August 2, 2025 • 8 mins
It's once again "TV's night of nights" in Sydney, but despite Married At First Sight being the biggest show on Australian television and up for an award, you won't see the cast walking the red carpet.
And the reality why, which I reveal here, is kinda sad...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome back to the maths Ony podcast with
Me Joshua Fox and today, guys, is a very big day.
And that's because it is the sixty fifth annual TV
week LOGI Awards later this evening. And you know, that's
an event the Australian media referred to year after year
as TV's night of night. It's our m it's our Oscars,
(00:21):
it's you know, evening where the biggest names across television
come together for an evening of canna pays and celebration
and congregating in the bathroom doing co drinking Coca cola. Anyway, Yeah, yesterday,
cast members from the last seven years have married. At
first I all descended upon Sydney ahead of the event,
(00:42):
and I except none of them are actually invited because
this year, despite the most recent season of the show
once again being the highest rated program on Australian television
in the last twelve months and generating more headlines, social
media commentary and international success then most other free to
air shows combined, Channel nine decided that nope, none of
(01:06):
you will be attending go Away. Instead, all those cast
members actually just flew into Sydney for Daily Mail journalist
Ali Daher's big birthday party. But if you're wondering, well,
why actually are none of the cast invited? You know,
especially like Areean, Jeff or Jamie and Ellie. You know,
the popular ones who didn't really do anything controversial and
who are loved by the public. Well, I'm about to
(01:27):
tell you the full, untold story of what Channel nine
and all TV networks do not want you to know. Firstly,
in recent years, Channel nine would usually hand pick maybe
five or six standout cast members to attend on behalf
of Married at First Sight, And these lucky chosen ones
who've got the golden ticket would either be the ones
(01:48):
who played by the rules all season and were just
loved and nice people who didn't really cause any trouble,
or they would be the ones who were still together
in a happy relationship. So then Channel and could be like, look,
you know, the show isn't all trash and drama. We've
made this one happy couple. Except this year they're not
even bothering with that, and they don't even want the
(02:09):
good ones attending. And before I get to the real
reason with what my sources tell me, expert John Aiken
was actually asked about the cast being snubbed in a
recent interview with Daily Mail, and he said, well, it's
a privilege to be invited, but it's completely out of
my hands and out of the hands of the talent,
like who gets invited. He means every year people are
(02:30):
going to miss out, but you just have no control
over it. And Daily Mail then wrote, and even if
the show did win a LOGI, John joked, it would
be too risky to let some of the brides and
grooms accept the award. John is then quoted as saying,
you'd have no idea what they're gonna say. They're very
brave people who put themselves out there, and I'm grateful
for them doing the show, but you never know what
(02:50):
they'll do once filming raps. I've got no idea what
the accident I was just doing. There was so apologists
for that. But John does have a point. Yes, the
cast can be unpredictable, and that may be a reason,
but I'm actually told by several sources in the TV
world that the real reason they're not bothering inviting any
married at first site cast members anymore is because in
the eyes of the network, they're all completely disposable. Like
(03:13):
by the time the logis comes around every year in
July August, Channel nine have basically got everything they can
from the cast, everything they want. It's all over, and
those people no longer serve any purpose to them, and like,
as far as Channel nine are concerned, they owe them nothing.
And this is the difficult thing, right because each year,
you know, the show presents these people to us on
(03:34):
platters in a way that they know will anger us
infuriators and make us hate on them, and they can
post something on the Maths Instagram like please respect the participants,
don't troll them, but they know people are still going
to do that because they've edited them and pushed them
out to us in that way. And the show does
this with these people year in year out. You know,
(03:55):
it welcomes this backlash because that's what drives conversation, and
then that's what leads to the ratings. And then you know,
once each season is over and those people are then
left picking up the pieces of their lives and dealing
with that trauma. Like it's like Channel nine just wants
us to forget about them as quickly as possible, while
pushing out just the experts as the faces of Maths
(04:16):
and it's and its success as if, like you know,
they're the only thing we should think about, and when
we go Maths, we are the expert's so good at
the job, not like, oh, remember that affair, that drama,
that scandal, that this, you know the reason we actually
watch it and you have to remember, Married at First
Sight is presented to us as a dating experiment, but
it's not. It's a reality television show created to entertain us.
(04:38):
And like most things in the media and shows that
rely on casting regular people as participants, there is a
fine line between entertainment and exploitation, and to me, John's
quote just then just kind of confirmed how all the
people involved in Maths do see the cast not as
people or even participants, but as disposable tools that they
(05:00):
can exploit to achieve whatever they want to achieve, which
is you know, controversy and ratings, and John basically saying,
you know, we're grateful for them doing the show and
giving us their lives for three months, but outside of
you know, the controlled environment of oursets where we can
manipulate narratives and screw them over, we just can't trust
them to behave So we're not going to bother and
to me that doesn't sit right because the irony is
(05:23):
the entire success of Maths is down to the fact
that throughout the show you never know what the cast
they're going to do, Like them being unpredictable and then
dropping bombshells is why the show is what it is.
So for them John to now go, well, they're not
coming to the logos because you never know what they're
going to do, it's like, well, you wanted that, and
you know during filming they do push them to be
(05:45):
as unpredictable as possible, and like it just feels a
bit off. And throughout my whole career in the media,
like in the UK and Australia, now, I've always felt
uneasy with how I see time and time again, like
big networks, big brands, big publications, how they use the
you know, the little people, and they squeeze them for
everything they can before them just throwing them away to
(06:07):
the side so the people at the top can ride
off the success of everything you know, those little people
they've now kicked to the side achieved. And this is
just a prime example of that. And I know people
say every year, well, the Maths cast shouldn't attend because
they're not stars, like why would they walk a red carpet.
But you have to see, as the logis, is just
an award show celebrating the biggest TV shows in Australia
(06:28):
of the last year. And to me at least, it's
only fair that the people who starred on Maths, which
is literally the biggest show in this country, should be
there celebrating and being acknowledged. And no, they might not
be stars in the sense of like a movie star
or a pop star, but they starred on a show,
if that makes sense, and that is the biggest show
(06:49):
in the country. And this is again an award show
celebrating the biggest shows in a country. And like to
put the point I'm trying to make into perspective here, like,
imagine you right listening to this, for I imagine you
work for a real estate agency or whatever they're called,
like and anyway, imagine you're like the youngest employee there,
the junior celler or whatever, you know, the bottom of
(07:10):
the pile essentially. But then imagine you've just like sold
a house for fifty million, or you've broken a record
within the company, or you've just kind of taken that
company to New heights to the point that it's being
celebrated across the industry and maybe it's up for an
industry award, and it's like, wow, you did that, but
you're not asked to go to the award ceremony because
(07:31):
instead your boss goes and he has that moment for
himself and he stands there being recognized for something he
was maybe on the sidelines for, but it was your work,
and like, you won that, if you know what I mean.
And again, that's kind of the point, because you know,
like if Maths Win's best reality show tonight, the cast
members won that, they're the reason it won. It's not
(07:53):
John the Expert, but he's going to be the one
up there smiling. Yes, he was on the show, but
he was on the sidelines as almost I've said it
many times, but a prop and a puppet for production,
like we didn't tune in to go Oh. I can't
wait to see what John the Expert says this week.
I don't think anyone has ever said that. But again,
he's going to be the one accepting it. And that
just circles back to why I feel a bit uneasy
(08:15):
about this
Hello and welcome back to the maths Ony podcast with
Me Joshua Fox and today, guys, is a very big day.
And that's because it is the sixty fifth annual TV
week LOGI Awards later this evening. And you know, that's
an event the Australian media referred to year after year
as TV's night of night. It's our m it's our Oscars,
(00:21):
it's you know, evening where the biggest names across television
come together for an evening of canna pays and celebration
and congregating in the bathroom doing co drinking Coca cola. Anyway, Yeah, yesterday,
cast members from the last seven years have married. At
first I all descended upon Sydney ahead of the event,
(00:42):
and I except none of them are actually invited because
this year, despite the most recent season of the show
once again being the highest rated program on Australian television
in the last twelve months and generating more headlines, social
media commentary and international success then most other free to
air shows combined, Channel nine decided that nope, none of
(01:06):
you will be attending go Away. Instead, all those cast
members actually just flew into Sydney for Daily Mail journalist
Ali Daher's big birthday party. But if you're wondering, well,
why actually are none of the cast invited? You know,
especially like Areean, Jeff or Jamie and Ellie. You know,
the popular ones who didn't really do anything controversial and
who are loved by the public. Well, I'm about to
(01:27):
tell you the full, untold story of what Channel nine
and all TV networks do not want you to know. Firstly,
in recent years, Channel nine would usually hand pick maybe
five or six standout cast members to attend on behalf
of Married at First Sight, And these lucky chosen ones
who've got the golden ticket would either be the ones
(01:48):
who played by the rules all season and were just
loved and nice people who didn't really cause any trouble,
or they would be the ones who were still together
in a happy relationship. So then Channel and could be like, look,
you know, the show isn't all trash and drama. We've
made this one happy couple. Except this year they're not
even bothering with that, and they don't even want the
(02:09):
good ones attending. And before I get to the real
reason with what my sources tell me, expert John Aiken
was actually asked about the cast being snubbed in a
recent interview with Daily Mail, and he said, well, it's
a privilege to be invited, but it's completely out of
my hands and out of the hands of the talent,
like who gets invited. He means every year people are
(02:30):
going to miss out, but you just have no control
over it. And Daily Mail then wrote, and even if
the show did win a LOGI, John joked, it would
be too risky to let some of the brides and
grooms accept the award. John is then quoted as saying,
you'd have no idea what they're gonna say. They're very
brave people who put themselves out there, and I'm grateful
for them doing the show, but you never know what
(02:50):
they'll do once filming raps. I've got no idea what
the accident I was just doing. There was so apologists
for that. But John does have a point. Yes, the
cast can be unpredictable, and that may be a reason,
but I'm actually told by several sources in the TV
world that the real reason they're not bothering inviting any
married at first site cast members anymore is because in
the eyes of the network, they're all completely disposable. Like
(03:13):
by the time the logis comes around every year in
July August, Channel nine have basically got everything they can
from the cast, everything they want. It's all over, and
those people no longer serve any purpose to them, and like,
as far as Channel nine are concerned, they owe them nothing.
And this is the difficult thing, right because each year,
you know, the show presents these people to us on
(03:34):
platters in a way that they know will anger us
infuriators and make us hate on them, and they can
post something on the Maths Instagram like please respect the participants,
don't troll them, but they know people are still going
to do that because they've edited them and pushed them
out to us in that way. And the show does
this with these people year in year out. You know,
(03:55):
it welcomes this backlash because that's what drives conversation, and
then that's what leads to the ratings. And then you know,
once each season is over and those people are then
left picking up the pieces of their lives and dealing
with that trauma. Like it's like Channel nine just wants
us to forget about them as quickly as possible, while
pushing out just the experts as the faces of Maths
(04:16):
and it's and its success as if, like you know,
they're the only thing we should think about, and when
we go Maths, we are the expert's so good at
the job, not like, oh, remember that affair, that drama,
that scandal, that this, you know the reason we actually
watch it and you have to remember, Married at First
Sight is presented to us as a dating experiment, but
it's not. It's a reality television show created to entertain us.
(04:38):
And like most things in the media and shows that
rely on casting regular people as participants, there is a
fine line between entertainment and exploitation, and to me, John's
quote just then just kind of confirmed how all the
people involved in Maths do see the cast not as
people or even participants, but as disposable tools that they
(05:00):
can exploit to achieve whatever they want to achieve, which
is you know, controversy and ratings, and John basically saying,
you know, we're grateful for them doing the show and
giving us their lives for three months, but outside of
you know, the controlled environment of oursets where we can
manipulate narratives and screw them over, we just can't trust
them to behave So we're not going to bother and
to me that doesn't sit right because the irony is
(05:23):
the entire success of Maths is down to the fact
that throughout the show you never know what the cast
they're going to do, Like them being unpredictable and then
dropping bombshells is why the show is what it is.
So for them John to now go, well, they're not
coming to the logos because you never know what they're
going to do, it's like, well, you wanted that, and
you know during filming they do push them to be
(05:45):
as unpredictable as possible, and like it just feels a
bit off. And throughout my whole career in the media,
like in the UK and Australia, now, I've always felt
uneasy with how I see time and time again, like
big networks, big brands, big publications, how they use the
you know, the little people, and they squeeze them for
everything they can before them just throwing them away to
(06:07):
the side so the people at the top can ride
off the success of everything you know, those little people
they've now kicked to the side achieved. And this is
just a prime example of that. And I know people
say every year, well, the Maths cast shouldn't attend because
they're not stars, like why would they walk a red carpet.
But you have to see, as the logis, is just
an award show celebrating the biggest TV shows in Australia
(06:28):
of the last year. And to me at least, it's
only fair that the people who starred on Maths, which
is literally the biggest show in this country, should be
there celebrating and being acknowledged. And no, they might not
be stars in the sense of like a movie star
or a pop star, but they starred on a show,
if that makes sense, and that is the biggest show
(06:49):
in the country. And this is again an award show
celebrating the biggest shows in a country. And like to
put the point I'm trying to make into perspective here, like,
imagine you right listening to this, for I imagine you
work for a real estate agency or whatever they're called,
like and anyway, imagine you're like the youngest employee there,
the junior celler or whatever, you know, the bottom of
(07:10):
the pile essentially. But then imagine you've just like sold
a house for fifty million, or you've broken a record
within the company, or you've just kind of taken that
company to New heights to the point that it's being
celebrated across the industry and maybe it's up for an
industry award, and it's like, wow, you did that, but
you're not asked to go to the award ceremony because
(07:31):
instead your boss goes and he has that moment for
himself and he stands there being recognized for something he
was maybe on the sidelines for, but it was your work,
and like, you won that, if you know what I mean.
And again, that's kind of the point, because you know,
like if Maths Win's best reality show tonight, the cast
members won that, they're the reason it won. It's not
(07:53):
John the Expert, but he's going to be the one
up there smiling. Yes, he was on the show, but
he was on the sidelines as almost I've said it
many times, but a prop and a puppet for production,
like we didn't tune in to go Oh. I can't
wait to see what John the Expert says this week.
I don't think anyone has ever said that. But again,
he's going to be the one accepting it. And that
just circles back to why I feel a bit uneasy
(08:15):
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