Loki Part 1: Their Mythology, Comics Heritage, and Season 1 with Ben “Books Schwartz (episode 2, Exploring Evil)

“What do you do when other people have a story about you in their head, and they won’t let you change? They won’t let you do something that doesn’t fit the idea they have. They’ve already made up their mind about you. What do you do about that?”

- Ben “Books” Schwartz\

Welcome or welcome back to our podcast series called “OutThink the Classics,” part of my own personal quest to contextualize classic pop culture for modern families.

Our first series is “Exploring Evil,” where we will explore the concept of evil in classical kids’ stories. We started this journey with the Wicked Witch of the West– and now we get to play in the world of Norse mythology and my favorite trickster, Loki!

Please welcome Video Game Writer/Nomadic Storyteller Ben “Books” Schwartz, my friend from all over the world, who was the first person to introduce me to Kid Loki, so of course, I asked them to be my guest for the background and Season 1 of LOKI.

Housekeeping: Please forgive my Slack notifications sound. 

The OutThink Team

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Cindy Marie Jenkins, Host & Creative Producer

Ben “Books” Schwartz, Special Guest

Avi Glijanksy, Podcast Producer

Adam Emperor Southard, Theme Composer (also a fantastic photographer)

Annie Collins, PR & Marketing Manager

Angela Zhong, Logo Designer/OutThink Media

Maria Pasquarelli, Canva Coordinator

Produced by CMJ Communications LLC, DBA OutThink Media

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Show Notes

1. [original article] Jenkins, Cindy Marie, “What ‘The Bad Guys’ Teach Kids About Empathy,” JingKids International, 18 September 2020, https://www.beijing-kids.com/blog/2020/09/18/the-bad-guys-teach-kids-empathy/.
2. [updated article] Jenkins, Cindy Marie, “How ‘The Bad Guys’ Teach Kids Empathy,” JingKids International, 24 October 2020, https://outthinkmedia.com/2022/10/24/how-the-bad-guys-teach-kids-empathy/.
3. D’Aulaire, Ingri and Edgar Parin, D’Aulaire Greek Myths, https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/36027/daulaires-book-of-greek-myths-by-ingri-daulaire-and-edgar-parin-daulaire/
4. D’Aulaire, Ingri and Edgar Parin, D’Aulaire Norse Myths, https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/735325/daulaires-book-of-norse-myths-by-ingri-daulaire-edgar-parin-daulaire-preface-by-michael-chabon/ 
5. “Modern Wonka Doesn’t Work,” uploaded by Jack Saint, 22 August 2023, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogMM2zdGzIs 
6. Wint, @dril, https://twitter.com/dril?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor .
7. God, The Tweet of God, https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod .
8. Chuck Tingle, https://www.chucktingle.com/ .
9. Journey Into Mystery (1952-1966), Marvel, https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/2032/journey_into_mystery_1952_-_1966 
10. Sturlasom, Snorri, Heimskringla or The Chronicle of the Kings of Norway, produced by Douglas G. Killings, and David Widger, https://www.gutenberg.org/files/598/598-h/598-h.htm.
11. She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, produced by Dreamworks Animation, https://she-raandtheprincessesofpower.fandom.com/wiki/She-Ra_and_the_Princesses_of_Power_Wiki 
12. Ayala, Nicolas, “Why Loki Always Says He’s Burdened With Glorious Purpose,” Screenrant, 11 June 2021, https://screenrant.com/loki-glorious-purpose-quote-explained/ .
13. Good Omens, Amazon Prime, 2019-2023,