In this episode of PMFers, we sit down with Paul Berg—founder of Sablier and creator of PRBMath—to explore his journey from teenage Objective-C freelancer to shipping one of the most widely used token streaming protocols on Ethereum. Paul shares how building Sablier in a bear market helped him learn the art of launching fast, getting feedback on crypto Twitter, and evolving from general-purpose primitives to use case–driven products like onchain payroll and vesting.
We dig into Paul’s love of type safety, his obsession with building great products, and how AI is becoming his junior dev (but not vibe coder). We also talk about the Ethereum accelerator debate, cross-border coordination games, rapamycin, sunk cost fallacies, and why building onchain is still open to the obsessed—even if you’re just starting out.
Whether you’re designing smart contracts, struggling to find users, or wondering what you actually need a blockchain for, this episode is packed with insight from someone who’s been there.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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