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May 30, 2025 58 mins

In this compelling episode of Outta the Cage, host Roy Thompson sits down with Seda and Amanda, founders of Esas, a groundbreaking clean fragrance company that’s disrupting the toxic norm of the industry. From the polished boardrooms of the world’s largest fragrance corporations to humble beginnings blending formulas at home, these two women share how chronic health battles, cultural heritage, and relentless curiosity led them to revolutionize the way we think about fragrance.

They discuss the hidden truths behind the perfume industry, their bold departure from corporate life, and the power of reconnecting with ancestral wisdom. From sourcing ingredients directly from local farms to involving family in production, they break down what it means to create products rooted in integrity.

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00:00 – Intro: Why Outta the Cage exists 00:55 – Meet Amanda & Seda of Esas 02:00 – Roy’s first impression of Esas products 03:00 – The fragrance industry’s dirty little secret 05:00 – Amanda’s background in cosmetic chemistry 08:00 – Seda’s grandfather, Turkish remedies & inspiration 11:00 – Lyme disease & health turning points 13:30 – Discovering the Bulletproof Diet & the power of food 15:45 – Shifting perspectives and values 18:00 – The meaning behind the name Esas 20:00 – Turkish baths, hammam rituals, & product naming stories 23:00 – Creating spa-on-the-go products for real life 26:00 – Building a vertically integrated clean fragrance company 30:00 – Parallels with regenerative farming & transparency 33:00 – Chaos of corporate life vs freedom of entrepreneurship 36:00 – Mental/emotional toll of the old job vs new journey 41:00 – The struggle to own your message publicly 44:00 – Big fragrance = few players, massive control 47:00 – The power of family support in starting a business 52:00 – Friendship origin story & business partnership 57:00 – Outro & final thoughts

Key Takeaways
  • Fragrance industry is controlled by only a few companies, with little transparency or consumer awareness.

  • Clean ingredients matter, even in things you apply to your skin like perfume and deodorant.

  • Health crises often catalyze life change—both Amanda and Seda left their careers after chronic illness.

  • Family involvement can be powerful in entrepreneurship, even if they're not experts.

  • Transparency builds trust—Esas sources from local farms and controls every part of their process.

  • You don’t need to do things the way they’ve always been done. Challenging norms leads to innovation.

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