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Welcome to retirement GPS navigated by synergy, your roadmap to a secure and confident retirement.
Each week we explore strategies, stories, and planning frameworks designed to help you navigate the complexities of life after work, from tax planning to investments, income strategies to risk management.
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Our goal is to give you the clarity and confidence you need to make informed decisions.
But retirement isn't just about the numbers.
It's also about lifestyle, purpose, and peace of mind.
We are here to guide you through both the financial details and the personal dimensions of this next chapter.
Let's chart today's course.
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Welcome back to episode four of the Retirement GPS podcast, where we help you stay on course towards a confident, purpose-driven retirement.
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I'm your host, Ryan Zaharek, certified financial planner and founder of Synergy Retirement Planning.
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And of course, as usual, I'm joined once again by my co-host, associate planner, the man, the myth, the legend, synergies, Zane Sack.
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Hey Zane, welcome.
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Hey, thank you, Ryan.
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I really appreciate the intro.
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It's always great to be here.
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Today's topic is, one I'm especially glad we're diving into, because whether you're just getting close to retirement or starting your financial journey, this is something that applies to everybody.
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It's exactly right.
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I don't care if you're 22 or 82.
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If you are not thinking about an emergency reserve, then you have not started financial planning yet.
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I don't even care if you started a 401k or put money in a Roth IRA.
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Emergency reserves are foundational.
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They're your roadside assistance when it comes to your financial needs.
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And it may not be that much of an exciting topic to most people, but there's a lot of nuance to it.
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And frankly, a lot of people don't even know where to start 'cause they feel like it can be overwhelming.
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Now obviously our topics and our conversations are tiered towards retirees, but we also are gonna touch a little bit on people just starting out.
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So we give everybody an opportunity to learn how to have a proper emergency reserve for their retirement plan.
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So let's start with a basic definition.
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At z we define the emergency reserve as a safe, liquid, and accessible cash component.
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Okay? So money that you can tap into right away.
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Let me define each of those.
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So safe means that.
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It's as guaranteed as we can.
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We can really get in this world, right? We want it to be safe.
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We don't want it to be at risk.
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Liquid means that we don't have to trade it, sell it, exchange it for cash.
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It is already cash ready to go.
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And accessible means that we can get at it.
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We like to say in 48 hours time, 72 hours tops, but we can get the money right away.
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And obviously the easiest way to save an emergency reserve is to set up a high yield savings account, money market account, and of course a checking account.
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But we typically don't like to see a checking account as emergency or reserve.
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But anything safe, liquid, and accessible.
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But it's important to understand this money is not invested in the market.
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It's not tied to long-term goals.
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It's there purely for an emergency.
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If an emergency were to come up.
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And that really, it seems like it applies to every age.
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You know, being relatively young, and even in my own life, I can see the importance of this.
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I have a good little tidbit of a story to tell.
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A while back, I actually had a sudden car issue, completely random and thousands of dollars just outta the blue for repairs.
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Because I had an emergency reserve, I really didn't need to put it on a credit card or dip into my investments, which is most important.
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Especially when you're at an age where building credit and investments are so important, this emergency reserve is really a lifesaver.
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This is your foundation and before you invest, before you even talk about retirement, build this.
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and for people who are near retirement, emergency reserve are even more important if an unexpected expense were to come up.
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And you don't have that cash on hand.
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You don't wanna be forced to sell investments at a bad time or take taxable withdrawals, and push yourself into higher tax brackets when we're planning these multiple sophisticated tax strategies like Roth conversions and things like that.
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So having that emergency reserve is great and it is something that.
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We don't even start talking about any other concept in financial planning until we know that this one is taken care of.
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Now, lemme tell you a little bit of the story of Susan.
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Susan's been one of our long time members.
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She retired from her career as a school teacher a few years ago, and she had a really well structured plan between her pension, social security, and then the investment distributions that we had set up for her.
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Things were running really smoothly.
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She was really active in her community.
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She was traveling, she was helping out with her grandkids.
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She was living the retirement lifestyle that she had dreamed and frankly, that a lot of people have dreamed.
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Then her furnace broke and this was right in the middle of February, so there was no waiting.
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It was falling below freezing and she needed to get heat in her house and it actually happened to coincide with the same time that she had just approved a major expense on her car so she had a $15,000 furnace bill and then she had a car repair that was over $4,500.
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And this all of a sudden, through her cash flow in her budgeting way off.
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Yeah.
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And that's the thing, Ryan are you not gonna repair your furnace in the middle of February? It's just difficult to plan for these expenses as they come up.
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That's why an emergency reserve is just so essential.
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These are things that are, they're just not an option they have to get done.
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But the good news is because she was working with Zenergy and we made sure that she had a significant emergency reserve cushion, she was able to pay for these things right out of her savings.
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It didn't come out of her cash flow, it didn't come out of her budget.
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It came from her emergency reserve.
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She was able to write the check, get things done, and then she was able to take time over the next year to replenish that emergency reserve.
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And the nice thing is she didn't have to dip into her investments when, things potentially could not have been going well in those investments and kept their long-term plan on track.
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That's the benefit of that emergency reserve.
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That's really the underlying difference.
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It turns that stressful situation such as, a new furnace into really a manageable one, just an expense that needs to be paid off because you've already planned for the unexpected.
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It's not just about being prepared, it's about avoiding stress when life really throws something unexpected your way.
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And Ryan, a good question.
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Listeners may be thinking.
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What's enough? How much should I have in my emergency reserve? It's a good question.
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And there is no right answer.
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I usually like to say emergency reserve is as much art as it is science.
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We have people we work with that have, five and $10,000 in emergency reserve, which we think is too low.
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We also have people we work with that have $500,000 in emergency or reserve, which we think is too high.
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So again.
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There is a level of comfort that is really right for the individual.
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And let me just kind of elaborate on this.
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The reason why the person with 5,000 in their emergency reserve doesn't want anymore is simply because they're worried they're gonna spend it if they have it.
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You know, their motto is, if I have it and I see it, I'm gonna spend it so we can work with that person and sort of work around that by, tailoring the investments in the portfolio to set aside a larger cash component to mimic emergency reserve and the case of the person that has 500,000.
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It is just what allows them to sleep well at night.
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It allows them to be comfortable so having way too much in emergency reserve is a problem in a different way, but for this person, it's what they want, it's what they feel comfortable with.
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It's almost like their security blanket.
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So they're not worried and stressed in their retirement.
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You've probably heard things, rules of thumb, things like three a month, things like six months.
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Even a year's worth of expenses.
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These are all helpful starting points, but I have to tell you and if you're not working with an advisor, just get yourself three months of living expenses Set aside is a great start.
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It is certainly better than nothing, but.
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At Synergy, we really talk about finding that right balance.
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Remember we talked about art and not science.
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We wanna find that right balance of sleeping well and eating well, and that means having enough cash to feel secure, but not so much that you're giving up the opportunity for that cash to grow and make babies, right, make larger returns.
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Make kids that are then gonna make kids that are then gonna make kids and grow and grow and grow.
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That's a good point because something I'm thinking of is.
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Say you have a hundred thousand dollars sitting in savings, earning, whatever the rate is next to nothing, that might help you sleep at night.
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But over the course of five to 10 years, the opportunity cost could be just tens of thousands of dollars and lost growth.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And for those who never took Microeconomics 1 0 1, opportunity cost is the resource I have and what I'm doing with it, but what could I be doing with it? Somewhere else in order to either benefit more or less, and in this case, ase points out.
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The question is if I have a hundred thousand dollars that's sitting in a savings account, earning 3% maybe, if I'm lucky, 4%.
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And that's really lucky today, if I can get 4% in my savings account, but I'm getting seven or 8% in my investment account.
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You do the math, you're looking at three to $4,000 a year in growth at al losing year in and year out.
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As long as that a hundred thousand is sitting in savings, that's our opportunity cost, so, exactly right, Zane.
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The goal here is to strike the balance.
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We typically recommend anywhere from three to 12 months of essential expenses.
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Things like food, housing, medical bills, transportation, insurance.
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Now three to 12 months is a very broad range, right? You could drive a truck through that range, for somebody who's spending $5,000 a month on those expenses.
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Three months is 15,000, and 12 months is 60,000.
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That's a huge range, and the reason why it's a huge range is 'cause like most things in financial planning, it's different for each person.
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For from each person based on, again, what their comfort level is, but also, what is the guaranteed level of their income sources.
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If we have somebody who is a salesperson who is not retired and they're getting commissioned income, some months they may make 20,000 and some months they may might make zero.
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We want a larger emergency reserve for someone like that.
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We wanna make sure that they have enough cash, far more cash than somebody who is working for.
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A secure job as a teacher or, you know, a healthcare provider where they know that their job is very little chance of risk and they have consistent salary.
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For retirees, we do like to push a little bit more towards the nine to 12 months.
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Having a little bit of higher cash reserves gives them the comfort level of knowing that no matter what's going on in the environment, the market environment, that they have enough cash to pay those basic bills.
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So Ryan, here's a, here's another question, and this is really on the other end of the scale and it's actually a question we've heard in meetings many times.
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So what if I had a ton of money, say like half a million dollars in, in IRA or, my Schwab brokerage account? Wouldn't that count as my emergency reserve? Yeah.
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I actually heard that about a week ago where somebody said, why do I need an emergency reserve? I have you.
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Right, and they mean us and the money that they have invested with us.
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And although, I understand that, specifically we'll talk about investments in a future podcast, but in a diversified portfolio, some of that money would be cash or cash equivalents.
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It is not the same as an emergency reserve because it is not li it is not liquid in the sense that they can have it as quickly as we'd like to see them have it.
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And the short answer is no.
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Your investments are not your emergency or reserve.
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Investments are designed for a specific strategy.
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There's, even if you are in retirement and you're taking distributions from your investments, we design them in a specific pattern so that there's a certain amount of cash in that portfolio for distributions.
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And then the rest of the money is designed for different things specifically to grow over time.
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And if you're coming to us on a regular basis and needing to draw.
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15,000, 20,000, $30,000 for emergencies that come up that are unforeseen, that is dramatically altering the way we are going to do our asset allocation.
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Really, it becomes a problem because of the market volatility.
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The accounts themselves are not stable because a portion of the accounts may be stable, but there's another portion that's gonna be really volatile and too many emergencies.
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Like the case, of our story earlier with Susan needing to take money in February for her car and the furnace at the same time.
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If that just happened to be in a bad market environment, we're going to have a problem in our portfolio that's gonna cause a rebalance.
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And that's not something that we're gonna wanna do.
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We're not gonna wanna sell stocks, we're not gonna want to, even if we take the money from bonds or cash equivalents, ultimately we're gonna have to rebalance that portfolio and sell stocks at a lower price, and we're not gonna want to do that.
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That's why that emergency reserve's important.
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It should be stable, and it should be accessible at all times, regardless of the market conditions.
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Okay.
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So yeah, that makes sense.
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So even if someone has a large investment portfolio, I guess they would still need a cash reserve that's totally separate, just ready for the unexpected.
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Exactly.
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And think of it like this.
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Your investments are the engine of your plan, but your emergency reserve like insurance are the brakes in your airbags, right.
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We hope you don't need them nobody ever buys fire insurance on their home.
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And our homeowner's insurance fire is covered.
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I have never met somebody who said every to me, man, every year I'm paying for this fire insurance and my house has never burned down.
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I can't believe I'm wasting my money on this fire insurance.
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You know, I wish my house would just burn down so I could use it.
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No, it's there in case we need it, but we don't ever want to use it.
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We hope we don't need them, but when you do, you'll be glad that they're there.
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All right, so we've got the how much covered, so now let's talk about where to actually put the money.
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Brian, do you recommend some, like a specific kind of account? Does FDIC mean anything to you? Sure.
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And yes, it does.
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Essentially what we recommend is keeping your emergency reserve.
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We like to see it in a high yield savings account.
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It can be attached to your checking account or it can be held at a completely separate institution.
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The interest rate is not as important, however.
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Once we have FDIC insurance and let's talk about what that is.
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FDIC insurance stands for Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, which basically means the federal government is backing up our cash, right? If the bank were to fail and we have $250,000 per depositor or less, then the government will step in and replenish our cash, so we won't lose any money.
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That's to us.
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Safe, right? That satisfies that safe component.
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So when we're investing, we don't necessarily need FDIC insurance, but we want federal protection.
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And there are other types of accounts that have federal protection.
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If we buy treasury bills or something like that will also be federal protection.
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If we buy, I bonds, EE bonds, that's federal protection.
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But typically we want to find an FDIC insured savings account.
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FDIC is important 'cause it means your money's protected up to the legal limit.
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And we know that we're not gonna worry about paying failure, okay? So once we have the FDIC insurance, once we have an account that we can access and get the money relatively quickly, then you know, beyond that, the interest rate is something that we can look for.
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But getting an extra half a percent on your money, even if you're talking about 50 or a hundred thousand dollars, it's not a tremendous amount of money that it's not so much money that we would want to sacrifice the safety, the liquidity, and the accessibility of our money.
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Those are the main priorities.
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But once we have those three things, then we can start looking for a better rate.
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Yeah, that's something that I really think people overlook, especially that FDIC insured portion.
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Just because your account says savings doesn't mean the money's automatically safe.
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If you've got more than the FDIC coverage limit at one bank, which, Ryan had mentioned before, something wise to think about is splitting it up.
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Yeah, it's a good point.
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We do see that all the time, especially people who get windfall cash, whether it be from the sale of a house or the sale of a business.
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And what they do is they'll take all that money, take a million dollars or so, and put it into a checking account or a savings account and say, no, my money's safe.
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It's in the bank.
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I don't care what bank you're with.
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Banks do fail and they have failed.
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Very recently, we had two pretty large banks fail very recently in 2022.
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The $250,000 limit, as for 2025 per depositor is just something to keep an eye on.
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If it's a joint account, you have 500,000.
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If it's, if you have more cash than that in the short term, just split it up, invest it in different banks, just to make sure that money's there.
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We don't want you dipping into that money for things like the big screen TV or vacation or holiday shopping, this labeled emergency fund, and really is only touched when it's an emergency.
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And for those in their twenties or thirties, someone my age this does sound intimidating.
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Maybe you're just getting started and the idea of saving even six months of expenses feels way outta reach.
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Start small.
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Yeah, and I can't emphasize this enough.
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When we start talking with people, just even people outta college, I never tell you when you take your first job, don't invest in a 401k.
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You know, that, that's always something that we should start doing.
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But really the first main priority in your financial plan, if you're just starting out, is to get this emergency reserve built up and.
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We don't need you to, eat the whole elephant in one bite.
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You don't need to set aside three months worth of expenses.
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It could take you five years to do that.
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And we don't want to see you sacrifice your lifestyle or sacrifice, saving for retirement simply because you're billing this emergency reserve.
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But we do say.
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Get yourself a thousand dollars as quick as possible.
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If you can get a thousand dollars saved in an emergency reserve, I don't care what you have to do, if you have to hold a yard sale, if you gotta drive an Uber, don't eat out for a month or two.
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Do whatever you can to get a thousand dollars in a savings account as quick as possible.
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That is your start to your emergency reserve end.
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Listen, if you are 22, 23, even 30 years old, if you can get a thousand dollars set aside, it will cover, or how do I say this, protect you against probably 70 to 80% of the major issues in life that may come up, right? You get a flat tire, car gets towed to the mechanic and they gotta replace your tire.
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You need that car to get to work.
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You need that car to earn your living, so you gotta be able to pay for it.
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We don't want you to have to put that on a credit card or dip into your 401k to pay for it.
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If it's a $500 tow and tire, you have that a thousand dollars to cover that emergency, get the tire fixed, and then get that emergency reserve back up to a thousand bucks.
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And then once you have that at a thousand dollars, then set aside a certain amount of money.
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Every single paycheck.
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I don't care if it's 20 bucks, I don't care if it's 50 bucks, set aside a certain amount of money and continue to add to that thousand bucks until you get to three months worth of living expenses.
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And the sooner you start the more gradually you can get it to grow.
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And frankly, here's the thing, the more confidence that you'll have.
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In your financial life that you can now go out and do other things.
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We always like to say we're building your financial empire.
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Like when you're 22, 23, 24, you're building a financial empire.
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When you're building an empire, and the first thing you do is you've got your castle.
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First thing you wanna do is protect it, right? You can't go out and conquer other worlds until you've protected your castle.
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Your emergency reserve is your financial moat.
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So get that moat dug.
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It doesn't have to be the biggest moat in the world, but get something dug.
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Save that a thousand bucks and then set up regular recurring savings so that you're growing that over time.
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And that's pretty relieving for someone, especially my age.
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And I'm sure you can remember Ryan, just a thought of saving something like $10,000 when you're right outta college and you have bills, car loans, student loans.
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Social life, it just, it seems a bit overwhelming and that thousand dollar buffer to begin, really relieves the tension.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And when I was your age, ZI think I was working on inventing fire, but it was, it was a really, really valuable technology to me.
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Uh, no.
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All kidding aside, we, you know, I, I, I know what it was like.
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I had those student loans, I had the car loan.
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I was paying, all these.
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Bills for the first time in my life because before that my parents had paid them.
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And yeah, I had a job, but I wasn't making very much money.
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So understanding, start small, start with that.
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A thousand dollars.
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So let's wrap up with a few action steps here.
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First and foremost, let's go back to our retirees here.
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Calculate your essential monthly expenses.
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So then things like your housing, your food, your medical, your transportation.
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You don't need to calculate your income, right? We don't need to calculate what do I earn every month? Because if you were to lose your job, or if you had an emergency come up you really would only focus on the essentials at that point.
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If you're out of work, you're not concerned about paying income taxes, which would come outta your paychecks.
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So, look At your essential living expenses.
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Multiply them by anywhere from three to 12, right? So that's three to 12 months worth of those expenses Now.
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I'm not gonna tell you what is the right number for you.
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If you think about this, if you have a secure job, if you're comfortable in a lot of other areas of your financial life, maybe three months of emergency reserve is plenty for you.
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And if you're retired or if you have a variable stream of income, if you're retired and you're counting heavily on your investments to pay you for your lifestyle, probably 12 months is better for you.
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If you're a salesperson, if you have inconsistent income, if you are dual income that are high income and high probability of losing a job, 12 months is probably a better fit for you.
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Review your current accounts.
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So how close are you? Are you there yet? Are you way off? Open a high yield FDIC insured savings account.
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So that you have an, if you don't already have it, that way you, you have that account ready to go, and you've got your target now that you've set and you're ready to go.
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Make sure those funds are separate.
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These are not part of your checking account.
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It's not part of your investment accounts.
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We do not want this to be money in and out, right? Money in is your paycheck and then money outta the bills that you pay.
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This is a completely separate account, and if you're just starting out.
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Make sure that you set up automatic transfers.
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And honestly, even if you're not starting out, if you are, if there's a gap to your emergency reserve comfort level save, save regularly, you can pull money from other investments if need be.
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We don't really want to take money out of IRAs and pay taxes to them, put it in cash in emergency reserve, but, maybe save a little bit each month or each.
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Pay period, to start building that up and then just review annually to adjust your life expenses, will change over time.
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So you want to be able to adjust your emergency reserve as needed.
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And for anyone just starting out, it's really important to especially just celebrate the milestones.
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First a thousand dollars in reserves, that's a huge deal.
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Keep going and your future self will, thank you.
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If they don't, I definitely will.
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Yeah, I agree.
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We need to celebrate the little wins for sure.
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And what, let's be clear about that.
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I don't want you to hit the a thousand dollars mark and then spend $200 on a bottle of Dom Perignon to celebrate and toast.
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But it's those little celebrations, go out and do something nice for yourself.
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You'll be glad that you did.
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Again, emergency reserves are not the most talked about part of your financial life, but they're one of the most impactful, they're foundational.
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When it comes to the old builder adage is when you're building a house, the first two things you wanna make sure are in place.
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So, a good foundation and a good roof emergency reserves are the good foundation.
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The rest you can build up over time, and when life throws you something unexpected, having the right cash buffer let's you stay calm, stay protected, and stay on course.
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Next time we'll be diving into investing in retirement, which is of course one of the hottest topics, the things that most people want to talk about.
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How to create income, manage the volatility, invest with intention, as you transition into the next phase of your life.
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