Return to Jesus Podcast (Season 1, Episode 10): A Conversation Between Mother and Daughter with Sophia Thompson

In this episode of the Return to Jesus Podcast, host, Jen Thompson, talks with her oldest daughter, Sophia Thompson, about all things related to parenting, grace, the teenage years and relationships between siblings and parents. This is conversation you won’t want to miss! 

Episode Transcript

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Hi everyone.
Welcome to the return to Jesus podcast.
I am so excited.
So for those of you that tuned in the last two weeks due to some technical error, one week turned into two.
I had my husband Patrick Thompson as a guest and we had so much fun talking and tonight, today, whatever time you're watching or listening, I have my daughter.

(00:33):
Sophia Thompson here to talk to me and she's so uncomfortable right now.
.999She doesn't like, like before we started and she was like, do we really have to do this? I'm excited.
Are you? Well, it's okay. 9 00:00:46,360.1 --> 00:00:52,930.001 It's okay if you're not a little bit, but she is adorable. 10 00:00:52,930.101 --> 00:00:56,550 Then you are going to love her and we are going to talk about all things.

(00:57):
Family, mother, daughter, teen grace related.
Coming from the perspective of a 19 year old, which I'm super excited about.
I think a lot of people are really gonna enjoy hearing what you have to say.
I hope so.
They are, Sophia.
There's no question. 17 00:01:13,404.999 --> 00:01:18,325 So let me tell you a little bit about my beautiful, wonderful daughter, Sophia.

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Just like with my husband, he didn't get to write his own bio.
Everybody else writes their own bio, but I'm gonna give a little bio for her.
.999Sophia is kind, she's wise, she's smart.
She's compassionate.
She loves to read.
She loves to hang out with her friends.
She loves a Starbucks.
Girl loves some Starbucks coffee.

(01:39):
.999She's a college student, a freshman.
.999We're super proud of her. 28 00:01:42,659.999 --> 00:01:49,050 She's been working really, really hard and her father and I could not be more proud.
.999She is just a beautiful person in every sense of the word and she made me a mom.
.999Like she, I would.
You made me a mom, Sophia.

(02:00):
I did.
Yep, the first time I held you was like, official.
.999So, she's real special, this one.
Um, all my kids are real special. 36 00:02:10,924.999 --> 00:02:12,14.9995 They're all very special. 37 00:02:12,64.9995 --> 00:02:16,545.0005 But yeah, I just really appreciate you willing to step out of your comfort zone. 38 00:02:16,555.0005 --> 00:02:18,325.0005 And Sophia's adventurous. 39 00:02:18,915.0005 --> 00:02:21,135.0005 Girl loves some adventure. 40 00:02:21,875.0005 --> 00:02:22,389.9005 Like, yeah. 41 00:02:22,840.0005 --> 00:02:26,670.0005 Roller coasters, you didn't like them at first, but you, but you love them now. 42 00:02:26,720.0005 --> 00:02:27,90.0005 Yeah. 43 00:02:27,460.0005 --> 00:02:27,860.0005 Yeah. 44 00:02:27,870.0005 --> 00:02:28,570.0005 I just love them. 45 00:02:28,580.0005 --> 00:02:29,560.0005 Like hiking. 46 00:02:29,570.0005 --> 00:02:33,520.0005 Like you just, you like to, you like to get out there and do things. 47 00:02:33,609.9995 --> 00:02:34,750.0005 You love to do things. 48 00:02:34,880.0005 --> 00:02:36,170.0005 I love that about you. 49 00:02:37,130.0005 --> 00:02:42,479.9995 That even if you aren't so excited about something, you're still willing to get out there and do it anyways. 50 00:02:42,739.9995 --> 00:02:44,180.0005 I like being spontaneous. 51 00:02:44,320.0005 --> 00:02:45,190.0005 Yes. 52 00:02:45,270.0005 --> 00:02:46,240.0005 That's your thing. 53 00:02:46,240.1005 --> 00:02:46,779.9005 Mm hmm. 54 00:02:47,390.0005 --> 00:02:49,630.0005 Which is, and spontaneity is fun. 55 00:02:49,640.0005 --> 00:02:50,790.0005 For better or for worse. 56 00:02:50,890.0005 --> 00:02:51,260.0005 For better. 57 00:02:51,260.1005 --> 00:02:54,550.0005 I love that. 58 00:02:54,550.0005 --> 00:02:55,630.0005 Depends on the day. 59 00:02:55,630.1005 --> 00:02:57,390.0005 I love that. 60 00:02:59,470.0005 --> 00:03:04,120.0005 But you know, I like when I have room in my life for spontaneity. 61 00:03:04,770.0005 --> 00:03:10,880.0005 I feel like the older I have grown, the less room there has been for spontaneity. 62 00:03:11,580.0005 --> 00:03:20,110.0005 But I try to leave some space because on those days when It's not all back to back to back playin Yeah, I have a lot less responsibility. 63 00:03:20,880.0005 --> 00:03:21,160.0005 Yeah. 64 00:03:21,160.1005 --> 00:03:21,910.0005 It's a lot easier. 65 00:03:22,100.0005 --> 00:03:22,290.0005 Yeah. 66 00:03:22,320.0005 --> 00:03:22,750.0005 Right now. 67 00:03:22,880.0005 --> 00:03:29,360.0005 Yeah, you're in the zone where you can, like, embrace this spontaneous life you can live. 68 00:03:29,370.0005 --> 00:03:29,860.0005 Mm hmm. 69 00:03:30,410.0005 --> 00:03:30,650.0005 Yes. 70 00:03:31,510.0005 --> 00:03:33,120.0005 It's what being a kid is about. 71 00:03:33,180.0005 --> 00:03:33,590.0005 Yeah. 72 00:03:33,930.0005 --> 00:03:36,660.0005 I'm glad that you're embracing the spontaneous. 73 00:03:36,770.0005 --> 00:03:37,390.0005 Me too. 74 00:03:37,450.0005 --> 00:03:37,710.0005 Yeah. 75 00:03:37,740.0005 --> 00:03:39,410.0005 I guess, like you said, for better or for worse. 76 00:03:39,890.0005 --> 00:03:40,330.0005 I agree. 77 00:03:40,330.0005 --> 00:03:42,809.9995 We some days don't embrace makes things exciting though. 78 00:03:43,600.0005 --> 00:03:44,609.9995 It sure does. 79 00:03:45,270.0005 --> 00:03:45,919.9995 So, okay. 80 00:03:45,919.9995 --> 00:03:47,329.9995 So here, we're going to hop into the questions. 81 00:03:47,330.0005 --> 00:03:52,340.0005 So for those of you that have not listened before, the podcast has two parts to it. 82 00:03:52,830.0005 --> 00:04:14,889.9025 The first part is more spiritually focused, a big heart of mine behind the Return to Jesus, podcast and my book is just helping people to recognize that we all have unique personalities and unique relationships with the Lord and, seasons change and we are not meant to be stagnant and our relationship with the Lord is not. 83 00:04:14,890.1025 --> 00:04:24,700.0025 And so, I just really want to encourage people to find the habits and rhythms that work for them in whatever their season may be. 84 00:04:25,30.0025 --> 00:04:29,580.0025 So this is really great because you're a 19 year old in college. 85 00:04:29,600.0015 --> 00:04:42,30.0025 Like so, I mean, my rhythms and habits, it was just a lot of sleeping and studying, yeah, and et cetera, et cetera. 86 00:04:42,290.0025 --> 00:04:42,680.0025 Yeah. 87 00:04:43,150.0025 --> 00:04:44,180.0025 So, Sophia. 88 00:04:44,535.0025 --> 00:04:48,145.0025 this doesn't just have to be in the season, but just like all throughout your life. 89 00:04:49,95.0025 --> 00:05:13,930.0025 What are some times when you have felt more connected to God? Like what are some moments in your life when you really felt his presence? I feel like, I feel like a lot of people can say this, but it's easier for me to feel more connected when I'm going through a hard time in life because even if that's It's not exactly what I should be doing. 90 00:05:13,950.0025 --> 00:05:25,280.0025 I feel like that's when I find myself praying a lot more and asking a lot more questions and kind of trying to figure out the why more than, you know, when things are going good. 91 00:05:25,380.0025 --> 00:05:25,720.0025 Yeah. 92 00:05:25,720.0025 --> 00:05:30,960.0025 I feel like it's easy for me to, you know, push it aside more than I should. 93 00:05:31,70.0025 --> 00:05:32,180.0025 Yeah, that makes sense. 94 00:05:32,190.0025 --> 00:05:37,460.0025 So it's when it's a harder time, then you're much more likely to turn to God. 95 00:05:37,510.0025 --> 00:05:37,860.0025 Yeah. 96 00:05:39,425.0025 --> 00:05:53,785.0025 It's in seasons of my life where I don't feel so, like, crowded by everything happening in life, you know? Like, it's harder right now when I feel like my priority is such, school oriented and, friends and stuff like that. 97 00:05:54,125.0035 --> 00:06:02,955.0035 It's more difficult for me to find the space than even in the summer when I don't have much to do and I can take more. 98 00:06:03,215.0035 --> 00:06:06,335.0035 It's easier when I can take time out of my day to do it. 99 00:06:06,355.0035 --> 00:06:07,365.0035 And I know I can. 100 00:06:08,655.0035 --> 00:06:13,205.0035 But I feel like I think about it more when I have more space. 101 00:06:13,845.0035 --> 00:06:22,625.0035 Yeah, I'm so glad that you said that because that is another one of my hearts behind the message of returning to Jesus because I am very much that way too. 102 00:06:22,665.0035 --> 00:06:28,655.0025 Like when I have more space, I might have been much more likely to turn to God or in harder times. 103 00:06:28,815.0025 --> 00:06:29,75.0025 Yeah. 104 00:06:30,65.0025 --> 00:06:38,570.0035 Um, but one of the things that I've come to learn, especially over the past few years is that It doesn't have to be long. 105 00:06:38,610.0035 --> 00:06:46,320.0045 I could just can be small snippets, you know, just Lord, I love you or, Jesus, thank you. 106 00:06:46,480.0045 --> 00:06:48,520.0045 Or it can be these small things. 107 00:06:48,520.0045 --> 00:07:02,850.0045 It doesn't have to be like this grandiose moment, you know? Cause I think a lot of times we feel like it has to be like, I have to take this time and like sit here and for a long time in prayer, but it can be small prayers too. 108 00:07:02,930.0045 --> 00:07:03,430.0045 Yeah. 109 00:07:03,510.0035 --> 00:07:03,790.0035 Yeah. 110 00:07:03,790.0045 --> 00:07:04,910.0045 Just to encourage you. 111 00:07:05,300.0045 --> 00:07:42,295.0035 Yeah, because I know when you are so busy and so pressed it is it can be very hard Yeah to find the time okay, so you kind of maybe touched on this so being a college student now What are some? Spiritual habits or practices that do work for you in this busy time And if you haven't found any that's okay to think that's totally okay Well, I found the time to go to church not as often as I'd like to But, occasionally, being able to just, and I haven't, I don't know if I've found the church I want to. 112 00:07:42,305.0035 --> 00:07:43,165.0025 You're still looking. 113 00:07:43,235.0035 --> 00:07:43,595.0035 Yeah. 114 00:07:43,725.0035 --> 00:07:45,845.0025 But, hopping around. 115 00:07:46,455.0025 --> 00:07:51,995.0035 I don't know, it also brings back some like, familiarity too, because it's so different being on my own. 116 00:07:52,35.0025 --> 00:07:55,825.0035 But then going back to church, it's like, wait, I, like, I know this, I like this. 117 00:07:55,865.0035 --> 00:07:56,755.0035 Yeah. 118 00:07:56,825.0035 --> 00:08:05,180.0035 it's definitely something that has been harder to keep up this semester, but, it's I love it. 119 00:08:05,470.0035 --> 00:08:06,300.0035 I love doing it. 120 00:08:06,690.0035 --> 00:08:08,60.0035 And like, just prayer. 121 00:08:08,570.0035 --> 00:08:11,540.0035 That's really the other biggest thing for me. 122 00:08:11,820.0025 --> 00:08:19,480.0035 And I have started journaling in the last like month or so, just because I don't know if life gets ahead of me. 123 00:08:20,470.0035 --> 00:08:22,460.0035 It's definitely nice to sit in my thoughts. 124 00:08:22,470.0035 --> 00:08:25,310.0035 Do you feel like just journaling help you? Yes. 125 00:08:25,410.0035 --> 00:08:25,840.0035 Yeah. 126 00:08:26,0.0035 --> 00:08:31,24.9035 I feel like getting everything that I want to say out. 127 00:08:31,505.0035 --> 00:08:34,145.0035 Without, you know, having to tell people. 128 00:08:34,165.0035 --> 00:08:37,545.0035 It feels, it feels like a form of prayer, almost. 129 00:08:37,745.0035 --> 00:08:38,515.0035 Oh, I agree. 130 00:08:38,955.0035 --> 00:08:41,955.003 I've actually started, um, in the mornings. 131 00:08:41,955.003 --> 00:08:44,945.0025 That's one of my big things, is my prayer journal. 132 00:08:45,205.0025 --> 00:08:50,365.0035 And it starts off as a journal, just me just writing, like, my thoughts and feelings and whatnot. 133 00:08:50,385.0025 --> 00:08:52,445.0025 And then it evolves into prayer. 134 00:08:52,525.0025 --> 00:09:00,75.0035 It very much It's like a sacred space because it's just you and your thoughts and then if you pray then God. 135 00:09:00,225.0035 --> 00:09:00,445.0035 Yeah. 136 00:09:00,665.0035 --> 00:09:03,275.0035 And sometimes it's easier to write it out than to think it. 137 00:09:03,615.0025 --> 00:09:04,105.0025 Oh. 138 00:09:04,645.0035 --> 00:09:04,765.0035 Yes. 139 00:09:05,400.0035 --> 00:09:09,460.0035 And it helps, it makes certain things make sense that maybe didn't make sense. 140 00:09:09,470.0035 --> 00:09:12,360.0035 You can organize all that stuff that's going on in there. 141 00:09:13,250.0035 --> 00:09:15,870.0035 Well, thank you, Sophia, for sharing those things. 142 00:09:16,200.0025 --> 00:09:18,630.0035 Those are great, those are great, uh, habits. 143 00:09:18,650.0035 --> 00:09:24,990.0035 And I love that you're journaling and that you're finding a church that you're trying to search for that. 144 00:09:25,20.0035 --> 00:09:28,140.0035 And I love how you said that there's peace in that familiarity. 145 00:09:28,230.0035 --> 00:09:31,380.0035 And even keeping up the Bible study that you run. 146 00:09:31,765.0035 --> 00:09:33,575.0035 Um, at our house, anything like that. 147 00:09:33,685.0035 --> 00:09:37,455.0035 Oh, I love that you girls have still wanted to do that. 148 00:09:37,995.0035 --> 00:09:41,325.0035 It's, I, that's another thing that like, along with the familiarity. 149 00:09:41,365.0035 --> 00:09:46,595.0025 I like, just keeping that up and having that constant in my life. 150 00:09:46,605.0025 --> 00:09:50,475.0025 So, I will say for anybody that's listening to this that hasn't heard this. 151 00:09:50,485.0035 --> 00:09:58,425.0035 So, I started doing this Bible study with Sophia and some of her friends when you were in seventh grade. 152 00:09:58,745.0035 --> 00:09:59,825.0035 Start of seventh grade. 153 00:10:00,470.0035 --> 00:10:04,720.0035 and they did it all throughout high school, once a month we would meet. 154 00:10:05,480.0035 --> 00:10:15,270.0035 And then after high school, I kind of assumed that they would want to be finished, but then they still want to meet over their breaks, and we met over Winter break. 155 00:10:15,270.0035 --> 00:10:18,680.0035 Winter break, and it was just so wonderful. 156 00:10:18,700.0035 --> 00:10:21,900.0035 Um, oh, I just cherish these girls so much. 157 00:10:21,900.0035 --> 00:10:36,415.0035 It's a, it's always a good catch up, because even like since high school, We've all kind of gone our different routes, but I feel like we'll always have that connection through God too, because like, I don't know, doing the same devotions together and learning the same things. 158 00:10:36,475.0035 --> 00:10:37,925.003 Yes! It's great. 159 00:10:37,925.003 --> 00:10:44,345.0035 Yeah, and you know you have that shared faith, and you have prayed for each other over the years, and you continue to pray for each other. 160 00:10:44,355.0035 --> 00:10:53,625.0035 Yeah, I mean those girls are some of the most comfortable people I would feel talking about faith, just because of that shared experience. 161 00:10:53,975.0035 --> 00:10:57,585.0035 Yeah, for, for a long time, you guys have had that sharing experience. 162 00:10:58,255.0035 --> 00:11:04,185.0035 And then, now her sisters and then her brother, they do the study too, with their own friends. 163 00:11:04,195.0035 --> 00:11:04,495.0035 Yeah. 164 00:11:04,555.0035 --> 00:11:05,135.0025 Every month. 165 00:11:05,595.0035 --> 00:11:07,285.0035 It's just been such a sweet thing. 166 00:11:07,325.0035 --> 00:11:08,505.0025 So I love that you said that. 167 00:11:09,35.0035 --> 00:11:11,315.0025 So we're going to switch and talk about Grace now. 168 00:11:11,385.0035 --> 00:11:11,785.0035 Okay. 169 00:11:12,15.0025 --> 00:11:12,925.0035 We're going to talk about Grace. 170 00:11:12,935.0035 --> 00:11:13,85.0035 Yeah. 171 00:11:13,85.0035 --> 00:11:14,865.0035 And I actually, I didn't write this down. 172 00:11:15,685.0035 --> 00:11:17,645.0035 This isn't a question we've talked about before. 173 00:11:17,645.0035 --> 00:11:18,135.0035 Okay. 174 00:11:18,145.0035 --> 00:11:25,215.0035 And, but, I don't think it's going to be like, oh, why are you asking me that? But it's something I realized I ask everybody. 175 00:11:25,285.0035 --> 00:11:32,295.0035 And so I'm just curious, when you hear the word grace, what does that mean to you? Yeah. 176 00:11:32,325.0035 --> 00:11:44,625.0045 I mean, above all, like, you know, first word that pops to my head is forgiveness, like plain and simple, but I feel like beyond that it's forgiveness. 177 00:11:46,600.0045 --> 00:11:48,910.0045 Without rhyme or reason. 178 00:11:49,560.0045 --> 00:11:54,770.0045 I feel like, you know, to be loved is to be given grace. 179 00:11:54,810.0045 --> 00:11:59,120.0045 In times where it's maybe not so easy to give grace. 180 00:11:59,260.0045 --> 00:11:59,720.0045 Yeah. 181 00:12:00,320.0035 --> 00:12:00,620.0035 Yeah. 182 00:12:01,10.0035 --> 00:12:07,690.0035 So it's like, it is a, it's a, a gift that's always available regardless. 183 00:12:08,150.0035 --> 00:12:09,700.0035 It's not, you can't earn it. 184 00:12:10,670.0025 --> 00:12:12,280.0035 It's just a gift that's given. 185 00:12:12,390.0035 --> 00:12:12,700.0035 Yeah. 186 00:12:13,120.0035 --> 00:12:13,500.0035 Yeah. 187 00:12:14,460.0045 --> 00:12:15,580.0045 That's what I think of, too. 188 00:12:15,830.0045 --> 00:12:18,970.0045 It's that it can't be taken away. 189 00:12:18,980.0045 --> 00:12:19,800.0045 You can't earn it. 190 00:12:20,320.0045 --> 00:12:21,620.0045 It's always available. 191 00:12:22,30.0045 --> 00:12:22,410.0045 Yeah. 192 00:12:22,750.0035 --> 00:12:23,580.004 It's like love. 193 00:12:23,580.004 --> 00:12:24,350.0045 It's like you said. 194 00:12:24,380.0045 --> 00:12:24,690.0045 Exactly. 195 00:12:24,730.0045 --> 00:12:25,480.0045 It is love. 196 00:12:25,780.0045 --> 00:12:26,0.004 Yeah. 197 00:12:26,0.004 --> 00:12:27,620.0045 They go together, hand in hand. 198 00:12:27,670.0045 --> 00:12:28,350.0045 Unconditional. 199 00:12:28,530.0045 --> 00:12:29,770.0045 Unconditional love. 200 00:12:29,970.0045 --> 00:12:31,30.0035 Yes, Sophia. 201 00:12:31,170.0045 --> 00:12:34,790.0045 Okay, so our family, like I said, Sophia's the oldest. 202 00:12:35,540.0045 --> 00:12:37,240.0045 She has three siblings. 203 00:12:38,665.0045 --> 00:12:39,375.0045 We're all two years apart. 204 00:12:39,475.0045 --> 00:12:40,375.0045 Yeah, two years apart. 205 00:12:40,385.0045 --> 00:12:41,285.0045 I guess we can just say that. 206 00:12:41,285.0045 --> 00:12:42,465.0045 We don't need to go into ages. 207 00:12:42,465.0045 --> 00:12:44,355.0045 But yeah, everybody's two years apart. 208 00:12:45,55.0045 --> 00:12:46,635.0035 So, yeah, six of us. 209 00:12:47,5.0035 --> 00:12:47,425.0045 Mm hmm. 210 00:12:47,625.0045 --> 00:12:48,985.0045 And two cats. 211 00:12:49,365.0045 --> 00:12:50,125.0035 That is true. 212 00:12:50,145.0045 --> 00:12:51,355.0035 We can't forget them. 213 00:12:51,375.0035 --> 00:12:52,725.0045 I bet they give them a lot of grease. 214 00:12:52,935.0045 --> 00:12:54,325.0045 Yeah, we sure do. 215 00:12:54,865.0045 --> 00:12:59,145.0045 Because I didn't think they would ever be on the counters. 216 00:12:59,185.0045 --> 00:13:01,105.0045 And they're on them every day. 217 00:13:01,105.0045 --> 00:13:02,195.0045 And now they are on the counters. 218 00:13:04,345.0045 --> 00:13:05,975.0045 Sorry if that grosses anybody out. 219 00:13:06,115.0045 --> 00:13:08,264.9045 But they can't, they can't relate. 220 00:13:08,265.0045 --> 00:13:08,935.0045 They like it there. 221 00:13:08,945.0045 --> 00:13:11,335.0045 They do! Yeah, so we give them grace. 222 00:13:12,445.0045 --> 00:13:13,915.0045 Cause, even if they don't know it. 223 00:13:13,925.0045 --> 00:13:16,265.004 No, they are, because they are in charge of the house. 224 00:13:16,265.004 --> 00:13:16,815.0035 That's true. 225 00:13:16,855.0045 --> 00:13:18,435.0045 They actually are in charge of all of us. 226 00:13:18,435.0045 --> 00:13:19,405.0045 Yeah, and they know it. 227 00:13:19,405.1045 --> 00:13:20,705.0055 They do know it. 228 00:13:21,315.0045 --> 00:13:24,205.0545 Do you know, Sorry, we're going off scripting. 229 00:13:24,205.0545 --> 00:13:28,375.0045 Zilly is now, gets wet food like four times a day now. 230 00:13:29,545.0045 --> 00:13:30,305.0045 She's gonna be fat. 231 00:13:31,335.0045 --> 00:13:33,605.0045 Can I say that? No. 232 00:13:33,605.0045 --> 00:13:34,814.9045 Oh. 233 00:13:34,815.0045 --> 00:13:36,645.0045 We should not say that about our cat. 234 00:13:36,645.0045 --> 00:13:37,245.0045 I'm sorry. 235 00:13:38,295.0035 --> 00:13:38,935.0045 I'm just teasing. 236 00:13:39,255.0035 --> 00:13:42,469.9045 But she eats, what, four times a day. 237 00:13:43,140.0045 --> 00:13:47,290.0045 And she's just, I find that she sits on the counters and waits for her food. 238 00:13:47,580.0045 --> 00:13:50,870.0045 And she like gets mad at me if I'm not feeding her. 239 00:13:50,970.0045 --> 00:13:56,820.0045 So she like meows in my face and then like takes her paw and like comes at me and it's terrifying. 240 00:13:56,900.0035 --> 00:13:58,165.05425 So you have to give her the food. 241 00:13:58,165.05425 --> 00:13:59,769.9035 She found the time to eat. 242 00:13:59,770.0035 --> 00:14:03,329.9035 That's when Grace maybe goes a bit too far. 243 00:14:03,330.0035 --> 00:14:03,420.0035 Yeah. 244 00:14:03,720.0045 --> 00:14:04,650.0045 It's time to pull back. 245 00:14:04,835.1045 --> 00:14:06,934.9045 It's time to pull back. 246 00:14:06,935.0045 --> 00:14:09,55.0045 It's time for some consequences there. 247 00:14:10,245.0045 --> 00:14:11,235.0045 Oh my, my, my. 248 00:14:11,485.0045 --> 00:14:19,545.0035 So, how, other than silly beans, how have you seen grace play out in our family? you can answer these questions honestly, by the way. 249 00:14:19,585.0035 --> 00:14:24,305.0035 Like, this is, whatever, like, you want to say. 250 00:14:24,865.0035 --> 00:14:28,555.0045 But, do you feel like our family gives grace? Yeah. 251 00:14:29,190.0045 --> 00:14:33,860.0045 I mean, everyone, but you and dad especially, obviously. 252 00:14:34,140.0045 --> 00:14:42,330.0035 I mean, I've obviously found myself in times where I don't feel like I really deserve the grace, and I know that maybe I don't. 253 00:14:43,190.0045 --> 00:14:55,790.0045 And it definitely can play off as more of like a, you know, good cop, bad cop kind of thing, but there will be times where I'll find Wait, are you saying we don't give grace? I'm saying you do give grace. 254 00:14:55,860.0045 --> 00:14:57,80.0045 Oh, we do give grace. 255 00:14:57,80.0045 --> 00:15:16,520.0045 But, I'll, there will, there are certain times where I'll find, like, you know, Dad maybe comforting me in a time where, you know, he knows that I don't really, I didn't really earn any grace, but he'll do it anyways, and vice versa, which is how it should be, I mean. 256 00:15:16,650.0045 --> 00:15:23,565.0045 Yeah, so you feel, you feel that, like, In all, in the situations you're still getting the grace. 257 00:15:23,565.0045 --> 00:15:24,119.9045 Yes. 258 00:15:24,120.0045 --> 00:15:26,460.0045 Which is the best feeling in the world. 259 00:15:26,750.0045 --> 00:15:33,20.0045 To not feel like it's impossible to move on from, like, the situations that I put myself in. 260 00:15:33,320.0045 --> 00:15:43,970.0045 And to know that it's like, okay, maybe, you know, tonight I need to take a step back and think, but this doesn't mean That you guys don't love me or that I'm going to wake up tomorrow and I'm going to get the silent treatment. 261 00:15:43,980.0045 --> 00:15:46,875.43177273 Like, there's no, that would be very sad. 262 00:15:46,875.43177273 --> 00:15:49,510.0045 Oh, that would be so sad. 263 00:15:49,520.0045 --> 00:16:02,620.0045 I'm just saying it's really comforting knowing that I don't, that no matter what the situation is, I never have to worry about being treated any differently than you guys would. 264 00:16:02,630.0045 --> 00:16:04,640.0045 Like again, with like unconditional love. 265 00:16:04,640.0045 --> 00:16:06,630.0045 Like I can feel that more than anything. 266 00:16:07,30.0045 --> 00:16:10,70.0045 Good, I'm so glad to hear that. 267 00:16:11,20.0045 --> 00:16:13,660.0045 Cause that has been definitely a goal of ours. 268 00:16:14,150.0045 --> 00:16:19,910.0035 And to not carry something on, like not hold grudges or carry it on. 269 00:16:20,460.0035 --> 00:16:21,560.0045 Cause that would be sad. 270 00:16:21,900.0045 --> 00:16:23,190.0035 That would be very sad. 271 00:16:23,300.0045 --> 00:16:26,530.0045 To feel like it was just being held over your head. 272 00:16:26,680.0045 --> 00:16:30,100.0045 Yeah, I never ever feel that really. 273 00:16:30,780.0045 --> 00:16:31,920.0045 That's a huge praise. 274 00:16:31,960.0035 --> 00:16:32,330.0035 Yeah. 275 00:16:34,650.0045 --> 00:16:35,240.0045 siblings. 276 00:16:35,280.0045 --> 00:16:35,700.0045 I don't know. 277 00:16:35,720.0045 --> 00:16:50,760.0035 I feel like I can struggle to give grace sometimes in those areas just because I feel like that's what, like, those are the people in my life I am definitely hardest on just because it's like, I mean, I know, I know they're never going to go away. 278 00:16:50,830.0045 --> 00:16:53,20.0045 And like, I know they're always going to love me. 279 00:16:53,20.0045 --> 00:17:02,505.0045 So it's like, if we get in a little fight, it's, it's, I definitely find it harder for me to give Grace in those situations than others. 280 00:17:02,555.0045 --> 00:17:08,975.0045 Yeah, I feel like that's kind of the definition of siblings, too That's like, you know, they're like you said they're not going anywhere. 281 00:17:09,5.0045 --> 00:17:23,630.0045 Yeah, and There's the unconditional love right and you live under the same roof and you know how to get under each other's skin more like more than most people yeah But you know you always have each other's back. 282 00:17:23,680.0045 --> 00:17:24,430.0045 Exactly. 283 00:17:24,570.0045 --> 00:17:25,480.0045 Like above all. 284 00:17:25,570.0045 --> 00:17:25,990.0045 Yeah. 285 00:17:26,30.0045 --> 00:17:28,970.0045 Above all? I love that you said that. 286 00:17:29,880.0045 --> 00:17:34,550.0035 Because that is also something that your dad and I have hoped for you guys. 287 00:17:34,610.0045 --> 00:17:37,490.004 That even if all your personalities aren't just the same. 288 00:17:37,590.004 --> 00:18:07,675.003 Well no, and I'm definitely like not on the same page as, all of us are never like fully on the same page with things just cause, also even though we're all two years apart, only two years apart, there's a huge discrepancy and like Growing, like we're all at different stages, truly, of our lives at this point, and I feel like being able to give grace when we're all going through such different things is really great to see. 289 00:18:07,765.004 --> 00:18:08,45.004 Yeah. 290 00:18:08,295.003 --> 00:18:12,315.004 Well in two years, yeah, when you're young, two years is a big difference, I mean. 291 00:18:12,315.004 --> 00:18:18,365.004 I know, Patrickson, like the difference between a middle schooler and where I'm at is a whole different world. 292 00:18:18,375.004 --> 00:18:18,945.004 Yeah, are six years. 293 00:18:19,5.004 --> 00:18:19,215.004 Yeah. 294 00:18:19,215.004 --> 00:18:19,885.004 Yeah, you are. 295 00:18:20,410.004 --> 00:18:26,262.2530196 He's in 6th grade to college? Whew! He better not understand what we're doing. 296 00:18:26,262.2530196 --> 00:18:27,786.5510588 It's a bit different. 297 00:18:27,786.5510588 --> 00:18:29,310.849098 It's a bit different. 298 00:18:29,310.849098 --> 00:18:29,691.9236078 Okay. 299 00:18:29,691.9236078 --> 00:18:30,454.0726275 Um, okay. 300 00:18:30,454.0726275 --> 00:18:39,599.8608627 So that, that actually falls perfectly into the next, did you see that question there? Cause you just, that was like the perfect answer. 301 00:18:39,599.8608627 --> 00:18:41,505.2334118 Is it about siblings? Yeah. 302 00:18:41,505.2334118 --> 00:18:44,172.7549804 So what are, what are ways? Bye. 303 00:18:44,172.7549804 --> 00:18:44,553.8294902 Yes. 304 00:18:44,553.8294902 --> 00:18:44,934.904 Yes. 305 00:18:46,95.004 --> 00:18:46,765.004 siblings. 306 00:18:46,775.004 --> 00:18:48,955.004 I know, sorry, we're tired. 307 00:18:49,95.004 --> 00:18:54,235.004 Like, just, just to give you also some background, it's Mom's Weekend in Knoxville. 308 00:18:54,385.004 --> 00:18:54,435.004 Yes. 309 00:18:54,435.004 --> 00:18:56,185.004 Woo! So I'm here for the weekend. 310 00:18:56,195.003 --> 00:18:57,605.004 Yes, I'm so excited. 311 00:18:57,605.004 --> 00:19:03,125.003 And it just so, it just so perfectly aligned with, uh, her view from home. 312 00:19:03,125.005 --> 00:19:09,75.003 So God made a grandma book, which if you have not purchased that, you totally should because it's an amazing book. 313 00:19:09,175.003 --> 00:19:19,25.004 Um, but We had a signing this morning and at Knoxville And so the timing worked out great because mom's weekend starts tomorrow. 314 00:19:19,255.004 --> 00:19:33,5.004 So I was like, I'll just come a day early Yeah, so so we had dinner and then we're like hey, let's just record a podcast episode because Spontaneity. 315 00:19:33,185.004 --> 00:19:39,615.004 Yes! Spontaneity! This is the difference between spontaneity as a child versus like, versus yours. 316 00:19:39,645.004 --> 00:19:40,315.004 Versus mine. 317 00:19:40,475.003 --> 00:19:41,725.003 This is what you're talking about. 318 00:19:42,115.004 --> 00:19:43,725.004 I was like, oh, let's do something fun. 319 00:19:43,735.004 --> 00:19:48,34.904 Let's record a podcast episode. 320 00:19:48,35.004 --> 00:19:49,65.004 Slightly different definitions. 321 00:19:51,75.004 --> 00:19:52,885.004 But it does feel spontaneous and fun. 322 00:19:52,885.004 --> 00:19:53,565.004 It's all the same. 323 00:19:53,565.104 --> 00:19:54,575.004 It's all the same. 324 00:19:54,605.004 --> 00:19:55,215.004 It's all the same. 325 00:19:55,575.004 --> 00:19:57,465.004 So anyways, I digress. 326 00:19:58,225.003 --> 00:20:02,495.004 What? are ways that siblings can give grace to each other. 327 00:20:02,535.004 --> 00:20:15,595.004 Is there any like thing that you can think of tangibly that stands out? Like ways? Maybe tensions or when it's harder to give each other, I don't know. 328 00:20:16,5.003 --> 00:20:17,955.004 I guess there's a lot of ways we can go with this question. 329 00:20:18,325.004 --> 00:20:18,815.004 Yeah. 330 00:20:19,425.004 --> 00:20:24,475.003 I mean, I guess, cause, yeah I guess that really does go along with what I was saying earlier. 331 00:20:24,475.003 --> 00:20:24,985.003 Yeah. 332 00:20:25,115.004 --> 00:20:26,845.004 Cause I was telling you that I feel like it's harder. 333 00:20:27,200.004 --> 00:20:27,490.004 Yeah. 334 00:20:27,490.004 --> 00:20:28,30.004 Give them grace. 335 00:20:28,130.004 --> 00:20:28,560.004 It is. 336 00:20:29,0.004 --> 00:20:37,610.004 But, the overarching thing is you always will, but as far as like ways I can give them grace, I don't know. 337 00:20:37,780.004 --> 00:20:50,650.004 Similar to what I was saying earlier, I feel like taking a step back and looking at the fact, like especially again, like with Patrick, having a six year age difference, I mean, his vocabulary is entirely different than mine. 338 00:20:50,710.004 --> 00:20:52,130.004 He's all skibbity rib. 339 00:20:52,330.004 --> 00:20:57,10.004 Yeah, everything he doesn't says in like ways he acts are so different. 340 00:20:57,20.003 --> 00:21:04,170.003 And I find myself getting a short temper with that on occasion just cause it's, it's different and it's hard. 341 00:21:04,430.003 --> 00:21:05,420.003 Or the way he'll talk. 342 00:21:06,45.004 --> 00:21:10,145.004 To, like, you know, people in my life and I'm like, Patrick, like, you need to slow down. 343 00:21:10,145.104 --> 00:21:17,805.004 But then I feel like when you look at the bigger picture, it's like, okay, like, this is who he is. 344 00:21:17,815.004 --> 00:21:26,435.004 Why am I, why am I getting upset at him for him being him? So and he's younger. 345 00:21:26,445.004 --> 00:21:27,385.004 Yeah, exactly. 346 00:21:27,445.004 --> 00:21:38,975.003 So I don't know really just looking at the bigger picture that's great advice for everybody just in every situation to take a step back if you're starting to get frustrated or annoyed Take a step back. 347 00:21:39,25.004 --> 00:21:49,715.004 Take a deep breath Mm hmm and look at the bigger picture right that can help in so many ways so many so many situations Yeah, just pausing Yeah. 348 00:21:49,855.004 --> 00:21:53,845.004 A take and a pause is a, has a very positive effect. 349 00:21:53,925.004 --> 00:21:54,335.004 100%. 350 00:21:54,395.004 --> 00:21:55,825.004 So I love that you said that. 351 00:21:55,845.004 --> 00:21:58,595.004 That that's something that you can do with your siblings. 352 00:21:58,705.004 --> 00:21:59,145.004 Yeah. 353 00:21:59,375.004 --> 00:22:02,605.004 That's a really, uh, a good skill set to have. 354 00:22:02,645.004 --> 00:22:03,35.004 Yeah. 355 00:22:03,675.003 --> 00:22:12,889.904 I mean, same with, cause even like Nyla and I have, I feel like gotten closer over the past couple of years, but you know, she'll do something little that like bugs me, like maybe even if it's. 356 00:22:12,970.004 --> 00:22:18,840.004 It's not closing my door all the way before she leaves my room, and then, and then now I'm annoyed at her, and then it's like. 357 00:22:19,365.004 --> 00:22:19,795.004 I don't know. 358 00:22:19,805.004 --> 00:22:20,375.004 I feel like. 359 00:22:20,685.004 --> 00:22:24,165.004 So what do you do? Do you get up and close your door or do you yell for her? I yell. 360 00:22:24,495.004 --> 00:22:25,255.004 That's what I would do. 361 00:22:25,315.004 --> 00:22:25,595.004 Yeah. 362 00:22:25,595.104 --> 00:22:26,905.004 That's 100 percent what I would do. 363 00:22:26,995.004 --> 00:22:27,134.954 Yeah. 364 00:22:27,134.954 --> 00:22:28,585.0035 Like I, there is no way I would get up. 365 00:22:28,585.0035 --> 00:22:29,403.618 I would just scream and call. 366 00:22:29,403.618 --> 00:22:31,165.003 And if she doesn't answer, if she doesn't answer, I text. 367 00:22:31,195.004 --> 00:22:31,415.004 Yeah. 368 00:22:31,415.104 --> 00:22:32,985.004 If she doesn't text back, I call. 369 00:22:33,555.004 --> 00:22:34,535.004 Get in here. 370 00:22:34,535.004 --> 00:22:34,885.004 Yeah. 371 00:22:34,885.004 --> 00:22:35,585.003 I would do that. 372 00:22:35,585.103 --> 00:22:35,795.003 Even now if I age. 373 00:22:35,795.003 --> 00:22:36,935.0035 It's a battle of the wills. 374 00:22:36,935.0035 --> 00:22:39,55.004 I will not close that door if she opened it. 375 00:22:39,55.004 --> 00:22:40,815.004 And if somebody came, I would, yeah. 376 00:22:40,825.004 --> 00:22:41,125.004 Yeah. 377 00:22:41,165.004 --> 00:22:42,595.004 You just like, can't move. 378 00:22:42,595.004 --> 00:22:44,25.004 Especially if you're in a cozy bed. 379 00:22:44,355.004 --> 00:22:44,825.004 Exactly. 380 00:22:44,825.104 --> 00:22:45,724.904 No. 381 00:22:45,725.004 --> 00:22:46,715.003 That's not happening. 382 00:22:46,725.004 --> 00:22:46,965.0035 Yeah. 383 00:22:46,965.0035 --> 00:22:47,205.003 No. 384 00:22:47,750.004 --> 00:22:49,30.004 That's good stuff, Sophia. 385 00:22:49,40.004 --> 00:22:52,410.004 I'm gonna make sure I'm practicing that in my life, too. 386 00:22:52,460.004 --> 00:22:52,960.004 Me too. 387 00:22:53,10.004 --> 00:22:54,840.004 Take a pause, look at the bigger picture. 388 00:22:55,130.004 --> 00:23:01,680.004 And remember, another thing, too, I think is that you never know what's happening in somebody's day. 389 00:23:01,920.004 --> 00:23:15,930.003 Like, unless you've had a deep conversation with one of your siblings and, like, really unpacked their day, there could be a reason maybe they're being extra annoying or forget to close the door or whatever little annoyance it might be. 390 00:23:16,610.004 --> 00:23:27,330.003 Yeah, maybe they're carrying something that's bigger that you can't see maybe an argument with a friend or a 100 percent or a bad, grade on a test or whatever it may be. 391 00:23:27,330.004 --> 00:23:44,80.004 There's a lot of things that can affect people Yeah detrimentally and I think especially you said it before and you hit the nail on the head of We take things out so much more on our families, I feel like, than anywhere else. 392 00:23:44,90.004 --> 00:23:45,350.004 It's easier too. 393 00:23:45,370.004 --> 00:23:46,140.004 It's so much easier. 394 00:23:46,140.004 --> 00:23:52,830.004 So if you've had some horrible day, you're likely to come home and to kind of unleash that on your family. 395 00:23:52,830.004 --> 00:23:54,360.003 Without even telling them why. 396 00:23:54,690.003 --> 00:23:57,480.003 Like I'm snapping at you. 397 00:23:58,315.004 --> 00:23:59,765.004 About what's for dinner. 398 00:23:59,985.004 --> 00:24:00,185.004 Right. 399 00:24:00,185.004 --> 00:24:01,255.004 Because this happened. 400 00:24:01,305.004 --> 00:24:03,755.004 It's like, no, you're just snapping about what's for dinner. 401 00:24:03,815.004 --> 00:24:04,265.004 Yeah. 402 00:24:04,585.004 --> 00:24:06,145.004 You're not with an explanation. 403 00:24:06,185.004 --> 00:24:06,735.004 So that's good. 404 00:24:06,915.004 --> 00:24:08,575.004 So look to aerial view. 405 00:24:09,275.004 --> 00:24:11,165.004 Okay, another question. 406 00:24:11,185.004 --> 00:24:12,875.004 Sophia, we only have a couple more. 407 00:24:14,125.004 --> 00:24:15,885.004 Okay, so the teen years. 408 00:24:17,655.005 --> 00:24:19,775.005 You're actually coming to the end of them. 409 00:24:20,315.005 --> 00:24:22,5.005 Yeah, that's weird. 410 00:24:22,95.005 --> 00:24:23,405.005 Isn't that weird? It's really weird. 411 00:24:23,405.105 --> 00:24:25,695.004 You're like coming to the end of your teenage years. 412 00:24:26,170.005 --> 00:24:26,910.005 I don't like that. 413 00:24:27,10.005 --> 00:24:27,930.005 Well, we don't have to say it. 414 00:24:28,210.005 --> 00:24:29,20.005 I won't say that again. 415 00:24:30,640.005 --> 00:24:31,0.005 Okay, don't. 416 00:24:32,600.005 --> 00:24:33,870.005 I'll just pretend like I never said it. 417 00:24:34,400.005 --> 00:24:42,180.005 Um, is there anything that surprised you about being a teenager, Sophia? Is it everything you thought it would be? No. 418 00:24:43,520.004 --> 00:24:54,504.905 I mean, I feel like people, maybe, whether it's like stereotypically or like adults or whatever, make it out to be it. 419 00:24:55,45.005 --> 00:24:57,655.005 Incredibly different than it is. 420 00:24:57,715.005 --> 00:24:58,945.005 Yeah, and it's all about that. 421 00:24:58,995.005 --> 00:25:33,55.005 It's not to say that it's not hard because it is I mean, I feel like all of the you know more hard things in my life have happened in the last couple of years just because That's like this year Entirely learning how I guess not entirely but learning to live on my own in a different way than I ever have Like that was a crazy change even high school like Not going to school freshman year created a whole different atmosphere for me going into high school, just being thrown into. 422 00:25:33,85.005 --> 00:25:34,5.005 Nice sophomore year. 423 00:25:34,45.005 --> 00:25:35,675.005 Yeah, just being thrown into that. 424 00:25:36,35.004 --> 00:25:43,475.004 But I feel like people make out people to be a lot more mean in your teenage years than they are. 425 00:25:43,765.004 --> 00:25:46,915.004 And you can find a lot of really, really good people. 426 00:25:47,485.004 --> 00:25:49,5.004 And I. 427 00:25:49,390.005 --> 00:25:58,570.005 I feel like there's always this worry like going into like high school or even middle school where it's just like oh like Like, you know, it's gonna be like these are the hardest years. 428 00:25:58,580.005 --> 00:26:01,130.005 Like yeah, like this is this is awful You're gonna be moving. 429 00:26:01,130.005 --> 00:26:03,360.005 So people make they make you like dread it almost. 430 00:26:03,680.005 --> 00:26:22,475.005 Yeah Oh, you're going into I don't really think like I ever dreaded it But I will say that I took things really personally when people like even you and dad or like other adults in my life Like just when, if you make, if you would make comments when I'm like 13 or 14, where it's like, oh, like you're a teen, Oh, she's like, she's in a mood. 431 00:26:22,945.005 --> 00:26:26,35.005 It's like, That's a good point. 432 00:26:26,85.005 --> 00:26:30,705.005 That would be annoying, wouldn't it? Yeah, those things used to really set me off. 433 00:26:30,915.005 --> 00:26:32,554.1777273 I would not be very happy about that. 434 00:26:32,554.1777273 --> 00:26:33,510.4686364 Yeah, an internal fuming. 435 00:26:33,510.4686364 --> 00:26:38,5.005 I could see that, because if people are like, oh, she's, you know, in her mid forties. 436 00:26:39,975.005 --> 00:26:41,45.005 I see how it is. 437 00:26:41,535.005 --> 00:26:42,855.005 Yeah, that would be. 438 00:26:42,975.005 --> 00:27:05,415.005 Yeah, but I don't know, I felt very well prepared, like, it's hard to say that much surprised me, I mean there are definitely things that I didn't know or expect, like, of myself I guess, whether that be choices I made, or even like people I hung out with, or anything like that, but. 439 00:27:06,225.005 --> 00:27:10,855.005 I don't, I don't regret any of the experience I've had from any of my teen years. 440 00:27:11,95.005 --> 00:27:15,105.005 There's a reason that they say, like, it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. 441 00:27:15,315.005 --> 00:27:17,425.005 I have definitely grown more. 442 00:27:17,425.105 --> 00:27:20,785.004 The hard experiences of life too. 443 00:27:20,975.004 --> 00:27:21,405.004 Yeah. 444 00:27:21,655.004 --> 00:27:23,955.004 Help, uh, they shape character. 445 00:27:24,195.004 --> 00:27:24,605.004 Yeah. 446 00:27:25,435.004 --> 00:27:41,720.005 And I really appreciate hearing what you said because I think sometimes, as a grown up, that we unintentionally project our experiences onto children. 447 00:27:41,890.005 --> 00:27:42,260.005 Yeah. 448 00:27:42,560.005 --> 00:27:44,440.005 At whatever phase that may be. 449 00:27:44,460.005 --> 00:27:49,70.0045 You know, like if somebody had a bad middle school experience and they're like, Oh, middle school's horrible. 450 00:27:49,70.0045 --> 00:27:49,360.004 Yeah. 451 00:27:49,360.005 --> 00:27:54,930.005 You know, or if somebody struggled to make friends, Oh, finding friends as a teenager is horrible. 452 00:27:54,930.005 --> 00:27:56,20.005 You know, and it's like. 453 00:27:56,20.105 --> 00:27:56,399.905 Yeah. 454 00:27:57,240.005 --> 00:28:07,270.005 I think that what you said is a really good reminder like we can't project our experiences on to this whole age group of people. 455 00:28:07,320.005 --> 00:28:07,730.005 Right. 456 00:28:07,730.105 --> 00:28:09,490.004 Just assume. 457 00:28:09,600.005 --> 00:28:14,250.004 Because going into it with the false image also, you know, taints your idea. 458 00:28:14,440.005 --> 00:28:30,50.005 Well, and as a parent, it's been very interesting for me because I was so Difficult at times as a teenager um I was kind of more of the screaming variety at different times. 459 00:28:30,80.005 --> 00:28:34,150.005 And so I kind of going as a parent Just so you expected. 460 00:28:34,160.004 --> 00:28:35,290.005 Yeah, I did. 461 00:28:35,290.005 --> 00:28:42,680.005 I was like, oh no, we're just gonna all be yelling at each other Yeah, but that hasn't been The experience at all. 462 00:28:42,710.005 --> 00:29:17,102.5175 So because of the way you guys shaped us to be yeah, it's been very different Yeah, so I I really appreciate you saying that And in all sincerity, I will even apologize for the times, like seriously, I am sorry for the times when I was like, Well, it's not something I like, think about, I just, it just came out, I know, but still, it's good to, you know, to own that, Just that unawareness of what it must feel like to have people group you into, She's having a mood. 463 00:29:17,102.5175 --> 00:29:18,625.0675 Because she's 14. 464 00:29:19,445.0675 --> 00:29:22,655.0675 Or because I just had something really unpleasant happen to me. 465 00:29:23,35.0675 --> 00:29:24,705.0675 That I'm trying to sort through. 466 00:29:25,235.0675 --> 00:29:27,205.0665 And then that's kind of dismissive too. 467 00:29:27,255.0665 --> 00:29:28,905.0675 Like, oh, it's just a teenage thing. 468 00:29:28,935.0675 --> 00:29:29,305.0675 Right. 469 00:29:29,455.0675 --> 00:29:31,435.0675 Like, oh, she's just being a teenager. 470 00:29:31,495.0675 --> 00:29:31,965.0675 Yeah. 471 00:29:32,135.0675 --> 00:29:37,255.0675 That's incredibly dismissive of whatever it is that you're going through. 472 00:29:37,315.0675 --> 00:29:37,755.0675 Yeah. 473 00:29:37,955.0675 --> 00:29:38,395.0675 Really. 474 00:29:39,245.0675 --> 00:29:40,705.0675 So that's good stuff, Sophia. 475 00:29:41,35.0675 --> 00:29:46,195.0675 Okay, last but not least, and maybe you already did this just now. 476 00:29:47,825.0675 --> 00:29:54,475.0675 Is there anything you want to say to parents of teens? Wow. 477 00:29:54,735.0675 --> 00:29:57,895.0675 I feel like I do not have the credibility to be speaking on that. 478 00:29:57,895.0675 --> 00:30:02,565.0675 But you do, because you are currently a teenager. 479 00:30:02,565.1675 --> 00:30:12,60.0675 I mean Or, how about this? We'll shift it. 480 00:30:12,490.0675 --> 00:30:20,407.2532143 Is there anything that you wish I guess it's still the same question. 481 00:30:20,407.2532143 --> 00:30:24,750.0675 Yeah, basically the way I'm reframing it in my mind is just the same question. 482 00:30:26,590.0665 --> 00:30:34,740.0675 But yeah, is there anything you want to say to parents of teenagers? Really, just along with what we've talked about this whole time. 483 00:30:35,960.0675 --> 00:30:36,470.0675 Grace. 484 00:30:36,670.0675 --> 00:30:37,130.0675 Above. 485 00:30:38,110.0675 --> 00:30:57,420.0675 above everything just because there are situations, at least between our relationship where I'm not you, but I can 100 percent see there being times where it feels like maybe I don't deserve the grace in the moment or I shouldn't. 486 00:30:57,760.0675 --> 00:31:10,780.0675 Well, yes, but like there, there are times when it's definitely harder to, you know, Show me love when I'm doing certain things. 487 00:31:11,160.0675 --> 00:31:19,650.0675 And I feel like just holding that above everything, especially because you guys were in our shoes at one point too. 488 00:31:20,140.0675 --> 00:31:30,600.0665 And I feel like being able to look at it from that perspective, further than just a parenting perspective, gives it a whole different meaning, I guess. 489 00:31:31,10.0665 --> 00:31:34,160.0665 Because it's, yeah, it's a different world. 490 00:31:35,565.0675 --> 00:31:41,715.0675 Living what I, like, what I'm doing versus what you're doing and Oh goodness, yes. 491 00:31:42,355.0675 --> 00:31:47,155.068 Well, yeah, and what you navigate as a teenager, I have no point of reference. 492 00:31:47,325.068 --> 00:31:57,579.968 I have no point of reference for the things that you navigate as a teenager now, compared to what I did a long, long time ago. 493 00:32:01,870.068 --> 00:32:02,766.768 Not that long ago. 494 00:32:02,766.768 --> 00:32:04,439.968 Not that long ago. 495 00:32:04,440.068 --> 00:32:07,0.068 But yeah, I mean it is, it's very different. 496 00:32:07,50.068 --> 00:32:10,150.068 And so, I think those are really great reminders. 497 00:32:10,150.068 --> 00:32:13,270.067 Just to remember, hey, we were kids once too. 498 00:32:13,920.067 --> 00:32:16,580.068 And, it's not the same world. 499 00:32:17,520.068 --> 00:32:23,800.068 And above all, the best way to love somebody is just to, just always be there for them. 500 00:32:23,800.168 --> 00:32:24,532.108 To love them. 501 00:32:24,532.108 --> 00:32:25,264.048 To love them. 502 00:32:25,264.048 --> 00:32:26,239.968 Just to love them. 503 00:32:26,240.068 --> 00:32:27,160.068 No matter what. 504 00:32:28,15.068 --> 00:32:51,345.068 And do you feel like in those moments when maybe something has happened, like what speaks to you the most? Like if, like, let's say something's happened and your dad and me are, we're talking to you, like, uh, it's like, like a hug in the midst of it all or like, uh, yeah, I feel like to me, like. 505 00:32:51,735.068 --> 00:33:04,615.068 It's the calm after the storm type of thing, where, like, I have a very, very specific memory of, uh, I don't know if it was junior or senior year or something, but, you know, I messed up. 506 00:33:04,665.068 --> 00:33:05,435.068 I came home. 507 00:33:06,55.068 --> 00:33:17,495.067 We just sat and talked for, like, a long, long time, and I remember sitting in your room, and Dad just, dad just like coming into your room and giving me a hug. 508 00:33:18,255.067 --> 00:33:19,905.067 And a hug while I spoke to you. 509 00:33:20,655.067 --> 00:33:35,705.067 Yeah, and just words of affirmation, like him telling me that, you know, it didn't define me and like, it sucks right now, but it's gonna be okay, and that didn't change the words that were said. 510 00:33:36,720.067 --> 00:33:49,460.066 20 minutes earlier when I was being lectured, it just made me realize that, you know, like it won't happen again, but I am okay and this doesn't make me a bad person. 511 00:33:49,530.066 --> 00:33:50,210.066 Yes. 512 00:33:50,270.066 --> 00:34:00,120.066 And I think that like, feeling that instead of just like, like trying to think it out for myself, makes a world of a difference. 513 00:34:00,700.066 --> 00:34:03,369.966 Well that is what grace is, it doesn't, it doesn't. 514 00:34:03,730.066 --> 00:34:04,810.066 Make you a bad person. 515 00:34:04,810.066 --> 00:34:06,520.066 Those things don't define us. 516 00:34:06,525.066 --> 00:34:06,575.066 Yeah. 517 00:34:06,580.066 --> 00:34:09,910.066 And the enemy wants to accuse us and say, oh, look at what you did. 518 00:34:09,910.066 --> 00:34:10,690.066 Now you're bad. 519 00:34:10,930.066 --> 00:34:11,860.066 Right? You're a bad person. 520 00:34:11,860.066 --> 00:34:13,900.066 But that's not the truth at all. 521 00:34:13,930.066 --> 00:34:15,730.066 Everybody makes mistakes. 522 00:34:15,760.066 --> 00:34:17,410.066 Everybody falls down. 523 00:34:17,410.066 --> 00:34:22,900.066 Every single person does things that they wish that they wouldn't have done. 524 00:34:23,20.066 --> 00:34:23,440.066 Yeah. 525 00:34:23,830.066 --> 00:34:29,140.066 But then to, to have that spoken to you in that moment, I'm sure did mean. 526 00:34:29,835.066 --> 00:34:30,755.066 So much. 527 00:34:31,435.066 --> 00:34:32,115.066 So much. 528 00:34:32,125.066 --> 00:34:32,885.066 So much. 529 00:34:32,905.066 --> 00:34:33,225.066 Yeah. 530 00:34:34,115.066 --> 00:34:35,785.066 Well, Sophia, thank you for being brave. 531 00:34:36,45.066 --> 00:34:36,545.066 Of course. 532 00:34:36,555.066 --> 00:34:37,885.066 And thank you for doing this. 533 00:34:37,885.066 --> 00:34:39,355.066 Like, seriously, honey. 534 00:34:39,365.065 --> 00:34:44,745.065 It means the world that you would have such a spontaneous night. 535 00:34:46,335.066 --> 00:34:47,525.066 This is a perfect way to end the night. 536 00:34:47,525.066 --> 00:34:48,295.066 And share so openly. 537 00:34:48,315.066 --> 00:34:49,495.066 Like, I really do. 538 00:34:49,495.066 --> 00:34:50,485.066 I appreciate it. 539 00:34:50,565.066 --> 00:34:51,425.066 I really do. 540 00:34:51,575.066 --> 00:34:52,135.066 Always. 541 00:34:52,325.066 --> 00:34:52,375.066 Always. 542 00:34:53,435.066 --> 00:34:53,965.066 Well. 543 00:34:55,80.066 --> 00:35:14,310.066 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in to the return to Jesus podcast and listening to Sophia and I talk about Grace and family and siblings in the teenage years and all those things This could be like a podcast in and of itself, honestly Yeah, we could just talk about this forever. 544 00:35:14,320.066 --> 00:35:16,380.066 There's so many different things we could go into. 545 00:35:16,390.066 --> 00:35:18,340.066 So many things we could go into. 546 00:35:18,560.066 --> 00:35:23,950.065 Yeah, and it would be just like really good for us to basically turn into like our own little counseling session. 547 00:35:23,950.165 --> 00:35:28,70.0655 All right guys, so stay tuned in. 548 00:35:28,70.0655 --> 00:35:33,600.7813846 I think from now on I'm just bringing my family members on like every week. 549 00:35:33,600.7813846 --> 00:35:34,959.966 I like that. 550 00:35:36,10.066 --> 00:35:40,320.066 Have a wonderful morning, afternoon or evening and whatever it is you're doing. 551 00:35:40,320.066 --> 00:35:45,680.066 Know that you are loved and there is grace to cover all things until next week. 552 00:35:46,150.066 --> 00:35:46,320.066 Bye. 553 00:35:48,943.0035 --> 00:35:52,293.0035 I'm excited to share with you that I have written a book. 554 00:35:52,598.0035 --> 00:35:59,638.0035 Titled Return to Jesus, an invitation to abide with him in every beautiful, stressful, or tedious moment. 555 00:35:59,708.0035 --> 00:36:11,648.0025 It is a dream come true, and I could not be more thrilled to share with you that this book is available online at stores such as Target, Walmart, Amazon, Christian Books, and more. 556 00:36:12,488.0025 --> 00:36:18,328.0035 The book will be available on April 15th, 2025 to purchase in store as well. 557 00:36:18,913.0035 --> 00:36:21,453.0035 And I just really appreciate your support. 558 00:36:21,513.0035 --> 00:36:23,183.0035 It means the world to me. 559 00:36:23,853.0035 --> 00:36:25,963.0035 I could not do this without you. 560 00:36:26,633.0035 --> 00:36:29,773.0035 And I'm just so very grateful. 561 00:36:29,903.0025 --> 00:36:31,773.0035 So be sure to grab your copy today. 562 00:36:31,843.0035 --> 00:36:39,233.0035 Again, it's Return to Jesus, an invitation to abide with Him in every beautiful, stressful, or tedious moment.