October 21, 2024 • 32 mins
Sometimes you see people do these incredibly stupid things. You think, what would possess them to do something so dumb? Often never getting a satisfactory answer. In this episode of Revelizations I set out to answer that questions for you. Thanks for listening
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Hi, I'm Brian James.
Welcome to Revelizations.
Well, I guess it's official.
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Brian James is a diagnosable narcissist.
Did it really take him four episodes just to say he chronically procrastinates?
Then?
Then he wants us to celebrate him following through on what took him a stone's throw
away from a decade to accomplish when anyone else would have taken only a few days?
This is what happens when you get rid of the draft.
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Society decides to celebrate mediocrity and give everyone participation ribbons pinned
on first place trophies.
Now even the most underwhelming accomplishments demand overwhelming celebrations.
Ouch.
Even as a joke, that shoe fits a little too perfectly.
Why did I release four episodes describing in more detail than anyone wanted or asked
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for my journey to releasing this podcast?
Not solely because I'm an egomaniac needing constant adulation, but also because having
it exhaustively played out before you highlights the absurdity of complacency.
It illuminates how foolish it is to have the means and ability to do something that could
provide your life with more contentment, fulfillment, happiness, meaning, joy, yet you don't move
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forward in it because you're getting in your own way.
Maybe you are wanting to get out of your own way, but you don't know where to begin.
I know when I was originally doing my research on how to start a podcast, I would have appreciated
an explicit roadmap on how to do the thing I was trying to do.
In setting up these first four episodes, that was one of the goals I had for them.
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I wanted to show the process of starting a podcast for others to see.
I don't think anyone else's podcast genesis should look like mine.
At least, I would hope not.
Mine reads more as a cautionary tale than a how-to guide, but sometimes you learn how
to do something by watching someone do it the wrong way first.
Still, if you listen carefully, you will see that there is a guide to follow.
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I don't advise following it exactly how I list the steps, especially the panic attack
detour.
In fact, I highly recommend skipping that part if you're setting out to start your
own podcast.
However, should there ever be a nuclear catastrophe and my podcast is the only surviving bit of
knowledge on how to start a podcast, then there is still hope for future civilizations
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to rebuild the podcast library.
I list my equipment, software, and even certain strategies to implement my ideas.
Is it the best?
No.
Would I recommend my podcast to someone that needs help starting their own podcast?
Of course not.
Would I recommend my first few episodes to an enemy who is wanting to get into podcasting
in order to slow them down and confuse them?
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Absolutely.
That is not my target audience, but it is a good niche I carved out for myself.
Another reason why I structured this first series the way I did is because I found that
I really enjoy looking behind the curtain.
I like seeing the process of how something gets made.
I enjoy diving deep into the psyche of people who have accomplished a lot or are about to
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do something mind-boggling.
I find myself thinking about performers about to go on stage in front of thousands of people
for the thousandth time.
Do they still get nervous?
Do they still care?
I think about players in a playoff game.
What emotions are going through their bodies the hours leading up to the big game?
You look at their faces, but they're stoic, not showing any signs of inner turmoil.
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You may even believe that there is none.
They have achieved an inner peace that can make Buddha blush.
Even in the most stressful situations.
You look at them in their eyes and see a calm focus.
Except it's like peering into the eye of a hurricane.
The eye is the only thing that's calm.
Every other area in their body is being ravaged by a category 5 hurricane, but you would never
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know.
It's only after the event, during interviews, you hear how nervous they really were.
They provide a little insight into some of the tumultuous emotions they were feeling.
I always find encouragement when I hear those stories.
If they are literally the best of the best, and they still have negative feelings to overcome,
then maybe a bottom of a barrel type of guy like myself can embrace those unhelpful feelings.
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I too can learn to refocus that energy into something productive in a similar way that
they have.
I didn't know I enjoyed getting to see the inner workings and thought processes to certain
industries as much as I did until I started listening to interview style podcasts.
In those types of podcasts, there is typically a comedian or celebrity interviewing another
celebrity or comedian.
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Often the conversation would sound like two coworkers shooting the breeze about what their
experience has been like in their given field.
They would talk about how it was working with certain celebrities, working with a particular
director, work philosophies, funny insider stories, and so on, like how they got started
in the industry.
If you're interested in getting into movies or TV, I noticed a good place to start is
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to have famous parents, so if you have that going for you, then your odds are looking
pretty good.
If you don't have famous parents, don't be too disheartened.
I also noticed having a lot of money for donations into certain pockets has also proven
to be a successful strategy.
On one of these comedian interview podcasts, I was listening to a guest tell the host about
an experience he had with George Carlin.
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If you haven't heard of George Carlin, you probably have and didn't realize it.
He was a groundbreaking, wildly successful, prolific comedian.
He could fill up high occupancy venues with people wanting to hear him perform, and he
did.
On what would be one of his last comedy special tours, he was in the green room waiting to
go on stage.
While he was waiting, another comedian, the one who was originally telling this story,
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whose name I'm leaving out because I was sworn to secrecy to not divulge their identity,
or because I simply can't remember.
And the moments before his show was set to start, George Carlin asked this other comedian
if anyone was in the theater.
Did anyone show up?
He was in disbelief that George Carlin, one of his inspirations to getting into comedy,
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asked if people were in the audience.
Of course there was, it was packed, a full house, and they were eager for him to appear
on stage.
Even though George Carlin had been performing comedy in front of crowds since the 60s, even
though he was a very successful comedian, he still had that insecurity.
That sometimes quiet, sometimes all-consuming voice of self-doubt saying, yeah, people came
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to those other shows, but was anyone going to show up this time?
There is something endlessly fascinating to me about stories like that.
This specific example is about George Carlin, but many successful people relate with that
feeling.
Whether it's as small as nerves, or something more imposing and sinister like imposter syndrome.
Like a duck treading water, everything on the surface appears to be calm, but underneath,
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the legs are hard at work.
As you sit there in the audience, the performer looks relaxed.
In reality, the situation for them is anything but that.
It is through countless hours of practice they maintain their composure.
It is through continuous exposure to the feelings of nervousness, feeling like a fraud, feeling
like others should be there instead of them, and persevering that facilitates them to be
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natural in unnatural situations like performing in front of thousands of people.
This feeling should be crippling, but not for them since they have done the work to
overcome it.
But what about people just starting on their journey?
Those sensations and thoughts can keep people from starting, or continuing to do something
that brings them joy.
It's this feeling, the fear of failure, the fear of people rejecting you, the fear of
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the unknown that I relate with, and I imagine you, my fellow human, can empathize with as
well.
It's all of those fears felt at various times throughout the process of me creating my podcast,
including now, that keep me from wanting to step into new territory.
Is this guy serious?
Is he subtly trying to equate his podcast release to the accomplishments of George Carlin,
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Will Arnett, Sean Hayes, Jason Bateman, Ryan Reynolds, and other successful entertainers?
Well, no.
Just George Carlin for now.
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable similarities
momentarily.
This guy.
The only reason why I've heard any of his podcasts is because as I was passing him on
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the street, he shoved earbuds into my ears and pressed play to his podcast.
I would have ran sooner if I would have known the red liquid covering his hands and clothes
was just ketchup from a hot dog he had earlier in the week.
Live and learn.
And sure, some people have called me the Ryan Reynolds of podcasting.
But the bigger point I'm making is that these feelings and thoughts that can keep you frozen
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are part of the human condition.
More importantly, they are surmountable, able to be subdued and overcome.
I have read that on occasion, before Ryan Reynolds steps onto a stage, that he has so
much anxiety swirling around in his body, he feels like he's going to die, or at minimum,
as he put it, spew a symphony of vomit on stage.
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Even with all those feelings, he shows up.
Wait, are people saying that I'm like Ryan Reynolds not because I'm fun to look at or
funny, but because I projectile vomit when I get nervous?
Eh, compliment is a compliment.
My wife and I recently started watching a documentary.
It's on HBO, and it's called Smartless, on the road.
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It's a documentary following around Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett for about
two weeks as they tour the country hosting their podcast called Smartless.
These three people I just named are actors.
Very successful actors at that.
The premise of the podcast is one of the three hosts will take a turn inviting a guest for
everyone to interview.
The twist?
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The host who invites the guest doesn't tell the other two who they invited.
The premise is fun, and it always brings enjoyment to see the candid reactions of the other two
hosts when they finally set eyes on the episode's guest.
It ranges anywhere from starstruck to confusion, because they don't know who the guest is.
If you don't listen to it, I recommend going and giving it a try.
Tangent aside, the point of me bringing this up is because after the COVID restrictions
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waned, the Smartless podcast went on tour.
The tour consisted of 10 shows in 10 days, sometimes doing multiple shows in one day.
The documentary provided an intimate look behind the scenes of what they were doing
before each show.
Their relationships with one another, brief moments of juggling family life with their
work life, the jitters they still get even though they have been performers for most,
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or in Jason Bateman's case, their whole life.
Then, what I thought was most interesting, it shows the highs of a successful show and
the lows of one that missed the mark.
There is already so much that goes into the production of a typical Smartless podcast.
With a live show, that increases exponentially.
Jason, Will, and Sean, yes, I am on a first name basis with them, it's a professional
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perk of being in the same industry.
Formalities aside, Jason, Will, and Sean want every show to be nothing but the best for
their fans.
However, with all the moving parts to coordinate, sometimes it just doesn't work out.
There are a couple of episodes in the documentary that capture those low moments.
When a guest and the audience didn't harmonize.
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I think it's valuable and commendable that the Smartless hosts allowed their unsuccessful
tour shows to be shown in the final cut of the documentary.
It's a teachable moment.
No matter how much experience you have, or how much you prepare, you will still make
mistakes.
It teaches grace, and that improving yourself is a process.
It teaches you to get back up when you've been knocked down.
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Maybe for the more cynical person, they could argue that the Smartless podcast hosts had
no say in what made the final cut of the documentary.
That may be the case.
But I know no one really wants to have their failures witnessed, let alone recorded so
that people can watch them over and over at their own convenience.
Even more so when captured by a camera inches away from your face as you process bombing
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on stage only to realize you have to pull it together because the next show is in two
hours.
Despite a few hiccups, the tour ended up being an overwhelming success.
They pushed through a worst-case scenario, completely stinking it up on stage in front
of a live audience for an hour, and they survived.
I think they would do it all over again too because the overall experience ended up being
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too rewarding for all parties to not do it again.
I really enjoy the additional insight you get when you're allowed to see the whole
process of something getting created.
Otherwise, when you get the final product, you only see what they want you to see.
This reminds me of The Wizard of Oz, incoming spoiler alert for a book that came out in
1900 and then a movie that came out in 1939.
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I get it, life is busy and books take a long time to read, and why watch a movie from that
long ago when you can barely keep up with all the ones Netflix keeps putting out?
I guess for no other reason than to avoid spoilers from a podcast host who has a tendency
to overshare.
So let me give you a little context so the spoiler actually spoils something.
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At one point in the movie, after Dorothy and her dog Toto get swept away to Oz, follow
the yellow brick road, meet a few new friends, they find themselves in front of the mighty
Wizard of Oz.
Dorothy musters up the courage to ask him for a favor, which is no easy feat because
the whole time she's in the wizard's presence, he is throwing a fit.
Along with some flames, he eventually agrees to help.
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A favor for a favor.
He will send her home, but she needs to get the Wicked Witch of the West broomstick and
bring it back to him.
She accepts, and with the help from her companions she met in Oz, she gets the broomstick.
Now back at the wizard's shrine, with broomstick in hand, she asks for her prize.
The wizard goes back on his word and says he will no longer help her.
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It's at that time that Toto starts to sniff curiously around a curtain in the room.
The wizard tells Dorothy, don't look behind that curtain, because that's where the wizard's
true identity lies.
He doesn't want it revealed who the real Wizard of Oz is.
An old man.
He wants Dorothy, and anyone else who witnesses him, to see the perfectly curated powerful
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wizard that can shoot flames from cauldrons when he gets angry.
There is a lot of work that isn't seen that went into creating that powerful, menacing
figure.
He doesn't want anyone to see the regular old man on the other side, only the final
illusion that he carefully curated.
If that reference is completely dated and missed on you, don't worry sweet summer child
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who has never known a day in their life without the internet, I have a more contemporary one
for you.
It's like a Snapchat filter.
Every imperfection that may or may not be there is hidden behind something artificial.
There is this enhanced digital layer in front of the original form.
In movies, television shows, podcasts, that filter is all the effort that goes into the
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entire life cycle of production.
The editing, recording, re-recording, adding songs, laugh tracks, and so on.
Believe it or not, it took a lot of effort to get this episode of Revelizations to the
point where I was happy putting it out there for people to listen to.
It's only in my infinite mercy that I don't subject you to the original form of this episode.
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As rough as it may be to listen to in its final version, the original is unimaginably
worse.
I think what I'm trying to get at is that you see these uber successful people who have
these storied careers, and you can delude yourself into thinking that they are unfazed
by any challenge or can do anything.
They have evolved themselves past having any fears, insecurities, or every project
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they are part of is an effortless success.
You compare that to yourself and your fears, or the Herculean effort it takes you to do
something that is one one thousandth in scale to what they do.
That comparison can freeze you in place and keep you from doing something that you want
to do.
It's the reminder, in a candid interview, where you get to see that narrative you created
of them being superhuman is super untrue.
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They are just people with a full array of human emotions.
Something that they have been doing for so long isn't seamless or intuitive.
If you were thrust into the same situation as they put themselves in, all of the same
concerns that you would have, like being scared, underprepared, not the best person for the
job, and so on, are the same things that a lot of pros deal with.
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Probably not to the same extent, because they have techniques to cope with unproductive
thoughts, but the intrusive thoughts are still present.
Thats the secret.
That's the bold divide between the doers and don'ters.
The fact that they are still present with all of their insecurities and move forward.
It's like when you hear about someone in a war doing something amazing in a battle, you
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attribute godlike characteristics to the person by thinking they weren't afraid, which actually
belittles their accomplishment, because they were fearful.
They did feel the paralyzing effect of imminent death.
They did have overwhelming dread rampaging their body, and despite that, they acted.
It isn't the absence of fear that defines bravery, it's the heroic action in the face
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of fear.
Maybe an act of valor in war and doing something that is marginally scary for you to improve
your quality of life isn't the best equivalency.
Still, let the conclusion of you doing something, even though it is scary, shine through.
I want these first four podcast episodes to be an encouragement and momentum builder for
people like me, who want more out of life, but have made it an irrepressible hobby to
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be one's own stumbling block.
For the people who don't want their lives to be a summation of the least intimidating
paths in life, the ones that could use a little nudge to get started.
I want to be an example for people to see me, with all of my hangups, moving towards
joy so you realize, of course you can too.
Even if you have more issues than me and you think, well everything you said is nothing
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compared to all the crazy that I bring.
Do it anyway.
People love nothing more than an underdog to cheer for.
I've gone back and forth and I don't know if I will ever release this as an episode.
Huh.
I just got deja vu.
I think I've said that about every episode I release.
The difference between when I have said that before to this time is, I'm not wondering
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if I will do it, but if I should do it.
I think with art, and I am being very, very lenient with the definition of art when I
apply it to myself and this podcast, art is subjective.
Art is at its best when there is room left for individual interpretation.
There are countless songs and pieces of artwork out there where the artist never explicitly
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says what the piece means.
Take for example Queen's hit song Bohemian Rhapsody.
People have been making guesses since the song came out about what it means, but the
truth is, no one other than Freddie Mercury and maybe his bandmates know the true meaning
of the song.
By him not saying what the song is about, it leaves a sense of mystery and magic to
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the song.
It allows the person listening to find their own meaning.
When artists don't divulge what a certain art piece was inspired by or what it means,
then people get to dive deeper and use their imagination.
How less profound if an artist paints a little girl holding a balloon and says, this is just
a little girl holding a balloon I saw out in public.
I thought it would be fun to paint, so I did.
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No mystery, no imagination.
Instead, the same artist paints the little girl holding the balloon, puts it on display,
and lets the viewer feel whatever the painting inspires.
The observer can make their own guesses to who that little girl is, her relation to the
painter, what the balloon is supposed to represent, and so on.
The mystery is fun and creates more of an experience in its own way.
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So I do take a small risk of limiting people's own interpretations by spelling out my intent
in releasing the first four episodes of my podcast.
I say this like there's going to be college classes dedicated to dissecting and diving
into my podcast.
I think I'm overthinking.
I think even when an artist reveals their why behind something, there is still a little
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wiggle room for the individual to apply their own meaning.
The example that comes to me is Sia's critically acclaimed hip-hop song, Chandelier.
The lyrics are pretty straightforward.
It's about a melancholic party girl who is fun and the life of the party.
She goes out drinking every night to escape the pain and troubles of life, only to be
met in the morning with the same problem she was drinking and partying to forget.
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Except now those problems are accompanied with shame for how she acted the night before.
She is stuck in this cycle, and that's how the song ends.
I feel at face value that song that Sia put out seemingly isn't open to a lot of interpretation.
Even though the song's meaning is almost self-evident, I have a different association
with that song.
I first heard Chandelier by Sia on my wife's and my honeymoon.
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It was on the honeymoon that we learned that one of my wife's closest friends, Kailen,
was not expected to live much longer.
She was diagnosed with cancer years ago, and the relentless disease was going to claim
her soon.
It was through that filter that Sia's song took a new shape for me.
The chorus where the girl was the life of the party, swinging from the chandelier, drying
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her tears, now hit me differently.
I inserted Kailen in place of the party girl.
To me, the verse of the song and the chorus of the song represent two different parts
of Kailen's life.
The verse was somber and full of grief, and then the chorus was almost like a renaissance,
where she could live her life to the fullest, swinging from the chandelier.
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How her life's journey of pain and being chained down by this disease was about to end.
But her new life in heaven, and being free to live and celebrate, was just starting.
Her tears drying because she was no longer in pain.
The song reminds me of Kailen, and even though literally the song is about the poor decisions
of a party girl, for me and my interpretation, it's uplifting.
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It's leaving an arduous life behind for a better one.
Life is challenging enough on its own.
We often forge the chains we wear in our lives.
Make sure the chains you're forging aren't connected to an anchor.
Make sure they're connected to a chandelier, and start swinging.
I agree, that's cheesy, but I'm leaving it in anyway.
I think the punchline of this four episode series is important to be out there.
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Even if my risky, ambush-style marketing campaign fails, and the only people to ever listen
to my podcast are the ones that I capture on the streets, even if my life takes me on
a different path that makes it impossible to continue podcasting, there is still some
value in these first few episodes.
Perhaps it's just for me to look back and see I conquered fear once.
If I did it then, I can do it again.
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Still, I hope other people can use these episodes as fuel to propel themselves towards their
own goals, even if for no other reason than I don't want to be like that idiot on the
Revelizations podcast.
If you feel a whisper of motivation from these episodes, act on it.
Motivation is a high octane, highly combustible fuel, but it burns itself out fast.
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Motivation is fleeting, and no one has ever set the world on fire by sitting in place
burning through motivational content.
Maybe that's not the best analogy since the world is already sort of on fire.
I guess for the sake of the analogy, let's pretend we're in another ice age and the
world will benefit from being set alight.
Sorry mammoths and saber-toothed tigers, you had your time.
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Now it's ours.
Let motivation be the kindling and effort be the slow burning, sustainable fuel that
keeps you in motion.
After enough time, you can look back at how far you've come.
Then that will further propel you forward towards the goals that you want to achieve.
I have been pretty limited in my scope of examples when I talk about pursuing something
that brings you joy.
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They have mostly revolved around entertainment.
That was more for the sake of brevity.
Brian, if 4, now 5 episodes about the same topic is your definition of brief, then I
don't think I have the endurance to listen to you speak about something at length.
Probably true.
I'm working on it.
Don't limit the scope of these episodes to make it so they don't apply to you.
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If you have a desire for more, for improvement, for a life not to be defined by fear, then
these episodes are for you.
If you want a new job, but don't know if anyone will hire you.
If you want that promotion, but are scared because you've never had that much responsibility.
If you want to talk to that sexy individual that you've had your eye on for a while, but
are afraid they're out of your league.
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If you want to go back to school, but you'll be older than everyone else.
If you want to start a business, but aren't sure if you'll succeed.
If you want to go to therapy, but are afraid what people around you will think of you.
If you want to have that hard conversation with someone, but are afraid how they'll react.
If you want to start a new hobby, but are afraid of looking stupid.
If you want to lose weight, but are afraid to go to the gym.
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If you want to move somewhere new, but are afraid because you won't know anyone where
you're going.
If you want to put your voice out there, but you're afraid that you'll just be more white
noise.
If you want more, but don't know where to start.
These episodes were made with you in mind.
Don't let fear of the unknown keep you from what could be a turning point in your life.
With how difficult life can be and how many obstacles are already in your way, don't be
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another one that blocks your progress.
Whatever meaning you find in my podcast, I hope it finds you well and brings you closer
to the things in life that you want to be around.
Thanks for listening.
Huh? Yeah, I know this thing is on.
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This isn't my first rodeo or my first conviction.
I'm just trying to be mindful of my lawyer's advice.
I didn't plead the fifth all those times just to self-convict myself now.
Haha! I can be such a rascal.
Uh, hey, I'm not sure if you know what recording session you're in.
This is for a testimonial for Privacy Shrub Shears.
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Oh yes, yes, that's right.
Boy is my face red.
That rap bastard neighbor of mine planted these privacy shrubs.
He was trying to build the Berlin Wall of Shrubbery in his backyard.
Not on my watch, I shouted to the heavens.
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I unsheathed my Privacy Shrub Shears and cut down that devil Berlin border wall of shrubbery
faster than you could say, yackity yack, don't talk back.
I didn't fight those commies then to have them come back and try to infringe on my right
to be nosy.
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If they want to have their hippie swingers parties, then I guess they're just going to
have to deal with this freedom loving American swinging by.
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Hi, I'm Brian James.
Welcome to Revelizations.
Well, I guess it's official.
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Brian James is a diagnosable narcissist.
Did it really take him four episodes just to say he chronically procrastinates?
Then?
Then he wants us to celebrate him following through on what took him a stone's throw
away from a decade to accomplish when anyone else would have taken only a few days?
This is what happens when you get rid of the draft.
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Society decides to celebrate mediocrity and give everyone participation ribbons pinned
on first place trophies.
Now even the most underwhelming accomplishments demand overwhelming celebrations.
Ouch.
Even as a joke, that shoe fits a little too perfectly.
Why did I release four episodes describing in more detail than anyone wanted or asked
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for my journey to releasing this podcast?
Not solely because I'm an egomaniac needing constant adulation, but also because having
it exhaustively played out before you highlights the absurdity of complacency.
It illuminates how foolish it is to have the means and ability to do something that could
provide your life with more contentment, fulfillment, happiness, meaning, joy, yet you don't move
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forward in it because you're getting in your own way.
Maybe you are wanting to get out of your own way, but you don't know where to begin.
I know when I was originally doing my research on how to start a podcast, I would have appreciated
an explicit roadmap on how to do the thing I was trying to do.
In setting up these first four episodes, that was one of the goals I had for them.
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I wanted to show the process of starting a podcast for others to see.
I don't think anyone else's podcast genesis should look like mine.
At least, I would hope not.
Mine reads more as a cautionary tale than a how-to guide, but sometimes you learn how
to do something by watching someone do it the wrong way first.
Still, if you listen carefully, you will see that there is a guide to follow.
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I don't advise following it exactly how I list the steps, especially the panic attack
detour.
In fact, I highly recommend skipping that part if you're setting out to start your
own podcast.
However, should there ever be a nuclear catastrophe and my podcast is the only surviving bit of
knowledge on how to start a podcast, then there is still hope for future civilizations
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to rebuild the podcast library.
I list my equipment, software, and even certain strategies to implement my ideas.
Is it the best?
No.
Would I recommend my podcast to someone that needs help starting their own podcast?
Of course not.
Would I recommend my first few episodes to an enemy who is wanting to get into podcasting
in order to slow them down and confuse them?
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Absolutely.
That is not my target audience, but it is a good niche I carved out for myself.
Another reason why I structured this first series the way I did is because I found that
I really enjoy looking behind the curtain.
I like seeing the process of how something gets made.
I enjoy diving deep into the psyche of people who have accomplished a lot or are about to
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do something mind-boggling.
I find myself thinking about performers about to go on stage in front of thousands of people
for the thousandth time.
Do they still get nervous?
Do they still care?
I think about players in a playoff game.
What emotions are going through their bodies the hours leading up to the big game?
You look at their faces, but they're stoic, not showing any signs of inner turmoil.
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You may even believe that there is none.
They have achieved an inner peace that can make Buddha blush.
Even in the most stressful situations.
You look at them in their eyes and see a calm focus.
Except it's like peering into the eye of a hurricane.
The eye is the only thing that's calm.
Every other area in their body is being ravaged by a category 5 hurricane, but you would never
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know.
It's only after the event, during interviews, you hear how nervous they really were.
They provide a little insight into some of the tumultuous emotions they were feeling.
I always find encouragement when I hear those stories.
If they are literally the best of the best, and they still have negative feelings to overcome,
then maybe a bottom of a barrel type of guy like myself can embrace those unhelpful feelings.
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I too can learn to refocus that energy into something productive in a similar way that
they have.
I didn't know I enjoyed getting to see the inner workings and thought processes to certain
industries as much as I did until I started listening to interview style podcasts.
In those types of podcasts, there is typically a comedian or celebrity interviewing another
celebrity or comedian.
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Often the conversation would sound like two coworkers shooting the breeze about what their
experience has been like in their given field.
They would talk about how it was working with certain celebrities, working with a particular
director, work philosophies, funny insider stories, and so on, like how they got started
in the industry.
If you're interested in getting into movies or TV, I noticed a good place to start is
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to have famous parents, so if you have that going for you, then your odds are looking
pretty good.
If you don't have famous parents, don't be too disheartened.
I also noticed having a lot of money for donations into certain pockets has also proven
to be a successful strategy.
On one of these comedian interview podcasts, I was listening to a guest tell the host about
an experience he had with George Carlin.
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If you haven't heard of George Carlin, you probably have and didn't realize it.
He was a groundbreaking, wildly successful, prolific comedian.
He could fill up high occupancy venues with people wanting to hear him perform, and he
did.
On what would be one of his last comedy special tours, he was in the green room waiting to
go on stage.
While he was waiting, another comedian, the one who was originally telling this story,
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whose name I'm leaving out because I was sworn to secrecy to not divulge their identity,
or because I simply can't remember.
And the moments before his show was set to start, George Carlin asked this other comedian
if anyone was in the theater.
Did anyone show up?
He was in disbelief that George Carlin, one of his inspirations to getting into comedy,
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asked if people were in the audience.
Of course there was, it was packed, a full house, and they were eager for him to appear
on stage.
Even though George Carlin had been performing comedy in front of crowds since the 60s, even
though he was a very successful comedian, he still had that insecurity.
That sometimes quiet, sometimes all-consuming voice of self-doubt saying, yeah, people came
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to those other shows, but was anyone going to show up this time?
There is something endlessly fascinating to me about stories like that.
This specific example is about George Carlin, but many successful people relate with that
feeling.
Whether it's as small as nerves, or something more imposing and sinister like imposter syndrome.
Like a duck treading water, everything on the surface appears to be calm, but underneath,
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the legs are hard at work.
As you sit there in the audience, the performer looks relaxed.
In reality, the situation for them is anything but that.
It is through countless hours of practice they maintain their composure.
It is through continuous exposure to the feelings of nervousness, feeling like a fraud, feeling
like others should be there instead of them, and persevering that facilitates them to be
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natural in unnatural situations like performing in front of thousands of people.
This feeling should be crippling, but not for them since they have done the work to
overcome it.
But what about people just starting on their journey?
Those sensations and thoughts can keep people from starting, or continuing to do something
that brings them joy.
It's this feeling, the fear of failure, the fear of people rejecting you, the fear of
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the unknown that I relate with, and I imagine you, my fellow human, can empathize with as
well.
It's all of those fears felt at various times throughout the process of me creating my podcast,
including now, that keep me from wanting to step into new territory.
Is this guy serious?
Is he subtly trying to equate his podcast release to the accomplishments of George Carlin,
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Will Arnett, Sean Hayes, Jason Bateman, Ryan Reynolds, and other successful entertainers?
Well, no.
Just George Carlin for now.
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable similarities
momentarily.
This guy.
The only reason why I've heard any of his podcasts is because as I was passing him on
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the street, he shoved earbuds into my ears and pressed play to his podcast.
I would have ran sooner if I would have known the red liquid covering his hands and clothes
was just ketchup from a hot dog he had earlier in the week.
Live and learn.
And sure, some people have called me the Ryan Reynolds of podcasting.
But the bigger point I'm making is that these feelings and thoughts that can keep you frozen
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are part of the human condition.
More importantly, they are surmountable, able to be subdued and overcome.
I have read that on occasion, before Ryan Reynolds steps onto a stage, that he has so
much anxiety swirling around in his body, he feels like he's going to die, or at minimum,
as he put it, spew a symphony of vomit on stage.
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Even with all those feelings, he shows up.
Wait, are people saying that I'm like Ryan Reynolds not because I'm fun to look at or
funny, but because I projectile vomit when I get nervous?
Eh, compliment is a compliment.
My wife and I recently started watching a documentary.
It's on HBO, and it's called Smartless, on the road.
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It's a documentary following around Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett for about
two weeks as they tour the country hosting their podcast called Smartless.
These three people I just named are actors.
Very successful actors at that.
The premise of the podcast is one of the three hosts will take a turn inviting a guest for
everyone to interview.
The twist?
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The host who invites the guest doesn't tell the other two who they invited.
The premise is fun, and it always brings enjoyment to see the candid reactions of the other two
hosts when they finally set eyes on the episode's guest.
It ranges anywhere from starstruck to confusion, because they don't know who the guest is.
If you don't listen to it, I recommend going and giving it a try.
Tangent aside, the point of me bringing this up is because after the COVID restrictions
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waned, the Smartless podcast went on tour.
The tour consisted of 10 shows in 10 days, sometimes doing multiple shows in one day.
The documentary provided an intimate look behind the scenes of what they were doing
before each show.
Their relationships with one another, brief moments of juggling family life with their
work life, the jitters they still get even though they have been performers for most,
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or in Jason Bateman's case, their whole life.
Then, what I thought was most interesting, it shows the highs of a successful show and
the lows of one that missed the mark.
There is already so much that goes into the production of a typical Smartless podcast.
With a live show, that increases exponentially.
Jason, Will, and Sean, yes, I am on a first name basis with them, it's a professional
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perk of being in the same industry.
Formalities aside, Jason, Will, and Sean want every show to be nothing but the best for
their fans.
However, with all the moving parts to coordinate, sometimes it just doesn't work out.
There are a couple of episodes in the documentary that capture those low moments.
When a guest and the audience didn't harmonize.
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I think it's valuable and commendable that the Smartless hosts allowed their unsuccessful
tour shows to be shown in the final cut of the documentary.
It's a teachable moment.
No matter how much experience you have, or how much you prepare, you will still make
mistakes.
It teaches grace, and that improving yourself is a process.
It teaches you to get back up when you've been knocked down.
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Maybe for the more cynical person, they could argue that the Smartless podcast hosts had
no say in what made the final cut of the documentary.
That may be the case.
But I know no one really wants to have their failures witnessed, let alone recorded so
that people can watch them over and over at their own convenience.
Even more so when captured by a camera inches away from your face as you process bombing
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on stage only to realize you have to pull it together because the next show is in two
hours.
Despite a few hiccups, the tour ended up being an overwhelming success.
They pushed through a worst-case scenario, completely stinking it up on stage in front
of a live audience for an hour, and they survived.
I think they would do it all over again too because the overall experience ended up being
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too rewarding for all parties to not do it again.
I really enjoy the additional insight you get when you're allowed to see the whole
process of something getting created.
Otherwise, when you get the final product, you only see what they want you to see.
This reminds me of The Wizard of Oz, incoming spoiler alert for a book that came out in
1900 and then a movie that came out in 1939.
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I get it, life is busy and books take a long time to read, and why watch a movie from that
long ago when you can barely keep up with all the ones Netflix keeps putting out?
I guess for no other reason than to avoid spoilers from a podcast host who has a tendency
to overshare.
So let me give you a little context so the spoiler actually spoils something.
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At one point in the movie, after Dorothy and her dog Toto get swept away to Oz, follow
the yellow brick road, meet a few new friends, they find themselves in front of the mighty
Wizard of Oz.
Dorothy musters up the courage to ask him for a favor, which is no easy feat because
the whole time she's in the wizard's presence, he is throwing a fit.
Along with some flames, he eventually agrees to help.
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A favor for a favor.
He will send her home, but she needs to get the Wicked Witch of the West broomstick and
bring it back to him.
She accepts, and with the help from her companions she met in Oz, she gets the broomstick.
Now back at the wizard's shrine, with broomstick in hand, she asks for her prize.
The wizard goes back on his word and says he will no longer help her.
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It's at that time that Toto starts to sniff curiously around a curtain in the room.
The wizard tells Dorothy, don't look behind that curtain, because that's where the wizard's
true identity lies.
He doesn't want it revealed who the real Wizard of Oz is.
An old man.
He wants Dorothy, and anyone else who witnesses him, to see the perfectly curated powerful
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wizard that can shoot flames from cauldrons when he gets angry.
There is a lot of work that isn't seen that went into creating that powerful, menacing
figure.
He doesn't want anyone to see the regular old man on the other side, only the final
illusion that he carefully curated.
If that reference is completely dated and missed on you, don't worry sweet summer child
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who has never known a day in their life without the internet, I have a more contemporary one
for you.
It's like a Snapchat filter.
Every imperfection that may or may not be there is hidden behind something artificial.
There is this enhanced digital layer in front of the original form.
In movies, television shows, podcasts, that filter is all the effort that goes into the
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entire life cycle of production.
The editing, recording, re-recording, adding songs, laugh tracks, and so on.
Believe it or not, it took a lot of effort to get this episode of Revelizations to the
point where I was happy putting it out there for people to listen to.
It's only in my infinite mercy that I don't subject you to the original form of this episode.
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As rough as it may be to listen to in its final version, the original is unimaginably
worse.
I think what I'm trying to get at is that you see these uber successful people who have
these storied careers, and you can delude yourself into thinking that they are unfazed
by any challenge or can do anything.
They have evolved themselves past having any fears, insecurities, or every project
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they are part of is an effortless success.
You compare that to yourself and your fears, or the Herculean effort it takes you to do
something that is one one thousandth in scale to what they do.
That comparison can freeze you in place and keep you from doing something that you want
to do.
It's the reminder, in a candid interview, where you get to see that narrative you created
of them being superhuman is super untrue.
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They are just people with a full array of human emotions.
Something that they have been doing for so long isn't seamless or intuitive.
If you were thrust into the same situation as they put themselves in, all of the same
concerns that you would have, like being scared, underprepared, not the best person for the
job, and so on, are the same things that a lot of pros deal with.
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Probably not to the same extent, because they have techniques to cope with unproductive
thoughts, but the intrusive thoughts are still present.
Thats the secret.
That's the bold divide between the doers and don'ters.
The fact that they are still present with all of their insecurities and move forward.
It's like when you hear about someone in a war doing something amazing in a battle, you
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attribute godlike characteristics to the person by thinking they weren't afraid, which actually
belittles their accomplishment, because they were fearful.
They did feel the paralyzing effect of imminent death.
They did have overwhelming dread rampaging their body, and despite that, they acted.
It isn't the absence of fear that defines bravery, it's the heroic action in the face
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of fear.
Maybe an act of valor in war and doing something that is marginally scary for you to improve
your quality of life isn't the best equivalency.
Still, let the conclusion of you doing something, even though it is scary, shine through.
I want these first four podcast episodes to be an encouragement and momentum builder for
people like me, who want more out of life, but have made it an irrepressible hobby to
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be one's own stumbling block.
For the people who don't want their lives to be a summation of the least intimidating
paths in life, the ones that could use a little nudge to get started.
I want to be an example for people to see me, with all of my hangups, moving towards
joy so you realize, of course you can too.
Even if you have more issues than me and you think, well everything you said is nothing
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compared to all the crazy that I bring.
Do it anyway.
People love nothing more than an underdog to cheer for.
I've gone back and forth and I don't know if I will ever release this as an episode.
Huh.
I just got deja vu.
I think I've said that about every episode I release.
The difference between when I have said that before to this time is, I'm not wondering
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if I will do it, but if I should do it.
I think with art, and I am being very, very lenient with the definition of art when I
apply it to myself and this podcast, art is subjective.
Art is at its best when there is room left for individual interpretation.
There are countless songs and pieces of artwork out there where the artist never explicitly
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says what the piece means.
Take for example Queen's hit song Bohemian Rhapsody.
People have been making guesses since the song came out about what it means, but the
truth is, no one other than Freddie Mercury and maybe his bandmates know the true meaning
of the song.
By him not saying what the song is about, it leaves a sense of mystery and magic to
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the song.
It allows the person listening to find their own meaning.
When artists don't divulge what a certain art piece was inspired by or what it means,
then people get to dive deeper and use their imagination.
How less profound if an artist paints a little girl holding a balloon and says, this is just
a little girl holding a balloon I saw out in public.
I thought it would be fun to paint, so I did.
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No mystery, no imagination.
Instead, the same artist paints the little girl holding the balloon, puts it on display,
and lets the viewer feel whatever the painting inspires.
The observer can make their own guesses to who that little girl is, her relation to the
painter, what the balloon is supposed to represent, and so on.
The mystery is fun and creates more of an experience in its own way.
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So I do take a small risk of limiting people's own interpretations by spelling out my intent
in releasing the first four episodes of my podcast.
I say this like there's going to be college classes dedicated to dissecting and diving
into my podcast.
I think I'm overthinking.
I think even when an artist reveals their why behind something, there is still a little
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wiggle room for the individual to apply their own meaning.
The example that comes to me is Sia's critically acclaimed hip-hop song, Chandelier.
The lyrics are pretty straightforward.
It's about a melancholic party girl who is fun and the life of the party.
She goes out drinking every night to escape the pain and troubles of life, only to be
met in the morning with the same problem she was drinking and partying to forget.
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Except now those problems are accompanied with shame for how she acted the night before.
She is stuck in this cycle, and that's how the song ends.
I feel at face value that song that Sia put out seemingly isn't open to a lot of interpretation.
Even though the song's meaning is almost self-evident, I have a different association
with that song.
I first heard Chandelier by Sia on my wife's and my honeymoon.
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It was on the honeymoon that we learned that one of my wife's closest friends, Kailen,
was not expected to live much longer.
She was diagnosed with cancer years ago, and the relentless disease was going to claim
her soon.
It was through that filter that Sia's song took a new shape for me.
The chorus where the girl was the life of the party, swinging from the chandelier, drying
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her tears, now hit me differently.
I inserted Kailen in place of the party girl.
To me, the verse of the song and the chorus of the song represent two different parts
of Kailen's life.
The verse was somber and full of grief, and then the chorus was almost like a renaissance,
where she could live her life to the fullest, swinging from the chandelier.
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How her life's journey of pain and being chained down by this disease was about to end.
But her new life in heaven, and being free to live and celebrate, was just starting.
Her tears drying because she was no longer in pain.
The song reminds me of Kailen, and even though literally the song is about the poor decisions
of a party girl, for me and my interpretation, it's uplifting.
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It's leaving an arduous life behind for a better one.
Life is challenging enough on its own.
We often forge the chains we wear in our lives.
Make sure the chains you're forging aren't connected to an anchor.
Make sure they're connected to a chandelier, and start swinging.
I agree, that's cheesy, but I'm leaving it in anyway.
I think the punchline of this four episode series is important to be out there.
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Even if my risky, ambush-style marketing campaign fails, and the only people to ever listen
to my podcast are the ones that I capture on the streets, even if my life takes me on
a different path that makes it impossible to continue podcasting, there is still some
value in these first few episodes.
Perhaps it's just for me to look back and see I conquered fear once.
If I did it then, I can do it again.
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Still, I hope other people can use these episodes as fuel to propel themselves towards their
own goals, even if for no other reason than I don't want to be like that idiot on the
Revelizations podcast.
If you feel a whisper of motivation from these episodes, act on it.
Motivation is a high octane, highly combustible fuel, but it burns itself out fast.
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Motivation is fleeting, and no one has ever set the world on fire by sitting in place
burning through motivational content.
Maybe that's not the best analogy since the world is already sort of on fire.
I guess for the sake of the analogy, let's pretend we're in another ice age and the
world will benefit from being set alight.
Sorry mammoths and saber-toothed tigers, you had your time.
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Now it's ours.
Let motivation be the kindling and effort be the slow burning, sustainable fuel that
keeps you in motion.
After enough time, you can look back at how far you've come.
Then that will further propel you forward towards the goals that you want to achieve.
I have been pretty limited in my scope of examples when I talk about pursuing something
that brings you joy.
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They have mostly revolved around entertainment.
That was more for the sake of brevity.
Brian, if 4, now 5 episodes about the same topic is your definition of brief, then I
don't think I have the endurance to listen to you speak about something at length.
Probably true.
I'm working on it.
Don't limit the scope of these episodes to make it so they don't apply to you.
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If you have a desire for more, for improvement, for a life not to be defined by fear, then
these episodes are for you.
If you want a new job, but don't know if anyone will hire you.
If you want that promotion, but are scared because you've never had that much responsibility.
If you want to talk to that sexy individual that you've had your eye on for a while, but
are afraid they're out of your league.
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If you want to go back to school, but you'll be older than everyone else.
If you want to start a business, but aren't sure if you'll succeed.
If you want to go to therapy, but are afraid what people around you will think of you.
If you want to have that hard conversation with someone, but are afraid how they'll react.
If you want to start a new hobby, but are afraid of looking stupid.
If you want to lose weight, but are afraid to go to the gym.
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If you want to move somewhere new, but are afraid because you won't know anyone where
you're going.
If you want to put your voice out there, but you're afraid that you'll just be more white
noise.
If you want more, but don't know where to start.
These episodes were made with you in mind.
Don't let fear of the unknown keep you from what could be a turning point in your life.
With how difficult life can be and how many obstacles are already in your way, don't be
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another one that blocks your progress.
Whatever meaning you find in my podcast, I hope it finds you well and brings you closer
to the things in life that you want to be around.
Thanks for listening.
Huh? Yeah, I know this thing is on.
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This isn't my first rodeo or my first conviction.
I'm just trying to be mindful of my lawyer's advice.
I didn't plead the fifth all those times just to self-convict myself now.
Haha! I can be such a rascal.
Uh, hey, I'm not sure if you know what recording session you're in.
This is for a testimonial for Privacy Shrub Shears.
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Oh yes, yes, that's right.
Boy is my face red.
That rap bastard neighbor of mine planted these privacy shrubs.
He was trying to build the Berlin Wall of Shrubbery in his backyard.
Not on my watch, I shouted to the heavens.
(28:28):
I unsheathed my Privacy Shrub Shears and cut down that devil Berlin border wall of shrubbery
faster than you could say, yackity yack, don't talk back.
I didn't fight those commies then to have them come back and try to infringe on my right
to be nosy.
(28:49):
If they want to have their hippie swingers parties, then I guess they're just going to
have to deal with this freedom loving American swinging by.
Thanks Privacy Shrub Shears.
Privacy Shrub Shears, from the makers of Privacy Shrubs.
(29:12):
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable, I'll get to
(29:38):
those other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable, I'll get to those, I'll
get to the other massively, I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and
our undeniable, I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable,
(30:05):
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable, undeniable. Man, undeniable
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities, I'll get to the other massively
(30:26):
successful, I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable,
I'll get to the other massively successful, I'll get to the other massively successful
celebrities and our undeniable slimilarities momentarily.
Yikes.
(30:47):
F---ing yikes.
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable, I'll get to
the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable similarities momentarily.
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable similarities
(31:10):
momentarily.
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities
and our undeniable, undeniable.
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities
and our undeniable similarities momentarily.
F--- that f---ing sentence.
(31:38):
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities
and our undeniable.
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities
and our undeniable similarities momentarily.
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities
and our undeniable, deniable, deniable, undeniable.
(32:02):
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities
and our undeniable similarities momentarily.
and our undeniable
Deniable and our undeniable
Deniable why does that sound f---ing?
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable similarities momentarily
(32:27):
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable similarities momentarily
F--- dude this f---. I'm sorry Brian
I'll get to the other massively successful celebrities and our undeniable similarities momentarily that's a wrap folks
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