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October 28, 2025 16 mins

Hello friends, there's a few big updates from the Married At First Sight world to bring you across this week, including:  The problem with Nine's new spin-off show, which former stars are returning to reality TV on rival networks and who is Jessika Power having drama with?

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to the MATHSNY podcast with Me,
Joshua Fox and guys. There has been an unlikely resurrection
of former Married at First Site cast members landing pretty
big new TV shows that will soon see them returning
to the spotlight, not just in Australia but on a
global scale. For one Bride in particular, who's going to

(00:21):
be flying the flag for down Under internationally? And I
also have news of Jessica Power's bizarre new feud with
one much beloved Australian actor that I guarantee none of
you saw coming. But before that, a week or so ago,
Channel nine announced a brand new Math spin off show
that is coming this January to run alongside the upcoming

(00:43):
twenty twenty six season. But what they didn't mention in
their press release is the huge dilemma behind the scenes
about this show and the past attempts to make it
work and why they were canceled. Over the last week
or so, you may have seen some articles floating around

(01:03):
online with this press release.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Attached, and I'm going to read it to you now.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Nine today have announced it will continue the nation's biggest
Conversation with the groundbreaking new stan original series.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Maths after the Dinner Party.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Maths after the Dinner Party is set to become the
must watch destination for every Maths fan. Firstly, side note,
that's this podcast, Thank you very much. Anyway, back to
this press release voice. I'm doing streaming exclusively on STAN,
which I should point out here is owned by Channel nine,
so don't expect any rogue shit and they're calling out

(01:38):
the network or producers because you know the stand is
owned by nine. The series will air weekly immediately following
each explosive Married at First Sight dinner party on Channel
nine and nine now picking up right where the drama
left off and delving into this week.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
This sounds like chat GTP.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I'm not gonna lie, sorry, delving into the week's most
hogged about moments. This series is the ultimate hub for fans,
providing an exclusive invitation into the.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Maths in a circle.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
The show will feature participation, interviews, exclusive behind the scenes footage,
expert analysis.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And even fan commentary and not the fan commentary. Fucking
count Stan.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
You're spoiling us nine Managing director Amanda Leang Liang Sorry, Amanda,
I don't know how to say your surname said. Married
at First Sight is a cultural joggernaut and the conversation
on obsession around it is part of the magic. Well, Amanda,
you don't have to tell me I have a hope
podcast around that this series will be the ultimate post

(02:48):
and can they stop saying this is the new place
to go because it's this podcast? Thank you very much, Amanda.
This series will be the ultimate post dinner debrief offering
our subscribers and exclusive, if unfiltered, unmissible and chat GTP
written companion that extends the Maths experience in a way

(03:08):
that has never been done before. You will not want
to miss it anyway. So the issue here is there's
a few things. As STAN is owned by Channel nine,
as I just pointed out, how unfiltered can we expect
this to be? Because like the biggest off show drama
each year that we're now used to and we love
is basically cast members calling out production.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
But I can't see.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Like a nine own platform allowing that to happen. So
then it's like this new show is going to scale
down the type of drama wh're now used to expect.
And also when that boss of Channel nine said that
this has never been done before, she's obviously forgetting that
this has been done before, and some of you may
remember the former spinoff show Talking Married, which was a

(03:54):
panel show that ran on nine hour nine Go or
nine Life or nine side Chat to whatever the main
channel is from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen after the
dinner parties each week, and this was hosted by Shelley Horton,
who actually likes Shelley. She seems like a nice lady.
I follow on Instagram, gives fans and I'm quoting the
bio from that show behind the scenes footage, exclusive cast

(04:16):
interviews and more, which sounds like the description for the
new show without all the big chat GTP words, chat
chat GPT, I always say it wrong anyway, Sorry, I
don't know why I'm going all AI this episode. But
back then Talking Married was seen as a success, like
it rated well, it was popular, but it was then

(04:37):
abruptly canceled because and I quote TV black Box here,
it was act due to the concerns for the mental
health of Maths participants.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
And if you're wondering what that means, well.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
This is basically what happened back then with Talking Married
and Maths in general. So as the show became bigger
and bigger each season. Talking married was like Nine's ways
to keep the drama going and also the ad revenue
you rolling in by immediately after a big episode, you know,
the dinner party every week they'd have whoever was in
the firing line that week doing a live interview and

(05:09):
like reading viewer comments and stuff literally seconds after you know,
the big episode has aired, when emotions are heightened and
everyone is riled up, and you know that makes sense
as a show, like everyone's talking about this, how can
we squeeze more out of it? And you know, it's
what I do on this podcast. It's what every radio
show does when they booked the cast on, like we

(05:30):
all want to keep the conversations going. But the issue
for nine was they were the ones kind of causing
the backlash for these people in the first place, with
how like the show had been put together, how things
had been edited, perhaps out of context, and like nine
always knew what was coming and who was going to
be hated when like they basically have like a calendar

(05:51):
and a storyboard of Okay, this week, this person's going
to be despised. This week, this person should probably leave
the country. So to then like be putting these people
back in the firing line live in the minutes after,
like something huge has happened on screens, and like those
cast members are like reliving whatever while their phones are
blowing up with hate comments and death threats and reactions.

(06:14):
Like that is a lot to put these people through,
because you've got to remember, I know they're Maths cast members,
but they film this show, they then go home and
wait six months for it to air. Often in that
six months they think, oh, it wasn't that bad. I'm
not going to be that hated, Like, surely it won't
be edited too.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Bad against me.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Obviously they're all very naive because it then is so
then to relive that in the moment is one thing,
but then to be put on the spotlight live seconds
afterwards by the network here have caused that, Like.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
It feels a bit like are you pushing these people
too far? And the final straw for talking married was
in twenty nineteen in their like last episode of the season,
which ran alongside the cast reunion of that year's season,
and it's when they had Jessica Power and Dane web
on and like the questions Shelley and the other journalists

(07:05):
I think it was Ben Foden were asking Jason. Dan
basically led to them just breaking up live on out
and having.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
A huge fight. Like listen to how uncomfortable this is.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
But so you've just listened to Dan and he's just
said you would die with the line You've maintained this
whole time that you didn't hit on Nick, and then
just now you're saying, and I did hit.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
On him, And that's the first time she's admitted it
to me as well.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Watching it back back, like I'm looking back on it,
it looks like I did hit on him, and that's
what everybody here wants me to seem to admit. So yeah,
I'll admit it. I'm admitting it for Dan. I don't
feel like I did. But you know, it's obviously what
Dan wants to hear.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's not what I want to do. It is what
you want to you just said on national television.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Next question, Dan.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I'm not a mind reader, but I think it's pretty
clear to anyone looking at the body language at the moment,
you seem like you are over this, You seem you
want out.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Am I wrong? Yeah, look, you're right, you are probably wrong.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I definitely wouldn't say I want out, But then one
little negative like last night or tonight, it's episodes can
just rise so much doubt, and then articles here and
articles there. Just it just creates so much negativity and
toxicity in our relationship, It really does.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Doesn't do you feel that you are.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
You gonna answer Dan's question? Jess?

Speaker 5 (08:26):
I just I don't think this is a conversation were
you'd be.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Having on air now.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Don't get me wrong, the questions they were asking Jess
and Dan were valid. You know that Shelley and the
ones on the panel, a journalist and every fan wanted
these answers. But the moral question, I suppose Channel nine
bosses faced themselves in the in the aftermath of that,
when Yess was not doing very well particular. I know
that because funnily enough, minutes after that interview ed that night,

(08:52):
when she was like, what the fuck is just happened?
She just broke up me Dan live across the country.
She was texting me like, WHOA, that was a lot
because I'd connected Regest during that series. That was a
series I launched the mass Funny Instagram page, and yeah,
like I suppose for Channel nine in the aftermath of that,
which was heavy and intense and a lot for Jess

(09:12):
in particular to deal with Channel nine kind of had
to ask themselves, like how far can we as a
network push these people? Like whatever happens on the show
is one thing, because that was all filmed, but to
then like be the ones facilitating moments that they know
will cause even more distress. This is like when the

(09:32):
decision I believe was made to acts Talking Marriage and
it did briefly return in twenty twenty as an online
only thing, and each episode was then pre recorded way
in advance, you know, to avoid pushing the cast too
far or pressuring them or causing more distress. And like
they did one season of that pre recorded because it
just didn't work and it didn't.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Have the same effect.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Since then, there hasn't really been anything else like this
from nine because essentially, every year as the show has
reached into extremes, the cast just become more and more
out spoken on their own. So like nine giving them
a live platform to kind of poke them into reliving
drama again, I suppose it's just been too risky. Like
think now, like last year, you've got Jackie doing a

(10:13):
TikTok live every day, everyone's making second instagrams just to
say everything spilled, all all the behind the scenes stuff
producing manipulation, like basically everything that nine and the producers
don't want us viewers to know. We now know because
every year the cast just go rogue and the cast
members doing that, I suppose has led to the success
of podcasts like mine, because I'm not bound to stick

(10:35):
into narratives dictated by Channel nine that may often skew
the facts a little bit. So like when cast members
speak to me or other podcasts, they'll do Breakfast Radio
or just go and TikTok live. They can essentially say
what they want, and that's often all they want, like
the freedom to give their side of whatever has happened
away from the network and in a way where their

(10:55):
words are not going to be.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Edited or twisted.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Sorry, and I'm going to be rambling off script now,
and like, don't get me wrong, I'm stoked for this show.
Like the more content the better. In my opinion, I suppose,
I'm just curious. Firstly, can this spin off show actually
deliver something unmissible and unfiltered in the way that we,
as the viewers are now accustomed to. As I say,
there's a certain level of rogue we now expect, and

(11:21):
if it's just them doing a fluffy interview going god, yeah,
that was a crazy week, garded like, yeah, I'm glad
I spoke up on called this person a bitch, called
that guy a foot boy. Like, to me, that's not
really drama, that's just a fluffy conversation like that's that's
like an a pr spin essentially, And then you probably
got John Aken next to him going yeah, we really
tested them this week. Uh, Like to me, that's not

(11:42):
unmissible or unfiltered, that's just boring, and on that. Then
the other thing I'm curious about as well, if they
are able to deliver something unmissible and unfiltered, how will
they do this as a network whilst still maintaining that
they're protecting the participants' mental health, Because, for example, say
you get a cast member on who's just had a
hectic dinner party episode and she was the center of drama.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
She's either going to come on and call out production.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
And the network and say this isn't what happened, which
I suppose this new show will not allow. So therefore
she's going to do the opposite and call out whoever
she's just had a fight with, which is then the
network adding to that other persons, the distress you see
the you see like the tight type rope they're walk
Is that insane? So my brain's not with it today.
But yeah, that's kind of the interesting points there, like

(12:30):
first of them saying the show has never been done before.
It has, and you counseled it for a reason, So
I'm just curious what you're going to do going forward.
But as I said, yeah, I'm excited to see anyway
moving on from that now, which former cast members have
landed big new television shows. Firstly, apparently last night on
The Golden Bachelor, Evelyn Ellis made an appearance at some

(12:52):
charity gala or something. I've seen one tweet about this.
Didn't watch the episode myself, need to catch up, but
if that's true, really should have done my research. Then
there's one person back on tell You. But other than that,
it's just been announced that Cam Merchant from Duels and
campfign aka one of the nicer guys who's previously appeared
on Maths with a genuinely good heart, and I can

(13:14):
attest to that like having spoken to Cam personally multiple times.
He's just been announced as a cast member on Channel
ten's upcoming celebrity series of The Traitors, and he'll be
starring on that alongside of a heap of other reality
stars from like Love Island, Bachelor, RuPaul's Drag Race, et cetera,
et cetera. And one person who isn't happy about Cam

(13:35):
getting this job is Nasa Sultan, who claims he was
originally offered the role before he got bumped for Camp.
And Nasa recently said this in an interview. I did
like over an hour and twenty minute zoom interview, and
the casting producer said to me, oh my god, we
know all about you. We'd love to have you on
the show, Nasa. And the producer even said, look, this
is all a big tick for me, Nas, I think

(13:57):
I'd love to have you on board. I'm just going
to go back to producers and target through. And then
Nasa says, you know, the producer went back to speak
to them, She made me wait a month, and then
she came back to me and wrote anima saying, sorry, Nasa,
you've missed out.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And now Nasa has found out that's because they chose
Cam instead.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
So yeah, he's not happy and as well as Cam
Jessica Power will also be back on our screens very
soon too. According to Dally Metal and a few of
a website, she's going to be appearing on the upcoming
series of Sas Australia Versus England, which is essentially Sas
Australia but a twist where I have to cast the

(14:34):
British and half of them are Australian and it's going
to air here and in the UK at the same time,
which is essentially like two countries split in the costs
of what would use to be two different series on
making more and just airing it together, which in the
cost of living crisis clever anyway.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, So the Ausie stars.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Will be competing against the UK ones and they will
be pushed to the physical and psychological max in the
remote deserts of my and Jessica will be on Team
Australia alongside Natalie Basing Weight, actor and presenter Axel Whitehead
never heard of him, sorry, Olympic swimmers Emily Seabam and

(15:13):
Mark Matt Cotton, former cricketer Brad Hodge. I really like
I feel I've been in Australia nine years now, and
I've heard of that Natalie and neighbors start Ryan Maloney
aka Tody, And this is where things get interesting because
I'm told apparently Jess and Tody do not get along,
and you can also say they hate each other. And

(15:36):
I'm told there's apparently some drama, some type of fight,
and there's apparently some incident where someone from Team Australia
calls Jessica the Sea Word, or Jessica calls someone and
Team Australia potentially even Tody at the Sea Word, and
it becomes a whole thing and the details of that
are yet to be confirmed, but I'm told like there's
something around Jess, Tody, the Team and the Sea Word.

(15:59):
But what I can confirm now is that Jessica Power
sounds like she will remain the undisputed queen of reality
television drama in Australia because this is now her fifth show.
She did Maths obviously, then she was on Big Brother
VIP alongside like Meghan Michael's brother and Caitlyn Jenner, which
was the most random cast ever. Then she went to

(16:20):
the UK. She was on X on the Beach on MTV.
She was also on celebsco Dating in the UK and
now she's doing this sas Australia versus the UK, and
Jess has been a busy girl, good honor. I suppose
she is entertainment. She's great value. She's always been good
to me. So Jess looking forward to watching that and
speaking of like new and upcoming shows too. My announcement guys,

(16:44):
very very soon.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
So yeah,
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