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April 21, 2025 107 mins

He designed a flag to unite the world. Instead, he was accused of working with the Illuminati. In this episode, Oskar Pernefeldt — Creative Director at Oatly and the designer behind the International Flag of Planet Earth — opens up about how a simple graduation project turned into a global movement… and a conspiracy theory nightmare. We talk about fame, fear, purpose, and the insane power of symbolism in a divided world.

 

Watch if you’re curious about the hidden forces that shape culture — and what happens when one idea captures the whole planet.

 

00:00 Introduction

03:03 Oscar's Background and Nonprofit Work

05:31 The Design and Symbolism of the Planet Earth Flag

09:49 Public Reception and Conspiracy Theories

20:29 Challenges and Goals for the Planet Earth Flag

22:15 Global Unity and National Identity

32:26 Comparing Sweden and the US

33:51 Reflections on American Society and Governance

36:38 Discussing Taxes and Military Service

37:56 Healthcare Systems: Sweden vs. America

38:23 Insurance Woes in America

39:39 Education in Sweden: Beckman's College of Design

43:20 The Creative Industry and Nepotism

46:25 The Privilege of Being in the Creative Industry

54:58 Childhood Experiences and Their Impact

57:34 The Importance of Forgiveness

01:02:02 The Flag of Planet Earth and NASA Involvement

01:13:45 Creative Ecosystem at Oatly

01:14:18 Trust and Decision-Making

01:17:09 In-House Agency vs. External Agency

01:18:10 Pitching Ideas and Taking Risks

01:19:52 Balancing Boldness and ROI

01:22:52 Competition and Market Strategy

01:25:37 Challenges of Passion Projects

01:39:18 Future of Flags and Identity

01:43:01 Rapid Fire Questions and Conclusion

 

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