Can you really lead a movement in sparkly boots and a big hat? And more importantly, shouldn’t you?
This week on Participation Trophy, Topher Williams sits down with Charlie Bonner, a fierce advocate for democracy who cut his teeth organizing in Texas and now brings that same energy to his work in the UK. From middle school civics class to testifying at the Capitol, Charlie’s path to leadership is full of grit, humor, and really good stories. He shares what it was like to fight back against voter suppression in 2021, why joy belongs at the center of activism, and how organizing across different political systems still comes down to one thing: figuring out who has the power and how to move them. What does it mean to show up for your community when the odds are stacked? Can voting still feel like an act of power and self-respect in a broken system? And how do you keep your spirit intact while doing hard things?
This episode is part pep talk, part strategy session, and part love letter to the people who keep showing up not because it’s easy or glamorous, but because they believe in something bigger than themselves. Charlie reminds us that leadership is not about being the loudest or the most polished. Leadership is all about staying present, telling the truth, and making room for others to step in. Charlie doesn’t gloss over the burnout or the political absurdity, but he’s clear: joy and community are still some of the strongest tools we’ve got. Who actually holds the power, and what does it take to move them? How do you keep going when the system feels rigged? Charlie and Topher’s conversation won’t tie things up in a bow, but it will leave you thinking differently about what it means to fight for democracy.
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Charlie Bonner and the Power of Fabulousness
01:19 Joy, Creativity, and Humor in Texas Politics
05:55 Advocacy Work in the UK and Comparing Democracy Across Borders
10:23 How a Middle School Civics Class Sparked a Lifetime of Leadership
15:16 Inside the 2021 Texas Fight for Voting Rights
19:15 Community, Perseverance, and the Emotional Core of Organizing
23:15 One Voice, One Room, and Why Voting Still Matters
26:32 Rapid Fire: Charlie’s Take on Texas Favorites
27:38 Participation Trophies and a Baseball Career That Wasn’t
29:04 Final Thoughts and Where to Follow Charlie Online
Connect with Charlie Bonner:
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/charlie-bonner
https://www.instagram.com/thecharliebonner/
Connect with Topher Williams:
https://www.participationtrophypod.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/topher-williams-1a477264/
https://www.instagram.com/tophmcgoph/
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