January 28, 2025 • 57 mins
Awakening Wellness: Transforming Through Mindset and Movement
In this episode of Practically Magic, hosted by Courtney Pearl, a Celtic Folk Witch and healer, the focus is on the holistic aspects of healing for health and well-being. The episode begins with a tarot card reading from the Storyteller's Tarot deck and transitions into an engaging conversation with guest Shannon Golladay, a personal wellness and life coach.
Together, they discuss the importance of mindset, belief systems, community, and holistic approaches to achieving personal fitness and wellness goals. Real-life examples and practical advice underline how mental and emotional healing can empower physical transformation.
The episode also explores the significance of grounding, being present, and the interplay between societal influences and personal growth. Upcoming wellness challenges and the importance of supportive communities are highlighted to motivate listeners.
00:00 Welcome to Practically Magick
00:36 Introducing Shannon Golladay
00:55 Pulling a Tarot Card
02:15 The Story of Chiron the Centaur
04:43 Welcoming Shannon to the Show
06:36 Mindset and Wellness
09:23 The Power of Belief Systems
20:30 The Role of Enthusiasm in Fitness
29:05 Community and Support Systems
30:13 Shifting to Positive Thoughts
30:36 Surrounding Yourself with the Right People
31:05 Finding Motivation in Community
32:26 Breaking Negative Patterns
33:31 The Power of Fitness and Connection
39:13 Body and Spirit Harmony
46:48 Influence of Society and Media
48:17 Embracing Authenticity
50:53 Resources and Contact Information
55:45 Upcoming Challenges and Events
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Hello and welcome to Practically Magic.
I am Courtney Pearl, your hosttoday, and I am a Celtic Folk Witch.
I am a healer, emotional andenergy healer, and today we are
going to be talking about healingin the broad aspect of what does
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for your health and body and mind.
And so I have invited a guest todaywho will be joining me shortly.
Shannon Golladay is a friendof mine and also owns and
operates her Golladay fit LLC.
She is a personal wellnesscoach and life coach.
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and certified life coach.
And I'm very excited to have her on.
But before I invite her in, Iwould like to start our episode
today with pulling a card.
And today I'm going to be using theStoryteller's Tarot deck, which I
did get at Rising Moon Minerals.
If you are in South Jordan or near SouthJordan, There is a cute little shop where
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you can buy your crystals, um, and crystalgrids that actually I provided them.
And, uh, they are located right inthe Mountain View Village, not far
from us over there in Riverton.
So, I purchased this deckjust a few weeks ago.
I've been learning about it, trying toget comfortable and familiar with it.
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And Today's card that I havepulled is the King of Scepters.
And I love this deck because each card,um, even in the minor arcana are, uh, are
associated with a story or storytelling.
And so I had to pick it up becausestories are my favorite, my favorite
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way of seeing the world, my favoriteway of understanding the world
and my favorite way of teachingabout the world and about magic.
So, um, what I would like youto know about this card today
for you listening, whenever.
And wherever you happen to be is that thisis a card that shows sure on the centaur.
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It's the sign for Sagittarius in thesky and the constellations and the story
behind him is that he was accidentallypoisoned by a spear from Heracles, and it.
because he's immortal, he was notable to have the respite of death.
He was just in constant and forever pain.
And so Zeus put him in the starsand the heavens to give him a, uh, a
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place to have respite from the painthat he was in from being poisoned.
And yet he.
is a card that representsstrength in the face of something,
an obstacle or adversity.
And so maybe that's something that youneed to hear right now is that taking
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risks and putting yourself out thereis not necessarily a bad thing, even
when you get hurt doing it, even whenit doesn't necessarily play out for
you the way that you anticipated itor wanted it to, and I am hoping that
the efforts that you are making towardssomething in your life right now, that you
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will see that it's worth the effort, it'sworth the pain and suffering that might
be occurring as a result of going for thisparticular thing that you're going for.
You are sort of in warrior mode atthe moment, which means that you're
going to be doing things that feela little bit out of character for
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you, typically, but it feels right.
It feels like the right move for you, andit feels like You're sort of in a place
where you're advocating for yourself andfor others, maybe for the first time,
maybe feeling like I've kept my mouthshut, I've been a people pleaser, I have
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tried to play by the rules, and this ismy moment to say that for my own health
and wellness, for my own The virus wealthand prosperity, I'm going to need to step
into a role that is a little bit morerisky and might even, at times, present
me in a light that is not as flattering,not as people pleasing, if you will.
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Alright, so I hope that thathelps and I am excited to invite
Shannon to our show today.
In this show, Practically Magic,we take things that are real life,
things that Are based and rootedin reality and science in, um, in
education, in the pursuit of happiness.
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And we understand it as in therealm of practically magic that
these things can feel at times.
To be magical and we're learningabout that as if we are students
of the world and I'm excited tohave Shannon on because Shannon and
I have had a lot of conversationsabout what it means to be healing
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and aware of ourselves in practicingmindfulness in practicing, um, healing.
And what that means for our fitnessgoals, what that means for wellness,
what that means for, um, forour own bodies and for our goals
with our bodies, with our health.
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So I'm excited to have Shannon on.
We'll see what our, whereour conversation takes us.
Hello and welcome Shannon.
Thank you for coming on the show.
Hi, Courtney.
So excited to be here.
Thank you for inviting me.
All right.
So let's get into it.
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We did, um, an episode a couple ofweeks ago, uh, practically magic.
So for those of you listening,go back a couple of episodes.
And, um, we did one on, uh,wealth and finance with a finance
coach, Kathy Posse, we both know.
And I.
I, it's going to be a very similarconversation in that whether we're
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talking about wellness or fitness.
We, um, we're just talking about not thehow to do it, or it's kind of the why or
the, um, the personal belief systems thatkeep us blocked or moving towards the
goals that we want to make for ourselves.
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And Shannon has been a formercompetitive gymnast, as well as.
CEO of Golladay Fit LLC and afitness coach and wellness coach.
So tell me a little bit about yourexperience with clients or with working
with people and what you notice aboutwhat keeps them either blocked or
can move them through those blocksinto their meeting their goals.
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Sure.
Thanks, Courtney.
I like to use the example oftwo women that I worked with.
I won't use their names, but I'll usejust, you know, fake names for now.
So there was Sue and there was Jill.
And Sue and Jill both had a similargoal of losing over 100 pounds.
And so Sue and Jill both came to me.
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They, um, I coached them the same way.
I gave them the same tools and Suelost 134 pounds and Jill ended up
back in the hospital, um, worseoff than she was when she started.
And so I was shocked because,you know, two people with similar
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goals, two women and similar toolsand the same coach, but different,
very drastically different results.
And so what was thedifference between those two?
Well, um, mindset was huge.
Um, so believing that it waspossible and getting rid of those
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beliefs in their, in their, youknow, in their way, in their path.
Um, also having a really strongwhy and a desire to change.
Um, I think that was huge.
Um, one wanted to have more childrenand she wanted to do anything it
took to get in shape, get healthyagain, to have more children.
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Um, the other one, you know, justsaid she wanted to get healthy.
It was more of a vague goal.
It wasn't as specific.
It wasn't as motivating.
And, you know, so one justtook off and saw results.
I mean, it took about 18 monthsto get, to lose over 134 pounds.
I'm not into fast.
Fast weight loss.
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Um, but it was just, it blew mymind that these two had very similar
goals, same tools, same coach, andjust ended in very different places.
Yeah, and it's interestingbecause we've kind of had
conversations about this before.
Um, where, when I was going tothe Institute of Healing Arts and
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we're learning about energy workand we're learning about these
belief systems that typicallystarted when you were very young.
I mean there's subconscious beliefsor subconscious energy, emotional
energy that are being held in the body.
Um, but I heard stories ofpeople that were like, I am
doing all the right things.
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Um, you know, women who had learned thesehabits of like eating right and, um,
and getting on a pretty good exerciseroutine and doing what it took and,
and even cutting certain things outof their diet that were more sugar and
processed foods and things like that.
Um, but they weren't cutting the weight.
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come off like they expected or maybeit did at first, but they would get
stuck and they would, it's just,it was hard for them to understand.
But once they started doing like emotionalhealing work, it was whatever belief
systems the body was holding onto thatwas maybe holding that weight for a
reason that the body thought it neededto sometimes for protection or for You
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know, whatever, whatever trauma mayhave been linked to that belief system.
And it wasn't until they were able toidentify that and start to like work on
the healing work there that they were ableto see that, like that last puzzle piece
fall into place for their goals, right.
Their fitness goals.
So, yeah, I think that that beliefsystems like are really important.
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And, um, we've had clients whereUm, you and I both like know people
that some of the the block that theyhave about being able to go towards.
Okay, I know what I need to do.
I'm being taught the right tools.
I'm being taught the right habits,but just can't seem to get myself to
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wake up in the morning and do thosethings because there's an Somewhere
deep down an inherent belief oflike I don't deserve to get healthy.
I don't deserve.
Um, and for those listening who, um,have been listening to my previous
episode on alchemy, I, um, I had aguest and we talked a lot about shame.
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And she mentioned shame as not an emotion,which is the first time I'd heard that
kind of explained that way, but thatwhen things are seen through a lens
of shame, there's just this inherentbelief of like, I'm not worthy of this.
I'm not worthy of change.
I'm not worthy of, um, This care thatI'm giving my body, you probably have
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seen that in your experience in coaching.
Oh, oh, absolutely.
And even talking to clients, you know,I'll, I'll have a session with them and
I'll, you know, ask about their week.
And I can tell when someone's going tobe successful, if they're starting off
with, I did this wrong, I did this wrong,I did this wrong, I did this wrong.
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And then I'm like, okay, we're notgoing to see success if we're, if we're
constantly shaming ourselves and tellingus, you know, we're not good enough.
We, um, we did this wrong.
We did this wrong.
Like.
We can't build upon that.
And so I like to ask my clients, youknow, what did you do well this week?
What was your success this week?
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And sometimes people can'teven think of one thing.
And so, but that just pillsback the layers because I
want to know where they're at.
Like if they are shaming themselvesand, and even like as women, like
if we're looking in the mirror,we wake up, um, I can't remember
the statistic, but it was, it was.
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Shocking how many negative thoughts gothrough our minds from like the first
hour we wake up like we wake up Welook in the mirror brushing our teeth.
Oh, you look so terrible.
Oh, you're so fat.
Oh, you're so ugly Youput it on your jeans.
Oh my gosh You look like allthese negative thoughts are going
through our mind like first thingin the morning and how can we?
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um Nourish and grow and seesuccess when we are constantly
putting in the negativity.
It's the same thing, you know, like witha plant, they say, you know, like if
you're speaking to a plant negativelyand expecting it to bloom and grow,
how, how, how can we expect ourselves togrow and flourish if we are constantly
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beating ourselves down because, okay,you start your day off like that.
And then maybe you'retrying to eat healthy.
Maybe you're halfway doing a workout.
But deep down, you're just sayingyou're not good enough, you're not
worth it, and it's not gonna work.
You're not going to see results.
And so I just, I just can tell a bigdifference when someone, even working
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with you, Courtney, I know we've workedtogether on your health and fitness
goals, and I mean, you actually wonone of our contests or what were one
of the winners in one of our contests.
And I just talking to you, Icould tell you have done the
work and I could tell like.
You were just seeing, you know, amazingresults because you were speaking to
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yourself kindly and, you know, youhad done that foundation work, and
so then the rest, you just took off.
Yeah, and I can tell you, thathasn't always been the case for me.
Um, you know, a lot of it is like,that's why the work that you do, the
work that I do, even the work that Kathydoes in the financial coaching aspect,
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it's all so interconnected and work sowell together because we're all helping
achieve these little bits and piecesabout ourselves that help create like.
Awareness of where we came from.
And I don't know if you maybe find this,but I would be willing to bet that a lot
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of the clients that do speak negativelyabout themselves or wake up in the
morning and, or, or start their sessionwith you going, well, I, I didn't eat.
Well, I did this thing, you know,and they start shaming themselves.
I would be willing to bet orask them, how did your parents.
motivate you?
How did your parents speakto you when you were young?
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Did they, did they think thatshaming you or saying all the
things you did wrong, criticizingyou was the way to motivate you?
Was the way to say, this ishow you need to wake up and
make, you know, do your day.
You didn't make your bed.
You didn't do this.
You didn't do that.
And, you know, parents are parents.
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They're doing their best.
I'm not here to shame parents.
Like I've been there, totally doneit to my son, sons, all of them.
I've done it to all.
I've, I've done all thewrong things as well.
We've all done it.
So I'm not here to shame that, butI'm wondering is, you know, a lot of
times those kind of ways we speak toourselves, it comes from a subconscious
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belief that we've held for a very longtime, usually in early childhood, where
we believe this lie That that shamingwill make us change our behavior that
will be like, I, I didn't eat well.
I didn't exercise.
I didn't get up and dothe things I wanted to do.
And now I'm thinking, bad me bad me.
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I didn't do the right things,because you think that that's
going to make a difference.
I've been guilty of it.
Just as much or more than anyone.
I mean, really, we all have.
Yeah, we all have and but I think it'sit's becoming aware of what's going
on because I think a lot of peoplearen't even aware of the thoughts.
They are just doing they're so actiondriven, and they're trying trying trying
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and going through the cycle of on off onoff on off you know I hear this so much.
I fell off the wagon, I fell off thewagon, I need to get back on the wagon.
And it's like, if we'reon off on off on off.
Let's, let's look at the beliefs behindit, because if we believe that we have
to be on a diet, we have to be on some,you know, then it's not a lifestyle,
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it's not a healthy lifestyle, and it'sthe subconscious belief system behind
that we will constantly be on a rollercoaster if we don't fix those beliefs.
Yeah, and I, I, I'm guilty ofdoing, um, Candida cleanse, uh,
which has been great for my body.
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The times that I've done it, I reallyneeded to do it, but it's pretty strict.
It's like you go off of almosteverything and you completely, you
know, you reintroduce things slowlyinto your diet and it's a great reset.
I've done it before.
I don't recommend it unless you, uh, havetalked to a doctor or anything like that.
So I'm just going to put that out there.
Yeah.
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But I have needed that from time to time.
And so I thought going into that fitnesschallenge that I did in September, which
yeah, I, I went into it thinking, okay,I'll just do what has worked for me in
the past, which is like going on a cleanseand doing kind of something like that.
But I realized what worked better.
In that particular instance was to followmore of what you were telling me to do,
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the nutrition plans and just saying, Hey,you don't have to cut everything out.
You just need to be mindful aboutwhat you're eating or what times
of day or, um, and I, and I didgo into it saying, I usually lose
some weight, but I usually plateau.
Like I don't, I'll lose a bunch atthe beginning cause I changed my
habits and then I'll just not lose asingle pound for the rest of the time.
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And, um, And you were a greatcoach because you said, okay,
here's some things you need to do.
Um, one of the things you told me wasdo you tend to eat the same things
every day and, and get in a rut,you know, and I am totally that way.
I'm like, these are the things Iknow I can eat and I like to eat.
So I'll just stick with that.
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Like it'll just be like super dinnerevery night and this breakfast every
morning and I'll just stick with that.
And I'll just, I'll just make that my dietfor the rest of the, for the whole month.
And no wonder I plateaued, right?
I was like.
Yeah, I lost some weight in thebeginning because I was cutting out
more of the mindless snacking that I hadbeen doing and, and then I plateaued.
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I was like, and then I was like, you knowwhat, I actually do need to change it up.
I need to try different things.
I need to eat different things.
I need to, um, you know, make a meal planand like plan out what I'm going to eat,
put a little more effort into it, I guessa little bit more energy and effort.
And it totally worked.
And then I saw more like changeshappening with my body and,
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um, and it felt really great.
And I would say the, the difference maybein what I've done in the past or what
maybe some of some other people do andwhat worked for me this time, the key
word I keep coming back to is enthusiasm.
Yeah, because like thatmindset you're talking about.
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I wouldn't have had that mindset or itwould have been really hard for me to
have that mindset if I didn't have like.
When I lose this extra weight, I wantto lose and get my fitness goals going.
Um, when my body transforms in away I can noticeably see it, this
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is how excited I feel about that.
Like, and keeping that enthusiasmlasted me the whole month.
That's awesome.
And there wasn't, it's not likeI was like perfect and like.
I mean, there were days when I woke upand I was like, snacky, snacky snack.
And then I was like, okay, like Itotally, totally went back to some old
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habits that I was doing before thatI'm trying to change, but you have such
a great way of helping your clients.
You're the people that you're coaching.
You're like, that's not the end.
Of your journey, you know, thatwas one moment of weakness or
whatever you want to call it.
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I don't even know if you would callit weakness, but just that was one
moment of a poor choice for your body.
That doesn't mean you're done.
And you're, you're, you'relike the next moment after that
is like a new, fresh start.
You just go, okay, now whatis another healthy choice?
Absolutely.
And I love how you explained thatwith the enthusiasm, enthusiasm that
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you will get to your destination.
You will reach your goal.
Um, because that is a mindset shift.
If you are thinking,I'll never reach my goal.
This won't work for me.
Um, you know, I think it's Henry Fordsays, you know, whatever, if we think
we can, we can, if we think we can't, wecan't and that's absolutely so if you have
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enthusiasm towards where you're going.
Versus, um, disappointmentand discouragement.
I mean, I think feelings and emotionsare just as powerful as thoughts.
So if we have these feelingsand emotions of positivity
and excitement and enthusiasm,absolutely you're gonna take off.
But if you're, like, discouraged and,you know, shame and guilt and, you
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know, we're gonna go the other way.
So I love how you explained thatwith the emotion and the feeling.
Behind the thought process, because that'show you get results and see success.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Like thought and emotion are all energy.
It's all, you know, the, theenergy moves with our intention.
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So if we're intention, if our intention orthought energy is more, um, low vibration
where it's like, I'm just a lazy, nogood, you know, uh, I'm never going to
be athletic and never going to be fit.
I'm never going to lose this extra weightthat I want to lose, or I'm never going
to look a certain way that I want to look.
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Um, and you know, there are differentaspects of that where it's like our body
type needs to be taken into consideration.
Our, our hormone levels are all of theseother things that work and operate.
So having like, you know, this, this ideain my head that I was going to become.
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I don't know.
I'm trying to think of a really,really super thin actress or somebody
that like would be emulated by that.
I, you know, if I think that's mygoal or that's what I'm looking
to do, um, then yeah, I'm probablygoing to be pretty discouraged.
My body type just isn't that,and that's okay, but it's also
kind of a balance of like, I lovemyself and I love where I'm at.
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And I love every step of thisand every step of this journey.
While also being like, this is,this is where I would like to be
and this is how I'd like to feel.
I can't even say that my physicalbody changed all that much.
I mean, I took before and after pictureslike we do in the challenge, but I, you
know, I looked at them and I was like,okay, yeah, I can kind of see where maybe,
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you know, there was some, some changes.
But honestly, it was so muchmore about how I felt than it was
seeing noticeable changes, truly.
Oh, absolutely.
And, and that's it, you know,thinking of what your goal is.
I mean, I've, I've been on my, you know,wellness journey for almost 15 years.
It'll be 15 years in December.
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And, you know, there's beenups and downs along the way.
Um, but, but appreciatingour body and loving our body.
Through the journey is really important.
I mean, you and I have both have havechildren and you had twins, you know
so, you know being being grateful forour bodies ability to have children to
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To carry ourselves to be able to run towalk to exit to do all the things because
there's so many people that aren't able Todo the things that we've been able to do
and so I think if we come from a place ofgratitude For where we are at now as well.
That's important.
We want to see progress.
We want to change but having thatgratitude Um another story of a client
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I went to her house and she had apicture of herself on her fridge
Of her at her worst And so she waslooking at that every day and she was
thinking, I don't want to be like that.
And then I turned over the picture.
She had a picture of her beston the front and then a picture
of her worst on the back.
And I said, how can this be motivated?
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Like how can this be motivating to you?
I'm like, Because I mean, that was cool.
She had a picture on theother side of her best.
I'm like, we need to flip thisover and focus on you at your best.
And, and like you say, it's notnecessarily a specific weight, because
as we age, you know, I'm in my 40s.
And as we go into our different ages,of course, our body goes through
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different changes and things like that.
But How do we want to feel?
Like, do we want to have energy?
Do we want to feel happy?
Do you want to be able to run andhike and, you know, do the things?
Um, you know, that's, that'swhere I'm measuring success.
Like, yeah, sure.
The weight loss or losing inchesor fitting into our pants.
Those are like after awesome effects.
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Um, but if we're focusing on.
I feel awesome.
I feel amazing.
You know, I think that's evenmore Valuable because and
just one other side note.
I was just going to share I helped anotherclient Her goal was to lose over 20 pounds
and get flat abs after having a babySo so we did that she lost the weight.
She lost over 20 pounds.
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She got flat abs And shewas miserable afterwards.
And I was like, we reached the goal!
Oh, and we ran, we ran a half marathon.
That was another, like, someday goal.
Because I'm all about, let's, let's do it.
Yeah, someday, check, check, check, check.
She was miserable, and I was like,We did it, you know, and, but,
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but she still found, she stillfound things wrong with herself.
She still was like, but this, and this,and this, and this, and I'm like, oh
my gosh, that goes back to the beliefs.
Like, we have to love our bodies whereverwe're at, and because we'll never be happy
when, if, if we're not happy now, so.
Yes, and that's where that mindsetcomes in, that's so important, of
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like, Is your mindset that you needto shame yourself or that you need to
find flaws or that you need to find,you know, where did that life start?
That's something that my integratedprocessing technique, the emotional
processing I do with people, whetherit's their financial goals, their
personal relationship goals, theirfitness goals, it doesn't matter.
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And that's why it's hardfor me to market it.
We've talked about that beforewhere I'm like, it's hard
for me to focus on one thing.
Cause I'm like, but theemotional processing work is
for whatever blocks people have.
It's about finding.
Where's the lie that started way backwhen, you know, I would ask that client
who was like, she didn't, she achievedthe goals, but she still wasn't happy with
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herself or happy with what she'd achieved.
But it's like, where's the lie?
Where did the lie start that you hadto be so down on yourself or that you
had, or that it would require you tobe, or look a certain way for you to be
happy that you have to wait until that.
Right.
That destination was finally reached.
And then you could be gratefulor happy with yourself.
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And, and that's where I come in.
That's where I work with clientsis where does that come in?
And then what I was going to saytoo, is the community aspect.
We wanted to talk aboutlike, where does that fit in?
Because you have coaching that you dowith, with a group in helping people.
And it's like, who are yousurrounding yourself with that?
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Um, because women do tend to connector bond by being down on themselves.
Do you find that sometimesit's kind of a cultural thing?
Oh, absolutely.
Complaining and, you know,talking about what's going wrong
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is a really easy connector.
Um, I mean, even so my, you know, Ihave a degree in public relations and,
and that's what sells in the media.
Um, shocking the worst, like, you know,if you're looking at a headline, it's not
going to say something super positive.
Like you're going to getsomething negative, um, because it
connects people, people, people,um, bond with the negativity.
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And so if you, you know, I'vegone around women who are
like, Oh yeah, I'm overweight.
I'm tired.
I'm out of energy.
Oh, me too.
Me too.
Oh yeah.
That's normal.
Oh, that's how it is.
And then they just kindof stay stuck there.
And I'm like, Okay, like that's notlet's not make that normal and you
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know, but it is a conscious I thinkit's a very conscious effort to shift
our thoughts to the positive, becauselike you say, it's just easy to bond
and connect over here on the negative.
So, um, so if you who you're surroundingaround yourself really makes a difference.
Like if you are surrounding yourselfwith people who are like, Yeah, it's
okay to be 20 pounds overweight.
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Yeah.
It's okay to just, you know,just get bigger pants sizes.
Yeah.
It's okay to just splurgeand eat whatever you want.
And, and I'm not, you know, like I justsay, this is not about shaming, but for
me, it's about health and longevity.
And I want to feel and look my best,like all the way to a hundred, you know?
And so I want to be withthose people that are like.
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Yeah, I want to hike.
Yeah, I want to run a race.
Yeah, I want it.
Let's go running today.
Sure, I can go right now.
Let's, you know, I know youand I went running one time and
it's like, yeah, let's go today.
Sure.
Let's do it.
You know, like, um, I knowit was super sad that the
weather started changing right.
As I got back into running forthe first time in 15 years.
And I was like, I'm actuallyenjoying running again.
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And then it was like, uh, maybethis was the wrong season to start.
That was my fault, butI think it was great.
And.
That time that we went runningaround the lake here, we live in,
um, the daybreak area and the lakeis a good, like three miles or so.
Um, if you do the whole lake, I don'tthink I'd ever run the entire lake or
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walked the entire lake all the way around.
And it really pushed me.
I was like, my body is capableof more than I realized.
And it wasn't that it was easy,but it wasn't impossible either.
So community, like doing things likethat together, like what can, what
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magic can happen when you're motivatedto be like, we're going to run together
this whole, you know, much longer thanI normally do or pushing ourselves.
Yeah.
And what I found in our conversationsand talking with you is that Um,
I don't know if anyone's ever seenyou'll know the scene from Mean Girls,
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uh, where she's not quite familiarwith the dynamic of American girls
and how they talk to each other.
And she's kind of an outsider but shenotices she's noticing that they're all
talking about their bodies and they'relike, Oh my gosh my thighs are too
big and oh my, you know, I wish I had.
Thicker lips and they'repicking out all these things.
And she's the narrator.
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She's like, I'm realizing thatthis is how girls connect.
They bond with each otherand they all pick each other.
You know, they're themselves apart.
And they look at her,like, it's your turn.
And it's almost like, if you don'tdo it, you're full of yourself.
You're, you're, um, you're too cocky.
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Right.
And I wondered if.
If we step out of those patterns andwe don't connect in those ways, would
we have things to connect about?
Would we be able to have, uh,conversations with friends?
And you and I, I found it reallyeasy to talk about things we'd
like to do or things that are like,I'd love to get back into running.
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I love running.
And We did have things to talkabout and things to connect over,
which was like, what are our goals?
What do we want to do?
I want to, I want to do a hike.
I want to do, you know, let'smake plans to do, to do this hike
before the weather gets too cold.
And we did that.
So it just proves that thereis opportunities to have those.
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Same connections, the same, youknow, being able to bond and like
create friendship over things thatare not just picking ourselves apart.
And uh, and I do like to gatherwomen together and have moments
where we can talk about things thatare real and vulnerable and hard.
I mean, we, we don't want to act likeour lives are so great and perfect that
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we can Disconnect for ourselves fromother people, but being able to say like.
Yeah, I've really been struggling lately,um, to eat well and then have a friend
or somebody say, Oh, that's really hard.
I understand.
I've totally been there.
Um, what can I do?
What can I do to help?
Or, you know, what, what do you need?
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And that can be a kind of differentconversation than just the, I'm going to
pick myself apart, I'm going to complain.
Um, you know, it's a different kindof dynamic, if that makes sense.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, there's, there's a difference,um, between, um, You know, like,
all coming together, complaining,and staying stuck there, and
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going home, and feeling miserable.
Versus, you know, versus leaning on eachother, because I think, you know, we're
here to support and encourage each other.
And so, it's not about not beingreal, because I've, I've talked
about this before, you know.
Um, with other people, like, you know,it's not about being fake positive, it's
not about being like, oh, my life isperfect, it's being about, here's where
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I'm at, here's where I am, and this ishard, and here's where I want to go.
Um, and so let's acknowledge the hard.
Let's let's comfort each other,support each other, but then let's
help us rise above and get to a betterplace and not and not stay stuck
there because it's okay to be here.
But I just think that there's powerin rising above and overcoming the
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obstacles, because that's where the magichappens is where we can rise above even.
You know, I just love inspiringstories of people who are like,
I went through this and this andthis, this was hard, hard, hard.
But then I got here and howdid they get from here to here?
It's because of their mindset of,okay, I'm here, but I want to go here.
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And how can I get there?
And that's just, uh, it'san amazing conversation.
Absolutely.
It's kind of like, we need the validation.
We need the person to that,that can hold space for us in
the hard, but that's where.
Agreeing as a community that that'snot the space we're going to stay in as
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just the it's hard, um, but the like,encouraging and motivating and, um,
yeah, holding space for each other.
So yeah, absolutely.
That's a great aspect of community,whether it's just groups of women
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supporting each other or, um, Youknow, and it doesn't have to be women.
I say women because this is the, the,the spaces where you're typically in or,
um, facilitating in that wellness aspect.
But, uh, I remember you saying once inyour marketing, being able to market
just, you know, wellness to moms whoare trying to get back in shape after
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having a baby or things like that.
And then there were dads reachingout to you and being like, can I?
Yeah.
Do this too.
We're not excluding anybody orany demographic, but yeah, it is.
It's typically that sort of communitythat women, um, tend to create for
themselves is like, you can choose whatyour community is and you can choose
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how to participate in that community.
So be intentional about that.
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I also think, you know, it'simportant to know our goals and know
what we're looking to accomplish.
I know a lot of times Wedon't write down goal.
I hear people make New Year's resolutionsin January and they've forgotten them
by February, March, you know, and so,so knowing where you're going, and then
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knowing who has accomplished that goalalready, and then surround yourself with
those people that you want to go there,you know, um, It's not to say, like, if
you're around people who are complaining,and, you know, they're your family, or
you love them, like, you don't have to,like, get them out of your life, like,
I would just not give power to thoseemotions, like, um, okay, you know,
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I'm going to support and encourage thisperson, maybe we're going in different
directions, but I'm still going to loveand support them, but then I'm going to
surround myself over here with peoplewho are going where I want to go.
And so I think that's really importantto acknowledge because sometimes people
are like, Oh, now I need to cut people.
No, no, you don't need toget anyone out of your life.
You know, but just don't give don'tgive power to those emotions and
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don't let those pull you down.
Because, you know, I don't know.
I just always say we haveone shot at this life.
And how do we want to do it?
You know, like, like, wedon't have to stay set.
Like, we can accomplish whatever we want.
The sky's the limit.
And so we, we have to have thosebeliefs and the people around
us, and then we can skyrocket.
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Yeah.
And it's, it's.
It's good that you said, like, we havethis one life, so we have this body and
I think some of it in the spiritual oremotional aspect of wellness for me,
realizing even just recently realizingthat I do have some body dysmorphia.
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I do have some, uh, almost as if my spiritand body are at war with each other.
And for me.
Engaging with fitness or engagingwith anything because I'm not
an athletic type of person.
I was one of those kind of people whoI, I did cross country because you
didn't have to try out and I didn'tactually have to be good at it.
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And that was the most athletic I ever got.
I, they would ask me to be onvolleyball teams and I stood there
and I would just wave my hand in theair and I'd be like, I'm just a body
so that we don't have to forfeit.
That's it.
I have no, I'm not diving for the ball.
This is not my jam, but I do realizethat the more I engage with something
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physical when I'm, you know, stretchingor, uh, you know, doing some yoga
or something like that, it makesmy spirit and body connect more.
They're not as much at war with each otheras I think they've been my whole life.
Like, and I'm just realizingthat recently, like I have
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been at war with my body.
And what happens to a body whenyou're at war with it your whole life,
your body, your mind and your spiritare like, this body is not right.
It can't do what I needit to do or whatever.
The body is going to get sick.
I mean, that's just the way thatenergy is going to present itself.
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And so, you know, you can't be surprisedwhen your body starts to reject you.
If you, you've been rejectingyour body your whole life.
So I got to a place where I waslike, listen, I'm getting older.
My body is going to need to be takencare of more so than ever before.
I don't have youth on my side.
So I'm going to want to engage withmy body in ways that not only nurture
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it and take care of it and feedit, but also love it in a way that
I've probably not been doing well.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I would just also add, I thinkthat society, um, plays a big part
into that conflict because likethere's these societal norms of how we
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should look like and how we should be.
And, you know, there's so much pressure.
And so I think that plays a big partinto this battle because if we are
rejecting our body because of, youknow, what we've heard or what so and
so said or this or that or, you know,I think that that's hard to have that
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peace with our body and our spirit.
And so, you know, if anything,if we reject, we reject all that.
And come to peace with our body.
And, and like you say, withfitness, I, I love fitness.
I'm super passionate about fitness.
And I feel like fitness is like,it pops you into the present.
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Like, you know, I worked with a therapistonce, she's like, just do 10 jumping.
Like if you're feeling likeyour, your mind is all over the
place, just do jumping jacks andjust even that act of motion.
Get your body and connect andspirit connected together.
And so when you are doing fitness, yourbody and fit and spirit are more connected
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because you are in the present physicallyand mentally, because you, you're not just
sitting there and getting sidetracked.
You're moving.
You have to figure it.
You like, you'll fall all overthe place, you know, if you're not
consciously there and that was reallypowerful to me when, um, when she
said, cause it was during COVID and,um, I was doing these challenges to
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like get people out of their house.
So I'm like, even just stand on yourporch and do 10 jumping jacks and then
come back and people were feeling better.
Just do, I was justtelling him to do that.
And then when she saidthat to me, I'm like.
That that's why that's why it snapsyour body and your spirit together, and
then you're able to connect more so.
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Oh my gosh, and I just realized thatthat's, that's a perfect correlation with
the Energy healing work or with spiritualwork because we do tend to, you know,
psychologists call it disassociating,but it's like you almost disassociate
or leave your body and a lot of peoplewho have handled trauma or have post
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traumatic stress or, um, and, and bythe way, it doesn't even have to be big
trauma, like abuse in your childhoodor earlier in your life, but anything
that, that causes us to disassociate.
As a coping mechanism, right?
Something that makes us go, I'm justgoing to leave my body for a little
bit because it's easier to not have todeal with the pain of having a body or
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experiencing what's in the present moment.
We all do it.
We all have a tendency to be like,well, I'm just going to step out.
Right.
And we tend to do thatthrough our crown chakra.
So we would like stepout of our body, right?
Our spirit or our mind.
Mentally steps out, but exercise thengrounds us back to our root chakra,
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which is like, like you're saying, beingpresent in the body, being aware of our
physical self and how we're connectedto the earth in this moment in time.
So for people who like to dogrounding exercises, go out into the.
you know, they step on their barefeet on the earth and just go, okay,
I'm going to breathe into my body.
I'm going to root myself.
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And having balanced chakras means thatyou're both grounded and present and
aware, even if it means experiencingpain or emotions that you maybe Would
normally avoid, but being able to bepresent in the moment and then also
being able to be connected spirituallyto your higher power or to your soul or
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to the spirit world, like having bothin balance with each other means being
a fully, you know, balanced person.
Okay, so.
I think it, I find it fascinatingthat you're, you're mentioning that
we're talking about grounding orbeing present and we're both wearing
red today, which I just want topoint out was totally unplanned.
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But that is the chakra color is thered so we're both like on the same
page here where we're talking aboutlike grounding being present and
being able to be fully in our body.
Right.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, there's just so much to it.
And, um, it's pretty amazing, like, as youknow, as we learn more about these things.
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And even, even this morning, I mean, thisis a side note, but I was listening to
this podcast about like how the moon andI know you've done some moon work, you
know, how the moon affects our energy.
And, and, you know, even thatit's just like, wow, like, there's
just there's so much more to it.
Yeah.
Yes, for sure.
And my friend Cambria, who does theastrology, she can tell you all the
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things I don't know, but like theplanets, the alignment, the like,
what we're in right now, Mer, Mercuryis entering retrograde right now.
So things are going to be a littlebit affected by that, but we cannot
live our lives as if we are completelydisconnected from all the things that
infiltrator energy and that affect us.
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Um, I mean, and that brings us backto your point about, um, society
and the influence of the media.
I'm a 90s girl.
I, I definitely cannot say I was notinfluenced by the Tara Reid era of
like ultra ultra thin being the ideal.
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And I, I wish I can say I'm evolved enoughto say I don't want to be that thin.
But I do.
It's something I battle every day.
I look at myself and Igo, I wish I were a twig.
I wish there was no fat orjiggle or anything on me.
I'm just as susceptible to it.
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And so it's, uh, you know, for thoseof you listening who want to go to
another throwback episode, the episodethat I do on codependency, it's really
not all that different is that we canbe We can be codependent to of the
influence of other people and societyand, you know, magazines and images
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and what we see on TV, like tellingus, this is how it's supposed to be.
This is how you're supposed to look.
This is how you're supposed to feel.
And, and being able to separate ourselvesfrom that and say, that's not my energy.
That's not what I need to hold.
That's someone else'swork that they're doing.
I am just needing to be aware ofmyself and my journey and what.
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to do.
Right.
Absolutely.
And, and when we can come to aplace of, um, This is who I am and
I love who I am and I'm continuing,like, this is where I'm at now.
And this is where I want to go and I'mcontinuing to learn and grow and progress.
Um, but like you say,disconnecting yourself from
outside influences or sources.
This sh you should be like this initially.
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Because I've had that you know likethe voices in your head like you
should be like at least for me likeyou should be Less sensitive you should
be Like, I'm very passionate and I'mvery, you know, I can get into it.
And it's like, You know, like youshould, you should, should, should.
It's like, goodbye, stopshoulding on yourself.
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That's what I always say to people.
I'm like, stop shoulding on yourselfand stop shoulding on others.
Like, um, I almost feel like theword should, should be removed
from our vocabulary so that we'renot always going should, should,
should this, that, or whatever.
Yeah.
And that can have such an impacton so many aspects of our lives,
fitness, health, all of it.
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Absolutely.
Yeah.
Well, and, um, I think when you get tothat place of You know, this is where
i'm at and this is where I want to goUm, then you truly see progress and you
can find true happiness and you can begrounded in who you are and where you
want to be um in your life and um I thinkthat's the most most fulfilling because
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then you're not People pleasing or youknow trying to be a certain i've done
that where it's like you're trying to bethis for these people They're trying to
be this and and it's so exhausting andit's just like like break Away, you know.
Yep.
Yep.
And I think we're moving into an era,whether it's cosmically or energetically,
or we're shifting into an energy that,um, Cambria Davis Mukai community, she
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would say it's It's because Pluto justentered Aquarius, and it's going to be
in Aquarius for a long amount of time.
And what that means is we're breakingdown boundaries and systems, and we
are opening things up to being moreauthentic, being more in a space of what,
what do I need and what works for me.
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So.
It's time to shed all that and shedall the like expectations and I'm here
to be what everybody else needs meto be and just be who is the best me.
Aligned with who I wantto be that I can be
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all right with that.
I'm going to let you, uh, tell us inour audience where they can find you
if they want to learn more or have,uh, access to what you have to offer.
Thanks, Courtney.
Um, before I say that, I just,I hope my internet's okay.
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It went a little.
Yeah, we're being a littleglitchy, but that's okay.
We'll make it work.
But I just, uh, Okay.
Well, um, I wanted tosay how amazing you are
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for the work that you do, Courtney,because I think that it is so
important to, um, to dive deep intoour past beliefs, dive deep into our
subconscious and, and look at wherewe came from and how that's shining.
In, in the now, right now, becausea lot of times we're walking through
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life, and we're, we're just carryingall this stuff on our backs, and we
don't realize where it came from,or, you know, that it's even there.
Yeah.
So I love the work that you do because,um, like you say that this shows up in
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our lives in so many in our financesin our marriages and being a parent.
And so to dig back there andpull it to the front and then
to be able to release it.
It's very powerful.
So I, I recommend the work thatyou're doing and thank you for that.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
I love the work that I do too.
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Yeah, you're welcome.
Um, so, so yeah, thankyou for having me today.
I've loved being here.
And so you can find meonline on Instagram.
Um, it's your Y O U R underunderscore personal cheerleader.
So Y O U R underscore personalunderscore cheerleader.
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Um, so Your Personal Cheerleader,um, I, I believe that I am a
personal cheerleader to cheer, um,people on in their wellness goals.
Um, I also have a free PDF thatis, um, yourwellnesscheckin.
com, so yourwellnesscheckin.
And it links to a free Facebookgroup where I have weekly
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challenges, weekly weekends.
And challenges to help us stayon track during the weekend and
make our weekend a strong end.
Um, so that's a reallygood place to start.
You can join my monthly
check in challenge.
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That's part of my personal coachingprogram, where you're going to get all
the tools, the workouts, the nutrition.
You can start with the free.
And check out your, um,your, um, wellness check in.
com.
Perfect.
And I always do post all of the resourcesand links to my guests on my website.
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So go to prism healing.
com to find me.
My website and my services and thenyou will see a link to my blog at
the top and my blog is just a, um,a recap and summary of every episode
that I have done on Practically Magic.
And I always post the resources, thelinks to listen and watch the episode.
(54:37):
Um, and so if you're listening and you'relike, I want more of this, I want to know
where else I can find more informationabout this, I will post as much
information as I can there and update it.
If new information happens to come up.
So go there first.
And then you can alwaysfind me on social media too.
Prism healing, um, Instagram prismunderscore healing, um, Facebook,
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Courtney pearls, prism healing,um, tick tock at prison healing.
Uh, just look up prison healing.
I'm sure I'll come up insome aspect or another.
Um, and I will always, youknow, do a good throwback.
Uh, you'll see some clips.
From this episode so that you'll knowwhen Shannon is on and, um, yeah,
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we'll do a lot of, uh, cross promotingfor each other to make sure that
you get access to all of the thingsthat we've mentioned here today.
All right.
Do you have anything elsethat you want to share?
Any events or special thingsthat are coming up for you?
All
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right.
So I want to think so at the beginningof December, every first month.
Every
first Monday of the month, Ihave a new challenge coming up.
So the, in December, we're doing adance and healthy dessert challenge.
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So that's going to be really fun.
And then we're kicking off the newyear with a New Year's challenge.
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
And I love treats and I love dancing.
So I'm excited for December.
That's perfect.
I can't wait for that.
Yeah.
Shannon is very good at postingand, uh, and keeping up with all
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of the people that she's coaching.
I am getting messages more so than I caneven respond to, but it's still always
helpful to have those reminders, thetext messages and the Facebook group.
And I'm like, Oh yeah, I need to do thisor I need to keep on track with that.
So, uh, I just got to get, getback into my routine so I can keep
engaging with those posts, but thankyou so much Shannon, and I would
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like to thank our sponsors, Ridethe Wave Media is our producer.
And if you are interested in sponsoringthe show or being mentioned on the show
as a special thing, you can get ahold ofme and we will make sure we highlight you.
So, thank you again, and domagic, witches and wizards.
Hello and welcome to Practically Magic.
I am Courtney Pearl, your hosttoday, and I am a Celtic Folk Witch.
I am a healer, emotional andenergy healer, and today we are
going to be talking about healingin the broad aspect of what does
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for your health and body and mind.
And so I have invited a guest todaywho will be joining me shortly.
Shannon Golladay is a friendof mine and also owns and
operates her Golladay fit LLC.
She is a personal wellnesscoach and life coach.
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and certified life coach.
And I'm very excited to have her on.
But before I invite her in, Iwould like to start our episode
today with pulling a card.
And today I'm going to be using theStoryteller's Tarot deck, which I
did get at Rising Moon Minerals.
If you are in South Jordan or near SouthJordan, There is a cute little shop where
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you can buy your crystals, um, and crystalgrids that actually I provided them.
And, uh, they are located right inthe Mountain View Village, not far
from us over there in Riverton.
So, I purchased this deckjust a few weeks ago.
I've been learning about it, trying toget comfortable and familiar with it.
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And Today's card that I havepulled is the King of Scepters.
And I love this deck because each card,um, even in the minor arcana are, uh, are
associated with a story or storytelling.
And so I had to pick it up becausestories are my favorite, my favorite
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way of seeing the world, my favoriteway of understanding the world
and my favorite way of teachingabout the world and about magic.
So, um, what I would like youto know about this card today
for you listening, whenever.
And wherever you happen to be is that thisis a card that shows sure on the centaur.
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It's the sign for Sagittarius in thesky and the constellations and the story
behind him is that he was accidentallypoisoned by a spear from Heracles, and it.
because he's immortal, he was notable to have the respite of death.
He was just in constant and forever pain.
And so Zeus put him in the starsand the heavens to give him a, uh, a
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place to have respite from the painthat he was in from being poisoned.
And yet he.
is a card that representsstrength in the face of something,
an obstacle or adversity.
And so maybe that's something that youneed to hear right now is that taking
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risks and putting yourself out thereis not necessarily a bad thing, even
when you get hurt doing it, even whenit doesn't necessarily play out for
you the way that you anticipated itor wanted it to, and I am hoping that
the efforts that you are making towardssomething in your life right now, that you
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will see that it's worth the effort, it'sworth the pain and suffering that might
be occurring as a result of going for thisparticular thing that you're going for.
You are sort of in warrior mode atthe moment, which means that you're
going to be doing things that feela little bit out of character for
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you, typically, but it feels right.
It feels like the right move for you, andit feels like You're sort of in a place
where you're advocating for yourself andfor others, maybe for the first time,
maybe feeling like I've kept my mouthshut, I've been a people pleaser, I have
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tried to play by the rules, and this ismy moment to say that for my own health
and wellness, for my own The virus wealthand prosperity, I'm going to need to step
into a role that is a little bit morerisky and might even, at times, present
me in a light that is not as flattering,not as people pleasing, if you will.
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Alright, so I hope that thathelps and I am excited to invite
Shannon to our show today.
In this show, Practically Magic,we take things that are real life,
things that Are based and rootedin reality and science in, um, in
education, in the pursuit of happiness.
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And we understand it as in therealm of practically magic that
these things can feel at times.
To be magical and we're learningabout that as if we are students
of the world and I'm excited tohave Shannon on because Shannon and
I have had a lot of conversationsabout what it means to be healing
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and aware of ourselves in practicingmindfulness in practicing, um, healing.
And what that means for our fitnessgoals, what that means for wellness,
what that means for, um, forour own bodies and for our goals
with our bodies, with our health.
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So I'm excited to have Shannon on.
We'll see what our, whereour conversation takes us.
Hello and welcome Shannon.
Thank you for coming on the show.
Hi, Courtney.
So excited to be here.
Thank you for inviting me.
All right.
So let's get into it.
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We did, um, an episode a couple ofweeks ago, uh, practically magic.
So for those of you listening,go back a couple of episodes.
And, um, we did one on, uh,wealth and finance with a finance
coach, Kathy Posse, we both know.
And I.
I, it's going to be a very similarconversation in that whether we're
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talking about wellness or fitness.
We, um, we're just talking about not thehow to do it, or it's kind of the why or
the, um, the personal belief systems thatkeep us blocked or moving towards the
goals that we want to make for ourselves.
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And Shannon has been a formercompetitive gymnast, as well as.
CEO of Golladay Fit LLC and afitness coach and wellness coach.
So tell me a little bit about yourexperience with clients or with working
with people and what you notice aboutwhat keeps them either blocked or
can move them through those blocksinto their meeting their goals.
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Sure.
Thanks, Courtney.
I like to use the example oftwo women that I worked with.
I won't use their names, but I'll usejust, you know, fake names for now.
So there was Sue and there was Jill.
And Sue and Jill both had a similargoal of losing over 100 pounds.
And so Sue and Jill both came to me.
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They, um, I coached them the same way.
I gave them the same tools and Suelost 134 pounds and Jill ended up
back in the hospital, um, worseoff than she was when she started.
And so I was shocked because,you know, two people with similar
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goals, two women and similar toolsand the same coach, but different,
very drastically different results.
And so what was thedifference between those two?
Well, um, mindset was huge.
Um, so believing that it waspossible and getting rid of those
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beliefs in their, in their, youknow, in their way, in their path.
Um, also having a really strongwhy and a desire to change.
Um, I think that was huge.
Um, one wanted to have more childrenand she wanted to do anything it
took to get in shape, get healthyagain, to have more children.
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Um, the other one, you know, justsaid she wanted to get healthy.
It was more of a vague goal.
It wasn't as specific.
It wasn't as motivating.
And, you know, so one justtook off and saw results.
I mean, it took about 18 monthsto get, to lose over 134 pounds.
I'm not into fast.
Fast weight loss.
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Um, but it was just, it blew mymind that these two had very similar
goals, same tools, same coach, andjust ended in very different places.
Yeah, and it's interestingbecause we've kind of had
conversations about this before.
Um, where, when I was going tothe Institute of Healing Arts and
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we're learning about energy workand we're learning about these
belief systems that typicallystarted when you were very young.
I mean there's subconscious beliefsor subconscious energy, emotional
energy that are being held in the body.
Um, but I heard stories ofpeople that were like, I am
doing all the right things.
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Um, you know, women who had learned thesehabits of like eating right and, um,
and getting on a pretty good exerciseroutine and doing what it took and,
and even cutting certain things outof their diet that were more sugar and
processed foods and things like that.
Um, but they weren't cutting the weight.
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come off like they expected or maybeit did at first, but they would get
stuck and they would, it's just,it was hard for them to understand.
But once they started doing like emotionalhealing work, it was whatever belief
systems the body was holding onto thatwas maybe holding that weight for a
reason that the body thought it neededto sometimes for protection or for You
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know, whatever, whatever trauma mayhave been linked to that belief system.
And it wasn't until they were able toidentify that and start to like work on
the healing work there that they were ableto see that, like that last puzzle piece
fall into place for their goals, right.
Their fitness goals.
So, yeah, I think that that beliefsystems like are really important.
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And, um, we've had clients whereUm, you and I both like know people
that some of the the block that theyhave about being able to go towards.
Okay, I know what I need to do.
I'm being taught the right tools.
I'm being taught the right habits,but just can't seem to get myself to
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wake up in the morning and do thosethings because there's an Somewhere
deep down an inherent belief oflike I don't deserve to get healthy.
I don't deserve.
Um, and for those listening who, um,have been listening to my previous
episode on alchemy, I, um, I had aguest and we talked a lot about shame.
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And she mentioned shame as not an emotion,which is the first time I'd heard that
kind of explained that way, but thatwhen things are seen through a lens
of shame, there's just this inherentbelief of like, I'm not worthy of this.
I'm not worthy of change.
I'm not worthy of, um, This care thatI'm giving my body, you probably have
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seen that in your experience in coaching.
Oh, oh, absolutely.
And even talking to clients, you know,I'll, I'll have a session with them and
I'll, you know, ask about their week.
And I can tell when someone's going tobe successful, if they're starting off
with, I did this wrong, I did this wrong,I did this wrong, I did this wrong.
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And then I'm like, okay, we're notgoing to see success if we're, if we're
constantly shaming ourselves and tellingus, you know, we're not good enough.
We, um, we did this wrong.
We did this wrong.
Like.
We can't build upon that.
And so I like to ask my clients, youknow, what did you do well this week?
What was your success this week?
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And sometimes people can'teven think of one thing.
And so, but that just pillsback the layers because I
want to know where they're at.
Like if they are shaming themselvesand, and even like as women, like
if we're looking in the mirror,we wake up, um, I can't remember
the statistic, but it was, it was.
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Shocking how many negative thoughts gothrough our minds from like the first
hour we wake up like we wake up Welook in the mirror brushing our teeth.
Oh, you look so terrible.
Oh, you're so fat.
Oh, you're so ugly Youput it on your jeans.
Oh my gosh You look like allthese negative thoughts are going
through our mind like first thingin the morning and how can we?
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um Nourish and grow and seesuccess when we are constantly
putting in the negativity.
It's the same thing, you know, like witha plant, they say, you know, like if
you're speaking to a plant negativelyand expecting it to bloom and grow,
how, how, how can we expect ourselves togrow and flourish if we are constantly
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beating ourselves down because, okay,you start your day off like that.
And then maybe you'retrying to eat healthy.
Maybe you're halfway doing a workout.
But deep down, you're just sayingyou're not good enough, you're not
worth it, and it's not gonna work.
You're not going to see results.
And so I just, I just can tell a bigdifference when someone, even working
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with you, Courtney, I know we've workedtogether on your health and fitness
goals, and I mean, you actually wonone of our contests or what were one
of the winners in one of our contests.
And I just talking to you, Icould tell you have done the
work and I could tell like.
You were just seeing, you know, amazingresults because you were speaking to
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yourself kindly and, you know, youhad done that foundation work, and
so then the rest, you just took off.
Yeah, and I can tell you, thathasn't always been the case for me.
Um, you know, a lot of it is like,that's why the work that you do, the
work that I do, even the work that Kathydoes in the financial coaching aspect,
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it's all so interconnected and work sowell together because we're all helping
achieve these little bits and piecesabout ourselves that help create like.
Awareness of where we came from.
And I don't know if you maybe find this,but I would be willing to bet that a lot
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of the clients that do speak negativelyabout themselves or wake up in the
morning and, or, or start their sessionwith you going, well, I, I didn't eat.
Well, I did this thing, you know,and they start shaming themselves.
I would be willing to bet orask them, how did your parents.
motivate you?
How did your parents speakto you when you were young?
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Did they, did they think thatshaming you or saying all the
things you did wrong, criticizingyou was the way to motivate you?
Was the way to say, this ishow you need to wake up and
make, you know, do your day.
You didn't make your bed.
You didn't do this.
You didn't do that.
And, you know, parents are parents.
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They're doing their best.
I'm not here to shame parents.
Like I've been there, totally doneit to my son, sons, all of them.
I've done it to all.
I've, I've done all thewrong things as well.
We've all done it.
So I'm not here to shame that, butI'm wondering is, you know, a lot of
times those kind of ways we speak toourselves, it comes from a subconscious
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belief that we've held for a very longtime, usually in early childhood, where
we believe this lie That that shamingwill make us change our behavior that
will be like, I, I didn't eat well.
I didn't exercise.
I didn't get up and dothe things I wanted to do.
And now I'm thinking, bad me bad me.
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I didn't do the right things,because you think that that's
going to make a difference.
I've been guilty of it.
Just as much or more than anyone.
I mean, really, we all have.
Yeah, we all have and but I think it'sit's becoming aware of what's going
on because I think a lot of peoplearen't even aware of the thoughts.
They are just doing they're so actiondriven, and they're trying trying trying
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and going through the cycle of on off onoff on off you know I hear this so much.
I fell off the wagon, I fell off thewagon, I need to get back on the wagon.
And it's like, if we'reon off on off on off.
Let's, let's look at the beliefs behindit, because if we believe that we have
to be on a diet, we have to be on some,you know, then it's not a lifestyle,
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it's not a healthy lifestyle, and it'sthe subconscious belief system behind
that we will constantly be on a rollercoaster if we don't fix those beliefs.
Yeah, and I, I, I'm guilty ofdoing, um, Candida cleanse, uh,
which has been great for my body.
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The times that I've done it, I reallyneeded to do it, but it's pretty strict.
It's like you go off of almosteverything and you completely, you
know, you reintroduce things slowlyinto your diet and it's a great reset.
I've done it before.
I don't recommend it unless you, uh, havetalked to a doctor or anything like that.
So I'm just going to put that out there.
Yeah.
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But I have needed that from time to time.
And so I thought going into that fitnesschallenge that I did in September, which
yeah, I, I went into it thinking, okay,I'll just do what has worked for me in
the past, which is like going on a cleanseand doing kind of something like that.
But I realized what worked better.
In that particular instance was to followmore of what you were telling me to do,
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the nutrition plans and just saying, Hey,you don't have to cut everything out.
You just need to be mindful aboutwhat you're eating or what times
of day or, um, and I, and I didgo into it saying, I usually lose
some weight, but I usually plateau.
Like I don't, I'll lose a bunch atthe beginning cause I changed my
habits and then I'll just not lose asingle pound for the rest of the time.
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And, um, And you were a greatcoach because you said, okay,
here's some things you need to do.
Um, one of the things you told me wasdo you tend to eat the same things
every day and, and get in a rut,you know, and I am totally that way.
I'm like, these are the things Iknow I can eat and I like to eat.
So I'll just stick with that.
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Like it'll just be like super dinnerevery night and this breakfast every
morning and I'll just stick with that.
And I'll just, I'll just make that my dietfor the rest of the, for the whole month.
And no wonder I plateaued, right?
I was like.
Yeah, I lost some weight in thebeginning because I was cutting out
more of the mindless snacking that I hadbeen doing and, and then I plateaued.
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I was like, and then I was like, you knowwhat, I actually do need to change it up.
I need to try different things.
I need to eat different things.
I need to, um, you know, make a meal planand like plan out what I'm going to eat,
put a little more effort into it, I guessa little bit more energy and effort.
And it totally worked.
And then I saw more like changeshappening with my body and,
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um, and it felt really great.
And I would say the, the difference maybein what I've done in the past or what
maybe some of some other people do andwhat worked for me this time, the key
word I keep coming back to is enthusiasm.
Yeah, because like thatmindset you're talking about.
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I wouldn't have had that mindset or itwould have been really hard for me to
have that mindset if I didn't have like.
When I lose this extra weight, I wantto lose and get my fitness goals going.
Um, when my body transforms in away I can noticeably see it, this
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is how excited I feel about that.
Like, and keeping that enthusiasmlasted me the whole month.
That's awesome.
And there wasn't, it's not likeI was like perfect and like.
I mean, there were days when I woke upand I was like, snacky, snacky snack.
And then I was like, okay, like Itotally, totally went back to some old
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habits that I was doing before thatI'm trying to change, but you have such
a great way of helping your clients.
You're the people that you're coaching.
You're like, that's not the end.
Of your journey, you know, thatwas one moment of weakness or
whatever you want to call it.
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I don't even know if you would callit weakness, but just that was one
moment of a poor choice for your body.
That doesn't mean you're done.
And you're, you're, you'relike the next moment after that
is like a new, fresh start.
You just go, okay, now whatis another healthy choice?
Absolutely.
And I love how you explained thatwith the enthusiasm, enthusiasm that
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you will get to your destination.
You will reach your goal.
Um, because that is a mindset shift.
If you are thinking,I'll never reach my goal.
This won't work for me.
Um, you know, I think it's Henry Fordsays, you know, whatever, if we think
we can, we can, if we think we can't, wecan't and that's absolutely so if you have
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enthusiasm towards where you're going.
Versus, um, disappointmentand discouragement.
I mean, I think feelings and emotionsare just as powerful as thoughts.
So if we have these feelingsand emotions of positivity
and excitement and enthusiasm,absolutely you're gonna take off.
But if you're, like, discouraged and,you know, shame and guilt and, you
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know, we're gonna go the other way.
So I love how you explained thatwith the emotion and the feeling.
Behind the thought process, because that'show you get results and see success.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Like thought and emotion are all energy.
It's all, you know, the, theenergy moves with our intention.
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So if we're intention, if our intention orthought energy is more, um, low vibration
where it's like, I'm just a lazy, nogood, you know, uh, I'm never going to
be athletic and never going to be fit.
I'm never going to lose this extra weightthat I want to lose, or I'm never going
to look a certain way that I want to look.
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Um, and you know, there are differentaspects of that where it's like our body
type needs to be taken into consideration.
Our, our hormone levels are all of theseother things that work and operate.
So having like, you know, this, this ideain my head that I was going to become.
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I don't know.
I'm trying to think of a really,really super thin actress or somebody
that like would be emulated by that.
I, you know, if I think that's mygoal or that's what I'm looking
to do, um, then yeah, I'm probablygoing to be pretty discouraged.
My body type just isn't that,and that's okay, but it's also
kind of a balance of like, I lovemyself and I love where I'm at.
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And I love every step of thisand every step of this journey.
While also being like, this is,this is where I would like to be
and this is how I'd like to feel.
I can't even say that my physicalbody changed all that much.
I mean, I took before and after pictureslike we do in the challenge, but I, you
know, I looked at them and I was like,okay, yeah, I can kind of see where maybe,
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you know, there was some, some changes.
But honestly, it was so muchmore about how I felt than it was
seeing noticeable changes, truly.
Oh, absolutely.
And, and that's it, you know,thinking of what your goal is.
I mean, I've, I've been on my, you know,wellness journey for almost 15 years.
It'll be 15 years in December.
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And, you know, there's beenups and downs along the way.
Um, but, but appreciatingour body and loving our body.
Through the journey is really important.
I mean, you and I have both have havechildren and you had twins, you know
so, you know being being grateful forour bodies ability to have children to
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To carry ourselves to be able to run towalk to exit to do all the things because
there's so many people that aren't able Todo the things that we've been able to do
and so I think if we come from a place ofgratitude For where we are at now as well.
That's important.
We want to see progress.
We want to change but having thatgratitude Um another story of a client
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I went to her house and she had apicture of herself on her fridge
Of her at her worst And so she waslooking at that every day and she was
thinking, I don't want to be like that.
And then I turned over the picture.
She had a picture of her beston the front and then a picture
of her worst on the back.
And I said, how can this be motivated?
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Like how can this be motivating to you?
I'm like, Because I mean, that was cool.
She had a picture on theother side of her best.
I'm like, we need to flip thisover and focus on you at your best.
And, and like you say, it's notnecessarily a specific weight, because
as we age, you know, I'm in my 40s.
And as we go into our different ages,of course, our body goes through
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different changes and things like that.
But How do we want to feel?
Like, do we want to have energy?
Do we want to feel happy?
Do you want to be able to run andhike and, you know, do the things?
Um, you know, that's, that'swhere I'm measuring success.
Like, yeah, sure.
The weight loss or losing inchesor fitting into our pants.
Those are like after awesome effects.
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Um, but if we're focusing on.
I feel awesome.
I feel amazing.
You know, I think that's evenmore Valuable because and
just one other side note.
I was just going to share I helped anotherclient Her goal was to lose over 20 pounds
and get flat abs after having a babySo so we did that she lost the weight.
She lost over 20 pounds.
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She got flat abs And shewas miserable afterwards.
And I was like, we reached the goal!
Oh, and we ran, we ran a half marathon.
That was another, like, someday goal.
Because I'm all about, let's, let's do it.
Yeah, someday, check, check, check, check.
She was miserable, and I was like,We did it, you know, and, but,
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but she still found, she stillfound things wrong with herself.
She still was like, but this, and this,and this, and this, and I'm like, oh
my gosh, that goes back to the beliefs.
Like, we have to love our bodies whereverwe're at, and because we'll never be happy
when, if, if we're not happy now, so.
Yes, and that's where that mindsetcomes in, that's so important, of
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like, Is your mindset that you needto shame yourself or that you need to
find flaws or that you need to find,you know, where did that life start?
That's something that my integratedprocessing technique, the emotional
processing I do with people, whetherit's their financial goals, their
personal relationship goals, theirfitness goals, it doesn't matter.
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And that's why it's hardfor me to market it.
We've talked about that beforewhere I'm like, it's hard
for me to focus on one thing.
Cause I'm like, but theemotional processing work is
for whatever blocks people have.
It's about finding.
Where's the lie that started way backwhen, you know, I would ask that client
who was like, she didn't, she achievedthe goals, but she still wasn't happy with
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herself or happy with what she'd achieved.
But it's like, where's the lie?
Where did the lie start that you hadto be so down on yourself or that you
had, or that it would require you tobe, or look a certain way for you to be
happy that you have to wait until that.
Right.
That destination was finally reached.
And then you could be gratefulor happy with yourself.
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And, and that's where I come in.
That's where I work with clientsis where does that come in?
And then what I was going to saytoo, is the community aspect.
We wanted to talk aboutlike, where does that fit in?
Because you have coaching that you dowith, with a group in helping people.
And it's like, who are yousurrounding yourself with that?
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Um, because women do tend to connector bond by being down on themselves.
Do you find that sometimesit's kind of a cultural thing?
Oh, absolutely.
Complaining and, you know,talking about what's going wrong
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is a really easy connector.
Um, I mean, even so my, you know, Ihave a degree in public relations and,
and that's what sells in the media.
Um, shocking the worst, like, you know,if you're looking at a headline, it's not
going to say something super positive.
Like you're going to getsomething negative, um, because it
connects people, people, people,um, bond with the negativity.
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And so if you, you know, I'vegone around women who are
like, Oh yeah, I'm overweight.
I'm tired.
I'm out of energy.
Oh, me too.
Me too.
Oh yeah.
That's normal.
Oh, that's how it is.
And then they just kindof stay stuck there.
And I'm like, Okay, like that's notlet's not make that normal and you
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know, but it is a conscious I thinkit's a very conscious effort to shift
our thoughts to the positive, becauselike you say, it's just easy to bond
and connect over here on the negative.
So, um, so if you who you're surroundingaround yourself really makes a difference.
Like if you are surrounding yourselfwith people who are like, Yeah, it's
okay to be 20 pounds overweight.
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Yeah.
It's okay to just, you know,just get bigger pants sizes.
Yeah.
It's okay to just splurgeand eat whatever you want.
And, and I'm not, you know, like I justsay, this is not about shaming, but for
me, it's about health and longevity.
And I want to feel and look my best,like all the way to a hundred, you know?
And so I want to be withthose people that are like.
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Yeah, I want to hike.
Yeah, I want to run a race.
Yeah, I want it.
Let's go running today.
Sure, I can go right now.
Let's, you know, I know youand I went running one time and
it's like, yeah, let's go today.
Sure.
Let's do it.
You know, like, um, I knowit was super sad that the
weather started changing right.
As I got back into running forthe first time in 15 years.
And I was like, I'm actuallyenjoying running again.
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And then it was like, uh, maybethis was the wrong season to start.
That was my fault, butI think it was great.
And.
That time that we went runningaround the lake here, we live in,
um, the daybreak area and the lakeis a good, like three miles or so.
Um, if you do the whole lake, I don'tthink I'd ever run the entire lake or
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walked the entire lake all the way around.
And it really pushed me.
I was like, my body is capableof more than I realized.
And it wasn't that it was easy,but it wasn't impossible either.
So community, like doing things likethat together, like what can, what
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magic can happen when you're motivatedto be like, we're going to run together
this whole, you know, much longer thanI normally do or pushing ourselves.
Yeah.
And what I found in our conversationsand talking with you is that Um,
I don't know if anyone's ever seenyou'll know the scene from Mean Girls,
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uh, where she's not quite familiarwith the dynamic of American girls
and how they talk to each other.
And she's kind of an outsider but shenotices she's noticing that they're all
talking about their bodies and they'relike, Oh my gosh my thighs are too
big and oh my, you know, I wish I had.
Thicker lips and they'repicking out all these things.
And she's the narrator.
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She's like, I'm realizing thatthis is how girls connect.
They bond with each otherand they all pick each other.
You know, they're themselves apart.
And they look at her,like, it's your turn.
And it's almost like, if you don'tdo it, you're full of yourself.
You're, you're, um, you're too cocky.
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Right.
And I wondered if.
If we step out of those patterns andwe don't connect in those ways, would
we have things to connect about?
Would we be able to have, uh,conversations with friends?
And you and I, I found it reallyeasy to talk about things we'd
like to do or things that are like,I'd love to get back into running.
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I love running.
And We did have things to talkabout and things to connect over,
which was like, what are our goals?
What do we want to do?
I want to, I want to do a hike.
I want to do, you know, let'smake plans to do, to do this hike
before the weather gets too cold.
And we did that.
So it just proves that thereis opportunities to have those.
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Same connections, the same, youknow, being able to bond and like
create friendship over things thatare not just picking ourselves apart.
And uh, and I do like to gatherwomen together and have moments
where we can talk about things thatare real and vulnerable and hard.
I mean, we, we don't want to act likeour lives are so great and perfect that
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we can Disconnect for ourselves fromother people, but being able to say like.
Yeah, I've really been struggling lately,um, to eat well and then have a friend
or somebody say, Oh, that's really hard.
I understand.
I've totally been there.
Um, what can I do?
What can I do to help?
Or, you know, what, what do you need?
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And that can be a kind of differentconversation than just the, I'm going to
pick myself apart, I'm going to complain.
Um, you know, it's a different kindof dynamic, if that makes sense.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, there's, there's a difference,um, between, um, You know, like,
all coming together, complaining,and staying stuck there, and
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going home, and feeling miserable.
Versus, you know, versus leaning on eachother, because I think, you know, we're
here to support and encourage each other.
And so, it's not about not beingreal, because I've, I've talked
about this before, you know.
Um, with other people, like, you know,it's not about being fake positive, it's
not about being like, oh, my life isperfect, it's being about, here's where
(35:30):
I'm at, here's where I am, and this ishard, and here's where I want to go.
Um, and so let's acknowledge the hard.
Let's let's comfort each other,support each other, but then let's
help us rise above and get to a betterplace and not and not stay stuck
there because it's okay to be here.
But I just think that there's powerin rising above and overcoming the
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obstacles, because that's where the magichappens is where we can rise above even.
You know, I just love inspiringstories of people who are like,
I went through this and this andthis, this was hard, hard, hard.
But then I got here and howdid they get from here to here?
It's because of their mindset of,okay, I'm here, but I want to go here.
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And how can I get there?
And that's just, uh, it'san amazing conversation.
Absolutely.
It's kind of like, we need the validation.
We need the person to that,that can hold space for us in
the hard, but that's where.
Agreeing as a community that that'snot the space we're going to stay in as
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just the it's hard, um, but the like,encouraging and motivating and, um,
yeah, holding space for each other.
So yeah, absolutely.
That's a great aspect of community,whether it's just groups of women
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supporting each other or, um, Youknow, and it doesn't have to be women.
I say women because this is the, the,the spaces where you're typically in or,
um, facilitating in that wellness aspect.
But, uh, I remember you saying once inyour marketing, being able to market
just, you know, wellness to moms whoare trying to get back in shape after
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having a baby or things like that.
And then there were dads reachingout to you and being like, can I?
Yeah.
Do this too.
We're not excluding anybody orany demographic, but yeah, it is.
It's typically that sort of communitythat women, um, tend to create for
themselves is like, you can choose whatyour community is and you can choose
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how to participate in that community.
So be intentional about that.
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I also think, you know, it'simportant to know our goals and know
what we're looking to accomplish.
I know a lot of times Wedon't write down goal.
I hear people make New Year's resolutionsin January and they've forgotten them
by February, March, you know, and so,so knowing where you're going, and then
(38:01):
knowing who has accomplished that goalalready, and then surround yourself with
those people that you want to go there,you know, um, It's not to say, like, if
you're around people who are complaining,and, you know, they're your family, or
you love them, like, you don't have to,like, get them out of your life, like,
I would just not give power to thoseemotions, like, um, okay, you know,
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I'm going to support and encourage thisperson, maybe we're going in different
directions, but I'm still going to loveand support them, but then I'm going to
surround myself over here with peoplewho are going where I want to go.
And so I think that's really importantto acknowledge because sometimes people
are like, Oh, now I need to cut people.
No, no, you don't need toget anyone out of your life.
You know, but just don't give don'tgive power to those emotions and
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don't let those pull you down.
Because, you know, I don't know.
I just always say we haveone shot at this life.
And how do we want to do it?
You know, like, like, wedon't have to stay set.
Like, we can accomplish whatever we want.
The sky's the limit.
And so we, we have to have thosebeliefs and the people around
us, and then we can skyrocket.
(39:09):
Yeah.
And it's, it's.
It's good that you said, like, we havethis one life, so we have this body and
I think some of it in the spiritual oremotional aspect of wellness for me,
realizing even just recently realizingthat I do have some body dysmorphia.
(39:30):
I do have some, uh, almost as if my spiritand body are at war with each other.
And for me.
Engaging with fitness or engagingwith anything because I'm not
an athletic type of person.
I was one of those kind of people whoI, I did cross country because you
didn't have to try out and I didn'tactually have to be good at it.
(39:50):
And that was the most athletic I ever got.
I, they would ask me to be onvolleyball teams and I stood there
and I would just wave my hand in theair and I'd be like, I'm just a body
so that we don't have to forfeit.
That's it.
I have no, I'm not diving for the ball.
This is not my jam, but I do realizethat the more I engage with something
(40:11):
physical when I'm, you know, stretchingor, uh, you know, doing some yoga
or something like that, it makesmy spirit and body connect more.
They're not as much at war with each otheras I think they've been my whole life.
Like, and I'm just realizingthat recently, like I have
(40:33):
been at war with my body.
And what happens to a body whenyou're at war with it your whole life,
your body, your mind and your spiritare like, this body is not right.
It can't do what I needit to do or whatever.
The body is going to get sick.
I mean, that's just the way thatenergy is going to present itself.
(40:55):
And so, you know, you can't be surprisedwhen your body starts to reject you.
If you, you've been rejectingyour body your whole life.
So I got to a place where I waslike, listen, I'm getting older.
My body is going to need to be takencare of more so than ever before.
I don't have youth on my side.
So I'm going to want to engage withmy body in ways that not only nurture
(41:21):
it and take care of it and feedit, but also love it in a way that
I've probably not been doing well.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I would just also add, I thinkthat society, um, plays a big part
into that conflict because likethere's these societal norms of how we
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should look like and how we should be.
And, you know, there's so much pressure.
And so I think that plays a big partinto this battle because if we are
rejecting our body because of, youknow, what we've heard or what so and
so said or this or that or, you know,I think that that's hard to have that
(42:05):
peace with our body and our spirit.
And so, you know, if anything,if we reject, we reject all that.
And come to peace with our body.
And, and like you say, withfitness, I, I love fitness.
I'm super passionate about fitness.
And I feel like fitness is like,it pops you into the present.
(42:26):
Like, you know, I worked with a therapistonce, she's like, just do 10 jumping.
Like if you're feeling likeyour, your mind is all over the
place, just do jumping jacks andjust even that act of motion.
Get your body and connect andspirit connected together.
And so when you are doing fitness, yourbody and fit and spirit are more connected
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because you are in the present physicallyand mentally, because you, you're not just
sitting there and getting sidetracked.
You're moving.
You have to figure it.
You like, you'll fall all overthe place, you know, if you're not
consciously there and that was reallypowerful to me when, um, when she
said, cause it was during COVID and,um, I was doing these challenges to
(43:07):
like get people out of their house.
So I'm like, even just stand on yourporch and do 10 jumping jacks and then
come back and people were feeling better.
Just do, I was justtelling him to do that.
And then when she saidthat to me, I'm like.
That that's why that's why it snapsyour body and your spirit together, and
then you're able to connect more so.
(43:27):
Oh my gosh, and I just realized thatthat's, that's a perfect correlation with
the Energy healing work or with spiritualwork because we do tend to, you know,
psychologists call it disassociating,but it's like you almost disassociate
or leave your body and a lot of peoplewho have handled trauma or have post
(43:49):
traumatic stress or, um, and, and bythe way, it doesn't even have to be big
trauma, like abuse in your childhoodor earlier in your life, but anything
that, that causes us to disassociate.
As a coping mechanism, right?
Something that makes us go, I'm justgoing to leave my body for a little
bit because it's easier to not have todeal with the pain of having a body or
(44:11):
experiencing what's in the present moment.
We all do it.
We all have a tendency to be like,well, I'm just going to step out.
Right.
And we tend to do thatthrough our crown chakra.
So we would like stepout of our body, right?
Our spirit or our mind.
Mentally steps out, but exercise thengrounds us back to our root chakra,
(44:32):
which is like, like you're saying, beingpresent in the body, being aware of our
physical self and how we're connectedto the earth in this moment in time.
So for people who like to dogrounding exercises, go out into the.
you know, they step on their barefeet on the earth and just go, okay,
I'm going to breathe into my body.
I'm going to root myself.
(44:53):
And having balanced chakras means thatyou're both grounded and present and
aware, even if it means experiencingpain or emotions that you maybe Would
normally avoid, but being able to bepresent in the moment and then also
being able to be connected spirituallyto your higher power or to your soul or
(45:13):
to the spirit world, like having bothin balance with each other means being
a fully, you know, balanced person.
Okay, so.
I think it, I find it fascinatingthat you're, you're mentioning that
we're talking about grounding orbeing present and we're both wearing
red today, which I just want topoint out was totally unplanned.
(45:36):
But that is the chakra color is thered so we're both like on the same
page here where we're talking aboutlike grounding being present and
being able to be fully in our body.
Right.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, there's just so much to it.
And, um, it's pretty amazing, like, as youknow, as we learn more about these things.
(46:02):
And even, even this morning, I mean, thisis a side note, but I was listening to
this podcast about like how the moon andI know you've done some moon work, you
know, how the moon affects our energy.
And, and, you know, even thatit's just like, wow, like, there's
just there's so much more to it.
Yeah.
Yes, for sure.
And my friend Cambria, who does theastrology, she can tell you all the
(46:26):
things I don't know, but like theplanets, the alignment, the like,
what we're in right now, Mer, Mercuryis entering retrograde right now.
So things are going to be a littlebit affected by that, but we cannot
live our lives as if we are completelydisconnected from all the things that
infiltrator energy and that affect us.
(46:48):
Um, I mean, and that brings us backto your point about, um, society
and the influence of the media.
I'm a 90s girl.
I, I definitely cannot say I was notinfluenced by the Tara Reid era of
like ultra ultra thin being the ideal.
(47:08):
And I, I wish I can say I'm evolved enoughto say I don't want to be that thin.
But I do.
It's something I battle every day.
I look at myself and Igo, I wish I were a twig.
I wish there was no fat orjiggle or anything on me.
I'm just as susceptible to it.
(47:30):
And so it's, uh, you know, for thoseof you listening who want to go to
another throwback episode, the episodethat I do on codependency, it's really
not all that different is that we canbe We can be codependent to of the
influence of other people and societyand, you know, magazines and images
(47:51):
and what we see on TV, like tellingus, this is how it's supposed to be.
This is how you're supposed to look.
This is how you're supposed to feel.
And, and being able to separate ourselvesfrom that and say, that's not my energy.
That's not what I need to hold.
That's someone else'swork that they're doing.
I am just needing to be aware ofmyself and my journey and what.
(48:14):
to do.
Right.
Absolutely.
And, and when we can come to aplace of, um, This is who I am and
I love who I am and I'm continuing,like, this is where I'm at now.
And this is where I want to go and I'mcontinuing to learn and grow and progress.
Um, but like you say,disconnecting yourself from
outside influences or sources.
This sh you should be like this initially.
(48:36):
Because I've had that you know likethe voices in your head like you
should be like at least for me likeyou should be Less sensitive you should
be Like, I'm very passionate and I'mvery, you know, I can get into it.
And it's like, You know, like youshould, you should, should, should.
It's like, goodbye, stopshoulding on yourself.
(48:57):
That's what I always say to people.
I'm like, stop shoulding on yourselfand stop shoulding on others.
Like, um, I almost feel like theword should, should be removed
from our vocabulary so that we'renot always going should, should,
should this, that, or whatever.
Yeah.
And that can have such an impacton so many aspects of our lives,
fitness, health, all of it.
(49:21):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Well, and, um, I think when you get tothat place of You know, this is where
i'm at and this is where I want to goUm, then you truly see progress and you
can find true happiness and you can begrounded in who you are and where you
want to be um in your life and um I thinkthat's the most most fulfilling because
(49:41):
then you're not People pleasing or youknow trying to be a certain i've done
that where it's like you're trying to bethis for these people They're trying to
be this and and it's so exhausting andit's just like like break Away, you know.
Yep.
Yep.
And I think we're moving into an era,whether it's cosmically or energetically,
or we're shifting into an energy that,um, Cambria Davis Mukai community, she
(50:08):
would say it's It's because Pluto justentered Aquarius, and it's going to be
in Aquarius for a long amount of time.
And what that means is we're breakingdown boundaries and systems, and we
are opening things up to being moreauthentic, being more in a space of what,
what do I need and what works for me.
(50:29):
So.
It's time to shed all that and shedall the like expectations and I'm here
to be what everybody else needs meto be and just be who is the best me.
Aligned with who I wantto be that I can be
(50:52):
all right with that.
I'm going to let you, uh, tell us inour audience where they can find you
if they want to learn more or have,uh, access to what you have to offer.
Thanks, Courtney.
Um, before I say that, I just,I hope my internet's okay.
(51:13):
It went a little.
Yeah, we're being a littleglitchy, but that's okay.
We'll make it work.
But I just, uh, Okay.
Well, um, I wanted tosay how amazing you are
(51:35):
for the work that you do, Courtney,because I think that it is so
important to, um, to dive deep intoour past beliefs, dive deep into our
subconscious and, and look at wherewe came from and how that's shining.
In, in the now, right now, becausea lot of times we're walking through
(51:55):
life, and we're, we're just carryingall this stuff on our backs, and we
don't realize where it came from,or, you know, that it's even there.
Yeah.
So I love the work that you do because,um, like you say that this shows up in
(52:18):
our lives in so many in our financesin our marriages and being a parent.
And so to dig back there andpull it to the front and then
to be able to release it.
It's very powerful.
So I, I recommend the work thatyou're doing and thank you for that.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
I love the work that I do too.
(52:42):
Yeah, you're welcome.
Um, so, so yeah, thankyou for having me today.
I've loved being here.
And so you can find meonline on Instagram.
Um, it's your Y O U R underunderscore personal cheerleader.
So Y O U R underscore personalunderscore cheerleader.
(53:05):
Um, so Your Personal Cheerleader,um, I, I believe that I am a
personal cheerleader to cheer, um,people on in their wellness goals.
Um, I also have a free PDF thatis, um, yourwellnesscheckin.
com, so yourwellnesscheckin.
And it links to a free Facebookgroup where I have weekly
(53:28):
challenges, weekly weekends.
And challenges to help us stayon track during the weekend and
make our weekend a strong end.
Um, so that's a reallygood place to start.
You can join my monthly
check in challenge.
(53:50):
That's part of my personal coachingprogram, where you're going to get all
the tools, the workouts, the nutrition.
You can start with the free.
And check out your, um,your, um, wellness check in.
com.
Perfect.
And I always do post all of the resourcesand links to my guests on my website.
(54:12):
So go to prism healing.
com to find me.
My website and my services and thenyou will see a link to my blog at
the top and my blog is just a, um,a recap and summary of every episode
that I have done on Practically Magic.
And I always post the resources, thelinks to listen and watch the episode.
(54:37):
Um, and so if you're listening and you'relike, I want more of this, I want to know
where else I can find more informationabout this, I will post as much
information as I can there and update it.
If new information happens to come up.
So go there first.
And then you can alwaysfind me on social media too.
Prism healing, um, Instagram prismunderscore healing, um, Facebook,
(54:59):
Courtney pearls, prism healing,um, tick tock at prison healing.
Uh, just look up prison healing.
I'm sure I'll come up insome aspect or another.
Um, and I will always, youknow, do a good throwback.
Uh, you'll see some clips.
From this episode so that you'll knowwhen Shannon is on and, um, yeah,
(55:20):
we'll do a lot of, uh, cross promotingfor each other to make sure that
you get access to all of the thingsthat we've mentioned here today.
All right.
Do you have anything elsethat you want to share?
Any events or special thingsthat are coming up for you?
All
(55:45):
right.
So I want to think so at the beginningof December, every first month.
Every
first Monday of the month, Ihave a new challenge coming up.
So the, in December, we're doing adance and healthy dessert challenge.
(56:08):
So that's going to be really fun.
And then we're kicking off the newyear with a New Year's challenge.
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
And I love treats and I love dancing.
So I'm excited for December.
That's perfect.
I can't wait for that.
Yeah.
Shannon is very good at postingand, uh, and keeping up with all
(56:29):
of the people that she's coaching.
I am getting messages more so than I caneven respond to, but it's still always
helpful to have those reminders, thetext messages and the Facebook group.
And I'm like, Oh yeah, I need to do thisor I need to keep on track with that.
So, uh, I just got to get, getback into my routine so I can keep
engaging with those posts, but thankyou so much Shannon, and I would
(56:53):
like to thank our sponsors, Ridethe Wave Media is our producer.
And if you are interested in sponsoringthe show or being mentioned on the show
as a special thing, you can get ahold ofme and we will make sure we highlight you.
So, thank you again, and domagic, witches and wizards.
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