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September 19, 2025 • 17 mins

🚨 A global tidal wave of truth just broke open. In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s tragic assassination, something unthinkable happened… Instead of silence, the world erupted in millions of voices: ✊🏽 “I Am Charlie Kirk.”

In this raw, heartfelt episode, Debbie Dobbins reflects on why she now sees Charlie Kirk as the Martin Luther King of our time—a man who stood unapologetically for truth, for faith, for love, and for freedom, even when it meant standing alone.

đź’” From heartbreak to hope, from confusion to conviction, Debbie shares:

  • Her awakening after visiting the Civil Rights Museum just weeks ago

  • The divine thread that connects MLK, Gandhi, and Charlie: Faith > Fear

  • How a pregnant spider analogy perfectly explains what’s happening right now

  • Why the assassination didn’t kill the mission—it multiplied it

  • What you can do right now to carry this legacy forward

🌍 Whether you admired Charlie, disagreed with him, or barely knew his name, this is your invitation to listen with your heart.

“You can kill a man, but you can’t kill an idea whose time has come.”

🙏🏼 Join the movement. Rise in truth. Choose love over hate. And let Charlie’s legacy awaken your own inner leader.

📣 COMMENT below if you’re one of the Millions of Charlies rising up in faith, love, and freedom.

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Here we share actionable insights, inviting you to turn inwards and design your life of purpose and abundance. 4 00:00:23,831.995464853 --> 00:00:25,331.995464853 Hello friends. 5 00:00:25,331.995464853 --> 00:00:35,811.995464853 It's Debbie Dobbins and this is another episode of Radical Responsibility Revolution, and I am coming to you with a heart both heavy and lit up. 6 00:00:36,531.995464853 --> 00:00:38,571.995464853 This isn't just another episode. 7 00:00:38,961.995464853 --> 00:00:54,781.995464853 This is my open heart, my full throated tribute, and my raw call for something better because in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, something really unexpected is happening. 8 00:00:55,531.995464853 --> 00:01:03,211.995464853 Something extraordinary and my first thought when I heard that Charlie had passed was absolute heartbreak. 9 00:01:04,171.995464853 --> 00:01:09,841.995464853 My second was a quiet, terrified whisper who will carry on what he started. 10 00:01:11,251.995464853 --> 00:01:35,971.995464853 But I didn't realize just how wrong that second thought was because what has unfolded over the past week? On social media across nations, in people's living rooms and local churches, and even in the streets of the United Kingdom, as something I can only describe as miraculous. 11 00:01:37,441.995464853 --> 00:01:41,56.99546485 Charlie's Instagram following exploded from 1.2 12 00:01:41,56.99546485 --> 00:01:49,341.99546485 million to over 12 million in the uk, they say a hundred thousand people gathered. 13 00:01:49,761.99546485 --> 00:01:56,391.99546485 I think it's closer to a million, but they gathered in a vigil for free speech in Charlie's Honor. 14 00:01:57,771.99546485 --> 00:02:05,61.99546485 That is not just a ripple, that's a global tsunami of truth rising up. 15 00:02:06,306.99546485 --> 00:02:17,226.99546485 The vigil was not just for Charlie, it was for the idea that he represented freedom of speech, love over hate and truth over tribalism. 16 00:02:18,246.99546485 --> 00:02:37,96.99546485 So what happens when a single voice ignites a global chorus? You're hearing a rallying cry to research what you believe, to talk to someone you disagree with, and to carry on the legacy of civil discourse and freedom. 17 00:02:37,666.99546485 --> 00:02:47,86.99546485 This is not just a tribute, it is a call to remember what Charlie stood for and who we can become because of it. 18 00:02:49,26.99546485 --> 00:02:55,566.99546485 In the wake of Charlie's tragic assassination, there's been this tidal wave of I am Charlie Kirk. 19 00:02:56,136.99546485 --> 00:03:05,256.99546485 There's posts, there's vigils, and millions of new supporters have emerged proving that you can kill a man, but not a mission. 20 00:03:06,216.99546485 --> 00:03:12,96.99546485 People everywhere are saying, I am Charlie Kirk, and that's not really my mantra. 21 00:03:12,276.99546485 --> 00:03:14,886.99546485 I don't say I am anybody because I am Debbie. 22 00:03:15,886.99546485 --> 00:03:34,186.99546485 I do say I'm love because in that way we are all Charlie Kirk, at least the essence of his faith and love and forgiveness, because what's rising from the ashes of this horrific tragedy is exactly what the world needed. 23 00:03:35,716.99546485 --> 00:03:43,126.99546485 The other day I said and did a blog, Charlie Kirk was the Martin Luther King of this generation. 24 00:03:43,531.99546485 --> 00:03:58,951.99546485 I didn't realize this was not an original idea, of course, until I, until I saw a whole lot of posts saying the same thing, primarily because of the impact on the world is why they were saying it, and the impact that has happened as a result of this assassination. 25 00:03:59,951.99546485 --> 00:04:11,711.99546485 When I made that statement, I was making the analogy about him and Martin Luther King being driven by non-violence and more importantly, their values. 26 00:04:12,661.99546485 --> 00:04:24,541.99546485 Because as they were both driven by values so deeply ingrained in themselves and so anchored in spirit, they could not be bought or bullied or broken. 27 00:04:25,851.99546485 --> 00:04:32,211.99546485 And just like Martin Luther King, Charlie Kirk paid the ultimate price for refusing to be silenced. 28 00:04:32,811.99546485 --> 00:04:35,151.99546485 But Charlie was not Martin Luther King. 29 00:04:35,571.99546485 --> 00:04:38,91.99546485 He was one of one, as we all are. 30 00:04:38,931.99546485 --> 00:04:40,401.99546485 He was irreplaceable. 31 00:04:40,431.99546485 --> 00:04:44,901.99546485 As so many have coined that phrase lately, irreplaceable. 32 00:04:45,51.99546485 --> 00:04:49,281.99546485 Just like you are irreplaceable, as we all are irreplaceable. 33 00:04:51,351.99546485 --> 00:04:53,451.99546485 So I wanna confess something vulnerable. 34 00:04:54,426.99546485 --> 00:04:55,446.99546485 I knew of Charlie. 35 00:04:55,596.99546485 --> 00:05:04,806.99546485 I knew he was reaching out to youth speaking truth in places that it's no longer welcomed college campuses, churches, TikTok. 36 00:05:05,466.99546485 --> 00:05:16,416.99546485 I had seen some clips and I admired his courage, but I hadn't taken the time to study him, and what I found in the past week has stunned me. 37 00:05:17,316.99546485 --> 00:05:38,756.99546485 It has inspired me and has called me higher as I've watched his videos from question and answer sessions between college students and himself dressed in his typical T-shirt garb to speaking to students at Oxford University in a suit, and he was comfortable in all of these settings. 38 00:05:39,476.99546485 --> 00:05:45,626.99546485 Speaking 10 feet from a college student or on a podium with the president of the United States. 39 00:05:46,316.99546485 --> 00:05:47,966.99546485 Charlie was one of one. 40 00:05:49,706.99546485 --> 00:06:00,206.99546485 But did you know during an interview not too long ago, a podcaster asked him how did he want to be remembered? And first of all, he was shocked. 41 00:06:00,206.99546485 --> 00:06:01,826.99546485 He had a little shock look on his face. 42 00:06:01,826.99546485 --> 00:06:06,581.99546485 He said, you mean if I die? And then he paused and he said. 43 00:06:07,316.99546485 --> 00:06:32,696.99546485 I would want to be remembered for my courageous faith, not his media reach, not his sharp debating skills, his courageous faith, because that was his north star, his core value, which was his love for his God, his total commitment to truth, even when it meant standing alone. 44 00:06:34,61.99546485 --> 00:06:45,701.99546485 And the more I listened, the more I watched, the more I realized Charlie Kirk is the Martin Luther King of this generation, A symbol of freedom, of love, of nonviolence. 45 00:06:47,111.99546485 --> 00:06:47,501.99546485 Yep. 46 00:06:47,951.99546485 --> 00:06:52,691.99546485 I said it again, and I'm gonna say it again because like Dr. 47 00:06:52,691.99546485 --> 00:06:55,121.99546485 King, Charlie stood on faith. 48 00:06:55,691.99546485 --> 00:07:01,271.99546485 He walked in love and believed in the divine spark within every human being. 49 00:07:02,111.99546485 --> 00:07:02,561.99546485 Yes. 50 00:07:02,561.99546485 --> 00:07:10,211.99546485 You and even the ones who hated him he was articulate, oh my God, he was so articulate. 51 00:07:10,211.99546485 --> 00:07:11,471.99546485 He was fierce. 52 00:07:12,251.99546485 --> 00:07:14,21.99546485 He was an amazing debater. 53 00:07:14,561.99546485 --> 00:07:19,181.99546485 He was a thinker, and he knew more history than most professors. 54 00:07:19,886.99546485 --> 00:07:21,506.99546485 Probably all of them actually. 55 00:07:21,506.99546485 --> 00:07:25,526.99546485 But above all, he was driven by love and faith. 56 00:07:27,506.99546485 --> 00:07:37,431.99546485 So I wanna tell you a funny little story that my brother has told over the years, and it reminded me of this experience one day. 57 00:07:38,721.99546485 --> 00:07:45,891.99546485 His kids found a spider in their house, and like dads do, he said, I'll, I'll kill the spider. 58 00:07:46,131.99546485 --> 00:07:47,661.99546485 You know, kids screaming and all. 59 00:07:47,661.99546485 --> 00:07:50,181.99546485 They were freaking out because it was a spider. 60 00:07:50,541.99546485 --> 00:08:00,596.99546485 And when he struck the spider, it was clear that she was pregnant, but the second it was smashed, hundreds of baby spiders scattered everywhere. 61 00:08:01,256.99546485 --> 00:08:05,961.99546485 Now I know it's a little bit of a weird analogy, but I think it's perfect. 62 00:08:07,176.99546485 --> 00:08:16,386.99546485 What happened when Charlie died? Millions of baby Charlies emerged literally millions around the world. 63 00:08:16,746.99546485 --> 00:08:26,761.99546485 New leaders, new voices, people waking up, rising up, speaking up, not in anger, but in conviction. 64 00:08:28,131.99546485 --> 00:08:35,961.99546485 And the best case scenario has happened despite the hatred that is being spilled onto our streets. 65 00:08:37,551.99546485 --> 00:08:51,351.99546485 Because my greatest fear has been that Charlie's assassination would be another nine 11 moment where we feel fire in the belly for a few days and then forget, but this time feels different. 66 00:08:52,296.99546485 --> 00:09:00,936.99546485 We have thousands of hours of Charlie's own voice, his words, his convictions, his heart. 67 00:09:01,936.99546485 --> 00:09:14,821.99546485 He left us a roadmap, and now it's up to us to carry the torch because when they tried to silence Charlie, they unknowingly multiplied his voice. 68 00:09:16,336.99546485 --> 00:09:17,716.99546485 They didn't kill a man. 69 00:09:18,256.99546485 --> 00:09:20,536.99546485 They ignited a movement. 70 00:09:21,886.99546485 --> 00:09:37,816.99546485 So I wanna be clear, for those of you who are still entrenched in hate, whether you agreed or disagreed with Charlie and his values, he was a model for standing in our truth and values in a nonviolent way. 71 00:09:38,296.99546485 --> 00:09:44,836.99546485 They may not be your truth in your values, but if you stand in your truth, in your values, in a nonviolent way. 72 00:09:45,836.99546485 --> 00:09:47,786.99546485 You will make a difference. 73 00:09:49,886.99546485 --> 00:10:02,36.99546485 I don't agree with every single thing Charlie stood for far from it, but I do hold him in the highest esteem for bringing open debate, which was the biggest thing that he was able to do. 74 00:10:02,546.99546485 --> 00:10:08,96.99546485 Critical thinking and new ideas to our youth, which have been so stagnated. 75 00:10:09,96.99546485 --> 00:10:18,846.99546485 We cannot create a world of happiness, peace, prosperity, and allow the pursuit of happiness if we cannot talk to one another. 76 00:10:20,436.99546485 --> 00:10:21,96.99546485 So I have a plea. 77 00:10:22,761.99546485 --> 00:10:27,891.99546485 And anyone who knows me, I'm a do hard country music fan. 78 00:10:28,41.99546485 --> 00:10:29,61.99546485 I was country before. 79 00:10:29,61.99546485 --> 00:10:30,21.99546485 It was cool. 80 00:10:30,21.99546485 --> 00:10:40,971.99546485 And one of the reasons I love country so much is because it's simple poetry and oftentimes a message in a very succinct package. 81 00:10:41,811.99546485 --> 00:10:49,341.99546485 I was walking in the park yesterday and I always live as I listen to country and I heard these words and I wanna share them with you. 82 00:10:50,601.99546485 --> 00:10:54,641.99546485 By Luke Bryan most people are good. 83 00:10:55,511.99546485 --> 00:10:56,741.99546485 Turn off the screen. 84 00:10:57,11.99546485 --> 00:11:05,231.99546485 Go climb a tree, forgive and make amends friday nights are better under Neon Stadium Lights. 85 00:11:05,711.99546485 --> 00:11:06,791.99546485 Love who you love. 86 00:11:07,301.99546485 --> 00:11:10,91.99546485 This world ain't half as bad as it looks. 87 00:11:11,71.99546485 --> 00:11:16,861.99546485 And if you go to the nightly news, your faith in all mankind could be the first thing you lose. 88 00:11:18,91.99546485 --> 00:11:20,491.99546485 So here's my call to anyone listening. 89 00:11:21,631.99546485 --> 00:11:24,961.99546485 Have a conversation with someone you disagree with. 90 00:11:26,731.99546485 --> 00:11:34,591.99546485 Support your beliefs, not by yelling louder, but by doing the research so that you know why you have those beliefs. 91 00:11:35,461.99546485 --> 00:11:44,901.99546485 Learn how to critically think, how to debate, how to stand grounded in values, not soundbites. 92 00:11:45,876.99546485 --> 00:11:53,946.99546485 More importantly, get off your screens and stop watching the news so that you don't lose your faith in mankind. 93 00:11:54,426.99546485 --> 00:11:55,716.99546485 Go outside. 94 00:11:55,716.99546485 --> 00:11:56,856.99546485 Hug a tree. 95 00:11:57,96.99546485 --> 00:12:06,906.99546485 Run, skip, jump into your life and if really wanna know what Charlie stood for, go watch his videos because his legacy is recorded. 96 00:12:07,536.99546485 --> 00:12:10,716.99546485 Thousands of hours are available to all of us. 97 00:12:11,226.99546485 --> 00:12:19,806.99546485 And even if you disagree, watch how he was open to every idea, especially those he disagreed with. 98 00:12:21,56.99546485 --> 00:12:29,731.99546485 We don't have that luxury of listening to the legacy of Jesus or MLK or JFK, but with Charlie we do so study him. 99 00:12:30,461.99546485 --> 00:12:31,451.99546485 Don't just quote him. 100 00:12:31,901.99546485 --> 00:12:33,191.99546485 Don't just repost him. 101 00:12:33,581.99546485 --> 00:12:38,771.99546485 Embody him in the way that he was open to debate. 102 00:12:38,831.99546485 --> 00:12:40,751.99546485 He was open to conversation. 103 00:12:40,961.99546485 --> 00:12:42,341.99546485 He was open to love. 104 00:12:42,491.99546485 --> 00:12:51,41.99546485 He was open to nonviolence, and the real call here is to talk and listen and learn. 105 00:12:52,601.99546485 --> 00:12:59,261.99546485 So whether you're conservative or liberal, spiritual or atheist, unsure or afraid. 106 00:13:00,101.99546485 --> 00:13:16,661.99546485 Go watch Charlie's videos, not the memes, not the headlines, not the out of context quotes, his actual words, his debates, his heart, and then talk to someone you disagree with. 107 00:13:17,381.99546485 --> 00:13:23,51.99546485 Have a conversation not to win, but to understand. 108 00:13:24,26.99546485 --> 00:13:29,996.99546485 This was Charlie's deepest message and my new favorite quote by him. 109 00:13:30,836.99546485 --> 00:13:40,246.99546485 When people stop talking, really bad stuff starts when marriages stop talking, divorce happens. 110 00:13:40,606.99546485 --> 00:13:56,536.99546485 When civilizations stop talking, civil war ensues, and when you stop having a human connection with someone you disagree with, it becomes a lot easier to want to commit violence against them or that group. 111 00:13:57,91.99546485 --> 00:14:06,571.99546485 What we as a culture have to get back to is being able to have a reasonable disagreement where violence is not an option. 112 00:14:07,441.99546485 --> 00:14:08,221.99546485 Charlie Kirk. 113 00:14:09,871.99546485 --> 00:14:14,11.99546485 So we are on that edge, my friends, and it's not too late. 114 00:14:14,761.99546485 --> 00:14:18,331.99546485 Don't be just another post, don't be just another meme. 115 00:14:19,331.99546485 --> 00:14:20,951.99546485 Don't try to get likes. 116 00:14:21,941.99546485 --> 00:14:23,681.99546485 Be viral over this. 117 00:14:24,41.99546485 --> 00:14:25,751.99546485 Be a person of resolve. 118 00:14:26,321.99546485 --> 00:14:31,631.99546485 Learn how to defend what you believe without degrading someone else. 119 00:14:32,471.99546485 --> 00:14:33,761.99546485 Do your own research. 120 00:14:34,151.99546485 --> 00:14:35,771.99546485 Read the Constitution. 121 00:14:36,191.99546485 --> 00:14:37,481.99546485 Learn from history. 122 00:14:37,871.99546485 --> 00:14:39,611.99546485 Plato Aristotle. 123 00:14:39,641.99546485 --> 00:14:41,261.99546485 MLK, Reagan. 124 00:14:41,501.99546485 --> 00:14:42,941.99546485 JFK, Gandhi. 125 00:14:43,811.99546485 --> 00:14:48,11.99546485 Charlie did all of that and has inspired me to do more of it. 126 00:14:48,761.99546485 --> 00:14:53,81.99546485 And above all, stand firm in your values. 127 00:14:54,191.99546485 --> 00:15:07,661.99546485 Please let Charlie's death be the catalyst for a new generation of thinkers, feelers, debaters, and doers of people who live in integrity with what they say they believe. 128 00:15:08,351.99546485 --> 00:15:09,821.99546485 But most of all. 129 00:15:10,821.99546485 --> 00:15:17,481.99546485 Charlie believed in conversation, not shouting, not canceling, listening. 130 00:15:18,531.99546485 --> 00:15:20,211.99546485 Charlie Kirk wasn't perfect. 131 00:15:20,661.99546485 --> 00:15:34,641.99546485 No human is, but he was devoted to his family, to his God, and to his values, and in that devotion, he awakened something in millions. 132 00:15:35,871.99546485 --> 00:15:39,651.99546485 Us around the world and now it's our turn. 133 00:15:40,371.99546485 --> 00:15:43,431.99546485 Not to agree on everything, but to love anyway. 134 00:15:44,181.99546485 --> 00:15:47,421.99546485 To speak anyway, to listen anyway. 135 00:15:48,621.99546485 --> 00:15:54,531.99546485 So wherever you are, however you vote, whatever you think, ask yourself this. 136 00:15:57,216.99546485 --> 00:16:06,6.99546485 When we stop having a human connection with someone we disagree with, it becomes a lot easier to want to commit violence against that group. 137 00:16:07,356.99546485 --> 00:16:08,436.99546485 Charlie Kirk said that. 138 00:16:10,56.99546485 --> 00:16:14,31.99546485 So to those gloating, mocking, or spewing venom online. 139 00:16:14,831.99546485 --> 00:16:16,1.99546485 I say this with love. 140 00:16:16,541.99546485 --> 00:16:28,361.99546485 This is your moment to pause, to get curious, to examine why someone standing in faith and freedom triggered you so deeply. 141 00:16:29,231.99546485 --> 00:16:42,191.9954649 And to those who feel the ache like I do, this is our moment to carry the flame, not just for Charlie, but for truth, for freedom, for a better future. 142 00:16:43,466.9954649 --> 00:16:47,936.9954649 Let's not let this be another nine 11, another fleeting hashtag moment. 143 00:16:48,836.9954649 --> 00:16:53,996.9954649 Let it be a pivot point, a turning point, if you will, a rebirth. 144 00:16:55,106.9954649 --> 00:17:03,421.9954649 So what am I willing to stand for, even if I stand alone? For Charlie, for free speech, for love. 145 00:17:04,51.9954649 --> 00:17:05,311.9954649 I am not Charlie Kirk. 146 00:17:05,581.9954649 --> 00:17:21,451.9954649 I am Debbie Dobbins, and I vow to carry the legacy forward, the legacy of love, tolerance, and conversation with love, with discipline, and with my voice, and I hope you'll join me. 147 00:17:23,161.9954649 --> 00:17:24,451.9954649 This is Debbie Dobbins. 148 00:17:24,751.9954649 --> 00:17:25,531.9954649 I love you. 149 00:17:25,801.9954649 --> 00:17:30,1.9954649 Stay sovereign, stay kind, and stay in the knowingness. 150 00:17:30,1.9954649 --> 00:17:40,441.9954649 That light will shine through the darkness because when one man is taken too soon, thousands must rise. 151 00:17:41,641.9954649 --> 00:17:42,901.9954649 See, on the next episode.
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