Ian and I discuss the Greek-Roman god Dionysus-Bacchus. He reads an Orphic poem and then I gloss various stories put together into a narrative in Edith Hamilton’s Mythology. This is a fascinating discussion of a god with opposing features: of gentleness, compassion, and persuasion, but also of wild revelry, frenzy, and terrible violence. We discuss this divinity of the vine, of natural vitality cultivated on a structure, and of rebirth after dissolution, whose product leads to new “creativity” and destruction. He is a god of death and rebirth, and hence, of transformation, and we talk about his spirit’s contribution to the transformation and rebirth of individuals in life and civilizations in their lives.
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About our guest:
Ian Reclusado is currently off exploring the poetic wilds of psychology, neuroscience, and spirituality.
He also offers guidance services for those interested in delving into their own inner wilderness.
You can find his weekly dispatches at www.thekindknife.com or follow him on Instagram: @ian_reclusado
I plan to conduct more interviews with various guests, so please check back later for those.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:12 The Meaning of BenOMTAD
01:01 Format of this Episode
01:25 Recalling the Oracle
02:46 Ian on the Orphic Hymn
04:05 Edith Hamilton’s “Mythology” on Dionysus
14:56 Thoughts on the Murder of Pentheus by the Maenids
18:05 A Possible Earlier Version of Dionysus
23:26 A Dionysian Lineage
26:45 Humanity Born from the Titans, in this Telling
28:20 Gold Leaf Possible Evidence for Dionysus’s Role in Creating Humanity
30:46 This Interesting Side Myth
32:25 Liking the Multiple Local Myths and Thinking of Renewal
34:51 We are an Ultra Social Species
36:04 Multiple Facets of Dionysus and Renewal
37:16 Dionysus’ Rebirth from Semele
39:03 Unwelcome Dionysus
40:17 A Bit on Nietzsche’s Dionysian vs Apollonian
42:53 Why Dionysus May Be the Patron of Theater
44:22 The Transformative Place of Theater in Greek Culture
50:58 How is Dionysus Transformative?
59:42 The Direct Metaphor of Grapes to the Character of Dionysus
01:05:14 Orpheus
01:14:30 Theme: If You Do Not Dissolve in the Transformative Process, You Will Be Destroyed
01:18:50 Balancing the Dionysian and Apollonian in Meditation
01:19:18 How Orpheus Lost His Faith
01:26:18 A Prophetic Warning for Our Civilization
01:28:29 This Balance is Also Our Challenge Every Day
01:37:32 If We Don’t Have Faith, It Could Come and We Won’t Even See It
01:41:25 My Own Story of Ignored Creativity
01:44:03 Our Intention with This Podcast
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