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December 17, 2025 7 mins

Have you ever reached the point where you’ve done everything "right"—taken the courses, read the books, practiced the tools—and yet you still feel completely empty?

 

In this episode, Dr. Marshack explores the "exhaustion of the checklist." We dive into a heartfelt message from a community member who burned out on the Seven Steps, asking the critical question: What comes after the effort? 

 

This episode is an invitation to move beyond the quick fix and into the quiet, uncomfortable space where transformation actually happens. Learn why growth isn't a task list, why relief doesn't last when it's sought through external certainty, and how Radiant Empathy begins the moment you stop measuring progress and start experiencing presence. 

 

If you've done all the steps and still feel like you're failing, take heart, you aren't failing; you're arriving.

 

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If you are looking for more resources for NeuroDivergent relationships, start with Unlocking NeuroDivergent Relationships, a Comprehensive Resource Preview.

 

The Discussion Continues: Join the confidential Podcast After Party for this episode! Check the schedule at Thinkific and the Meetup group.

 

Future of Healing: Dr. Kathy is developing two innovative video games: Radiant Empathy: A Journey of Heartbreak and Healing and The University of NeuroDiversity: Radiant Empathy Campus. 

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