Funny Story by Emily Henry (with Kirsten MacInnis)

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Welcome to Ready TV Romanced. I'm Tori.
And I'm Kirsten. And today we're discussing.
Funny story, I forgot about that.
It's OK, One time I forgot and Imade Cat my guest like do it
like three times. Like felt so bad.
But welcome back to the pod. I'm so excited to chat more

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Emily Henry with you. I'm so excited.
I'm glad to be here because I think you just don't get it and
you need to have like the correct person here to fight you
about it and maybe I'll be able to persuade you by the end.
That's so funny. OK, here's what I want to say.
Last time we chatted, we coveredon this podcast.

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We covered Book lovers, which I truly believe is in my like,
probably top three books that I've ever read.
Yeah, it's amazing. Maybe top five, but like 100%
like one of the book best books I've ever read and I like Emily
Henry. I wanna put that out there.
I wanna get my my main gripe andgrumble out here and then we can

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just enjoy the story. It's fine, like let's we can
fight about it right now, OK? Provide your gripe and grumble.
OK, I like Emily Henry. I have now read three of her
books. I will read speech read and I
will read Happy Place this spring.
With that being said, and I wantto say she I think she's an

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excellent writer. She's probably one of the only
writers that I've met or that I've read that I actually care
about her side characters because a lot of times or like
what they're doing, like when she's describing the lavender
lemonade that she's drinking, like I actually care.
Whereas like some books they're describing, you know, the the

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best and, or what they're eatingor where they are.
And I'm like, I actually don't care about this.
So I do think that that's a big feat.
I think she's an excellent writer in that sense.
What I will say is I think it's just her the overarching story
of the three books that I've read of hers are just like so

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formulaic and I'm not even talking about like trophy.
That's part of it, but they're just so I and like I will will
probably get cancelled for this and like what have I got to live
my truth? But it's just so like buttoned
up girl, laid back guy. She is so buttoned up and like

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set on her plans that she dates the wrong guy for a lot of years
and forgoes her own happiness. And then she meets a laid back
guy that shows her another way of life and he's like the X is
the perfect guy on paper. The the new romance is like a

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little bit of a wild card, but like not too much of A wild
card. And I wrote this in the notes,
but like, yeah, like the main character is just like an
uptight girl who just needs to be showed a beach, some fast
food and get laid. And like I literally I kind of
think that that is so many romance books and like, that's

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fair. I think that's a very, I think
like a lot of those, especially the female main character, I
think a lot of those things are very common for women.
Like I like looking for the guy that's good on paper, maybe has
plans that they push through even if it's not what's best for

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them or whatever and stuff like that.
Like I don't think that it's untrue.
It's just like I could list 1000books with this premise and I
just like which again, doesn't mean that this is bad or I
really enjoyed reading this. It's again, it's like probably
in my like top 50 bucks. I truly, other than the premises

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kind of average, I had an excellent time reading it. 10
out of 10 would recommend, but Ijust can't.
I just can't get over that, thatit's like it's just so it's so
it's like when we read 4th Wing and we're like, OK, Hunger Games
slash Acatar slash highlight or like like, do you know what I'm

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saying, like. You literally started a podcast
about romance novels. This is what romance novels are.
You're first of all, you're justmad that there isn't like an
overt, like, like super graphic sex scene.
And I think that if you went to the beach, had some fast food
and met a laid back guy, maybe you'd like him more because it

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seems like this is a personal problem.
I don't, I don't think it was. I thought like, I don't actually
think it was a sex scene. Well, I don't actually think.
I don't actually think that's part.
I'm just messing with you because we disagree on the quote
spice level of what we prefer inour.
Yes, I prefer spicier, you prefer more Roman, but that's
not the problem that I have withthis bug.

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I think it would be, it would have been insane if she slept
with Miles earlier because it would have seemed like revenge
sex versus when they do have sex, it's very sweet because
they've had this summer, yes, growth together.
Like on Beyoncé's Internet to belike, this romance novel has too
many collision. Like, that's the genre.

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And what I really love about Emily Henry the most is that she
can weave into, you know, the tropes and cliches of the
romance drama while also making the people feel real and the
conflict feel deep and make you feel so much emotion.
Like I, I feel like 10 years ago, the romance novel funny

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story would be so much shallowerand you wouldn't get the level
of feeling about, you know, Miles mommy issues and Daphne's
daddy issues and how, like how they're coping with those
complicated feelings. You wouldn't get how much they

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fall for each other before they finally sleep together because
it wouldn't just be like, they get revenge sex and then, Oh my
God, they actually like each other.
Like it's just she writes in thegenre and in the spirit of like
how the genre's always been, butshe subverts it a little bit.
I would say from the three that you've read, Book Lovers and

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Funny Story are her two best books by far in my opinion.
I think Beach Read is up there and like in contention for
number 2, like Beach Read and and Funny Story, you could
definitely switch it. For me, Happy Place is her worst
one. So you should get out of the way
because it's the worst one. I was like, because like there's
always miscommunication and romance novels, but in that one,

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like the miscommunication was just it felt laughable to me
that it would be that would actually happen like that.
I don't know. We'll see when you read it.
I'm probably not the best guest for that one because I didn't
really like that one much. I think that part of loving
romance is accepting what the genre is and loving when it is
able to grow within those parameters while also accepting

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it for for what it is. And I think that's also that's a
cold and it's February and you can't, like, it's hard to relate
to like, a cute, quaint summer town right now because it's so
horrible outside. But in just a few months, like,
Victoria is going to be just as quiet.
And I think it'll be like you ifyou read it again in the summer,

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you might like it better. Yeah, that's fair.
I like and I I don't think that she, I'm not even saying that
her books lack depth or anythinglike that.
I what I'm saying is I don't to distill all of what I just said
into one sentence. I just don't think that her act

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like the plot, like if you looked at the beginning, middle
and end, like the climax and thewhatever the parts of a story is
that we learned in grade two or three, of course.
But I think it's like if it's just not groundbreaking.
And I'm not saying that it has to be groundbreaking, but like
she's just lauded, lauded as like the best writer of not

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maybe not the best writer of ourgeneration in romance, but like
it's like all five of her books have been picked up for movies
or TV deals. She is like one must be the most
like best selling author, like top 10 best selling authors in
romance in the last couple years.
And I'm just, I don't know, it'sjust like the the premise of her

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stories, like none of it is likeexciting.
Like, I don't know, it just didn't like I wasn't like I was
never like, Oh my God, that likethis is something I've never
read before or this is like gripping me or something like
that, Which like again, like, I guess I'm I wasn't expecting
that, but it just, I don't know her like overall plot, like the
the kind of like jilted bride, jilted fiance meets the best

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friend or the best man or whatever the ex or like, I don't
know, it's just like it, it was her premises aren't anything
new, is what I'm trying to say. But is there a new premise?
How many people have shut this podcast?
Well, I mean, hopefully that they are here for me because I'm
with them. I just think if you're going

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into a romance novel being like,I need something groundbreaking
and new, like you'll be disappointed 99 out of 100 times
because there aren't really thatmany completely new ideas.
There's not really a, a romance novel that is totally subverting
the genre or like reinventing itor being different.

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And like, I don't think I would even want it if, if there was
like, I, I love the romance genre because of all of those
things, not in spite of them. And so I, I just can't relate
to, to the like, I understand the criticism.
I just don't relate to it at all.
Like I do like, like, I like that with a romance novel, I can

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expect like a happily ever after.
I like that you can kind of see where things are going and maybe
you're surprised by the third act breakup, but they get back
together and like stuff like that.
Like I do like that. I think it's why reading romance
is such a comfort, but I don't know, I just like for someone
who like people literally would lay, lay their lives down for

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this bitch. And I'm like, again, excellent
writer, but I just, I don't know, it's like.
I mean, you're you're allowed tonot love it.
You don't have to love it. Anyways, Emily Henry, I love
you. If you're listening, send me an
advanced reader copy of your newbook.
I can't wait. Like when Funny story came out.
Yeah, I had it order pre-orderedon Kindle.

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So it was on my phone, my like phone and my Kindle when I woke
up and I literally had to work that day.
And so I would like complete a task, read a chapter, complete a
task, read a chapter. I couldn't put it down.
I read it all in one day. I honestly my only quibble with
it. We'll get we'll get to at the
end. I'm excited.
I don't think you once you hear it, you're going to be like,

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you're stupid. Like this is not a good thing to
nimpick. And so I just the way I love how
she writes people and I love howshe writes dialogue and through
having read all of her novels, like she often does do like a
kind of enemies to lovers or like this is really they weren't
enemies. So it doesn't opposite track,

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but they're definitely oppositesattract or like not what you
would expect, but I love how quippy they both are.
Like there's so many moments in this book where I just laughed
out loud at one of the the linesthat they were saying.
And it's like like Miles is always like pretty funny, but I
feel like it even it like takes time for Daphne and like as she

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gets to know him, you can see her like get funnier as she gets
more comfortable over the courseof the novel, which I loved.
I love the idea of someone beinga librarian because they just
love it so much. And also it's like healing their
inner child being a lot of brain.
I feel like it's not easy. I feel like it's a lot of school
work. It's like a lot of school.

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It gets presented as this deeply.
It's like, serious. But people take it unseriously
as a career. Yeah.
When it's actually the people who become librarians are like
the heart is working like dopestamong us.
No, truly, I know. I know.
I do think people think it's like, frivolous, Yeah, like just
reading to children or somethinglike that.
But it's like it's cultivating imagination.

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It's stocking the fires of like,people's, like interests.
It's a free service to the community.
It's bonding time with your likeKaren or guardian or like it's
it's everything truly public libraries or everything.
I I truly don't have any problems with the actual book.
I just think it's like, I don't know.

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I would just be, I would be. What I would say to Emily Henry
is I would say, could you? You are such a great writer and
I love your characters and I love the depth of the characters
and I love that they seem like they are real people.
And I would say you are tried and true like 5 for 5A plus
books, but could you challenge yourself to do like a different,

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I don't know, something different?
I think I like I her new novel coming out is in the romance
genre still, but I'm getting thesense that it is going to be a
little bit different. I'm really excited for it.
I can't. It comes out in April.
April is always when Miss Emily Henry is providing her new book.
Nice. I can't wait.
My only real problem with her isplease just release them as

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fucking paperbacks in the 1st place.
I'm so and they need hard. Covers.
They used to launch as soft covers and then when Happy Place
came out, they started launchingexclusively as hard covers.
Or you could get a soft cover, but it was like the ultra big
text soft cover. And so like, it's not the same
size of book as all the other books.

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I like to own physical copies ofEmily Henry's books because I
love her and I want them to all be the same size.
So I don't even have a physical copy of Funny Story yet because
it's not out in soft cover yet. Or maybe it has come out
recently and I'm just like behind the times.
But it's annoying. I don't want to have to wait a
year to own the physical copy because I know I'm going to love
it. I know I'm going to want to
reread it a million times and now I have to own it in two

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ways. Because I don't want to have a
hardcover. I don't like hardcovers and get
stupid. Why do I have to pay so much
more money for a piece of fucking cardboard?
I'm sick of it. Like books are expensive now.
Why does softcover book cost $26?
I know, I know of a. Romance novel.
Come on. I know they're supposed to be
like $5 and under. That's the premise in one of my

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friends podcast. Yes, it doesn't even have to be
$5 and under but like I feel like it should be 1699 at most.
Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
And that goes for all books, notjust for my samples.
Well yes for all books. I'm not like I would pay more
for a speculative. Yeah, exactly.
I would pay $0.00 for that. Anyways, anyways, OK, what's the

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format of this show again? Let's recap the book.
So spoiler debate, spoiler learning.
We will be discussing a funny story.
It is written by guess who EmilyHenry.
It was published April 23rd, 2024 and it starts with this
huge lore dump from our main character Daphne.

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She is a 33 year old librarian. As we discussed, she is telling
us about how she met Peter threeyears ago when they lived in
Richmond. They had like a funny story of
how they met, where they lived in the same neighborhood.
She was going to the park. She loses her hat and it lands

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right in front of him, which is what happened with Penelope
Featherington and Colin Bridgeton.
But it it landed right in front of him.
But then I think it blew again, like it into the garbage can and
which she likes. To falls into the garbage she.
Falls into the trash, which I love.
And what I really love about this is like the way the book is
written is it's so perfectly bookended because it starts with

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how this is my neat cute of How I Met Peter.
And he tells the story story so well and he gets so many laughs
and he knows exactly how to tellit.
And I don't really know how to tell a story the way Peter tells
a story. But this is what happened.
And the end of the book in the epilogue, it's people who don't
know how she and Miles met. And he just like looked at her

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because he knows how much she loves to tell the story.
And it's like she can now speak for herself and share her own
experiences and feel confident in it.
And it's just like the perfect metric of how much Daphne grows
over the course of the novel. And maybe I cried when I
finished reading. You Get this Time.
And it wasn't even my first timereading it.
It's so cute and I was like thisis the true funny story that you

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are ex ex fiance's rather than ahat flying through a park.
Like a hat flying through the park is like definitely a story
that you could tell. But my husband Daphne's story is
much. Funnier, yeah.
It's like this is the story thatyou want to tell.
Yeah, and so Peter cheats on Daphne with his platonic female

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best friend at his bachelor party.
Which is crazy. Nasty work they like.
Pretty much jump into like a full blown relationship.
Like he and her move in togetherafter 5 weeks and they get
engaged within a year. Peter buys a house in his
hometown, Waning Bay, which is where the story takes place.

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Their wedding is supposed to be at the end of the summer but
it's his bachelor party and he cheats on.
You know, the girl that he tellsyou not to worry about like.
Literally. And of course.
OK, I have to say it now. Actually my biggest gripe with
this book is what are the fucking names?
Why is it Peter and Petra and Miles and Daphne is one letter

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away from being Niles and Daphnefrom fucking Frasier?
And like what? There are so many names in the
world. What are we doing?
Like it's like, how did we land on these names?
Daphne like really stood out to me as like, I guess it like it,
it matches her like in some sense.
I don't know. I don't know how they picked it.

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I just watched What a Girl Wantswhere Amanda Bynes is named
Daphne. So I was like, oh, I like this
and I love the name Miles. I will always love the name
Miles, Petra and Peter. I think it like works because
they're like both annoying and it seems like an annoying
couple's name like P&P. That's fair.
It's like, but it's like it's. It's almost the same name.

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Isn't Petra just like a female version of Peter I?
Have to assume I can't imagine what else it would be.
Yeah, so he comes home from his bachelor party, he goes BT dubs.
I'm calling off the wedding. I am actually in love with Petra
and because I own this house, itonly makes sense for Petra and I

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to move in here. So we're going to go, he just
says. We're going to go away for a
week so you can move out. And she goes, OK, cool, so I
moved here 13 months ago. I really know nobody like where
the fuck am I going to go? And that's when Miles shows up
at her door after being dumped by Petra.
And because he has an extra room, they decide to live

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together. It's.
No I love this because he shows up so upset because he's just
been literally dumped via a notefrom the.
Person he's been dating. Four years and lives with she
just like got all of her stuff out of their spare room, which
she used as a closet and I was like peace out bye.
I'm moving in with Peter now, like a truly insane behavior.

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And he shows up to be like, whatthe what the fuck?
Like, is she here? Is she here?
Is she Where is she? Because he doesn't even know
that they've left together at this point.
He got a note. Yeah.
Which is just like, again, it's genuinely so insane.
But then Gabby says they're gone, like they left together.

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And she goes, how many rooms yougot?
And I love it. This is pure practicality.
She doesn't know anyone in this town because she's been living
her whole life on Peter's routine.
And Peter's not even actually from here.
His family just moved here because they liked vacationing
here, which I really I like thatas well.
Showing, like, how much you can commit to a place and how

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different the experience can be.But yeah, so they live together
now, and she just has to make itthrough the summer to her
readathon event that she's been planning for the library, and
then she can leave. Which makes a lot of sense.
She loves working at the library, she loves her story
time, and she's been planning this really big event, which
like double S as a fundraiser for the library.
So she feels like she has to, like she's committed to it and

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she has to see it through beforeshe can leave.
This is what's crazy because it's like she literally has her
her dream job and she's like whatever, I'll just get out.
Yeah, but I get that too, cuz what else would be keeping her?
And now that she has the experience, she could find a
similar job at another library. So she it's like Fast forward

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three weeks. She's been living with Miles,
but they haven't really. They are just, you know,
roommates. They are kind of avoiding each
other. But one day she gets back from
work and Miles is distraught on the couch.
And he shows Daphne a piece of paper, which is a wedding
invitation to Peter and Petra's wedding, which is over the Labor

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Day weekend. Again, insane to send it to the
exes. Why would you want them there?
I don't know. I didn't.
Think like they, the way I understand it is like Peter and
Petra do not actually want Milesand Daphne at the wedding, but
they're both the type of person who is so obsessed with being
liked that they can't and and correct.

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Yeah. And that they they can't stand
the thought of there being two people out here who had a less
than satisfactory experience with them and maybe don't like
them. And so they're like, it's fine.
Everything will be fine. We'll just be friends after the
breakup and we'll force them into friendship.
We'll invite them to the wedding.
It like it'll be fine. And everyone will love us
because everyone has always loved us.

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Like just with the total delusional behavior of the two
people who would leave right after cheating being on their
partners to go away for a week and then decide to get married
and have some. Money to produce a wedding
invitation and book a location and stuff like.
That that's the craziest part, that they got a physical

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invitation so fast and like a venue.
And literally, Peter calls her the next day.
Miles and Daphne go out and get wasted after this and they go to
this bar and they get so, so drunk.
And then while they're drunk, they're like, let's RSVP to the
wedding. We're gonna go.

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Like they don't get to win. Like they think that they will
be too scared to go. They don't get to win.
So like RSVP yes and and. Then I guess they like.
Dropped the RSVP like in Peter'smailbox at his house because
otherwise it doesn't make any sense because then Peter calls
me like see RSVP like. You definitely don't have to go

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and Abby's like no, it's fine. Like I'm going and I'm bringing
my like new boyfriend and Peter's like you didn't complete
like for a + 1. She's like it's fine.
My plus one has an invite to like I'm dating miles No which
is. Truly, it's very my best
friend's wedding vibes. I love it.

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I would do this maybe. I wouldn't say it was about
miles. I do the same thing in this
situation. I'd be like, yeah, I'll be there
with my new boyfriend. I would definitely be like,
yeah, I'll bring the guy that, but I also was harboring
feelings for like, don't worry about me.
But don't worry, I was actually also having an emotional affair
throughout our whole relationship.
This is good though, because Daphne tells Miles and he's

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like, Oh yeah, we should totallydo this.
We should make them jealous and piss them off and go to their
wedding. We can like, get drunk and like,
eat their cake before they get to cut it, which is good
because, you know, like, sometimes when you're doing fake
dating, you have to do a little bit of convincing before you
sign the contract. Well and so much of fake dating

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books are also enemies to loversand it's like why on earth would
you have to be fake dating with someone you literally can't stay
like to? Me.
Yeah, like the fake dating isn'teven the most nonsensical part.
It's the why. Is it someone you hate?
No. That's so true.
And they're like immediately into the bit, like they take a

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cute little cuddly photo together and post it on social
media so they can piss off P. And Pi love it get get their
asses. Like we've been talking about,
Daphne doesn't really know anybody in Waning Bay, which
includes her Co workers that sheworks with at the library.
But there is a recent divorcee, Ashley, that's there, and she

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wants to go out. And so Daphne, like, decides
this is it. Like, I gotta change my whole
life. I can't be by myself.
Let's go out. And she chooses to go to Miles's
winery because she wants to impress Ashley.
And she knows that it's like Cherry Hill's the cool place.
She knows the wine is good and like the other thing too is that

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you can't overstate enough. Miles has like a cool vibe.
I picture him as like Jake Johnson in New Girl as Nick but
like early season It is kind of the vibe I get except for Miles
does actually have his life pretty together, it just seems
like he doesn't. Yeah, yeah.
Peter has been like slandering him.

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Yeah, and it's like so funny. Like him not put together is
like him smoking weed occasionally and not putting his
his schedule on the calendar. Like that was him being like a
mess. Like he's a normal man and
Daphne's like, well, I heard youwork odd jobs because Peter is
cool. We always hated him because he

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was with Petra. And so it's like, I feel like
she just keeps putting her foot in her mouth.
But he just like, he has a beardand he is like is a bit of a
free spirit, but he's a normal guy with a real job.
It's just not like a corporate job.
No, I know I was like kind of get over yourself cuz it's like
he just, he's like I felt bad when I was like, oh, you're a

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bartender And he's like, well, I'm not just a bartender.
Like I also buy for the company,like like the food and
ingredients and stuff like that.Yeah.
He's like you don't have to defend if you are a bartender.
Like that is also totally OK. Yeah.
It's. Also just a totally normal job
that people have. I wonder what is like does Petra
not work? I don't understand cuz she's
also like supposed to be like really flighty and can't make up

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her mind. Petra to me was so Peter and
Petra are obviously really rich.And I think that Petra was like,
because Daphne describes Miles as like he is his free spirit,
but that like is representative of like his core being where
Petra was kind of like a poser. And I kind of see her like being

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like a rich kid neppo baby that like doesn't have to have a job
and is just like trying on like hipster because OK, OK, it's
like the cool thing to do. That makes sense, I guess.
Yeah, she doesn't need a job. She's loaded.
OK, sorry, I've sidetracked her.That's OK, so they go to the
bar, they have a good time. Miles is joking that they are

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girlfriend boyfriend and so theylet her Ashley in on the plan.
But by the end of the night, Ashley, well is a impressed with
Daphne, likes her and B finds a guy to go home with.
So Miles and Daphne end up leaving together And while
they're leaving this and this islike obviously my favorite part

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of the book, not the fast food part, but that he says to her
because it's hot. It's happened to him.
He moved to waning Bay for a girl.
He's like, have you been to likethis?
This would be like me if it was Victoria like.
Have you been to Beacon and he'll drive in?
And I'd be like, yes, let's go right now immediately, because

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you and I are two fast food girlies.
Let's be clean. Totally.
But he's like, have you been to a big Louie's?
It's like the local fast food place.
And she's like, no, I've never done this because Peter eats
like a rabbit and hasn't really taken me anywhere.
And so he ends up taking her andthey get like some fries and a

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milkshake and then they go to the beach.
She's like, oh, isn't the beach closed?
And I'm like, shut up. What kind of narc is like oh the
beach is closed? Sometimes she was like when she
takes one puff of weed and then she's like acting like I was
like I was like, girl, you do kind of need to chill a little.
Bit but like, she really do be alibrarian, yeah.

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It's so, it's so funny, but she doesn't know where the beach is,
which is concerning. And he is like really joking
that like, how can you have lived here for that this long
and you don't know where this like landmark.
Is, well, she only knows where like, the public beach where all
the tourists go is like. Which is the library spot.

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And I'm like, bitch, you live onthe coast, Surely you should
recognize that there are severalbeaches along the coast.
Like, are you not a librarian? Are you stupid?
Now I feel like that to me was the most like stark concern with
Daphne as a person. I also think one other plot hole
was just like she seems like thegirl that would like go to a

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farmers market and like go to a lavender farm to get like
supplies to make like a craft orsomething.
And was she? Trapped in the house.
That I know, that's what I'm saying.
Like I get that she wouldn't know that like a fudgy meant
that she's an out of towner and stuff like that.
Like I get that she wouldn't know like the local lore but

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like I feel like she would know some of the beaches and like
where to get a Chai latte. I don't know, I think Peter had
her locked in the house. I think she was forcibly
confined. She wasn't allowed to go
anywhere by her. Like it seems like it was very
much their lives were super scheduled and it was all
together. Like they'd go to work, then
they'd go to the gym together, then Peter would make them

(31:39):
dinner, then they'd watch TV, then they would have missionary
sex for 2.5 minutes and then they would fall asleep.
And then that was like their whole life every single day.
And so there was no room to explore.
And because Peter's not actuallyfrom Waning Bay or like
connected to it, he would never think, oh, let me take her to

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the farmers market because she doesn't cook.
He cooks, right? So it's like, it's just like she
let her world be so small just to like fit with his schedule of
what he thought was right. And it kept her from all of the
cool things in the town enjoying.
Life like truly. So he suggests that he can be
her tour guide and take her out every Sunday so she can get a

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feel for the place to see if shetruly wants to find another job
somewhere else or if she wants to stay.
And I really like that. Like, that's really kind.
And I think that this is something that we see throughout
the book is that Daphne is like,oh, you don't have to do that.
And then when she's like, OK, you can do that, it's because
you're nice. And he's like, no, like, I want

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to do it because I like you. And like, like, I don't know.
She's always doubting the reasons why he wants to take
care of that, basically. And the other thing too is it's
a we, we meet her dad later in the book and like her dad and
Miles are both super charming and everybody loves them.
And so she sees Miles as like disingenuous or only doing

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things to be nice because she islike never understood the true
motives behind why her dad does things.
And I think it's like there's a few points where it's like
pretty overt, but she never takes him out his word.
Which is fair, like the male figure in her life wasn't
reliable and when he would do stuff for her like take her to

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the library, it was like to hit on the librarian, not because
she actually liked going to the library.
So a week passes and Miles comesto Daphne's library, and it's
during story time, and he's really impressed by her acting
skills. And he says, tomorrow we're
going shopping. And so when Sunday rolls around,

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he takes her to a vegetable stand, and then they go to a
cherry stand. And he knows all these places
'cause he does the buying for Cherry Hill.
He takes her to a lavender farm,and everything's really, really
good. Great, even until they spot
Peter. Yeah.
And Gator's at the. Lavender Farm where he literally
never took that to me and now he's there.

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Exactly. That's fucked.
Up to me. That's actually so fucked.
Up like I would have been pissed'cause it's like, oh, maybe he
also didn't know about these places.
It's like, Oh no, he went, he just didn't care to take you
ever. Like that's so crazy.
Peter is like can I talk to you Daphne for a second?
And he's like don't hang out with Miles.
Like he is such a mess. He doesn't even like stay in

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touch with his family. And she's like you are a fucking
loser. So she walks back to Miles and
his truck and kisses him, which she does ask him.
She says let's like kiss in front of him.
And this was crazy because he gets a boner and I was like,
babe, you're at a lavender farm.It's like 1:00 PM and you'd

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kissed for like 10 seconds. He tries to go in for like a.
Little light, little a little pack.
And she's like, let me attack him.
Yeah. Very aggressively, sexually.
And so he's like taken off guardby that.
Yeah. And then it like, takes her a
second to Orient herself to what's happening.
And then by the time she's kind of like, figured out where she
is in the world, he's like, OK, I'm gonna kiss you for real.

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Yeah. And then it's like this like
beautiful, passionate, like, like they clearly have had this
chemistry that they've been sharing.
But then it becomes like a physical thing.
And she's so taken aback. And then he gets a little boner
and I'm like, oh, they like eachother.
Like I think that's cute. Like it's not like he was like,

(35:37):
let me like I read. No, no, I don't think he.
Did anything crazy I I think that cute at like 1:00 PM on
Saturday if if I was sharing a passionate.
Kiss with someone at 1:00 PM on a Sunday in a parking lot at a
lavender farm, and they didn't at least get a half fee.
I'd be like, oh, he doesn't evenlike me.

(35:58):
That's fair. Yeah.
You're right. She wasn't like he was like
fully erect. He like, he wasn't like rhyming,
like I read a book. Like one of the Lila Sage, like
rebel rebel ranch bugs. Yeah.
And there's a scene where it's like this couple literally makes
out for the first time and she'slike, fuck me in your truck.
I don't feel like it wasn't likethat.

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So I think it's. It's crazy work like.
True. It's no, it's literally those
books are so cute and such like sweet slow burns and then all of
a sudden it's like extremely graphic sexy and I'm like, this
is fine, but also like, can you read the room, please?
Why is this man dropping the C word?
Oh my. God, that's crazy.

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Yeah. So anyway, anyways, yes.
So that night, they and I, this is one of my favorite dates, is
going to like a food market getting a bunch of ingredients
and then going back home making dinner.
And they, that's what they do. Daphne, she kind of, she doesn't
want to say this, but she ends up like telling Miles what Peter

(37:04):
said about his family. And he gets like, visibly upset.
So she comforts him and they almost kiss again, but the
asparagus is burning. So like they're pulled out of
that. Yeah.
Because they're making. An asparagus salad when that is.
That is in my grapes and grumbles is so it's like an
asparagus salad, like warm, but I think their grape was the.

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Cherries, but they very clearly are eating the cherries while
they prepare the salad and the cherries, they're like a
separate thing. I don't think the cherries are
in the salad. I don't think they're in the
salad. But I think that what dish, if
you ate a asparagus salad, what cherry dish would make sense
other than a dessert? Well, I don't think that there
is a cherry dish. I think that he just like, I
think all the farmers markets are like close to each other.

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So it didn't make sense to do a separate trip for cherries and
asparagus. So they're just like, she even
says, like they eat the cherrieswhile they're making this salad
that is just. Asparagus, but yeah, I don't
understand. What's what's in the salad?
Why wouldn't you just like, eat asparagus next to like another
food? Like it's it's weird to me that

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they didn't get. Yeah, like some local fish or
like a steak or or like a baked potato.
There would always be more food with it.
Unless I'm at home being like a raccoon eating a whole Costco
size pack of asparagus and one sitting by myself.
That's fair. Yeah.
It's like the. Only time I eat asparagus is
when I'm cooking it as like a side.
So another week passes. Davini is still thinking about

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her kids with Miles. That weekend, they go Dune
bugging, which is so fun. I've always wanted to do that in
the sand. And the week after that, they do
another similar date where they go do a farmer's market and then
pick up ingredients for pizza. And they've been doing movie
nights where they, like, make dinner together and then watch a

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movie because Petra didn't like action movies.
They end up making out, like, hardcore making out.
He like, fingers her. Yeah.
It's like they start watching watching the.
Action movies together because they have like too much sexual
tension after the first kiss at the lavender farm.
And so then it's very funny to you that yeah, no shit.

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If you watch a movie together every single night, eventually
shenanigans are gonna literally Netflix and chill is a thing for
literally. Literally shenanigans and sue.
But it gets interrupted because he's getting calls, repeated
calls on his phone and he realizes it's from his sister.
And he's like, oh shit. Like she wouldn't call us many
times if there wasn't something wrong.

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When we find out that my sister Julia said hi, I'm moving in,
I'm leaving Chicago, come pick. Me up, which is wild.
He's 13 years older than her, she's 23, but he feels like a
sense of responsibility for her because of how their upbringing
was with his mom being like a nurse.

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Crazy a crazy. Person I, I, again, I can't
diagnose, but I think that probably because the vibe that
we get when he finally shares about the childhood, which I
feel like we can just say now, yeah, is like his mom was always
really charming with people. Everyone really liked her.
But what was going on behind thescenes was that you were only

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loved as much as you could, likebolster her reputation.
And if you ever made her look bad, it would be like World War
three in the house. And so everyone would just
appease her and walk on egg shells in order to avoid causing
problems. The point where like, she would
send Miles to school really sickbecause she would say, oh, no,

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you're faking it to make me lookbad so you can stay home.
So no, you have to go to school.And he would like quietly throw
up in the bathroom so that no one would know, so that he
wouldn't get sent home and make his mom look bad.
It's so sad. Do.
You have you watched the bear? I have watched the bear.
OK, because it reminded. Me, a little bit of Carmi and
Sugar's mom. That is the perfect.

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Comparison. I didn't put that together while
I was reading, but no, that's, that's 100% it.
And how it's like you get the occasional good moment with her
and then every, like the second something goes wrong, everything
falls apart totally. Yeah.
It's it's such a tough way to live and I think a lot of people

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gas like themselves into thinking it's not that bad.
But obviously you can see that it's really affected both Julia
and Miles and how they show up for their partners 100% and also
what's. What I would say is equally
fucked up is how their dad wouldjust, like, be gone all the time
for work to avoid it. Yeah.

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So like, you're going to leave your two children defenseless in
a home with like an abusive narcissist so you don't have to
deal with it to keep the peace? I don't think so.
So the next Saturday, Julia and Miles go to story time, and
Julia is equally impressed. And Miles shaved off the breakup

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beard so he's looking hot and all the library moms are
noticing. Yeah, when he has a beard.
Old ladies love him, but when hedoesn't have a beard, young
ladies love him because he's so handsome and he has a really
chiseled jawline. But what's interesting too is
like, it seems like the jawline is news to Daphne as well.

(42:25):
And they definitely would have socialized in the context of
like being partners. To like best friends.
So I'm like, was the beard even a breakup beard or did he just
always have the beard and his sister kind of made him shave
it? Maybe he had like.
Stubble and he just threw it outmaybe after Petra dumped him.

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That was another kind of wonder why that I had is like how were
Petra and Peter able to be so close and Daphne basically never
interact with Miles? I well I get.
The sense that like Daphne wouldbe in a room and she would just
be like looking at Peter, like he's the son and like her life
revolves around him and she's kind of blind to what's going on

(43:08):
around them. Yes.
And because Peter was so negative towards Miles and
didn't think he was good enough,I feel like that she would have
just agreed with Peter. I mean, like, why would I bother
to associate with this person because he's like not even good
enough. Yes, yes, and.
I feel like Peter was like kind of instilling those like, yeah,
like he's like a blue collar worker, whatever, like a service

(43:30):
industry worker and like he smokes and stuff like that.
And that's like not what we're about.
We live clean. We go to the gym and we eat
keto. Can you imagine dating someone
living with someone who's like. We eat clean 100% of the time
and we will never have a cheat meal and we go to the gym every
single day. I kill myself.

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I can't imagine. It because I would never be
friends or or date a person likethat.
People can imagine what if you were.
Dating someone, you move in together, you love them and then
all of a sudden they become likea keto no, no cheat days.
I would be like babe. Let's get you actually into
therapy, I mean. I would be secretly eating

(44:11):
Burger King in my car on my way home.
No, that I would send. Me back into like an Ed spiral.
Like truly literally. Anyways, that Sunday, Miles and
Daphne go sunrise kayaking because Petra didn't like to
wake up early. And this is like super fun also
because I also love doing this with a partner or a friend.

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But like when you're on like a group excursion, there's always
like the two annoying people that you can talk shit about.
That's the case for them. But they end up kayaking.
And Daphne is a lot slower than the rest of the group.
And Miles obviously, like hangs back and she's like, you don't
have to do that. Like, I can catch up and like,
like, go ahead and stuff like that.
And he's like, no, like, I, I amOK going at this pace.

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And this is when I was, like, tearing up because she was
talking about how when she wouldgo on like a hike and stuff like
that with Peter, he would like, charge ahead and go by himself
and like, leave her in the dust.And she would like.
Be out of breath because she wasn't as fit as him.
And like I feel like she, I don't know if this is actually

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explicitly said or if this is like my own shit getting in the
way of reading it. But to me it was like oh and
she'd like be super out of breath but she felt like she
needed to hide it because she was embarrassed because she
wasn't as strong as him and couldn't keep up with him and he
would just leave her. Which is crazy because I do not
get the sense of Daphne as a hike girl.
Like she was going for Herman. She is 10 toes down.

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She says that's my man, my man, my man and I'll do anything he
asks and he's like OK, BRB, I'm going to leave you in the dust.
It's so weird. It's so weird because it's like,
why wouldn't you just go by yourself if you don't want to
wait for somebody? Also I have a theory.
Back to what we were talking about before, I'm assuming that
they were doing all kinds of activities at the time when

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Miles would have been working atthe winery.
And so, like, it was probably a lot of Peter, Petra and Daphne
hanging out without Miles because he didn't work like nine
to five hours, right? Right.
And then she would be at the library during the day.
Yeah, that makes sense. That's a good theory.

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Emily Henry I. Know you're listening to tell us
if we're right. Not listening at this point, No,
I mounted a passionate defect, but we.
Get a little bit more of the Julia lower dump and basically
Miles still doesn't know why she's here but he knows that
something's up because she wouldn't have come here if

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something wasn't. And it's really cute because
obviously they talk about their exes a lot together.
At this point they make a littlebet.
The first person to mention their ex gets pushed in the
water and Daphne mentions Peter so he dumps her in the water and
then they're like swimming together and she tips.

(47:02):
His kayak over 2 and then they make out in the water I think.
I think so or they at. Least they want to cuddle or
whatever when you're holding someone in the water.
And then that night they get together with Julia and Ashley
and they go to a bar called Barn, which sounds super fun.
We're just seeing that like basically it's like, oh, Daphne,

(47:24):
if she stayed here, she could befriends with Julia, Miles and
Ashley and like have her own kind of life here, which is
really cute. She does get a sunburn Girl.
You can never forego SPF to lookcool in front of a man.
She's like I I'm. I'm like, not a cool girl

(47:45):
because I need to reapply SPF every 30 minutes and, and Miles
is like, yeah, but like it's notvery cool when you have like
Melanoma like 30 years in the future or whatever.
And she goes, no, no, no. Cool girls never face the
consequences of their actions. And Miles they do.
Ariana likes. And miles goes.
Oh I just realized I'm a cool girl which I thought that was

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like 1 of like the funniest moments and like I laughed out
loud. I think of that one.
Me too, me too. I have really.
Liked that, but yeah, never you guys listening never forego
sunscreen for any reason. It's the way that.
Sometimes I'm bad and don't, no,don't.
I'm getting better. I've gotten.
So much better in the last like 2 years.

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Me too. Like I've only been good at
sunscreen for like 5 years. Like truly it's fine.
We're all. Working on it together.
We're I'm literally just a girl.OK, few days.
Pass It's the following weekend.Miles asks her to go to a
concert, but she's like, oh, I feel like we need to like, set
some boundaries because I do feel like things are starting to

(48:48):
heat up. So she kind of declines but then
ends up accepting. And he won't really tell her
what the concert is. But they pull up to the Waning
Bay Historical Society Senior Prom, which is a fundraiser
dance for seniors, not high school seniors.
I love it. This is such a good.
Idea. It's really.

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It's sweet. Why doesn't this exist in?
Victoria, BC, we have. We've got the seniors.
Yes, no, truly. And this is even better cuz I
it's a fun date idea. But the part that's really sweet
is that he knows that the readathon is a fundraiser and
that requires sponsors and he's like, there's a bunch of rich

(49:31):
boomers here. I think it would be a good
networking opportunity for you. So she's feeling great until P&P
walk through the door. Those bitches.
They chat with Daphne and Miles for a little bit.
It kind of gets heated. Peter calls her like debt.
Well, he doesn't use the word dowdy.
She does but like basically calling her dowdy.
It's no because so. The whole thing too is like she

(49:54):
in this book she has like 1 nicedress or engaged.
On party with. Peter and she keeps where she
like wears it to the winery and then she wears it to the prom
because she's like, I don't haveanything else nice.
You can't afford to go to a boutique.
Do not tell me Winning Bait doesn't have an adorable
boutique like Be so for real, especially when you're going.
Out to all these events with miles and also it is a black

(50:16):
like backless dress and I was like I feel like Daphne's the
type of girl that would have to her engagement party wore in
white a black backless. Dress to a casual winery.
Drinks is insane. Insane.
Literally insane. I know cuz I'm, do you remember
Meghan Markle's For some reason,I was picturing Meghan Markle's

(50:39):
reception dress where it's like a high neck, but then backless.
And so yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. And so I was picturing that, but
black and shorter kind of. So I was like, that is truly
insane to go to like a like kindof rustic winery.
But it does make sense for the prom and like it, it's fine.
Enough for an engagement party. But you're so right.

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Like, you'd think that, like, generally speaking, people wear
white when they're the bride forlike, all of the events.
Yeah, living up to it. I don't know.
And so basically like Miles is always like, I love how like
conservative you dress because it's like a secret, whereas
which is like, it's like cute, but also Loki gave me the egg.

(51:21):
It's I think. It's cute because because I
think he admires it and I think it's so opposite of him.
But I do agree that like that could be a little like a little
slut shame. Like, OK, girls that don't
button up, they're not hot, they're not a.
Well, they're not hot mystery because there's no mystery to

(51:42):
worry, obviously. But yeah, like, I don't think
that's what he meant, which is why it's ultimately fine.
But it did like give me a low but he but basically like Peter
shames her clothes and then Miles is like, I think she's
sexy. I've always had a thing for hot
librarian, like, she says, like the perfect thing to kind of
reassure her, she says. And.
I've always had a thing for hot roommates.

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I was like, that's such a good comeback because he's like, and
you had a thing for bartenders and she goes, no, she's like,
Oh, no, hot roommates. Though it's so good.
And then he's like. Miles is like, I gotta go dance
with my girl. And they do a big passionate
kiss and he, like, sets it up ina way that's like, OK, I'm going
to turn you so you are like, facing Peter and then we're

(52:25):
going to kiss and blah, blah, blah.
Yeah. Because she's like, oh.
Whatever, like Peter is such a Dick and like he needs to worry
about like his own good life. And Miles is like, no, he's
literally standing on the side of the dance floor watching his
dance right now. And so I'm going to get turn you
and kiss you and then you're going to look to the left and
you're going to see that he's standing there waiting for you.
I was like, OK, this is James Bond now.

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It was really. Like Suave and they do have a
passionate kiss, but in the middle she runs away and he
chases her. She involves and he kisses her
again. I don't want to play this game
anymore where we are kissing to make Peter and Petra jealous.

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And he's like, no, I actually just want to kiss you all the
time. Just sometimes it's easier to
have an excuse. This is so cute.
It's so cute. I love it so much.
Also her like being literally like a runaway bride in that
moment is so fitting because I feel like if you ask Peter how
Daphne takes her eggs it would just be however he takes his

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eggs. Like for sure one hundo.
Time marches on, we're in July now and Daphne is still looking
for jobs even though like she is.
Her desire to leave Waning Bay is kind of fading but she sees a
posting for a children's librarian job near her mom so
she decides to apply for it. That weekend she has a girls

(53:57):
night with and honestly fuck Julia and Ashley for doing this
to her. This is crazy.
Crazy, crazy work, but they are having.
A girl's name and Julia is looking for places to put her
stuff because she has decided tosurprise, surprise, Stan Waning
Bay and not go back to Chicago. So she's looking.

(54:19):
She shipped all of her stuff without even talking.
To Miles or Daphne. And like, it's kind of annoying
that they're like, oh, well, she's 23.
It's like that's still so disrespectful like.
I would also like that's a little like it is your little
sister just showed up and like mailed her stuff and was like
I'm moving in. What would you really?
Oh. No, no, I wouldn't say anything.

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But they like he. It's like, I, I get that.
But then it's like, then she should probably tell them what's
going on. Yeah.
And. One, I think it's the the thing
where like if Miles just asked, I think she would actually just
tell him, but they're dancing around.
It it's like the. Fucking 4th wing thing of like,
you just have to ask the right questions and I'll tell you

(55:03):
anything. So bad but it's like how they're
living their whole lives. Yes true.
So she is putting her boxes in closets when Daphne's wedding
stuff, including her wedding dress, falls out.
It's like she. They have this closet that is so

(55:23):
crowned, full of wedding stuff that if you open it wrong,
everything will tumble out. And we're supposed to believe
that Julia's never opened this closet, which is crazy.
And they're like, OK, well, you have to try on the dress.
We want to see it. And then as she is struggling to
put on a wedding gown, which is not a garment that you put on
without assistance. No, you believeable people.

(55:45):
They leave to get. Milkshakes.
No, they take a. Cab, but that was the weirdest
part like they took like an Uberan Uber they called an Uber and
got picked up yeah well cuz I think.
That they were drunk, right? That's why they couldn't drive,
right? But like, why would they not be
like, OK, come out in the dress and then we'll get.

(56:06):
It and then we'll. All go get milkshakes together.
Like what are why are you leaving her behind?
Why they didn't go hey? While you put that on, we're
gonna pop out to the store for 5minutes.
We'll be right. I think they were like.
Maybe yelling it through the door and she like heard that
they were talking but couldn't hear what they were saying.
And so she's like gonna come outand be like, what's up?
But they just did not have like common courtesy to even just

(56:28):
wait for her to walk out before they made a choice.
Like just they asked. Her they they're like you, they
made. Her she did not even want to put
on the dress and they made her and so she puts on the dress and
she comes out and then Miles is the only one there and then so
she sees her in the wedding dress, which is like, oh sexy I

(56:48):
I actually this. Is one.
This is a micro trope I actuallylove.
It's always like the main characters like trying on
lingerie or like a sexy dress ora wedding dress or something
like that, and then the other protagonist walks in on them and
they see them in a new light. Or whatever.
Like and what I love more than. Anything is that she's literally

(57:10):
stuck in the gown and she can't get this in her and they have to
like heave ho like trying to gether out and he has to like Lube
up the zipper with chapstick andhe has her like bend over the
dresser to like get it out. And so there's all this like
sexual tension between them as well while he's getting her out
of the wedding dress. And then he like gives her one

(57:32):
of his T-shirts to wear. And so it's like he she can keep
it as long as she wants, but like just make sure to give it
back. It's just one of those sweet
mom. I I love the fact that he had to
lubricate the zipper and then they're like, we can never talk
about this again. Thanks for looping.
Three weeks pass and. She has been ignoring a bunch of
calls from her dad and he shows up at her house.

(57:53):
He is with his new wife, Starfire.
It's very Billy Ray Cyrus and who's his ex-wife like God.
It's also it's like star yes flame.
I remember off the top of my head that you're so right.
But the nice thing at least is this is the first age
appropriate girlfriend slash wife that her dad has ever had.

(58:17):
Because normally it would be like younger than her or the
same age as her, which is a nightmare and so.
He's with his new wife, he seemshappy.
She's age appropriate and he books a motel for their stay.
So she's like, OK, maybe like hedidn't.
And he tried calling me. So it's like, maybe this is it.

(58:39):
This is the time where he is grown up, he's matured and he
wants to be a dad. Oh, Daphne.
I know they. Spend the weekend together, they
go on an old pontoon and they goswimming in the lake.
And her dad is sharing all thesestories about Daphne's
childhood, but they all don't align with how Daphne remembered

(59:05):
them. And this is like starting to be
like really triggering for her because you can just tell that
her dad has no idea the impact that he has had on her.
Like he's. Like, oh, don't jump in.
Like, don't be scared to jump in.
Like, I know you're scared of fish.
And she's like, what are you talking about?
And he, like, tells a story about how they went fishing
together that she has no recollection of.

(59:28):
And then he talks about taking her to the library because he
would always buy her books. But it would be like the first
in this series or worse, the second in this series.
And then the mom was like, you have to stop buying her books
because then I have to buy the remainder, the rest.
Of the series. And like we don't have a budget
for that because like, I'm a literally a single mom who's

(59:48):
also supporting you financially.So stop using my money to buy
more books that we can't afford.And so that's why he would take
her to the library which that. That blew me away.
I know it's. So it's so sad.
That is kind of giving her the like, like the pause and
consider. But otherwise things are going

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really well. And she's really trying to hold
on to that so well that Julia even invites them to go to
Daphne's story hour the next day.
So I guess this is the Friday. At one point during the dinner
after their big adventure at thelake, Daphne's just getting
really overwhelmed. So she goes to the bathroom and
Miles follows. And he calms her down.

(01:00:34):
Like, she's able to kind of explain why she's upset.
And he's like, we can totally leave if you want to.
But she's like, no, I'm going tolike, stick it through.
And actually this was the funniest moment for me in the
book. When she's like, OK, I'll just
like, I just need a minute in the bathroom.
And then he's like, no, you should only take a minute for

(01:00:54):
the bathroom because the guy that just came out did something
like ungodly in there, somethinglike that.
I was laughing so hard. Not the bathroom.
Humor getting you? Oh my goodness, it really.
Did and this is. The hotel that her dad had
booked is literally like Roach motel bed bug central.
And so they literally have to come stay in the two-bedroom

(01:01:17):
apartment. And so Daphne sleeps in Miles
bed, Miles sleeps on the couch, Julia sleeps on an air mattress
in Miles bedroom, and then Daphne's dad and Starfire stay
in her bed. Which like OK sure.
This is an insane amount of people for what seems to be
really a one bedroom plus den. Like it seems like Daphne's
bedroom is small 100%. Because they share a bathroom.

(01:01:41):
So it's a, it's like a, it seemslike a one bedroom plus den, 1
bathroom apartment. Yeah, I guess maybe a 2.
Bed 1 bath but like the second bedroom is meant to be in
office. Totally.
It's the. Next day, Daphne's very excited
for them to come to story hour, but Miles shows up unexpectedly

(01:02:01):
alone. And she's like, OK, so my dad
bailed and she's really, really upset.
But she's like, hey, I just gotta like get through this
story hour. And she's kind of rude like a
fair enough, like I would I would have been a see you next
Tuesday. But she's like kind of rude to

(01:02:22):
him. But she just like muscles
through story hour. And then later that night, she
asks Miles if he could take her somewhere she's never been
before. And then she does apologize and
say, sorry, I was being bitchy. I just like obviously had
expectations and hopes that werejust dashed.

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He ends up taking her to a beachand it's like the best beach.
The first beach they went to wasthe second best beach.
Yeah, cuz he's he's. Like I can't take you to the
first beach. So like I don't want it to get
crowded. Like not everyone can know about
that one. So they go to like his favorite
beach and they, I guess, go swimming in their underwear and
then they it's on. It's on it this.

(01:03:03):
This is so sweet. They're driving home with like,
wet hair and stuff like that, and he just puts his hand on
because he has a truck that's only like the one seat.
Like very. It's a badge.
Bench seat. Yeah, bench seat.
I don't know why I'm making too many references, but it's Jacob
from Twilight with his bench seat truck.

(01:03:25):
Or I guess Bella has the bench. Well, yeah, that's Bella's
truck. Because he has a Volkswagen
Rabbit and he rebuilt like what are you a fake fan?
Oh my God, like you know what? How he gave.
Her like Billy gave her the truck, but yeah, it's Bella's
bunch seat and he puts his hand out on and then he like she
holds it and then they get to their house and he immediately

(01:03:48):
kisses her and he's like, are you like, do you want to have
sex basically? And she's like, defo, everything
has been bleeding up. Don't I'm gonna literally die.
Literally. So they have sex in the kitchen,
very sexy. She's like laid out on the

(01:04:09):
counter and then he turns her like they're standing up and he
like turns her around and then they're having sex on the floor
where? Was Julia again?
I was wondering. Thank you.
I was. Wondering you're a shaved pig.
Like they were just fine. If Julia came home and walked
in, I in the. Kitchen the next day it's like,

(01:04:29):
Oh my ass was just there well, I'm sure they.
Disinfected it. Daphne seems like the type that
she would be Lysol in every surface.
No, that's very true. But yeah, that was my one thing.
I was like, I'm I guarantee you that in that chapter it explains
the way where Julia is, but I didn't store.
That in the old. Memory Palace Either time I read

(01:04:51):
the book, neither I. Guess they've they've connected
and Miles feels like he can tellher about his childhood that we
talked about earlier about how his mom and dad were.
And then kind of we hear that what happened was that Julia got
in touch with her father and then Julia told her mother, no,

(01:05:17):
the dad, no, the dad told like, where to find.
Her and the mom showed up at herwork and got her really upset
and then she walked out of work,lost her job and was like hey
bye, I'm going to Chicago. Oh, no, I'm going to Waning Bay.
I'm leaving Chicago. Miles is like, I'm really sorry
about your dad. Daphne's like I just like, you
know, it happened with my dad. It happened with Peter.

(01:05:37):
Like I just can't like I'm not worth these men, I guess.
And he's like, it's like. It's so weird because she's
like, OK, I'll never have expectations of anyone ever.
And then Miles is like, well, noone should have expectations of
me because I will always disappoint them.
And then they both like, lean into having expectations and

(01:05:59):
disappointing each other in the dumbest, yeah.
That's fair, but he explains that she can see how who they
really are and they don't like that kind of transparency, so
that's why And never works out with them.
They end up having a really fun weekend.

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It's Monday. Daphne has to head off to work,
and she, like, immediately realizes that she was supposed
to paint Ashley's house with heron her birthday and she
completely missed it because herdad derailed story hour.
And then she ended up, you know,getting together with Miles, and

(01:06:45):
it was her. Idea to paint the room.
Ashley was like, I'm not doing shit for my birthday and Daphne
was like, no, we will do it. I will paint.
I'm really good at the cutting in part because Ashley's like,
of course you are you freak. I'm not good at the cutting in
part. And she just totally forgot
because she never wrote it on the calendar, which is not like

(01:07:07):
her, which I guess is how you know that Daphne's life is
falling apart. She missed putting something on
the cow totally, and so she's. Like, I'm so sorry.
Like I completely forgot something happened to my dad and
then Miles and blah, blah, blah.And she's like, yeah, that's
fine. I could always tell that you
were a wee girl. Like you kind of cling to one

(01:07:29):
person at a time, and now that you have miles, you don't need
me, which is like what A. Absolutely cutting insult, but
also exactly what Daphne needed.No, it's like it's so.
True, but like fucking wild to say like at work.
Like that's what hurt. People hurt people.

(01:07:50):
But then it's like in the midst of all of this, like her
friendships are falling apart, but she's like, Oh well, but
I've got this romantic connection that's great.
And Miles just doesn't pick her up when he's supposed to pick
her up from work. She waits for an.
Hour. And she thinks he's.
Dead because he hasn't texted oranything.

(01:08:13):
Yeah. And then when they do.
Text he's like texting the most.It's like the most dry texting
I've ever seen in my life. Like, sorry, something came up,
but like all spelled horribly inin lowercase, which like I love
all lowercase, but come on. And so she's upset because
she's, like, where Miles at? And then she immediately gets

(01:08:33):
the call that she has. They want to interview her for
the, like, dream job in Maryland.
So it's like, oh, my God, is shejust gonna cut and run?
And then Miles doesn't come home.
Yeah. The next day, he's still not
home. She comes home and he's like, I
guess, headed to work. And he's left, like, a box of
fudge being like, I'm so sorry Imissed you.
Like, I had a good reason. But she's like, you can't do to

(01:08:54):
me like, what my dad has always done to me my whole life.
Yeah. Which is.
Fair. And if you can believe it, Peter
shows up and he goes Petra and Icalled off the wedding.
It was just like cold feet. I made such a huge mistake and I
want to get back together. I will spend forever trying to

(01:09:15):
make it up to you. She's like, actually, I don't
want this. Like I have grown and you've
kind of shown your true colors. Can you imagine if someone
leaves? You like that you can't go like
stand up, you can't go back. And so I was like, no, we're
standing up totally, totally because I.
Also think she could have just been like no, but she was like

(01:09:36):
she truly explained what happened and because he is an
awful person, he was like oh shegot the better like she won.
And so he goes, OK, well, I'll take you down a notch.
Miles is with Petra right now and he's helping her move out of
our our old place. And I bet they're going to get

(01:09:59):
back together. And I what I will say.
For this book, I think the tropiest way this could have
gone was Daphne actually gettingback with Peter and then
realizing she's not happy and leaving him.
And so I do like that they didn't do that and she just shut
him down. And so then finally on
Wednesday, she sees Miles. He's not in his car.

(01:10:22):
He's in a Jeep, which you'd think she'd recognize that
that's Petra's car, but I guess she doesn't, which is.
But maybe Petra gets like a new.Car every month who knows she's
right and he's like a friend needed help.
I lost track of time. That's so bad.
Though a friend like be honest. I know.
And is this where Daphne says like, I know what yeah, she's

(01:10:43):
like? She's like, OK, And then she
waits for him to come come clean, and he doesn't.
So she asks him and then he's like, yeah, it was her.
I panicked. I made a mistake.
I tried to make it up to you. I tried to.
This is sad. This is really showing the mummy
stuff. He was like, I tried to make it

(01:11:04):
up to you by buying you like, anapology gift, but I like,
couldn't. I couldn't, like, figure out
this big grand gesture, so I ended up with Fudge and I just
left you that note. And she's like, I don't care
about the grand gestures. I don't need that type of stuff.
I just want you to show up for the little things, like when
you're going to pick me up from work and she jumps out of the

(01:11:26):
car because it's not raining anymore.
Yeah, there's like a break in the rain and.
She's like peace out. Yeah.
Which is. Very bad ass and she calls her
mom for some support kind of. They talk a lot about her dad
and and her upbringing and she says you can't run away if you
get offered this job. Like you have to push the the

(01:11:46):
discomfort. Make up with Ashley, make up
with Miles. So the next end she goes and
breaks into Ashley's house and paints her house like her room.
It's so funny. And like, she literally has this
realization, but she's like, I don't want grand gestures.
I don't want apologies, but I'm gonna show up.

(01:12:07):
For the little stuff. But then the way that she tries
to make it up to Ashley is like bringing her a coffee or
desserts from Portugal and then painting the room and like she
has this revelation. Like in the moment, she's like,
Oh my God, I realize that I'm doing what I hate, but it's so
funny and I but I feel like it'sso real.
No, because that's what. Isn't that what like everyone

(01:12:29):
does? We're like not everyone, but
like, isn't that kind of what you do when you if you fuck up
major? Like I do feel like people are
like, well, I have to do something to make it up to this
person in this way. And it's like that's not what
people want or most people. And when she even talks.
About it with Ash Ashley Ashley's like, I could have
called you I could have like Ashley never followed up to be

(01:12:52):
like, where are you Yeah. Because I think if she had
Daphne would have been like, Oh my God, I'm on my way totally
like. But Ashley shares that she has a
tendency to set up tests for people and wait for them to fail
so that she can take it out on them because of her relationship
with her ex-husband. And I really liked, like, I feel

(01:13:16):
like conversations, especially between women who are friends,
where you, like, go down the road of pathologizing your own
behavior and talking about it. And like they're, I feel like
that's so real. I feel like I could see you and
I having a conversation like that so clearly.
And it's just really. Refreshing also that it's like
she they both see what they did and are able to be like, I see

(01:13:39):
this in myself and I won't do itagain.
And Daphne ends up staying with Ashley.
She confides in her what happened with Miles and she is
like, you can stay with me just to get some space from him.
Meanwhile, she does her video interview for the library
position in Maryland. And then she has to go back to

(01:14:00):
Miles's apartment to get stuff for the readathon.
And when she's there, she bumps into Julia, who is mad at her
because, oh, we we kind of buried the lead when they were
in the car, Miles says. I love you.
Oh yeah. I guess we really should have
addressed that in the moment. Yeah.
But he says I love. You so then when Julia sees her

(01:14:22):
and she thinks he's saying this also as a grand gesture like I'm
going to say this so but that makes up how it comes across he.
Should not have told her in thatmoment, Correct?
Correct, correct. And so when she bumps into
Julia, Julia's like, I'm supposed to be mad at you
because my brother confessed hislove for you and you turned him

(01:14:43):
down. And she's like, I feel like his
problems will always interfere with his relationships in this
way. And because he he thinks he will
continuously disappoint people. That's really sad.
Yeah. And we also find.
Out that Julia and Miles finallytalked kind of about their

(01:15:05):
issues and why she came back, which is good because Daphne was
pushing them to talk and then they did talk totally which is
nice. Everyone is just having.
The healing conversations that they needed and so she while
she's. At the apartment hitting the
readathon stuff, which is stuff that was meant to be for her
wedding, but she's like, there'ssome stuff that I can use for

(01:15:26):
the readathon, so let me go get that, which is love a practical
question. Hilarious.
We love. This she's always had to make do
with less, you know, and she sees like her dad's note from
when he left without telling herthat she never read.
And she takes it and finally reads it, which is literally
like, hey, sorry daughter, I gota once in a lifetime opportunity

(01:15:48):
to go do this other thing. But like, I'll see you in
October. I'd love to see the fall.
Daphne's like what the fuck? Yeah.
How was? This.
How you like talked to your child you'd never see totally
and it all. Comes to a boiling point at the
read a thon when she decides to call her dad actually actually
sorry. Her dad calls her and wishes her
good luck, which again is like ashow a sign of growth.

(01:16:12):
How does he even know what? Day is the read a thon like
that? It felt so weird that he would
even know, but I guess maybe Miles told him and he.
Says like sorry for leaving you.I left because, you know, I met
this person and they invited us to meet up with them.
And when I told Miles this, he chewed us out for leaving early

(01:16:39):
and was trying to get us to stay.
Daphne was like, OK, thanks for telling me this.
She hangs up and then she immediately calls him back and
he was like, actually, you know what?
You're a fucking shit dad. Like you will never show up for
me in the way that I want you to.
So this is where we find. Out that Miles actually went to
try and get her dad to come backbecause he knows that that's

(01:17:01):
what would make Daphne happy andthat's why he was gone for the
Monday and Tuesday because he ended up missing like the last
ferry and had to stay on this island.
And it's the dad was like it wasreally awkward.
It was he really put us in a bind, which is like, you stayed
in his two-bedroom apartment with two addition, like, with
all these people, and you're madabout being inconvenienced.

(01:17:23):
Yeah, But he's literally like. And I told him, like, he's dumb.
Like, you don't care about stufflike that.
Like, you're so practical. You'd never get emotional and
you'd never get upset. And so that's when she finally
is. Like, I spent my whole life
waiting for you to show up, and you never show up for me.
And you're a shitty dad. And you've always been a shitty
dad. Fucking brutal.
But. True.
And the readathon is kind of offto a rocky start because a bunch

(01:17:47):
of volunteers aren't able to make it.
But because she has put in the time and effort to build
community in Waning Bay over thelast couple months, all the
people that she's met at the vegetable stand and the winery,
etcetera, etcetera show up and help out and the event goes
really, really well. Miles is there and at the end

(01:18:11):
they are able to go for a walk and she admits that she knows
that he chewed out her dad and that they talked about why he
ran to Petra. And he tells them that she saw
Peter and turned him down and that they are in love with each
other and they want to give it ashot.

(01:18:34):
But she does want to move out. She wants to get an apartment
and build her own life here thatdoesn't revolve around him.
And he's like, OK. Because he's like, oh, do you
want to go home? And she's like, well, I can't
live there, but I found a one bedroom apartment and he's like,
but she's like, but I can't movein for a week.
And he's like, OK, well do you want to come home with me?
And then she does naturally backto my.

(01:18:55):
Place later it is. It was funny, super cute.
They also talk about how, like, she saw Peter and turned him
down, and he saw Petra and turned her down and said, no,
I'm in love with Daphne. And Petra tried to be like,
well, you're not good enough forDaphne because, like, you've had
such a horrible childhood. Like, you could never have kids,

(01:19:16):
which is crazy. Oh yeah, we get the reveal.
That Peter and Petra broke up because Petra didn't want to
have kids. Yeah.
And Peter did Petra. I'm proud of you, Petra, for
living your truth. Like, good thing you didn't end
up but. Which is also crazy because then
it's like, OK, so Peter, you didn't realize immediately that
you made a mistake. You were totally fine with this,

(01:19:37):
but you thought Petra would slide into the life that you had
already planned, and then she didn't fit.
So you said peace. Yeah, because you suck.
Peter ain't shit. And so then, yeah, we get the
epilogue. And the other thing too is like
through this whole book, Daphne is walking by this beautiful
little green like cottage bungalow house that she thinks
is so cute and she could see herlife there, but she can't afford

(01:19:59):
it. And in the epilogue, which is
just over a year, like a year and a couple of months past the
events of the book, they moved in together into a little
bungalow that has the same floorplan but it's like a fixer upper
because they can't afford to just buy the nice house like
Peter had in the in the 1st place the Victorian.
Yeah, they're about to. Have their house warming.

(01:20:20):
And Daphne's mom is coming and everyone's showing up to visit
them and Julia still lives thereand is working as a barista.
Daphne's mom is there just so excited.
Sadie is coming because they have rekindled their friendship.
And it was the coldness between them was really Sadie was
worried because she's, you know,married to Peter's best friend.

(01:20:43):
And would Daphne even be able todeal with her considering she's
kind of stuck with Peter becauseof her husband?
And as they're all chatting, it comes out how Miles and and
Daphne met in the fake dating, but not everybody knew the
story. And Miles goes, oh, it's
actually a funny story. And then Daphne tells it.

(01:21:03):
It's so cute. And I love when she's like
talking about how he loves hearing it from her POV.
It's so cute. It's so.
Cute I was. Giggling and kicking my feet?
No, let me the whole time. Like the quite literally the
only Emily Henry that doesn't get me in that mood is Happy

(01:21:24):
Place, which I think may have made me like this one more
because I had read Happy Place when it came out and then I read
this one and I didn't really like Happy Place.
I think I need to give Happy Place to reread TBHI.
Just like didn't like it as muchas the others.
And so I think that made me likethis one more.
I might own Happy. Place I gave did I give?

(01:21:44):
You the hardcover or did I give that to someone else?
No, my sister gave. It to me OK, I must have given
it to someone. Else maybe.
Anyways, anyways, yes, I need toread.
It for the first time. OK, let's wrap up with our
Internet investigation. This is our cursory proves of
the Internet, things you need toknow.
This is just like a little bit of an Emily Henry update.

(01:22:05):
Obviously, people we meet on vacation.
Filming has wrapped, and I don'tthink I've talked about this
officially on the podcast. I've definitely talked to them
about it on my Instagram at Ready to Be Romanced.
But Emily Bader who is the star of My Lady Jane and Tom Blythe
who is the star of The Hunger Games prequel are Poppy and Alex

(01:22:27):
the lead characters. And when I tell you I am so
fucking Ferrell for Tom Blythe, he is so fucking fine.
And Emily Bader is stunning and such a good actress.
I loved her and My Lady Jane so I am so pumped on this.
I am so pumped. When is it coming out?
I don't know, it just wrapped. This summer, so OK, it's

(01:22:51):
expected. This year, the fall of this
year. And is this one a show or?
A movie cuz I know some of them are shows and some are gonna
mean movies. OK, they're all movies.
Except for Happy Place. When you read Happy Place,
you're. Gonna like I have so many grapes
and grumbles for Happy. I can't wait to hear them.
And you will too. This is also very.
Exciting. In July 2020, Emily said that

(01:23:15):
she has been sent the first draft of Book Lovers, so she
must have spent this fall editing it.
And so I'm sure that will go into production really soon,
which is very exciting. I'm literally going to lose my.
Mind, I can't wait and I wonder why these are.
Unanswered questions for the listeners.
OK, this is one question that wedidn't get to talk about, but

(01:23:38):
why would you invite your dad tostay with you after he was just
in a motel with bedbugs? Well, OK, so.
I don't think that the dad ever stayed there.
I I feel like they like drop went to drop the dad off at the
motel and they all looked at it and were like she looked I can't
stay. Here I think they like looked up
directions and she's like this is far away and then clicked on

(01:23:59):
the link and was like this is bad but do you think her dad
like drop? Did Starfire and her dad drop
their bags off and then go to Miles?
Not there. Their bags were in the car.
Come on. OK.
OK. So they didn't you?
Think they got in contact with bedbugs I also.
Feel like her dad never intendedto stay in the shitty motel.

(01:24:22):
He was just like, yeah, we booked him a motel but don't
give a spare room cuz you guys are together cuz our psychic
said you're gonna be together. Which by the way, they have like
a. Legitimate psychic because the
psychic knew that Miles and Daphne would end up together and
they end up winning a free trip that gets mentioned in the
epilogue because of a tip from the psychic.

(01:24:43):
So they like a legit psychic. Yeah, I need her.
Number and then we talked about this, but and it is kind of
answered, but would Daphne's character really forget about
the painting? Like you're right that she
didn't put it on the calendar, but like she just seems like
such a girl that would know evenif she was thrown off.

(01:25:06):
I feel like she's a girl that like rallies and puts on a brave
face and stuff, I feel like. Yes, but I also feel like she's
probably like me and that if shedoesn't write it down, she's
never going to remember it happened.
And that's why she has such an organized calendar, right?
It's like. A tactic to be organized, she

(01:25:27):
has to have the. Calendar or else she will never
remember anything. That's fair.
OK. Our grace and grumbles.
These are nitpicky problems we have with the book.
We already talked about some of these.
We've talked about a lot of these.
This is really picky. I actually like I'm too
embarrassed to say it aloud. No, Say it.
I wrote down why are you describing your hard nipples as

(01:25:50):
meerkats and you're so valid forthat.
It's so weird. I hate when authors like, it's
not that your nipples are hard. That's not the problem that I
have. No, it's the meerkats.
Why are they like meerkats? It's like the diamonds.
Or like like why are you like describing nipples like that?
It's so weird to like I I also find it.

(01:26:13):
So weird. I feel like romance novels
really lean on the idea of like a woman's nipples being hard as
like the be all and all of arousal when like it is kind of
like an like. Like it's like it is related.
For sure, but like, I don't think that that's how it is.
For all people. Yeah, yeah, I.

(01:26:35):
I agree with that. I think it's like they are
trying. I know it's like it's not lazy
writing, but I, I do get it. It's like you're trying to show
that the woman is aroused. And I feel like with the guy,
it's like they just say it's hiserection and like I feel like
they're like, what's the equivalent for women?
But like I like I would rather have like pupils dilate, heavy

(01:26:58):
breathing, not even rather just like in addition, maybe.
And the meerkats thing fucking made me want to kill myself.
Well, and because that's where it's.
So she, like, goes to have a shower.
Yeah, this is also very. Classy.
Like one of their swimming. Things that she comes out in her
pajamas to like eat dinner, which like girl, why did you put

(01:27:20):
on like satin pajamas, but they're like white and she was
still wet when she put the pajamas on so her like but it
was just annoying like clinging yes, which is like that's.
Totally fine, but there's no waythat you A wouldn't notice that
your shirt is clinging to your tits.
I have sensory issues and then Bit's like I just don't feel
like. Daphne's the type of girl that

(01:27:41):
just, like, runs out of the bathroom to eat dinner.
It's like, I feel like she checks herself in the mirror
like, 10 times. Yeah, I would agree with that.
But also, like, it's fine. I can suspend disbelief.
Why are they meerkats? Just say, like, my nipples were
hard. My nipples were hardening under
mild gaze or like, some shit like that.
Like, you don't have to do all that.

(01:28:03):
You don't have to compare them to fucking to moan from The Lion
King like. It's too much moan.
He's a meerkat. Anyway, your next.
Your next. Gripe and crumble is about her
getting Chai at 5:00 AM and but it's because he gets her coffee

(01:28:23):
the first time and she goes oh Idon't drink coffee, I drink
Chai, no. And so then he brings her a Chai
the next time. I know it's not the Chai.
It's that he's late for their kayaking because he goes and
gets her coffee or tribe. He's nobody.
He's taking care. Of her, which is thoughtful, but
why wouldn't you? Go on route to the kayaking.

(01:28:45):
Well, OK, yes. Fair.
Like why would? He why would he leave?
And sorry, I don't believe that the cafe in Waning Bay is open
at 5:00 AM, but it's like, why would you leave the house?
Get a tribe, bring it to the house to pick her up.
Do you think he had? To like call them the night
before, be like, please open at 4:45 so that I can come and

(01:29:05):
order a tribe, he said. Sorry.
He was very ADHD. I it was actually very
reminiscent of me being like 15 minutes late and he was like,
sorry there was a line that I just didn't account for in my
hat. Also, why is there a line at
Saturday? It is also like a.
Super tourist community and so like if maybe there's a lot of

(01:29:25):
people that are gonna go and do like sunrise excursions and
maybe it does like make sense that the local, like maybe the
local coffee shop is open from like 5:00 to 9:00 and then they
close like a lot of old. People old, I mean olds.
Deserve to have a nice coffee too.
At 5:00 AM. At 5:00 AM.

(01:29:46):
Well, it's the circadian rhythm,OK?
Finally, our sequels group. This is the team on any upcoming
sequel seasons and the general reception.
This is a stand alone book, but as we've discussed, Emily sold
the rights to writer picture company slash Lyrical Media for
a movie adaptation. And the most exciting part is

(01:30:11):
that she's doing the writing forthe adaptation, which she didn't
do for people we meet on vacation, book lovers or beach
read. So I feel like this would be
will be very special I. Can't wait.
Also, one more thing I love about Emily Henry, cuz you said
yes. It's good that she makes you

(01:30:31):
care about all the side characters.
Yeah, I love that she doesn't just write a book about every
side character. Yeah, they're all just like in
unique universes. Cuz I, I, I like it sometimes
when you get the sequels about the side characters, but then
also it's it could be a bit much.
So I like it because you get. To usually you get more

(01:30:53):
information about the first couple and how they're dooming.
So I like it in that sense and Ilike the world building and
stuff like that. But yeah, it's like, I don't
need like, you know, Ali Hazelwood's newest book Deep End
just came out and people are like, we got an olive and
whatever the fuck the partner's name is reference in Deep End.
And I was like, I, I couldn't care less.

(01:31:15):
Ali Hazelwood will forever be dead to me for writing that sex
scene where he puts her whole tit in his mouth.
I don't care how small your boobs are.
And the love hypoth was gonna say which one is that?
I. Haven't read that one, it's the
only one I've. Read and he literally like they
I think it might even be the first time they have sex and he
it's like made such a point thathe takes her whole tiny little

(01:31:38):
pit in his mouth like yeah, it'slittle.
It's like itty bitty titty committee.
It's not like huge or anything, but I'm just like, that's such a
weird thing to emphasize and it made me just swear off.
Plus, that doesn't sound like. It would feel good.
It doesn't sound enjoyable. No, it doesn't sound like it

(01:31:59):
would. Feel good.
It's maybe her boob was like a meerkat, I don't know but.
Maybe. I'm I I might read bride because
you said it's good, but. The actual for some reason it's
it was my favorite book in 2024,but like it is like I would say

(01:32:23):
like the actual story if you. Think about it is bad.
Like it was, it's just a really fun read.
I think both the main charactersare really good, but there's
like some crazy shit that happens.
I'm dead. I'm.
Literally dead. OK, well, to to be continued on,

(01:32:43):
if I'm going to read bride, I can't think it's the one that.
The book I read on this pod of Allie Hazelwood, and I can't
remember its name. It's the orange cover.
Yeah, I'm not gonna do that. Cuz that's another Star Wars fan
fiction and I'm not interested in that.
That's fair, That's fair. OK, final thing, let's talk
about Emily Henry's Dreamcast, because I actually think these

(01:33:06):
suggestions are a sleigh, she says.
Glenn Powell as Peter, Logan Lerman as Miles and Camila
Morone as Daphne. I am not.
On board with Logan Lerman. What?
That's the. Well, Glen Powell, I think is
such a perfect Peter. I feel like that's yes, 100%.

(01:33:28):
Logan Lerman I feel like maybe isn't tall enough.
But I think his aesthetic is like his aesthetic is fine.
But he's so frail to me. Like, I don't like, there's like
moments in this book where Milesis like picking Daphne up and
like carrying her and kind of throwing her around a little
bit. And I don't believe that Lord
Lamer has that in him. And like which I.

(01:33:51):
Feel like she can be protective too.
I'm not saying that, but like yes they they can, but I feel.
Like like this is like she gets Miles T-shirt and it's like his
big like camel cigarette T-shirtand like is like a dress on her.
Whereas I feel like Logan Lermanis like the boyfriend where you
try to put on their sweatpants is like feel.

(01:34:11):
Small and then there's like. Skinny jeans.
I hate that I'm gonna. Have to edit out that laugh.
Don't edit it out, keep it in. That is so.
Funny 100% I love those TikTok so much being like I put on my
boyfriend's sweatpants and they would like skin.
Yeah. And like, again, there's nothing

(01:34:33):
wrong with that. And it's not like, it's not like
there's like one type of body that's like desirable or
anything like that. And like, I think Logan Lerman
is hot, like 10 on 10 on 10. Love that.
Deadly my type. I just don't think he's Miles.
I think Miles is like a lumberjack.
He's like carrying like barrels of wine and like, I don't know,

(01:34:58):
I just feel like he's like the brawny paper towel man in my
head. No, I do.
I do think that too with his tattoos, like he has the sailor
tattoo and the mermaid tattoo and stuff like that.
I love. He's like, Oh yeah, I just.
Thought mermaids were cool, which is very much like.
I feel like I've had conversations like that.
We're like, oh, like, what's themeaning behind your tattoo?
And I'm like, anyway, I think flowers are pretty.

(01:35:20):
Yeah. And like.
That's also so that also just shows so much of his like that
is his personality of just like,oh, I liked it and like, yeah,
yeah. But I looked at Logan Lerman's
height. He's 5 foot 9 short king which.
Again, short kings can be protected.
Know what celebrity? Heights.com says he's 5 foot 7,

(01:35:40):
so he's in between probably 5 seven and five nine.
So he's 5/8, he's 5/8, which would mean he's 5/8, which would
mean Tory. That would mean.
He's half an inch taller than me.
I know that's kind of. Tried, Yeah.

(01:36:01):
No and and no. Literally not an issue.
Not a concern, just I if Miles is going to be a short king, he
needs to be like a jacked short king.
I also pitcher. Petra, which may be like, I kind
of maybe it's like kind of Joe Jonas, Sophie Turner, but I
pitcher Petra really tall and like willowy and me too, so.

(01:36:22):
I just feel like if. She was 5/8 or five nine.
Then he would be like 6 foot. At least I'm picturing him. 64
curly dark hair, huge rippling muscles.
Yeah. And yes, I'm the problem.
It's me. Yeah, fine.
We'll. Admit it, we just want him to be

(01:36:42):
tall and jacked, but it's not like I'm like, oh this.
Is me imagining like what I findattractive?
Because like, I'm not really into like a jacked appearance?
No, that's not for me at all. No, no, no, no.
Same here. Same and I'm 5 foot 1, so 5 foot
9. Honestly.
In my world, towers, yeah. It's really tall, so I did pitch
your. Miles, I'm a little bit more

(01:37:04):
rugged. Maybe that's it from us.
This was super fun. Can you tell the listeners where
they can find you and anything else you want to plug?
Yes, thank you. So much for having me.
I'm sorry that you now have to edit the longest podcast known
to mankind and it's already late, Sorry.

(01:37:24):
Might. Be but yes, thank you for having
me. Always love to come on, happy to
chop it up. And if people wanted to hear
more from me, I have a weekly pop culture celebrity gossip and
trending topics podcast called Mess Magnets, which is really
fun. And recently the podcast network
that led to you and I becoming friends.
Rob has a podcast just turned 15this week.

(01:37:45):
And Rob did an oral history of the lore like oral Laurel
history of the podcast. And it was three parts and I'm
featured in the second part talking about some of my
favorite RJP memories. So excited because.
I was going to actually, I just downloaded parts 1-2 and three
and I was going to listen to them this week and I was going
to literally text you and be like, are you included in one of

(01:38:08):
these parts? Yes, I'm in Part 2.
Talking about the Facebook Friday era and kind of like the
RJP patron. Oh my God.
I. Remember when I was at work and
I was I would always it would start before I would get off
because we were I guess he was Pacific too, but and I would we

(01:38:28):
be waiting for my friend to drive home with him and we would
put on Facebook Fridays. That's.
So cute. But anyways, yeah, definitely
check that out as well. And you can follow me on all
social media except Twitter. Kirsten said what?
Which includes twitch dot TD. Kirsten said what?
Thank you so much for having me Tori.
Thanks for coming on. And that's the story of Funny

(01:38:53):
Story. Thank you so much for listening
and thank you to Kirsten for joining me on today's show.
First off, I want to say sorry that this is late.
I have been hashtag living life.And with that, usually a ball
has to drop. And unfortunately the ball was
this episode, but I'm happy to be back.
And I wanted to let you know that in February, I was on two
podcasts very much related to RTBR, which was Movies That

(01:39:18):
Raised Us. I talked about the third
installment of the two All the Boys I Loved Before movie
trilogy, Love Always. And it was super fun to
reconnect with MO and Christina.We covered To All the Boys last
year on this pod and we have nowcovered all three movies on
their podcast. So that was such a joy.

(01:39:40):
And then I was over on the ROM Complex talking about my
favorite movie probably of all time, which is What a Girl Wants
with Amanda Bynes. So, so, so good.
So go check those out. I'll put links in the episode
show notes. And then I want to say it's time
to suggest a book or leave a voicemail with a question via

(01:40:02):
the links in the episode show notes.
My little barrel is empty, so I'd love to add some new titles
to the list. And for April, finally,
subscribing and leaving a ratingand review really helps the show
find new listeners, which helps us build a little community
here. And then of course you can
follow. On socials at Ready to be
Romance, I'm always posting quizzes or fan casts or tik toks

(01:40:26):
or memes or whatever, especiallyones related to the book when
the episode comes out. Anyways, friends, our next
episode is The Hating Game. Until then, happy reading for
Ready to be Romanced. I'm Tori.
Goodbye.

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