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September 19, 2025 36 mins

This week on OurSpace with Matt Vettese, I sit down with Ben and Matt from Pretoria to talk about their latest EP If We’re Pretending — a coming-of-age record about identity, transition, and chasing dreams even when it feels impossible.

We dive into:

-Why Pretoria refuses to be boxed into one genre -How they make 3 guitarists actually work live -The leap from Grand Rapids to Chicago and how it changed everything -Getting “weird” (in the best way) on their new release -Writing beyond the traditional “boy meets girl” lens

If you love indie rock, power pop, or just discovering your new favorite band, you’ll want to give this one a listen.

🎧 Listen to Pretoria: https://pretoriamusic.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/3dK49BK2fasxOmbCkUXhGc Apple Music:https://music.apple.com/us/artist/pretoria/1429329187 Follow them: https://www.instagram.com/pretoriamusic/?hl=en

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