Where is Community Channel, Australia’s OG YouTuber?

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In 2006, a 20-year-old universitystudent from Sydney, Australia started
uploading to YouTube, posting comedicvideos about everyday occurrences and
observations, which proved popular as shebecame the most subscribed to YouTuber
in Australia, and one of the highestearning OG YouTubers in the late two
thousands and early 2010s This week, anAustralian focus from Australian podcast.

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Welcome to Rewind Time.
This episode, community Channel.
Yeah, it's rewind time.
Ba ba ba ba ba ba ba, ba ba. Welcometo episode 16 of Rewind time Sweet
16, a
YouTube history podcastwith YouTuber, Lucy Liven.

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Hi, and max myself, someone whohas not seen much YouTube at all.
As you mentioned in yourintro, very Australian.
Theme topic.
Oh, y created this week in case you guys,uh, don't know if you couldn't tell.
'cause our general, uh, you know,antipodean, uh, upper class accents.
We are from Australia.

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We are in Sydney.
Wow.
Um, and you were inMelbourne just this weekend?
I was.
How was that?
I was, it was Melbourne, Australia's
second city, I would say opposedto as someone who lives in
Sydney opposed to the first city.
Well, yeah, we literallyare the first city though.
Right?
That's the whole point.
Uh, yeah.
You know Botany Bay?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I suppose so.
1788 on time.

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Yeah.
17. 17. No Australian history.
I'm not really, yeah.
Huge.
Anyway.
How was, how was Melbourne?
Melbourne was lovely.
Yeah.
It was a bit, bit chilly.
A bit nippy.
Oh yeah.
But I enjoyed, uh, gettingmy winter warm coat out.
Mm-hmm.
I felt very smug as Iwalked around very warmly.
Yeah.
Uh, had some great coffee,great matcha, great food.

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It was great.
It was only like 36 hours I left.
Like 6:00 AM like 5:00 AMactually, I was up at four 30.
I know everyone clapped for me.
I'm so strong as a late,as a late night person.
Um, and then I came back lastnight at seven, no, nine o'clock.
So it was like cool.
30 hours everyone.
Yeah, I know.
The most interesting part about my weekendtrip was the time codes timestamped.

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So now you're like, I know you
went to see Hayestown.
How was that?
I did.
It was great.
It was so good.
I hadn't really seenmuch of Hayestown before.
For those listening, Iam a musical theater fan.
As a theater kid, if you couldn'tdetect that energy through the screen
or through your earbuds, uh, probablyyou could probably look into the
theater kid to YouTuber Pipeline.

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I'm sure there's definitelysome type of connection there.
Yes, yes.
But I, I hadn't, I wasn't superfamiliar with Hades Town and I loved it.
They, all, the performerswere super talented.
Um, and I did, although I did noticefor anyone who hasn't seen Hades
Town, there's like a refrain, uh.
A, a motif, a musical motif, if you will,that runs throughout the show where he

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sings like la la, la, la, la, la la.
Like a little like melody.
Um, and the main, the lead ofHades Town is styled, I would
say, in a Sean Mendes type way.
And it may just be that our particularmale lead had very luscious, curly hair.
It was giving Sean Mendes.
Yep.
Um, but it did, it struck me somewherethrough the first act that I was like,

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it sounds like, 'cause my brain was like,this man sound looks like Sean Mendes
and it has like, you know, a reallybeautiful, like poppy kind of sound.
And he's going, la la la la.
And then my brain was like, Lalacrocodile, you know, the la la la.
Can you do your best?
Lyle,
la la, la la la.
That was really good.
Maybe you could be the lead in Hades Town.

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Yeah, I mean, I've only seen thetrailer for Lyle, and I think my
Lyle was pretty good based off that.
Understudy announcement coming soon.
Yeah.
This week we are talking aboutCommunity Channel, which is the
channel run by Natalie Tran.
Uh, fellow Sydney Cider.
Natty t. Natty T. Okay.
I don't think
she's ever been called that.

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No, I, I don't think so.
That was new to me.
But Natty t uh, and this channelis definitely in the YouTube OG
class, as you said in your intro.
She came up in the two thousandsdoing comedy videos primarily.
And we actually have seen Nataliein this series already, although we

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didn't speak about it at the time.
Do you remember when?
Okay.
Yes.
When we were doing our famous most viewed.
Episode the Philip DeFranco episode.
Episode, I would say infamous.
Infamous.
Continue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Our Philip DeFranco episode,we Suck Your beautiful bastard.
Suck Your Beautiful Bastard.
Uh, when, in one of the videos, and Idunno which one it was, but it was one

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of his like deleted videos, I think.
Yes.
It was like she was being like a babeof the week or something like that.
She, she, it was a joke.
Yeah.
So it's like an in-joke.
So he obviously Sexy Phil, you know, abig thing about the the channel is, uh,
all the hot babes are, but not anymore.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No's beyond.
He's in, um, but there's like
a, a joke where he, uh, goes to a cutawayand it is a woman who we believe to

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be Natalie Tran acting sexy basically.
Okay.
When we saw it, I was, I thought tomyself, I'm pretty sure that's Natalie
Tran, but this was like an old deletedvideo, so it didn't have like, thanks to
Natalie Tran for being in the description.
He didn't say her byname, anything like that.
And I wasn't like a hundred percentsure because I, I was not actually.

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Natalie Tran to watch her.
So I wasn't a hundred percentcertain, but I was like, you
know, one plus one equals two.
It's probably Natalie Tran.
But I confirmed it with my friendErin, and I'm gonna shout out Erin
because she's also a YouTuber.
You can check her out.
Erin Smith on YouTube, ifyou like, journal content.
Um, and other cool content.
She's very talented.
Does beautiful, beautiful journal spreads.

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Uh, but she, she was a big Natalie Tranfan, so I showed her the screenshot.
I said, is this Natalie Tran?
She said, yeah, definitelya hundred percent.
Like I totally recognizethe background, so, and the
video is deleted, so doesn't, even if wewere wrong, you guys can't fact check us.
So yes, we didn't include
that in the video.
'cause you know, we like to include themembers of the YouTube multiverse Yeah.
In these episodes and talkabout the connections.
So technically if we were to doa conspiracy board, there would

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be a, a string connecting PhilipDeFranco and Natalie Tran, but
that we have already seen her.
Um,
yeah,
but, and were you familiarwith Natalie Tran episode?
No.
No.
This
episode as I. It goes withoutsaying, guys, no idea who Community
Channel was prior to this episode.
Sometimes, you know, a littlebit, but we'll get into it.
I have actually by, you know, I wouldsay by virtue of being Australian,

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I have seen Natalie Tran in media.
I would say, you say that you, youknow, weren't familiar with her before
this, but I actually think technicallyyou were more familiar or you've
watched more Natalie Trend content.
Mm, okay.
Than I
have.
That's a first for this series.
Yeah.
Um, and I, as I kind of just said, I wasabsolutely familiar with Natalie Trend.
She, as we said in the intro,is, or was the most subscribed to

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Australian YouTuber at one point.
So I'm very familiarwith her in that aspect.
But I was not a Natalietrained subscriber, and that
is not That's interesting.
Yeah.
It's actually, I was, as we werewatching her, I was like, it's kind
of weird that I didn't, I think itmay have been like a, um, like an age.
Mm. Just went above your head.
Uh, yeah.
Oh, I think I just might have been maybelike, too, as some of the YouTubers

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we've talked about, I've been like,oh, I was probably a bit too old.
Like I was aged out of their content.
But in this case, I'm like, I thinkI might've been a bit too young.
Potentially.
Well,
we'll get into it.
Yeah.
Because, uh, I think it is also a casewhere the style of content here is
quite different to what some of ourother original OG YouTubers would do.
Yes.
Um, because it definitely ismore like standup in nature.

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Mm. So, to give you a guys anoverview, if you're not familiar
with Natalie's, uh, I would say the,the bread and butter of the channel.
Mm-hmm.
It's, uh, mostly observational comedyand it either can be, uh, Natalie,
like delivering that to camera, or itcan be in the form of like sketches
where typically she will play most ofthe characters and it'll be, you know,

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there's all types of videos that, uh,obviously bring up observational comedy.
It can be like experiences that she's had.
It can be, you know, gimme some examples.
We have Instagram in real life.
It'll be like things that happen.
I think the first video we watched is herexperience of like, you know, having a
weird interaction at the grocery store.
Yes.
Or, and I was like, yeah, it is like that.

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Sometimes you go to the grocerystore and some guy starts talking
to you, and then it do be like that.
It do be like that.
And then the cashier starts being weirdabout, you know, the items you're buying.
You know, the classic like, oh,you're having a party or something
and you're not, it's just for you.
So the kind of the being,feeling judged and things like
that, like everyday occurrences.
There's one about, you know,being asked for directions.
Mm-hmm.
And or asking someone for directionsand then them giving you really

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convoluted directions and you startforgetting what they're saying as
they're still saying it to you.
Just things like that.
Yeah.
Which I very relat, I've pull up my
notes.
Things like walking pastthe cops and you're scared.
Uh, things like when you say, don'tlook at this, but someone's doing
X and the person you're with, theselike super sass Don't look now.
Yeah.
Um, I don't, the reason that we areobviously pulling from, uh, certain.

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Random recollections about these videosis that, uh, as far as I can tell,
around five years ago, Natalie Privated,the majority of her video catalog.
Yeah.
Do we wanna, let's, let's talk aboutthat because I know we were having
a discussion off camera about, youknow, not just Natalie doing this, but

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YouTubers generally doing this becausethis isn't the first, um, YouTuber.
We've Well, yeah.
Sexy Phil.
Sexy Phil Topical.
A prime example,
I don't want to say, uh, or drawreally a comparison between why
Natalie felt the need to privateher content and why Phil did
Natalie herself said, I privatedthem for, uh, my own reasons.

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Uh, and basically it makesme quite anxious that like.
There are copies of this thatare still viewable, like please
refrain from sharing them anymore.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and that, I think that gives us a sortof insight into why she took them down.
Like she was justuncomfortable with the content.
Yeah.
She, she gave some context and somedifferent reasons, like, and it was varied

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and I, and I understand this, like shewas sort of like, some of them I think,
I'm just generally embarrassed by someof them I don't think are very funny.
Some of them I don't like, have viewpointsor things that I don't stand by anymore.
Yep.
That kind of vibe.
Um, but I'm interested toknow, 'cause I think we do have
differing opinions on this.

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Um, and I wonder if it is because oneof us does publish a lot of content
of themselves online and want us,I mean obviously you have a podcast
now, but, uh, you, you're not really,like, you're not posting tiktoks of
you doing, you know, the renegade,
the what's the renegade,
what do you mean?
What's the renegade.
Ade.
It's like the
original, like TikTok turns,you know, like Renegade.

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No, Renegade.
Okay.
So I am just kind of like, I think that,and of course I'm not like, it should
be illegal for people to unpublishtheir YouTube videos, but when you have
a, like a large audience like Nataliedoes slash did, and then they have like

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a, a real affinity and nostalgia foryour videos, it would, it's kind of,
it's pretty rough to then basicallywipe them from the face of the earth.
Right?
And the reason I thought aboutit was like, so for me, right,
there's things that I'm nostalgicfor from my childhood, right?
Media.
So if I put myself in the people whowatched Natalie growing up, if I put

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myself in their shoes, it would be likeif for me, someone was like, oh, you can
never watch like Toy Story ever again.
I
think, okay.
I think we should clarify that.
We're not just talking about.
Natalie in the casethat Nat does see this.
'cause you know, obviouslyAustralians, we, we are together.
We're talking more generally about,there's a lot of YouTubers who do this.

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There's plenty of YouTubers.
I know one YouTuber that we haven't,uh, covered yet, but we will.
But like Alicia Marie, who wasextremely a popular lifestyle
YouTuber, she privated a bunch ofher extremely popular, like school
routine, like back to school videos.
Um, and people really upset about that.
So it's like a trend of a lot oflike OG YouTubers or YouTubers who've

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been doing YouTube for a long time,providing some of their original,
but also most popular videos.
So I, I guess, yeah, but zooming in onNatalie, but also I just wanted to say
like, we're discussing this in the contextof like a, a bunch of YouTubers do this.
Um, and we've, as we've been planningfor which creators we want to cover in
this, you know, per episode, we often runinto, we've already run into with Philip

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DeFranco, this is, she's, Natalie islike the second or third creator where.
We, we are missing a lot of early videos.
Like there's a gap interms of the history Yeah.
That we're trying to cover.
Uh, and in some cases we're a bit like,or at least for me, I'm a bit like,
okay, well do we still try and find them?
Is it worth us likewatching them to cover them?

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I know for Philip DeFranco and you know,lots of things to say about that, but like
people did feel a particular way feelingthat maybe it was unfair that we were
watching old videos that he himself didn'twanna have there on the internet anymore.
And I'm, I, I don't know.
I think it's complicated.
I am a bit more on the side ofthe creator in that we are not
owed these videos to be public.

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And, you know, I do understand thatpeople are upset when, you know,
their favorite videos get private andthey, they do have a nostalgia factor.
But I do think there's something aboutnot being able to control your image
or what, like people perceive of you.
And I don't know, I, I, I do havesome empathy, like I have some older

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videos that I do think are cringe.
I personally haven't privated mine.
I don't think I've private, I think maybeI ed one video, but it's just 'cause
it did really poorly, like really earlyon just got like, no views and I was
like, this wasn't even a good video.
So I don't think anyone wasreally nostalgic for that one.
But I, I don't know, I think maybeif I had said some opinions or
things that I was like ashamedof, I, I would private them.

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Mm.
But I am primarily a fashion,lifestyle and beauty content creator,
so I don't, I'm not touching onthose sorts of topics as much.
Yeah.
I don't know.
So you,
I lean that and as of course asI've said, like if you wanna private
your videos, like they're yourvideos, it's your call to make.
But I would lean towards, while yes,it might be personally embarrassing

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because everyone is, you know,self-critical and you might be like, oh,
I really like hate these older videos.
But I'm like, oh, you know, maybe youjust put it aside for the benefit of
the audience who don't feel like thecomplete 180 to you about those videos.
But I, I think I appreciate that it's,you know, it's not a, a, a subject

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that we'll come to a consensus on.
I
think right now, I think, I thinkthere's like almost a tier system
of whether or not you shouldprivate certain types of videos.
I think if it's like, like I'm kind oflike, if I were Philip DeFranco, I would
probably private my early videos becausethey're actually like genuinely offensive.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, no, but I'm sorry, but like, yeah.
But,
but okay.
That, that is kind of different.

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No, no.
But I,
but like, I, I guess what I'm sayingis like, I think there's a lot of
creators with private videos becausethey're just like, it's cringe.
Yes.
Or I look at that and I'm like, I clearlymade that video thinking it was funny.
And I don't think it's funny now.
Yeah.
But I'm like, but people, you know,a million people still clearly
liked it and thought it was funny.
And then I think there are someoccasions where they're making jokes
that are maybe like a very, uh, let'sjust say like two thousands esque

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jokes that might not be made anymore.
I do, it depends on what it is, obviously.
But I think there are some where I'mlike, okay, like, you know, making certain
jokes are not particularly fun anymore.
But I think most people who areengaging in good faith would
realize that you are, you're likeprobably not holding that Yeah.
Opinion still, but then that,that's where it gets tricky.
Right.
Exactly.
From my

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understanding, people are not like that.
Some people get veryupset about old videos.
I, and I can understand, and this issomething where I am very empathetic
to the creator on their backend.
If, you know, if you're not a YouTuber,which you know, hey, fair enough.
But on the backend youhave YouTube Studio.
And YouTube Studio is thisapp you have on your phone.
You have a section there, which iscomments, and you just get whichever

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comments are the most recent.
And that doesn't mean on your most recentvideo, it just means whichever is the
most recent comment on your channel.
So sometimes I get comments from peopleon a video that I made like three
years ago, and it'll be something likemean or like people saying something.
What maybe I said something abouta, you know, something that I
don't say that I wouldn't say now,but it's from three years ago.

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Just like my, an opinionof mine has changed.
And someone would be like,that's a dumb thing to say.
Or like this aged poorly.
And I'm like, okay, like I madethis video three years ago.
It's very like.
I get comments on like an old video Imade about dyeing my hair, and people
are like, you did a bad job of this.
And I'm like, that hair is likenot even on my head anymore.
You watch the video sucker.
No, but, but, but I can understand though.

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Yeah.
That's for me, I'm not a big YouTuber.
If I had a million subscribers andI was extremely popular and you are
getting comments on videos that youmade five years ago of people being
like, not funny, not funny, or peoplejoke being like, that's, you know,
that's, uh, like an offensive joke.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, you are, you're using like, youdo like the Aler or something like that.
You'd be like, yeah, this is, I don'tknow if I want people to think I'm like

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that because people, as much as I wouldlove for them to, and I like to engage in
good faith and see the best in everyone,people watching videos and commenting
are not always acting in good faith.
So
having said that, mm, we did watch a lotof these old videos because it opens up a
can of worms where if you take somethingaway from people that they, you know.

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Find valuable, they will find away to re-upload or reshare that.
And thus there's now this weird,you know, backroom dealings of
archive, Natalie videos, thecommunity channel black market.
Yeah.
And that's, that is where I ama bit like, I, I don't wanna
be like, what's the point?
Because like, you dohave to seek them out.

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But I am like, if you do have million,a million subscribers and you have such
a cultural impact on YouTube and you areso beloved and have a dedicated fan base,
like someone probably has downloaded allof your videos, um, and we'll upload them.
So yeah, basically all, therewas a bunch of her old videos.
We didn't watch all of them andI don't, I don't know if I really

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wanna like, talk about them indepth 'cause I, I wanna respect like
we won't No, we don't need to breakit down piece by piece because we
watch them, you know, out of orderfrom when they were published.
Yeah, we don't know exactly.
It's also observational
comedy.
Like it's not something that is really.
Relevant to the time for the most part.
Yeah.
They're, they're quite evergreen.

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The videos, yes.
As we'll.
We'll discuss.
Well
as, as we know from our greatobservational comics like Jerry Seinfeld,
you know, that humor is timeless.
But I think we need to also sayNatalie was uploading videos from 2006.
She was 20 years old.
Um, like, you know, and thenshe was still uploading videos,
you know, 10 years later.

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I don't know if I would like, loveto see the videos I made when I was
20 that I thought were like reallyfunny on my webcam in my room.
I don't know.
I, yeah, but I will say i's interestingto see what has been privated or like
from the angle of, I wonder why she choseto private this, because I can kind of
see why she would private some of 'em.
'cause some of them have that like, youknow, I'm like, oh, okay, that's like

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maybe a joke you wouldn't make now.
But for the most part, they're pretty.
Oh, I don't see any.
There's nothing in them.
Yeah, there's nothing I saw where I waslike, wow, this one belongs in the vault.
But let's, you know, let's get into it.
If you go back and look at thoseold still published videos, you can
see sometimes she'll do like a, ahand drawn style of video comedy,

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which I found quite endearing.
'cause the quality of the drawing lookslike someone who actually is forced
to do a drawing for a YouTube video.
Unlike some of our Draw My Lifeswhere either the person's flexing
their, like art school credentials.
Yeah.
Or I'm like, did you really,is this really your hand?
Did you really draw this?
Yeah.

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I, I mean these look like the typeof paint drawings I have made.
Stick figure.
Yeah.
Like middle school stick.
Yeah.
And I respect that.
Um, and they're quite, they're quite good.
Yeah.
They're very charming.
Um, you can see from really early on,like I can already see from those first
initial videos, like why people were so.
Taken with Natalie.

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Yep.
She has a very unique voice and Ithink it's just 'cause she's also
the first Australian we've watched,well she has a Australian voice.
Um, but yeah, she's very relatable,very, she has like an awkwardness And I
don't mean that in like a, a pointed way.
I mean like she's acknowledging andvery much self acknowledging her

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awkwardness in these situations,which is Yeah, very charming.
As I think some of the, the YouTuberswho watch have a sort of like a ego or
like a bravado about them that she doesnot really have in these early videos.
I think that also might justbe culturally Australians.
I was gonna say that less, wehave a different performative
than Americans energy

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and not to, not to do this, but likeI, I've actually gotten comments,
uh, which I dunno if you guys knowthis, but even if as an Australian, my
audience is still primarily the us it'sthe us, the uk, and then Australia.
And then Germany, shout out to Germany.
Um, but a lot of my US audience will like,comment things being like, Australians are

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so like not, you guys are so different.
Like, you guys look real.
And I'm like, okay.
I don't know.
But yeah, I think thereis a bit of a, well, I
look, I'm not in this world, but isn'tthere a thing with, uh, Australian
girlies internationally at the moment?
People think the Australian girllifestyle is like something enviable

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in the rest of the Western world.
Yeah.
I'm not
sure they're talking about me.
No,
no, no, no.
I just mean they're talking
about like, no, but like the BeachAustralian, like beach girlies.
Like Bondi girlies.
Yeah.
I, I'm having a moment.
The
Bondi bubble or like
Gold Coast.
Ah,
yes.
Gold Coast
type.
Like Australian girlies who go tothe beach and have a side bowls.
I do not fit in that bubble.
But there's definitely a sense of, therewas some comment in one of my videos.

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Someone was like, there'ssomething about you.
You seem very like authentic.
And someone commented, it's'cause she's not American.
And I got,
whoa.
Yeah.
I was
like, no comment.
No comment.
But whoa.
I don't
know if I necessarily agreewith that, but it's interesting.
Yeah.
To see a sentiment and I think that's.
Something that people wouldprobably say about Natalie.
Not to like compare myself.
Yeah.
But as a fellow Australian,like she does, it's a very

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different vibe to what we've seen.
So far and very, a very welcome one.
Yeah, it's cool to see in these videos.
Uh, Sydney landmarks.
Yeah.
UNSW.
Shout out
to Sydney.
Um,
other, we live there, you know, parks,et cetera, um, that we're familiar with.
And, you know, naturally wehaven't had that except for
the Green Brothers, I believe.
Dear and, and Ryan Heer?

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Yes, please.
Sorry.
Okay.
Every time we do an episode, if I seethat they do an Australia vlog, I add it
to the playlist just because I, I mean,
Australia tour basicallyjust means Sydney, right?
Maybe Melbourne,
no, Ryan Heer is like fully ina Adelaide or something, and I
was like, this is very random.
Um, shout
out to Adelaide.
I was born there, so.

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Okay.
So Natalie,
you know, picking up some success.
One of Australia, sorry, Australia'smost subscribed YouTuber.
Yes, she was.
Um, and also in the top.
S you know, top amount of subscribedto YouTubers internationally as well.
Mm.
So she does a trip to the US fromwhat I can gather in the early

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2010s, and I pulled out some ofthe names of people that she Okay.
Said she met.
Let's go.
So the jib Jabber Brothers?
Yep.
Do you know who they are?
Okay.
I
didn't know that, who they were.
So I looked them up and they have a fullWikipedia page about like this company,
JibJab, and it's, they've got the brothersas the founders, but it's like, it's

(24:07):
this content empire with 90 employees.
And they did these parody videos in 2004.
Do they do
Elf Yourself?
Uh, I don't know.
Did they?
That sounds crazy.
No, I don't think so.
Oh.
Oh, wait, they did?
Yes, they
did work on Elf Yourself.
I'm a genius.
I'm genius.
How did you know that?
A
genius.
I just saw the
Wait.
They did a Mad Men Partnership.
Oh, I'll look at that later.

(24:27):
Anyway, but yeah, they're like, likehave an insanely large online presence
Web 2.0.
Okay.
Creative champions, you know,um, and then she met, uh, Wesley,
Ted and Phil from Wong Fu.
Mm-hmm.
And I feel like Wong Fu we havespoken about in this series already.
Yes.
In the Rhine he episode we coveredWong Fu, which by the way, go back and

(24:49):
listen the back catalog there for you.
It's Evergreen and they'reothers in Natalie's content.
I
think I got them right, butI'm not sure who they are.
Joshua Bell and Michael Hawley.
I dunno who they're, you dunnothem someone listening, I'm sure.
Uh, if you know who theyare, please let me know.
Let us know.
Um, and then also aroundthis time she is discussing.
A video competition.

(25:10):
She entered and she references howshe came second to Venetian Princess,
who we covered on a recent episode.
I feel like this episode so far as usjust saying people we've already covered,
that's gonna be this series.
It's gonna be the episode.
Episode.
I hate.
It's only gonna get worse.
Gonna get worse.
But its interesting, you forget, youforget earlier on every single episode,
I was like, well this reminds me of theother YouTube video I have seen by Mosh.

(25:35):
So at least my references arebecoming married at the time.
Yeah, you have a bit,
a bigger pool to reference from, butI think it just shows how entrenched
Natalie was in like OG YouTube culture.
Yeah.
That she was like really trulyone of the original big YouTubers.
And unlike some of the other oneswhere they kind of turned their YouTube

(25:55):
channel into like a company or like,you know, a media company or into like
an something bigger, um, Natalie has,from her channel, it's just Natalie.
Like the whole way through the, and we'lltalk about some particular videos, but
the, um, the production does definitelyincrease and get more, uh, elaborate.
But it, it's, it's always like Natalie'sDNA and her, if they all feel they have

(26:22):
the same feeling throughout, um, asopposed to, you know, obviously your,
your mushers, um, and things like thatwhere you kind of get a bit more of
that, that gloss or that collaborative.
Well, I think it's more that the contentvariety here very much doesn't change.
Yeah, true.
Compared to so many of the creators we'velooked at who just complete their channel

(26:44):
is unrecognizable when it ends, likebarely political that we just looked at.
Yeah, you're right.
They became the key of awesome.
Yeah.
Obama girl, while musical comedy, theother sketches and stuff they're doing is
so far removed from like the parody stuffthey're doing at the end of the channel,
you're actually so correct.
Natalie kind of just has one formatwhere it's like, and maybe she'll do a
bit more of a sketch and maybe she'lldo a bit more of like a sit down.

(27:06):
But, you know, for most of itit's just the, the one format,
which is Nat speaking to a camerawith some sketches kind of, yeah.
Oh, actually also we have to talkabout a really important part of her
format, which kind of, I think onlyrecently sort of wasn't included in
like, the later videos, but the, uh,sexy, the porno music and comments.
Mm. Um, 'cause I think I just, and Idon't know if this is okay for us to

(27:29):
bring it up at this point in the episode,but I, something I noticed compared to
other creators, and I think, you know, aswe're talking about Natalie having these
relationships with other really prominentYouTubers at the time, is Natalie
seems so engaged with her communityand her fan base and really connect.
Yeah.
Do you wanna explain
what this segment is?
Yes.
So at the end of the content of thevideo, um, when Natalie does her sort

(27:53):
of outro, she's saying anyway, you know.
But probably not.
Anyway, blah, blah, blah.
Like, let me know what you guys think.
And now it's time for, isit porno music and common or
sexy porno, music and commons?
It's a section where I believe,and I'm pretty sure it's an
iMac, like a, what's it called?
Imo.
iMovie.
An iMovie.
Thank you.
Sorry.
I'm a not a Apple user.

(28:13):
It's like an iMovie stocktrack where it's like,
it's a very famous, I, I heardthe stock music and I was
like, I know that stock music.
Um, and she puts up all like, commentsfrom her recent videos and like kind of
addresses them and talks about them andhighlights them, um, with like people's
usernames and is like talking to people.

(28:35):
Like, she'll just be like, and thenyou guys said, you know, you thought
that sounded like a good movie.
And I kind of agree except da, da da.
So it's like, I don't know.
As opposed to just like replying inthe comments, she's fully highlighting
them, making it a whole segment.
And it was like a fixture of a bunchof videos for several years and I
thought it was really endearing.
It's very old school.
YouTube to me.
That's like not something you reallysee anymore, where they'll like pull

(28:58):
out the comments and sometimes it wouldbe like, you know, it would be a four
minute video and the content or thesketch of the video would be two minutes
long and then she'd spend two minuteslike doing like channel updates, life
updates, and then this comments thing.
And I thought it was really cute.
I don't know if it feels old schoolto me, because I actually think
it's more akin to what YouTube wouldbecome, or at least what is popular

(29:22):
on YouTube becomes, which is all aboutsubscriber and community engagement.
Because early YouTube videos, you'relike, it's two minutes long, the
video literally is two minutes long.
It's all content.
Whereas now it's like people have, youknow, this podcast included very long
form engaging conversational piecesand she almost tacked that, not tacked

(29:44):
it on, but she added that onto herlike very scripted specific content.
Which makes sense from a like anaudience engagement perspective,
but also YouTube naturally rewardspeople getting more view time.
So it's a way for you to get more bangfor your buck in this scripted stuff.
Yeah, I know what you mean, but I don'tknow if I agree because I think there's

(30:05):
something about it that feels veryintimate and like small because I think
once you get to a particular point it'skind of hard to like pull out particular
comments 'cause you like just in termsof scale and in terms of like to me she
seemed to, and even like, um, when she'dlike go and do vlogs of like her going
overseas, she would include at the endof the videos like, this is someone I met

(30:27):
recently, like I was out and about andwe took a picture together and she'll ask
the people to email her the pictures theytake and say, it was so great to meet you.
You know, James.
And I just think that's a very,there's a couple of YouTubers I
follow who still do stuff like thatwhere whenever they meet a fan.
They'll, you know, includethem in the vlog or the video.
Amber Shoal does that.

(30:48):
If anyone listening knowsAmber Shoal, she's like a
lifestyle and fashion creator.
She always includes clips of likewhen she's out and about or traveling.
She will always ask her viewers to bein the vlog with her if they recognize
her and say hi, which is very sweet.
Um, there's something about that feelsvery early YouTube to me because it kind
of almost reminds me of like VenetianPrincess getting all of her viewers
to submit videos for her parody video.

(31:10):
So I think I, to me this feels likeearly YouTube when YouTube felt
more like an insulated communityand less like something everyone
just watches except you, I suppose.
Okay.
I don't know.
I know what you mean.
I know what you mean, but
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, good point.
So I wanna talk about someof the, the bangers on the
channel, things I pulled out.
Before we do though, wementioned that Natalie.

(31:33):
Basically the content of the channelremains quite consistent throughout.
Mm. There is a, a bit of a segue.
She does a series called LoveConundrum, which is like dating advice.
Mm. And you get a bit more of that sortof like the point of music comments.
People submit their problems andshe gives an opinion on them.
Mm. But this didn't last especiallylong from what I can see.

(31:54):
Not many apps.
And then we sort of revert tobasically the sketch comedy stuff.
And the first one is calledNatalie Tran is Taken.
Mm-hmm.
And the premise is that she can't gether name as a username on any like
social media sites slash website.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and I think it's, you know, inpart due to Natalie Tran being a

(32:16):
somewhat common name, uh, and thevideo, did you find it quite funny?
I, I did.
Yeah.
But I will say I actually found.
A lot of the video's quite funny.
There you go.
I don't know if we've even addressedan overview of episode, but I
had a great time this episode.
Yeah, I think people get, yeah,I think that it's good to clarify
that, but yeah, I think both of usare broadly quite positive about

(32:39):
Yeah,
the, I think channel, but, we'll,we'll get into that with these videos.
The only reason, sorry, I wanted to talkabout Natalie Tran is taken is that if
you Google Natalie Tran, now you geta TikTok of a woman who is maybe 25
mm
and basically has SEO sniped, NatalieTran og, and she's now like the

(33:02):
TikTok influencer, Natalie Tran.
And this is across all thesocial media platforms?
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
The first time when we were talking about,yes, community channel and Natalie Tran.
You looked her up and you went.
Wow.
Why is she like a badie?
And she's like, doing all these dances.
And I was like, that doesn't sound right.
'cause you were like, we're doing Natalie
Tran.
And I was like, okay, I should clarify.
I do think Community channel,Natalie Tran is a badie, very silly.
But when you were describing hersocial media, you're like, yeah, she's

(33:24):
so active on Instagram and TikTok.
I was like, that doesn't soundlike what I know to be true.
Uh, and no, this is just a fullydifferent influencer, Natalie Tran.
Uh, so yeah, ironically, maybewe need, you know, a new video.
Natalie Tran is still taken.
Well, it seems like Natalie Tranbeing taken didn't stop, admittedly
Natalie, uh, you know, her channelis called Community Channel.

(33:46):
Mm-hmm.
Um, which is, you know, andshe references it in the video.
Uh, very interesting name.
Yeah.
Not something that speaks to thecontent of the channel really at all.
Yeah.
It's like, although there isthat emphasis on community.
Yeah.
Well, I, that, that's what I think.
I, I think that is kind of the,if you're talking from a marketing
perspective, one of the keypillars of her channel or like core

(34:08):
components, I would say the community.
Is really key, but, we'll, we'lltalk about that a bit more later.
But you, you liked Natalie trainer's taken
I so I didn't, I didn'treally laugh at these videos.
Um, but they're just, the, thecomedy style is not my thing.
I will say there was, there was one videoI did find funny and it is one of the

(34:30):
privated ones, so nobody canceled me.
Wo uh, but you will get thepremise, uh, of the video from
the title and it's called, uh
oh.
I don't know if you can say, I can't say
this.
Okay.
Uh, but guys, it's called Don'tBlow the, uh, beep Whistle.
Uh, and it's a comedic sketch aboutthe appropriate time that you can

(34:52):
blow your self-defense whistle.
Yeah.
And you know, that's something thatI found funny, but is privated, so
maybe time says that it does not.
I think we
should clarify that you don't.
Really generally, and 'causeI, me, I'm like standing up to
defend my girl because I think hercontent is actually really funny.
Um, and this is, I've seen a fewof them before, but this was like

(35:15):
my first time kind of just doinga sit down, like watch through.
And I was like, this woman isvery funny and very creative.
Um, you don't really like sketchor improv comedy at all anyway.
Mm. I disagree.
I listen to some improvbased comedy podcast.
Actually.
You do guys shouting out.
Um, do you?
Yeah, like basically any com, like anypodcast with a comedian on it is improv.

(35:40):
Oh, I know which one you're talking about.
Uh, like our friends Tom Walkerand Demi Lardner have a Oh yes.
Okay.
Um,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Big soft titty.
Yeah, exactly.
Shout out you
saying that.
I was like, I'm not saying that one.
Hey, no, that's fine.
That's fine.
You just can't say that.
Uh, you can't say that on YouTube.
Um, but shout out to baby.
That's why she Demi Lardner.
Demi Lardner Secret Snack.
One of the greatest comedicperformances I've ever seen.

(36:01):
I love you Demi Ladner.
Come on the pod guys.
Are they in Sydney?
Come on the pod.
They're, but, uh, let's not, let'snot talk, uh, Sydney residents.
The, uh, the thing is, I don'tlaugh ATM really anything at all.
You don't laugh that wewatch in this series.
Uh, and it's, that's fine.
Like I can still review it for thepurposes of this podcast, but maybe

(36:22):
laughs, metrics not that helpful.
Okay.
Alright.
But I can still
look at it and say like, this is funny.
Like this is, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You know.
Okay.
So I think in terms of a, a com, a comedicsuccess element, I certainly think this
channel, I would say is funnier thanthe others that we have watched so far.
Okay.
For the most part on a, ona batting average level.

(36:43):
Yeah.
But me, I wasn't, itwasn't a laugh a minute.
You know,
you were looking at me.
I was, I was G before.
Yeah.
I made notes when you were laughing.
Oh, you did?
That's.
Interesting.
Um, well, you just haven't laughedout loud at stuff non ironically
that often in the series.
Yeah, well I, again, as we've said manytimes, my sense of humor is broken.
So irony and like thingsbeing like hard to watch.

(37:06):
I do also find really funny, butthis was not why I was laughing.
I was laughing 'cause I genuinelythought these were, were funny.
There are some really great gags.
We'll talk, we'll talkabout a couple of them.
Um, the people who skip ads, I thinkwe should talk about because that is
her most viewed video on her channel.
Number one, number one, number 15.
Uh, but it's the numberone video on her channel.

(37:28):
Most popular, about eight.
It's almost 9 million views.
I think it's 8 million.
Yeah.
Um, and it is basically just a parodyof the, kind of the YouTube automatic
pre-roll ads that you can't skip them.
So you can obviously sometimesskip ads, but you sometimes cannot.
And this was one where youknow, you as the user, there's
like a cursor on the screen.
There's some interesting use of SFX here.

(37:50):
Where it's like, you know, you aregonna skip the ad and then she is
breaking the fourth wall and tellingyou like, no, please don't do it.
Uh, and you know, the gag escalates.
I'm not gonna spoil it for you actually.
Well, I I am about to spoil itfor you so you can spoil it.
It's okay, I can spoil it.
It's okay.
It's 10 years
old.
No more than 10 years old.
But go,
but go watch it if you haven't.
'cause it's a really cool video.
It's very inventive.
Um, and I would say also all her videosare quite short and really tight.

(38:15):
Like, there is never a, a dullmoment in Natalie's videos.
Like, I think she's really,really edits them super well.
Um, I always feel, I don't feel like,uh, my time is ever been wasted.
Like, she's, she's a,got great comedic timing.
Um, and it ultimately ends, you know,the, the cursor on the screen is

(38:35):
sort of clicking around and clickingthings, and that's affecting them
in the real filmed environment.
Um, she's using some FSeffects with like phishing.
I. Fishing wire to like pullthings out of the frame.
You
know what it gives, and I, I don't havethe exact reference here, so forgive
me, but you know, those animated,like Looney Tunes, bugs Bunny, Mickey
Mouse style animations where thecharacter is like fighting the animator?

(38:59):
Oh yes.
And the animator is like drawingin stuff or racing things and
the character is reacting.
It's almost like a YouTubeversion in live action of that.
Yes, yes.
Um, and ultimately, uh, it is, you know,and she's grabbing the skip ad like
component that you'd normally see, andshe's, so then she has a physical one.
She like throws it into a lake.

(39:19):
So she's like, now you can't skip thead. And then the cursor ultimately
picks Natalie up and throws herinto the water, which she obviously.
Performs in real life, whichis, um, really well done.
And it's very funny.
I see why
it broke out.
I see why it broke out.
Yeah, because it's a universalexperience of being a YouTube watcher.
Um, and it's really well done.
It's really well executed.

(39:40):
And then you have that kind of sketchgoes for about a minute and a half, two
minutes, and then the back half of thevideo is Natalie giving channel updates
and kind of giving a bit of insight.
So it's like you both get the, the reallywell done video and then if you're a
new viewer, I can imagine so many peoplewill be instantly charmed by Natalie and
kind of the, the back half of explainingwhat she's been up to and like how she
filmed the video and stuff like that.

(40:01):
Um, yeah, really endearing.
So I want to give that one a shout out.
I also just wanna say while we'retalking about views, Natalie's
channel, pretty much every video thatshe has posted has about, I would
say, like a million views or more.
She has probably oneof the most consistent.
Channels in terms of view countthat I think we've ever seen

(40:23):
The most dedicated audience?
A hundred percent I think.
Yeah.
Where she's got about a millionsubscribers and it kind of feels like
when you're looking at the back catalogof videos that I'm like, every single one
of those subscribers watches every video.
I know that's not exactly how itworks, but that is how it feels.
And based on the common interactionand everything like that, I feel like
that is, that is kind of how it is.

(40:44):
All right.
Next video dinner would be nice.
I freely admit, I don't remember whatthis video is and why we flagged it,
but you are like, dinner would be nice.
So
I also, I'll be real sometimesthe way, because it's like sketch
comedy, the way that the videosstart and how they transpire.

(41:04):
It's like the gag ends up ina completely different place.
So I also, oh, oh, this is an influencer
parody.
Okay.
I remember.
So dinner would be Nice is a video thatis probably one of the later videos that
she uploaded probably in the last like 20.
Um, it came
out nine years ago.
Well spoiler.
Um, but dinner would be nice isessentially a video that opens with,

(41:29):
I would say like a classic YouTubervlogger type format where she's doing
like a Get Ready With Me type of video.
She's, she's going through different,like classic lifestyle YouTuber formats.
So she's doing like, I thinkit's a get ready with me.
She's doing like a baking tutorial.
She's doing like how to content hasthe cheery stock music, like the form.

(41:49):
She, she's clearly studied,like this is the type of format.
So she's doing different likegirly pop YouTuber stuff.
Um, but being yeah, increasingly passiveaggressive about her relationship,
um, resulting in her doing a like, Heyguys, here's how I'm gonna get blood
stains out of, you know, this shirt.
And then yeah, the, the reveal isshe, um, does, do, does do a murder,

(42:14):
but not of the person that herhusband is, uh, presumably cheating
with her on he, she mistakes.
A different woman for that woman.
And thus the, the gag at theend is that yeah, she did
just, uh, kill a random person.
A random woman.
Random person.
Yeah.
Which funny
it is.
It's really well done.
Um, and yeah, you can see whyfrom the way it escalates when I'm

(42:35):
just like, dinner would be nice.
It doesn't immediately, um, remindme of what the, what the joke is.
We also watch
like a hundred of these once wealso watched like, so many of these
videos, um, 'cause they're really short.
Um, each one, you know, the, theactual skit of the video is probably
only about a minute and a half.
And we, we were watching the videos forseveral, several hours, so they kind
of all, I'm like, let me just recall.

(42:56):
Um, but I really like this one.
I thought it was really funny.
Also, as someone who does make like beautyand lifestyle content, I was like, oh,
I feel seen.
Yeah, I feel seen.
Mm
mm Watch your back.
Well, did you feel seenby Instagram in real life?
Uh, another video, by the way.
This
was, do you know whatyear this was released in?
Because I'll find it for you.
This one, I would say from what wewatched, the, this is where I think

(43:18):
it's a really great showcase of.
The, while the DNA of the channelremains the same, Natalie's
abilities in terms of editing andproduction really step up here.
There's some really creative use ofprops and green screens to execute the,
the, the gag of this video, which isessentially everything looks better on

(43:41):
Instagram than it does in real life.
Did you like this video?
And did you, did you relate?
Are you a, are you a grammar?
You know, you're not a, I meanyou're not big on YouTube, but
you're big on the premise of
it is that, you know, like Instagramfilters are, uh, a bit silly.
Yeah.
Um, and now looking back, it is funnybecause you look at like the weird,

(44:02):
like brightening that Instagramfilters at the time basically did.
And you're like, why?
If you like this, the 20
14, 20 15, 20 16 Instagram erawith like, heavy use of Valencia.
Where they're like really washed out.
They have like that vintage look on them.
Um, I think
it was also just 'cause iPhonecameras were so bad that you had
to filter the ca the photos tomake something like interesting.

(44:23):
Yeah.
Um,
but I was laughing at like, I thinkNatalie here shows some of her current
Instagram posts and they are very like,and I say this is like all affection is
someone who also did this, but they areso like millennial 2015 core, like, it's
like a picture of a, a mug just like on abench with like a twinings teabag in it.

(44:44):
And I'm like, banger.
You know?
And then you're going like hashtag Sunday.
Honestly though, a lot ofmillennials, sorry, knowing
that I'm millennials, a lot of
Yeah.
I was like, Instagram.
Instagram
users are still like that,which is I find endearing.
I also find it endearing.
I, I remember it, it's interestingbeing like an adolescent at the
time of like, Instagram's likekind of boom in popularity.

(45:06):
'cause I was being, Iwas like 15 being like.
I wish I was cool.
Like these adults who post these coolpictures of like pancakes on Instagram.
So interesting.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, looking back I'mlike, okay, why did I want that?
I think it is just kind of interestingthough, like social media provides
basically children, uh, a way tovicariously experie, like things

(45:31):
that they're like, wow, this iswhat it means to be an adult.
You know?
Yeah.
It's the same as like, I imagine watchinglike friends did for people prior to
social media 'cause they're like, when I'molder I'm going to move to NYC and live in
an apartment and like realistically onlylike 10% of the people get to do that.
So sorry to the rest of them,but it's like a fantasy, right?
Yeah.
I would, I would be following, you know,girls who were in their early twenties

(45:54):
or mid twenties and they'd be like, youknow, getting a coffee, going to brunch.
And I'd be like, that'll be mewhen I'm an adult and a middle.
We did do that today.
We did go out for coffee.
Wow.
Crazy.
Oh my gosh.
I'm living my dream.
Yeah.
I I did
not have Instagram, sadly at this time.
So, wait, really?
I only had Instagram likehalfway into our relationship.

(46:15):
Do you not remember?
You didn't have one?
No, I only had Instagram.
Like, oh,
that's right.
Oh, that's right.
And that's all I got it just
before COVID.
You are crazy for that one.
Actually, that does make sensebecause I remember when we started
dating, I was like, there'sno information about this man.
Yeah.
I knew nothing and I, and I hadn'tlike, known of you like before.
I mean, I, I known of you through,not that we're doing like relationship

(46:37):
history, I'd known about you fromfriends, like mentioning you, but I,
unlike my other friends where I'd seenpictures of them on Facebook or like
other people that you know and went toschool with, I knew a lot more stuff
about them just because they wereposting on Facebook and Instagram.
I didn't know anything about you.
Yeah.
I really hear
a mystery and
I, part of the reason that I even, um.

(46:58):
Use slash maintain An Instagram is thisvery thing where like I am not someone
who's like particularly bothered aboutposting, but I was like, I found like if
I didn't have some sort of social media,people literally are like, you are dead.
Like you're not even alive.
So I was like, I have to like barely,like I have to maintain one and I have
over the like five years or so since Igot it, I do find, I'm like, oh yeah,

(47:22):
you know, it's kinda like old Facebook.
It's nice to see what people you arelike somewhat acquainted with are
doing major life updates, milestones.
Okay.
And what was the lastpost you put on Instagram?
So this is, this is, I postedsome photos from us in Rome.

(47:43):
And when was that?
And those were from March 20, 24.
Okay.
So about a year and three months ago.
Uhhuh.
So I'm gonna do, I'mpreparing to do a post.
I've been telling you aboutthis for about two months.
But yeah, like I, I actually feel,not anxiety, but I, I really, it

(48:04):
takes a, it takes a while for meto build up the sort of, the, the
need to post, if that makes sense.
So, according to you, I, I just waslaughing 'cause you were saying, you
know, it's nice to see milestones,but like, according to your Instagram,
we have not moved to Sydney.
I posted something on stories.
Okay.
Like, like people, if they, if theyreally, if they're keyed in, they

(48:24):
know where I'm located currently.
But no, I haven't donea, I've moved posts yet.
Okay, well, but I'll get
there.
I'll get
there.
There's no hurry, you know?
Yeah, you know what?
It's so fine.
Okay.
It's the, the non postingBF and plenty of posting gf.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
That's like
a Taylor's oldest time.
Someone, people in Natalie'svideos, actually she does bring

(48:46):
up the, the trope of the IGBF andthe, the, you know, the ig, sorry.
Try again.
The social media GF and the ig bfthe guy who takes all the content.
Mm.
Uh, because like, uh, I think inpart, due to the fact that her, uh,
long time Bay is, uh, a videographer.
Mm. So imagine helps.

(49:07):
Yes.
Well, you know, maybe he doesn't, butprobably is involved behind the scenes
to some extent in the recent videos.
Oh.
If you were a videographer,that would be crazy.
But it's okay becauseyou're our podcast producer.
Yes.
So it's just as good.
Um, Natalie has a quite establishedAustralian mainstream media career

(49:28):
that is not referenced as far aswe can see really in her YouTube
at all, which is so new for us.
'cause like we're used to watchingthe YouTube channels content and
people plug all their projects.
I Justine's like Yeah.
The Fred
movie.
Yeah.
I Justine's like I amdoing this award show.
I've got an invite tothis red carpet event.
Like, it seems like they, theyvlog everything, whereas, uh,

(49:49):
Natalie I think has one vlogthat is still up on the channel.
Even that USA trip, it was like she justspoke about having gone on the trip.
It wasn't like, here I am in America.
There are some travel log videos thatI think she did with Lonely Planet Yes.
That are apparently travel style,but they are, they are private.
So yeah, we don't know.

(50:10):
But yeah, so the police,
they're coming.
Um, so yeah, like Natalie, I believewas a correspondent on like the project,
which we've actually mentioned before.
Have we?
Yeah.
Why have we mentioned the project before?
I. Because of the, the comedy newsangle I believe of feel of Franco.
But guys, the project, the project islike, is a, is a half hour light comedy

(50:33):
slash news, uh, show in Australia.
Um, and they got Natalie on, you know,there, so she was doing bits for them.
She has had acting roles.
Um, she is currently a presenteron the great Australian bakeoff.
Yeah.
Which is just the, the Australianversion of the, the Great British Bake
Off or the Great British Baking Showif you're, if you're American baking

(50:54):
down under,
baking down.
Um, and would you like to reveal,I think now is the time to reveal.
As I said in the beginning ofthe episode, I, you have seen
more of Natalie Tran than I have.
Would you like to talk about this now?
So in the, uh, the great NatalieTran content drought of the,
the late 2010s, early 2020s,she was a. Probably guest star.

(51:19):
Maybe she was main cusbut she was in recurring.
Yeah.
Reoccurring.
Yeah.
She had a role in the Australiancrime drama, Mister in Between,
which is about a hitman in Sydney.
And guys, if you're looking for a TVshow, if you like, crimes slash uh, slice
of Life Australian stuff set in Sydney.

(51:43):
Mr. In Between probably thebest Australian television
show I have seen in my life.
I'm it, it is a big call 'causethere's not much good stuff, but yeah.
Well I went through a Mr inbetween phase when I watched it.
Oh my gosh.
It was so.
You are Mr. In-between phase.
It's just
like the sh it's, I think it's, there'sa, there's a like an element of like,

(52:03):
you know, you're Australian, so you havelike, you know, cultural cringe and you,
Australian TV is bad and for the mostpart it is bad, but that means that when
you see something, it's actually good.
It's like so revelatory.
I'm sure viewers who arelistening from other countries
are probably maybe not familiar.
There's not that muchAustralian like, well, I
think that's why they're not familiarwith it, because it's not very good.

(52:24):
Well, there's not that
much.
Well, no, there, there are some great
home and away
neighbors.
Yeah.
Look, we don't have, uh, quitethe same level of, uh, you know,
te like screen industry that, youknow, the States or Europe have.
Yeah.
We just don't, I
mean, the issue is if you, you know, asit goes, if you have, uh, a desire to make

(52:45):
it in film and tv, you move to America.
Yeah.
Where there are plenty of Australians.
Like our, you know, muggaRobbie Russell Crowe.
Yeah, yeah.
Nicole Kimon.
You know, the list goes on,
I think, yeah, there's only a few likeTV shows that I can think of that have
probably become somewhat more mainstream.
Um, but yeah, when you were watchingMr. In Between, that was definitely a

(53:09):
period of a couple of months where youwere just like, I missed it in between.
And I was like, what are you even talking?
I didn't watch it with you.
Um, this was, this was B F's special show.
Um, I think you were watchingit when I was away somewhere.
Mm. I feel like you started watchingit, like you binged like a season
of it while I was doing something.
Yeah.
And the don't let the title put you off.
I do think the title is not great.

(53:31):
Uh, but the show is really good.
It's about 18 episodes.
Okay.
So
anyway, but back to Natalie.
Yeah,
Natalie.
Natalie plays a role in it, so sheis fully doing real acting gigs.
Um, YouTube is still comingalong, but she doesn't seem to
cross pollinate between the two.
Yeah.
And like maybe a part of the privatein the videos is that she didn't

(53:54):
want any of them to affect what'sgoing on in her, like full on media
career, you know, acting Yeah.
And media career.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, fair enough.
Um, um, but I, I think this plays backinto the cadence and, you know, we're
talking about a lot of videos are missing.
There is sort of this ongoing gag thatNatalie does where she, at the end of

(54:15):
the video, when she does like the channelupdates and, you know, the, the sexy music
and the comment time, she also will saywhen the next video is coming out, or,
you know, say like, oh, I'm sorry fornot uploading classic YouTube moment.
Uh, it, you know, Taylor zola's timeon youtube.com is like, oh, sorry, I
haven't been here for a moment, guys,or sorry I'm late uploading this video.
Um, brief aside, I do think it isinteresting that YouTubers okay, I

(54:37):
understand why, but YouTubers chooseto set a schedule for themselves,
but with the amount of YouTubers wholike, uh, they're creative people.
And trying to put yourself on aschedule as a YouTuber and publicly
announce your schedule to your audience.
I would say only about 20% ofthe time does the schedule work.

(54:59):
And I would say that other 80% ofthe time, they're constantly missing
the schedule and then having totalk to their viewers about why
the video's not on the schedule.
Actually, 2080 is probably not fair.
I would say it's, maybe it's more 50 50.
But I do think it's funny thatlike, you don't have to establish
a schedule for YouTube or, or belike, I'm gonna release a new video
every Wednesday at 10:00 PM EST time.

(55:20):
But it is,
I mean, we have a, a schedule
that's, that's true.
We have a schedule as a podcast.
I think that's necessary.
I, I personally don't have a schedule.
I know personally, I'm like,I'm trying to upload roughly
every week, but I understand,you know, there are things that,
you know, I think it mightbe, so there's two parts.
First of all, they're trying toestablish some accountability.

(55:42):
Yeah.
And that's good.
You know, they're, they'regoal setting a hundred percent.
Uh.
It's just another lever that they can pullto make them feel motivated to do a video.
Look.
As someone who's been self-employed,I totally get the need for
having a schedule, but go on.
There's another part where from likea, a legacy media perspective, you are
like, well, the, the Simpsons is onat 7:00 PM on every Thursday night.

(56:06):
So I, as a viewer Yeah.
And conditioned to want toturn on the TV at 7:00 PM on a
Thursday to see my favorite show.
Mm.
And
so the YouTubers are, are trying toestablish like this cadence where.
Natalie is like new video in the,on Wednesday, in the Asia Pacific
region Thursday, everywhere else.
I, I have, yeah.
I mean, like, I have friends who havea, you know, have a schedule and it

(56:27):
does mean that, you know, pe that yourview is, you're training your viewers
to be like, Wednesdays Lucy Day.
Yeah.
Um, I do think
ironically, well, not ironically, butI do just, I do just think as time has
gone on and YouTube has developed theiralgorithm, like all social media is
trending towards like revealed preference.
People are less inclined to seek out theirfavorite creators video at a special time.

(56:51):
Yeah.
They just watch what's on the homepageand what's in their suggestions.
Yeah.
And they just go bang, bang, bang, bang.
As
someone who's been doing an uploading toYouTube for several years now, uh, I would
say previously you would be more punishedfor not uploading regularly, whereas now I
can not upload in three weeks and whereasmaybe five years ago, but like I haven't

(57:12):
uploaded in three weeks, I should almost.
If I have a video that I'm really proudof, I should almost upload that, not now,
but I should upload another video likea, not a dummy video, but like upload
another video that I'm not as confidentin first to then get the algorithm going
again to then put the next video up.
I don't know if that soundsconvoluted, but like yeah, you
would almost be like, I have to beuploading regularly to gain momentum.

(57:35):
Whereas now I can have a period where,you know, say I take a break over the, the
holidays and I don't post for three weeks,four weeks, I can upload a video and
it still has every chance of doing wellas if I uploaded regularly every week.
So it, it, it really does feel, becauseYouTube now is just like, oh, if you love
Lucy's videos, we'll just let you know.
Anytime she uploads one,we'll put it on your homepage.

(57:57):
'cause you always watch her videos,
but I just, there's sort of a gag thatis ongoing, um, on Natalie channel, and
we couldn't tell if it was a joke or not,but it was basically as we kind of got
closer to the later years of her channelwhere she's uploading less frequently,
it was like every video was endingand she was like, I'm sorry, I haven't
been here for a while, guys, I'm sorry.
I know last time I said I was gonnaupload a video a week later, and
now it's been several months, butlike, I'm here, I promise, and I

(58:18):
promise the next video is coming.
I've already written the script forit, and it's gonna be out next week.
And then you see the next uploadedand it would not be a week later and
she'd be like, yeah, I'm sorry guys.
I lied.
I feel like this is basically, ifyou're a YouTube watcher, you're
probably familiar with this trope.
And you're like, okay, yeah,fool me once, you know.
But I do, I think it's, I think it'sfunny because initially I was like,

(58:39):
oh, this is just like classic YouTuber.
Like, guys, don't worry.
I'm, I'm coming back.
And then they like, just don'tcome back for way longer.
Um, but then she does seem toacknowledge it by like kind of
the later videos where she startsmaking a joke that she is lying.
And that she's like actually never beingtruthful with that, which I, I thought
was good because for, I don't know ifit was a joke the entire time, but it

(59:00):
definitely sort of started out not ajoke, like she was being genuine and then
like later on she was like, no, guys.
Like it's definitely coming next week.
And you know, it's not, whichI thought was quite charming.
There is actually, there's a quitea few Australian media profiles
because Natalie was the, thebiggest YouTuber in Australia.
Mm-hmm.
And a lot of them do come from a very,like, what is YouTube perspective?

(59:21):
Um, and there's one in 2015 where theymake a note being like, uh, here's line.
Natalie is the most prolificapologizer I have ever met.
So they do make a note ofhow often she apologizes.
And I will say that's a characteristicthat comes across in these videos
towards the end when she's like,sorry, that hasn't been a video.

(59:43):
Um, and then as an aside,this profile, the, the.
Ryder makes a big deal about howhe can't use chopsticks when they
go, uh, to an Asian restaurant.
And I was like, right in2015, can't use chopsticks.
You're a journalist.
Couldn't be me anyway.

(01:00:04):
Um,
but yeah, it's, she, Ithink it's interesting.
Um, and yet Natalie is not the first northe last YouTuber to have an irregular
upload schedule or to, uh, make promisesabout schedules and not fulfill them.
But I, I think it's interesting thatshe chooses to continue doing it.
I think more is a bit, but, uh, justgeneral advice to many YouTubers if

(01:00:27):
you find yourself, I, I don't know.
I, I go back and forth.
I personally don't have aschedule because I, I like to
underpromise and over deliver.
'cause there's nothing worse thansaying something's coming out and
then it just doesn't, doesn't happen.
So
speaking of.
Not the first or last YouTuber.
She's not the first or last YouTuberto do a 10 year milestone mm-hmm.

(01:00:50):
On YouTube, which involves her beingsat down and shown a video where
a lot of other creators have, uh,said, congratulations, Nat 10 years.
I have given you the list of people inthe video because I am maybe familiar
with one or two, but you are probablybetter positioned to shout out the

(01:01:12):
people that you think are relevant.
I know the Wong Fu guys are therethat we mentioned previously, but,
uh, who else were you surprisedto see in the, the 10 year?
Um, I was surprised tosee the Fine brothers.
Mm.
Who I think I've met.
I don't know if we've talked about them onthe podcast yet, but I've mentioned them
a few times to you because they do pop up.

(01:01:33):
We spoke about React because theReact kids were in Oh, the key.
Awesome.
I wanna say yes.
They were like,
yeah.
They
were like, we love the key of awesome.
Maybe that didn't make it on thepod, but we watched them do it.
We also watched React to, wewatched a React video to a YouTuber
Oh T on day
to t on day.
There we go.
Yes.
To
chocolate, rain.

(01:01:54):
Um, yes, they're there.
The Fine brothers.
It's funny.
I don't know at this point if they, Ispoiler alert where, um, pre or post
public, uh, trashing in disgrace.
Oh,
I didn't know about that.
Yeah.
Well, you, um,
I'll learn.
You'll learn.
Um, but I thought it was charming.
Uh, also Super Walk.

(01:02:14):
Ah, so does he have like a movie?
I don't.
Okay.
I You're confused with other,
uh, Australian, Greek comedians.
No,
no, no, no.
I, I am aware of thisis he is like the guy.
I am not, this is like not content thatI really engage in as, as you might be
like, this stuff isn't really for me.

(01:02:35):
Super Walks content, not really for me.
Um, but people, people like him.
He seems like a, a guy.
I don't know.
I definitely wanna talk about Joey Cefa.
Okay.
Because I, Joey Cefa, gfa not as of yet.
Okay.
'cause currently we're talking so faron this podcast, we've mostly covered
what I would class as like OG YouTubersfrom that like 2006 to 2010 era.

(01:03:01):
But then.
There's sort of theYouTube boom, like 2010 on.
If you can class it by errors, I'msure someone has, you know, put
together a more official timeline.
But like 2010 on, you have your Joey Gce,your Tyler Oakley's, your Grace Helbig.
Uh, grace Helbig is also in thisvideo, um, who I think definitely, I

(01:03:22):
don't know exactly when Grace startedher channel, but her popularity
was sort of later than Natalie's.
And definitely I would say she takes greatinfluence from Natalie's channel and you
know, she, you can see her being like, youknow, you're a great inspiration to me.
I love your content.
And having actually sat down andwatched a lot of Natalie's content,
I'm like, oh, I can see how manyof these YouTubers that I have seen

(01:03:42):
more of or I'm more familiar with.
Like, I was subscribed to Grace Helbig.
I'm like, oh, she actually probably like,was heavily inspired by Natalie's format.
Um, 'cause her videos are.
You know, spoiler alert, kindof a, kind of a similar vein.
Anna Ana as well, isanother female comedian.
Um, there are a couple of otherYouTube, uh, Australian YouTubers.

(01:04:05):
There's, there's we, Wendy Wenge, uh, who
is Wenge Australian?
Ye yes.
Okay.
Um, yes, but I think she'sbeen in LA for a long time.
As you can see, she's13 million subscribers.
You've pulled her up on the laptop there.
Wenge.
I don't even know how todescribe Wendy's content.
It's kind of just gives
Lucy liven in like 2017

(01:04:26):
when I had like dyed hair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She, I'm not, I'm not a subscriberand I'm not fully across, but I,
I, because I have like a pastoralkind of cutesy aesthetic, like.
I, I'm aware of Wenge and hercareer or her like, type of content.
I feel like every time I check back inon Wenge, it's like different stuff.
Um, any others?

(01:04:47):
Any that stood out to you?
Yes.
I like these guys called Mighty CarMods, which is just a two guys that,
um, do like car makeover videos.
Mm. Something that my brother would puton when he falls asleep on the couch.
Um, and it's like, I'm just like, howdid you guys connect with Natalie?

(01:05:09):
I think, well, they're Australian.
Yeah, I know.
Oh, sorry.
For context, they're, yeah, Ican see like a, you know, a V
eight in the, in the thumbnail.
So they are Australian.
Um, but it's just, yeah, I don't, I didn'tthink there'd be a crossover between,
uh, comedy YouTube and Car Mod YouTube.
But I think again, if, well, howlong have they been uploading?

(01:05:29):
Because I think the thing is that
years, like 20 years.
Yeah.
So if you are one of the first.
Like, you know, Natalie was for thelongest time, the most famous and most
subscribed to Australian YouTuber.
So if you are like the top20 Australian YouTubers, you
probably all know each other.
Yeah.
I just think it's, uh, you know, it'sspeaks to where other YouTubers would have

(01:05:53):
more collaborations on channel and we'd belike, oh, this is like their network of.
You know, preferred, uh,friends and acquaintances.
Yeah.
This is
their brick crew.
Yeah, exactly.
Natalie, the content, we haveway less emphasis on the sort
of crossover stuff that a lot ofearly YouTubers, that's something
we noticed.
She doesn't, there's nocollabs, I don't think.

(01:06:14):
Not that I can remember, no.
Oh,
there's, there's one in the,uh, people who skip ads video.
The special effects, like the VFX in thevideo are done by this other YouTuber.
And she's mentioned in thisvideo it's the Amy Yamato.
Okay.
I think I, I don't know if I'mpronouncing that correctly.
And I, uh, this unlocked of memoryin my brain, but Amy or Armie,

(01:06:38):
maybe Armie Ima is a, like anearly example of a V YouTuber where
she doesn't show her actual face.
Mm. She is like ananimated character, but she
Cool.
Yeah.
She's like, she's like a virtualvlogger or like a v Yeah, like
an early version of a v YouTuber.
Um, but that.
That channel, whoever is behindit or runs it, did the VFX of like

(01:07:01):
the car being thrown, thrown acrossthe screen for that video and she
calls them out in that channel.
Um, but yeah, you can see she has apretty wide network of people from various
different, like they're comedy creators.
There's obviously car mod creators who allare saying, you know, we love you Natalie.
You're a great inspiration.
You know, obviously all the, the nicethings that you would say to someone when
you have your 10 year YouTube anniversary.

(01:07:24):
Um, and off the back of this, shehosts a barbecue in the Botanic
Gardens for her subscribers, I believe.
Mm-hmm.
And it was like a, an what lookslike an open RSVP and then the vlog.
You see all these com uh, communitychannel fans rock up and play games and
do Natalie Tran trivia and she's there.

(01:07:45):
No, I think it just normal
trivia.
Wait, what?
Yeah, it's just normal.
I thought it was about her channel.
No.
Oh, she like just
made trivia fascinating.
It's so, she does a vlog, like talkingabout how she prepped for the event.
And it's actually funny in the, um,in the lead up to this event, she
kind of talks about it being like,oh yeah, if anyone is free to come.
And the way she talks about it is as ifshe doesn't have a million subscribers.

(01:08:06):
And if like, as if she's notlike an extremely popular creator
because she says it like, oh yeah.
And if like no one comes,like, that'll be fine.
And I, I mean, I like relatable.
I understand the, the fear of hostingan event or something and no one coming.
But I think, again, this is quite, quitecharming because, uh, I think she says she
was, I think she knew she was gonna likehost it at her home, like at a backyard.

(01:08:30):
And then clearly like I think overa hundred people RSVP'd and that's
just like people who live in Sydney.
And again, as I said, most YouTubeviewers are in the States, so
it's like they're not gonna cometo the, the barbecue in Sydney.
Um, but yeah, and it's a really cutevlog and it's like all these people like.
I don't, it's really cute.
I think, yeah, communityevents are really special.

(01:08:51):
Um, and again, community channel,community event, very special.
It's
almost like, you know, it's not aboutthe destination, it's the journey and
it's the friends we made along the way.
It was exactly, and the communitychannel was formed, uh, by the,
not the end of this channel.
But guys, uh, after the 10 year event,there are four videos that have been

(01:09:12):
published in the eight years since.
Uh, one of them is Dinner WouldBe Nice, which we talked about.
That was the one we Yeah.
Spoke about.
And then we have New Year'sResolution Place, Christmas
lists and New Year, new You.
So there's, there's a veryinteresting end of year theme running
through the most recent videos.
New Year, new you was three yearsago, but I would say especially

(01:09:35):
the two most recent ones.
So New Year, new You and Christmaslists, there is a bit of a step up in.
Execution for these videos, maybeowing to the fact that Nat is now
not a full-time YouTuber, so shegets time to sort of cook these ones.
Um, but yeah.
How do you feel about our two most recentvideos and their productions, and also

(01:10:02):
how do you feel about Nat stepping awayfrom the channel basically after 10 years?
Yeah, so Christmas lists is, uh, if youop open that video and you go to the
comments section, it's like, and whenthe world needed her most, she returned.
Um, this is also in, at theend of 2020, so she's sort of
acknowledging C and things like thatin her sort of section at the end.

(01:10:23):
Um, something that you remarkedupon, which I wanna bring up is that
you were, as you were watching thevideos, you were like, wow, Natalie
does really good character work, um,in these videos in Christmas list,
I think she plays four differentpeople and they are all just Natalie
with different hairstyles and shirts.
She gives them each, like a distinctlydifferent vibe and they all look and act

(01:10:45):
really different, even though they're alljust meant to be like Australian women.
And she does it really well.
Obviously, you know, as we said, Nataliehas like a mainstream, uh, acting and
presenting career, but you can kindof see her talent shine through here.
Uh, and this video is really good.
It's a, it's a good gag.
It's returning to like, kind ofthe genesis of the channel, which

(01:11:06):
is like observational comedy.
Um, and you are pointing to something onthe laptop, the, the research laptop here.
Do you know?
Yeah.
The, uh, the vlog brothers commentedon this saying the best part of 2020.
On the video prior to this New Year'sResolution police, um, you know,
as you can imagine, a lot of thecomments are, Nat, where are you?
I miss you.

(01:11:27):
Uh, you know, and when the worldneeded her votes, she vanished.
Uh, she went out to get a carton of milkand never came back, blah, blah, blah.
Um, so Nat returning after severalyears of just not being active, was
obviously a very exciting event.
Um, and then she said somethingin the end of Christmas list where
she's like, don't worry guys.

(01:11:47):
I like I'm back.
I have another video.
And then she didn't.
It is funny though, 'cause it's almostlike the, the three videos, it's like
you brainstorm them in one session 'causethey're all about Christmas New Year.
Yeah.
And then you, you're like,
eh,
I'll get to it.
And then it's like an eight yearprocess, or you get like a nice

(01:12:07):
trilogy of, uh, new Year Christmasvideos, because yeah, new to be
honest, new Year, new one year later.
That's a better cadence than theviewers expected at that point.
So they should kind of, you know,
cut off some slack.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Um, did you,
what did you think of this one NewYear, new you, honestly, do you wanna

(01:12:29):
describe the concept is, um, it's
pretty, it's kind ofhigh concept for Yeah.
Her videos.
Mm-hmm.
From what I remember, it's like, whatif when you, you make a resolution
at New Year's, you basically, there'sa new version of you created that
fulfills the resolution and theold version of you is like, you

(01:12:50):
know, like severed and taken away.
Right?
It's kind of like a sci-fi concept.
Um, and the concept of this isNatalie is like, I don't believe in
New Year's resolutions, or I don'tbelieve in the like, new Year, new you.
Like, I'm the same person.
It's like silly to make this resolution.
And the other character islike, oh, like New Year, new me.
Uh, and then at the strokeof midnight, she's like.

(01:13:12):
Tranquilizer darted andreplaced with the same version
of herself who's like a clone.
Uh, but then, because it's, you know,a great comedy video, she takes it
to the next logical step, which islike what happens to the old you.
And it's like they're kept in anapartment with like a creepy serial
killery type, also played by Natalie.
Spoiler alert.
Everyone's played by Natalie, um, whois like, you know, brushing your hair

(01:13:36):
and like spending time with you andfeeding you and taking care of you.
And then once the new year comesaround again, you are just killed
unceremoniously, which is, yeah, it's,it's a really, uh, yeah, high concept bit.
It's well executed.
It's very cinematic in thelighting and how it's done.
Um, and it is really funny.
It's really, really good.

(01:13:56):
She also shares the bloopers in thedescription in an unlisted video.
Oh.
And this video has 655,000 views, sorry.
The, the main video.
New Year.
New Year.
And the bloopers has 200,000 views.
So for the amount of click-through for avideo in the description, I think, yeah.
Once again, it speaks to howengaged her community is.

(01:14:18):
And yeah, we kind of arebrought to present day.
Mm-hmm.
Where there are no videosas far as I can tell.
On the horizon.
Um, Natalie is still activethough, on social media.
Uh, so it's just YouTube that isnot her primary focus, I guess.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and that's all well and good,you know, she did it for a good 10

(01:14:39):
years and yeah, she still is likea, it seems a working videographer.
She is still with her partnerwho she met on the project.
She is doing the hosting, as we mentioned,for the great Australian Bake Off,
which is still ongoing.
She was in the most recent season,which came out like a couple months ago.

(01:15:00):
Uh, yeah, that's, that'swhat she's up to now.
And like, uh, we couldn't cover'cause there are actually so many good
videos in the catalog that we watched.
Um, shout out to Indoor Plant SerialKiller, which I know is like a really
popular one that a lot of people like.
Um, I also enjoyed that one.
Some really great visual effectsthere with the, the plant like

(01:15:22):
dying as soon as she touches it.
Um, really funny.
The one where she talks aboutwho measures celebrities.
Like, you know, when you can Googlehow tall someone is and then she does
a character of, you know, someonewhose job is to measure people and
how like weird that is and like,making 'em a really funny character.
She is just, I think yeah, areal comedic talent and I am so

(01:15:49):
proud that, you know, a friend.
She's one of us.
She's one of us.
One of us.
Uh, did you have any other, any otherbits that you wanted to, to talk about
in terms of Natalie tr Should we starttalking about the legacy of Community
Channel and our favorite videos?
Thank you for asking me aboutthe legacy of Community Channel.
Wow.
I think that in terms of,you know, Australian YouTube

(01:16:10):
comedy, she is the pioneer, the
Queen, the OG Australian queen.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and you know, from my verylearned position of having seen
exactly one Australian YouTuber.
I think she does a pretty good job of,you know, internationally representing
Australian culture, which is quite cool.

(01:16:30):
Do
you think it's, would you say it'sa generally good representation
of our sense of humor as well?
Yeah,
yeah, I agree.
Okay, good.
Just checking.
Um, but I, yeah, I, I think I'mpretty broadly positive as I mentioned
across the, the spread of videos.
I think it's tough because some of thestuff is naturally not easy to watch

(01:16:55):
these days and that's maybe some ofthe stuff that I found more funny.
You like the
edgy stuff?
Well, yeah, yeah.
Uh, but hey, nothing here.
There was certainly nothing that was, uh,as difficult or cringe-worthy to watch.
Compared to the othercontent we've watched for 20

(01:17:17):
years ago compared to a regularweek for the rewind time prep.
Oh, this was like a, this wasnot, it wasn't Lonely island,
but it was definitely up there.
It was a walk in the park.
Yeah, exactly.
An
enjoyable walk on a sunny day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, a hundred percent.
Uh, in terms of my thoughtson Legacy as someone Yeah.
Who had definitely seen a few Natalietrained videos from time to time, but

(01:17:37):
not like, you know, really engagedwith her, her library of content, I,
Natalie here and watching all thesevideos, I think you will see that
legacy reflected as we move forwardinto like later YouTubers and you like
seeing what she was doing in 2006, 2007.

(01:17:58):
This is like what, like some ofthe, I I'm thinking of like Dan and
Phil, um, what they were doing in2011 and it's like the same format.
Okay.
So I think she really did likepioneer and popularize that.
Format.
Um, I think of like Danny Gonzalezor Drew Goodin, anyone listening.
Um, and I watched a lot of their content.
Like I am subscribed andwatched a lot of those people.

(01:18:20):
So I am almost like I am meetinglike the, the grandfather of the,
the YouTubers that I watched a lotof and I'm like, oh, all of these
people, grace Helbig, daily Grace.
I'm like, oh, all of these peoplewere definitely inspired by and
fans of Community Channel andyou can see that clear influence.
So I, I guess I owe a lot to, toNatalie for that, for inspiring and

(01:18:43):
you know, creating a format that I'veconsumed a lot of but by other people.
Um, and I think she's, yeah,again, shout out to down under.
Yeah, I think it's cool also thatshe chose to, and naturally the
channel is I guess on hiatus.
'cause she could just comeback, but she chose to really.
And for the time being the channelat a high, like she didn't, we didn't

(01:19:06):
have a saga like we have with manyof the subjects of this podcast so
far where there was a, there's theyin and yang between, I make videos.
I like, no one watches them.
So I make videos I hate and soI don't like my job and so on.
Yeah.
She really hit 10 years.
We're still getting, uh, theconsistent views that she had

(01:19:28):
throughout the history of the channel.
Mm. But for personal reasons orprofessional reasons, just was
like, whatever we don't knowwas like YouTube not for me.
Which is interesting 'cause she doespersonal updates like constantly.
Mm. But we didn't havethe, the why I left.
Video.
Um, so
yeah, know why I left is reallylike, like many things with this

(01:19:48):
channel, and I don't know if it's,
or aware I've been,
you'll be better and don't spoilfuture developments for me, but I
can't say whether this is like acultural difference with Australian
creators or this is just independent.
This is something specificto community channel.
But yeah, a real, like, as we said, areal distinct lack of YouTube tropes
so far in this series on this channel.

(01:20:10):
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't have the Yeah.
No
vlog, like no, no real vlogs, no.
What's been going on?
No.
Yeah.
Teases, just keep in mind just content.
We, we could be missing stuff that mightbe privated or like, I, I don't know,
but yeah, no, I, real, a real, I'm not,I'm not saying this to imply that other
people don't, but she has a ve uh, kindof like a, a classiness or like a dignity.

(01:20:34):
That you're like, huh, okay.
Or maybe it's like a, an Australian, like,it's like the not wanting to make a fuss.
Maybe that's more of it, like thecultural, like, I don't wanna make a fuss.
I'm just gonna, I don't need to,I, I don't, no, no one cares.
I'm just gonna leave.
Um, but yeah.
Did you have a favorite video
besides the censored one?

(01:20:55):
I, I mentioned previously.
Uh, if that's the one youlike that, that's okay.
That's
probably the, the one Ifound, uh, the most funny.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, but then a favorite one.
I, I didn't mind the JohnnyDepp Amber Heard apology video.
Yeah.
Which is the realfootage of their apology.

(01:21:16):
Which seemed at the time, obviouslyvery insincere and forced.
And it's, it's intercut withNat, uh, as if she's behind the
camera and she's holding a gun.
Oh, the prop gun.
Yeah.
And
she really made use of thisprop gun for like 10 years.
And it's very funny.
She loves the prop
gun.
Very.
And also like for international context,uh, there's like no real private
ownership of handguns in Australia.

(01:21:37):
We don't really have guns in Australia.
Yeah.
seeing her brandish this gun inall these videos, it did tickle me.
So I would say that's my,my favorite Unprivate.
She's also wearing like a crocodile lunde.
She's wearing a, what's the hat?
I don't know what you call it.
Oh gosh.
It's like a,
the hat with the corks on it.
It's the
cork hat.
Yeah.
We should know what that is.
Wow.
Australian flops.
Sorry.

(01:21:57):
We're not representing the community.
We we're from the city.
Sorry.
We don't the, it's a hat withcorks on it and it's to keep
flies from flying into your face.
Yeah.
But we live in the city.
We don't live out back
like 90% of Australians,like 90% of Australians.
Yeah.
But um, yeah, so it's quite funny.
Um, I liked that one.
I also enjoyed that one, myone that I wanna shout out.

(01:22:18):
I enjoyed quite a lot of videos, as youcan probably tell from the pod today.
But I enjoy spot the differencebecause I had, it has this insane,
it's really short and it's just done.
I don't know, it's almost like this onekinda gives like a Tim and Eric kind of
vibe to it where she's basically like, youknow, it's like those early internet like.

(01:22:41):
Ads that you'd get, those popup adsbeing like spot the difference, where
they're like, click baby type ads.
She's like, spot the difference, you know?
And if you can spot the differencebetween the two, then you know,
that knows, shows that your brainis like functioning, dah, dah, dah.
So it's just a scene of her sitting ina couch, having a cup of tea standing
up to get a book and sitting back down.
That's, that's the scene.
So she's like, that's scene A.

(01:23:01):
And then it's like, and C, what thedifference is in scene B. Scene B is like,
she removes the bars next next to her andshe repeats the exact same scene except
then she comes back into frame, uh, andshe's covered in blood and has a gun and
she's like screaming and it cuts off.
And she goes, anyway, thanksfor watching you guys.
Could you spot the difference?
And I, I just wasn't expecting thatgag and I thought it was really funny.

(01:23:22):
It's a really funny, wellexecuted site gag and I highly
recommend spot the difference.
It's great, great, great video.
Okay, cool.
Community channel episode16 of rewind time.
Mm-hmm.
Did you have something tosubscribe to this week?
I mean, we referenced it atthe start of the episode.
Melbourne.
Melbourne.
Melbourne.
Uh, yeah, I haven't really,what, how do you start, really?

(01:23:44):
Oh, pick one.
Uh, what about, or,
or the Coffee of Melbourne?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, I, I was actually gonnasay, um, a girls' trip.
Oh, okay.
I,
I, my trip to Melbourne wasimpromptu inspired by, uh, my
friend who was heading to Melbournefor an event, which got canceled.

(01:24:04):
She was like, oh, I'm,I'm going to Melbourne.
And like, now I'm just doing nothing.
Like I'm, you know, I can't book,uh, cancel my flights or my com.
And then I was like, maybespontaneously I can join.
Um, and I booked it like 12 hours before,which is not characteristic of me.
I'm not a very spontaneous person.
And I have a, an anxious energythat, uh, you know, perhaps

(01:24:26):
Natalie and I share in some degree.
Um, so I felt kind of, Iwas like, what am I doing?
This is so crazy that I'm doing this.
Um, but it was a really good time.
So.
Spontaneous girls trip.
I'm subscribing to saying yes to things,taking chances, living life on the edge.
You pray.
Love
you.
Pray love.

(01:24:47):
Great.
Yeah.
What about you?
What are you subscribing to this week?
Oh, this week.
It's a tough one.
Yeah, because I'm still just playingcla up skill 'cause it's very good
and I've subscribed to her previously.
But if I'm being honest, outside of thingswe've mentioned previously, like the
rehearsal, I have just been smashing away.

(01:25:09):
Subscribe to the rehearsal on the We have.
Yeah, I think so.
Oh, okay.
Oh, guys, we're watchingthe rehearsal all.
Oh yeah, of course.
Um,
Nathan Fielder, one of mygreat comedic inspirations.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm obsessed with him.
Um, but yeah, I'mplaying cla of skill, so.
Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna cheatand subscribe to that 'cause
really not like filter coffee.
Oh, okay.
If you, if you really wanted a newone, please scratch that please.

(01:25:30):
I am subscribing to porridge.
Because I've been making porridgeeach morning and it's kind of yum.
It's a bit cold here.
We're just about to actually, it'slike first day of winter today.
Oh,
so hot breakfast, breakfast is nice.
And you can't get much better thansome rolled oats, some liquid in a

(01:25:52):
pan, some additives of your choice.
I like some freshberries, some cheer seeds.
I, I'm not trying to out you, butI do think it's crazy 'cause I've
long been a porridge advocate.
And you just, it it, okay.
This is
this.
You push me to say a new one.
Like, yeah.

(01:26:13):
Okay.
No, I'm just saying.
Okay.
This is, I would say, Ithink it's very charming.
This is one of my things that Ithink is really cute about you.
Not that this is a relationshippodcast, um, but sometimes I'll be
like, Ooh, would you like some poetry?
You like, no thanks.
And then.
One day you wake up and decidethat you like porridge and then
you spout its virtues to me.
And I'm like, don't cite the magic to me.

(01:26:34):
I was there when it was written.
I've been a porridge stand for like10 years, and you're just being like,
have you heard about this breakfast?
Kind of Never really saw you.
Have you had, what do you, no.
Are you kidding?
I had an obsession with specificallythe porridge from Pret, the UK chain.
Yeah,
so we live in
Australia, but then I found they, butthen they published the recipe for prep
porridge so I can recreate it at home.

(01:26:55):
But I love, I've had, I've had multipleporridge phases as we've been living
together and now you're like, doesn't,
don't remember, I swear.
And you
wake up before me and I workup one day and you're like, you
know what's actually so good?
Have you porridge As ifI've never, anyway, sorry.
I'm giving that, I'm giving thatmeme of Angela from Smosh, where

(01:27:15):
she's like, I need to calm down.
I need to calm down.
Guys, for the record, Inever disliked porridge.
I just wasn't in my repertoire.
It's just, it.
I'm like, I know you, I, thisis, you will like porridge.
Like, I, I can't, I was, I couldn'tunderstand why you weren't into porridge.
It is all the things you like andthen you just, anyway, it's fine.

(01:27:37):
Okay.
That is episode 16.
I'm, I'm giving
like a porridge hipster.
I'm giving like
you're gatekeeping porridge.
To be honest, I'm notgate keeping porridge.
You're like, you can't enjoy aporridge until I say you can.
No, no,
I'm not saying that at all.
I'm just saying I've been, it's like whenyou're trying to tell someone to watch
a TV show for a long period of time,and then out of nowhere they're like,
oh my gosh, have you seen this TV show?
And it's like, I've only been tryingto get you to watch it for this long.

(01:27:59):
That's kinda what it gives.
And you've, you've hadthat happen to with me?
I've done that, haven't I?
No,
no.
You've surely had thatexperience with someone.
I look, I would just be like, wow,I'm, I'm so happy that we can now
bond over our shared experience ofwhether it be a TV show or porridge.
Yeah.
Well it mely,
we don't make porridge the same way.
That is actually also a core issue.

(01:28:21):
Okay.
Is I make my porridge.
And you think it's, yeah,
I think we, we leave porridge chat whereit is for this week and it's actually
we should start the porridge pod.
Yeah.
Okay.
Orange time.
I'll let you produce that one.
Um, thank you everyone for listeningto this week's episode of Rewind Time.
We will be back next weekwith another OG YouTuber.

(01:28:41):
Mm-hmm.
Um, thank you to everyone who'sleft us a rating or review.
You can do that.
Yeah.
Your podcast platform of choice.
Or on YouTube.
We also have video episodes on Spotify.
If you Yeah.
If you're
not a YouTube fan, which, why areyou listening to this podcast?
But if you choose to watch your videopodcast on Spotify, you can do that now.
Yippee.

(01:29:02):
Yippee.
Great.
That's everything andwe'll see you next week.
Bye.

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