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August 27, 2025 52 mins

What do birds, highways, coffee, camping, and peanut butter & jelly have in common? In this unexpected and wide-ranging conversation, David and Wes unpack the viral TikTok moment that sparked a deeper dialogue about structural racism, public health, and the power of storytelling.

Together, they reflect on how these layered stories shape opportunity, health outcomes, and cultural participation across generations. Along the way, they discuss implicit bias, rural health, medical education, marketing, and the subtle power of association—what peanut butter and jelly can teach us about racism. 

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