August 27, 2024 • 59 mins
Welcome to the latest episode of Out Loud and Uncorked, where we pop the top on intriguing people and their unique experiences. Join your hosts Jes and Matt as they delve into a candid conversation about fitness, nutrition, and staying motivated.
In this episode, Matt officially joins as a co-host, bringing his unique perspective on maintaining a healthy lifestyle while juggling the demands of work and family. Jes and Matt share their personal fitness routines, discuss the importance of discipline over motivation, and offer practical advice on setting realistic health goals.
Expect plenty of laughs as they recount funny anecdotes, including Matt's first dermatologist visit and their recent vacation escapades. They also tackle common fitness myths, the role of nutrition, and the pros and cons of wearing fitness trackers.
Whether you're a fitness enthusiast or just looking for some inspiration to get moving, this episode is packed with valuable insights and genuine moments. So grab a drink, sit back, and join Jes and Matt as they uncork some amazing stories and tips for a healthier life.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Out Loud and Uncorked. We are your hosts.
I'm Jess. And I'm Matt. Hey, that's right.
Matt is officially a co-host. Holy cow. How does it feel?
How does it feel, Matt Rush? It feels good. It was not the original plan,
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but I'm having fun doing it. It was never the plan.
I know. And now you can put podcaster, content creator on your resume,
me i mean on your cv it's all over now well i'm not surprised that you're a
listener favorite oh thank you you're my favorite well you're mine.
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So okay official business out of the way yeah how was your week.
The week was good. It was fast. It went real fast. It was a long week.
A lot of stuff going on at work.
A lot of the kids are like fully in swing now with school and homework.
And each night is something going on with, you know, with classwork. But yeah, it was good.
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It was. How was yours? It was good. Yeah. It was, you know, sometimes mine feels
like Groundhog Day over and over.
Well, to be fair, so does mine sometimes. I guess so does everyone's. Yeah.
But yeah it was good it was really good the weather where we
are was beyond beautiful
this week yeah it was like it's never like
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this in august in the carolinas so we've just gotten so lucky this week like
low 60s waking up in the morning working out i didn't sweat as much yes it was
nice in the gym but uh it was nice and then it was like but then like mid 80s in the the afternoon.
But like no humidity. Yeah. It's been awesome.
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Well, it's supposed to change, so. Well, is it? Yeah. Get hot again?
Human hot. Hot and human. This week? Yeah, by Thursday.
Well, we'll be leaving Thursday. But then we're out of here.
We're going to go away for Labor Day weekend with a bunch of friends and kids
and it's going to be a good time.
Yeah. I am excited Excited for that. I know. Same here. Yeah.
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So what kind of feedback did you get after last week's episode?
A lot of comments about how funny it was yes people
were laughing i'm laughing now just thinking about it
that was fun it was fun you know what i got a lot
of people sending me messages being like oh
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i forgot this one yeah like this really bugs me or
like oh yeah the garbage one like that
that kills me so it's like everybody everybody is
bugged by like the same kind of stuff which is funny we we did hang with our
friends last night and i have a cohort that also hangs her wet clothes over
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the tub she totally agreed with me yeah yeah yeah yeah i know she told me,
he's right he he's good for not putting those sweaty clothes in the dirty laundry
hamper thank you so that's what i took away blah blah blah that was the big
feedback no but it was seriously everybody thought it was very funny and the
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same thing i got a lot of like just quick comments about like oh my gosh,
these are the crazy things my wife does too my husband does too and people people
really seem to love it yeah it was fun we gotta do more like fun episodes like
that yeah i have a couple other ideas that we can get other you know listener
opinions on yeah and bring them to light but But it's all about the feedback, right?
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Yeah. I mean, people need to tell us what that is and what they want to hear
about. Yeah. And we can make fun of people all day long. We can do that. Yeah.
I can make fun of you. We won't say names. I know.
You can make fun of me. Thanks. I had surgery this week. You're going to make fun of me? Here we go.
Matt went for the very first time in his life to a dermatologist appointment this week. Yep.
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I'm getting old. I got to take care of myself. Yeah, and everything's good.
Yep. Yep, you got the once over and- Full body scan.
Full body and everything's looking good. Yeah. But he had a couple little tiny skin tags removed.
Tiny is an understatement. Okay.
Okay, so you had huge skin tags.
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No, they were tiny. Okay, they were tiny. And he has been milking it all week.
It's so funny. He's kidding, but it's just so funny because he'll text me out
of nowhere and just be super serious.
And he's like, oh man, I had to talk to the property manager at work about getting
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a handicapped parking spot for the week after my surgery.
Or he was like doing something and he's like jessica i had parts of me removed i did this week,
i i went under the knife here we go this is like that we this is why we have
to do a whole episode on like the man man flu because when anything anything
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very little happens to a man it's just It was such a big deal.
Well, I mean, it's the first time I've gone under the knife probably ever.
So outside of like my wisdom teeth being taken out. So yeah.
I wouldn't say it was under the knife. It was. How else did she cut off the little skin tags?
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How? I don't know. I wasn't there. Say it.
I wasn't there. For all I know, they got frozen off. They were with a knife. A knife.
A knife. She pulled a knife out of the butcher block. So I went under the knife.
Started hacking them up.
One of them, she didn't even use anesthesia.
Anesthesia. What do you think about that? Anesthesia, everyone.
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He did not get anesthesia. He got like lidocaine.
Anesthesia. Oh my God. So then that happened. And then we told you about the couch last week.
And this is why you buy everything.
Anything you're going to spend a good amount of money on, you got to get it
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at Costco because we bought that new couch and...
I said last week how some of the threading was coming out of our old couch.
And I had said to, and I know that Costco has like an unbelievable like satisfaction guaranteed forever.
Like they're serious about it. And I said to the guy when we were checking out,
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like, oh, we're buying this new couch because the couch we bought here like four years ago,
is like the threading's coming apart and the batting kind of like wore weird.
And he was like, bring it back.
We're like, really? I don't have the receipt. See, I don't have anything.
They're like, well, look it up by your membership number.
As long as you can get it back here, we'll take it back.
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As long as there's no, he was very specific, no blood.
He's like, no blood on it? If there's blood on it, we can't take it back.
I'm like, okay, there's no blood on it.
So I looked at him, I was like, what if there is?
So we loaded up the old couch on Saturday
day and took her back to costco and
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and got exactly what we paid for
it four years ago put back on our card crazy so
easy but matt was taking it out of the taking one part of it out of the truck
like while i was looking for a little flatbed cart thing and because he just
couldn't wait for me to get back there got stuff to do and dropped it on his
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toe and he now has a black toenail. Yeah.
Yeah. So I went under the knife and I have a black toenail on the same week.
I know. Poor guy. It's not even all black, but I don't like it.
It hurt. It definitely hurt. I know that hurt.
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All right. Why don't you, since you're the newest actual co-host,
not just a guest co-host, why don't you tell us what we're talking about today?
Okay and why and why yeah so one of the first things that.
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This was even on you, right? When you started talking to people about what you
should talk about and what the different episodes should be and some of the
things they were interested in.
One of the things that kept coming up, obviously, with your background in training was fitness.
Yeah. And nutrition. And nutrition. I think people assumed when I was starting
a podcast, it was going to be about fitness.
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Fitness yeah because a lot of people i mean most people in the south know you
as a trainer yeah and that's how i think you mentioned it a couple episodes ago that's how you,
we got to know a lot of people here was through that endeavor but yeah so retired now retired.
But but i get a lot of questions too about it right i work out six to seven
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days a week that's It's very fit.
Every week. Yeah. And it's just something I've always done. For a 48-year-old man.
Why do you have to say my age? Because it makes it more impressive how fit you are.
So yeah, I mean, I talk a lot about it at work.
Obviously, you know, some people work out, they have different regimens,
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and they stick with it for a little while, then they fall off.
But it's just, to me, it's always been super important.
And I try to stay super consistent. So, yeah, we thought a great thing to do
would just be to talk about fitness and nutrition and not just what the normal regimen is because,
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right, we are getting older,
getting close to 50, you're getting close to 43,
but it's different, right?
It's different now for us at our ages than it was when we were 30 or we were 20. So, yeah, yeah.
We're not going to tell a bunch of different things about what we think anybody
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should do, but maybe just stuff about how we focus our lives around fitness
and nutrition, what we do, right?
What works for us and just how we kind of try to balance it all. Yeah.
So why don't you tell us like why staying fit has always been important to you?
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Is it aesthetics? Is it health?
Is it because of your sports background that it's just normal to you?
Yeah. For me, it's probably all three.
I've played sports my entire life and I've been very athletic and very into just being active.
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And I really started, I guess, kind of quote unquote working out when I was
probably 13, 14, but that was, right. It was all kind of sports related.
And so I played on a bunch of soccer teams.
I was on three or four teams at once, usually travel teams, high school teams, right.
State teams, just different teams. And so I was always active.
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And back then I didn't really think about it. It was just training, right.
It was just like, I've just got what you did. Yeah. I just, it's what I did.
And it was I was always a person that...
I knew that the more in shape I was, the better I could be, right?
So I didn't like, even playing soccer, I didn't go out a ton and just juggle
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and practice with the ball and things of that nature.
I actually probably focused more on fitness and my body and my balance and how
I positioned my body when I was on the field through working out.
And I realized that that really helped me a lot in sports when I was young.
And you played in college.
I did. Yeah. So I kind of, you know, I played, yeah, my whole life.
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And so, you know, fast forward through that.
And I mean, I had worked out or been in sports or been on multiple teams pretty
much every day, really my entire life.
I mean, really since I was 10 and 10 or 11 years old.
And so it just, for me, even after I got out of school and, you know,
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kind of, I still played in some adult leagues and still played actually for
quite a few years after college just for fun.
But I always just needed that exercise, right? I just needed something.
I needed, I don't sit still. I think you said that even last time. I can't sit still.
So for me, it's always about just kind of movement. and
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yeah and so i don't know there definitely
was there a point where it was about aesthetics to answer
that part of the question yeah i mean i think so right i
think that and still is to a degree yeah yeah
definitely i mean i i want to look fit
right i'm not obsessed with it i don't you
know i don't need to be a bodybuilder i
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don't want to be that right but i do i enjoy looking fit yes yeah right do i
want to be overweight no no do i do i want to manage it absolutely yeah and
not and also not get to i think what has also kept you working out consistently.
Is you know it's harder to come back if you stop for a while or if you let off
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the gas and coming back into it, starting over again.
A hundred percent. It's always harder. Yeah. It's always more of a struggle.
It's harder to get back on that bus.
It's harder to then stay consistent.
So I think that also is a factor too, right? I mean, because you don't want
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to start over again ever.
No, I mean, it is. It's one of those things that feels like it's almost just
in my DNA. And I just have to do it like every day to feel good.
But there are times, absolutely, where, right? I mean, even now,
we'll go on vacation for a week and-
Usually we work out kind of every other day yeah right so
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it's we're still we're still exercising but it's not
as much but this last vacation we didn't
work out at all no i mean i think that's the first seven day
period where i haven't worked out in probably my entire life
same yeah i mean and we brought more workout clothes
we always do but yeah we just didn't we just kind
of like just get around to it this time yeah and which
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was fine i mean we're always like walking around and doing and stuff with the kids and
everything anyway but yeah we were like leaving
there and we're like can you believe we didn't work out one time
while we were here i know but i did i did get back though and i was kind of
like all right like i don't want to regress yeah and you're also kind of like
chomping at the bit to get back because you have all that pent-up energy yeah
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and like you just need to get back into a routine need to get back into feeling
good you're not just like Like,
you know, vacations, sitting around eating and drinking and having fun.
Yeah. So, yeah, you're like ready to get back into it when you come back.
Yeah, definitely. What about you? Like, so how do you feel about that?
So, you know, I grew up cheerleading, gymnastics, dance.
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So I was always active, but never thought of it as working out.
Like i don't think i even ever went to
a gym until i was in my 20s because i was just always so active yeah but yeah
i think i think i started going to the gym in my 20s like after all the cheerleading
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and stuff was like really over and i just wanted to stay in shape.
I didn't really know what to do because I really had never had to,
you know, quote unquote, work out before that.
I just was always really active. So it was an adjustment to like figure out
what to do. Like, do you just get on the treadmill for an hour?
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Do you like, you know, run yourself crazy on the elliptical or do you,
you know, start doing machines and not really know what you're doing?
So it was, it was a lot of that where in the beginning I was,
it definitely wasn't a passion of mine. Right. That's for sure.
Even when we met. No. Like it wasn't, you were active. Yeah.
But you weren't in a typical quote unquote gym routine.
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No, and you always were. Yeah. You always have been since I've known you. Yeah.
Not going to a gym because you prefer to work out at home.
But, yeah, you were, there was definitely quite a few years where you worked out and I didn't at all.
So, yeah. And then, I think for me, What actually got me serious about it was
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I was driven by aesthetics in the beginning.
Yeah. Because I had had the kids and then I was feeling really like I have to do something here.
Like I had two kids within 17 months, you know, obviously with the cancer the
first time and I was on steroids and there was a lot of weight gain.
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You took steroids so you could like build muscle? No. Gee. Pregnancy is much different.
And then only lost probably about half of it before getting pregnant again.
So basically was right back where I was starting after the first pregnancy after the second.
And then it's like you have two little babies and it's really hard to like pull it together.
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So I think it started with like a lot of walks and stuff like that.
And then I just, the scale wasn't moving and I was getting frustrated.
And that's when I joined a gym and really started getting into fitness.
And even then it was still a long time before I got like really serious about
it or should I say enjoyed it.
I was really trying to find like, do I like Zumba?
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Do I like cardio? Do I want to lift weights?
Do I want to just like putz around in classes and machines, you know,
so it definitely took it took a while to figure out that I really love strength training,
a little bit of cardio, I'm not into doing tons of cardio, I would much prefer
going for a walk every day than having to do a bunch of cardio.
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Yeah, I think, you know, I think that one of the questions I get all the time,
right, when we start talking about not we, but when I talk with other people
about fitness, and they ask what I do, or what you do, it's,
it always is what's your routine? What do you do every day?
Right? And I think that, I mean, we can talk a little about what we do.
But I think it's, it really is different for every person. And people think
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that, right? Oh, I need to do. magic thing.
Yeah, there's one magic thing, or I need to do cardio every day,
or I need to focus on Zumba every day.
Walk us through a little bit about kind of just your routine,
maybe what it is over the last kind of five years.
Yeah, because it's definitely changed here and there a little bit.
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But I, so I am more of a, and I think it's just because I got used to doing
this. So now I've kind of kept it this way.
I'm definitely not as serious about like strength training as I used to be.
I still do it every, you know, five days a week. and I've always found it easier
for myself to cut every day into a body part.
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So, I mean, this has been my every week for as long as I can remember.
Monday is legs, Tuesdays is shoulders and abs.
Wednesday, I do more of a cardio or like a HIIT workout to break it up a little bit.
And then Thursdays is chest and back, and Fridays is arms, biceps, triceps.
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And then on the weekends, and I always walk also. That's kind of how you start.
I start by walking, yeah, and then get into strength training.
And then on the weekends, I try to go for like a long walk or sometimes I'll work out with you here.
But for me, that's always worked. I like having, knowing each time I'm going
into the gym, what I'm gonna be working on that day.
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And I may not do these same exact things every time, but I stick to those body parts.
Whereas you kind of do, You're kind of more of like a full body person kind of like more often.
Yeah. I definitely...
And the older I get, the harder it is. But I feel like my body has always recovered
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pretty quickly. So I'll do...
Every other day. So I'll do like chest and back one day. And then the next day,
I hate cardio. I mean, which is.
Except for now you've found the Peloton. Correct.
But I was going to say, I hate, like I've always hated running,
which is ironic because I played soccer my whole life.
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Yeah. But that was, I was engaged in a game. Right. But going out on a road
and running, ugh, horrible.
So anyway, I'll do like chest and back one day. The next day,
Peloton. And I'll do Peloton for 30 or 45 minutes.
Sometimes an hour right just depends how i feel the next
day is shoulders i do i
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go hard yeah hence the sweat um but the next day shoulders and arms and then
back to peloton and then it's either to your point it's either like a full body
i don't sometimes i'll do legs i kind of switch it into that but sometimes do
legs but legs is usually like my sixth day yeah so peloton three
times a week, like body workouts three times a week.
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And then, you know, Sundays we try to, we try to like today we went surfing, right?
Both of us went surfing for probably about half an hour each behind the boat,
which is a, it's a workout. It really is. It's fun. My legs were shaking.
Yeah. But we'll, we'll try to do something active on that seventh day,
even though it's not necessarily quote unquote a gym.
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And sometimes it's like tons of yard work or, you know, right. Lifting couches.
And dropping them moving furniture so yeah
i think that's that's a pretty good idea of what our routine is
like and that's that's really how i worked as a
trainer also like i was i always trained people kind of in that same split you
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know you break up different days to different body parts that way you can concentrate
on you're not just kind of like doing a little bit of everything every day you
can like hit shoulders hard one day and if they're sore you know you're it needs to recover,
you're not doing it again the next day. Yeah.
I think something else that's always worked for both of us is that we...
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I think we vary our quote-unquote routines quite a bit.
Yeah. And you kind of mentioned that, right? But sometimes we'll go three or
four weeks in a row of heavy weights.
And then the following like two weeks, it'll be lighter weights and higher reps.
Yeah. And different exercises.
Yeah. But I think that's been really key for both of us, I think.
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Well, I think it keeps you interested too.
It's not so monotonous that like it's the same thing week after week and you're getting bored of it.
So yeah that is true and it's good it's good
for like muscle confusion too
to not just do the exact same thing all the time to
just kind of change things up a little bit yeah that's why
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i try to do like that midweek like hit kind of workout too just because just
to just switch things up yeah you know just to get things going a little differently
but that kind of like brings my next point too about because people are always
asking how do you stay so motivated all the time I'm like,
how are you always so motivated to do this every day?
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And I've always said, you will not always be motivated.
You're not going to be motivated every day. I am not motivated every day.
But that's when discipline needs to kick in. And on the days that you're really not motivated,
even if you don't do the full workout you were going to do or a whole hour or
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you just go for a walk or something that day, at least you do something.
It's when you do nothing, that's easy. That can turn into doing nothing day after day.
And then the ball starts rolling on that and then it's hard to get back.
And the older you get, the more easy that is. Yes, yes. And harder to get back.
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So yeah, I think consistency is more in line than motivation.
Yeah. And also...
I think having a consistency as in turning into a routine, right?
Like every day, like in the summer, I'm all messed up because my normal day
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is get up with the kids, get them ready, drive them to school.
As soon as I drop them off, I go directly to the gym. So I'm not coming home
in between. There's no like downtime.
I've got to be ready for the gym when I leave the the house to bring
them to school and that having that routine it
almost becomes like you're on autopilot yeah
like i don't even think about whether i want to go or not it's just what i do
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after i get out of the carpool line right you know so i think that's important
too is like just establishing a routine that works for you like you used to
be after work you used to work out at At like 5.30,
6 o'clock. Because I'm not a morning person. Which I never understood.
I'm not a morning person. I don't like the mornings. No. Yeah.
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But I know for myself, I couldn't be motivated at 6 o'clock to start a workout.
Right. And I can't anymore.
Yeah. Because now you really, because you don't get up at like 5 o'clock in the morning, but.
I get up early though. You'll get
up early enough to get a good workout in before getting ready for work.
Yeah. I mean, I used to just want to sleep as late as I could,
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get to work, come home from work, work out, and then the night was set.
But obviously, a couple of years ago, we started to realize,
holy cow, we got to help the kids with homework.
And I've got dad duties at night
and all these different things and activities we have to run them to.
And it was hard for me. You're gone all day and then you come home and be gone
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for another hour, hour and 15 to work out.
So it it was just taking a chunk out of like family time. Yeah.
So yeah, like two, two and a half years ago, I switched and I mean,
it sucked for like a good eight weeks, probably six or eight weeks to like get
up and motivate myself to do that.
But now like I'm up and I want to do it. And it's to your point, it's a routine, right?
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It's a routine. I get up and thankfully you get the kids ready and it gives
me that opportunity to do what I need to do.
Do but i get home from work and it's and it's you're done i'm done
which is so nice yeah yeah i yeah i
i could never do it at that time and and that works for some other people
and that's great like whenever it works for you is like it it's
not better to do it in the morning or to do it at night right it's just you
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just want to do it i don't think it's it matters if you when you do it it's
just to your point do it do it consistently don't say one morning you're going
to wake up and then the next day you're going to do it at night yeah like and
set like appropriate expectations for yourself.
Like, if you know you're not a morning person, but to work out before you go
to work would mean you getting up,
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at like 5.30 in the morning, five o'clock in the morning, and that's just,
you know that's not gonna work for you as much as you want it to.
Then you gotta do what works for you.
Then you might be a P, you know, exerciser, you know, instead.
So you just gotta set yourself up with appropriate expectations and,
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you know, do what's right for you.
So you're, obviously, like you just said, you're very disciplined.
I think we both are. very disciplined we're also both motivated
for our own reasons right whether it's
aesthetics healthy lifestyle setting a good example for our kids whatever maybe
but what's what do you think is there a difference between the two or is it
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being motivated and yeah just like having a motivated disciplined yes i do think
there is a difference because like i said you're not always
going to be motivated and unless you're like
you're training for a goal you're training for a competition
you're training for a sport you're training for something like
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a specific goal in mind yeah then yeah you're going to be motivated
to finish that task but if it's just an everyday routine you're trying to stay
healthy you're trying to keep weight off you're trying to get weight off stay
in shape you know as you get older these things are way more important yeah
And as you age, no matter who you are,
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you lose bone density, you lose muscle mass.
And if those things start going by the wayside and you aren't staying consistent
with them as you're getting older, it's just going to be harmful to your health later on. Right.
You know, I'm not saying that you need to be doing deadlifts when you're 60
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years old, but keeping some sort of strength training routine is only going
to make you live longer, live healthier,
be there for kids, grandkids,
vacations, spouses.
You know it's just gonna it's just gonna make your life yeah
better it really is it's just it's
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just gonna improve quality of life as you
get older like there's no argument
to that like you no one ever says like i
regret spending time exercising or staying in shape or working out like you
don't you never regret that no i mean and i don't want this to come off wrong
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i mean there's There's definitely a genetic component to looking young and right.
And from that predisposition. But I think at the same time, like people look
at you all the time and they're like, there's no way you're 42.
Yeah. Like you look like you're 32. Right. So it's.
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That doesn't just happen for everybody, right? Like I said, there's definitely
a genetic part of that for some people, but it's, you work at it.
Yeah. Yeah, and you stay young.
Yeah, I always used to hate when people say, you're so lucky that you still
look like that or you're so lucky that you still have.
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After kids, you still have a fit body And I'm always like, there is no luck in this whatsoever.
I am not predisposed to having like a fit trim body.
You are. Like you're built like your mom who is just a naturally thin person.
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She works at it too, of course. But I think that's your body type.
My family is, they're just bigger people.
And and and the
minute i let loose on my nutrition and
fitness i feel it see it
immediately yeah like i'm my clothes
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are tight like within like a week of you
know falling off track so there's on my
end there's no luck involved like i have to stay in the zone if i want to maintain
my fitness level my body my size you know I have I have to work at it and that's
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just the bottom line yeah you are genetically gifted,
which is annoying and you really are like I've seen times where you just like.
You put no thought into like your food or
like you'll take vacations
and eat and drink whatever you want and not exercise the whole
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time and you come back and
like a day later all that like excess weight water weight feeling gross is gone
whereas like i have to work at it for a couple weeks after so but i would argue
if i didn't work out every day for the last 40 years what it what Would I look like that?
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Well, we don't know. Right. We'll never know. Right. I mean,
and that's the thing, right?
Is yes, I know I'm genetically built that way. A certain way, yeah.
But I work my ass off too. Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying you don't.
So I think that there's this, there's a side to it as well that it could be,
it could be different if I didn't work out. Yeah.
I don't know. I know mine would be different though.
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Like there's, there's, like I look at food like that. can gain. Smell it.
Smell the calories. Yeah. On that same idea then, how important has nutrition always been to you?
Because I think as an athlete growing up, you never had to think about food.
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No. I mean, as an athlete until I was, I mean, really from, I mean,
really until I was probably.
After college. I never had to think about it.
I mean, sure, I would think about things like before games or big weekends of several games.
Yeah, I would definitely try to eat more carbs and things, right?
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Just like a normal person would.
But for me, I couldn't eat enough. Yeah.
You were just one of those really thin people that were trying to put weight on.
Yeah. I mean, I remember several times when I was younger going out and it'd be me,
and right my parents or
even like a friend or a girl
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i was dating or whatever and we go to dinner and i'd finish my meal i'd finish
her meal or my friend's meal i'd finish my mom's meal like i i'd eat six seven
eight thousand calories a day yeah but you were burning but i was killing like
just running through it so i don't know i mean definitely and then when i got out of college,
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i didn't i i didn't
obviously have that appetite because i wasn't burning as many calories in
sports but i could kind of eat whatever i wanted yeah i will
say when i turned probably for me it was probably it was probably like 44 yeah
45 maybe like three or four years ago i i kind of like made that my body and
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it made the turn yeah your metabolism slowed down yeah and i And I was like, oh, crap,
right? I have to start thinking about this now. I got to think.
And it just, before I could eat whatever I wanted and I could,
if I worked out harder, I could burn it all off and look just as great.
Yeah. This time, after like 44, 45 years old, I couldn't eat whatever I wanted.
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And no matter how hard I worked out, it didn't just come off. Yeah.
So that was like the tough part. And that was mentally tough for me.
Well, yeah. Yeah, when it happens to anybody, yeah, it is. Because that's just...
A fact yeah you know as you grow get
older like it is harder yeah to lose
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weight to you know you can't help especially and
i'm speaking from a woman's perspective hormones are
constantly changing and then especially when you get into like a perimenopause
state and your hormones are really going crazy like i could you could stay on
the exact same routine that you've been doing And if your hormones want to fly
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off the handle a little bit and you start gaining belly fat.
It doesn't matter what you eat or how many sit-ups you're going to do.
That's your body changing and that's just a fact. And it just makes it harder.
And it's very frustrating. and I think people get really in their heads because
it's like, I didn't change anything and I'm gaining weight or I didn't change
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anything and I cannot lose these five pounds or whatever it is.
And sometimes you just have to like really realize that your body changes,
it happens to everyone and you can either embrace it or you can fight it and
then your cortisol levels go up And then your hormones are really kind of like fighting each other.
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And then it can get even worse, you know? And so I like my advice to people,
like when it starts getting harder is always to just,
first of all, try to relax and not get stressed out about it.
Cause the more you're stressed out about it, the higher cortisol levels are going to be.
And the much more difficult it's going to be to shed those pounds, you know.
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Stop the changes from happening so rapidly you
know and at that time it really is more about
like just stay consistent just stay healthy just
do all the right things the things that
are out of your control are out of your control you know
and you kind of just have to let like life happen and and and it's also like
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you gotta start enjoying at some point too yeah and i think i've I've really
kind of turned that corner in the past year or so where I've always been,
you know, I was somebody that weighed every ounce of food that I ate and was
so strict and so restrictive all the time.
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And it made me crazy sometimes because I couldn't enjoy.
And that was my main focus. And then all of a sudden you realize like, why?
Why am I so focused on this? It's not making me any happier.
It's not making my quality of life any better. And it's not...
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Nobody cares right that i
can you know be this strict with my food
and my nutrition and be on top of it all the time like it's not
impressing anybody i care you care yeah you
care i don't want to eat salads all day yeah so i
care yeah so i i think now we're
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probably more on that like 80 20 yeah
rule right you know like 80 of the time probably monday through
thursday day we eat really healthy not
counting calories by any means not eating salads all day
but like like you'll go to you're a big fan of
chipotle and instead of getting a burrito you'll get
a bowl yep right so just like little changes like that
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you know we'll in the morning have a protein shake instead of
having like a breakfast sandwich so it's
like doing stuff like that so that the other 10 20
of the time on the weekends at nights
vacations we can just kind of like let loose and
enjoy and not have that like fear of
food right that like i used to have that that voice
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yeah you know the food noise basically all the
time and it's just like our life is so much better yeah i think especially women
and i say this after speaking with a lot of women right throughout my life just
about fitness and things and and then speaking to you so again not to categorize but
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I think women get so fixated on a number. Yes.
Right? I still do. I still am. Right. But you get fixated on this number.
And I used to be similar, right?
Like I knew my weight, if I was
like within a couple pounds of this one number, I knew I would look good.
Because newsflash everyone, your weight changes every single day.
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Yes. It changes numerous times during the day. Yeah. So that is normal.
Right. Totally normal. But I think it just becomes this unrealistic thing that
you're trying to go after. And chasing.
You're chasing. And I realized as I got older and turned to kind of that hill,
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right, was, okay, if I'm within five to seven pounds of this number,
I feel good. I probably look pretty good.
Right? I'm okay with myself. Realistic.
I'm realistic. And I think that goes back to your comments about food and like
enjoying life and having some drinks and eating some things on the weekend.
It's like, okay, I don't have to be, right.
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I don't have to be this ideal weight. I can be within five, six,
seven pounds of this and still enjoy life and be really happy and not be stressed.
And more of like, try not to get over that.
You know seven pounds right if your threshold is five to
seven pounds like when you start creeping into eight nine pounds
that's when like yeah you know the wheels start falling off and
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you're like you know okay and then it's getting yeah you
got to either pull back or that's when it's hard to that's when people lose
motivation because it's like well i'm just like getting bigger anyway so right
f it yeah exactly you know what's interesting too i want to know your thoughts
because your apple watch broke yep which is why you don't wear one anymore but
i made the decision to stop wearing mine.
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And I want to hear both sides of this because I made the decision to stop wearing mine.
Now, I wore a fitness watch before the Apple Watch was ever a thing.
I was always wearing a Fitbit or a Garmin or something.
I was always, like, I always had something tracking my movement, I'll say.
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And then I realized that I was a slave to that watch. I was a slave to those numbers.
I was a slave to hitting those steps per day and the closing the rings and burning
the calories and making sure I put in my watch like the exact workout I was
doing and and putting way too much emphasis on those calories burned.
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Burned that my watch said I was burning, which I, sorry to tell you guys,
but your watch is way off.
Your watch is way off. Okay.
It's, it's, it's a general idea of what your calorie expenditure is.
If you're counting that as my watch says I burned 500 calories during this workout.
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And so if I eat 400 more calories today, then I'm still in 100 calorie deficit.
Like, no, that is not right.
And it's just if you can be a person that can wear the watch and be just healthy
about it as you're just using it as a tool, I think it's great.
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Like you, how you always looked at it.
But somebody like me who would become obsessive over it and quite literally
be a slave to my watch, like if it was charging, I wouldn't move because then
those steps didn't count.
Yeah. And those calories didn't count for the rest of the day.
My movement room might not be closed.
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So when I took that off, it was like a big step for me.
And that sounds silly, but like when you find those things that are holding
you captive to enjoying your life,
and for me, it was something so simple as wearing a fitness
watch every day my life changed when
i stopped how did it change like what what do you do now like how do you well
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how do you track that how do you stay on top i thought if i didn't have that
on tracking everything i did i was immediately going to blow up i was going
to gain weight i was not going to be as fit and guess what.
Nothing has changed. Okay.
Because I still need movement. I still move.
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I still go for walks. I still work out. I still do all these things.
My watch doesn't have a hold on me.
My watch isn't what's motivating me to do things anymore, keeping me captive.
Like I just do those things because they're the right things to do and they
make me feel good and it will keep me healthy.
So taking Taking that watch off has been, I'll never, ever wear one again.
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Right. I am interested in the Oura Ring just because that one's more about recovery
than it is really about like expenditure. Yeah.
But what about for you? Like it was an adjustment for you when your watch broke.
Yeah, it was, like you said, it was different for me.
I never used mine to measure calories or measure, right, steps or anything like that.
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The only thing that I found for me that was really beneficial was heart rate,
right? Because when I work out, I try to keep my heart rate at a specific level.
And I know that whether I'm lifting weights and I can keep it at 140-ish,
150-ish beats per minute, that's probably the zone.
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If I'm on the Peloton, I want to keep it at like 170.
I mean, 170 to 180. Yeah. And so I know that as long as my heart rate's in that
zone, I'm going to burn calories. I don't really care how many it is because I'm not.
Well, I think that's also the thing too. You're not working out to burn calories.
Right. And that is another thing that I always tell, like another piece of advice I give people.
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If you're exercising just to burn calories, you're in it for the wrong reasons. Right.
Yes, of course you're going to burn calories while you're working out.
You're also going to lose water weight while you're working out.
You're also, you know, there's a lot of factors that go into it. you can't spot lose fat.
People think that if their belly is fat, they should do sit-ups.
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Yeah. It has nothing to do with that. Your abs are under there no matter how
much fat you have laying on top.
So it's really like...
You need to work out because it makes you feel good, because it keeps you strong,
because it keeps you healthy and fit, and because it's good for you. Yeah.
Not because you want to burn a thousand calories in a workout.
Well, I think that's, again, the funny thing. And I don't know if you've ever
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seen me do this, but sometimes once in a blue moon, I'll get up first thing
in the morning and- Weigh yourself both times. I will.
You have seen it. So I'll go to the bathroom.
I'll make sure I'm at my best possible weight, right? And I'll weigh myself
and then I'll go outside and I'll burn.
Legitimately, I can burn a good 500 to 600 calories on the Peloton. Yeah, for sure.
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And sweat probably, I don't know, another, whatever, tenth of a pound or- At
least, probably more of that.
Probably more sweat out. But then I drink a lot of water at the same time when I'm on it.
So I've kind of tested it just to see, okay, I burned all these calories.
I sweat a ton of this stuff right of water out i should weigh less when i walk back in.
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And weigh myself 45 or minutes or an hour
later every single time i weigh
more every single time really because i've drank probably
more water than you've lost and i've lost yeah and like
so it's just it's just a funny thing respect that the
funny thing is when people do weigh less after a workout they're like
i just lost weight exactly you didn't that's not
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and that's my point right it's just kind of funny that you can't become
a right you just can't become tied to
that yeah you can't you just can't i know i worked my butt
off and i burned a ton of calories and that's what's important you felt
good yeah you did yeah you did what was right for your body yeah okay so you
don't you don't feel the need to get that watch back like you don't oh i don't
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miss it at all yeah you've had it i don't miss it at all either i would never
i mean and honestly so i mean since we're talking about kind of health and fitness all the other.
All the other side effects of constantly looking at my wrist,
constantly feeling the buzz. It was like a, it was like crack.
Yeah. And I didn't, I didn't realize it.
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It's those hits of like dopamine. Dopamine. Yeah. I didn't realize it until I took it off.
And it took me about three months that when I, my phone, I could,
sometimes my phone will like be sitting beside me, right?
And I'll, I'll hear it vibrate for a message and I would automatically lift
my arm. Look at your wrist.
Yeah. And I'm like, I didn't have my watch on. Like that's a problem.
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Yeah. And that, and, and totally off of the fitness subject,
taking that watch off and not being connected and available at all times,
it makes a huge difference too.
Huge difference. Like I feel free. Yeah.
Cause if it's on your wrist, you're looking at the text message that comes in,
you're looking at the email that comes in, you're, then you're constantly connected
instead of being in the moment of what you're, whatever you're doing,
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whether it's working out or anything.
A hundred percent. So yeah, I'm against the watch. Yeah, I wasn't, but I am now.
All right, we got a few minutes left. So how about a few quick hits? Okay.
Want to do some quick hits? Yep. All right, so supplements. Yeah.
What do you use? What do you think's good? I really don't anymore.
I really don't use. I take vitamins, a daily multivitamin, biotin.
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I take the things that I need.
I never really give recommendations on vitamins to people because everybody is so different.
If you're seriously trying to build muscle mass, creatine is really the only
supplement that has been so widely tested and proven that it does make a difference.
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But to some people, it makes them hold water. To me, when I took creatine,
I blew up. I was so swollen because it made me hold onto water.
So like I said, it's different for everyone. one.
Now, if you're looking at supplements like pre-workout, protein powder,
stuff like that, yes, I still use that kind of thing, but I'm not a big supplementer.
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I'm trying to get my nutrients and everything from my foods and not from supplements.
Got it. Agreed. Yep. Same for me. What else? How important is BMI?
Not at all. Not at all.
And if your doctor is telling you that your BMI is putting you in an overweight category.
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Tell him or her that you're not interested in their BS.
Because BMI is the dumbest measurement of anything.
Like it does not take into account anything. BMI stands for body mass index.
And all it really takes into account is height, weight, and like male or female, basically.
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So put no emphasis on your BMI. So I'm 5'4", and my range is between like 128 and 135 probably.
But there were times where I had a lot more muscle on me, and I was 140, 142.
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And my BMI for my height and being a female was putting me at obese.
And I was like so lean.
That's why you cannot put... don't put any thought into BMI.
It shouldn't even be allowed to be measured anymore.
Yeah, when you just did a fitness competition years ago, and when you did that, you looked...
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I thought unhealthy lean, right? Like you were shedding a lot of fat and you
had so much muscle, but that's the point you were saying that your BMI was showing that you were obese.
Yeah. And you were actually like, I thought you looked. I was all muscle.
Yeah. Yeah. So that's crazy. So BMI is stupid. Don't even think about it. That's unbelievable.
Quick fixes slash weight loss medication.
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They don't work. Well, those are two different things. Okay.
Those are two very different things. Quick fixes are like, I'm going to do the Atkins diet.
No, that didn't work that week. I'm going to do the keto.
I'm going to cut out all carbs. I'm going to cut out all meat.
Unless you have allergies to something or intolerances to something,
you shouldn't be cutting any food group out.
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Now, if you can't tolerate dairy, obviously don't eat dairy.
That's not what I'm saying. But to never eat carbs, yeah, you'll lose weight. But guess what?
That's coming from because you're cutting calories.
Not because you're cutting carbohydrates.
Cut calories from any of the food groups and you're going to lose weight.
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It has nothing to do with the carbohydrates themselves.
Carbohydrates are the same calories per gram as protein.
Say that again. So per gram of protein is four calories.
Per gram of carbohydrates is four calories. Per gram of fat is nine calories.
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So you're not doing yourself any favors by taking your energy source,
carbohydrates, out of your diet. You need carbohydrates.
Because once you start eating them again, you will gain the weight back.
I guarantee you. Makes sense. All right. And then you said weight loss medication,
totally different than a quick fix.
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Yes, it has the popularity and the boom of weight loss medication right now is going crazy.
We don't have a lot of time to get into it today. I, I think it's a dangerous,
I think it's dangerous to be honest.
I do. I think it's really dangerous because it is not meant to lose those last
five pounds, the last 10 pounds.
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It's, it's meant for like, that's, that's being irresponsible and whoever's
prescribing it as being irresponsible, giving it to somebody for that.
Weight loss medication is for very overweight people that cannot get it under control. Okay.
To take a GLP-1, like to take medication, give yourself a shot to lose a couple
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pounds or to look skinny or be skinny is not the answer.
Okay. And also, So if you're not being,
like, if you don't have a coach or nutritionist, a nutrition coach,
somebody in your corner when you're taking these drugs telling you that you
still need to prioritize protein and you still need to eat.
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Okay. Because the drugs are making you have zero appetite.
So you have to keep up. You're going to lose all your, you can't just lose fat.
That's the problem with these drugs is that you're gonna get skinny but you're
also gonna lose your muscle mass you can't help it if you're not eating the calories you don't have,
like you can't keep your muscle you can't just lose fat okay so if you're if
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you're wanting to get on weight loss medication if you're 10 or 15 pounds over
the weight you want to be and that's what you're the route you're thinking of
going please do your homework it's not for those things Got it. Change your lifestyle.
All right. You got 60 seconds. How do you make a realistic goal?
What's the first realistic goal that somebody can set in 60 seconds or less?
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Small goals. You have to start with small goals. You can't say,
I want to lose 50 pounds and that's your goal.
You have to start with this week, I want to lose two pounds.
I'm going to do all the right things. I'm going to weigh myself.
I'm going to go for two pounds a week and I'm going to celebrate that win.
If your goal is too big, it gets to be too unattainable and then you get frustrated
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and you lose steam because,
when you lose two pounds you're looking at it like
a failure because you still have 48 more to go right so break a big goal into
small goals and stay like on a weekly goal mission okay got it that's it awesome
and be healthy eat all your food groups well again your own food know where
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where your food comes from.
Yeah. Again, that's a whole other topic. Oh, yeah. We could do a whole episode just on food.
Yeah. And yeah, you're getting food from somewhere.
Even if you're getting a piece of grilled chicken from somewhere,
you have no idea how much oil they've used to cook that. You have no idea what
kind of quality chicken that is.
So you can't just assume because you're eating grilled chicken from somewhere
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else that it's the same as if you were to grill a piece of chicken.
Yeah, right. Because you have no control. you lose control
when you get it from a restaurant or get it somewhere else so
if you're serious about losing weight or getting healthy cook your own foods
buy your buy quality ingredients use less oils be particular about the oils
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you use and the fats and things that are going into your food have control keep
control the only way to keep control of that kind of thing is to make your own food.
Awesome. So I can only imagine that some of the stuff that you've talked about,
and even myself potentially, we'll probably get a lot of questions about this.
Yeah, and I would love to. Yeah, so please ask your questions.
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There's 10 other things that we didn't even get to on our list.
Right, let us know what you want us to expand upon, or have more questions about,
or things we didn't cover in this.
I could talk about food all day long. I could talk about fitness all day long.
I could talk about goals all day long. So, yeah, I'm down to talk about any of it.
All right. So send you a message. Yeah.
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Awesome. Awesome. Great job, Matt. Well, thank you. You're just really just
digging right into this role.
Well, now that I'm official, I feel like I have to bring my A game.
Well, I think you already were anyway, but. I kind of always try to.
I just got to live up to your hype. Yes. We may or may not have an episode coming
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out next week. Like I said, we're going to be on vacation.
If we can get another one recorded before that, well, you know,
hopefully we will and we can get that out. But if not, we may lag a week here next week.
Yeah, for the holiday weekend. So either way, follow the show,
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Out Loud and Uncorked. We are your hosts.
I'm Jess. And I'm Matt. Hey, that's right.
Matt is officially a co-host. Holy cow. How does it feel?
How does it feel, Matt Rush? It feels good. It was not the original plan,
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but I'm having fun doing it. It was never the plan.
I know. And now you can put podcaster, content creator on your resume,
me i mean on your cv it's all over now well i'm not surprised that you're a
listener favorite oh thank you you're my favorite well you're mine.
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So okay official business out of the way yeah how was your week.
The week was good. It was fast. It went real fast. It was a long week.
A lot of stuff going on at work.
A lot of the kids are like fully in swing now with school and homework.
And each night is something going on with, you know, with classwork. But yeah, it was good.
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It was. How was yours? It was good. Yeah. It was, you know, sometimes mine feels
like Groundhog Day over and over.
Well, to be fair, so does mine sometimes. I guess so does everyone's. Yeah.
But yeah it was good it was really good the weather where we
are was beyond beautiful
this week yeah it was like it's never like
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this in august in the carolinas so we've just gotten so lucky this week like
low 60s waking up in the morning working out i didn't sweat as much yes it was
nice in the gym but uh it was nice and then it was like but then like mid 80s in the the afternoon.
But like no humidity. Yeah. It's been awesome.
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Well, it's supposed to change, so. Well, is it? Yeah. Get hot again?
Human hot. Hot and human. This week? Yeah, by Thursday.
Well, we'll be leaving Thursday. But then we're out of here.
We're going to go away for Labor Day weekend with a bunch of friends and kids
and it's going to be a good time.
Yeah. I am excited Excited for that. I know. Same here. Yeah.
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So what kind of feedback did you get after last week's episode?
A lot of comments about how funny it was yes people
were laughing i'm laughing now just thinking about it
that was fun it was fun you know what i got a lot
of people sending me messages being like oh
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i forgot this one yeah like this really bugs me or
like oh yeah the garbage one like that
that kills me so it's like everybody everybody is
bugged by like the same kind of stuff which is funny we we did hang with our
friends last night and i have a cohort that also hangs her wet clothes over
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the tub she totally agreed with me yeah yeah yeah yeah i know she told me,
he's right he he's good for not putting those sweaty clothes in the dirty laundry
hamper thank you so that's what i took away blah blah blah that was the big
feedback no but it was seriously everybody thought it was very funny and the
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same thing i got a lot of like just quick comments about like oh my gosh,
these are the crazy things my wife does too my husband does too and people people
really seem to love it yeah it was fun we gotta do more like fun episodes like
that yeah i have a couple other ideas that we can get other you know listener
opinions on yeah and bring them to light but But it's all about the feedback, right?
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Yeah. I mean, people need to tell us what that is and what they want to hear
about. Yeah. And we can make fun of people all day long. We can do that. Yeah.
I can make fun of you. We won't say names. I know.
You can make fun of me. Thanks. I had surgery this week. You're going to make fun of me? Here we go.
Matt went for the very first time in his life to a dermatologist appointment this week. Yep.
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I'm getting old. I got to take care of myself. Yeah, and everything's good.
Yep. Yep, you got the once over and- Full body scan.
Full body and everything's looking good. Yeah. But he had a couple little tiny skin tags removed.
Tiny is an understatement. Okay.
Okay, so you had huge skin tags.
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No, they were tiny. Okay, they were tiny. And he has been milking it all week.
It's so funny. He's kidding, but it's just so funny because he'll text me out
of nowhere and just be super serious.
And he's like, oh man, I had to talk to the property manager at work about getting
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a handicapped parking spot for the week after my surgery.
Or he was like doing something and he's like jessica i had parts of me removed i did this week,
i i went under the knife here we go this is like that we this is why we have
to do a whole episode on like the man man flu because when anything anything
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very little happens to a man it's just It was such a big deal.
Well, I mean, it's the first time I've gone under the knife probably ever.
So outside of like my wisdom teeth being taken out. So yeah.
I wouldn't say it was under the knife. It was. How else did she cut off the little skin tags?
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How? I don't know. I wasn't there. Say it.
I wasn't there. For all I know, they got frozen off. They were with a knife. A knife.
A knife. She pulled a knife out of the butcher block. So I went under the knife.
Started hacking them up.
One of them, she didn't even use anesthesia.
Anesthesia. What do you think about that? Anesthesia, everyone.
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He did not get anesthesia. He got like lidocaine.
Anesthesia. Oh my God. So then that happened. And then we told you about the couch last week.
And this is why you buy everything.
Anything you're going to spend a good amount of money on, you got to get it
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at Costco because we bought that new couch and...
I said last week how some of the threading was coming out of our old couch.
And I had said to, and I know that Costco has like an unbelievable like satisfaction guaranteed forever.
Like they're serious about it. And I said to the guy when we were checking out,
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like, oh, we're buying this new couch because the couch we bought here like four years ago,
is like the threading's coming apart and the batting kind of like wore weird.
And he was like, bring it back.
We're like, really? I don't have the receipt. See, I don't have anything.
They're like, well, look it up by your membership number.
As long as you can get it back here, we'll take it back.
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As long as there's no, he was very specific, no blood.
He's like, no blood on it? If there's blood on it, we can't take it back.
I'm like, okay, there's no blood on it.
So I looked at him, I was like, what if there is?
So we loaded up the old couch on Saturday
day and took her back to costco and
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and got exactly what we paid for
it four years ago put back on our card crazy so
easy but matt was taking it out of the taking one part of it out of the truck
like while i was looking for a little flatbed cart thing and because he just
couldn't wait for me to get back there got stuff to do and dropped it on his
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toe and he now has a black toenail. Yeah.
Yeah. So I went under the knife and I have a black toenail on the same week.
I know. Poor guy. It's not even all black, but I don't like it.
It hurt. It definitely hurt. I know that hurt.
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All right. Why don't you, since you're the newest actual co-host,
not just a guest co-host, why don't you tell us what we're talking about today?
Okay and why and why yeah so one of the first things that.
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This was even on you, right? When you started talking to people about what you
should talk about and what the different episodes should be and some of the
things they were interested in.
One of the things that kept coming up, obviously, with your background in training was fitness.
Yeah. And nutrition. And nutrition. I think people assumed when I was starting
a podcast, it was going to be about fitness.
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Fitness yeah because a lot of people i mean most people in the south know you
as a trainer yeah and that's how i think you mentioned it a couple episodes ago that's how you,
we got to know a lot of people here was through that endeavor but yeah so retired now retired.
But but i get a lot of questions too about it right i work out six to seven
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days a week that's It's very fit.
Every week. Yeah. And it's just something I've always done. For a 48-year-old man.
Why do you have to say my age? Because it makes it more impressive how fit you are.
So yeah, I mean, I talk a lot about it at work.
Obviously, you know, some people work out, they have different regimens,
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and they stick with it for a little while, then they fall off.
But it's just, to me, it's always been super important.
And I try to stay super consistent. So, yeah, we thought a great thing to do
would just be to talk about fitness and nutrition and not just what the normal regimen is because,
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right, we are getting older,
getting close to 50, you're getting close to 43,
but it's different, right?
It's different now for us at our ages than it was when we were 30 or we were 20. So, yeah, yeah.
We're not going to tell a bunch of different things about what we think anybody
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should do, but maybe just stuff about how we focus our lives around fitness
and nutrition, what we do, right?
What works for us and just how we kind of try to balance it all. Yeah.
So why don't you tell us like why staying fit has always been important to you?
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Is it aesthetics? Is it health?
Is it because of your sports background that it's just normal to you?
Yeah. For me, it's probably all three.
I've played sports my entire life and I've been very athletic and very into just being active.
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And I really started, I guess, kind of quote unquote working out when I was
probably 13, 14, but that was, right. It was all kind of sports related.
And so I played on a bunch of soccer teams.
I was on three or four teams at once, usually travel teams, high school teams, right.
State teams, just different teams. And so I was always active.
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And back then I didn't really think about it. It was just training, right.
It was just like, I've just got what you did. Yeah. I just, it's what I did.
And it was I was always a person that...
I knew that the more in shape I was, the better I could be, right?
So I didn't like, even playing soccer, I didn't go out a ton and just juggle
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and practice with the ball and things of that nature.
I actually probably focused more on fitness and my body and my balance and how
I positioned my body when I was on the field through working out.
And I realized that that really helped me a lot in sports when I was young.
And you played in college.
I did. Yeah. So I kind of, you know, I played, yeah, my whole life.
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And so, you know, fast forward through that.
And I mean, I had worked out or been in sports or been on multiple teams pretty
much every day, really my entire life.
I mean, really since I was 10 and 10 or 11 years old.
And so it just, for me, even after I got out of school and, you know,
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kind of, I still played in some adult leagues and still played actually for
quite a few years after college just for fun.
But I always just needed that exercise, right? I just needed something.
I needed, I don't sit still. I think you said that even last time. I can't sit still.
So for me, it's always about just kind of movement. and
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yeah and so i don't know there definitely
was there a point where it was about aesthetics to answer
that part of the question yeah i mean i think so right i
think that and still is to a degree yeah yeah
definitely i mean i i want to look fit
right i'm not obsessed with it i don't you
know i don't need to be a bodybuilder i
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don't want to be that right but i do i enjoy looking fit yes yeah right do i
want to be overweight no no do i do i want to manage it absolutely yeah and
not and also not get to i think what has also kept you working out consistently.
Is you know it's harder to come back if you stop for a while or if you let off
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the gas and coming back into it, starting over again.
A hundred percent. It's always harder. Yeah. It's always more of a struggle.
It's harder to get back on that bus.
It's harder to then stay consistent.
So I think that also is a factor too, right? I mean, because you don't want
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to start over again ever.
No, I mean, it is. It's one of those things that feels like it's almost just
in my DNA. And I just have to do it like every day to feel good.
But there are times, absolutely, where, right? I mean, even now,
we'll go on vacation for a week and-
Usually we work out kind of every other day yeah right so
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it's we're still we're still exercising but it's not
as much but this last vacation we didn't
work out at all no i mean i think that's the first seven day
period where i haven't worked out in probably my entire life
same yeah i mean and we brought more workout clothes
we always do but yeah we just didn't we just kind
of like just get around to it this time yeah and which
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was fine i mean we're always like walking around and doing and stuff with the kids and
everything anyway but yeah we were like leaving
there and we're like can you believe we didn't work out one time
while we were here i know but i did i did get back though and i was kind of
like all right like i don't want to regress yeah and you're also kind of like
chomping at the bit to get back because you have all that pent-up energy yeah
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and like you just need to get back into a routine need to get back into feeling
good you're not just like Like,
you know, vacations, sitting around eating and drinking and having fun.
Yeah. So, yeah, you're like ready to get back into it when you come back.
Yeah, definitely. What about you? Like, so how do you feel about that?
So, you know, I grew up cheerleading, gymnastics, dance.
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So I was always active, but never thought of it as working out.
Like i don't think i even ever went to
a gym until i was in my 20s because i was just always so active yeah but yeah
i think i think i started going to the gym in my 20s like after all the cheerleading
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and stuff was like really over and i just wanted to stay in shape.
I didn't really know what to do because I really had never had to,
you know, quote unquote, work out before that.
I just was always really active. So it was an adjustment to like figure out
what to do. Like, do you just get on the treadmill for an hour?
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Do you like, you know, run yourself crazy on the elliptical or do you,
you know, start doing machines and not really know what you're doing?
So it was, it was a lot of that where in the beginning I was,
it definitely wasn't a passion of mine. Right. That's for sure.
Even when we met. No. Like it wasn't, you were active. Yeah.
But you weren't in a typical quote unquote gym routine.
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No, and you always were. Yeah. You always have been since I've known you. Yeah.
Not going to a gym because you prefer to work out at home.
But, yeah, you were, there was definitely quite a few years where you worked out and I didn't at all.
So, yeah. And then, I think for me, What actually got me serious about it was
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I was driven by aesthetics in the beginning.
Yeah. Because I had had the kids and then I was feeling really like I have to do something here.
Like I had two kids within 17 months, you know, obviously with the cancer the
first time and I was on steroids and there was a lot of weight gain.
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You took steroids so you could like build muscle? No. Gee. Pregnancy is much different.
And then only lost probably about half of it before getting pregnant again.
So basically was right back where I was starting after the first pregnancy after the second.
And then it's like you have two little babies and it's really hard to like pull it together.
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So I think it started with like a lot of walks and stuff like that.
And then I just, the scale wasn't moving and I was getting frustrated.
And that's when I joined a gym and really started getting into fitness.
And even then it was still a long time before I got like really serious about
it or should I say enjoyed it.
I was really trying to find like, do I like Zumba?
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Do I like cardio? Do I want to lift weights?
Do I want to just like putz around in classes and machines, you know,
so it definitely took it took a while to figure out that I really love strength training,
a little bit of cardio, I'm not into doing tons of cardio, I would much prefer
going for a walk every day than having to do a bunch of cardio.
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Yeah, I think, you know, I think that one of the questions I get all the time,
right, when we start talking about not we, but when I talk with other people
about fitness, and they ask what I do, or what you do, it's,
it always is what's your routine? What do you do every day?
Right? And I think that, I mean, we can talk a little about what we do.
But I think it's, it really is different for every person. And people think
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that, right? Oh, I need to do. magic thing.
Yeah, there's one magic thing, or I need to do cardio every day,
or I need to focus on Zumba every day.
Walk us through a little bit about kind of just your routine,
maybe what it is over the last kind of five years.
Yeah, because it's definitely changed here and there a little bit.
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But I, so I am more of a, and I think it's just because I got used to doing
this. So now I've kind of kept it this way.
I'm definitely not as serious about like strength training as I used to be.
I still do it every, you know, five days a week. and I've always found it easier
for myself to cut every day into a body part.
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So, I mean, this has been my every week for as long as I can remember.
Monday is legs, Tuesdays is shoulders and abs.
Wednesday, I do more of a cardio or like a HIIT workout to break it up a little bit.
And then Thursdays is chest and back, and Fridays is arms, biceps, triceps.
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And then on the weekends, and I always walk also. That's kind of how you start.
I start by walking, yeah, and then get into strength training.
And then on the weekends, I try to go for like a long walk or sometimes I'll work out with you here.
But for me, that's always worked. I like having, knowing each time I'm going
into the gym, what I'm gonna be working on that day.
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And I may not do these same exact things every time, but I stick to those body parts.
Whereas you kind of do, You're kind of more of like a full body person kind of like more often.
Yeah. I definitely...
And the older I get, the harder it is. But I feel like my body has always recovered
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pretty quickly. So I'll do...
Every other day. So I'll do like chest and back one day. And then the next day,
I hate cardio. I mean, which is.
Except for now you've found the Peloton. Correct.
But I was going to say, I hate, like I've always hated running,
which is ironic because I played soccer my whole life.
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Yeah. But that was, I was engaged in a game. Right. But going out on a road
and running, ugh, horrible.
So anyway, I'll do like chest and back one day. The next day,
Peloton. And I'll do Peloton for 30 or 45 minutes.
Sometimes an hour right just depends how i feel the next
day is shoulders i do i
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go hard yeah hence the sweat um but the next day shoulders and arms and then
back to peloton and then it's either to your point it's either like a full body
i don't sometimes i'll do legs i kind of switch it into that but sometimes do
legs but legs is usually like my sixth day yeah so peloton three
times a week, like body workouts three times a week.
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And then, you know, Sundays we try to, we try to like today we went surfing, right?
Both of us went surfing for probably about half an hour each behind the boat,
which is a, it's a workout. It really is. It's fun. My legs were shaking.
Yeah. But we'll, we'll try to do something active on that seventh day,
even though it's not necessarily quote unquote a gym.
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And sometimes it's like tons of yard work or, you know, right. Lifting couches.
And dropping them moving furniture so yeah
i think that's that's a pretty good idea of what our routine is
like and that's that's really how i worked as a
trainer also like i was i always trained people kind of in that same split you
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know you break up different days to different body parts that way you can concentrate
on you're not just kind of like doing a little bit of everything every day you
can like hit shoulders hard one day and if they're sore you know you're it needs to recover,
you're not doing it again the next day. Yeah.
I think something else that's always worked for both of us is that we...
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I think we vary our quote-unquote routines quite a bit.
Yeah. And you kind of mentioned that, right? But sometimes we'll go three or
four weeks in a row of heavy weights.
And then the following like two weeks, it'll be lighter weights and higher reps.
Yeah. And different exercises.
Yeah. But I think that's been really key for both of us, I think.
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Well, I think it keeps you interested too.
It's not so monotonous that like it's the same thing week after week and you're getting bored of it.
So yeah that is true and it's good it's good
for like muscle confusion too
to not just do the exact same thing all the time to
just kind of change things up a little bit yeah that's why
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i try to do like that midweek like hit kind of workout too just because just
to just switch things up yeah you know just to get things going a little differently
but that kind of like brings my next point too about because people are always
asking how do you stay so motivated all the time I'm like,
how are you always so motivated to do this every day?
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And I've always said, you will not always be motivated.
You're not going to be motivated every day. I am not motivated every day.
But that's when discipline needs to kick in. And on the days that you're really not motivated,
even if you don't do the full workout you were going to do or a whole hour or
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you just go for a walk or something that day, at least you do something.
It's when you do nothing, that's easy. That can turn into doing nothing day after day.
And then the ball starts rolling on that and then it's hard to get back.
And the older you get, the more easy that is. Yes, yes. And harder to get back.
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So yeah, I think consistency is more in line than motivation.
Yeah. And also...
I think having a consistency as in turning into a routine, right?
Like every day, like in the summer, I'm all messed up because my normal day
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is get up with the kids, get them ready, drive them to school.
As soon as I drop them off, I go directly to the gym. So I'm not coming home
in between. There's no like downtime.
I've got to be ready for the gym when I leave the the house to bring
them to school and that having that routine it
almost becomes like you're on autopilot yeah
like i don't even think about whether i want to go or not it's just what i do
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after i get out of the carpool line right you know so i think that's important
too is like just establishing a routine that works for you like you used to
be after work you used to work out at At like 5.30,
6 o'clock. Because I'm not a morning person. Which I never understood.
I'm not a morning person. I don't like the mornings. No. Yeah.
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But I know for myself, I couldn't be motivated at 6 o'clock to start a workout.
Right. And I can't anymore.
Yeah. Because now you really, because you don't get up at like 5 o'clock in the morning, but.
I get up early though. You'll get
up early enough to get a good workout in before getting ready for work.
Yeah. I mean, I used to just want to sleep as late as I could,
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get to work, come home from work, work out, and then the night was set.
But obviously, a couple of years ago, we started to realize,
holy cow, we got to help the kids with homework.
And I've got dad duties at night
and all these different things and activities we have to run them to.
And it was hard for me. You're gone all day and then you come home and be gone
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for another hour, hour and 15 to work out.
So it it was just taking a chunk out of like family time. Yeah.
So yeah, like two, two and a half years ago, I switched and I mean,
it sucked for like a good eight weeks, probably six or eight weeks to like get
up and motivate myself to do that.
But now like I'm up and I want to do it. And it's to your point, it's a routine, right?
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It's a routine. I get up and thankfully you get the kids ready and it gives
me that opportunity to do what I need to do.
Do but i get home from work and it's and it's you're done i'm done
which is so nice yeah yeah i yeah i
i could never do it at that time and and that works for some other people
and that's great like whenever it works for you is like it it's
not better to do it in the morning or to do it at night right it's just you
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just want to do it i don't think it's it matters if you when you do it it's
just to your point do it do it consistently don't say one morning you're going
to wake up and then the next day you're going to do it at night yeah like and
set like appropriate expectations for yourself.
Like, if you know you're not a morning person, but to work out before you go
to work would mean you getting up,
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at like 5.30 in the morning, five o'clock in the morning, and that's just,
you know that's not gonna work for you as much as you want it to.
Then you gotta do what works for you.
Then you might be a P, you know, exerciser, you know, instead.
So you just gotta set yourself up with appropriate expectations and,
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you know, do what's right for you.
So you're, obviously, like you just said, you're very disciplined.
I think we both are. very disciplined we're also both motivated
for our own reasons right whether it's
aesthetics healthy lifestyle setting a good example for our kids whatever maybe
but what's what do you think is there a difference between the two or is it
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being motivated and yeah just like having a motivated disciplined yes i do think
there is a difference because like i said you're not always
going to be motivated and unless you're like
you're training for a goal you're training for a competition
you're training for a sport you're training for something like
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a specific goal in mind yeah then yeah you're going to be motivated
to finish that task but if it's just an everyday routine you're trying to stay
healthy you're trying to keep weight off you're trying to get weight off stay
in shape you know as you get older these things are way more important yeah
And as you age, no matter who you are,
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you lose bone density, you lose muscle mass.
And if those things start going by the wayside and you aren't staying consistent
with them as you're getting older, it's just going to be harmful to your health later on. Right.
You know, I'm not saying that you need to be doing deadlifts when you're 60
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years old, but keeping some sort of strength training routine is only going
to make you live longer, live healthier,
be there for kids, grandkids,
vacations, spouses.
You know it's just gonna it's just gonna make your life yeah
better it really is it's just it's
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just gonna improve quality of life as you
get older like there's no argument
to that like you no one ever says like i
regret spending time exercising or staying in shape or working out like you
don't you never regret that no i mean and i don't want this to come off wrong
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i mean there's There's definitely a genetic component to looking young and right.
And from that predisposition. But I think at the same time, like people look
at you all the time and they're like, there's no way you're 42.
Yeah. Like you look like you're 32. Right. So it's.
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That doesn't just happen for everybody, right? Like I said, there's definitely
a genetic part of that for some people, but it's, you work at it.
Yeah. Yeah, and you stay young.
Yeah, I always used to hate when people say, you're so lucky that you still
look like that or you're so lucky that you still have.
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After kids, you still have a fit body And I'm always like, there is no luck in this whatsoever.
I am not predisposed to having like a fit trim body.
You are. Like you're built like your mom who is just a naturally thin person.
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She works at it too, of course. But I think that's your body type.
My family is, they're just bigger people.
And and and the
minute i let loose on my nutrition and
fitness i feel it see it
immediately yeah like i'm my clothes
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are tight like within like a week of you
know falling off track so there's on my
end there's no luck involved like i have to stay in the zone if i want to maintain
my fitness level my body my size you know I have I have to work at it and that's
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just the bottom line yeah you are genetically gifted,
which is annoying and you really are like I've seen times where you just like.
You put no thought into like your food or
like you'll take vacations
and eat and drink whatever you want and not exercise the whole
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time and you come back and
like a day later all that like excess weight water weight feeling gross is gone
whereas like i have to work at it for a couple weeks after so but i would argue
if i didn't work out every day for the last 40 years what it what Would I look like that?
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Well, we don't know. Right. We'll never know. Right. I mean,
and that's the thing, right?
Is yes, I know I'm genetically built that way. A certain way, yeah.
But I work my ass off too. Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying you don't.
So I think that there's this, there's a side to it as well that it could be,
it could be different if I didn't work out. Yeah.
I don't know. I know mine would be different though.
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Like there's, there's, like I look at food like that. can gain. Smell it.
Smell the calories. Yeah. On that same idea then, how important has nutrition always been to you?
Because I think as an athlete growing up, you never had to think about food.
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No. I mean, as an athlete until I was, I mean, really from, I mean,
really until I was probably.
After college. I never had to think about it.
I mean, sure, I would think about things like before games or big weekends of several games.
Yeah, I would definitely try to eat more carbs and things, right?
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Just like a normal person would.
But for me, I couldn't eat enough. Yeah.
You were just one of those really thin people that were trying to put weight on.
Yeah. I mean, I remember several times when I was younger going out and it'd be me,
and right my parents or
even like a friend or a girl
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i was dating or whatever and we go to dinner and i'd finish my meal i'd finish
her meal or my friend's meal i'd finish my mom's meal like i i'd eat six seven
eight thousand calories a day yeah but you were burning but i was killing like
just running through it so i don't know i mean definitely and then when i got out of college,
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i didn't i i didn't
obviously have that appetite because i wasn't burning as many calories in
sports but i could kind of eat whatever i wanted yeah i will
say when i turned probably for me it was probably it was probably like 44 yeah
45 maybe like three or four years ago i i kind of like made that my body and
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it made the turn yeah your metabolism slowed down yeah and i And I was like, oh, crap,
right? I have to start thinking about this now. I got to think.
And it just, before I could eat whatever I wanted and I could,
if I worked out harder, I could burn it all off and look just as great.
Yeah. This time, after like 44, 45 years old, I couldn't eat whatever I wanted.
(35:58):
And no matter how hard I worked out, it didn't just come off. Yeah.
So that was like the tough part. And that was mentally tough for me.
Well, yeah. Yeah, when it happens to anybody, yeah, it is. Because that's just...
A fact yeah you know as you grow get
older like it is harder yeah to lose
(36:20):
weight to you know you can't help especially and
i'm speaking from a woman's perspective hormones are
constantly changing and then especially when you get into like a perimenopause
state and your hormones are really going crazy like i could you could stay on
the exact same routine that you've been doing And if your hormones want to fly
(36:43):
off the handle a little bit and you start gaining belly fat.
It doesn't matter what you eat or how many sit-ups you're going to do.
That's your body changing and that's just a fact. And it just makes it harder.
And it's very frustrating. and I think people get really in their heads because
it's like, I didn't change anything and I'm gaining weight or I didn't change
(37:05):
anything and I cannot lose these five pounds or whatever it is.
And sometimes you just have to like really realize that your body changes,
it happens to everyone and you can either embrace it or you can fight it and
then your cortisol levels go up And then your hormones are really kind of like fighting each other.
(37:28):
And then it can get even worse, you know? And so I like my advice to people,
like when it starts getting harder is always to just,
first of all, try to relax and not get stressed out about it.
Cause the more you're stressed out about it, the higher cortisol levels are going to be.
And the much more difficult it's going to be to shed those pounds, you know.
(37:54):
Stop the changes from happening so rapidly you
know and at that time it really is more about
like just stay consistent just stay healthy just
do all the right things the things that
are out of your control are out of your control you know
and you kind of just have to let like life happen and and and it's also like
(38:17):
you gotta start enjoying at some point too yeah and i think i've I've really
kind of turned that corner in the past year or so where I've always been,
you know, I was somebody that weighed every ounce of food that I ate and was
so strict and so restrictive all the time.
(38:38):
And it made me crazy sometimes because I couldn't enjoy.
And that was my main focus. And then all of a sudden you realize like, why?
Why am I so focused on this? It's not making me any happier.
It's not making my quality of life any better. And it's not...
(38:58):
Nobody cares right that i
can you know be this strict with my food
and my nutrition and be on top of it all the time like it's not
impressing anybody i care you care yeah you
care i don't want to eat salads all day yeah so i
care yeah so i i think now we're
(39:19):
probably more on that like 80 20 yeah
rule right you know like 80 of the time probably monday through
thursday day we eat really healthy not
counting calories by any means not eating salads all day
but like like you'll go to you're a big fan of
chipotle and instead of getting a burrito you'll get
a bowl yep right so just like little changes like that
(39:40):
you know we'll in the morning have a protein shake instead of
having like a breakfast sandwich so it's
like doing stuff like that so that the other 10 20
of the time on the weekends at nights
vacations we can just kind of like let loose and
enjoy and not have that like fear of
food right that like i used to have that that voice
(40:02):
yeah you know the food noise basically all the
time and it's just like our life is so much better yeah i think especially women
and i say this after speaking with a lot of women right throughout my life just
about fitness and things and and then speaking to you so again not to categorize but
(40:24):
I think women get so fixated on a number. Yes.
Right? I still do. I still am. Right. But you get fixated on this number.
And I used to be similar, right?
Like I knew my weight, if I was
like within a couple pounds of this one number, I knew I would look good.
Because newsflash everyone, your weight changes every single day.
(40:46):
Yes. It changes numerous times during the day. Yeah. So that is normal.
Right. Totally normal. But I think it just becomes this unrealistic thing that
you're trying to go after. And chasing.
You're chasing. And I realized as I got older and turned to kind of that hill,
(41:06):
right, was, okay, if I'm within five to seven pounds of this number,
I feel good. I probably look pretty good.
Right? I'm okay with myself. Realistic.
I'm realistic. And I think that goes back to your comments about food and like
enjoying life and having some drinks and eating some things on the weekend.
It's like, okay, I don't have to be, right.
(41:29):
I don't have to be this ideal weight. I can be within five, six,
seven pounds of this and still enjoy life and be really happy and not be stressed.
And more of like, try not to get over that.
You know seven pounds right if your threshold is five to
seven pounds like when you start creeping into eight nine pounds
that's when like yeah you know the wheels start falling off and
(41:51):
you're like you know okay and then it's getting yeah you
got to either pull back or that's when it's hard to that's when people lose
motivation because it's like well i'm just like getting bigger anyway so right
f it yeah exactly you know what's interesting too i want to know your thoughts
because your apple watch broke yep which is why you don't wear one anymore but
i made the decision to stop wearing mine.
(42:13):
And I want to hear both sides of this because I made the decision to stop wearing mine.
Now, I wore a fitness watch before the Apple Watch was ever a thing.
I was always wearing a Fitbit or a Garmin or something.
I was always, like, I always had something tracking my movement, I'll say.
(42:35):
And then I realized that I was a slave to that watch. I was a slave to those numbers.
I was a slave to hitting those steps per day and the closing the rings and burning
the calories and making sure I put in my watch like the exact workout I was
doing and and putting way too much emphasis on those calories burned.
(42:59):
Burned that my watch said I was burning, which I, sorry to tell you guys,
but your watch is way off.
Your watch is way off. Okay.
It's, it's, it's a general idea of what your calorie expenditure is.
If you're counting that as my watch says I burned 500 calories during this workout.
(43:25):
And so if I eat 400 more calories today, then I'm still in 100 calorie deficit.
Like, no, that is not right.
And it's just if you can be a person that can wear the watch and be just healthy
about it as you're just using it as a tool, I think it's great.
(43:45):
Like you, how you always looked at it.
But somebody like me who would become obsessive over it and quite literally
be a slave to my watch, like if it was charging, I wouldn't move because then
those steps didn't count.
Yeah. And those calories didn't count for the rest of the day.
My movement room might not be closed.
(44:05):
So when I took that off, it was like a big step for me.
And that sounds silly, but like when you find those things that are holding
you captive to enjoying your life,
and for me, it was something so simple as wearing a fitness
watch every day my life changed when
i stopped how did it change like what what do you do now like how do you well
(44:28):
how do you track that how do you stay on top i thought if i didn't have that
on tracking everything i did i was immediately going to blow up i was going
to gain weight i was not going to be as fit and guess what.
Nothing has changed. Okay.
Because I still need movement. I still move.
(44:49):
I still go for walks. I still work out. I still do all these things.
My watch doesn't have a hold on me.
My watch isn't what's motivating me to do things anymore, keeping me captive.
Like I just do those things because they're the right things to do and they
make me feel good and it will keep me healthy.
So taking Taking that watch off has been, I'll never, ever wear one again.
(45:12):
Right. I am interested in the Oura Ring just because that one's more about recovery
than it is really about like expenditure. Yeah.
But what about for you? Like it was an adjustment for you when your watch broke.
Yeah, it was, like you said, it was different for me.
I never used mine to measure calories or measure, right, steps or anything like that.
(45:33):
The only thing that I found for me that was really beneficial was heart rate,
right? Because when I work out, I try to keep my heart rate at a specific level.
And I know that whether I'm lifting weights and I can keep it at 140-ish,
150-ish beats per minute, that's probably the zone.
(45:56):
If I'm on the Peloton, I want to keep it at like 170.
I mean, 170 to 180. Yeah. And so I know that as long as my heart rate's in that
zone, I'm going to burn calories. I don't really care how many it is because I'm not.
Well, I think that's also the thing too. You're not working out to burn calories.
Right. And that is another thing that I always tell, like another piece of advice I give people.
(46:20):
If you're exercising just to burn calories, you're in it for the wrong reasons. Right.
Yes, of course you're going to burn calories while you're working out.
You're also going to lose water weight while you're working out.
You're also, you know, there's a lot of factors that go into it. you can't spot lose fat.
People think that if their belly is fat, they should do sit-ups.
(46:41):
Yeah. It has nothing to do with that. Your abs are under there no matter how
much fat you have laying on top.
So it's really like...
You need to work out because it makes you feel good, because it keeps you strong,
because it keeps you healthy and fit, and because it's good for you. Yeah.
Not because you want to burn a thousand calories in a workout.
Well, I think that's, again, the funny thing. And I don't know if you've ever
(47:03):
seen me do this, but sometimes once in a blue moon, I'll get up first thing
in the morning and- Weigh yourself both times. I will.
You have seen it. So I'll go to the bathroom.
I'll make sure I'm at my best possible weight, right? And I'll weigh myself
and then I'll go outside and I'll burn.
Legitimately, I can burn a good 500 to 600 calories on the Peloton. Yeah, for sure.
(47:27):
And sweat probably, I don't know, another, whatever, tenth of a pound or- At
least, probably more of that.
Probably more sweat out. But then I drink a lot of water at the same time when I'm on it.
So I've kind of tested it just to see, okay, I burned all these calories.
I sweat a ton of this stuff right of water out i should weigh less when i walk back in.
(47:52):
And weigh myself 45 or minutes or an hour
later every single time i weigh
more every single time really because i've drank probably
more water than you've lost and i've lost yeah and like
so it's just it's just a funny thing respect that the
funny thing is when people do weigh less after a workout they're like
i just lost weight exactly you didn't that's not
(48:12):
and that's my point right it's just kind of funny that you can't become
a right you just can't become tied to
that yeah you can't you just can't i know i worked my butt
off and i burned a ton of calories and that's what's important you felt
good yeah you did yeah you did what was right for your body yeah okay so you
don't you don't feel the need to get that watch back like you don't oh i don't
(48:33):
miss it at all yeah you've had it i don't miss it at all either i would never
i mean and honestly so i mean since we're talking about kind of health and fitness all the other.
All the other side effects of constantly looking at my wrist,
constantly feeling the buzz. It was like a, it was like crack.
Yeah. And I didn't, I didn't realize it.
(48:54):
It's those hits of like dopamine. Dopamine. Yeah. I didn't realize it until I took it off.
And it took me about three months that when I, my phone, I could,
sometimes my phone will like be sitting beside me, right?
And I'll, I'll hear it vibrate for a message and I would automatically lift
my arm. Look at your wrist.
Yeah. And I'm like, I didn't have my watch on. Like that's a problem.
(49:16):
Yeah. And that, and, and totally off of the fitness subject,
taking that watch off and not being connected and available at all times,
it makes a huge difference too.
Huge difference. Like I feel free. Yeah.
Cause if it's on your wrist, you're looking at the text message that comes in,
you're looking at the email that comes in, you're, then you're constantly connected
instead of being in the moment of what you're, whatever you're doing,
(49:40):
whether it's working out or anything.
A hundred percent. So yeah, I'm against the watch. Yeah, I wasn't, but I am now.
All right, we got a few minutes left. So how about a few quick hits? Okay.
Want to do some quick hits? Yep. All right, so supplements. Yeah.
What do you use? What do you think's good? I really don't anymore.
I really don't use. I take vitamins, a daily multivitamin, biotin.
(50:04):
I take the things that I need.
I never really give recommendations on vitamins to people because everybody is so different.
If you're seriously trying to build muscle mass, creatine is really the only
supplement that has been so widely tested and proven that it does make a difference.
(50:27):
But to some people, it makes them hold water. To me, when I took creatine,
I blew up. I was so swollen because it made me hold onto water.
So like I said, it's different for everyone. one.
Now, if you're looking at supplements like pre-workout, protein powder,
stuff like that, yes, I still use that kind of thing, but I'm not a big supplementer.
(50:49):
I'm trying to get my nutrients and everything from my foods and not from supplements.
Got it. Agreed. Yep. Same for me. What else? How important is BMI?
Not at all. Not at all.
And if your doctor is telling you that your BMI is putting you in an overweight category.
(51:11):
Tell him or her that you're not interested in their BS.
Because BMI is the dumbest measurement of anything.
Like it does not take into account anything. BMI stands for body mass index.
And all it really takes into account is height, weight, and like male or female, basically.
(51:35):
So put no emphasis on your BMI. So I'm 5'4", and my range is between like 128 and 135 probably.
But there were times where I had a lot more muscle on me, and I was 140, 142.
(51:56):
And my BMI for my height and being a female was putting me at obese.
And I was like so lean.
That's why you cannot put... don't put any thought into BMI.
It shouldn't even be allowed to be measured anymore.
Yeah, when you just did a fitness competition years ago, and when you did that, you looked...
(52:18):
I thought unhealthy lean, right? Like you were shedding a lot of fat and you
had so much muscle, but that's the point you were saying that your BMI was showing that you were obese.
Yeah. And you were actually like, I thought you looked. I was all muscle.
Yeah. Yeah. So that's crazy. So BMI is stupid. Don't even think about it. That's unbelievable.
Quick fixes slash weight loss medication.
(52:41):
They don't work. Well, those are two different things. Okay.
Those are two very different things. Quick fixes are like, I'm going to do the Atkins diet.
No, that didn't work that week. I'm going to do the keto.
I'm going to cut out all carbs. I'm going to cut out all meat.
Unless you have allergies to something or intolerances to something,
you shouldn't be cutting any food group out.
(53:04):
Now, if you can't tolerate dairy, obviously don't eat dairy.
That's not what I'm saying. But to never eat carbs, yeah, you'll lose weight. But guess what?
That's coming from because you're cutting calories.
Not because you're cutting carbohydrates.
Cut calories from any of the food groups and you're going to lose weight.
(53:25):
It has nothing to do with the carbohydrates themselves.
Carbohydrates are the same calories per gram as protein.
Say that again. So per gram of protein is four calories.
Per gram of carbohydrates is four calories. Per gram of fat is nine calories.
(53:51):
So you're not doing yourself any favors by taking your energy source,
carbohydrates, out of your diet. You need carbohydrates.
Because once you start eating them again, you will gain the weight back.
I guarantee you. Makes sense. All right. And then you said weight loss medication,
totally different than a quick fix.
(54:11):
Yes, it has the popularity and the boom of weight loss medication right now is going crazy.
We don't have a lot of time to get into it today. I, I think it's a dangerous,
I think it's dangerous to be honest.
I do. I think it's really dangerous because it is not meant to lose those last
five pounds, the last 10 pounds.
(54:33):
It's, it's meant for like, that's, that's being irresponsible and whoever's
prescribing it as being irresponsible, giving it to somebody for that.
Weight loss medication is for very overweight people that cannot get it under control. Okay.
To take a GLP-1, like to take medication, give yourself a shot to lose a couple
(54:58):
pounds or to look skinny or be skinny is not the answer.
Okay. And also, So if you're not being,
like, if you don't have a coach or nutritionist, a nutrition coach,
somebody in your corner when you're taking these drugs telling you that you
still need to prioritize protein and you still need to eat.
(55:19):
Okay. Because the drugs are making you have zero appetite.
So you have to keep up. You're going to lose all your, you can't just lose fat.
That's the problem with these drugs is that you're gonna get skinny but you're
also gonna lose your muscle mass you can't help it if you're not eating the calories you don't have,
like you can't keep your muscle you can't just lose fat okay so if you're if
(55:45):
you're wanting to get on weight loss medication if you're 10 or 15 pounds over
the weight you want to be and that's what you're the route you're thinking of
going please do your homework it's not for those things Got it. Change your lifestyle.
All right. You got 60 seconds. How do you make a realistic goal?
What's the first realistic goal that somebody can set in 60 seconds or less?
(56:08):
Small goals. You have to start with small goals. You can't say,
I want to lose 50 pounds and that's your goal.
You have to start with this week, I want to lose two pounds.
I'm going to do all the right things. I'm going to weigh myself.
I'm going to go for two pounds a week and I'm going to celebrate that win.
If your goal is too big, it gets to be too unattainable and then you get frustrated
(56:29):
and you lose steam because,
when you lose two pounds you're looking at it like
a failure because you still have 48 more to go right so break a big goal into
small goals and stay like on a weekly goal mission okay got it that's it awesome
and be healthy eat all your food groups well again your own food know where
(56:53):
where your food comes from.
Yeah. Again, that's a whole other topic. Oh, yeah. We could do a whole episode just on food.
Yeah. And yeah, you're getting food from somewhere.
Even if you're getting a piece of grilled chicken from somewhere,
you have no idea how much oil they've used to cook that. You have no idea what
kind of quality chicken that is.
So you can't just assume because you're eating grilled chicken from somewhere
(57:13):
else that it's the same as if you were to grill a piece of chicken.
Yeah, right. Because you have no control. you lose control
when you get it from a restaurant or get it somewhere else so
if you're serious about losing weight or getting healthy cook your own foods
buy your buy quality ingredients use less oils be particular about the oils
(57:35):
you use and the fats and things that are going into your food have control keep
control the only way to keep control of that kind of thing is to make your own food.
Awesome. So I can only imagine that some of the stuff that you've talked about,
and even myself potentially, we'll probably get a lot of questions about this.
Yeah, and I would love to. Yeah, so please ask your questions.
(57:56):
There's 10 other things that we didn't even get to on our list.
Right, let us know what you want us to expand upon, or have more questions about,
or things we didn't cover in this.
I could talk about food all day long. I could talk about fitness all day long.
I could talk about goals all day long. So, yeah, I'm down to talk about any of it.
All right. So send you a message. Yeah.
(58:18):
Awesome. Awesome. Great job, Matt. Well, thank you. You're just really just
digging right into this role.
Well, now that I'm official, I feel like I have to bring my A game.
Well, I think you already were anyway, but. I kind of always try to.
I just got to live up to your hype. Yes. We may or may not have an episode coming
(58:39):
out next week. Like I said, we're going to be on vacation.
If we can get another one recorded before that, well, you know,
hopefully we will and we can get that out. But if not, we may lag a week here next week.
Yeah, for the holiday weekend. So either way, follow the show,
share the show, like, comment, follow us on Instagram.
And thank you, as always, for tuning in. Thank you. All right. Bye-bye. All right.
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