were both tested prior to
the show, as I think it's actually a requirement in
the health checks and ship like everyone has to be tested.
And then if they're in a monogamous marriage, which you
would expect given the concept of the show, they won't
need to do further testing because well, hopefully they're only
penetrating each other.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Interesting, I wonder if there will be any of them
where you know how they often gay people want to
convert the straight guy, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So you know the funny thing about doing this chat
with you, Oh yeah, is you're essentially the reason there's
been no gay people for three years, because you're the
can straight viewer who's asked every single stereo or are
they going to do? Are they going to try to
convert people? Are you going to have a free time?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, what if one of the gay guys likes one
of the straight guys and he's very fluid like that,
that happens.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
But that's exactly the same saying what if one of
the group the straight grooms like someone else's wife.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It's but we know that already happens and we've seen it.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, but like that whole thing about like, oh when
straight guys have this mindset, oh, gay guys just want
to convert us. Trust me, we don't. And also we
don't want to convert people. There's enough hot gay people
out there without having to chase people.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Like yeah, well then why some a gay guy told
me that they're like always.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Like, oh yeah, we want to convert them, you know,
like it's the thrill whatever. Growing up gay and often
in the closet. You kind of like often will fantasize like, oh,
the straight guy, like it was so crazy to get
my straight guy. I see, but like the amount of
self proclaimed straight men I've been with, and then when
it gets down to it, it's like, Okay, what we're
(07:59):
doing is not straight at all, Like you might be
going home to our wife, which you're probably lyaring about. Yeah,
but like you know that's but anyway, so wrap this.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh yeah, Chris show. Yeah, I'm learning. I'm learning.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I'm hopeful they do it like a good match. I'm
hopeful this show doesn't like exploit like stupid storylines and
stereotypes like who's the top, who's the bottom?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Who's do you know? That would be great?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
No, Like I just want them to be treated like no.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But I'll tell you why because from an audience like that,
haven't like I'm pretty open about this stuff. Because you
talk about this ship every day. I get it. But
when I before I knew any gay people, I didn't know.
I didn't even know top or bottom existed. But so
what I'm trying to say is if they do go
(08:43):
down these storylines, it's a good education for people that
don't necessarily, but you know about it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That's there's some that's something straight people don't need educating
them because, for example, when there's a straight couple on
the show and then after their first night together, like
the producers of and say, oh, did you did you
get intimate? And they might go, oh, we've consummated it.
We as viewers don't then go did you lock her out?
Or did she sit you up? Like we don't.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I mean I would like to know now, but like
we don't then have.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
To ask details what we gay people. It's like, well,
you're intimate, yeah, and then it seems like this like
everyone's old this explanation, Well who's the top, who's the bottom? Movie?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well what about it?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Did you see? What I'm trying to say, Like the
way people approach gay relationships is like we would never
ask a straight couple eye you had sex? Was it
vaginal or was it.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I understand, I understand, but I mean that does get asked.
Vaginal ainal does get usked these days. But even just
like what you taught me before, just about the the
Twinks and the bears.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Like that's I think that's interesting, yeah, because that's not
really intrusive. So they can touch upon things like that,
but like when it comes to like the personal section
less day off of that up, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Question for you do you reckon? Wasn't there a gay
couple many years ago in maths?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
There was one Steven Michael. I think, like you know
what happened, Like they were just not a good match,
like just not compatible, but they just left. Oh, they
just weren't on there for very long. A few years
earlier there was a lesbian coupled Tash and Amanda I
don't remember that, like, and they kind of played into
stereotypes because Amanda was more like your masculine she like
(10:18):
did a bodybuilding I think, and Tash was more of like,
I don't want to say, a lipstick lesbian, I think
that's what they say, but a bit more like you're feminine.
So again they were they were playing into these stereotypes,
whereas at least with this just from the pictures on
so Sydney and people go check them out. But like,
at least there's these two people that look like they
could work and they're compatible. So that's why I don't
(10:40):
want to be like focusing on the stupid who's the top,
who's the bottom. Who's this Like you open like.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, it's maths, bro, So I'm sure you can expect
something even worse than whatever you're talking about, now, don't
you think.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, And that's what kind of like, that's what I'm
not apprehensive about. But I just feel like for the community,
mass is the opportunity to do something good and we
both know they're not good at but like we can
at least hold on to that one percent.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
All right, Well, good luck to them. Hopefully they hit
it off. Hopefully they're not on Grinder a day after
they get married.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Oh maybe I should go outside the building and do
weekly checks.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh, grind, like because you can what you can. It's
it's like a radius of where you are.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, Grinder. It operates like the grid is on location.
So the first person that you might be twelve meters
and twenty meters and fight like no people like in
the building next year, Like sometimes I've had it when
I've been when I lived in London, like huge apartment buildings,
someone's zero meters away. He's the other side of the world.
The next bedroom.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's when he should have distored a glory hole.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh okay, that joke didn't go down well, no.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
We actually had one downstairs, did you did you know?
Actually probably off topic to end this, I suppos going
because it's the gay sex chat. When Stefano and I
broke up the first time. Yeah, I do you remember?
We did an event with a client, a live podcast
record that evening. Yeah, And then I drove back to
(12:07):
mine and I had to drive through Bondai And that
was the day after we broke up. And I was
obviously very sad that day, to the point that someone
in the pub at that event came up and went, oh, Josh,
you look so sad. I was like, okay, well I'm
not hiding this very well. Then I go home even sider,
and then I have to drive past Stefano's place. It's
just on the main road and all these lights thrown
at night, so I could see him sat on his
(12:28):
desk looking side. I was at the traffic lights, literally outside,
waiting to turn and a for what Should I just
get out? Should I just is this all a mistake?
Should I just pull up go and give him a hug?
And just I don't know. Try then I find no,
because all the issues why we won't work like whatever,
and then I get home and then I start crying. Okay, thanks,
(12:49):
And then I did what I used to always do
when I was sat and heart broken, well, going on
around render.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And then I saw that in the month step and
when I been together, a new glory hole it opened
in Bondai.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well does it actually that actually exists?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
There was a guy in a house. It's like a duplex,
is it. He had the bottom half and he's just
like the name was a non glory hole. And then
I thought I didn't have a face picture on Grinder
because like the series was still with stepping out everywhere
every gay person was following it. Yeh, And I thought,
I don't want to be seen on Grinder. But my
only way to kind of deal with heartbreaking anything was
just to have sex with stranger get to the glory. Yeah.
(13:30):
So then there's this. The picture of the grinder is
just like it's a bed sheet erected in the hallway
like they've clamped it. Well, they've been to bunnings like
shower poles top and bottom, like it fit the space. Well.
A message that what's the go hair full a non
discreete gloryhole blow job. Here's the address? Tell me, what time,
and you just the front doors unlocked. You just open
(13:51):
it and then it's like a long corridor into the house.
But at the end of the corridor was this erected
like bed sheet covering the whole thing. So yeah, and
you can't see the other side. And he did a
great job clumping it like it was tight every corner,
like it wasn't flimsy. And then you just do you speak?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Do you know anything about this person?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It could have been you on the other side. It
could have been a woman, no, because I could feel
like a rough of facial hair.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, or maybe a Greek woman.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
So stupid, but yeah, as I was like, then I
put my penis through that hole. And then I was
like still had hold on to like you don't that's
the awkward thing. And I'm trying to get to the
sad fit as he's tears in my eyes thinking of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Oh my god, I.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Didn't even finish, and I went sorry and I went
soft and just left and cried like I've got tears
in my eyes. Now that's fucking crazy, Like I literally
cried telling you this stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I'm sorry, sorry, I don't care about your emotions. I'm
still stuck. I'm still stuck on the Gloriole.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, well it's a local hot spot.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So how many people, how many blokes you wrecking going
in one day?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I can't tell you. But I did have this fascinating
ideas or they just sit outside for an hour and
just see, like oh yeah, but like I'm not gonna
do that because it's discreet, but like it's just like
I don't know, and it's funny because like everyone else
on that is like a popular street and bond night
rich people. Yeah, they'd have no idea. They might a
lot of people in and out of this house lately,
They've got no idea what's happening behind that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I would love to know who it is. Maybe we
should offer these person one thousand dollars to come forward.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
But it's just a random gay guy. Yeah, I just
want to in the gay world. And this sounds like
bad to say and maybe a bit shallow, But often
the people that do things like this and like a
discreet like that is maybe because the gay world is
so superficial and like appearance or so if you're not
like the muscle gay, the one who you know everything, cause.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Like me, maybe maybe someone like me is the one.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That's kind of it either that or they're just really
into that like fetish, but like I'm like on grind
as well, you'll often get things like doors open and
on I'm just bent over and it's a dark house,
window lights, and then you don't even see the face
in question.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Right when you rocked up, there was there ever a like,
how do you know you've got to put your penis
in the hole? Why didn't the guy put his penis
out the hole? And then you would you know.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
If someone set up a glory hele, it's because they're
the the socker, No, the socker yeah, yeah, I don't
know the word.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, the pleasure off.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, they're the one who wants to do that. Okay,
it'd be weird for me to go to someone's house.
And then you're like, okay, this has gone on longer
than it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
What a great podcast, What a good story. I cried,
We should go into a story. We should go and
do something there at the Glory help. Maybe we should
take one of the new maths rooms there.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well, no, we're trying to get this coupled the last.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh yeah, true.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Okay, all right, well I'm gonna go draw my hat.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, I didn't acknowledge your crying once I was just
intrigued in the story.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Goodbye, bye,
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