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Welcome back to the second episode of
next mood swing if this is your first time here my name is jesse hit that like
and subscribe button to stay notified of new video drops first i want to thank
you to all that's who subscribed shared reposted interacted with the first episode
i did not expected to do that well. I am beyond grateful.
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Hosting and interviewing is something I did for a really long time and haven't
done since COVID really.
And not only am I feel like I'm rusty, but I was really nervous putting out a project of my own.
Sometimes after you haven't done something for a while, you feel like,
is this really what I want to do?
Or am I still good at it and building that kind of strength to believe in yourself.
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And I think that this is the perfect guest for this episode because we talked
a lot about it, about believing in yourself and building a brand.
Today's guest is Donnell Blaylock Jr. aka Donnie Savage. He's an actor, model, influencer.
You've seen him in movies, TV shows, tons of music videos, and if not,
you've definitely seen him cross your feed.
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But he came by the other day and we talked a lot about the pressures of being
a creative, making it in LA, developing a brand.
And then we got high and talked about Snapchat. So I left that in there because
it was funny and it's low-key how we ended the episode.
So I hope you guys enjoy it and leave a comment down below.
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Donnie Savage in the building. What's good?
It has been, I'm going to set this up for you guys because the last time I was
with Donnie, It was After Buzz tonight.
He came in. We shot a whole show, whole episode. He was about to get ready to
go on a trip to the Jack Daniels Distillery.
Yeah. And then COVID happened. COVID. That week.
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Well, but did you get to go back to the distillery? I did. I did.
They pushed it back to 2022.
And that was a dream come true for me. I feel like it probably made it a better
experience, right? It did. Now they're open for you.
Yeah. And it's like, we gonna give you the whole shebang.
Yeah, I mean, and we got to, I got the chance to kick it with other creatives,
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you know, just different walks of life, different backgrounds.
Kicked it with some people from the actual company. And then that next day we
spent the entire day in Lynchburg, Tennessee at the distillery,
getting the tour, meeting the assistant master distiller.
She, Lexi Phillips, shout out to you. You're amazing.
She's the first assistant master distiller, woman, first one.
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So we gave her her kudos. We had a tasting with her.
Broke down every single last, I can't say every single one because there was
some exclusive flavors that I didn't even know existed. Jack Daniels is your ish.
So we had to make sure that we had it here for you today. You know what I'm saying?
So you're a man of many talents. You are inspiring to me just because you've
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put yourself in so many different positions.
And then, you know, kind of, because that episode didn't air,
we got to kind of rewind for the people. But you're from Michigan. Yeah.
And you were doing real estate and you went viral.
And you guys check out his vlog because he goes into a deep detail of what happened.
Check it out. But that's how I met you. I was doing Black Hollywood Live,
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this music show. And I had this girl, Queen, as a host.
And she was like, look at him. I was like, who's that?
She was like, just the way he's eating that chocolate. And you went viral for
this moment. And almost before viral was really, now everything goes viral, right?
And that's really why I wanted to bring you here today is to kind of get into
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your brain as far as being an influencer, what the influencer life is like,
the affiliate lifestyle.
Going viral and creating a brand off of that.
First, what inspired you to even want to be an entrepreneur?
Because this is obviously something that you just have inside of you.
You this might sound fucking stupid but
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as as a kid i was fascinated with batman and
like bruce wayne and obviously obviously they're
the same person but they have two different personalities you know what i mean
you got the alter ego you have the real person but that bruce wayne was he was
a businessman obviously he inherited that wealth but he had to keep it running
oh man i just i fell in love with the whole that whole sentiment of the vigilante
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by night businessman this man by day.
And I had no idea it was going to turn into this, you know, but I always knew,
it's like, man, I got, I got these crazy dreams, man. I gotta,
I gotta, I gotta figure this out.
So as a young guy growing up in Michigan, how did you attain those resources
to be able to kind of get into that entrepreneurial mindset?
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I got to give a shout out to my mentor, Don Pullian. He passed in 2020.
There was a guy back home as well. His name is Dallas Wade.
And he was pursuing the modeling stuff before I even thought about it as well.
He was doing the reality TV.
And I think he was on America's Next Top Model. So he was getting into real
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estate. This was around like 2014.
Yeah, the end of 2014. And I'm like, I've always been fascinated with real estate.
I was like, man, it's just something about it.
You know, being a real estate agent, selling homes. It was like that prestige.
You know, I remember he was getting into it and I reached out.
I was I was interested as well.
And he was willing to introduce me, you know, to that mentor,
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Don Pullian. And we were his assistants.
You know, we were earning our stripes, man. We in the office at eight o'clock
in the morning. Sometimes I'm seeing him more than I see my own family.
At this point like we're just we're sending out his listings his postcards we're
learning the mls system inputting the stuff like his listings into the mls system
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because he he wasn't that tech savvy so we had to figure that out for him but
yeah it was then it came to this point where,
dallas went off and he moved to la and he was pursuing the america's next top
model thing i i literally remember we were in the office and he was getting
his paperwork and stuff set up so he He can, you know, he can submit and do that thing.
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And he went off and it was just me and Don. And I was like, I still want to stick with real estate.
And he encouraged me to get my license. He didn't want me to be his assistant anymore.
He was like, you know, you know, this like the back of your hand,
like you do this for me all the time. I want you to go get your license.
I was like, fuck it. That's what I did.
Okay. So then from that, when did you end up moving to L.A.?
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I didn't. So, okay. I got my license in 2015.
The video goes viral at the end of 2015. I didn't move to LA until 2020.
So I was still in Michigan. I had to fly here, fly there for certain gigs.
So I met you just as you was fresh to LA. Yeah.
And obviously, I had been here before for work. But as far as being really immersing
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myself in this city, I didn't really know shit. I didn't know what was what.
And that's actually really interesting because one of the questions I wanted
to talk to you about, but now that makes...
A whole lot of no sense, but life here in LA as an influencer,
pre COVID versus COVID as just in the hosting world, it was a,
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I see a huge difference in it.
I feel like COVID just kind of put this wash over the entertainment industry,
but for you, as far as influencing and getting into the world of influencer,
you just get out here and then COVID happens.
Happens right so what was your
mindset were you scared were you like oh i gotta get out of here
i gotta go back home how where did your focus go
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as far as like making money and figuring out
because la ain't for the faint of heart no it's not
this shit is not for the weak at that point in time you
just have to roll with the punches it was like whatever brand collaboration
i was wrapping up gotta hold on to this
and obviously they had like the the covid relief fund and
stuff like that so you had to take full advantage
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of that until it was so we could figure something out to
be able to pivot i just yeah i i don't
sugarcoat shit i'll be the first one to tell you and that's honestly
that's why i've always fucked with you i appreciate the first conversation we
had i was like yo this guy's real as fuck and i just i just genuinely admire
that in a world in a world of la where you know i hate when people are like
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oh people in la are so stuck it's like like those are the people you're surrounding
yourself with they're a good that's right and.
I've met again it's the reason i'm still here you know the reason i'm here is
not really career-wise i can work anywhere with the job i have but it's more
my friends and the people that i've built i love being around creatives and
again with you you know we have acting modeling influencing influencing,
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was there a game plan with you as far as like, you know, more sort of for people
watching that want to, you know, not be you, but get into the lifestyle that you live.
What would you recommend as far as, you know, figuring out what your brand is?
Cause you have Savage, right? Donnie Savage, right? So where did the Savage come from?
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Where, What was the mentality behind creating a brand?
Damn, that could kind of be a loaded question. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, I'll take it back. I'll take it back to Savage, man. That was some shit
that just came about in college.
My group of friends that I went to high school with, that I graduated with,
and a couple of guys that were ahead of me, some of my best friends.
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We would go to the college parties, man. We'd probably go 10, 15 deep.
And then, I don't know. I don't even know how this shit came about because they
were calling us savage and we just ran with it. It just became like a clique.
Yeah, it ran with it. Nah, but I was like, I was like, nah.
I'm i'm running with this because it was a
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different perspective it was so and i
had to look up the definition to make it make sense for me to really
if i'm like i'm gonna do this i gotta really do this and i
picked i gotta go to the tattoo i got my
savage tattoo when i was i don't know maybe like 21 or something
and what that signified for me the
tiger being he's a loner you know
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he's look i'm a fucking alpha too
i'm gonna get it by any means my take was
mine that's the savage that's what it meant for me so i
was like i'm gonna just run with this shit but still
not knowing it was gonna turn into what it is today
because i love that you said tiger yeah his.
Favorite animal most people the same most people go for the lion but
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i love that you say tiger because they bigger they just they
low-key batter if you really watch national geographic demographic i'm tigers
they're not like the lion i don't really
say it's the king of the jungle but if you gotta if
you're talking about pound for pound but a tiger literally lives in
the jungle facts facts exactly a
lion is out here lying they lying that's you
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know what i mean i can get that as far as like having conversations with
different influencers out here right is the ups and
downs are going viral right so your video goes viral
you have every girl looking at at you like who
is this man he's so fine you come to la all the
girls are probably throwing themselves at you right how do
you deal with that when something goes viral for
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you what is that like like in the
sense of is it a high is it a chase of like
okay well now i gotta do the next viral thing and did you get
caught up with that at all is there a point where
you had to feel like okay you kind of saw the reality
of what the business in la is like
tell me about that experience mentally because i
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think we live in an age when it happened for you it was a rare
like i feel like it was a rare thing for people to
go viral right where now it's almost
like i mean anyone could do something every single day and
something can go viral it's tiktok so many people
are doing a dance or whatever it is.
So much covid allowed so much more access to things
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going viral right i mean look like bro
i'm from i'm from fucking grand rapids michigan like not
not to not to downplay the city but at
that time especially in 2015 nobody knew what
the fuck viral was i barely knew what viral like i i yeah i'm on social media
and i and i knew because i mean youtube was still like prominent you know as
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far as like having real influencers and then obviously it shifted to instagram
but i was so new with that shit i'm like okay i got a video that went viral
and I'm a real estate agent.
I'm showing houses. Like I was playing with the idea of modeling and stuff.
I'm like, people said, well, you should try doing it. And I'm like,
all right, you know what I'm saying? I think.
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I ain't got to be the best looking guy in the world, but I think I can do this shit, you know?
Not thinking it was something that was going to strike. That's the thing.
When the shit actually hits and it takes off, I watched my phone.
Just my phone has not been, like I don't ever really have my ringer on. Same.
And I haven't had notifications for like any social.
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Well, it is now. It's like Snap, and I'm working on that app of like cultivating it.
But I haven't really had notifications on since 2015.
I watched my phone battery drain from
all the hits from facebook it was like 2.8 million
views in 24 hours my my
uh my broker i mean she was always cool.
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You know i'm saying she's a little extra friendly this time you know i
got i got seen the way he was eating that i got the
news calling me on my way to work i'm like
all right like they do
interviews and shit but okay then i get
to the office and they're standing there like yo
like what what is this what what happened i don't fucking
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know and like my my boy my
right hand man he was uh he got into real estate
as well so i remember us just sitting in the car and
i'm seeing all these articles come out i'm like inman inman was
like top four real estate websites i
guess for like the news and things like that and essence
and the fucking black i
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think it's like black doctor org or something like that it's like a big black
dog yeah like like a blog because you
went it was a nurse outfit right oh no no so it
it was the chocolate video first okay and then
we followed up like we had some more in the archive okay we
was just like yeah we was dropping this shit like it
was fucking albums and shit like mixtapes did
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you drop a calendar did you have a calendar no i didn't i ended up
doing a calendar did you ever get like poached by like a magic mike or like
that kind of a because you say they douse wade and now i remember who he is
yeah that's the world i feel like he would be in so right well to answer that
question oddly enough i had a boy back home i'm in kyle fueler shout out to you bro.
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The Magic Mike thing, it popped up in Detroit, and he was a part of that.
I think they called themselves Magic Men. Okay.
And I remember him doing his thing. He was touring, just bought his Jeep Wrangler,
everything. He's doing it.
He reaches out, and he's like, yo, I think you would be perfect for this, this, this, and that.
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And I was like, damn, I don't really know if that's my thing, though.
I'm not judging, but I just don't know if that's my thing. like
i want to i want to take a different approach with this
because i'm thinking i'm like shit if i went viral and
i garnered this much attention i'm like man maybe
we can maybe we can do gq maybe we can do cosmopolitan like
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whatever is you know the the top publications at that time so i'm like i'm just
trying to figure this shit out a different way and then boom we end up in sheen
magazine and cosmopolitan germany fucking penelope cruz is on the front i got
this whole spread and i'm I'm like, how the fuck did I even get here?
Because I had to think about it. I went home recently.
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I was going through my old stuff. So I still had, like, all these,
my magazines from, like, Sports Illustrated and everything.
And I found the Sheen magazine. It had Singer Monica on the front of that one.
Donnie Savage on the cover. And then Cosmopolitan with Penelope Cruz.
I'm flipping open and I see my publication. I'm like, damn.
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I didn't even understand what that was at the time. Like, I appreciate it a
lot more now, you know? I was like, damn, that was a big fucking deal.
Damn. Isn't it crazy, like, when you're in the moment of the actual hypness?
Yeah. And people think, like, people's perspective, right?
And I think I was texting you or sent you an email about some of the topics
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I wanted to talk about because, like.
The perception of yourself versus the perception
of other people right and what was that experience
like like you go live like you know i mean you're
saying you're like i think i'm like i don't think i'm the finest thing but like
i think i could do modeling like and all of a sudden you blow up and
like all these women are like you're in these magazines
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like yeah did was it did
you feel this pressure of trying to uphold because
here's my thing with influencers yeah and like being in la
right in la i feel like a lot of people chase this
high like when i was doing after buzz i
fell into that i wasn't like trying to be a host
in la it just i fell into it we built this company it
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was cool i'm fucking sitting with j-lo like
yeah who the fuck wouldn't want to fucking keep doing that right so i'm
like all right this is cool i'm not like trying to build a brand off
it at that time like i just was like
this is a cool opportunity like i
have to actually go to work and then i i come here and i do this and
this is fucking cool and like but then you meet
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these people that create this illusion like it's i
don't want to say that they create an illusion or that maybe it's they
have an illusion in their head end of almost like
fake it till you make it right right did you ever feel like when going viral
like it's like you felt like you had to keep up with a lifestyle running around
in la or even maybe in michigan at some point where it's like okay you you got
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this high, the high does not last.
And that's something that I really want people at home to kind of have this
understanding of the work that actually goes into building a brand, a career,
like you've put the work in, you know, it wasn't just this one thing that,
you know, yes, it helped catapult you, but you understood how to take that little piece and flip it. Yeah.
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What's interesting about this is obviously I I've experienced it in both places,
but I would say even more so back home because like there's motion here.
I was in a place where i could really only be on that high when i was in places
you know where there was motion you know it was like leading up to the next
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thing so in my down time like,
you know you obviously run into people like hell yo what you got what you got
coming now i don't know and i don't know i'm just like i'm just doing this as
much as i would want it to be structured you don't even work like that right
you know what i'm saying is like this this opportunity presents itself.
So you don't do it or you're not going to do it.
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You don't, you don't know what the potential upside is going to be until you
do it. And then whatever happens happens after that.
So now I can totally relate to that. So how do you create a mental fortitude
to be able to withstand that, that kind of lifestyle?
I mean, you got to go through some shit. You got to really go through some shit.
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Like early on, I've, I've had those bad experiences with like managers and this is like,
six seven years ago so a lot of the shit i experienced early on and so by the
time i got out here my antennas was already up and i was like even if i didn't
fully understand the situation i'm like that shit don't make sense i'm gonna
holler at somebody i know.
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You give them the spiel and like yo what you think about this and like no that
shit don't make sense either okay well i was on track so i'm not gonna second
guess myself you know and,
it's just a part of the game like everybody earns their
stripes differently you you some people have that
learning curve some people learn the hard way i had to
learn the hard way and had to get burned and stuff but it
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was the best thing that ever happened to me like i don't i don't
look look at that as a negative lessons facts yeah
facts and i would love to know actually your
opinion more so because i've lived in la for almost 15
years yeah yeah yes and for sure
i'm really comfortable i've always been really
comfortable with myself yeah you know i mean
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like i'm not like a workout head but like i
work out but because when
i go home out here i have this thing in my head that is like
oh oh my god i'm putting on weight oh i
need to not eat that oh i need not do this then i go home
and i look at everyone around i'm like my family like my very
greek just he's so skinny i'm like
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i'm skinny i feel i get that too i get this i feel like i'm
fat like how do you how is he
do you kind of deal with that with like if you've ever had to deal with the
body dysmorphia or anything like that like is that something you've ever had
to you know that you struggle with or have struggled with like i've always been
into sports and just like an athlete and in the gym like that's one of my favorite
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things to do like before anything anything.
But obviously you had these added layers when you have like this,
this attention and I'll be the first one to admit like 2017 when,
when I broke apart from my old manager,
I was on my own at that point in time.
It was a decision that I had to make and I didn't fully, like I couldn't grasp like where I was headed.
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I was just doing shit. So I even took time away from,
I'm not going to say that the physicality, but I don't know,
man, I was just kind of like slumped and depressed.
I don't know if I want to do this shit because it was just do that shit.
Because I know you talked about wanting to leave acting and stuff like that.
Like what was during that time? What was that thing?
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Well, it was it was just the the bad relationship we had at that time,
the bad the bad business relationship.
So I'm like, OK, we were doing this as a team at one point in time.
Time and i really i kind of wasn't feeling
how certain things were going and like sometimes
you gotta crash and burn sometimes you gotta sink the fucking shit
and i was willing to do that to be able to revive my brand like that's what
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i gotta do that's what i gotta do but i also i went through so much within that
time frame where it shit i didn't i got to 210 pounds and shit and i'm like
yo what the fuck are you doing bro you know this ain't even you like you like food.
Because i'd be seeing your food vlogs i'm but you'd be making
you'd be making food look good i'm like yeah well let me
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go see with that somehow let me go i and i
needed to find a balance you know i'm saying like i
i gained that weight and i just didn't feel like myself and i
had to do something about it so i remember at the end of 2017
i was like i'm about to get this shit another shot i
started shooting again i got back in the gym i dropped like
15 pounds and then going into to
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2018 that was like my second
wind right there that was the boot up video when i got that
i got that email you know it was
crazy the way i got that email because i was playing 2k in my parents
basement trying to figure out what the fuck i was about to do next
and that man sarah sarah shout
out to you she cashed me in the chris brown music
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video 2015 i hadn't spoken to her
in three years and she just so happened to fucking send that
email 10 o'clock at night i could have missed the email i could have like been
asleep for some and i saw it and she put everything together sent my information
got that flight the next day shot for like 10 12 hours was on the flight back
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home no and it's crazy because it's so inconspicuous like you would never know,
and then boom boot up comes out and i'm like all right man we got we got this
second round Everyone's like, ooh, that boy.
Do you feel like people support you less with your shirt on?
Probably. Man, you just got to like. And this is a crucial one right here.
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That switch has to go off for you at some point in time that you got to make content for yourself.
Obviously, some content is going to be based on the algorithm,
depending on what you're trying to get from it.
But wholeheartedly, the content has to come from you organically.
You know so if you're just doing some shit like i'm about to take the shirt
off because i know it's gonna work,
all right i mean people got a certain expectation if that's
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what you lead with every single time so you you have
to i guess not give a fuck it has to
be a certain point of time that's which goes off to not give a fuck
and like hey i'll do this or i'm into this
i'm into this because that's that's what happened to me like i like to have
real conversations that are in depth and we peel back layers i'm a fucking nerd
bro like i got i got a fucking harry potter tattoo and shit again surviving
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in la is a whole fucking thing bro so how did you learn to love yourself.
Versus loving yourself through the way other people
saw you is that something you even dealt with or
yeah yeah man look like i said i've been through a lot man depression everything
when you're not getting those crazy hits of dopamine when shit slows down because
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that's the part people don't want to talk about so sometimes the partnerships
were a gift and a curse because Because, look, I had alcohol partnerships,
but I was also going through real shit at the same time of still trying to figure out life.
And I remember the times where it was, other than Dallas, and he left,
I was the only person really doing what I was doing. So I couldn't relate to anybody.
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And I mean, I would speak to my friends, you know, my close-knit friends,
because they were my day ones.
But as far as, like, being able to have some real dialogue to be like,
look, bro, like, just casual conversations.
Being like look look at my dms these dms are fucking crazy i don't even i don't
even know i literally went from like i never had an issue like talking to women or shit like that but,
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it was such a crazy influx i wasn't even ready for that you know i'm saying
just just women just throwing themselves at you and i don't know they may have
may have not given me the time of day at at one point in time and now,
now it's all of a sudden a change of heart and I'm like nah I got the juice now yeah yeah.
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Fine but but i
mean but on a serious note not not having
anybody to relate to kind of
put me in my own bubble so i was just going through like
damn i don't know when this next brand deal was going to come or i
was used to having that manager who who
also played the role as photographer and videographer shoot
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my content because i wasn't i couldn't define myself as
a full-fledged content creator because i wasn't shooting my own
content so i even had to i
had to figure that out so you're talking about a time where
it would almost be taboo to see a fucking tripod and a phone or a camera and
somebody in the street you know like people looking at me crazy oh before covid
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yes 100 and then i mean obviously there was there were instances where i had
professional photographers when i was shooting content people don't know what
the fuck we're doing because nobody's nobody's even thinking about this.
I just, I went through a lot of not being able to relate to certain people and
have those real conversations.
Like I'm glad it's turned into what it's turned into now because you have like
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a real sense of community.
But the point I was trying to
make is the fact that I would get cases of fucking alcohol from Bel Air.
Like I'm talking the first time they sent me a package, they sent me 32 bottles.
You got easy access to all these bottles and and you're going through shit.
So, yeah, kill a fucking bottle or something. Not even not even knowing that I'm sinking.
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But it was it was a real fucking thing. And then my boy is like,
bro, what the fuck are you doing?
Taking shots at nine o'clock
in the morning i'm like bro you don't understand this this
life i'm living is so different and i'm not saying it to put it on a
pedestal it's just so fucking different from every day because everybody's going
to work my work is in-house and what and what i make it to be you know i mean
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it's like within seconds yeah like your daily day like you can take a whole
day off but then that next day all right you gotta look at them emails you gotta
see all What can I connect real quick?
Make sure I link it up for two days from now. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying. It was
so taboo. I love the fact that we can have conversations like this now.
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Because I had so much bottled up and so many ideas and thoughts in my head that
I could never really say.
Obviously, I can hop on social media and talk about it.
But as far as to have somebody that actually does what I do and be like,
hey, how do you feel about this? And they know what I'm talking about.
It was like unheard of at that time. As far as like figuring out who Donnie
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Savage is, what the Savage brand is like, you know what I mean?
I keeping morals, values of who you were, are, and you know,
grow that, that growing up phase of figuring out who Donnie is.
It's crazy what death does to you because experiencing that,
like with my pops and just, that was, that was a whole ordeal in itself that
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really, how did that freeze your mind?
Did it, did it freeze your mind or did it end up freeing your mind?
Oh, I'll, I'll tell you, I'll tell you this portion. Like, I don't want to make
this like long winded, but I'll tell you this portion.
I remember this was like November of 2022.
I'm filming season two of a show called Lace and like my, my pops,
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he, he has lymphoma at this time.
And I want to say, I don't know. He's having complications. I remember this.
He's having fucking complications. Thanks for watching.
And I just remember, like, I have to go to work. I got to go to set.
But my main focus is calling my mom, checking in, like, hey, what's going on?
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My mom is like, yo, you had two, three seizures just over the weekend alone.
I had just wrapped my show.
But as he was going through that, you know, you're running. I'm running into
the director and she did this thing where she would ask us how we were doing every single day.
And I'm just like, I'm just OK.
I had no problem saying that because like, yeah, I'm not fucking peachy every
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single day, but I'm I'm here. I'm OK. And I'm gonna do my job.
So and I appreciate her for not, you know, like, yo, what's up? What's up with you?
I'm here. Focus. I'm gonna do it to best my ability. And I got to bounce.
I don't even go to the wrap party. I bounce and went straight home.
And it was crazy because I remember being in the Denver, the Denver airport.
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And my mom calls me it was like he has
two weeks to live i'm like oh shit i
had i had to face that alone and i
remember getting when you say alone you mean
alone because you were out here in la you weren't around family well
like i got i got my my tight-knit group in la but i'm
saying that alone as far as you'll only ever understand this like if you've
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gone through it you know i'm saying so like it's hard to even explain that feeling
to somebody if they never witnessed that but i get i get back home and that's
the only thing that ever mattered to me so it's crazy,
i didn't realize the emergence of who i was becoming when i was going through
that but the the most important thing to me was family i was like damn.
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That's the only thing I could think about, but I'm, I'm here and I'm working
with some shit that my heart is not fully in. So I was like, fuck this shit.
We finished and when we left off, I told my dad what I was going to do,
how I was going to do it. I'm banking on me.
That's, that's the brand. That's the, sorry, that's, that's the brand.
That's the merch. That's anything I want to do.
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Because one thing I've always been good at is cultivating relationships.
I take my relationships very seriously. obviously i check in with people who
tap in for instance we hadn't seen each other in a long time but shit is like
that time didn't even matter you feel me exactly and those those are the are
the small things those are the details that a lot of people overlook and i can confidently say.
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I don't really know a person that can fucking like out network me
or i mean you may have better relationships you
know than me to a certain degree but as far as put you
in yeah put me put me in in coach put me in
put me in the fucking room bro i don't care if it's the ceo the
the billionaire it don't it don't fucking matter treat them all the same like i
don't i don't make that difference these are fucking regular ass
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people at the end of the day you feel me and that's
what i feel like the people i know who really make it
out here are the ones that can see past that and understand
how to navigate through it because you got to play the game yeah to
a certain extent you don't gotta be at the ditty party if you go to the ditty party
you gotta leave by 2 a.m i was wondering if i
was i was gonna i was gonna throw you once you said once
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you said certain things i was like well you know because
another thing too in la like just as like a straight.
Guy like you know you get the gay stuff and it's
like and it's like oh well you know i can imagine
what you've been propositioned in life it's have
you ever have you ever been to a ditty party where they proposition this
shit down i just wanted to put it out there hey no
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but yeah man
like it happens it has it's crazy and man
i was i was literally just talking about this the other
day and obviously it may be more relatable for for women because i guess they
they maybe get the bulk of it and it's more like in your face out out in the
forefront but i i can relate to that because i know how that feels whether it's
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coming from a woman or somebody is.
Meaning getting like attention from someone you don't really like.
But then it's funny because you got, you got guys that like try to fake kick it.
And when I mean like fake kick it and pump fake is they try to act like we on
the same page as being cool.
Like we, like we're into the same thing to basically just get you to let your
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guard down. You feel me? Like, oh yeah, we boys, blah, blah, blah.
And then that's when that's when like the random comment comes out.
Are you like, what the fuck?
And I'll be cool. I know he's on that on that type of time. You know,
so but but it's like you're not even thinking about it.
At that time because you're just in the moment and everybody's cool
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kicking it and then somebody says some off the wall shit to you you
can't you can't like sweeping under the rug because like you got to
take a mental note of okay if this
is the tone that we set you know we got the
boundaries we know where we we all stand and shit everybody's respectful
it's cool but the minute you start to
like cross the boundaries is where we have a problem and it doesn't matter
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like what you're into at that point in time like i don't give a fuck if
i say this is where i stand this is where i stand
i totally respect what you do i don't care what you do that's when
this shit gets weird because you have people that will still try you
regardless just like ah just maybe if and look
man we ain't fucking hollywood bro and what i've always
respected about your brand is that you just look
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i'm regular i'm just out here i'm doing yeah i'm modeling
i'm doing my influencing my my affiliation i gotta.
Get that some like my parents have just always not not
specifically about that but just always giving me game always being
like hey i just say your friend
ain't your friend you know there's certain people and that
was the la lesson no facts and my mom was telling me
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this i'm like four five you know
she was giving me game at an early age my pops gave me
so much game it's like you
just keep it so real with me at an early age that i
was i was like in tune with certain certain stuff that was
going on and it's like you see my
parents had me when they were like 17 18 i'm 32 so we we're like not extremely
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far apart we kind of in a sense grew up together you feel me so a lot of a lot
of shit we got just all experience yeah same same time so So I was really in
tune being around adults all the time,
you know, like what was going on, pops is like, hey.
Which I feel like created the loner in you because I can relate to that.
Honestly, hearing you say that.
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How do you deal with burnout? Man, I went through extreme burnout trying to
just juggle so many things.
And that was one of the reasons why I was like, I need a clean slate to just
recalibrate. When was that?
I would say it's been really happening over the course of the last year or so.
It just finally came to a head.
With acting, I mean, that was theatrical. That was commercial.
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That was print. on top of content creation on
top of doing a podcast just wearing
you know so many hats and sometimes one lane
may outweigh the other depending on you know what the situation is
obviously went through a pandemic and a strike that
was just pure turmoil but i'll definitely say this
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man i definitely had the opportunity to work on
some dope projects and still be able to work those acne
muscles but then it's like then what
then i'm back to the anxiety
and feeling antsy and shit and i'm like it was
something about sitting sitting around and
waiting for that call that just didn't didn't sit well
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with me anymore like at one point in time as far as acting yeah
yeah at one point in time i was like okay this is this is the game you
agent submit you blah blah hey you get
it or you don't get it and i'm like nah man i gotta take
my power back like i i've met
too many amazing people and like where
i can be really tapped in like hey you want to do this or you
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want to do this we can potentially partner on this i'm like why the fuck would
i just sit and just wait around i don't want to wait around i could i could
be proactive that's more time and energy i could put into my youtube or my own
brand where i can do my vlogs I can have talking points, integrate merch,
still have brand partnerships, like for me.
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And I don't want to get this misconstrued because obviously being invited to
other people's projects, like that's a good thing and it could be astronomical.
But you don't own shit. Well, so explain that.
Because obviously you were in one of the biggest movies of the past five years
coming to America, too. Yeah. I mean, every situation is different.
But people on the outside looking in have this misconception that everything
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is going to be like, you're going to get extreme fucking pay.
And they don't understand syndication.
Or you're going to get the next gig. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I mean, I got paid maybe a couple hundred dollars for that.
So when when you have situations like that you have to really map that out it's
like the exposure and the prestige the pay may be on a lower scale but you gotta
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you gotta think in advance of what you could potentially do people gonna see
you yeah yeah like that's and that's and to be fair,
that's some shit people can't even pay for because i'm
i'm thinking i'm thinking about everything as as a leverage at
the end of the day like okay i don't have to get paid
some crazy amount for this because but you don't see my face
even if you don't fucking know me you won't see my face and
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then so i love that you're explaining that
because i think that's a real thing that you know we have this idea
of like how to make it yeah or what making it looks like and so for you like
go check out his youtube channel because you got some dope you got some dope
vlogs and i like that your vlogs are like not the like good morning like bro
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i'm i'm a stoner i'm probably no and i love that do Do we want to smoke right now?
I would. But I'm going to get you high today.
All right. You just brought up reality TV. Okay. That's exactly the avenue I
wanted to go down with you.
Okay. So have you ever thought about reality TV?
Was that a thing that you thought about at the time? How did that work out?
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Like some years ago. I mean, when I was, shit, 23, 24, I toyed with the idea.
And, but like, this is a thing. it's kind
of a catch-22 if there's gonna be a storyline about
me i want to be able to tell the fucking story speak
on because that's the reality of
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reality tv that people and the fact that you even know that without have being
on reality tv is yeah go ahead yeah i just was there a show that ever poached
you i've been there was a real estate one when i was doing real estate at at
the time it was that situation that was going on out here just didn't end up doing it.
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When love island came to the states they they reached out i think like so what
held you what was it really that held you was it that you knew people in reality
that you were like okay they put me on the game of what because that's for me
yeah yeah you because like having that inside scoop,
it peels back the layers you get to really see what's what i'm
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like damn i'm like from my own and this is
and this is not to put a damper on it it just really depends on
how you flip that that shit i mean you but you got to be strategic about
it it was just for me up front there's a
stigma that comes at reality tv and i
was like i want to be taken seriously like
yeah i was doing the influencer stuff but i
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wanted the option to jump into hollywood if you know
if i so pleased to do it but i wanted to be obviously there
was a stigma with influencers as well but i was like shit i was in fucking acting
classes i character breakdowns like
i earned that shit too that shit just wasn't like
well okay you know i want i'm gonna jump back
into where my pen though i know i got somewhere all right but wait yeah as far
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as acting influencing modeling i feel like you've settled on the influencing
what was it about influencing that you was like yo this is where.
The money is this is where i'm at mentally this is what i can withstand withhold
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like what was it about influencing that was like i'm gonna put acting aside
the modeling aside like this is where i want my focus to be more creative control for sure and.
At one point in time, I was doing this by myself and, you know,
that's a lot of hats to wear.
But I was like, with the right team, we can really put this shit in motion when
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it comes to pitching and putting together ideas and briefs and even the relationships.
I got my own relationships, but I need somebody that has their own solid relationships
as well so we can put them together and we can really leverage this.
And again, I got to go back to my pops passing away.
Way it was shit got so real
i didn't really fear shit anymore like
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i was i was faced with that like to see him in his
worst state it was like
even if i had a bag to spend if he wanted four fucking trucks he couldn't drive
them any fucking way so that changed my whole perspective on life as a whole
so like that shit don't even matter it's just showing up and being you like
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we we all have have this is funny because i was talking to my mom yesterday
and we're having this conversation.
Because obviously like she's still been grieving they my
parents been together 33 34
years i'm 32 like my high school sweethearts
everything so i couldn't even imagine you
know how that was messing with her mental but and
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that's my best friend by the way like that's that's my daughter how do
you pause yourself from not moving back when that happened those
were the conversations i had with my mom she was like she man she a fucking
trooper she arrived at her birthday it was yesterday your birthday mom come
on aries but man she's so fucking resilient she's just a beast she she held
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it down she was like you set out to do what you you know what you're meant to to do,
like basically keep, keep doing that. And obviously I was going through it.
I'm fucked up. I'm trying to figure out what I want to do, how I want to do
it. And that switch went off. I'm like, man, I'm banking on me.
And to go back to the conversation that we had yesterday, it was basically talking
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about how some like sometimes we feel we have to be in the right mind to do something like that.
Like that's a determinative factor, whether we're going to do it or not. Child me in the gym.
Well, if you take it for what it is on a regular basis, we don't have the luxury
of picking and choosing if we're in the right mind or not. Is it you don't do
this shit or you're not going to do this shit?
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This is what it is. and she was talking about her
her logo and she does catering for food and stuff
it's too savvy i'm and i'm so proud of her
because i'm seeing her progression her growth prior
to the pandemic prior to the situation with my dad coming out of that situation
and being proactive like look i'm gonna do this i'm going all in i'm gonna finish
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what we started from getting her logo she just fucking started doing content
i'm like i've been trying to get her to do content for five six okay Okay,
but you influenced it. Yeah, and I'm telling her.
But the same shit that we're saying on here is what I was telling her.
I'm like, just dumb this shit down and show up and be you.
You don't have to be some insane production value. Just be you.
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People are going to fuck with you because of who you are. And that's the thing about L.A.
Yeah, because I need to hear what you just said right now.
It's the idea that you have to put on an act.
I mean and it's so fucking ironic
because we're in hollywood and it's full of fucking actors and actresses but
you gotta perform in real fucking life and i'm gonna lead to this point that's
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why some of these celebrities are having a hard time trying to transition into
social media and doing content because ones that are like amc like at the beginning
and you're like hello welcome to the movie or you see a commercial yeah or a credit card commercial.
Yeah these are the ones that figured out how to tip tap and do yeah but look
these people that we used to love their elusiveness you only see them like sprinkles
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here and there you tabloids,
tmz okay we didn't really know who they were you feel me but now they're like all right,
snapchat fucking tiktok i'm gonna do it and it's like now it's like i don't
like i don't like i I wish I didn't hear you give me that whole spiel about
how bad or how hard life is in the fucking mansion and shit.
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Like, I know it's levels to issues, but you got a fucking choice.
You got we all have choices and you're doing at the highest level.
What the fuck are you complaining for?
Somebody that's sleeping on the fucking sidewalk. I hear somebody that's popped right now.
And you you got the audacity to be on this big ass 30 foot sofa.
Obviously, that's that's I'm exaggerating.
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But this 30 foot cashmere sofa in in
the living room on the phone talking about
how bad life is like shut the fuck up it's crazy
i just i had to get raw real quick because i'm
like i see it a lot but i know there's a
disconnection between because this these are like
two different eras and now we're seeing people
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for who they really are that we we never would have known back in
the day you feel me it's it's interesting do you
have what you want to say could you say one okay i'll say
say the first one and it's not the fact that he's extremely active on
social media i think it was more the documentary the last
dance documentary the michael jordan
one oh but not not
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him complaining about life is bad because he i gotta
have to leave him out of that it was the fact that we didn't really know
who he was personally other
than basketball but there was
a it was a gift and a curse because obviously he led his team to six championship
rings but if you're okay so the way we would judge somebody now based on the
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attitude and the way they operate you'll be like i'm gonna cancel him because
he's a fucking asshole she's an asshole but obviously he led them to greatness.
But it was like the the gambling issue it was all that like we love we learned
how to love this one specific piece of someone so much like idolize it yeah
to the point that we're like.
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We we don't care about what the other things are yeah
i mean honestly like loki not going back to it but like diddy
like it's like i know i don't mean to say
it like that but like only because i've seen this one person who i
follow on instagram and they was like i stand
by diddy y'all didn't do this as quickly with jeffrey
epstein and i was just like this is
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celebrityism because it's just like at what point
do you just look at this is like maybe a
person's actions like like yes we ain't go
and jam it whatever the fucking godzilla
song was jamming like i want to
be able to listen to hello good morning because i
want to sing nicki minaj's part but like at the end of the
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day you gotta hold this person accountable because you love
them for a specific piece right and
that's what again what i love about influencing what
i love about where the culture and social media
and society is shifting is too i feel
like it's focusing more on because we've i
don't know i how old are you i'm 32 oh yeah i'm
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almost 40 so it's like i i
don't know did you have a cell phone when did you have a cell phone how old
were you when you had a cell phone because i had one i had that fucking big
block no kid just 32 the gold one i don't know it was the navy blue one I just
remember a time where a phone was a phone.
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We didn't have access and we didn't have understanding of you know what I mean
like I don't know we're on the same page there was nothing else to do on the
phone but play a game and do the fucking T90 word thing we paying attention to everyone's life.
Yeah, like, you were on the phone. We had anytime minutes, and the weekend,
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the weekend minutes, you can't run your minutes up and shit.
Your parents is paying for it.
They got an issue with it, so you got to stay below the limit.
But now we want to know everyone's fucking life. Yeah.
We want to pay attention. We want to know. I want to know, what did you eat?
What did you post today? What's your vibe? What's your energy like? Yeah.
But it's almost like a double-edged sword, because with celebrityism, fashion, right?
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Right yeah i miss mtv i miss
the vmas every vma that britney
spears performed at is so unique
and iconic and it's because of the type of celebrity
that was able to be created at that time like fashion i could tell you what
was rose mcgowan and she had the chain dress on she showed up with marilyn manson
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whatever reason we didn't even have cell phones but we all knew Knew that Marilyn
Manson took out two ribs from his fucking chest to be able to suck his dick.
Did you ever hear that rumor?
You're too young. Are you too young for that?
That's a crazy rumor. Sorry. Wow.
Wow. That is, that is. Dead. I don't even. Everyone in the world knew that. But see again.
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I'm mad I even fucking know now. Like, like that's crazy. We knew that without fucking internet.
Like for whatever reason, everyone knew that that was a thing.
Music was just different everything was marketed differently back then there
was more of like I'm about to make this shit up cause I just told you that Marilyn
Manson took out his ribs to be able to suck his dick like that's crazy we're
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gonna look at that like I remember Marilyn Manson but I don't remember that one but uh,
there was more of like I'm not gonna call it a singular community
but even the news
and current events that people people tuned
into it was relatively the same you know
like we're so spread out with the different
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blogs and there's people on
fucking youtube that have like competitive news channels they report no shit
every fucking day and they have better viewership than cnn it's crazy where
do you see celebrity going like as far as what you've experienced with i'm excited
to answer this There has never been a time.
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Where we as creatives, influencers, art, musical artists, so on and so forth,
we can potentially cut the middleman out and deal directly, you know, with the audience.
Obviously, you have the platform.
They fucking they have all the data. So, I mean, that's that's the whole situation.
But that you use those tools to be able to build your community and then bring them offline.
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That's merch drops. That's a drop in his newsletter.
You built that. that and what i'm finding because i'm i'm speaking to my my
younger self as well i needed to hear this you know it's crazy to think that
you you only need a thousand emails a thousand,
phone numbers or i mean if you got an email list of 10 000 people and you in
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that's your community you cultivate that one community if you get more people
in cool like the more the merrier but it doesn't have to be some insane number
you know like when you look at a person like mr beast,
okay he's a fucking unicorn that's not the metric to fucking go for that's.
Once in a lifetime situations and those people do
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exist it's just it is what it is that's very hard to duplicate you
don't need to do that you need a fraction of that
i forget who is it said it to me or maybe
i watched it in a youtube video and it was
like okay a hundred
viewers you know i mean you look at a hundred viewers a
hundred likes you like oh my god because you're
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thinking of it like on a beyonce scale think about
being in a room with a hundred people that that is that
is the difference like it's all perspective
at the end of the day it is all fucking perspective you
got a hundred people in the fucking room if you plant a
seed in any of those hundred people thousand people
that's all that fucking matters in this world that's facts
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and i feel like the world is working look at high moment
here we come all the way back to the finish that's where
people and i what i love about social media is moving in that direction i agree
but there's a scary part of that where it's like okay i see the negative as
well but i feel like people are waking up you know And this was a point that
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I was making the other day.
I'm like, okay, going to these events, these premieres, these red carpet events,
you're going to see A-list actors, actresses.
You might see your favorite fucking influencer walk in the same carpet.
Now, what is the difference?
Really, at that point, what is the difference? You got people showing up to see this person.
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I mean, obviously, this person may be in the movie, which changes the game.
But people want to see their fucking favorite influencer at the premiere on
a carpet with the actor or actresses in the movie.
That's like to me that's that is one in
the same i just want to see our favorite person exactly our favorite person
that chain crazy on the like yeah that
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changes the fucking game it changes the game like i
saw shout out my boy scully too he's he's
a he's another like dope dope person you
you would definitely love on it scully let's
look scully god he posted he was
at out the premiere was it the premiere it might have
been the screening of bad boys four they're on
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four right bad boys like on zoo cv no
no the movie the movie will will and
martin they're it's on bad boy four right that's already
came out it's coming out in june but i think
they may have boy four yeah okay he was just
on the carpet with both of them and sick that's like
his one of his last posts like there's fucking martin lawrence
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and there's will smith they're taking the fucking picture on
a red carpet he has upwards of
i don't know like 1.5 something million
followers on on ig and i
think a couple million on tiktok they are ecstatic
to see this man obviously do his thing
you know and create the content but to
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see him with their favorite actors if those
are their favorite actors because now it's synonymous you got you got you got.
The the association so now these worlds are merged i think that's what's so
you're getting the same exact amount of followers yeah viewership and it brings
a little sense of authenticity back into.
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Hollywood so like all right i used
to work with this company it was a hair company and we worked
with a lot of affiliates right and kind of
explain the affiliate game what do you
like about like being an affiliate what
do you what have you have you had bad experience with what's some kind of advice
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you could give to someone at home who's you know i mean they got 10k 15k followers
where they could like utilize that to what should they look out for positives
and negatives of like like affiliate marketing?
Well, for me, I always preach this, we cut the middleman out.
For one, I wanna meet the owner of the fucking company. So you find a brand
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that you like, how do you make the most of that brand?
A lot of times I like I like the fact that they offer product for like a gifting approach.
They just want to, you know, put the product in your hand and say, do you even like it?
And from there, you know, it may be a yay or nay. But if I if I like it,
I'm like, yo, I'll give them my experience, whether it's through the content
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or I'm dealing with whoever that contact person is directly.
Yo, I really fuck with it. It's dope. dope. I can see this being integrated
into my life, excuse me, my, my lifestyle.
And then from there, we start to potentially negotiate if it's going to be a
long-term partnership or,
whether it's upfront payment or if there's like, there's a retainer,
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or if we're going to go the affiliate route, what that percentage will look
like with commissions, or do they want this in my story? Or do you want YouTube integration?
It's a, it's a lot of layers to it, you know, but when
you when you get a chance to i like the fact
that some brands actually have the fucking founder
on the page and they might be talking and doing interviews
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and you're like okay i fuck with this person yeah like
i fuck with this person okay cool that makes it all the better
for me you really believe in the brand so
you don't have a problem repping it you know
so what do you got going on next like what is where are
you right now in life what is the next step because
i know you was doing a podcast yeah so the
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podcast will be coming back i'm gonna
fine-tune some things i wanted i wanted to up the game with the editing and
stuff like that to really get a hold on it and even toy with the idea of just
doing solo episodes i feel like i'm comfortable enough to do that now i didn't
want to have to be reliant you know what was your nervousness with.
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By yourself i was like damn man can i really can i can i
really just sit here and just carry the conversation by myself in my
own space you know what i mean you definitely can no
i and and i've and i've done it i was
like can i do this on a consistent base because it's easy to have
a conversation with somebody because you can go tip or tat what's funny
is and i appreciate this because i've
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got an inspo from this concept to even
make my setting a little more casual it
may may not be at the desk it may be on the couch where i'm
comfortable and i'm chilling and i got my led light
you know a certain color or something is it setting the
mood lighting one the most comfortable setting for
me to be able to just have a conversation so
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i'm like that that's something i plan on i don't
know just testing the waters with fairly soon i just kind
of want to switch something up so i'm just having a conversation it may come
off more of like a diary of like a thought thoughts that are just in my head
that popped up versus i'm reporting on a fucking topic okay yeah because like
i'll just have a lot of random shit to say it could be an event i just went
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to i gave the whole play by player who was in there what was going on.
Yeah yeah that too that too i i
like the combination of having those sit
downs in the vlog and then move on to do something else
because i i'm treating it kind of like just giving
away free game just some some insight you know but
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as i'm as i'm giving you this game you see me really living it
at the same time so like i ain't just gonna tell you some bullshit and
not do it you know i mean so where can
everyone watch watch you check you out follow
you and all that so youtube the
real donnie savage instagram the real donnie
savage i had to add the real donnie savage
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and the number one for my tiktok because i because i lost
my old account i don't know i i got locked out of it it is what it is a situation
like that when i hate it it's like the what's your sign when you when's your
birthday the word is queries okay come on um all right love a question oh my
god okay sorry he's at a moment i had a whole moment all right so,
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oh and snap snapchat too real dunny savage snapchat a lot lately what snap school what is that,
I felt the same way. Like, I feel like, here's my thing.
All right, I'm going to be so honest with you. Okay. We're going to have a quick
little Snapchat, a little conversation right here, because I need help in life.
Snapchat, I just got back on Snapchat. Yeah. I am friends with,
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like, four or five people, you including one of them.
So my Snapchat past experience was, like, I would just friend,
like, people would just friend you, right?
And you would friend them, and then all of a sudden, then they're sending you like drugs
like pictures of drugs guns money like
they're like follow me send me 20
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i'll send you 500 like that's my
snapchat experience or like then you'd be added to these groups and
it's just like straight porn and you're
i'm just like like i love the snapchat filters right
yeah so now i'm back on it now i'm like okay
we're not just accepting any friend request because it
got crazy it got crazy for a minute please
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explain snapchat to me and where like
i want to get back into it because i feel like there is a positive thing there
okay i don't know where how i took a left with
my snapchat experience because it was crazy no
i can relate to that guns drugs okay
not the guns and the drugs it was like people was trying to sell me all the
on the black market of snapchat i didn't
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see the guns and the drugs but no when
i was on snapchat for real that
was at a time where like i was still fucking like climbing and shit like shit
was popping off and then we just this music this music video this music video
and i'm like on snapchat and i'm getting the wildest shit on there of women
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just sending me all type of shit i did i I didn't even ask for it.
I didn't even ask for it, you know.
Well damn this is i don't all the but like i don't am
i being crazy like out of all the social media sites like snapchat was
like it was crazy it was like almost obviously it
wasn't made for that but it felt like it it felt like it was
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like that was the stigma that came along with it now i
mean i got a whole new profile i got a clean slate and i
ain't even i ain't even playing that that shit man so like
snap school was a real
thing got invited to snapchat's
headquarters in santa monica we had
a fucking it really felt like we were in school they sat
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us down and they were not that
i remember every single thing but i'll give
y'all an inside scoop fuck it they were basically
giving us some some game of just
how to win on there from from the the filters to
you know you want to be versatile with the filters and
i got the lenses and using all the features but
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just being good at storytelling like that
that was one of the big components not just
random snaps like you're telling a story like hey so what do you mean by that
what have you learned for that as far as applying that to yourself so i've i've
been i've I've been consistent shit ever since I left snap school and I'm like
I'm going to structure out this content to me just I like to call Snapchat the lowlights.
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Obviously, I don't take that for face value. I mean lowlights and just the regular
simple shit you sit in there brushing your teeth or you just woke up in the morning.
That probably won't make Instagram because Instagram is more highlight based. You know what I mean?
All those different little nuances. I'm at lunch right now. Boom,
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I'm about to show off the food.
But everything leading up to you going to lunch. Like, what did you do before that?
So I can see the quality on Instagram or wherever, the behind the scenes.
Yeah, yeah. It's more behind the scenes. It's more personable.
You might just be chilling on the couch and you're watching a new show.
And boom, hey, have you seen this show? Or I need a good show to watch.
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And people people send you good fucking feedback
but it's just a it's a different dynamic on
there now at least that's that's what they explained you know you
got it's almost like learning how to funnel your life right
yeah so it's like you get these people you meet
these people on snapchat you introduce them to a
piece of how you could hang out with them on
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tiktok to a vision of how they can friend you
i feel like instagram at this point is like a calling card
like it's like i'm i'm gonna follow you first on instagram you
know what i mean kind of a like that's that's been
the place where you establish your authority to
be instagram's like the millennial facebook yeah yeah
yeah so that those are your highlights
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those are the best fucking moments linkedin has even
switched over that's you you flexing
our profession on there like what like what
you do that's turned into a whole nother thing for for
business professionals i'm gonna drop i'm gonna drop some game okay you can
be a creator influencer musician whatever if this is the platform where people
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flex their professions and job titles job descriptions the work they've done in the past.
There's a lane that you're trying to get into or there's a
specific type of person you need to meet why the
fuck are you not on there whether whether there's
somebody in tech or you want to you want to meet a cfo
a ceo of a company you want to you want to like connect
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and pick their brain all you got to do i'm just
i'm fucking telling you just be personable a regular person just be just have
regular conversations i mean obviously when you're dealing with somebody like
that they got shit to do you might want to cut to the chase but you you have
to do it in a way where you You let them know that you're genuinely interested in what the fuck they do.
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And hey, I would love to learn blah, blah, blah from you. Or do you have some insight on this?
A person on LinkedIn, because it's very resourceful, they give away free resources
to applications or, you know, this is this is my e-book. So blah, blah, blah to finance.
And that that is the platform you find specific people or jobs potentially.
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Eventually and then you double back and you find them on instagram you see their highlights.
You can go find them on TikTok to go see just the random shit that they do.
And I feel like they almost feel more connected when you find them on Instagram.
You've reached out to them once on LinkedIn. Yeah.
And you find them on Instagram and you now feel like you're a part of this person's life in a weird way.
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Like social media is so weird to me. And that's a whole nother discussion for a whole nother day.
But making those connections
having that understanding of like how you
can utilize a full connection and be
authentic within making that connection
versus using somebody or all my jobs
came out of linkedin yeah a lot a lot of my every job i've ever had not all
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my contacts but like i've got all my jobs is off linkedin yeah or you're like
okay okay i'm looking for a talent manager period go to fucking linkedin.
Talent managers in los angeles agent
in los angeles okay wait that's actually a really
great thing whether it's modeling acting whatever
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influencing what's a great way
to find it how do you find the agency and how
do you put what's a great way to kind of sniff that i would definitely say asking
your peers like if you're in that space anyway nine times out of ten you're
gonna know somebody that's repped or has been rep I would I would start there
now you know the name you know you might know the name of the agent you might
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know the name of the company you go do your own research you can see,
their lineup online or like past work so you can kind of look at that you can see.
Some of the people on their roster and the type of looks you know
they're going on for you might because you might match a
similar look and this is this is some more
fucking free game that might be competition unwanted competition
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you didn't even know that was on the deck because now you got
a similar look to somebody you got to be mindful of stuff
like that as well but reaching out to
the agent or you know a rep figuring out what they're
what they're looking for that's a good place to
start because nine times out of ten they're going to with headshots digitals now
they're asking for like lifestyle shots because the online
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stuff as far as like a lot of companies are doing like the the the web commercial
style stuff like the actual content itself and pulling back from commercials
it's like that's a that's a different dynamic something else that you can add
to the the fucking game of who's on the roster and the looks.
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Damn i don't even know where i was going with that i think that high just slapped me
in the fucking face what the fuck is this i know
i told you this is great i told you
it's fucking when i lose my train of thought that's that's
when i know it's some good shit smoke man i
mean i smoked a lot of shit before man but god damn man that's heavy shit yeah
shit happens and where can everyone follow you the real donnie savage instagram
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