Why is The Annoying Orange scary now?

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In 2009 while working on a series of shortcommon videos for another company, a young
Dane decided to experiment with AdobeAfter effects on some household objects.
After settling on a Round Fruit asthe main character, they uploaded the
video to their personal channel whereit went on to amass over 100 million
views, creating fertile ground forthis fruity freak to make a content

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orchard that still produces a crop ofmillions of subscribers and views today.
Welcome to Rewind Time.
This episode, the Annoying Orange.
Yeah, it's rewind time.
Welcome to episode 14 of rewind timeand unofficial YouTube history podcast.

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I'm here with YouTuber, Lucy Liven.
Hello, and I am your other host,max, someone who is not seen.
Much YouTube at all this week.
A very contentious topic, as I'm sure thetitle of the episode gives away a very
annoying topic, I think it's fair to say.
Yeah.
We are covering the Annoying Orange.
Lucy, I'm sure you have seen some AnnoyingOrange prior to this week's record.

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I mean, how can you not, if youwere a child on YouTube in the mid,
you know, 20, was it like 2010,2009 was the first upload Late
late two thousands.
2009,
yeah, late two thousands.
Um, but it was prolific.
I think we've talked about it in someprevious episodes, seeing the annoying
orange like feature on other channels.

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So yeah, if you were kind of acrossany of the big YouTubers at the time,
you would know about Annoying Orange.
So I would consider myself partof that, part of that club.
Most recently in Fred, yes, he.
Annoying Orange appears.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and I'm sure we'll get intoit today, but Fred himself is
back for this week's episode.
Oh.
Missed him so much.
I know.

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Um, it's been like two weeks,but also Mosh, I wanna say Yes.
Had some annoying orange.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and I, Justine
Yes.
Our queen.
Yeah.
Friend of the show.
Friend of the show.
Friend of the show.
But yeah, let's kick it off because wemade the decision to have this episode be
focused on the annoying Orange channel,although the creator of the Annoying

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Orange, , Dane Bode Heimer mm-hmm.
Also has their own channel wherethey have done other YouTube content
that is not the annoying orange.
Mm-hmm.
But, um, spoilers, guys, the AnnoyingOrange has released two or three
episodes basically every week since.
When we would say the heyday of theAnnoying Orange was, which is 2010.

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10. Yeah.
So I think the,
there's thousands and thousandsof videos of this orange.
The amount of content,
uh, on the Annoying Orange Channel,I think justifies, uh, it was
staggering being its own episode.
Yeah.
But I did want to talk brieflyabout Dane just because people
might be, wait a minute.
Familiar with,
wait a minute.
Hang on.
You need to answer the question.
Do you know who the Annoying Orangewas before we started this episode?

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Oh,
my bad, my bad.
Um,
yeah, please.
The format of the show is crucial.
I see.
I knew about the AnnoyingOrange you did from the time.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because when we watched it in theother YouTubers we've covered so far,
I was like, that's the annoying orange.
Wow.
That's annoying.
But I hadn't seen any of these videos.
You've
never seen like a full video through, I

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believe I've just seenthe Annoying Orange video.
Oh, okay.
Or maybe like.
You know, through other references.
I was How did that, how
did that come to you in your life?
Because it's just that, sorry.
You have to understand, it's, ina lot of these episodes, you have
no idea who these people are.
So when we do have an episode whereyou're like, I know this, I've seen
this, I, I do wanna zoom in a bit.
Was it in, in middle school?

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I honestly, I can't tell you.
Oh,
it was secret.
It wouldn't have beensomething that I found myself.
Um, I think it would've just beenthrough my cultural osmosis, like
much of my YouTube understanding.
Yeah.
It would've been like a referenceor a riff on how probably
Annoying the Annoying Orange was.
Okay.
In some other form of,you know, legacy media.

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Right,
right, right.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Um,
please continue.
Yeah.
So, um, Dane.
Mm-hmm.
We should do, um, somehousekeeping and acknowledge that.
Dane is a transgender woman.
Mm-hmm.
And uses she, her, they, them pronouns.
Mm-hmm.
And naturally at the timeof the popularity, I would

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say, of the annoying orange.
Yes.
This was prior to her transition.
So if you are confused about that, thatis, uh, obviously why we are referring
to Dane using her, her and she, herthey name according to her preference.
But anyway, Dane basically was a, likea producer in LA working on things like

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Pimp My Ride, which is like a, a greatclassic two thousands, , sort of, uh,
piece of MTV media and then was doingstuff on YouTube, but it was with the
release of the Annoying Orange, theoriginal Annoying Orange that they really
came upon their sort of big hit and.

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To this point really only hit'cause as we mentioned, the annoying
orange has continued to present day.
I, I don't think I'll be able to get over.
Well, we'll see.
But I was so surprised I, inmy mind when we were going into
this episode, I was like, oh,there'll be like a lot of content.
But it will, it will havesort of like peed out.
It will have just be, you know,infrequent uploads from like 2015 on.

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But that is so not the case, whichactually probably makes for a more
interesting episode given the directionof where the channel kind of ends up.
But I guess, you know, let'stalk about, let's talk about the,
let's not get ahead of ourselves.
'cause it definitely, I definitelywent down a bit of a rabbit hole.
So let's talk aboutsome of the early stuff.
Um, the first video, yeah,
the original annoyingOrange 2009 end of the year.

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So it's a bit later than some ofthe YouTubers we've been covering,
but I still would say it's likein the OG YouTube era, I think.
Just not like, yeah, oog, OG
It's sort of like a lot of theOG YouTube is even covering.
Kind of start in 2007, 2008, andkind of build that early popularity.
You know, you think of your RyanHiers, your Smosh, but they kind

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of pick up when YouTube as aplatform platform overall picks up.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so it's sort of like they, youknow, they came in just before the
buzzer, I would say The Annoying Orange.
Like, everyone's kind of starting to lookat YouTube and start watching YouTube
and then they post, you know, not toattribute to the lack of, uh, value, but

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I do think there was a little bit of likea, a perfect storm tied of a situation to
kind of propel it to the success it has.
Sorry, I'm tongue tied.
I'm so excited to talkabout the annoying orange.
Yeah.
So this first video.
Mm.
If you are, if, if me saying, HeyApple, if that rings a bell for you.

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Yeah.
I,
Justine.
Sorry.
Oh, wow.
That's funny.
Um, hey Apple.
Um, 'cause that's sort of the,the refrain of this video.
Mm-hmm.
It's our annoying orange character who,if you haven't seen it, of course, uh, it
is a, an orange and the creator's face is,, projected onto it using it's the eyes

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and the mouth.
Yeah.
Using uh, I'm sure someAdobe After effects.
There you go.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You're so across the create,like the, the tool set of the
two thousands YouTube create.
Yeah.
I totally
didn't just double check the Wikipediabefore I started the episode today.
And then the other fruit, uh,animated similarly similar.
Similarly, similarly.

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Similarly.
Yeah.
And there there's an assortmentof various fruit and vegetables
who are characters in this series.
And in this first video, theorange is annoying the Apple
character, and they do various bits.
What did you think of the,the comedy of this video?

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Look, I'm gonna say this with, youknow, so much love in my heart.
The annoying orange is not for me.
I, I think we can reveal, I was notlooking forward to this episode.
I actually think it turned outlike I, I felt less dread as
we went on because I was just.
Doing, we were going down the rabbithole in terms of what was happening, but
in terms of the early annoying orangecontent, and even at the time, like

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obviously with so many of these YouTubers,we can watch this content and be like,
okay, maybe this is like a bit obnoxious.
Maybe it's not so funny.
Um, but I clearly did watch a bunch ofearly Smosh videos, so that was fine.
But this I could not handle evenas like a, well, I suppose I
would've been like 12 or something.
So a again, a little bit later.
So I think maybe I was like, thisis too, this is too low brow.

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Even for me,
my contemporary reaction when Iwas watching just this first, the
OG annoying orange video, I waslike, it's actually, it's not bad.
No, you are so crazy for this.
I'm like,
like there is, you know, some,there is some, , skill put into like
the, the cross cutting of dialogue.

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The various jokes and setups.
Like I didn't laugh at anything,but I was like, I can, like
there's a, a solid gag here andthe end of the video spoilers guys.
Uh, but it has the, uh, the fruit getting,uh, chopped in half by, you know, a
human in the kitchen who's not seen.
But you naturally see our, our, ourfruit character be chopped up, which

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is obviously, you know, 'cause they're,they're, um, they're like humanized.
What's that?
They're, they have human characteristics.
Uh, yeah.
Yeah.
They're, and so it's, you know,they're getting chopped up or not.
Anthrop.
Anthropomorphic, yeah.
There you go.
Is that what you're looking for?
We'll go with that.
Well, yeah.
I don't know if that is actuallycorrect, but anyway, I, that's the
recurring, and this is like the formatthat basically the majority of the

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early episodes have is the annoyingorange is being annoying to another
piece of fruit or another grocery item.
Um, and then like theyget chopped up at the end.
There's some other bits,recurring bits in the middle.
Um, the annoying orange has a laugh.
Would you like to do an in impress?
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't, I don'tknow if I can do it.
Um, but it is, uh, as the namewould suggest, quite annoying.

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Um,
it is crazy though.
Mm.
Because, you know, as I've said, Ikind of liked, well, I didn't like,
but I kind of was like, this is fine.
You respected this first episode.
If you've seen this one famous annoyingorange episode, you have basically seen
the entire annoying on Orange catalogbecause we return to these jokes over and

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over and over and over and over again.
Yeah.
And I need to say, the originalannoying orange video has
over a hundred million views.
And the crazy part is that for the,like first few, like first 10, 20
something videos, they all have like50 million views, 85 million views.

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And I'm like, what?
Like what was in the water?
Like, what was going on?
I just don't like.
Congratulations to the creator.
Like obviously that's so amazing.
But I just, compared to some ofthese other things where I so can be
like, oh, I see why this went viral,or I see why this was shareable.
I'm like, what?
What would compel you to be like, isit just like funny to send someone

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something that's like irritating?
I think it's
so crazy though, how theyall have that many views.
Mm.
And we all associate the annoyingor orange with this time period.
Mm. But they have remainedas prolific, actually more
prolific than they were then.
And yet there's like zero culturalawareness of what we're gonna talk

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about after these 2010 videos.
This
I'm not, uh, yeah.
I feel like we're doing somuch like foreshadowing.
'cause I, I do think we need to spendsome time in the early years 'cause you
know, it's really establishing what theformat is and we're seeing kind of all
of that early success with, uh, lots ofinteresting collaborators and whatnot.
But the nothing couldhave prepared me well.

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I was not prepared for what theannoying orange is like currently.
Like for what, where it would go.
Um, and I don't think, if you'renot familiar, like don't, don't
pause the episode and go look it up.
Like just come with us on the journey andexperience it in the same way that we did.
Um, but yeah, so the early,early episode and I would say the
early episode, I was like, Ugh.

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And it's hard to quantify because again,there's thousands of videos on this
channel, but for the first like year,would you say, of Annoying Orange, it's
like the same gag with different flavors.
I would argue that's theentire history of the channel.
I, well, I wanna get into it.
So ao Annoying Orange, huge hit for Damo.
Damo comes on their channel and goes.

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Guys, I am going to be moving futureannoying orange content to the
dedicated, the annoying orange channel.
Mm-hmm.
I'm still gonna do stuff on mychannel, but you should subscribe
to the annoying orange channel forannoying orange specific content.
Right?
Yeah.
So this is something like Neil Rigawould do with pot of puppet pals.

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Yeah.
Um, so I think there, there's a precedentthere for creators being like, you guys
want this stuff more than you want me?
So I'm gonna keep myweird audience over here.
Yeah.
And we can just do our normal freakstuff and I'm gonna let all the
normies subscribe to the just AnnoyingOrange channel, um, so that I don't

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have to, you know, when I put up anon annoying Orange Channel video, I
have to deal with people being like,
where's Annoying Orange?
Yeah.
I didn't subscribe for this.
Yeah.
I've seen there were interviewsthat Dane was doing at the time,
um, and she was being like, okay.
Everyone just kept being like,why are, who is this person?
Like where is the annoying orange?

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And so they were just like, okay,if we just make a new channel
then Yeah, exactly as you said.
Um, and I think a popular move formany YouTubers who create like series
or characters or things, um, and Ithink Dane said something along the
lines of they were thinking, oh yeah,I'll be able to keep doing both.
I'll be able to keep doing like mypersonal channel and the annoying

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orange channel, but quickly discoveredthat would not be possible with how
successful the Annoying Orange was.
And was like, okay, let's justrun with the annoying orange.
Yeah.
Day personal channel abandoned.
And I think that's part of thereason we didn't want to do.
A two part like Dane and Annoying OrangeChannel content because they, they
haven't uploaded there for 10 years.

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So,
and it's, and definitely enough totalk about with the Annoying Orange.
You may not feel it at this moment, soI feel like I'm being so foreboding, but
like yeah, there's plenty to talk about.
And actually even in the early videos,I feel like we have a lot to talk about.
Um, well, let's get into Yes.
Was Up, which is a, a take fromthe Annoying Orange, a parody of a,

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another pop cultural meme or property.
Mm-hmm.
Which is, I think, a, acornerstone of the channel.
Yeah.
But this is a, uh, a interpretationof the, the famous, I believe
Budweiser beer commercial.
Which I think is a not Super Bowl.
You know, I'm not American.
I don't watch the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
But I think it's a Super Bowl ad, Ibelieve from the early two thousands.

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Mm-hmm.
Uh, and this was, Ithink released in 2010.
So casually just doing abit on a 10-year-old meme.
They said, what will the 12 year olds whowatch my videos, like, I think something
that came out when they were too,
I mean, as we've been saying inthe, in the, the early internet and
pre-internet age, memes had a muchlonger, like a, a hugely longer life

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cycle compared to now where likeAnnoying Orange is doing the was up meme.
Literally a 10-year-old memeand people are like, haha.
Yeah, what's up?
That's funny.
That'd be so crazy.
It would be like, imagine if I made like ameme now and I was just doing Damn Daniel
back at it again with the white Vans.
I, that would actually be funny.
Yeah.
Okay, well maybe that's, but it's not

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funny 'cause it's like sincerely funny.
It would be ironically funny'cause no one would do that.
Yeah.
And that's just.
I mean, everything is irony, I suppose.
But yeah, it, it's, I mean itcertainly is what it says on the tin.
It's just all of them, all the, it'sthe orange and then all of these
other fruits and vegetables coming inand going, which is what the ad is.

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Um,
I think vitally though, do
you think, wait, do you thinkchildren, sorry, do you think
that's the thing?
Children now wouldn't know whatdamn Daniel is, whereas because of
how long this meme hung around theannoying oranges audience, which I
think we will assume are children.
Hopefully we
Okay.
We actually can't totally tell.
I think they're children hope,I hope, imagine their children.

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Because when I was first introducedto it and I was like a, a, a tween,
a teen, I was like, this must befor children who are younger than
me, even though I'm also a child.
But I was like, I'm a, I'mlike the big brain gremlin.
And these are for likethe normal gremlins.
But so, but do you think thatlike children were introduced to

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Wza through the Annoying Orange?
I think it's a thing where they,it works either way because if
they know the meme, they're like,haha, funny meme, I know this.
And they feel smart.
But if they don't know the meme,it is their friend, the Annoying
Orange, doing a funny voice.
Yeah, exactly.
Which I think is core, probablyone of the core tenets of
this, uh, property, you know?
Yeah.
Being annoying.

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Well, just doing the voice.
Yeah.
Imagine me being like a,like a brand consultant.
Like going in and being like, I'm gonnado like an architecture of the brand
and then being like, I think it allcomes back to this one word annoying.
And it's like, okay,
but yeah, you say that.
But there is actually, uh, a legaldispute that has since been resolved
where it seems that an advertisingcompany produced another Talking

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Fruit character around the same time.
And then when the Annoying Orangebecame popular, they were like,
well, you stole that idea from us.
And so they sued and they, they lost Ithink quite handily, but, um, I believe
the judge dismissed it with prejudice.
There you
go.
So, so, um, but
anyway, uh, so then we haveWza and then we have, oh, I
was so excited for this one.

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Yeah.
Annoying Soar.
Annoying
Soar.
All children love Soar.
Yeah.
Another parody of a property.
But this time it's like, it's veryinteresting and maybe it goes against
our annoying oranges for children theorybecause I just don't think children
know what the jigsaw puppet, which isthe main character in this video is.
But then again, maybe they don't needto know 'cause they just think it's like

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an original annoying orange character.
Yeah.
I, I, okay.
Can I go on like a slight tangent?
Yeah.
So everyone, you maynot know this about me.
I am quite a scaredy cat and I don'tdeal well with like, horror stuff.
You might disagree.
'cause I feel like I have verylike, interesting constraints around
what I can and can't tolerate,but I don't like jump scares.

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I don't like, um, like goreand like body horror stuff.
And I think that's, think it's, and all
rollercoasters and, and allrollercoasters, which is not
related to all haunted houses.
Okay.
Yeah.
Which is not related to what I'm saying.
Do you wanna say my other fear?
No, no, you're
just
saying intimacy.
You're outlining
your scaredy cat emotion credentials.
Yeah.
Right.
I'm a scaredy cat, butlike, sometimes I'm not.

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But anyway, so I haven't seen Yeah, you'rebeing like, no, you just are all the time.
I'm a scaredy cat.
Okay.
I'm an anxious, I'm an anxious gal.Uh, and I, but I have, I have this
sort of like, fascination with sort,I've never seen any of the movies.
Um.
One time when I was really ill, when I wasin high school, I had like a really high

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temperature and I was like, delirious.
Uh, and this was when I had aphone where I could watch YouTube.
Ironically, it's tied back.
Um, and so I started watching clips fromthe saw movies that were on YouTube.
Um, and it made me feel like moreill, uh, and like my temperature
went up several degrees as a resultof like the stress and anxiety of
watching people like, you know, gettingtheir skin fla and stuff like that.

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Um, but, well, I mean, it was the YouTubeclip, so it wasn't like that bad, you
know, it was, it had to be abel's.
Go on YouTube.
Anyway, I really like the puppet.
I think the, I think thesore puppet is so funny.
Um, and I've heard people say thefirst saw movie isn't that scary
because it's like quite low budget.
Um, 'cause I don't like the ideaof people cutting off limbs,
but I do like thriller movies.

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Like, I like, uh, I, I didn't mind sevenor Zodiac I, those I was fine with.
Anyway, so I was really delightedto see this little puppet.
He's so funny.
He's on a tricycle.
Do you not find him funny?
I haven't seen sa it scares me.
It's just the normal way with you.
You don't need to do a backstory abouthow you're scared of cat or anything.

(20:45):
You just think it's No.
Well,
I just don't, I don't really watch it.
Like self-mutilation
a hot take.
It
needs to be really like,something like, um,
what's the one with like,
I, I watch Body Horror.
Did you watch the one whereJames Franco cut off his arm
127 hours?
Yeah.
No, because honestly, guys, I, I knowthe ending, like there's no suspense.

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Someone watched that the guy survived
in front of me on a plane.
Yeah, that's right.
So I would
like be poking my head out and watching.
And then I saw him starting to cuthis arm off and I was like, gotta go
back to my, my might like, it's likeany my screens, like any biopic, I'm
like, where's the suspense?
Okay, but so you don't wanna watch.
So anyway, so did.
So, do you like the jigsaw puppet?
I'm delighted by him.
I think he's so funny.

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I I have no feelings towards him.
I do think, and they bring him back.
So clearly he was popular on this channel.
Would you?
I do think I made another note that Ithink the, the orange very much like
a Bart Simpson, like chewed style,you know, he's very, he's coded and
when he's doing the, the dialoguewith the puppet, I was like, you
know, this is all proficiently done.

(21:48):
It's all done.
Well, you, you're just like, but why?
Like, yeah, it
is.
I'm like, well, I've, but why would you?
He's just the same sort of jokes.
So I'm a bit like,
it is funny that my
patience is wearing thin.
Well, I mean, like, jigsaw can'ttorture him because he is too annoying.
Like he's too, he's not scared.
But, uh, yeah, we didn't getto hear the little, the puppet

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laugh where he's like, eh.
Do you know the last I'm talking about?
No, I haven't seen, sorry, I haven'tseen, so do you know the music?
So, but he's like, and then he's like,
I don't know if you'remaking this up, but I'll,
no, he's so, because he, he, he's apuppet, but he cycles on a tricycle.
Yeah.
Have you not seen him on the Tricycle?
I've seen him on the tricyclein like, yeah, he's so
funny.

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And he has like the wig.
Okay, let's move on from Saw please.
Unfortunately,
I guess I just think that saw isfunnier than the annoying Orange.
I think that the famous, uh,thriller horror series is scare,
uh, funnier than the longrunning comedy series.
No, that's not true.
Sorry.

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As I've said in previous episodes,I do think my sense of humor is
kind of irreparably broken, probablyin large part to youtube.com.
But uh, then we come to Passionof the Fruit, which is obviously
a passion of the Christ.
Yes.
Pun.
There's nothing else related to it.
No, it's just the name.
Yeah, that's so, like Nickelodeonepisode core though, they
always be doing like pun.

(23:10):
I think it's because they'rewritten by adults who are like
very much like minimum effort.
I'm cashing the check type of vibes.
And so they just throw, they'relike, pop culture reference done.
Clock out.
I'm getting my check.
Yeah.
You know, I'm trying to get areal acting job or writing gig.
So you're saying

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all this, but at this point Ithink it was just one person.
So,
no, I'm talking about,sorry, Nickelodeon stuff.
Yeah.
Oh, well, talking about the peoplethat work in children's entertainment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're clocking, you, you know,you're cashing your check.
You are being a predator, like
children's entertainment.
Yeah.
Like, as I've said, ismostly slop, like, I'm sorry.
Uh, but it, it kind of is a bit sad.

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Um, and there's exceptions to that.
Like everyone likes Bluey, I think'cause it's actually like a children's
show where the creators care.
But it's crazy work.
A huge amount of children'stelevision actually, to be honest.
You don't like Coco Melon?
To be honest.
All television.
Pretty slop.
Like maybe shop for another day.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
So, but when you talk
about this, it's important Yes.

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A monumental moment
because, uh, I, Justine friend of thepodcast, as we mentioned friend of
the podcast, um, is the passion fruit.
Wow.
Yes.
And the passion Fruit isa, a core character in the
remaining annoying orange saga.
And I believe she still provides thevoice when the passion for it appears.

(24:33):
Yeah.
She is, I believe the second buildcharacter in terms of like, long
running stuff in the entire show.
Um, mainly because.
Dane played both plays, both theOrange and the Apple character.
Yes.
So Dane played several characters.
So other than Dane, the second buildis I, Justine, which crazy work.

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See how good is it?
How good is this podcast?
'cause we've done the I Justine episode.
So you know who this woman is.
So you were so excited you went.
That's I Justine, when I
heard I Justine's voice, it was like,you know, when you are stuck, the
heaven stuck in a, a conversation atwork with a, a coworker that you find,
uh, boring, uh, and then annoying.
You see your, your work wife slashhusband come to save you from the

(25:15):
tedium and you're like, oh, I Justine,
you're here.
How are goodness?
Yes.
Um, the episode itself, I don'tthink we need to talk about,
except they have a, the grapefruitcharacter, which is like passion
fruits boyfriend that's introduced.
He naturally gets chopped up.
Yeah.
But he has.
The most insane New York accent.

(25:37):
What, what are we going to do?
Yeah.
Um, and it's, it's a classicstereotype or representation.
'cause uh, I'm not sure, I'm not, I don'tknow where I land on this, but I was
like, does this feels insensitive, butthere's nothing really wrong with it.

(26:00):
But
no, I don't think being a, you know what,a New Yorker, I don't think if you're
Italian American, I feel like it's fine.
Christian, mark.
I dunno if I would do that.
I mean, it just did dothe accent, but, oh.
It just feels, uh, it just feelsa bit when they kill him so
horrifically immediately after.

(26:21):
Mm, I don't know.
I'm not, I don't have adeveloped feeling on this.
I just thought it was funny.
I, well,
not funny.
We'll see.
Intentionally see, right.
Just funny that it exists.
No, I agree.
It's, it's
funny.
Um, and we'll see many more,um, interesting stereotypes
throughout the annoying orange.
I also wanted to highlight the factthat they all seem to acknowledge
that the passion fruit was hot.

(26:42):
Like, well,
they were like, she's beautiful.
I think every collab we've seen with I,Justine in all media so far is Yeah, I
know They all, all based on her being hot,
which unfair to I, Justine.
I mean, not unfair, like she is beautiful,but like I do think it's interesting
that they're like, it's funny becauseshe's hot or like the joke is gonna be
that you are indescribably beautiful.

(27:03):
Um, even when she's presented asan anthropomorphic passion fruit,
like it's only her eyes and mouth,but they're like, oh my God.
Like it is.
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
We are unfortunate.
I think, but I think it's more just a,a natural result of how, um, stunted
a lot of the writing is in these.

(27:23):
It's also, it's also likea children's show, and it's
all been like boy characters so far.
So it's the first introductionof a girl and boys are like, wow,
girl, stinky, like, be my go.
You know what?
It's, yeah.
Yeah.
It, it kind of works for the humor, but
its, it's kind of sad that literally allthe YouTubers, like, it's the exact same
treatment that she got on the Fred Show.

(27:44):
Yeah.
And it's like,
which also
was weird.
Yeah.
'cause Fred was meant to be a child anyway.
No, no.
He was, he was.
Oh, that was NickelodeonFred at this point.
Oh.
Aged up
Fred, who is still
a teen.
Yeah.
So anyway,
um, we should do the, the, all themain YouTuber collabs, I think.
Yes.
After, oh my gosh.
So excited for this one.
Speaking of Fred, we have, uh,annoying Orange versus Fred,

(28:06):
which is uh, 57 million views.
Yeah.
And the other half well deserved.
The annoying orange Fred crossover.
'cause we saw Annoying Orange onFred Goes to the grocery store.
I believe that was the
video where he said like later on, thathe had no recollection of filming it.
Which is so funny to me.
He just blacked it out.
It
is crazy.

(28:27):
'cause like I don't think hewas on anything to, he wasn't
like a troubled child star,
like No, I think he was just like busy.
He was just like, he wasjust pumping out content.
So in the Fred Zone?
Yeah, in in the Fred Zone.
So it all, all the Fred blurred together.
But this is, um, presented.
It's just annoying.
Orange versus Fred.
It's presented as a boxing match.

(28:47):
Yeah.
They get teleported to a boxing ring.
Yeah.
Which is different for the Fred.
A breakin format.
Sorry.
Annoying orange format.
Yeah.
So far.
'cause they've just been in the kitchen.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so they're introduced.
There's a, the leprechaun,oh, what's his name?
Oh
gosh.
Do we have to talk?
Liam
Lor.
Uh, who as a side note is, uh, one of theother main voice actors for this series.

(29:09):
And he was on, he's a
recurring character.
Yeah.
He, he also voices abunch of other characters.
Is his name, is it
Dane or is it No, no, no, no.
It's a different, it's a different guy.
Who's, who's the person?
His
name is, let me pull it up.
Bobby Jennings.
And he is sorry on the seriesfor also like 10 years.
Okay.
Uh, he's not been there as, as ofrecent, but apparently he came back

(29:31):
like this year in 2025 to do a voice.
We need
to clarify, Liam, the leprechaun,as his name says, is a leprechaun.
He's not a piece of fruit.
He's just a random leprechaun withlike an Irish, very Irish, yes.
Like a stereotypical Irish accent.
Yes.
Um, he's fully basicallydoing like me Lucky Charms.
Yeah.
Um,
but he also has anunsuccessful spinoff channel.

(29:53):
Oh, that's not, he's got like 60or 80,000 subscribers, so we can't
Okay.
He has a,
he has a, he has achannel, a spinoff channel.
He plays the leprechaun character.
Sorry.
Okay.
We are gonna have to be real.
We did tab over to this channelto be like, wait, what is this?
Um, and the channel was him doinglike the leprechaun, like his own

(30:16):
annoying orange kind of version,but with Leprechaun, right?
The leprechaun character,green screen to doing bits.
Um, but then it kind of transitioned intohim, him doing like Roblox let's plays.
Yeah, he's like a family blogger.
Where, where he's like, no, not, not yet.
At this point he was just doingRoblox plays, but he's like, you know,
in the corner as like a streamer,but as the leprechaun character.

(30:38):
So you're watching Leprechaun playRoblox, and then later on we kind of,
he, so he does the full leprechaun getup,like he fully is like wearing the hat
and like doing like drawn on frecklesand then later on mi emojis exist.
So he just creates a MIMO of himself.
That's, that's V tubing.
It's
he's v tubing with hisown MIMO of himself.
So then it's just like an animated versionof the leprechaun playing Roblox, and then

(31:02):
now it's like family blogging and we'refully like seeing his child, and he's just
like a, he's just being an Irish man, likethe leprechaun facade is completely gone.
Anyway, I'm so sorry.
I feel like it's, I don't
actually know if he's Irish, but
No, I think he is.
Right.
Sure.
Surely.
No way.
No, you can't build your entirechannel about being Irish
and like not being Irish.
Right.
I just,
I, there's a lot of weirdnessaround the annoying orange and

(31:25):
not a lot of documentation.
Yeah.
So I'm just, well,
that's not true.
We haven't talked about.
When are we gonna talk about this?
Okay.
That's not a
reliable source, but I will get into it.
Okay.
I that's, sorry guys.
We,
I'll talk about it now, guys.
Okay.
There is, uh, a, uh, uh, what's this?
It's, it's fan, it's a Wiki fan.
What's the, oh,
fandom.wiki.
It's a fandom.
The

(31:45):
ownership, yeah.
Fandom.
Sorry.
It's so funny.
Controversial, uh, Wiki, uh, runner, butthey have a wiki for the Annoying Orange.
Um, and it has several thousand pages,including over 1500 character pages.
It's so comprehensive.
Like this is, if not the work oflike a very invested community.

(32:08):
It's at least like threepeople's special interest.
Yeah.
It's written in, uh, I wouldsay very like middling English.
Um, and the sourcing is quitesuspect, but someone has been
creating and like publishing these.
Pages, which is obviously like,
they've been
crazy.
They've updated
as of like 14 hours ago.

(32:30):
Like they're still, it's, it'sbeing updated like consistently now.
Um, yeah, it's how many, ithad like how many characters?
It had like a thousand characters andyou can just 1500 and you can just
scroll and there's like every, it'slike truly they've documented the entire
history of the channel and as we'vesaid, they've uploaded two to three
videos every week for the past 10 years.

(32:52):
So there's a lot to document.
But yeah.
So we can't say it's not Okay.
Well we can maybe argue thatit's not well documented, but
it is documented by some people.
Yeah, but like, I can't
believe this when I say
that.
Bobby Jennings graduated fromEmerson College with a BS
in communications in 1997.
It is currently the head of distributorrelations at Advocate Safeguard.

(33:13):
I can't say that that's true ornot 'cause it's just listed on his
page in Text with No Source Maybe,
maybe Bobby.
I went to the thing andwas like, that's not right.
It's crazy if you're doing thisannoying orange voice for 10
years, but also have like this likeexecutive level finance job anyway.
Well, anyway, pleaseback to Fred, our king.

(33:35):
Yes.
The Fred annoying orange crossover.
They're in the boxing ring.
Fred is teleported there and at thispoint, um, Lucas is like not a child.
He's like a teen.
Yes.
And the way that the Fred videos a shot,is that because Fred is a, a 4-year-old?
Correct.
Go

(33:55):
listen to the episode onFred if you haven't already.
Because Fred is a 4-year-old explainer
in the YouTube videos.
He is shot.
A perspective where itmakes him look like a child.
Right.
So they're doing a lotof, uh, stuff facing down.
Yeah.
They're minimizing his height and so on.
Yeah.
But in this video, they teleport himinto the ring and it's just Teen Lucas
standing up, but he's still doing the Fredmannerisms, which is just, um, screaming.

(34:20):
Basically,
I, this was the first time as we weredoing a watch through, and we're not
even like talking about every video wewatched, like we're just talking about
once, where we have something to say.
This was the first time in probablylike an hour where I audibly laughed.
I also laughed when I saw Fred.
I was like, oh.
It was like, I just, I was like my friend.
I know
that's, it's the magic of YouTubeand collaborations, but, you know, in

(34:41):
the, the YouTube cinematic universe.
But seeing Fred Teleported, he'salso like, yeah, green screened in
with his full body into a boxing.
It's also like in space, um.
But then he, he starts talking,but he just keeps intermittently
screaming between like each sentence.
Like he'll just be like,I can't believe I'm here.
The co like the thing isn't that they'refighting, it's that they're competing

(35:05):
to see who is the most annoying.
Yeah.
They're having an annoying off.
And so it goes back and forth withthe, not the orange doing me with
myself, all their bits being likelaughing or telling bad jokes.
And then it just goes back to Fredwho just mostly just screams, right.
That's the Fred thing.
But I think it's so funny that theannoying orange will tell like a bad
joke, which is I guess annoying andthen Fred just goes, and I think that's,

(35:28):
that actually is comedy to me in a way.
I mean, it's interesting that, youknow, I don't think many sort of
children's entertainment thinkswould quantify that they're like.
Well my character is really annoying.
That's like it's thing.
And even put the annoying meter and belike, we're competing to be so annoying.

(35:49):
'cause an annoying is like anegative characteristic, right?
Mm.
And a lot of media, they don't,they don't want characters to have
ne negative characteristics 'causethey want the audience to feel good.
Well,
but I think the thing is that likeadults will think it's annoying, but
kids think being annoying is funny.
Do you know what I mean?
Like kids, you know like when kidsare like annoying parents and they're

(36:09):
just like, this is actually hysterical'cause you're getting a reaction.
So
Yeah, like kids,
kids think it's funny to be like a randomand to just randomly scream and to like
exhibit like inappropriate behavior.
I'm giving like child psychologist vibes.
Um, but you know what I mean?
Like it just, anyway, Ithought this one was funny.

(36:29):
I don't think it's funny in the way thatthey intended for it to, well maybe it is.
No, I don't think so.
I just think it's ironically,like really funny.
It's more just watching Lucascontinually like scream in
like the high pitched thing.
Um, and also at this point Lucasis like fully, like a teenager.
Like an adolescent, and he'sjust screaming on the green
screen and competing against it.
Anthropomorphic orange.

(36:51):
I thought it was funny.
It's probably either thisor the following video.
It's probably our favoriteannoying orange video, right?
I'm I'm talking about Lady Pasta.
Oh, banger.
The
Lady Gaga parody.
So many, how many, this is like probablywhat the fourth or Fifth Lady Gaga parody
we've seen, uh, through this series.
It's like every

(37:11):
comedy or parody YouTuber will cover.
It's usually like, it's like LadyGaga, Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus.
It's the, the Holy Trinity of Parody.
Parody grounds.
Yeah.
So Lady Pasta is.
You know, talking Pasta, uh, andshe's played by Lauren Francesca.
Mm-hmm.
You were familiar with Lauren?

(37:31):
I believe
I, I heard the voice and Iwas like, I know this voice.
I know this woman.
Um, and yes, Lauren is part of theKey of Awesome, which is a musical
parody group, which I was also familiarwith as a child, so I'm probably
sure, pretty sure that's how it is.
Um, can't wait to cover them on the pod.
I don't think you will like it at all.

(37:53):
Okay.
That's, that's oms.
There's also, this song was writtenby the Greg Gregory Brothers.
Yes.
Which I also picked Yeah.
Of Song of Fire.
The news formally Auto-Tune the news.
Yeah.
I don't know what Schmo,Yoho any of that means.
Schmo.
Yoyoyo.
Yo.
No.
Schmo.
Yoho Schmo.
Yoho.
Yeah.
Do
Well, you do know, you do know Schmo Yoho.

(38:13):
You just don't know that.
You know Schmo.
Yoho.
Okay.
Do, are you sure?
I am.
You've seen strange things?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, do.
They're still active.
Yes.
Do you know?
That is crazy.
Chrissy wake up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chrissy wake up.
Yeah, that's my her.
How is that
song by the news?
Or do they have multiple channels?
It's, it's like Schmo, Yoho or like theGregory Brothers have multiple projects.

(38:37):
A la like Neil Cga.
Okay.
So that's like, you know, SchmoYoho iss, like their Lemon Demon
swag.
I say, I'm not entirely sure,but you know what I mean?
They have multiple things thatthey do, but they got famous doing
like Song Fire, the news, which youwatched some of, we won't go into
it, but I, the Annoying Orange didalso do a, a bed intruder parody.

(38:57):
And I was like, oh, weshould definitely watch this.
But then you didn'tknow anything about it.
So then I had to like, showyou the bed intru video because
we, that's like not a channel.
Mm. It's just like a viral video.
Um, so look, watch.
Yeah.
I don't think I've ever seen
that, to be honest.
Okay.
Um, but it was a good learning experience.
Next time someone does hide your kids,hide your Wives, I'll be like, ah.
Bed intruder.

(39:18):
A fellow early YouTube, uh, respecter.
Yeah, there you go.
Um, but back to Lady Pasta.
I just need to comment on this.
'cause I, I got really into this.
I think at this point my brainwas starting to melt 'cause we'd
tapped through like a good amount ofannoying orange, like classic video.
So anytime there was a break informat, I was like, sweet relief.

(39:39):
Um, so the pasta is brought intothe kitchen, but it's wearing
a wig and it and like clothes.
And I just, this kind of broke, 'causeI was trying to understand like the
law or the, you know, like what arethe conventions of the annoying Orange?
'cause they're all just like fruitand vegetables and like groceries
and they a sentient, but thenwhy does the pasta have a wig?

(40:00):
Gaga?
No, but yeah, Gaga.
But like, you're not buying, 'cause it'slike she's come from the grocery store,
so why has she got a wig and like a skirt?
I'm just, I'm moving pasta.
'cause I obviously get thatit's just like ridiculous.
But I was, I was sort of justlike, just let her be spaghetti.
Like with some fun like packaging.
I don't know.
Anyway, clearly I'm getting too big formy boots and that I'm like, I should have

(40:22):
a creative input on the Annoying Orange.
But what did you think of the song?
I thought it was good.
I thought it was proficient.
Yeah,
but not funny
pasta.
Ooh, la la.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like
it, it hit all of the bad Romance beats.
Um, it
rhymed with the lyrics.
Yeah, but I just, with the original song,
I don't really know.
Think if you haven't heard the song,imagine what if we did a past a themed

(40:47):
version of Bad Romance and you wouldbe like, oh yeah, you could do that.
And that's kind of it.
'cause was it very funny?
No,
I thought it was funny, butI think Oh, you liked it.
But again, I think with the layer of irony
where I, my brain was also laughingat the fact that someone was like, we
should do a pasta themed version of BadRomance and do it like proficiently.

(41:07):
And also the annoying orangesthere being like, whoa.
I
do think it was justlike, it's like dartboard.
So like what food item have wenot made a character of yet?
What food item
have we not made a character?
What's currently viral and popular?
Yeah.
'cause at this point theAnnoying Orange is doing lots of
parodies of like popular things.
There was also a Charlie of the Unicornparody, which I got excited for, 'cause
we've just covered Charlie The Unicorn.

(41:29):
But funnily enough, they didn't actuallycollaborate with John the Unicorn.
They just like ripped the, theanimation and like overlaid like
the annoying orange onto it.
Yeah.
And, and dubbing it.
Which is kind of disappointing.
I mean, I understand like maybe theyemailed Film Cow and Film Cow was
like, I'm busy and I don't know.
I wanna collaborate withthe Annoying Orange.
But it was funny to just see like.

(41:49):
Them just like ripping Charliethe unicorn, like literally
like taking the assets of theanimation and just reusing it.
I mean, that's something that islike hallmark of this channel.
The parodies.
Yeah.
But I don't, I don't knowif I prefer the parodies.
No, I think I definitely do becauseusually at least with the parody, it's
like, like, I like Charlie, the unicorn.

(42:11):
Yeah.
So I, I think I, I
know I can see from the Wiki that there'sa, there's like a collaborations page,
but it mixes actual collaborations.
Like when they had the Mosh boyson with the, the parodies of media.
Like they, they did a,a take on how to basic.
Oh yeah.
Are you familiar with how to basic?
Not really.

(42:31):
Okay.
But I know you've toldme about it, I think.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
Final YouTube collaborator I wannadiscuss is the, the video Kung
Fruit, and it features Shane Dawson.
Rewind time.
Bingo.
Shane Dawson mentioned,yeah, every episode
he plays a coconut.
Um, and I would describe it asa, a very stereotypical kung

(42:56):
fu character in western media.
Mm-hmm.
You know, he does the, the kung fu noises.
I'm sure you can imaginewhat that sounds like.
Does the, you know, the karate chop noise?
Mm-hmm.
I'm not gonna do it.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but why not?
Why not?
Because everyone knowswhat it sounds like.
Mm. Would you like to do animpression of the voice so you

(43:19):
don't have to do the comfy noises?
Would you like to just doan impression of the voice?
I'm not
gonna do the voice.
If you are interested, youshould watch kung fruit.
It's only about four minutes long.
Uh,
any particular reason whyyou don't wanna do the voice?
I
just think it's, uh.
It has the potential tobe culturally insensitive.
Mm-hmm.
I don't wanna say that it's racist.
Um, 'cause I'm not sure if there'sa race of the, the coconut.

(43:41):
Um, but it's, it's, um,it's a gray area personally.
But I do think havingwatched this video No.
And getting glimpses of some of ShaneDawson's stuff through the series
so far, guy, he seems pretty funny.
Uh, oh.
He seems like the vocal delivery andthis, it's like the voice acting is good.

(44:02):
Like he really commitsand like, I was like yeah,
he does certainly commit todoing what is asked of him,
which is to do kung fu noises.
Yeah.
And be a kung fu coconut.
Yeah.
I was like, I was also sort of like,you, like a bit brain melted by the
channel, but it like brought me backand I was like, I'm, you know, I'm kind
of keen for the Shane Dawson episode

(44:24):
Uhhuh.
Dunno anything about what'sgoing on with him, but I would
say the accent and voice acting inthis one, in the scale of Shane Dawson,
uh, portraying different charactersextremely mild compared to Oh,
so it gets more extreme?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, this is like level oneand we go up to like level 10.

(44:49):
You're speaking my language.
No.
No.
Okay.
Um, so yeah.
Did you like the Shane Dawson feature?
Um, remove
all of the knowledge youhave of Shane Dawson.
It's a good use of, putyourself in my shoes.
It's a good use of Shane Dawson.
It's a good use of, okay.
I, I did listen to, um, an interviewwith Dane who was talking about the

(45:11):
process of collaborating with otherYouTubers or like celebrities and stuff,
which I'm sure we'll, we'll get to.
But she was saying a lot of theYouTubers or like people she
would work with, she would haveto be like, no, you need to do it.
Like bigger and like, becauseit's like voice acting.
And this is actually an interview withthe, the Smosh Boys and they were talking

(45:32):
about how also for their videos, whenthey'd have people come and be in a
Smosh video, I have to like encouragethem to overact because they're like,
this won't, even though you are actingwell, like this won't play well in Yeah.
Like the, the context of our, our stuff.
So I think having people like Shane Dawsonwho have extremely large personalities and
can be really like over the top on camera,um, it will play well to animation.

(45:56):
Mm. A very diplomatic answer.
Yeah.
Diplomatic
answer.
Yeah.
Alright.
So there are other prominent figuresthat come onto the Annoying Orange in
later years, and I will read betweenthe lines and say that this is due
to shared management between theAnnoying Orange and these celebrities

(46:17):
because there is some stuff about theannoying Orange and the management
company having a falling out around.
2014. Yeah.
Which we don't need toget into, but kind of
unclear.
It's not really quite as interestingas like the Smosh, like ownership
drama or anything like that.
It kind of is just like they, yeah.
It's just management drama.

(46:39):
Maybe some like mishandling of, you know,not being paid on time and you know.
Yeah, it's, I
just saw from that, that John Zamo, whois one of the people who appear on the
annoying oranges, annoying orange, sorry,share management with the annoying orange.
So that's why I'm like, ah, Isee how the phone call was made.

(47:01):
Yeah.
And we have Jay, sorry, John Zamo up here.
Well, yes, we did justsee that on the channel.
Before we like read up about it andwe were just like, why is John Zamo?
Yeah.
Well they also get, thisone is actually crazy.
James Kahn, who I think most famouslyplayed Sonny in The Godfather, and
he would've been quite old at thispoint 'cause he died a few years back.

(47:24):
Um, and it's, it's, you know, Idon't wanna say it's sad to imagine
him doing this, but it does.
Um,
no it's fine.
It's, I do think it's maybe taintshis legacy when on, when you look
on IMDB and the Annoying OrangeWeb series is, uh, listed and then
also Jamie Oliver appears, oh.
Which I do think plays into his,you know, um, passion for children's

(47:51):
food because this is a channelwatched by children about food.
I
actually would not be surprised if GordonRamsey also went on the Annoying Orange.
Actually, that would be so funny.
That would be a good collab.
'cause he'd be like, you're so annoying.
Shut up, you stupid fruit.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah, I see it.
Um, but Jamie would just be like, I thinkmaybe, maybe they should never off, maybe

(48:11):
they never offered him enough money.
Oh.
Because I do think Ramsey's bag motivated.
Yeah.
But Jamie, he does itfor the love of the kids.
That sounded not good.
Uh, the love of Children's Nutrition.
Yeah.
It is one of his big passionsand honestly is wait.
Can I talk about No, this is,
you wanna talk about the DS game?

(48:31):
Yeah,
I wanna talk about it.
Alright,
you have one.
You have one minute.
I wanna talk about what's,you have one minute.
I wanna
talk about what's cookingwith Jamie Oliver.
The greatest DS game of all time, itis a cooking simulation game where you
can play and you can cook recipes, butyou can also just make your own thing.
And then at the end of, you can justfully free, free ball, you can make
whatever you want in the kitchenand then you can plate up a pile
of slop and it is kind of accurate.

(48:52):
Like if you fry it, it's fried slop.
And then at the end Jamie will rate it.
And because it's a children's game,he'll always be like, that's delicious.
And he does like these voice lines.
He's like, time for a midnight snack.
Um, and I used to make slop and I'djust make like the most disgusting
things and I'd feed it to Jamie and he'dbe like, that's your five star meal.
So anyway, and the music's really good.

(49:14):
It's like
banger.
I also still have the DS game.
Wow.
Yeah, it's really good.
I should play it after this.
Sounds great.
You should, um, definitely report backin your subscription section next week.
Anyway, everyone let me know inthe comments below or if you're in
Spotify or whatever, comment on theepisode and let me know if you also
have played the Jamie Oliver DS game.

(49:35):
What's cooking with Jamie Oliver?
That was a really good fruity questionof the day, which is the end card
format, the annoying Orange usersto drive engagement in the comments.
Sorry, I had to talk about ithere because when else am I
gonna be able to talk about it?
Um, whenever Jamie Oliver
pops up again, which I'm sure he will
at this point.
Mm.
Around early 2010s.

(49:56):
Mm. Fred of course has hisNickelodeon show and movie empire.
Mm-hmm.
And it's clear that Cartoon Network, werealso like, we have to get into the online
video children's television show mm-hmm.
Crossover.
And so we get the high fructoseadventures of Annoying orange.

(50:17):
Which is a, I believe, 60 episodeCartoon Network, original series based
on the annoying Orange web series.
Yeah.
With a lot of the cast, includingI, Justine reprising their roles.
We watched one of these episodes.
What are your thoughts?
I
have no, I don't remember it.
You're much like Fred recording, uh, hisgrocery video with the Annoying Orange.

(50:39):
I like, I know that we did.
I just think I was likementally not there.
Yeah.
I think I, I think I exitedmy own body to protect myself.
Yeah.
This episode was about, it was likea, a take on the zombie apocalypse,
but it had the fruit, uh, and thezombies were naturally also food items.
And it basically is just aslightly higher budget version of

(51:03):
the Annoying Orange web series.
Yeah.
We leave the
kitchen
Yeah.
With TV length episodes.
But the animation style, they,they keep it much the same.
So if you, if you don't like the AnnoyingOrange Web series, I don't think you're
gonna get a lot out of the TV show.
Yeah, kind of.
It's a bit like the Fred Show, butthey actually toned Fred quite a bit

(51:23):
down for his, like, actual media stuff.
Whereas they
also did like musicalnumbers in the Fred Show.
Yeah.
And not that I'm like positive on theFred Show and, and John Cena was there,
and Fred, the movie and my own personalexperiences with Fred, the movie RIP.
Um, but yeah, it's, it'sjust like more of the same.
Mm-hmm.
It's just, it's like, what if weput, I think it's a good example

(51:44):
of if we pour more money onto this,like, does this make it much better?
'cause sometimes it is a case of like,if we give, you know, let's say let's
take something like a a a another comedyshow where it's like if we give them more
money, it's like, oh cool, we can do theselike musical numbers or these more like
expensive bits that are like really funny.
Um, but if you put more money ontothe annoying orange, I don't think

(52:05):
it actually makes it any funnier.
Well, you
know what?
It does give you when you putmore money into something.
Yeah.
Very high profile guest stars.
Oh.
Because this show has the most insane.
Guest stars.
All right.
Okay.
I wanna
do a little quiz.
Ooh.
Where I'm gonna give you one starin the annoying Orange Cartoon
Network Show and one, not star IE.

(52:28):
I'm gonna give you two options and you'regonna pick who starred in the show.
All right?
Okay.
Let's go
which of these stars were in theAnnoying Orange Cartoon Network Show?
Okay.
Tim Curry or Christopher Lloyd.
Christopher Lloyd.
Wrong.
Tim Curry what?
Jason Bateman or Tony Hale.

(52:49):
Tony Hale, correct.
Okay.
Kristen Chenowith or Jane Lynch?
Christian Chenowith.
No.
Jane Lynch.
Um, this is, this is actually crazy.
Jack Black or Dave Grohl?
Jack Black?
No.
Dave Grohl.
What?
Leah.
Michelle or Rachel Bloom?
Leah.
Michelle?

(53:09):
No.
Rachel Bloom.
What?
All right.
Academy Award winners here.
Gary Oldman or Malcolm McDowell?
Gary Altman.
No.
Malcolm McDowell.
Oh, I'm not good at this game,
I don't think.
I don't think any of them make sense.
Um, final one.
So these are models.
Gigi Hadid or Kendall Jenner.

(53:32):
Kendall,
correct.
Wow.
And this is, we'll just doan Australian, uh, link here.
So Danny Minogue or Kylie Minogue.
Danny?
No.
Kylie.
Kylie?
Yeah.
Kylie.
Why?
Uh, like, I don't know, but,
but I need to know whatcharacters they all played.
Like did they just playlike versions of themselves?
You should go.
I,
no, they, they
played fruit.
No.
Like, but a fruit version of themself.

(53:52):
Like,
no, they played like villains.
They played plot points.
Oh, they didn't?
Yeah.
They
weren't just being like,
some people were, but mostlythey were guest stars.
Wow.
Like the list is like, I'llshow you here, but like, oh my
God.
Felicia Day.
Someone who will cover mm-hmm.
But also Tom Kenny who voices?
Danny Trejo.
Danny Trejo.

(54:12):
Um, both Olivia Wildand Olivia Mu, you know?
Yeah.
Clearly looking for CartoonNetwork work money at the time.
It's like weird.
Like,
that makes sense.
Tony Hawk, Gilbert Godfried.
That's so funny.
Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool.
Um, yeah, that's pretty crazy.
Who, I guess it's Cartoon Network thatwould be asking the question rather

(54:34):
than like, do you know what I mean?
I just don't know if it's, it's, it'stough 'cause I don't watch a lot of
children's tv, but I don't know if thevoice acting work, is that lucrative that
it gets like, I think it's like a favor.
Yeah.
Like, or
it's like a maybe your kidslike it or your kids like it.
Yeah.
But if Kendall Jenners, like,she was a child, so it's like,

(54:54):
was were they just like, Kendall?
Do you think she is anannoying orange head?
Ki I, maybe it's like Kylie was a fan andKendall was like, I'll do this for Kylie.
I mean, it does kind of go against her.
Um.
Sort of reputation is like theclassy Kardashian that she's doing.
Guest voice acting forthe annoying orange.

(55:14):
No, I,
I mean it's like, but it being goodnature and going on a a show and
just being like, wow, thanks Orange.
That was my impression.
Mm. Anyway.
That is crazy.
That is so crazy.
Yeah.
Fun
game.
Thank you.
So
after two seasons, the show ended60 episodes though, so Oh my God.
They'll get residuals fromthat for the rest of time.

(55:37):
So go off.
And then weirdly enough, at this point, Idon't think there's sort of any mainstream
cut through for the annoying orange.
There's not really any discussionof what the channel does.
There's not any coverageof anything basically.
People forget about the annoyingorange except for the some 13 million

(55:59):
subscribers to this YouTube channel.
Yeah.
So question though, when did theCARTO Network show run from until,
um, I believe it ran till 2014.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
Yes.
So it ran from June 11th,2012 to March 17th, 2014.
Yeah.
So, okay.
I think that does answermy question as well.
'cause I would've definitelybeen aged out of this content.

(56:20):
'cause at this point I wasa senior in high school.
Honestly, I don't
think either of us wereaged into this content.
No, but you know, there, you
know how sometimes you're like, oh, maybethere's a gap there at the beginning.
But
no, don't think so.
Um, yeah, I mean, it's getting allpress, like, it's obviously like a hugely
successful YouTube channel, but it isone of those things where I'm like.
It, it, I do think is mostlypopular with children.
So it's not getting the same cut through.

(56:41):
Like, I'm across Shane Dawson,I'm across Mosh, like broadly.
Even if I'm not like watchingtheir content on a day to day,
I'm still like aware of them.
I like, I like memoryHold The Annoying Orange.
Yeah.
And also with the, theexception of, oh sorry.
We need to, before we move onfrom Cartoon Network, the Star
of the Cartoon Network show.

(57:03):
Oh.
Because I didn't know who this guy was.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh star.
We were watching the trailer.
Someone called Toby Turner.
Yeah.
And then people say, oh, he's part ofthe reason that the show was canceled.
I dunno about that.
'cause I think he was
canceled.
Well, yeah.
TV shows for kids thatdon't run that long.
Yeah.
Because they do a bunch of episodes.
But
I mean, they could just replace him.

(57:24):
But if he, I think he would've been akey part of their, like their formula.
'cause they're like, we're notjust getting the annoying orange,
we're also getting prominent likefamous YouTuber, Toby Turner.
Yep.
To be like the, the, the Steveto the oranges, blues clues.
Yes.
Kind of blue.
Yeah.
And I don't know anythingabout Toby Turner at all.

(57:45):
I I literally have never heard of him.
That's
actually not true.
We did talk about him so briefly inthe I Justine episode, I'm pretty sure.
But yeah, I, I didn't,
yeah, it's good that itdidn't leave an impression
because Are we gonna cover him?
I like, I'm under like,I think, I think so.
Yeah.
I think so.

(58:05):
I think we have to.
I think we have to.
He's part of the
law now,
but yeah, he's been like tryingto make a comeback like recently
as of like a couple of weeks ago.
Wow.
So we might have some current, butyeah, we're not gonna go into it
in this episode 'cause it's kindof like a bit of a tonal shift.
But, uh, to B Turner was very prominentYouTuber and kind of associated

(58:26):
with, um, a lot of our kind ofmain big YouTubers, mosh pity pie.
I, Justine, um, and then disappeared.
For some reasons, some, somereasons, um, which we will cover
in the episode if we do that.
Um, but yeah, he was the main guy.

(58:47):
I saw it and it was like, Iwas like, I know that man.
And then you were like, it's Toby Turner.
And I was like, oh, I just think
from context clues here, I'm gonna assumethat he, you know, man in children's
entertainment, YouTuber canceled.
He, uh, he's probably, uh,there's probably some accusations.

(59:08):
Yeah.
Some pretty
bad ones.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well he is not a part of theannoying orange universe anymore.
Nope.
Who is I?
Justine remains voicing the passion fruit.
Mm-hmm.
Seemingly till present day.
Crazy.
But the otherwise, the collaborationsseem to sort of fall off and the
annoying Orange continues releasingtwo to three episodes every week.

(59:31):
And they.
Until quite recently, they maintain thesame sort of hallmarks of the channel.
The orange is annoying,it talks to other fruit.
There are parodies of popularmedia, parodies of, uh,
politicians current events.
Yeah.
Donald Trunk.
Donald Trunk.
Yes.
Take a look at the 1500 Charact, sorry.

(59:52):
Long character list on the Wiki Petee.
Mm-hmm.
Sorry.
The, the annoying Orange Wiki.
If you're curious, I would
say one thing that was, uh,somewhat notable is there's a
character called Marshmallow.
Yeah.
Where the fans debated about whethermarshmallow was a boy or a girl.
'cause marshmallow has like a reallyhigh pitched, like, annoying voice.
Um, really different for the channel.
Yeah.

(01:00:12):
Um, but then they actually do aPride episode where the marshmallow
genuinely does come out as a non-binary
crazy.
And says, I'm not a boy or a girl.
Wow.
Yeah.
And fans were quite upset.
Wait, what?
Yeah, they were like.
But in, because marshmallow is a longrunning character, and so in early
episodes they maybe on, on one occasionhad referred to them by like a gendered

(01:00:36):
pronoun, and then they kind of stoppedit and like played into the Yeah.
Yeah.
And so they were like,they said this, the woke
mind virus Yeah.
Is destroying the annoying orange saga.
Yeah.
Um, but Dane, uh, actually spoke abouthow this was something she really
wanted to do for, uh, the channel.
Um, because as we mentioned earlier,um, Dane was transitioning, um,

(01:01:01):
and they wanted to have like acharacter on their show, um, yeah.
Be, be non-binary and be speakingabout pride and like real issues.
And I thought that was kind of cute.
And they have mentioned that actuallypeople have said something like,
oh, like, I'm like non-binary.
Like, like children are commentingbeing like, oh, I'm like a non-binary.
And it's so cool that I get to see acharacter on my favorite, my favorite

(01:01:23):
show also be non-binary like me.
And I think that is wholesome.
Yeah.
It's.
Crazy that, um, sort of likeconservative outrage media didn't
pick this up and run stories beinglike, remember the annoying orange?
It's turning your kids non-binary.
Yeah.
I don't think I, I mean,maybe it did happen.
We, we might've missed it, but I,
I, I swear there's been no coverageof the annoying orange YouTube stuff.

(01:01:48):
Don't know if it's stuff thatbeauty, YouTube stuff know coverage.
It's
just stuff that like, it has notmade its way to us, or at least
it's not made its way to me.
And I'm someone who'slike pretty across Yeah.
YouTube news.
But are we, are we now up to thepoint where we talk about the
current, like what's kind of currentlygoing on with the Annoying Orange?
Yeah.
So there is an annoyingOrange Kids channel.

(01:02:08):
Oh yeah.
Like specifically annoying Orange kids.
And the animation style isdifferent and it is expressly
content that is family friendly.
Mm-hmm.
Which as we know is important for.
Channels that wanna be on YouTube kids.
Mm-hmm.
And, you know, cynically, it's like, well,you, you train them up on annoying orange
kids and then they graduate to annoyingon annoying Orange mainline channel.

(01:02:34):
I say Annoying Orange adults.
Yeah.
But I was like, uh,
um, because I imagine we both agreethat, uh, the, the people watching
the new Annoying Orange videos arestill for the most part, children,
they're just not so young that theirparents gave their YouTube access.
They're
not like three, they would be like
seven.
Seven.

(01:02:55):
Uh, there's also AnnoyingOrange gaming, which was much
like our leprechaun channel.
Uh, just the Orange doing gamingvideos looks like a lot of Roblox.
Something that kids famously love.
Mm-hmm.
But, uh, that has been sort ofleft without an upload for a year.
'cause I could see kids in the,sorry, commenters, maybe adults

(01:03:16):
in the comments being like.
Orange.
It's, it's been a year.
Where are you?
It's been a year, daddy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Please come back and game.
We
really, really miss you.
So like there's, there's clearly enoughdedicated fans and, sorry, these videos
all getting like a hundred thousand views.
Yeah.
This is not like a Venetian princess, like
Annoying Orange does all beannoying Orange dress to em place.
Yeah, sure.

(01:03:37):
I see.
Um, and then I'm cool with the kids.
Okay, so current Annoying Orange.
Oh my God, I believe seasons 15 to 17.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a season structure.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um, and so there, there begins anarc called the analog orange Saga,
which comes from the, like, I believeit's shocktober, is the, the seasonal

(01:04:01):
event that the channel does wherethey do spooky videos for October.
But the analog orange is like an evilversion of the annoying orange there,
presentation of the analog orange.
They have, uh, like a VCR effectcome on the screen and the orange
has very scary, sharp teethand it then incorporates other.

(01:04:25):
Horror tropes.
Like there are lots of spiders.
There's evil clouds.
There's like
a black goo Yeah.
Black glue.
Very prominent.
The the orange vomits black goo.
There's black goo covering a lot of stuff.
It's How familiar areyou with creepy pasta?
Not like creepy pastas.
I, I'm,
I know people do like, I, I'maware of what they are, but not,

(01:04:47):
you know who Jeff Killer is?
No, I haven't read any of them.
Really?
You, but you know, Slenderman.
I am familiar with the game, so, yes.
What?
Okay.
Sorry.
The way you were about to saythat was like, no, not really.
And I was like, please, I
haven't read anyslenderman written content.
So No.
Slenderman au high school Fanfic?
No.
Oh, okay.
Disappointing.
Um, okay.

(01:05:07):
But yeah, it's verylike creepy pasta to me.
I hate it.
I, well, okay.
I don't hate it.
I just don't like looking at it.
It's similar to our discussion earlier.
Oh my gosh.
It came back.
It's been relevant.
Um, I'm a bit of a scaredy cat, and sosometimes even when we're scrolling.
Like through movies and stuff, like Idon't like looking at the movie poster for
like the terrifying movies or Saw X whereI can see the tubes going into, I can see,

(01:05:32):
I can see the tubes going into the eyes.
Ew.
Sorry.
I just like thought about it.
It's like, ugh.
Anyway, I don't like seeing the thumbnailsof these analog orange videos because
they all are like very disturbed.
I will say it's about likeseven minutes per episode or so.
Like they, they fully are like full, youknow, full animated episodes and it's
only about like a minute towards the endwhere they start doing the creepy stuff.

(01:05:55):
The rest of it's just like annoa normal, well normal quote
unquote annoying orange episode.
So they really kind of draw you in.
It's like click bait for the creepy stuff.
It's, yeah, it's like Elsa Gate.
It's the stuff that they always go onabout where they, so they honey pot
children into watching what they thinkis kids' content and then it's spooky,
but it's, but it's the reverse of that.

(01:06:15):
The kids know it's spooky whenthey click it or if it's just
running on a playlist, I suppose.
They don't know.
Yeah, we didn't know.
Okay.
But.
It also reminds me of, um, now I'mnot so familiar with this, but there
is this game called Poppy's Playtime.
Mm. Are you aware of this?
No.
Where there's like a, just lookup the, look it up so you can see
the picture of the little guy.
Um, but it's like this little monster.

(01:06:36):
It's like a game where it chases you.
I don't know what theexact origin of it is.
I'm, I've like the
memes and roblox where this,
this, this, that is the thing.
And, okay.
When you go to like, thecca, this is so niche.
When you go to like a, a, a showlike a a, a county fair, a carnival,
you can win these like toys,

(01:06:56):
okay.
In the games.
No, you just need to go to the
images so you can see, oh,
I don't like this.
Yeah,
I don't like it either.
It's a bad vibe.
It's
giving faff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's giving faff, but you need to,yeah, so that's what it's reminding me
of is like all of these things now, Iwas like, what's the origin of this?
Like why did we decide to startdoing like spooky orange times?

(01:07:16):
But then I was researching for thisepisode and I came across a meme
that became popularized in 2023, soaround the time that this started.
Yep.
Which is called Annoying OrangeAmazing Grace, which is just where
it plays the original annoying orangevideo where he said, Hey Apple.
Hey Apple.
Hey, hey Apple.
Hey apple.
And then the apple's like, what?

(01:07:37):
What is it?
And then, I don't knowhow to describe this.
The face becomes like cursed.
Yeah.
It becomes like a bit deep fried andthe mouth like opens and it starts just
playing like a recording from like theforties or something of Amazing Grace.
Mm-hmm.
Spooky.
Yeah.
I actually think that this is funny.
I thought this was funny.

(01:07:58):
Um, but so that then spawned abunch of people doing variations
of annoying orange, like creepypasta, like haunted videos.
So I wonder if, and I'm not ahundred percent sure, I wonder if
Dane saw these being popularized?
'cause it's people like, kind ofironically doing it because obviously
it's like the annoying orange and theseare like, probably like teens or young
adults or big adults, I don't know.

(01:08:19):
Um, making these memes.
And then Dane was like, but whatif I actually did do like a horror
concept with annoying orange?
Yeah.
Fair enough.
I I, that's my theory.
I'm sure there's probablysomething out there where Dane's
like that's exactly what I did.
They might have just also done thisanalog orange character in the seasonal
event and those videos got Yeah.
True.
More views.
And hence we got two and ahalf seasons of this saga.

(01:08:41):
True.
Where the annoying orange is.
It's actually kind of like, rememberwhen Fred trapped, original Fred Yes.
For like two years andthen we had Kareem Fred.
Yeah.
Because this original orangeis trapped somewhere in this
law and they have to save him.
And I believe they saved him this year.
Actually it was only
like a few weeks ago, I think.
Where So AO was out.
Yeah.
Good for him.

(01:09:01):
Sway.
Um,
free him.
There's something quite, um, andwe don't know this for certain, but
the, the videos have a sheen of ai.
Yeah, if you've
seen what Midjourney or other videoAI tools present, there's like a, a
glossiness, particularly the goo spiders,the clowns, all the stuff that is like,

(01:09:25):
not like it, it presents as live actionfootage, but, well, it presents it as
like in like a dream, like kind of stickand it's got like an A VCR filter over it.
But it does look like, yeah,
I, I don't think any of it isshot, like in a traditional sense.
It doesn't.
It just doesn't.
Or, or
it's not like animated, but I,I mean, we don't know for sure.

(01:09:46):
No.
But yeah, it has like the,it's, it's like someone dumped
a bunch of creepy pasta shit.
It'd also be like so
expensive to them all of a sudden Yeah.
Start shooting.
Like, no, of course.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like, yeah, it gives like.
I was like, oh, this is anamalgamation of like every creepy
pasta thing that I've ever seen.
Yeah.
Do you, do you know whatJeff, the killer looks like?

(01:10:07):
No.
Can you look him up?
I want you to see him for the first time.
Jeff, the killer?
Yeah, just look up Jeff, the killer.
I actually don't wanna look.
There's
also AI content just on annoyingOrange channel where they're like, we
did, we changed the orange with ai.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Okay.
So they're definitely AI tools.
Okay.
Do you like that?
Uh, no.
Can you close it?
It's scary.
I don't wanna

(01:10:27):
look.
Can you close it?
Sorry, I'm scared.
No, please don't.
No, please don't open the, Idon't wanna look at that anymore.
Like,
I just don't Who is into, I guess, like,people that are really into horror, but,
um, teenage girls Love Jeff The killer.
This is, it's, there's Fanfic, my one, oneof my all time favorite Jenny Nicholson
videos is her reading The Self-publishedJeff the killer, like Fanfic book.

(01:10:47):
Mm-hmm
Mm. And then they go to the SlenderMan mansion and she lives there.
Ew.
I really don't like that image.
Or, you know, Momo right?
No, I dunno.
Any of this.
What do you mean
you don't know Momo?
Just look up Momo.
I don't need to look at Mya.
Okay.
Sorry.
I probably don't wanna look atMomo either, but I'm surprised
that you've gotten this far in.
Well, actually no, I'm not surprised.

(01:11:08):
I'm, I know why I've seen creepy passes'cause I spent too much time online.
But you haven't seen them.
You're so safe.
You're so blessed.
It's just like, it's like any fanfic.
If I wanted to watch horror, why wouldn'tI just, you know, watch The Exorcist
or, you know, well, yeah, but consumea really curated, fine piece of art.

(01:11:28):
Some people are not
people, some people do nothave the A 24 budget and they
wanna make something scary.
I think like there's a communalaccess, sorry, a communal aspect to
this where it's kind like, it's likean extension of like urban legends.
Well, you've on like
read it like no sleep.
Do you know?
I'm
aware of it.
I've never, oh yeah.
I read a few
and I was like, Ben, not
it's, yeah.

(01:11:48):
Uh, look, I'm not gonna yuck the yums ofpeople doing this horror stuff, but Yeah.
Well we, we, it's also crazy
that you are like, I'm a scaredy cat.
I'm not into any of this.
But then you're like.
Or you don't know the lawabout Jeff the killer.
It's like, no.
Uh, but, but the thing is, youcan safely, it's pretty safe
to read, read a Wikipedia page.
Nothing.
I'm, I'm, I'm interacting withthe spooky things in a controlled

(01:12:11):
environment, you know, but that's why Idon't like playing the, the Slenderman
game because I can't control him.
He just comes running atme and it's very scary.
Or like, I don't like playingreally any horror games.
Like we tried playing until dawn togetherand I didn't make it past like the first
hour, I don't think, only an hour and15 in, but then I had, like, you played

(01:12:32):
all of the last of us.
Some people say that's a horror game.
Yeah.
I think every time therewas like a combat sequence.
I handed you the controllerand hid behind it.
I
don't think so.
I think I screamed a lot though.
Yeah, that's like, um, what's the, thetherapy where you're exposed to things?
Exposure therapy?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
You're building your tolerance.
I'm like early PewDiePie.

(01:12:53):
Oh, you don't know.
No, I
don't know.
Okay.
Nevermind.
Anyway, um, so.
Any other thoughts on the analog orange?
I
just wanna say a top work orange inthe, the video we watched released
one week ago, uh, the passion fruitcharacter is there and I'm 90% sure
it's still I, Justine, it's still,
I think it is still I,Justine, I'm pretty confident

(01:13:14):
like,
yes, Steve, it's
cra like it's crazy.
Could
do.
She's now been voicing this characterlike for a decade, for 15 years of
sleigh and it's like, is this lucrative?
Is she just friends?
Like, does she, it's not much work.
Maybe.
Does she like the annoying art?
Maybe she does it
because she 'cause of the passion.

(01:13:34):
Oh yeah.
The passion, but it's the passionof the fruit, passion of the fruit.
Cool.
Okay.
Annoying orange.
Oh wow.
What an, what an episode.
Hey.
Um, how do you feel postthe annoying orange?
Annoyed?
Yeah.
I feel pretty much the same No,as I did prior to the episode,
I, I was very.

(01:13:55):
D uh, intrigued to see likehow everything progressed.
Mm.
Because I was kind of only aware thatI was like, oh, yeah, it was big.
And like I'm, you know, theyhad hop topic, merch and like,
all that kind of like that.
I was like, sure.
Like, yeah, that makes sense.
But then being like, oh, they're stillgoing, oh, oh, we've done two years of
like spooky orange with teeth and goo.

(01:14:17):
I'm like, that's kind of,that's kind of interesting.
Yeah.
I feel I can't crack this as both aYouTube outsider, but also as like
someone who, I'm trying to find thefandom for the current annoying Orange and
Well, clearly it's there.
They have that huge wiki.
Yeah,
I know.
And there's all these, like, peoplewatching these videos, but it's like

(01:14:40):
they're, it's like, who's the, who's what?
Like I just, I just don't get it.
Yeah.
I think, I mean, and it'sokay for us to not get it.
Like that's fine, but I know whatyou mean in terms of like a. It feels
like this was like a going on in thebackground and I was just like, wait.
Oh, ew, sorry.
You just opened the, the channel andshowed me all the spooky, um, like

(01:15:03):
thumbnails of the, the analog orangeand its teeth and the goo again.
I don't like it.
They're really
disturb.
Yeah.
Like 166,000 views on thisrecent one eight days ago.
Yeah.
And
the comments
members, all these commentsbeing like, the saga is over.
Everything in the kitchenis back to normal again.
OG Orange is back.

(01:15:24):
Yay.
Um, wow.
Oh, and like people with Yoshi aVI saying like for those curious,
this was the first time PassionKissed Orange on the YouTube series.
She kissed him twice on theTV series for Card Network.
But that wasn't Canon.
That person definitelycontributes to the Wiki.

(01:15:45):
Yeah, like a hundred percent.
Wow.
Wow.
They all keep talkingabout how they kissed.
So interesting.
It's giving children,
but also you're telling this personwho's referring to the Cartoon
Network series from now 11 years ago,can't numerically really be a child.

(01:16:07):
Right.
Unless they went back and watched it.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
No, I don't
know.
Look, I'm just happy that they're happy.
Yeah.
Like I'm happy and I'm happy forDane that she's had such wonderful
ongoing success and like longevity,
I can't hate on Danefinding a winning formula.

(01:16:28):
No, of course not.
And presumably, uh, creating a, likea lucrative business based on that.
Um, and all the interviewstuff we saw with Dane, uh.
She seems like a very nice person and
she seems lovely.
Uh, yeah.
I'm like, I, this is not a, um, asituation with, uh, other YouTubers where

(01:16:50):
we personally thought their content wasbad and they personally were unsavory.
Uh, so like, while I, I don'thave a positive, uh, impression.
This is more like Fred.
Yeah.
Where we, we, yeah, exactly.
We like Lucas.
Yes.
And, but we, we don't, Fred's not forus, but we respect and support Lucas.
Honestly, I think
Fred is quite a bit betterthan the annoying Orange.

(01:17:12):
Oh yeah.
We, the Fred, there are Fred videos,which I think are pretty interesting.
Like you think of the, the new Fred era.
I feel like you are kind of, I don'twanna say you are, uh, reconning your
opinions, but I do think like, as wego through this, this podcast and this,
you know, the episodes, I do think you.

(01:17:33):
Maybe look back with rose tintedglasses at some of the Yeah.
I'm
nostalgic for earlyYouTubers in rewind time.
You
did not, I don't think enjoy Fredat all when you did the episode.
I didn't.
No.
Okay.
Sorry.
I didn't enjoy watching Fred.
Uh, but comparatively to the AnnoyingOrange, if they'd done a saga where
they were retired, the annoying orangeto the same quality level that we got

(01:17:54):
with, um, the new Fred, uh, seriesthat Lucas did when he was like, okay,
this character has run its course.
Mm. Like this is over.
Mm. Like he ended Fred and then tried todo other stuff with the channel, whereas
like here, we really, obviously they'redoing the spooky stuff now, but it is,
I just dunno how there's more juice tosqueeze from this orange, so to speak.

(01:18:19):
Well,
there is clearly 'cause clearly news, but
yeah, I reckon we might have more horrorstuff or we might do some more genre noir.
Orange film, orange.
Murder.
Murder.
Mystery Orange, true Crime Orange.
Who knows?
I think that
The Orange probably needs a podcast.
Am I being real?

(01:18:40):
Well, that's the next frontier.
Yeah.
And we will have, we'llhave the orange on.
I just think.
Yeah.
It's just, and we keep saying this,but it's, well they did, they did,
sorry.
Mystery science theater stuff with theAnnoying Orange where they watched like
movie trailers and the characters wouldcomment including the Smosh movie.
Um, but so like, it, like there areformats where they can just be like, let's

(01:19:00):
just put these characters in this format.
I
would say one legacy thing,there doesn't seem to be a lot
of Spawn Con with the orange.
No, you are actually right.
Or
like brand partnerships.
Yeah.
Right.
That we've seen all these otherYouTubers take advantage of.
Yeah.
Like they sell merch for theorange, which obviously makes sense.
'cause it's, it's a, you know, it'sa cute, well it's something that

(01:19:23):
easily converts to a stuffed toy.
Yeah.
But I don't see like.
Carls Jr. Sprite.
I don't see these companies liningup to do deals with the orange or
the oranges in a Super Bowl ad. Andyou imagine the office it office.
Not that we've seen,you might've missed it,
but Yeah, no, you're right.
You're right.
I think we, we get the promotion throughthem having like actors or celebrities

(01:19:44):
on to, to promo their own stuff.
Yeah.
But I think that's kind of the, theextent, I think I saw something on
the Wiki where there were a couple of,like, they promoted like movies, like
through having like a character onwho's like a person from that movie.
Yeah.
But I think that's kind of it.
Yeah, you're right.
Cool.
No, no emotion.

(01:20:04):
They kind of fully create theirown empire and are seemingly
fully, um, able to subsist off it.
Um,
any final thoughts on the annoying orange?
No.
No.
Fair enough.
No, you, no, no.
Let's put that orange.
To bed.
Put 'em in the fridge.

(01:20:25):
Yeah.
Okay.
Um,
this week, what are you subscribing to?
Ooh.
I am going to be subscribingto another Simple Favor.
Wow.
The sequel to the movie.
A Simple Favor directed by Paul Fiig.
This one also directed by Paul Fiig,starring a Blake Lively and Anna Kendrick.
Uh, I don't wanna spoil anythingfor anyone, but if you are familiar

(01:20:48):
with the first movie, which was kindof like a, a bit of like a, like
a, it was like a take on Gone Girl.
But with like a, it was like, butwith a really big glass of wine.
Like, it's more of like a, a, a fun.
Spin on something like a moreserious genre, but it had like, I
think a good balance between it.
It is kind of match it,if I'm being honest.
Like I, I did rewatch the firstone recently in preparation

(01:21:10):
for my watch of the second.
Um, 'cause I was like, Idon't remember what happened.
And I realized why it's, 'cause whenI watched the first one again I was
like, Hey, so this plot is so crazy.
Um, but it's like a fun, a fun ride.
There's like a nice balance betweenlike the intrigue and the comedy.
The second one so crazy kind of throwsall of the seriousness out of the window.
I would say it is akin to watchinglike Madame Webb, it's that.

(01:21:34):
Crazy.
I wish, like immediately I was, afterwatching it, I was like, I wanna watch
this in a cinema with all of my friends.
And we all have likelittle slushy cocktails.
Like that would be theultimate way to experience.
Do think you think that much
more over the top than the first one?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
I was in the room for both of these.
Mm-hmm.
And I was looking back and forthand even from the first one

(01:21:57):
I was like, what is going on?
No, the
second one.
Okay.
The first one is a bitlike, whoa, what's going on?
'cause there is like some like crazytwists and turns, but it's all kind
of like, I, I think contained withinthe scope of like, of the setting.
Whereas in the second one, they're likejust doing some really crazy stuff.
Like it's, it's just we're going fromlike zero to a hundred, like instantly in

(01:22:21):
that movie, and then we go up to like 200.
Um, whereas in the first film it kindof all like it all reflecting back.
I'm like, oh yeah.
Like it makes, they kindof set up the, the tone.
For the movie, whereas this one justlike chucks that tone in a ditch
and is like, let's go to Italy.
Let's be on a private jet.
Let's have clips.
What did you, uh, rateit on the letterbox?

(01:22:42):
Oh, a two.
Okay.
Fair enough.
A two and a heart.
Two and a heart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not,
it's not good.
Okay.
But it was fun and I was like, I wish Iwas watching it with my little brother
because we love watching like Mme.Webb and stuff like that together.
And I was like, oh, shewould, I wish she was here.
Um, so
yeah, I have a lot of time forAnna Kendrick, but when I sat and

(01:23:03):
watched the opening of both to you, Iimmediately was like, I'm sorry, I can't
That's okay.
You're so brave.
Uh, yeah.
It's just, uh, it's
okay.
I'm truly God's strongest,uh, movie watching soldier.
'cause I, I have a lot moretolerance for, um, not good.
Yeah.
Media.
Yeah.
But I enjoy it.
But that's again, 'cause I have a brokensense of humor, which is why I clearly

(01:23:25):
laughed during the Fred Annoying Orange.
Uh, video so much that Ilike nearly started to cry.
So that's what I'msubscribing to this week.
I highly recommend if you enjoy a fun likepulpy, um, dumb movie, it's really dumb
and you should watch it with your friends.
What are you subscribing to this week?
This week I am subscribing to Butter Boy.

(01:23:47):
Wow.
The cookie chain that I believestarted in Manly here in Sydney.
Mm-hmm.
And has now recently opened a store, uh,in Broadway, so on our side of the harbor.
And we went on the opening day andI've had their cookies before, but

(01:24:08):
we, we got sort of a sample boxand enjoyed munching and crunching
on a bunch of Butter Boy cookies.
And I'm not really a huge baked good.
You're not guy.
No, but I think for me, I'm not someonewho's gonna be eating cookies all the
time, so when I want to have a cookie.
I don't, you know, begrudge spending,uh, you know, buying the premium option

(01:24:32):
and getting that good cookie, likeI just, their, their milk chocolate
chip cookie is just, is is yummy.
I really, it's too sweet for me.
No.
Too sweet.
Oh, okay.
Too sweet for
me.
But I like the, the chocolatey ones'cause they're a bit more bitter.
Yeah.
I enjoy them.
Mm. I mean, what I'm, you know, a cookie.
Do you have a favorite
flavor that you tried?
Yeah, probably the Milk Cho one.
Right.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
No
wonder.
No, no.

(01:24:53):
That's your opinion.
That's what you're subscribing to.
I'm pairing
it with like a, like a cupof filter coffee, so, oh.
The sweetness.
And I'm like, it's a cookie bro.
Like, it is gonna be sweet.
You said I'm sophisticated anda enjoy my, did I Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, all right, that concludesthis episode of Rewind Time.
There's some housekeeping.

(01:25:14):
We now have.
Uh, some active short form video accounts.
Sure do.
If you are watching on YouTube,you can see them right here.
We have shorts where we're doing littleclips from our episodes, but we also
have it on TikTok and Instagram as well.
Yeah, it is, uh, clips from the podcast,so if you're listening and have made it
this far into the episode, probably notthe same audience as uh, our shorts, but

(01:25:38):
of course you're welcome to watch them.
We also now have the videofor these episodes on Spotify.
So if you're a Spotify listener,you can now be a watcher as well.
Wow.
I know.
Watch, listen, and
learn.
Yeah.
And I think that is it.
Is there anything youwanted to say before we go?
Thanks for listening.

(01:25:59):
Really appreciate it.
Uh, so seeing some really nice commentson the podcast and oh, I wanna shout out.
We got a comment on Spotify.
We got like a review slash commenton Spotify where someone was like.
So glad I found this podcast and we'reso glad you found us, and thank you
so much for taking some time outtayour day to leave a nice message.
It's like so nice of you.

(01:26:20):
So really appreciate it.
Thank you for that lovely comment.
And yeah, that's it for this episode.
We will see you next week foranother episode of Rewind time.
Bye bye-bye.
Keep rewinding.
No.
What up?
My rewind is.

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