In this Masters of Sanctuary Podcast I sit down with none other than Imortilize himself to bring you his take on The Spiritborn We cover everything from favorite builds, to the class, theory crafting and final thoughts on Diablo 4.
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I'm your host tis, and here with me today is a fellow lytics creator, someone that is working in the gaming industry itself, and a creator of some incredibly fun builds.
This is Immortalized Mortalized.
Welcome to the podcast. 5 00:00:16,129.5 --> 00:00:16,349.5 Hi. 6 00:00:17,24.5 --> 00:00:17,429.5 Cheers guys.
Alright, so we're gonna get started today.
Um, the, to get everybody familiar with you and telling me a little bit about yourself, uh, why you game and what makes Diablo the game for you. 9 00:00:29,924.5 --> 00:00:30,314.5 Okay. 10 00:00:30,314.5 --> 00:00:30,554.5 All right. 11 00:00:31,724.5 --> 00:00:33,164.5 so yeah, okay. 12 00:00:33,164.5 --> 00:00:35,594.5 As clips already say, I'm a full-time game developer. 13 00:00:35,654.5 --> 00:00:38,624.5 I've been 15 years, work mainly in the mobile space. 14 00:00:38,684.5 --> 00:00:42,790 Um, I work with some of the most talented people in the uk, I. 15 00:00:42,944.5 --> 00:00:43,334.5 industry. 16 00:00:43,334.5 --> 00:00:50,624.5 Some of these guys works on theme hospital, dungeon keeper, theme park, um, and all going all the way up to modern day. 17 00:00:50,934.5 --> 00:00:54,714.5 Triple A titles, someone of em works on the Diablo franchise back in the day. 18 00:00:54,714.5 --> 00:00:55,655 So I'm Oh, cool. 19 00:00:55,674.5 --> 00:00:58,44.5 I've, I've managed to work with some very cool people. 20 00:00:59,334.5 --> 00:01:07,314.5 but so the people who do come and check out, uh, anything I do, I'm also basically full-time content creating on the side. 21 00:01:07,314.5 --> 00:01:08,200 And I know Yeah. 22 00:01:08,244.5 --> 00:01:09,564.5 little bit about this as well.
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Yeah, it's a lot of work.
Yep. 25 00:01:11,724.5 --> 00:01:15,444.5 but, uh, I really enjoy it and, uh, yeah, predominantly covering the Diablo. 26 00:01:15,594.5 --> 00:01:16,194.5 Um. 27 00:01:17,84.5 --> 00:01:18,74.5 Diablo space. 28 00:01:18,344.5 --> 00:01:20,204.5 I've been gaming since I was about five years old.
Okay. 30 00:01:20,924.5 --> 00:01:23,135 uh, everything gaming, I'm, I'm all Yep. 31 00:01:23,234.5 --> 00:01:24,824.5 making games, breathing games. 32 00:01:24,829.5 --> 00:01:30,824.5 I, I love getting into what makes games tick, you know, the fun, the fundamental mechanics. 33 00:01:30,824.5 --> 00:01:33,254.5 Um, what makes them fun, what doesn't make them fun. 34 00:01:33,254.5 --> 00:01:38,84.5 And I think games like Diablo, um, they lend themselves very well to this. 35 00:01:38,534.5 --> 00:01:39,164.5 Um. 36 00:01:39,569.5 --> 00:01:46,640 You know, my, my first ever game, funnily enough was Duke Newcomb 2D on the floppy disc, and my dad taught me to install it when I was five years old through the Nice. 37 00:01:46,979.5 --> 00:01:49,610 and I, which That's awesome.
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Yeah.
That is so cool.
That is awesome. 41 00:01:54,114.5 --> 00:02:02,405 but ever since I was super young, honestly, it's mainly just been, I, I've played the Ablo one, D two, D three, D four, probably thousands of hours in all of Nice. 42 00:02:02,489.5 --> 00:02:02,969.5 us have. 43 00:02:03,449.5 --> 00:02:07,439.5 And, um, still continue to enjoy them all, uh, for their own merits. 44 00:02:07,469.5 --> 00:02:08,9.5 Um. 45 00:02:08,789.5 --> 00:02:10,169.5 You know, and they're super fun. 46 00:02:10,169.5 --> 00:02:11,519.5 So, yeah. 47 00:02:11,579.5 --> 00:02:24,359.5 Um, what, what makes Diablo the game for me? I mean, there's many games I enjoy, but Diablo and Diablo two particularly was almost like one of the godfathers of the genre in terms of pushing it forward when it came out. 48 00:02:24,569.5 --> 00:02:27,689.5 The game of its time still stands the test of time for a lot of people. 49 00:02:28,829.5 --> 00:02:33,509.5 D three and D four have come out of it in more, you know, in new approaches to that genre. 50 00:02:34,259.5 --> 00:02:35,129.5 Some people. 51 00:02:35,534.5 --> 00:02:41,84.5 Like it, some people don't, there's a lot of people that do like both of those games for their own merits. 52 00:02:41,114.5 --> 00:02:46,4.5 Um, I just always liked the fact that you could play a game. 53 00:02:46,154.5 --> 00:02:49,574.5 You, it is not too difficult to play, but hard to master. 54 00:02:49,634.5 --> 00:02:52,664.5 And you can master these games and you can play it in so many different ways. 55 00:02:53,114.5 --> 00:02:57,374.5 You've got so many different classes and builds you can play and obviously these days you can get. 56 00:02:57,854.5 --> 00:02:59,24.5 Cycles of updates. 57 00:02:59,24.5 --> 00:03:01,94.5 So these can all be changed up as well. 58 00:03:01,364.5 --> 00:03:06,344.5 So it keeps the game thing a bit more fresh than say, back 20 years ago when that wasn't quite so easy to do. 59 00:03:06,914.5 --> 00:03:12,464.5 And, uh, so those, I, it really plays into how I, my mind works, I suppose. 60 00:03:12,464.5 --> 00:03:21,554.5 I just like to get in and figure out all these weird interactions come up with something and it just makes you're playing the same game, but it feels different to play and not all. 61 00:03:21,914.5 --> 00:03:23,234.5 Games are designed to do that. 62 00:03:23,234.5 --> 00:03:27,584.5 Some are, are designed to be a coherent package of, uh, an experience. 63 00:03:27,614.5 --> 00:03:31,544.5 You play it from getting to ends and you can play it in a few different ways with different setups of skills. 64 00:03:31,544.5 --> 00:03:32,954.5 But for the most part, the game's the same. 65 00:03:33,284.5 --> 00:03:39,254.5 And Diablo, you know, is sort of different, um, in that way to me, and it's actually particularly Diablo four. 66 00:03:39,314.5 --> 00:03:43,115 I find it's a part, a very social like oriented Yeah. 67 00:03:43,364.5 --> 00:03:45,374.5 of all of the games in RPGs. 68 00:03:45,704.5 --> 00:03:51,494.5 It's definitely one of the ones that is more focused on playing together, and I'm quite a social gamer these days. 69 00:03:51,494.5 --> 00:03:56,924.5 I quite like playing with people and I, feel like it really lends itself to that. 70 00:03:56,949.5 --> 00:03:57,239.5 Yeah.
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Yeah, I absolutely agree.
It definitely is a much different feel when you get on, you play with a whole bunch of people and it's, they, they did a good job of making it a nice, easy transition from solo into a group play. 73 00:04:10,604.5 --> 00:04:11,105 Yeah, Okay.
Okay.
So I.
The next question we have here is, uh, about some meta builds.
Now I know that you do a lot of off meta builds, which are really, really fun to see and watch you put together.
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So meta builds are very slightly controversial, just in the sense that a lot of people completely swear off playing the meta builds.
.5Um, so how do you feel about playing metaverse off meta and what are your thoughts on it? Yeah, I get it. 80 00:04:34,574.5 --> 00:04:36,134.5 Asked this a lot to be honest. 81 00:04:36,194.5 --> 00:04:39,824.5 Um, I mean, meta builds are meta builds for a reason, right? They're strong. 82 00:04:40,619.5 --> 00:04:45,209.5 some cases over tunes, which is inevitable in games with so many interactions going on. 83 00:04:45,384.5 --> 00:04:47,189.5 They, but they generally perform the best. 84 00:04:47,189.5 --> 00:04:48,539.5 They're the fastest, they're the strongest. 85 00:04:48,539.5 --> 00:04:51,149.5 They can do the, the best content in the best way. 86 00:04:51,899.5 --> 00:04:53,309.5 and some people want to do that. 87 00:04:53,489.5 --> 00:04:56,819.5 So, um, you know, there's nothing wrong with these bills. 88 00:04:56,819.5 --> 00:04:57,989.5 They're method for a reason. 89 00:04:58,439.5 --> 00:05:06,449.5 Um, and honestly, I mean, off MEA builds will inherently not really compete with them in that way because they're off mea. 90 00:05:06,779.5 --> 00:05:08,219.5 They're either not. 91 00:05:08,834.5 --> 00:05:10,64.5 They can't go as strong. 92 00:05:10,214.5 --> 00:05:11,324.5 They don't play as well. 93 00:05:11,624.5 --> 00:05:18,554.5 They just don't have the fundamental, um, design behind them that allows 'em to be, uh, as powerful. 94 00:05:18,794.5 --> 00:05:26,204.5 Uh, you know, uh, but I, I do feel like the off meta builds, um, can compete in like a fun factor way. 95 00:05:26,774.5 --> 00:05:31,484.5 And to me, that comes down to what people actually want from the game. 96 00:05:32,294.5 --> 00:05:34,184.5 some people do want to be the best. 97 00:05:34,469.5 --> 00:05:36,119.5 That is their idea of finding games. 98 00:05:36,119.5 --> 00:05:40,529.5 And that's, you know, competi, they're competitive gamers and there's a lot of people out there that way. 99 00:05:40,529.5 --> 00:05:41,939.5 And that's really cool. 100 00:05:41,939.5 --> 00:05:47,849.5 I, I love watching, um, other gamers, you know, pushing the highest pits and doing them the fastest. 101 00:05:47,849.5 --> 00:05:48,345 And Yeah. 102 00:05:49,79.5 --> 00:05:52,379.5 it makes me laugh sometimes how quickly some people could do some of these things. 103 00:05:52,709.5 --> 00:05:57,779.5 Um, but for me, I quite personally, I quite like the challenge taking a build that. 104 00:05:58,559.5 --> 00:06:06,119.5 most people will not necessarily take it all the way to the end game or be quite hard to achieve doing the whole game. 105 00:06:06,329.5 --> 00:06:10,919.5 And I quite like the, the challenge of being able to do that, um, even if it doesn't do it the best. 106 00:06:11,369.5 --> 00:06:21,599.5 Uh, and I do find with off meta builds, some of them have very unique play styles, uh, or mechanic interactions, which, you don't always get in. 107 00:06:21,599.5 --> 00:06:22,229.5 The meta builds. 108 00:06:22,229.5 --> 00:06:22,979.5 The meta builds. 109 00:06:23,399.5 --> 00:06:29,510 A lot of them typically end up being one button builds because there's something there that makes them very, very strong, Right. 110 00:06:29,789.5 --> 00:06:30,779.5 reason or another. 111 00:06:31,109.5 --> 00:06:32,99.5 And, um. 112 00:06:32,954.5 --> 00:06:35,84.5 they're quite easy to play, easy to blast and such. 113 00:06:35,84.5 --> 00:06:55,660 But yeah, some of these off Messer builds that I've played, um, recently, they don't scale the damage in the same way, for example, or they just play differently and that keeps these sort of games interesting to me after playing so many hours on so many different What types of these games? Uh, there's only so many times I can play a whirlwind bar before I want to play something else for a bit, uh, you Yeah. 114 00:06:55,904.5 --> 00:06:57,794.5 or in, or something else along those lines. 115 00:06:57,794.5 --> 00:06:58,154.5 So. 116 00:06:58,589.5 --> 00:07:02,579.5 Uh, that's, to me, that's what I find fun and that's not what everyone will find fun. 117 00:07:02,579.5 --> 00:07:07,79.5 But I, I try to keep a balanced attitude to it because I don't think it's right to bash on either. 118 00:07:07,559.5 --> 00:07:08,285 I think, Yeah. 119 00:07:08,399.5 --> 00:07:09,899.5 know, some people just wanna play different things. 120 00:07:09,899.5 --> 00:07:10,589.5 That's totally fine. 121 00:07:10,589.5 --> 00:07:13,589.5 And if you can complete the whole game doing it, that's really cool. 122 00:07:13,649.5 --> 00:07:20,939.5 Um, and, you know, if, if you want to go blast the highest content, you can go grab a mess of builds, they'll probably do it a lot easier.
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Yeah, a lot easier.
Yeah, definitely. 125 00:07:24,454.5 --> 00:07:24,744.5 Yeah. 126 00:07:24,869.5 --> 00:07:27,299.5 You know, and that's kind of where it comes down to for me. 127 00:07:27,299.5 --> 00:07:30,749.5 I guess at the end of the day, I, I always recommend to people to follow the fun. 128 00:07:30,989.5 --> 00:07:33,119.5 Like, wherever is fun for you, you should play that.
Great advice. 130 00:07:34,889.5 --> 00:07:42,869.5 what's the strongest build or What do you find the most fun build, the first question I ask back is that because I could go tell 'em to play the my favorite build, but they'll hate it. 131 00:07:43,229.5 --> 00:07:44,375 Or, or I could go Right.
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Yeah. 133 00:07:44,939.5 --> 00:07:45,569.5 and they'll hate it.
Yeah. 135 00:07:46,379.5 --> 00:07:51,689.5 more about what is it you are looking for? Um, and I think that's more important for me personally.
yeah, yeah.
No, I completely agree.
That's, uh, when people pop in and say, Hey, what's the best bar build? That's the first question I ask too is, depends on how you like to play the game and what you wanna get out of it.
Do you wanna do the highest fit? Do you wanna have the most fun? Do you wanna go the fastest? It's all, all really good questions to ask.
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So today we're gonna ask about the spirit born.
Now you've had come up some pretty fun spirit born builds from rake to thorns.
.5Um, what was it about this class, uh, that really kind of drew you to the class? So, uh, funnily enough, my favorite class in Diablo three was the Monk. 143 00:08:27,539.5 --> 00:08:28,250 Um, Okay. 144 00:08:28,889.5 --> 00:08:33,929.5 the spirit born is different to the monk, but it does have a lot of crossovers and similarities. 145 00:08:33,929.5 --> 00:08:40,259.5 It feels inspired by monk, but taken with a slightly new sort of direction, different themes around it. 146 00:08:40,289.5 --> 00:08:43,860.5 Um, it definitely feels quite similar in terms of the way you lock on and. 147 00:08:44,204.5 --> 00:08:47,144.5 You've got lots of mobility in your skills to lock on and move around. 148 00:08:47,144.5 --> 00:08:48,254.5 And the monk had that in D three. 149 00:08:48,254.5 --> 00:08:49,544.5 So I really liked that. 150 00:08:50,564.5 --> 00:08:52,604.5 the punchiness of the skills which you do get. 151 00:08:53,744.5 --> 00:09:05,630 Um, and I actually quite liked the, uh, at least when they, um, of marketed the, the class I quite liked, like all of the, the sort of spirit themes and stuff and the Yeah, me too. 152 00:09:05,684.5 --> 00:09:07,904.5 got these four very like kind of unique. 153 00:09:08,894.5 --> 00:09:12,524.5 styles now, how that's actually ended up playing out in the grand scheme of things. 154 00:09:12,524.5 --> 00:09:17,804.5 And maybe there needs to be some, you know, some extra balance there as like there will be in all classes. 155 00:09:18,254.5 --> 00:09:23,114.5 Um, there's obviously just a few builds that most people have played and the rest has kind of been sidelined for a lot of it. 156 00:09:23,114.5 --> 00:09:27,794.5 But, um, the concepts and the, and the feel and the visuals of it all look really cool. 157 00:09:27,794.5 --> 00:09:33,524.5 So I, I, yeah, I mean definitely my kind of play style, um, more than some of the other classes. 158 00:09:33,554.5 --> 00:09:36,44.5 Uh, most people tend to gravitate towards one or two. 159 00:09:36,494.5 --> 00:09:37,669.5 Um, that's what they tend to play. 160 00:09:38,744.5 --> 00:09:43,154.5 I do currently feel like it's one of the better design classes overall. 161 00:09:43,214.5 --> 00:09:52,874.5 Um, I know that's a very subjective sort of statement, but I think, you know, taking out of the, uh, out of the equation that there's stuff that's very powerful and all that. 162 00:09:53,264.5 --> 00:09:55,934.5 I feel, I feel like there's certain things they've done with that class they could really do. 163 00:09:55,934.5 --> 00:09:59,204.5 We've going back and doing, uh, a pass on the other classes with. 164 00:09:59,984.5 --> 00:10:04,574.5 the things I, I usually say is they've started to do it is the, the rank five. 165 00:10:04,634.5 --> 00:10:07,304.5 Putting maxing out a skill and getting an extra little bonus to it. 166 00:10:07,304.5 --> 00:10:09,794.5 Somethings incentivize you to max out a skill.
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Yeah. 168 00:10:11,894.5 --> 00:10:17,744.5 it gives you an opportunity to do something unique with that skill, but it also gives you that incentive to want to go all in on those skills. 169 00:10:18,104.5 --> 00:10:21,134.5 Uh, I feel like they've added things in there that. 170 00:10:21,464.5 --> 00:10:27,14.5 You know, allow you to manipulate a skill, add it to become multiple different types or such. 171 00:10:27,14.5 --> 00:10:32,414.5 So it unlocks all these different interactions if with certain, particular aspects and, and weapons. 172 00:10:32,414.5 --> 00:10:35,84.5 And they started to, again, do this with other classes as well. 173 00:10:35,174.5 --> 00:10:41,24.5 Um, but I feel like that's something they, it feels like the class was definitely loved on, uh, a lot more. 174 00:10:41,24.5 --> 00:10:44,714.5 And I guess they have more time to do that because it was the only one they released with that package of the game.
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Yeah. 176 00:10:45,494.5 --> 00:10:47,804.5 so I feel like the other classes really could benefit from. 177 00:10:48,164.5 --> 00:10:49,124.5 That as well. 178 00:10:50,54.5 --> 00:10:51,944.5 it's got some very interesting mechanics. 179 00:10:52,4.5 --> 00:10:53,84.5 Uh, there's a few classes. 180 00:10:53,84.5 --> 00:11:00,314.5 I've got thorns in it, um, particularly, but it's one of the only classes I've played that truly can use it in a way that doesn't feel. 181 00:11:00,629.5 --> 00:11:03,065 Bad to use it Yeah, that makes sense. 182 00:11:03,449.5 --> 00:11:05,129.5 normally you're waiting to be hit. 183 00:11:05,189.5 --> 00:11:07,679.5 And I did that on a barb way back. 184 00:11:07,739.5 --> 00:11:08,285 And that's Yep. 185 00:11:08,579.5 --> 00:11:12,269.5 until you go against something that doesn't really hit you often and you can't do anything.
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Yeah, that's a yes. 187 00:11:14,159.5 --> 00:11:15,995 you know, while the spirit born Yeah. 188 00:11:16,349.5 --> 00:11:22,529.5 to be able to it your, you can actually make it your, you can activate it for your skills and stuff.
Yeah.
That is very cool. 191 00:11:24,59.5 --> 00:11:26,729.5 So you can use something else to be your damage type. 192 00:11:26,729.5 --> 00:11:35,639.5 And that I, I find that that's the sort of stuff that interests me, I guess, um, from a high level, uh, they're different play styles and I, I, I actually think it's quite a well-rounded class as well. 193 00:11:35,669.5 --> 00:11:37,859.5 You know, it's got the mobility it can do, the damage. 194 00:11:37,919.5 --> 00:11:39,479.5 It has some pretty decent defense. 195 00:11:39,479.5 --> 00:11:42,515 I wouldn't necessarily say it's the best at any of them, Mm-hmm. 196 00:11:42,554.5 --> 00:11:44,9.5 it's pretty good at all of them. 197 00:11:44,459.5 --> 00:11:55,229.5 Um, so in terms of a starter class, it's actually one of the better ones for new people to play because it's not difficult to pick up and just play and not feel weak in any particular way. 198 00:11:55,229.5 --> 00:11:57,419.5 And you can kind of play any in leveling. 199 00:11:57,659.5 --> 00:11:59,729.5 You can pretty much play any build you like and you'll be fine. 200 00:11:59,729.5 --> 00:12:06,149.5 It's only really in a very end game you get more limited, I'd say, because certain things just can't scale the same way.
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Yeah, it's a, it's definitely a pretty versatile class.
It's, it's pretty cool the way that they, they did the interactions.
I, I really liked it.
So, one question.
I, I did have, because when I, when I got to sit down and theory craft this class before we even got to try it, that was actually, I found it a lot of fun because we've never played a class before and we got to just like, maybe what if, what was that like for you? Uh, I had a lot of fun, uh, a lot of late night Discord chats with people who were doing the Yeah. 206 00:12:37,844.5 --> 00:12:38,885 throwing Yeah. 207 00:12:39,524.5 --> 00:12:41,684.5 Um, I imagine. 208 00:12:42,539.5 --> 00:12:46,349.5 Even when we are blessed with something else in the future, it will be the same again. 209 00:12:46,379.5 --> 00:12:48,179.5 I, you know, it was, yeah. 210 00:12:48,599.5 --> 00:12:50,849.5 It's just, they, they marketed it very well. 211 00:12:50,849.5 --> 00:12:54,689.5 They gave us just enough so that we were getting like, you know, hypes about it. 212 00:12:54,689.5 --> 00:12:55,500 And yeah, Yeah. 213 00:12:55,529.5 --> 00:12:56,429.5 I had a lot of fun with it. 214 00:12:56,519.5 --> 00:12:58,889.5 Um, and I. 215 00:12:59,354.5 --> 00:13:07,955 Season six obviously ended up being a bit overshadowed by a bug, which basically meant all theory craft went out the window, it.
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Yeah.
Yeah. 218 00:13:10,304.5 --> 00:13:16,814.5 um, I tell you what, and we'll get onto this in a bit, I imagine, but season seven has meant I've gone back to those. 219 00:13:17,174.5 --> 00:13:19,845 Because even though some things have changed, Mm-hmm. 220 00:13:20,24.5 --> 00:13:24,524.5 things I put together have been more valid this season because of the bugs being fixed. 221 00:13:24,524.5 --> 00:13:25,514.5 And that's been quite fun. 222 00:13:26,114.5 --> 00:13:30,770 Uh, so I've been playing spirit ball quite a bit this season, regardless of how strong it is, because I Yeah. 223 00:13:30,884.5 --> 00:13:33,524.5 playing it for the way it was actually intended to be played.
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Yeah, it's pretty cool. 225 00:13:35,204.5 --> 00:13:37,904.5 and that's, uh, that's been, that's been kind of fun. 226 00:13:37,994.5 --> 00:13:38,384.5 Yeah.
.5So what was your favorite spirit born build then that you played? My favorite Spirit Bowl builds. 228 00:13:44,489.5 --> 00:13:47,609.5 Uh, well, yeah, I was thinking about this. 229 00:13:47,609.5 --> 00:13:51,419.5 To be honest, I've played four or five different builds pretty thoroughly. 230 00:13:51,419.5 --> 00:13:53,129.5 You know, rake, touch of death, cool volley.
Okay, I honestly think my favorite was the one I did mainly this season, which was just a pure thorns gorilla nice. 232 00:13:59,969.5 --> 00:14:06,89.5 did end up swapping the ultimate out of gorilla that has a fundamental mechanical issue with it right now where you cannot scale. 233 00:14:06,904.5 --> 00:14:07,964.5 damage off of it. 234 00:14:07,994.5 --> 00:14:08,945 They Gotcha. 235 00:14:09,44.5 --> 00:14:11,354.5 for it to do thorn's damage, but it doesn't multiply. 236 00:14:11,504.5 --> 00:14:14,384.5 There's only one way to multiply the damage enough to compete right now. 237 00:14:14,384.5 --> 00:14:15,674.5 And that's using the rock splitter. 238 00:14:16,34.5 --> 00:14:22,415 I managed to get it to do some pretty decent content for a, a build that cannot use crit and overpower and I think I was Okay. 239 00:14:22,754.5 --> 00:14:25,205 billion, so it's not too bad, Yeah, that's great. 240 00:14:25,664.5 --> 00:14:26,375 I did Yeah. 241 00:14:26,714.5 --> 00:14:30,464.5 I was, I was able to clear everything in the game pretty comfortably. 242 00:14:30,464.5 --> 00:14:33,194.5 And I think the thing that was super fun for me about that was. 243 00:14:33,554.5 --> 00:14:36,194.5 It felt really good to play, not difficult to play. 244 00:14:36,194.5 --> 00:14:37,604.5 Super easy to level. 245 00:14:37,724.5 --> 00:14:38,395 You can Okay. 246 00:14:38,624.5 --> 00:14:38,954.5 blast. 247 00:14:38,954.5 --> 00:14:40,484.5 It's a really good hardcore leveler. 248 00:14:42,314.5 --> 00:14:45,44.5 and once you got to the end game, it was like. 249 00:14:45,719.5 --> 00:14:48,955 had a lot of fun figuring out what did work with thorns and huh. 250 00:14:49,259.5 --> 00:14:51,329.5 and not a lot of stuff did actually, funnily enough. 251 00:14:51,329.5 --> 00:14:51,945 But the Okay. 252 00:14:52,49.5 --> 00:14:57,149.5 did, once I figured out what things did, we were able to get it to a point where it was actually decent. 253 00:14:57,149.5 --> 00:15:00,959.5 And really the only thing it's missing now is the ability to get the base thorns. 254 00:15:01,139.5 --> 00:15:03,989.5 If we could get the base thorns higher, which you can't actually get much of. 255 00:15:05,129.5 --> 00:15:09,580 you predict the razor plate's the biggest source and that only gives you 12,000 Yeah, it's not much. 256 00:15:09,689.5 --> 00:15:10,229.5 your base number. 257 00:15:10,289.5 --> 00:15:14,969.5 So, um, you know, if they gave us a bit more base thorns, that build would actually be competitive. 258 00:15:15,149.5 --> 00:15:16,490 Uh, it would upbeat, it would be Hmm. 259 00:15:16,529.5 --> 00:15:20,849.5 there at least as a secondary down from meta, if not even potentially a massive build. 260 00:15:20,849.5 --> 00:15:23,969.5 And it's definitely unique in the source of damage. 261 00:15:24,119.5 --> 00:15:28,409.5 There are not many builds out there that don't use crit and overpower as their main source of damage. 262 00:15:28,799.5 --> 00:15:30,989.5 So I really enjoyed that 'cause it's just so different. 263 00:15:30,989.5 --> 00:15:32,339.5 So anything I played, um. 264 00:15:33,89.5 --> 00:15:37,565 a lot of people interested in that build because it was, it's Something.
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Something new.
Yeah, some That's cool.
All right.
So you mentioned that it's actually really great for leveling and the Spirit Born is a great starter class.
So if somebody was thinking about hopping onto the Spirit born for the very first time, what would be three short tips that you would give them before they hopped onto the class? I. 270 00:15:57,899.5 --> 00:16:02,9.5 Yeah, I spent a long time thinking about what the best things were to say here, really. 271 00:16:02,9.5 --> 00:16:11,549.5 But, uh, I honestly, I'd say try out all the different skills because most of them do work and it's a really good opportunity to try out the skills, find what you like playing with.
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Okay. 273 00:16:12,269.5 --> 00:16:15,869.5 them will work in the end game, to be honest, uh, to some level. 274 00:16:16,259.5 --> 00:16:18,209.5 Um, explore the class and what it has to offer. 275 00:16:18,209.5 --> 00:16:22,499.5 It has actually got some pretty unique mechanics as just as we've mentioned already with the thorns. 276 00:16:22,499.5 --> 00:16:23,579.5 There's some other ones in there. 277 00:16:23,669.5 --> 00:16:26,690 I won't want to ruin everything for everyone, but there hasn't played it Yeah. 278 00:16:26,759.5 --> 00:16:35,654.5 but it's, but it is quite an interesting class to play around with loads of mobility, so you'll be able to move around and blast pretty easy and, uh, get some practice in for season eight. 279 00:16:35,769.5 --> 00:16:38,979.5 Because they were pretty strong on the PTR, even without the boss powers.
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Yep. 281 00:16:40,29.5 --> 00:16:44,859.5 there's a, uh, the new builds may need some love, but some of the, uh, some of the other builds available. 282 00:16:44,859.5 --> 00:16:46,149.5 Were pretty strong on the PTR. 283 00:16:46,479.5 --> 00:16:56,690 So, uh, yeah, bills did you get to play on the PTR? Uh, I didn't actually personally get a chance to play much, but I did see some people I know who Oh, perfect.
Yeah. 285 00:16:57,69.5 --> 00:17:00,339.5 the PTR, you know, like 600 trillions was with Boss Powers. 286 00:17:00,339.5 --> 00:17:00,990 But if Mm-hmm. 287 00:17:00,999.5 --> 00:17:04,359.5 the equation, they were still up there competitive with the other builds that would be. 288 00:17:04,799.5 --> 00:17:08,879.5 Competitive without the boss powers, like the poison rushing claw builds. 289 00:17:08,969.5 --> 00:17:12,659.5 Um, you can scale the damage of Rushing Claw a lot more in the new season and so on and so on. 290 00:17:12,929.5 --> 00:17:13,829.5 There's, there's loads of stuff. 291 00:17:14,249.5 --> 00:17:17,279.5 Um, so it's, um, it should be pretty decent next season.
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Yeah. 293 00:17:17,969.5 --> 00:17:22,700 you know, I, I don't think anyone right now knows what will be the best builds Of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not yet. 297 00:17:24,299.5 --> 00:17:26,369.5 but, uh, it, it should be decent. 298 00:17:26,399.5 --> 00:17:29,159.5 Uh, it'll be a good, it'll be a great leveler as well, to be honest. 299 00:17:29,159.5 --> 00:17:34,19.5 And it is definitely gonna be slower next season for a lot of people to get to that epitome. 300 00:17:34,934.5 --> 00:17:42,800 Level of aspirational content, so, um, Okay, so Spirit Born seems like a pretty good choice for your first leveling class in season eight.
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.5Then Yeah. 302 00:17:44,189.5 --> 00:17:44,585 It'll I. 303 00:17:44,749.5 --> 00:17:45,349.5 be, it'll be good. 304 00:17:45,359.5 --> 00:17:45,869.5 It'll be good. 305 00:17:45,869.5 --> 00:17:46,69.5 Yeah.
Great.
Okay, so finally, uh, final question for you today before we talk a little bit about you.
How do you feel about the state of the game right now, and where is it heading in the future? Oh, the amount of times I've had this conversation with people, um, and I'm question. 309 00:18:05,924.5 --> 00:18:06,824.5 you have as well, clip.
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Yep.
Yep. 312 00:18:07,754.5 --> 00:18:14,204.5 so I mean, look, I've, like, I'm sure you have as well clip, I've played the game since beta, since before the game drops. 313 00:18:14,684.5 --> 00:18:18,554.5 Um, and I've played it, I've played every season from beginning to end except two. 314 00:18:18,794.5 --> 00:18:21,494.5 Um, and I played most of those seasons, so I've played. 315 00:18:22,139.5 --> 00:18:24,899.5 You know, I've got a pretty good idea of how the game's evolved from beginning to end. 316 00:18:24,929.5 --> 00:18:28,559.5 It's definitely evolved a lot since launch and I think for the better of the game. 317 00:18:29,369.5 --> 00:18:38,399.5 Um, I do feel like, although previous seasons have been really fun, season seven's definitely been one of the more fun ones for me, and one of the main reasons for that is because I. 318 00:18:38,714.5 --> 00:18:42,134.5 Um, I think obviously the addition of the armory brilliant. 319 00:18:42,164.5 --> 00:18:43,514.5 We needed this for a long time.
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Absolutely. 321 00:18:44,924.5 --> 00:18:48,74.5 that helps a lot with wanting to play more builds. 322 00:18:48,74.5 --> 00:18:48,770 It's the Mm-hmm. 323 00:18:48,854.5 --> 00:18:49,964.5 I've played the most builds on. 324 00:18:50,24.5 --> 00:18:57,995 I normally do get to about three or four builds and then I've kind of in the past got to point where it's like, I'm not sure I want to level up from scratch again and do all this, Right.
Yeah. 326 00:18:58,694.5 --> 00:19:03,734.5 ability to just take my class, I've got every class level to 60 now, so if I fancy paying a bill, you're just gonna swap over.
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Mm-hmm. 328 00:19:04,424.5 --> 00:19:07,34.5 get some gear, but you can off you go and have a bit of fun. 329 00:19:07,34.5 --> 00:19:08,54.5 So that's been really good. 330 00:19:08,294.5 --> 00:19:09,494.5 I mean, that's really good for the game. 331 00:19:09,944.5 --> 00:19:14,030 Um, I do feel like the game is a bit too fast right now, Okay.
Yeah. 333 00:19:14,354.5 --> 00:19:16,214.5 that they're trying to address that a little bit next season. 334 00:19:16,244.5 --> 00:19:20,834.5 I, I, I actually quite like the fact that the speed of the game can change season, season, it gives you a different feel. 335 00:19:20,954.5 --> 00:19:25,364.5 You probably don't want exactly the same feel every season, otherwise it just becomes a bit monotonous. 336 00:19:25,424.5 --> 00:19:27,824.5 But I think it was so fast this season. 337 00:19:28,229.5 --> 00:19:34,055 Uh, that by the end of the first day, a lot of people have basically completed the majority of what the content is right, right. 338 00:19:34,709.5 --> 00:19:38,729.5 that, that, you know, the whole question of end game aside. 339 00:19:39,89.5 --> 00:19:50,309.5 If you're blasting through the entire game and leaving yourself with virtually nothing left to aspire to do by the end of one day because it's so easy to do that, then yeah, you've pretty much got nothing to chew on. 340 00:19:51,629.5 --> 00:19:54,179.5 there's a few other things I think that could be improved here. 341 00:19:54,989.5 --> 00:19:59,9.5 From my per personal point of view, I mean, more aspirational content would be really nice. 342 00:19:59,9.5 --> 00:20:01,49.5 Like actually truly difficult bus fights. 343 00:20:01,49.5 --> 00:20:07,665 And they are, they are definitely got a few bits coming, uh, at least from what I experienced on the PCR, that people will Yeah. 344 00:20:07,709.5 --> 00:20:08,249.5 challenging.
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Yep. 346 00:20:09,89.5 --> 00:20:14,69.5 necessarily say they're like really, really hard, but they're definitely more challenging than what we've got and I think. 347 00:20:14,759.5 --> 00:20:19,169.5 was a bit overshadowed by the, the fact that we were able to cheat ourselves to Paragon 300. 348 00:20:19,169.5 --> 00:20:20,555 So, Of course. 349 00:20:20,669.5 --> 00:20:21,935 powers, Yeah, definitely. 350 00:20:22,19.5 --> 00:20:25,199.5 actually think those fights are going to be quite difficult, so that, that's gonna be really cool. 351 00:20:25,199.5 --> 00:20:26,279.5 I'm actually looking forward to that.
Yeah. 353 00:20:26,999.5 --> 00:20:30,119.5 that's actually truly not easy to just do. 354 00:20:30,599.5 --> 00:20:40,745 Um, and the one thing I feel like we do lack right now is just, uh, I, I, for the lack of better term, like the item chase, uh, for me it's a Okay. 355 00:20:40,889.5 --> 00:20:43,529.5 too easy to obtain absolutely everything in the game. 356 00:20:46,634.5 --> 00:20:50,54.5 I, the, the thing is that, that, that it is the audience they're trying to appeal to. 357 00:20:50,54.5 --> 00:20:52,775 So I kind of get it, but at the same time, Hmm. 358 00:20:53,144.5 --> 00:20:55,244.5 by not having anything that, you know. 359 00:20:56,39.5 --> 00:21:01,49.5 The very few people are going to have, and you can drop it anywhere, but it's super rare. 360 00:21:01,49.5 --> 00:21:03,29.5 And when you've got it, it's going to be godly.
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Mm-hmm. 362 00:21:03,989.5 --> 00:21:05,300 know that it's just Yeah. 363 00:21:05,369.5 --> 00:21:07,220 in a million sort of drop Yeah. 364 00:21:07,469.5 --> 00:21:09,209.5 nothing in the game that's like this. 365 00:21:09,299.5 --> 00:21:14,669.5 Um, you sort, you are going to get your build complete and you're gonna have nothing to chase for.
Okay. 367 00:21:15,389.5 --> 00:21:17,639.5 Um, you and you lose those wow moments. 368 00:21:17,879.5 --> 00:21:19,220 Like if I look back to Mm-hmm. 369 00:21:19,259.5 --> 00:21:20,219.5 I was a kid playing. 370 00:21:20,879.5 --> 00:21:22,379.5 Let's use Diablo two as an example. 371 00:21:22,379.5 --> 00:21:22,649.5 Here. 372 00:21:22,919.5 --> 00:21:27,125 You could play for 300 hours and then you'll drop your verse burro and the amount Okay. 373 00:21:27,239.5 --> 00:21:27,419.5 get. 374 00:21:27,449.5 --> 00:21:28,505 'cause you're like, oh Yeah. 375 00:21:28,559.5 --> 00:21:29,279.5 I dropped a burro. 376 00:21:30,479.5 --> 00:21:32,399.5 you know how valuable that's going to be. 377 00:21:32,879.5 --> 00:21:38,885 Um, now I'm not suggesting Diablo four should move entirely in that direction, but Something. 378 00:21:39,539.5 --> 00:21:40,955 yeah, something more to Something. 379 00:21:40,979.5 --> 00:21:42,605 to chase in Yeah. 380 00:21:42,629.5 --> 00:21:49,49.5 So I think I, I honestly, I think the Citadel would be a really good, a really good candidate for something like this.
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Yeah. 382 00:21:50,414.5 --> 00:21:51,764.5 I've only done it once this season. 383 00:21:51,764.5 --> 00:21:56,954.5 I did it the other day with, uh, another fellow content creator of friends because we were just doing it for fun. 384 00:21:56,954.5 --> 00:21:57,725 But there's Mm-hmm. 385 00:21:57,794.5 --> 00:22:00,374.5 any particular purpose to go and do it. 386 00:22:00,374.5 --> 00:22:03,824.5 And it's a, I think that would be a good opportunity to maybe explore there. 387 00:22:03,854.5 --> 00:22:08,415 If, you know, if I was to be asked what would be your one, you know, one Okay. 388 00:22:08,474.5 --> 00:22:10,035 of where you could do something Yeah. 389 00:22:10,64.5 --> 00:22:10,574.5 but, um. 390 00:22:11,339.5 --> 00:22:17,99.5 Uh, so I feel like the game's sort of in a position where it's, it's got a pretty good foundation no matter what anyone else says. 391 00:22:17,99.5 --> 00:22:19,349.5 The game is actually quite fun, that's why people still play it. 392 00:22:19,379.5 --> 00:22:21,359.5 It's really good at the multiplayer stuff. 393 00:22:21,809.5 --> 00:22:27,359.5 It's, I have a lot of fun playing with the community and other content creators, um, and playing all the builds I do. 394 00:22:27,719.5 --> 00:22:29,399.5 I wouldn't play it as much as I did if I didn't. 395 00:22:29,519.5 --> 00:22:30,989.5 Uh, fun is I, one for me.
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I agree. 397 00:22:32,819.5 --> 00:22:38,399.5 uh, I feel like, uh, season eight definitely looks like it's set to improve the game. 398 00:22:38,774.5 --> 00:22:45,374.5 Um, in, I, I think it's going to improve it because it'll make the journey a bit better, uh, smoother probably.
Right. 400 00:22:46,64.5 --> 00:22:47,594.5 that's gonna be a step in the right direction. 401 00:22:47,654.5 --> 00:22:54,764.5 I don't think everyone's gonna love it, but I think once people climatize back down from the speed of this season, they might like it more than they think.
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Okay. 403 00:22:56,654.5 --> 00:22:59,234.5 I'm pretty hopeful that the game will improve over time as well. 404 00:22:59,414.5 --> 00:23:03,674.5 Um, and that's coming from someone who's an avid gamer content creator. 405 00:23:03,674.5 --> 00:23:08,615 And I on the other side as an, uh, as a programmer and a gamer Yeah.
Yep. 407 00:23:09,734.5 --> 00:23:11,984.5 I actually do understand how. 408 00:23:12,944.5 --> 00:23:18,674.5 how much work goes into making a game like this and how much, uh, passion a lot of these people probably have. 409 00:23:18,824.5 --> 00:23:33,974.5 Um, so I, I'm usually quite empathetic to this kind of things, and I am, yeah, I'm hopeful that these guys will, will provide, you know, they'll give us more stuff to chew on and some really cool content and, and so I, I look forward to what's coming in future, to be honest. 410 00:23:33,974.5 --> 00:23:34,184.5 Yeah.
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Oh right.
Yeah, me too.
Something that somebody brought up to me the other day, which I thought was actually a really, really cool idea.
You give it a really, really, really low drop chance, but a mythic unique that can carry over from season to season.
Make it general across the whole entire class pool.
It has like a 0.01%
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chance to drop, but if somebody gets lucky enough to find it, they can keep it from every season and just keeps on updating.
So you have an advantage right off the bat.
Uh, and on that really lucky chance to drop, I thought it was a kind of a cool idea. 420 00:24:08,864.5 --> 00:24:13,124.5 Yeah, I I, this is the, this is the great thing about games like this and game development. 421 00:24:13,274.5 --> 00:24:17,444.5 Um, you know, there's so many ways you could do, you could solve the same puzzle.
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yeah.
So many ways.
Yeah. 425 00:24:19,634.5 --> 00:24:21,974.5 that's just one of many different things they could do. 426 00:24:21,974.5 --> 00:24:23,504.5 I mean, it is quite an intriguing idea. 427 00:24:23,504.5 --> 00:24:25,184.5 That's definitely not something I've seen done. 428 00:24:26,39.5 --> 00:24:28,319.5 these games? 'cause most, well it's pretty typical. 429 00:24:28,319.5 --> 00:24:30,599.5 The games completely reset the economy and off you go.
Yeah. 431 00:24:31,559.5 --> 00:24:36,710 and you might carry over, like in Diablo four, your renowned, which is, you know, much needed in Mm-hmm. 432 00:24:36,749.5 --> 00:24:39,869.5 But, um, in most cases you're pretty much starting from, from flat. 433 00:24:39,869.5 --> 00:24:40,865 So, Yeah. 434 00:24:40,919.5 --> 00:24:42,640 um, yeah, that's quite an interesting Okay. 435 00:24:42,794.5 --> 00:24:42,914.5 sure.
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All right.
Well, that was the last question I have for you.
Thank you for your time.
Now, before we go anywhere, I wanted you to shout out what you got going on in your content creation world.
Let everybody know where they can find you at. 441 00:24:54,449.5 --> 00:24:54,599.5 Huh. 442 00:24:55,439.5 --> 00:24:55,859.5 Okay. 443 00:24:55,919.5 --> 00:24:58,349.5 Um, so I'm mostly live on a Twitch. 444 00:24:58,439.5 --> 00:24:59,279.5 Um, yep. 445 00:24:59,309.5 --> 00:25:00,59.5 Immortalized. 446 00:25:00,149.5 --> 00:25:01,709.5 Uh, I do a little bit on YouTube. 447 00:25:01,709.5 --> 00:25:06,620 I'm gonna be getting into Path of Exile two, uh, as a lot of people will be Yep. 448 00:25:06,629.5 --> 00:25:12,689.5 the next week or two with a little bit of Diablo still, um, playing in the community, trying out some more off meta builds and just playing some of the builds. 449 00:25:12,689.5 --> 00:25:13,889.5 I haven't had a chance to play. 450 00:25:14,714.5 --> 00:25:15,254.5 until now. 451 00:25:15,254.5 --> 00:25:17,954.5 So, um, that's mostly what I'll be focused on. 452 00:25:17,954.5 --> 00:25:20,894.5 I I want to try and get a bit, a bit of last EPOCH in as well. 453 00:25:21,104.5 --> 00:25:22,595 We're absolutely blessed in Okay. 454 00:25:22,634.5 --> 00:25:28,334.5 with all of the act, all of the A RPG content to, uh, to cover if you want to. 455 00:25:28,424.5 --> 00:25:35,654.5 Um, and then season, season eight, Diablo four will be, uh, we'll be down on the ground full throttle when that drops. 456 00:25:35,684.5 --> 00:25:40,64.5 Um, I will likely do a 24 hour stream on the release date and blast. 457 00:25:40,424.5 --> 00:25:41,684.5 And try and get to T four. 458 00:25:41,684.5 --> 00:25:42,530 We'll see how Nice. 459 00:25:42,644.5 --> 00:25:49,454.5 'cause none of us really know how difficult that's going to be Um, we don't know what's coming since the PTR, so we'll see. 460 00:25:49,484.5 --> 00:25:52,754.5 But that's, uh, that's pretty much it for me right now. 461 00:25:52,874.5 --> 00:25:55,740 And, uh, yeah, just carry Okay. 462 00:25:55,844.5 --> 00:25:57,725 good time, Well, thank you.
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Welcome to the podcast. 5 00:00:16,129.5 --> 00:00:16,349.5 Hi. 6 00:00:17,24.5 --> 00:00:17,429.5 Cheers guys.
Alright, so we're gonna get started today.
Um, the, to get everybody familiar with you and telling me a little bit about yourself, uh, why you game and what makes Diablo the game for you. 9 00:00:29,924.5 --> 00:00:30,314.5 Okay. 10 00:00:30,314.5 --> 00:00:30,554.5 All right. 11 00:00:31,724.5 --> 00:00:33,164.5 so yeah, okay. 12 00:00:33,164.5 --> 00:00:35,594.5 As clips already say, I'm a full-time game developer. 13 00:00:35,654.5 --> 00:00:38,624.5 I've been 15 years, work mainly in the mobile space. 14 00:00:38,684.5 --> 00:00:42,790 Um, I work with some of the most talented people in the uk, I. 15 00:00:42,944.5 --> 00:00:43,334.5 industry. 16 00:00:43,334.5 --> 00:00:50,624.5 Some of these guys works on theme hospital, dungeon keeper, theme park, um, and all going all the way up to modern day. 17 00:00:50,934.5 --> 00:00:54,714.5 Triple A titles, someone of em works on the Diablo franchise back in the day. 18 00:00:54,714.5 --> 00:00:55,655 So I'm Oh, cool. 19 00:00:55,674.5 --> 00:00:58,44.5 I've, I've managed to work with some very cool people. 20 00:00:59,334.5 --> 00:01:07,314.5 but so the people who do come and check out, uh, anything I do, I'm also basically full-time content creating on the side. 21 00:01:07,314.5 --> 00:01:08,200 And I know Yeah. 22 00:01:08,244.5 --> 00:01:09,564.5 little bit about this as well.
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Yeah, it's a lot of work.
Yep. 25 00:01:11,724.5 --> 00:01:15,444.5 but, uh, I really enjoy it and, uh, yeah, predominantly covering the Diablo. 26 00:01:15,594.5 --> 00:01:16,194.5 Um. 27 00:01:17,84.5 --> 00:01:18,74.5 Diablo space. 28 00:01:18,344.5 --> 00:01:20,204.5 I've been gaming since I was about five years old.
Okay. 30 00:01:20,924.5 --> 00:01:23,135 uh, everything gaming, I'm, I'm all Yep. 31 00:01:23,234.5 --> 00:01:24,824.5 making games, breathing games. 32 00:01:24,829.5 --> 00:01:30,824.5 I, I love getting into what makes games tick, you know, the fun, the fundamental mechanics. 33 00:01:30,824.5 --> 00:01:33,254.5 Um, what makes them fun, what doesn't make them fun. 34 00:01:33,254.5 --> 00:01:38,84.5 And I think games like Diablo, um, they lend themselves very well to this. 35 00:01:38,534.5 --> 00:01:39,164.5 Um. 36 00:01:39,569.5 --> 00:01:46,640 You know, my, my first ever game, funnily enough was Duke Newcomb 2D on the floppy disc, and my dad taught me to install it when I was five years old through the Nice. 37 00:01:46,979.5 --> 00:01:49,610 and I, which That's awesome.
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Yeah.
That is so cool.
That is awesome. 41 00:01:54,114.5 --> 00:02:02,405 but ever since I was super young, honestly, it's mainly just been, I, I've played the Ablo one, D two, D three, D four, probably thousands of hours in all of Nice. 42 00:02:02,489.5 --> 00:02:02,969.5 us have. 43 00:02:03,449.5 --> 00:02:07,439.5 And, um, still continue to enjoy them all, uh, for their own merits. 44 00:02:07,469.5 --> 00:02:08,9.5 Um. 45 00:02:08,789.5 --> 00:02:10,169.5 You know, and they're super fun. 46 00:02:10,169.5 --> 00:02:11,519.5 So, yeah. 47 00:02:11,579.5 --> 00:02:24,359.5 Um, what, what makes Diablo the game for me? I mean, there's many games I enjoy, but Diablo and Diablo two particularly was almost like one of the godfathers of the genre in terms of pushing it forward when it came out. 48 00:02:24,569.5 --> 00:02:27,689.5 The game of its time still stands the test of time for a lot of people. 49 00:02:28,829.5 --> 00:02:33,509.5 D three and D four have come out of it in more, you know, in new approaches to that genre. 50 00:02:34,259.5 --> 00:02:35,129.5 Some people. 51 00:02:35,534.5 --> 00:02:41,84.5 Like it, some people don't, there's a lot of people that do like both of those games for their own merits. 52 00:02:41,114.5 --> 00:02:46,4.5 Um, I just always liked the fact that you could play a game. 53 00:02:46,154.5 --> 00:02:49,574.5 You, it is not too difficult to play, but hard to master. 54 00:02:49,634.5 --> 00:02:52,664.5 And you can master these games and you can play it in so many different ways. 55 00:02:53,114.5 --> 00:02:57,374.5 You've got so many different classes and builds you can play and obviously these days you can get. 56 00:02:57,854.5 --> 00:02:59,24.5 Cycles of updates. 57 00:02:59,24.5 --> 00:03:01,94.5 So these can all be changed up as well. 58 00:03:01,364.5 --> 00:03:06,344.5 So it keeps the game thing a bit more fresh than say, back 20 years ago when that wasn't quite so easy to do. 59 00:03:06,914.5 --> 00:03:12,464.5 And, uh, so those, I, it really plays into how I, my mind works, I suppose. 60 00:03:12,464.5 --> 00:03:21,554.5 I just like to get in and figure out all these weird interactions come up with something and it just makes you're playing the same game, but it feels different to play and not all. 61 00:03:21,914.5 --> 00:03:23,234.5 Games are designed to do that. 62 00:03:23,234.5 --> 00:03:27,584.5 Some are, are designed to be a coherent package of, uh, an experience. 63 00:03:27,614.5 --> 00:03:31,544.5 You play it from getting to ends and you can play it in a few different ways with different setups of skills. 64 00:03:31,544.5 --> 00:03:32,954.5 But for the most part, the game's the same. 65 00:03:33,284.5 --> 00:03:39,254.5 And Diablo, you know, is sort of different, um, in that way to me, and it's actually particularly Diablo four. 66 00:03:39,314.5 --> 00:03:43,115 I find it's a part, a very social like oriented Yeah. 67 00:03:43,364.5 --> 00:03:45,374.5 of all of the games in RPGs. 68 00:03:45,704.5 --> 00:03:51,494.5 It's definitely one of the ones that is more focused on playing together, and I'm quite a social gamer these days. 69 00:03:51,494.5 --> 00:03:56,924.5 I quite like playing with people and I, feel like it really lends itself to that. 70 00:03:56,949.5 --> 00:03:57,239.5 Yeah.
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Yeah, I absolutely agree.
It definitely is a much different feel when you get on, you play with a whole bunch of people and it's, they, they did a good job of making it a nice, easy transition from solo into a group play. 73 00:04:10,604.5 --> 00:04:11,105 Yeah, Okay.
Okay.
So I.
The next question we have here is, uh, about some meta builds.
Now I know that you do a lot of off meta builds, which are really, really fun to see and watch you put together.
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So meta builds are very slightly controversial, just in the sense that a lot of people completely swear off playing the meta builds.
.5Um, so how do you feel about playing metaverse off meta and what are your thoughts on it? Yeah, I get it. 80 00:04:34,574.5 --> 00:04:36,134.5 Asked this a lot to be honest. 81 00:04:36,194.5 --> 00:04:39,824.5 Um, I mean, meta builds are meta builds for a reason, right? They're strong. 82 00:04:40,619.5 --> 00:04:45,209.5 some cases over tunes, which is inevitable in games with so many interactions going on. 83 00:04:45,384.5 --> 00:04:47,189.5 They, but they generally perform the best. 84 00:04:47,189.5 --> 00:04:48,539.5 They're the fastest, they're the strongest. 85 00:04:48,539.5 --> 00:04:51,149.5 They can do the, the best content in the best way. 86 00:04:51,899.5 --> 00:04:53,309.5 and some people want to do that. 87 00:04:53,489.5 --> 00:04:56,819.5 So, um, you know, there's nothing wrong with these bills. 88 00:04:56,819.5 --> 00:04:57,989.5 They're method for a reason. 89 00:04:58,439.5 --> 00:05:06,449.5 Um, and honestly, I mean, off MEA builds will inherently not really compete with them in that way because they're off mea. 90 00:05:06,779.5 --> 00:05:08,219.5 They're either not. 91 00:05:08,834.5 --> 00:05:10,64.5 They can't go as strong. 92 00:05:10,214.5 --> 00:05:11,324.5 They don't play as well. 93 00:05:11,624.5 --> 00:05:18,554.5 They just don't have the fundamental, um, design behind them that allows 'em to be, uh, as powerful. 94 00:05:18,794.5 --> 00:05:26,204.5 Uh, you know, uh, but I, I do feel like the off meta builds, um, can compete in like a fun factor way. 95 00:05:26,774.5 --> 00:05:31,484.5 And to me, that comes down to what people actually want from the game. 96 00:05:32,294.5 --> 00:05:34,184.5 some people do want to be the best. 97 00:05:34,469.5 --> 00:05:36,119.5 That is their idea of finding games. 98 00:05:36,119.5 --> 00:05:40,529.5 And that's, you know, competi, they're competitive gamers and there's a lot of people out there that way. 99 00:05:40,529.5 --> 00:05:41,939.5 And that's really cool. 100 00:05:41,939.5 --> 00:05:47,849.5 I, I love watching, um, other gamers, you know, pushing the highest pits and doing them the fastest. 101 00:05:47,849.5 --> 00:05:48,345 And Yeah. 102 00:05:49,79.5 --> 00:05:52,379.5 it makes me laugh sometimes how quickly some people could do some of these things. 103 00:05:52,709.5 --> 00:05:57,779.5 Um, but for me, I quite personally, I quite like the challenge taking a build that. 104 00:05:58,559.5 --> 00:06:06,119.5 most people will not necessarily take it all the way to the end game or be quite hard to achieve doing the whole game. 105 00:06:06,329.5 --> 00:06:10,919.5 And I quite like the, the challenge of being able to do that, um, even if it doesn't do it the best. 106 00:06:11,369.5 --> 00:06:21,599.5 Uh, and I do find with off meta builds, some of them have very unique play styles, uh, or mechanic interactions, which, you don't always get in. 107 00:06:21,599.5 --> 00:06:22,229.5 The meta builds. 108 00:06:22,229.5 --> 00:06:22,979.5 The meta builds. 109 00:06:23,399.5 --> 00:06:29,510 A lot of them typically end up being one button builds because there's something there that makes them very, very strong, Right. 110 00:06:29,789.5 --> 00:06:30,779.5 reason or another. 111 00:06:31,109.5 --> 00:06:32,99.5 And, um. 112 00:06:32,954.5 --> 00:06:35,84.5 they're quite easy to play, easy to blast and such. 113 00:06:35,84.5 --> 00:06:55,660 But yeah, some of these off Messer builds that I've played, um, recently, they don't scale the damage in the same way, for example, or they just play differently and that keeps these sort of games interesting to me after playing so many hours on so many different What types of these games? Uh, there's only so many times I can play a whirlwind bar before I want to play something else for a bit, uh, you Yeah. 114 00:06:55,904.5 --> 00:06:57,794.5 or in, or something else along those lines. 115 00:06:57,794.5 --> 00:06:58,154.5 So. 116 00:06:58,589.5 --> 00:07:02,579.5 Uh, that's, to me, that's what I find fun and that's not what everyone will find fun. 117 00:07:02,579.5 --> 00:07:07,79.5 But I, I try to keep a balanced attitude to it because I don't think it's right to bash on either. 118 00:07:07,559.5 --> 00:07:08,285 I think, Yeah. 119 00:07:08,399.5 --> 00:07:09,899.5 know, some people just wanna play different things. 120 00:07:09,899.5 --> 00:07:10,589.5 That's totally fine. 121 00:07:10,589.5 --> 00:07:13,589.5 And if you can complete the whole game doing it, that's really cool. 122 00:07:13,649.5 --> 00:07:20,939.5 Um, and, you know, if, if you want to go blast the highest content, you can go grab a mess of builds, they'll probably do it a lot easier.
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Yeah, a lot easier.
Yeah, definitely. 125 00:07:24,454.5 --> 00:07:24,744.5 Yeah. 126 00:07:24,869.5 --> 00:07:27,299.5 You know, and that's kind of where it comes down to for me. 127 00:07:27,299.5 --> 00:07:30,749.5 I guess at the end of the day, I, I always recommend to people to follow the fun. 128 00:07:30,989.5 --> 00:07:33,119.5 Like, wherever is fun for you, you should play that.
Great advice. 130 00:07:34,889.5 --> 00:07:42,869.5 what's the strongest build or What do you find the most fun build, the first question I ask back is that because I could go tell 'em to play the my favorite build, but they'll hate it. 131 00:07:43,229.5 --> 00:07:44,375 Or, or I could go Right.
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Yeah. 133 00:07:44,939.5 --> 00:07:45,569.5 and they'll hate it.
Yeah. 135 00:07:46,379.5 --> 00:07:51,689.5 more about what is it you are looking for? Um, and I think that's more important for me personally.
yeah, yeah.
No, I completely agree.
That's, uh, when people pop in and say, Hey, what's the best bar build? That's the first question I ask too is, depends on how you like to play the game and what you wanna get out of it.
Do you wanna do the highest fit? Do you wanna have the most fun? Do you wanna go the fastest? It's all, all really good questions to ask.
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So today we're gonna ask about the spirit born.
Now you've had come up some pretty fun spirit born builds from rake to thorns.
.5Um, what was it about this class, uh, that really kind of drew you to the class? So, uh, funnily enough, my favorite class in Diablo three was the Monk. 143 00:08:27,539.5 --> 00:08:28,250 Um, Okay. 144 00:08:28,889.5 --> 00:08:33,929.5 the spirit born is different to the monk, but it does have a lot of crossovers and similarities. 145 00:08:33,929.5 --> 00:08:40,259.5 It feels inspired by monk, but taken with a slightly new sort of direction, different themes around it. 146 00:08:40,289.5 --> 00:08:43,860.5 Um, it definitely feels quite similar in terms of the way you lock on and. 147 00:08:44,204.5 --> 00:08:47,144.5 You've got lots of mobility in your skills to lock on and move around. 148 00:08:47,144.5 --> 00:08:48,254.5 And the monk had that in D three. 149 00:08:48,254.5 --> 00:08:49,544.5 So I really liked that. 150 00:08:50,564.5 --> 00:08:52,604.5 the punchiness of the skills which you do get. 151 00:08:53,744.5 --> 00:09:05,630 Um, and I actually quite liked the, uh, at least when they, um, of marketed the, the class I quite liked, like all of the, the sort of spirit themes and stuff and the Yeah, me too. 152 00:09:05,684.5 --> 00:09:07,904.5 got these four very like kind of unique. 153 00:09:08,894.5 --> 00:09:12,524.5 styles now, how that's actually ended up playing out in the grand scheme of things. 154 00:09:12,524.5 --> 00:09:17,804.5 And maybe there needs to be some, you know, some extra balance there as like there will be in all classes. 155 00:09:18,254.5 --> 00:09:23,114.5 Um, there's obviously just a few builds that most people have played and the rest has kind of been sidelined for a lot of it. 156 00:09:23,114.5 --> 00:09:27,794.5 But, um, the concepts and the, and the feel and the visuals of it all look really cool. 157 00:09:27,794.5 --> 00:09:33,524.5 So I, I, yeah, I mean definitely my kind of play style, um, more than some of the other classes. 158 00:09:33,554.5 --> 00:09:36,44.5 Uh, most people tend to gravitate towards one or two. 159 00:09:36,494.5 --> 00:09:37,669.5 Um, that's what they tend to play. 160 00:09:38,744.5 --> 00:09:43,154.5 I do currently feel like it's one of the better design classes overall. 161 00:09:43,214.5 --> 00:09:52,874.5 Um, I know that's a very subjective sort of statement, but I think, you know, taking out of the, uh, out of the equation that there's stuff that's very powerful and all that. 162 00:09:53,264.5 --> 00:09:55,934.5 I feel, I feel like there's certain things they've done with that class they could really do. 163 00:09:55,934.5 --> 00:09:59,204.5 We've going back and doing, uh, a pass on the other classes with. 164 00:09:59,984.5 --> 00:10:04,574.5 the things I, I usually say is they've started to do it is the, the rank five. 165 00:10:04,634.5 --> 00:10:07,304.5 Putting maxing out a skill and getting an extra little bonus to it. 166 00:10:07,304.5 --> 00:10:09,794.5 Somethings incentivize you to max out a skill.
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Yeah. 168 00:10:11,894.5 --> 00:10:17,744.5 it gives you an opportunity to do something unique with that skill, but it also gives you that incentive to want to go all in on those skills. 169 00:10:18,104.5 --> 00:10:21,134.5 Uh, I feel like they've added things in there that. 170 00:10:21,464.5 --> 00:10:27,14.5 You know, allow you to manipulate a skill, add it to become multiple different types or such. 171 00:10:27,14.5 --> 00:10:32,414.5 So it unlocks all these different interactions if with certain, particular aspects and, and weapons. 172 00:10:32,414.5 --> 00:10:35,84.5 And they started to, again, do this with other classes as well. 173 00:10:35,174.5 --> 00:10:41,24.5 Um, but I feel like that's something they, it feels like the class was definitely loved on, uh, a lot more. 174 00:10:41,24.5 --> 00:10:44,714.5 And I guess they have more time to do that because it was the only one they released with that package of the game.
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Yeah. 176 00:10:45,494.5 --> 00:10:47,804.5 so I feel like the other classes really could benefit from. 177 00:10:48,164.5 --> 00:10:49,124.5 That as well. 178 00:10:50,54.5 --> 00:10:51,944.5 it's got some very interesting mechanics. 179 00:10:52,4.5 --> 00:10:53,84.5 Uh, there's a few classes. 180 00:10:53,84.5 --> 00:11:00,314.5 I've got thorns in it, um, particularly, but it's one of the only classes I've played that truly can use it in a way that doesn't feel. 181 00:11:00,629.5 --> 00:11:03,065 Bad to use it Yeah, that makes sense. 182 00:11:03,449.5 --> 00:11:05,129.5 normally you're waiting to be hit. 183 00:11:05,189.5 --> 00:11:07,679.5 And I did that on a barb way back. 184 00:11:07,739.5 --> 00:11:08,285 And that's Yep. 185 00:11:08,579.5 --> 00:11:12,269.5 until you go against something that doesn't really hit you often and you can't do anything.
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Yeah, that's a yes. 187 00:11:14,159.5 --> 00:11:15,995 you know, while the spirit born Yeah. 188 00:11:16,349.5 --> 00:11:22,529.5 to be able to it your, you can actually make it your, you can activate it for your skills and stuff.
Yeah.
That is very cool. 191 00:11:24,59.5 --> 00:11:26,729.5 So you can use something else to be your damage type. 192 00:11:26,729.5 --> 00:11:35,639.5 And that I, I find that that's the sort of stuff that interests me, I guess, um, from a high level, uh, they're different play styles and I, I, I actually think it's quite a well-rounded class as well. 193 00:11:35,669.5 --> 00:11:37,859.5 You know, it's got the mobility it can do, the damage. 194 00:11:37,919.5 --> 00:11:39,479.5 It has some pretty decent defense. 195 00:11:39,479.5 --> 00:11:42,515 I wouldn't necessarily say it's the best at any of them, Mm-hmm. 196 00:11:42,554.5 --> 00:11:44,9.5 it's pretty good at all of them. 197 00:11:44,459.5 --> 00:11:55,229.5 Um, so in terms of a starter class, it's actually one of the better ones for new people to play because it's not difficult to pick up and just play and not feel weak in any particular way. 198 00:11:55,229.5 --> 00:11:57,419.5 And you can kind of play any in leveling. 199 00:11:57,659.5 --> 00:11:59,729.5 You can pretty much play any build you like and you'll be fine. 200 00:11:59,729.5 --> 00:12:06,149.5 It's only really in a very end game you get more limited, I'd say, because certain things just can't scale the same way.
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Yeah, it's a, it's definitely a pretty versatile class.
It's, it's pretty cool the way that they, they did the interactions.
I, I really liked it.
So, one question.
I, I did have, because when I, when I got to sit down and theory craft this class before we even got to try it, that was actually, I found it a lot of fun because we've never played a class before and we got to just like, maybe what if, what was that like for you? Uh, I had a lot of fun, uh, a lot of late night Discord chats with people who were doing the Yeah. 206 00:12:37,844.5 --> 00:12:38,885 throwing Yeah. 207 00:12:39,524.5 --> 00:12:41,684.5 Um, I imagine. 208 00:12:42,539.5 --> 00:12:46,349.5 Even when we are blessed with something else in the future, it will be the same again. 209 00:12:46,379.5 --> 00:12:48,179.5 I, you know, it was, yeah. 210 00:12:48,599.5 --> 00:12:50,849.5 It's just, they, they marketed it very well. 211 00:12:50,849.5 --> 00:12:54,689.5 They gave us just enough so that we were getting like, you know, hypes about it. 212 00:12:54,689.5 --> 00:12:55,500 And yeah, Yeah. 213 00:12:55,529.5 --> 00:12:56,429.5 I had a lot of fun with it. 214 00:12:56,519.5 --> 00:12:58,889.5 Um, and I. 215 00:12:59,354.5 --> 00:13:07,955 Season six obviously ended up being a bit overshadowed by a bug, which basically meant all theory craft went out the window, it.
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Yeah.
Yeah. 218 00:13:10,304.5 --> 00:13:16,814.5 um, I tell you what, and we'll get onto this in a bit, I imagine, but season seven has meant I've gone back to those. 219 00:13:17,174.5 --> 00:13:19,845 Because even though some things have changed, Mm-hmm. 220 00:13:20,24.5 --> 00:13:24,524.5 things I put together have been more valid this season because of the bugs being fixed. 221 00:13:24,524.5 --> 00:13:25,514.5 And that's been quite fun. 222 00:13:26,114.5 --> 00:13:30,770 Uh, so I've been playing spirit ball quite a bit this season, regardless of how strong it is, because I Yeah. 223 00:13:30,884.5 --> 00:13:33,524.5 playing it for the way it was actually intended to be played.
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Yeah, it's pretty cool. 225 00:13:35,204.5 --> 00:13:37,904.5 and that's, uh, that's been, that's been kind of fun. 226 00:13:37,994.5 --> 00:13:38,384.5 Yeah.
.5So what was your favorite spirit born build then that you played? My favorite Spirit Bowl builds. 228 00:13:44,489.5 --> 00:13:47,609.5 Uh, well, yeah, I was thinking about this. 229 00:13:47,609.5 --> 00:13:51,419.5 To be honest, I've played four or five different builds pretty thoroughly. 230 00:13:51,419.5 --> 00:13:53,129.5 You know, rake, touch of death, cool volley.
Okay, I honestly think my favorite was the one I did mainly this season, which was just a pure thorns gorilla nice. 232 00:13:59,969.5 --> 00:14:06,89.5 did end up swapping the ultimate out of gorilla that has a fundamental mechanical issue with it right now where you cannot scale. 233 00:14:06,904.5 --> 00:14:07,964.5 damage off of it. 234 00:14:07,994.5 --> 00:14:08,945 They Gotcha. 235 00:14:09,44.5 --> 00:14:11,354.5 for it to do thorn's damage, but it doesn't multiply. 236 00:14:11,504.5 --> 00:14:14,384.5 There's only one way to multiply the damage enough to compete right now. 237 00:14:14,384.5 --> 00:14:15,674.5 And that's using the rock splitter. 238 00:14:16,34.5 --> 00:14:22,415 I managed to get it to do some pretty decent content for a, a build that cannot use crit and overpower and I think I was Okay. 239 00:14:22,754.5 --> 00:14:25,205 billion, so it's not too bad, Yeah, that's great. 240 00:14:25,664.5 --> 00:14:26,375 I did Yeah. 241 00:14:26,714.5 --> 00:14:30,464.5 I was, I was able to clear everything in the game pretty comfortably. 242 00:14:30,464.5 --> 00:14:33,194.5 And I think the thing that was super fun for me about that was. 243 00:14:33,554.5 --> 00:14:36,194.5 It felt really good to play, not difficult to play. 244 00:14:36,194.5 --> 00:14:37,604.5 Super easy to level. 245 00:14:37,724.5 --> 00:14:38,395 You can Okay. 246 00:14:38,624.5 --> 00:14:38,954.5 blast. 247 00:14:38,954.5 --> 00:14:40,484.5 It's a really good hardcore leveler. 248 00:14:42,314.5 --> 00:14:45,44.5 and once you got to the end game, it was like. 249 00:14:45,719.5 --> 00:14:48,955 had a lot of fun figuring out what did work with thorns and huh. 250 00:14:49,259.5 --> 00:14:51,329.5 and not a lot of stuff did actually, funnily enough. 251 00:14:51,329.5 --> 00:14:51,945 But the Okay. 252 00:14:52,49.5 --> 00:14:57,149.5 did, once I figured out what things did, we were able to get it to a point where it was actually decent. 253 00:14:57,149.5 --> 00:15:00,959.5 And really the only thing it's missing now is the ability to get the base thorns. 254 00:15:01,139.5 --> 00:15:03,989.5 If we could get the base thorns higher, which you can't actually get much of. 255 00:15:05,129.5 --> 00:15:09,580 you predict the razor plate's the biggest source and that only gives you 12,000 Yeah, it's not much. 256 00:15:09,689.5 --> 00:15:10,229.5 your base number. 257 00:15:10,289.5 --> 00:15:14,969.5 So, um, you know, if they gave us a bit more base thorns, that build would actually be competitive. 258 00:15:15,149.5 --> 00:15:16,490 Uh, it would upbeat, it would be Hmm. 259 00:15:16,529.5 --> 00:15:20,849.5 there at least as a secondary down from meta, if not even potentially a massive build. 260 00:15:20,849.5 --> 00:15:23,969.5 And it's definitely unique in the source of damage. 261 00:15:24,119.5 --> 00:15:28,409.5 There are not many builds out there that don't use crit and overpower as their main source of damage. 262 00:15:28,799.5 --> 00:15:30,989.5 So I really enjoyed that 'cause it's just so different. 263 00:15:30,989.5 --> 00:15:32,339.5 So anything I played, um. 264 00:15:33,89.5 --> 00:15:37,565 a lot of people interested in that build because it was, it's Something.
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Something new.
Yeah, some That's cool.
All right.
So you mentioned that it's actually really great for leveling and the Spirit Born is a great starter class.
So if somebody was thinking about hopping onto the Spirit born for the very first time, what would be three short tips that you would give them before they hopped onto the class? I. 270 00:15:57,899.5 --> 00:16:02,9.5 Yeah, I spent a long time thinking about what the best things were to say here, really. 271 00:16:02,9.5 --> 00:16:11,549.5 But, uh, I honestly, I'd say try out all the different skills because most of them do work and it's a really good opportunity to try out the skills, find what you like playing with.
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Okay. 273 00:16:12,269.5 --> 00:16:15,869.5 them will work in the end game, to be honest, uh, to some level. 274 00:16:16,259.5 --> 00:16:18,209.5 Um, explore the class and what it has to offer. 275 00:16:18,209.5 --> 00:16:22,499.5 It has actually got some pretty unique mechanics as just as we've mentioned already with the thorns. 276 00:16:22,499.5 --> 00:16:23,579.5 There's some other ones in there. 277 00:16:23,669.5 --> 00:16:26,690 I won't want to ruin everything for everyone, but there hasn't played it Yeah. 278 00:16:26,759.5 --> 00:16:35,654.5 but it's, but it is quite an interesting class to play around with loads of mobility, so you'll be able to move around and blast pretty easy and, uh, get some practice in for season eight. 279 00:16:35,769.5 --> 00:16:38,979.5 Because they were pretty strong on the PTR, even without the boss powers.
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Yep. 281 00:16:40,29.5 --> 00:16:44,859.5 there's a, uh, the new builds may need some love, but some of the, uh, some of the other builds available. 282 00:16:44,859.5 --> 00:16:46,149.5 Were pretty strong on the PTR. 283 00:16:46,479.5 --> 00:16:56,690 So, uh, yeah, bills did you get to play on the PTR? Uh, I didn't actually personally get a chance to play much, but I did see some people I know who Oh, perfect.
Yeah. 285 00:16:57,69.5 --> 00:17:00,339.5 the PTR, you know, like 600 trillions was with Boss Powers. 286 00:17:00,339.5 --> 00:17:00,990 But if Mm-hmm. 287 00:17:00,999.5 --> 00:17:04,359.5 the equation, they were still up there competitive with the other builds that would be. 288 00:17:04,799.5 --> 00:17:08,879.5 Competitive without the boss powers, like the poison rushing claw builds. 289 00:17:08,969.5 --> 00:17:12,659.5 Um, you can scale the damage of Rushing Claw a lot more in the new season and so on and so on. 290 00:17:12,929.5 --> 00:17:13,829.5 There's, there's loads of stuff. 291 00:17:14,249.5 --> 00:17:17,279.5 Um, so it's, um, it should be pretty decent next season.
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Yeah. 293 00:17:17,969.5 --> 00:17:22,700 you know, I, I don't think anyone right now knows what will be the best builds Of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not yet. 297 00:17:24,299.5 --> 00:17:26,369.5 but, uh, it, it should be decent. 298 00:17:26,399.5 --> 00:17:29,159.5 Uh, it'll be a good, it'll be a great leveler as well, to be honest. 299 00:17:29,159.5 --> 00:17:34,19.5 And it is definitely gonna be slower next season for a lot of people to get to that epitome. 300 00:17:34,934.5 --> 00:17:42,800 Level of aspirational content, so, um, Okay, so Spirit Born seems like a pretty good choice for your first leveling class in season eight.
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.5Then Yeah. 302 00:17:44,189.5 --> 00:17:44,585 It'll I. 303 00:17:44,749.5 --> 00:17:45,349.5 be, it'll be good. 304 00:17:45,359.5 --> 00:17:45,869.5 It'll be good. 305 00:17:45,869.5 --> 00:17:46,69.5 Yeah.
Great.
Okay, so finally, uh, final question for you today before we talk a little bit about you.
How do you feel about the state of the game right now, and where is it heading in the future? Oh, the amount of times I've had this conversation with people, um, and I'm question. 309 00:18:05,924.5 --> 00:18:06,824.5 you have as well, clip.
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Yep.
Yep. 312 00:18:07,754.5 --> 00:18:14,204.5 so I mean, look, I've, like, I'm sure you have as well clip, I've played the game since beta, since before the game drops. 313 00:18:14,684.5 --> 00:18:18,554.5 Um, and I've played it, I've played every season from beginning to end except two. 314 00:18:18,794.5 --> 00:18:21,494.5 Um, and I played most of those seasons, so I've played. 315 00:18:22,139.5 --> 00:18:24,899.5 You know, I've got a pretty good idea of how the game's evolved from beginning to end. 316 00:18:24,929.5 --> 00:18:28,559.5 It's definitely evolved a lot since launch and I think for the better of the game. 317 00:18:29,369.5 --> 00:18:38,399.5 Um, I do feel like, although previous seasons have been really fun, season seven's definitely been one of the more fun ones for me, and one of the main reasons for that is because I. 318 00:18:38,714.5 --> 00:18:42,134.5 Um, I think obviously the addition of the armory brilliant. 319 00:18:42,164.5 --> 00:18:43,514.5 We needed this for a long time.
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Absolutely. 321 00:18:44,924.5 --> 00:18:48,74.5 that helps a lot with wanting to play more builds. 322 00:18:48,74.5 --> 00:18:48,770 It's the Mm-hmm. 323 00:18:48,854.5 --> 00:18:49,964.5 I've played the most builds on. 324 00:18:50,24.5 --> 00:18:57,995 I normally do get to about three or four builds and then I've kind of in the past got to point where it's like, I'm not sure I want to level up from scratch again and do all this, Right.
Yeah. 326 00:18:58,694.5 --> 00:19:03,734.5 ability to just take my class, I've got every class level to 60 now, so if I fancy paying a bill, you're just gonna swap over.
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Mm-hmm. 328 00:19:04,424.5 --> 00:19:07,34.5 get some gear, but you can off you go and have a bit of fun. 329 00:19:07,34.5 --> 00:19:08,54.5 So that's been really good. 330 00:19:08,294.5 --> 00:19:09,494.5 I mean, that's really good for the game. 331 00:19:09,944.5 --> 00:19:14,030 Um, I do feel like the game is a bit too fast right now, Okay.
Yeah. 333 00:19:14,354.5 --> 00:19:16,214.5 that they're trying to address that a little bit next season. 334 00:19:16,244.5 --> 00:19:20,834.5 I, I, I actually quite like the fact that the speed of the game can change season, season, it gives you a different feel. 335 00:19:20,954.5 --> 00:19:25,364.5 You probably don't want exactly the same feel every season, otherwise it just becomes a bit monotonous. 336 00:19:25,424.5 --> 00:19:27,824.5 But I think it was so fast this season. 337 00:19:28,229.5 --> 00:19:34,055 Uh, that by the end of the first day, a lot of people have basically completed the majority of what the content is right, right. 338 00:19:34,709.5 --> 00:19:38,729.5 that, that, you know, the whole question of end game aside. 339 00:19:39,89.5 --> 00:19:50,309.5 If you're blasting through the entire game and leaving yourself with virtually nothing left to aspire to do by the end of one day because it's so easy to do that, then yeah, you've pretty much got nothing to chew on. 340 00:19:51,629.5 --> 00:19:54,179.5 there's a few other things I think that could be improved here. 341 00:19:54,989.5 --> 00:19:59,9.5 From my per personal point of view, I mean, more aspirational content would be really nice. 342 00:19:59,9.5 --> 00:20:01,49.5 Like actually truly difficult bus fights. 343 00:20:01,49.5 --> 00:20:07,665 And they are, they are definitely got a few bits coming, uh, at least from what I experienced on the PCR, that people will Yeah. 344 00:20:07,709.5 --> 00:20:08,249.5 challenging.
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Yep. 346 00:20:09,89.5 --> 00:20:14,69.5 necessarily say they're like really, really hard, but they're definitely more challenging than what we've got and I think. 347 00:20:14,759.5 --> 00:20:19,169.5 was a bit overshadowed by the, the fact that we were able to cheat ourselves to Paragon 300. 348 00:20:19,169.5 --> 00:20:20,555 So, Of course. 349 00:20:20,669.5 --> 00:20:21,935 powers, Yeah, definitely. 350 00:20:22,19.5 --> 00:20:25,199.5 actually think those fights are going to be quite difficult, so that, that's gonna be really cool. 351 00:20:25,199.5 --> 00:20:26,279.5 I'm actually looking forward to that.
Yeah. 353 00:20:26,999.5 --> 00:20:30,119.5 that's actually truly not easy to just do. 354 00:20:30,599.5 --> 00:20:40,745 Um, and the one thing I feel like we do lack right now is just, uh, I, I, for the lack of better term, like the item chase, uh, for me it's a Okay. 355 00:20:40,889.5 --> 00:20:43,529.5 too easy to obtain absolutely everything in the game. 356 00:20:46,634.5 --> 00:20:50,54.5 I, the, the thing is that, that, that it is the audience they're trying to appeal to. 357 00:20:50,54.5 --> 00:20:52,775 So I kind of get it, but at the same time, Hmm. 358 00:20:53,144.5 --> 00:20:55,244.5 by not having anything that, you know. 359 00:20:56,39.5 --> 00:21:01,49.5 The very few people are going to have, and you can drop it anywhere, but it's super rare. 360 00:21:01,49.5 --> 00:21:03,29.5 And when you've got it, it's going to be godly.
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Mm-hmm. 362 00:21:03,989.5 --> 00:21:05,300 know that it's just Yeah. 363 00:21:05,369.5 --> 00:21:07,220 in a million sort of drop Yeah. 364 00:21:07,469.5 --> 00:21:09,209.5 nothing in the game that's like this. 365 00:21:09,299.5 --> 00:21:14,669.5 Um, you sort, you are going to get your build complete and you're gonna have nothing to chase for.
Okay. 367 00:21:15,389.5 --> 00:21:17,639.5 Um, you and you lose those wow moments. 368 00:21:17,879.5 --> 00:21:19,220 Like if I look back to Mm-hmm. 369 00:21:19,259.5 --> 00:21:20,219.5 I was a kid playing. 370 00:21:20,879.5 --> 00:21:22,379.5 Let's use Diablo two as an example. 371 00:21:22,379.5 --> 00:21:22,649.5 Here. 372 00:21:22,919.5 --> 00:21:27,125 You could play for 300 hours and then you'll drop your verse burro and the amount Okay. 373 00:21:27,239.5 --> 00:21:27,419.5 get. 374 00:21:27,449.5 --> 00:21:28,505 'cause you're like, oh Yeah. 375 00:21:28,559.5 --> 00:21:29,279.5 I dropped a burro. 376 00:21:30,479.5 --> 00:21:32,399.5 you know how valuable that's going to be. 377 00:21:32,879.5 --> 00:21:38,885 Um, now I'm not suggesting Diablo four should move entirely in that direction, but Something. 378 00:21:39,539.5 --> 00:21:40,955 yeah, something more to Something. 379 00:21:40,979.5 --> 00:21:42,605 to chase in Yeah. 380 00:21:42,629.5 --> 00:21:49,49.5 So I think I, I honestly, I think the Citadel would be a really good, a really good candidate for something like this.
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Yeah. 382 00:21:50,414.5 --> 00:21:51,764.5 I've only done it once this season. 383 00:21:51,764.5 --> 00:21:56,954.5 I did it the other day with, uh, another fellow content creator of friends because we were just doing it for fun. 384 00:21:56,954.5 --> 00:21:57,725 But there's Mm-hmm. 385 00:21:57,794.5 --> 00:22:00,374.5 any particular purpose to go and do it. 386 00:22:00,374.5 --> 00:22:03,824.5 And it's a, I think that would be a good opportunity to maybe explore there. 387 00:22:03,854.5 --> 00:22:08,415 If, you know, if I was to be asked what would be your one, you know, one Okay. 388 00:22:08,474.5 --> 00:22:10,035 of where you could do something Yeah. 389 00:22:10,64.5 --> 00:22:10,574.5 but, um. 390 00:22:11,339.5 --> 00:22:17,99.5 Uh, so I feel like the game's sort of in a position where it's, it's got a pretty good foundation no matter what anyone else says. 391 00:22:17,99.5 --> 00:22:19,349.5 The game is actually quite fun, that's why people still play it. 392 00:22:19,379.5 --> 00:22:21,359.5 It's really good at the multiplayer stuff. 393 00:22:21,809.5 --> 00:22:27,359.5 It's, I have a lot of fun playing with the community and other content creators, um, and playing all the builds I do. 394 00:22:27,719.5 --> 00:22:29,399.5 I wouldn't play it as much as I did if I didn't. 395 00:22:29,519.5 --> 00:22:30,989.5 Uh, fun is I, one for me.
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I agree. 397 00:22:32,819.5 --> 00:22:38,399.5 uh, I feel like, uh, season eight definitely looks like it's set to improve the game. 398 00:22:38,774.5 --> 00:22:45,374.5 Um, in, I, I think it's going to improve it because it'll make the journey a bit better, uh, smoother probably.
Right. 400 00:22:46,64.5 --> 00:22:47,594.5 that's gonna be a step in the right direction. 401 00:22:47,654.5 --> 00:22:54,764.5 I don't think everyone's gonna love it, but I think once people climatize back down from the speed of this season, they might like it more than they think.
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Okay. 403 00:22:56,654.5 --> 00:22:59,234.5 I'm pretty hopeful that the game will improve over time as well. 404 00:22:59,414.5 --> 00:23:03,674.5 Um, and that's coming from someone who's an avid gamer content creator. 405 00:23:03,674.5 --> 00:23:08,615 And I on the other side as an, uh, as a programmer and a gamer Yeah.
Yep. 407 00:23:09,734.5 --> 00:23:11,984.5 I actually do understand how. 408 00:23:12,944.5 --> 00:23:18,674.5 how much work goes into making a game like this and how much, uh, passion a lot of these people probably have. 409 00:23:18,824.5 --> 00:23:33,974.5 Um, so I, I'm usually quite empathetic to this kind of things, and I am, yeah, I'm hopeful that these guys will, will provide, you know, they'll give us more stuff to chew on and some really cool content and, and so I, I look forward to what's coming in future, to be honest. 410 00:23:33,974.5 --> 00:23:34,184.5 Yeah.
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Oh right.
Yeah, me too.
Something that somebody brought up to me the other day, which I thought was actually a really, really cool idea.
You give it a really, really, really low drop chance, but a mythic unique that can carry over from season to season.
Make it general across the whole entire class pool.
It has like a 0.01%
(23:54):
chance to drop, but if somebody gets lucky enough to find it, they can keep it from every season and just keeps on updating.
So you have an advantage right off the bat.
Uh, and on that really lucky chance to drop, I thought it was a kind of a cool idea. 420 00:24:08,864.5 --> 00:24:13,124.5 Yeah, I I, this is the, this is the great thing about games like this and game development. 421 00:24:13,274.5 --> 00:24:17,444.5 Um, you know, there's so many ways you could do, you could solve the same puzzle.
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yeah.
So many ways.
Yeah. 425 00:24:19,634.5 --> 00:24:21,974.5 that's just one of many different things they could do. 426 00:24:21,974.5 --> 00:24:23,504.5 I mean, it is quite an intriguing idea. 427 00:24:23,504.5 --> 00:24:25,184.5 That's definitely not something I've seen done. 428 00:24:26,39.5 --> 00:24:28,319.5 these games? 'cause most, well it's pretty typical. 429 00:24:28,319.5 --> 00:24:30,599.5 The games completely reset the economy and off you go.
Yeah. 431 00:24:31,559.5 --> 00:24:36,710 and you might carry over, like in Diablo four, your renowned, which is, you know, much needed in Mm-hmm. 432 00:24:36,749.5 --> 00:24:39,869.5 But, um, in most cases you're pretty much starting from, from flat. 433 00:24:39,869.5 --> 00:24:40,865 So, Yeah. 434 00:24:40,919.5 --> 00:24:42,640 um, yeah, that's quite an interesting Okay. 435 00:24:42,794.5 --> 00:24:42,914.5 sure.
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All right.
Well, that was the last question I have for you.
Thank you for your time.
Now, before we go anywhere, I wanted you to shout out what you got going on in your content creation world.
Let everybody know where they can find you at. 441 00:24:54,449.5 --> 00:24:54,599.5 Huh. 442 00:24:55,439.5 --> 00:24:55,859.5 Okay. 443 00:24:55,919.5 --> 00:24:58,349.5 Um, so I'm mostly live on a Twitch. 444 00:24:58,439.5 --> 00:24:59,279.5 Um, yep. 445 00:24:59,309.5 --> 00:25:00,59.5 Immortalized. 446 00:25:00,149.5 --> 00:25:01,709.5 Uh, I do a little bit on YouTube. 447 00:25:01,709.5 --> 00:25:06,620 I'm gonna be getting into Path of Exile two, uh, as a lot of people will be Yep. 448 00:25:06,629.5 --> 00:25:12,689.5 the next week or two with a little bit of Diablo still, um, playing in the community, trying out some more off meta builds and just playing some of the builds. 449 00:25:12,689.5 --> 00:25:13,889.5 I haven't had a chance to play. 450 00:25:14,714.5 --> 00:25:15,254.5 until now. 451 00:25:15,254.5 --> 00:25:17,954.5 So, um, that's mostly what I'll be focused on. 452 00:25:17,954.5 --> 00:25:20,894.5 I I want to try and get a bit, a bit of last EPOCH in as well. 453 00:25:21,104.5 --> 00:25:22,595 We're absolutely blessed in Okay. 454 00:25:22,634.5 --> 00:25:28,334.5 with all of the act, all of the A RPG content to, uh, to cover if you want to. 455 00:25:28,424.5 --> 00:25:35,654.5 Um, and then season, season eight, Diablo four will be, uh, we'll be down on the ground full throttle when that drops. 456 00:25:35,684.5 --> 00:25:40,64.5 Um, I will likely do a 24 hour stream on the release date and blast. 457 00:25:40,424.5 --> 00:25:41,684.5 And try and get to T four. 458 00:25:41,684.5 --> 00:25:42,530 We'll see how Nice. 459 00:25:42,644.5 --> 00:25:49,454.5 'cause none of us really know how difficult that's going to be Um, we don't know what's coming since the PTR, so we'll see. 460 00:25:49,484.5 --> 00:25:52,754.5 But that's, uh, that's pretty much it for me right now. 461 00:25:52,874.5 --> 00:25:55,740 And, uh, yeah, just carry Okay. 462 00:25:55,844.5 --> 00:25:57,725 good time, Well, thank you.
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