Jack of All Trades: Leadership Lessons from the Golf Course to HR with John Bernatovicz

This week on the Pathfinders Podcast, Pete Schramm welcomes John Bernatovicz, entrepreneur, author of HR Like a Boss, and founder of Willory, a leading HR and payroll staffing and consulting firm. John’s career kicked off with a dream of professional golf (he even beat Tiger Woods once!). But after realizing he wouldn’t break into the top 1%, he pivoted, first into sales at ADP, then into building a business that merges people, purpose, and performance. Pete and John dig into the Career Map and the Personal Board of Advisors (PBA). John breaks down his PBA, from his golf coach and therapist to his leadership mentor and family circle, sharing how each one brings perspective and keeps him grounded. We talk about accountability, building systems that outlive you, and John’s belief that leadership is a process of showing up consistently, getting better at the basics, and never shortcutting the fundamentals. He also shares how HR Like a Boss went from book to national movement, giving HR professionals the recognition and influence they deserve. This episode is a must-listen for HR pros, founders, or anyone trying to improve just 1% every day.