Ep 19 - DaddyDayClub - Shit My Dad Taught Me

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It's go time bud. Cool shit my dad taught me.
Shit, my dad taught me Z, welcome to the studio.
Thanks for having us. Guys on buddy this.
Is the wicked? Yeah, it's our honor to host,
man. We've got so you and I connected
not too long ago online on Instagram.
Pretty sure I slid into the DMS too.
I think so. OK, I'll say that out loud.
And the idea was simple, man. I saw some of the stuff you were

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doing and I thought, that's a dude I want to know.
There you go. I want to know you guys too.
And you? Sometimes you can manifest that
shit, you know, just put it out there and it happens.
So it's so. You're telling people they're
just start sliding into people'sSO.
Many times. Fill it, Fill the teams.
It's. Your key to success?
I just, you know, spread the seeds and something's going to
grow. Listen, if I didn't reach out to
like majority of the people I do, I don't think I'd have like

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a brand business. So.
They got out of the balls to reach.
Yeah, yeah. I I don't know what the saying
is, but they say the mouth can'tbe fed if you don't ask for food
or something like that. Yeah, so, yeah.
And then yeah, for sure. And then just putting it out
there and doing it again and again.
And you got some cool brands that are putting it out there
too, man. So if it's OK with you, we got a

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tradition on the show where we like to introduce our guests
with a little Chachi PT. So this is Jamie and I just
phoning it in on our research, but we let chachi PT do it, so
I'll read it out loud. So Z is the creative force
behind Daddy Day Club, a fast growing digital platform and
community that flips the script on what it means to be a modern
dad. With a bold sense of humor,
authentic storytelling, and sharp creative instincts, Z has

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carved out a space that speaks to parents everywhere,
especially fathers who want to, who are tired of feeling like
background characters and the parenting narrative.
I love it. That's pretty good.
What an intro, OK. I'm going to tell my wife to
introduce me like this to all her friends.
Every time I walk. Out what would the wife say?
And then it goes on to say more than just a creator as he's a

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hands on dad, he's a digital community builder and a growing
voice in the movement towards intern, intentional and
emotionally present parenting. That's pretty dope.
And then I know on the side too that you've got a career too.
So why don't you start there? Let let you do that.
Tell me about what you do for a living.
Sure. Yeah, yeah.
I work for a non for not-for-profit called Support

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Ontario Youth. So basically I'm their data
analyst. We we're funded by the ministry,
meaning we have to provide KPIs and reports in order to get
funded. So I basically just work with
data. I work with, I don't know if
you've heard of power Automate. It is kind of like AI.
I've basically automated some ofmy day-to-day tasks.

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So when emails come in, it'll basically put things in Excel
for me, shoot out an e-mail to whoever needs to go to base like
on an Excel sheet. So I do a lot of, I'm trying to
automate a lot of my job, which I do.
So that's what I pretty much do full time.
Nice, and then you got a nightlife behind you too.
And I got a nightlife man being D Jing for probably, I want to

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say 20 years. In 2026, it'll be 20 years.
So that one was interesting, man.
Yeah. Hang hanging that up anytime
soon or are you going to? Keep you know what I did during
COVID? Like I went back to school to
get my degree. So basically my dad was like, I
will cover your tuition, but youcan't DJI need you to be full
time. I dropped out seven times out of

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college. So this was like I had to do it.
I wouldn't put it that way. I'd say you went to college 7
times. Yeah, exactly.
I like it. I like it.
That's what my mom would say. Yeah, like doctors go for seven
years, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So. You're well educated.
There you go. Exactly, man.
I've I've like went to like for one day and I'm like, this is
not for me. I think I did something like
stupid, like I've done it all. I did art and packaging, graphic

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design. Then I did something like ECE.
I'm like, oh, maybe there'll be like girls here.
And then they're like, oh, you got to change diapers and I'm
like mom and you don't get paid very well.
You don't get paid very well. So that was like one day I
didn't even go to class. I'm like, this is not for me.
Once they told me. So I went back to school, got a
degree at UFT for I think it washuman resources and industrial

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relations, which is kind of likeunions, HR and just what to
expect in the workplace and stuff like that.
So. Super exciting, mom.
I didn't like it, but it helped me actually break that, that
curse of not finishing school because I was surprised I did
it. So the thing was I couldn't DJ
so I didn't, which was not bad thing.

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And I think in the tail end of it, I I did start DJing without
my dad really knowing, but DJingwas fun, man.
I was in Hess village, Wasaga Beach, bananas.
I don't know if you guys saw thevideo, they like tore tore the
place down. Yeah, like just recently I've
actually got a friend that rightnow is up in Wasaga.
Beach. Oh, there you go.
Just told me that was gone. Dude that was the best, best
days of my life man. DJing there was so much fucking

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fun. The.
Strip was just insane. It was so good.
But yeah, my dream was to basically be like a big DJ.
I think like 10 years ago, I, I,you guys heard of Tomorrowland.
There was like a contest. I was literally number one.
But the whole the music industry, man, is just
political. I think they gave it to somebody
who's like part of a label and stuff.

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So at one point I'm like, this is not going to work.
But it always funded like my start-ups that I've done.
I had a website called my Club Advisor.
It was basically like TripAdvisor, but for nightclubs
all around the world. So did that You need money, man.
What I learned with these start-ups is it's hard when you
don't have money to kind of likefund the the thing so.
Takes money to make money. It's it's really crazy.

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So I did that didn't work out, but I spent a lot of my money
from DJing. But I that's the thing I don't
feel bad because I consider my DJ money like my play money,
play money. So it's till this day it funds
daddy day club now. So I can't get rid of it unless
I either make more money at my work.
I try not to take money from my normal job, that's like family

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money and then whatever I make with DJing will essentially fund
Daddy day Club for me. Yeah, that's great way to do it,
man. We talked to a lot of young guys
that are you know, they over leverage themselves.
They they look at debt as a solution and it's it's tricky
and going back to the DJ piece too tell so it's Kidman is the.
DJ Man, right? People can check that out on
YouTube, on Spotify. Man, that was a funny one.

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I was trying to find a name, like a producer name, and you
guys watch wrestling. I don't watch it anymore, but
like back in the day, I used to be a wrestling guy.
There was WCWA guy named Billy Kidman, very versatile, very
like athletic. And he spelled his last name
Kidman. And I'm like, you know what?

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I really like that. Let me change the A to it Y.
And that was Kidman. And then, yeah, man, I was
pretty lucky. Nobody, nobody wanted to hire me
to DJ. I'm like new.
So I'm like, let me rent a boat.I worked at a record label
called SVG Music back in the day.
So it was like an one of the biggest independent labels in
Canada and pretty much was one of the very few.

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So I worked there, start meetingpeople.
There was a guy, Tony Monaco from Z1O3 who would be there all
the time. And I'm like, listen, I want a
DJ. Nobody's hiring me.
I want to rent this boat, the Empress of Canada, and let me
hire you. And we did that and then we did
it for eight years and I think the first year that I did that,
he was doing the live to air. It was called way back

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Wednesdays. It was very one of the longest
running parties in Toronto, especially Wednesdays.
And he was doing the parties on the docks.
Yeah, it was crazy, man. They're like, listen, we call
you an audition, you're going tocome DJ.
And this for me, this was like adream.
I love the waybacks. I love that genre of music.
I'd listen to it as a kid and mybrother had a big influence of
like, music for me. And I auditioned and I got the

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gig and IDJD for like three years on the radio on
Wednesdays. And it was from there.
Everything just fell into place,got got booked non-stop.
I was like Wednesday, Friday, Saturdays, sometimes Wednesday,
Thursday, Friday, Saturday. So that was fun.
But I'll tell you a quick story about how I ended that fucking

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gig. And we were kids, man.
You know, you're 19 working at aclub, you're just doing stupid
shit. You have your friends doing
stupid shit. We would sneak bottles into the
club because we were too. We didn't have money to buy
booze, man. So we'd bring bottles that they
sold at the club. And we kept asking the bartender

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for like the the juice or whatever it's called.
And then she finally said, like,who's taking care of these guys?
What the fuck is going on? And then the owner came and
we're like live on the fucking radio.
He comes, goes into my fucking bag, gets the swine, and then
just starts pouring the alcohol on the fucking floor.
And at the end of the night theybasically said, they just gave

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me 20 bucks. They said we're deducting the
alcohol from you. You're a kid.
I'm have ego galore and I basically RIP up the fucking 20.
And basically I never went back.They fired me.
I never went back. And it was that.
And then a funny thing is like, and I'm not saying because it's
me, they fired the IDJ until 1. Then there was another guy who

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DJ after the radio, like after the the radio show they tossed
him. They basically did like a whole
rebrand and then they closed down like a couple months after
and like it was fucked because Iwas like, yeah, it was crazy,
man. So I still DJDJ Dirty Martini
not too far from you guys here, yeah.
Super close. What do you what do you play
there? What's I'm?
Open format, I'll play like all the hits, all the bangers, man.

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I like house music, but I'll do like a lot of urban, a lot of
mash ups. Where the girls go when they
want to pick up an old dude. No, not.
Anymore. It's a cougar bar.
Now it's the opposite. Yeah, yeah, it's the opposite,
man. It's a cougar bar.
But my apartment was there. Oh my God, I remember my
apartment. I used to.
I DJ Ed there once too. That was good times.
DJ is fun man. But when you have a kid, it's

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becoming more difficult waking like coming home at 4:00 and
then waking up at 6:30 because like your kid is.
Yeah, it's going to go 6. 30 It's brutal man.
And some days I'm like, I just don't want to fucking do this
anymore. If I was rich, I don't think I
would, to be fair. Yeah, it's crazy how many DJs
that you saw over the COVID town.
Like when you kind of give it upfor a bit that made the switch

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and started going, like, I followed DJ Eric Rhodes and a
bunch of guys in the States thatlike, started going into like,
heavy blending of like, you know, country music with rap and
like, doing that kind of shit. I love that stuff.
Just doing a whole bunch of mashups.
And now they're like living off it and fucking just crushing it.
And they were doing the live streaming too.
Yeah, it was pretty wild times during COVID, man.
Yeah, they were like, I don't want to be a club DJ anymore.

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So now they're just doing this mash up shit and it's like
blowing up their careers like crazy.
And they don't have to either. Like people are just making
monetizing off of obviously likesocial media and stuff.
I would rather do that. Yeah, people break your balls
when you're DJ. It sucks.
Yeah. And you, it's not like you're
getting paid like 1000 bucks either.
So you're putting up with a lot of shit for like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your You've produced your

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own music too? Yeah.
So how did that work, man? Fuck, you're taking me back here
randomly. Just go on YouTube.
Started seeing like tutorials, basically teaching you how to
like recreate your favorite songs.
And then like, I love this. I was working at the record
label. They were giving me a lot of
tips, introducing me to a lot ofpeople.

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Buddy of mine, Armando, you can check him out.
Really talented guy, Armando music.
He was a vocalist, songwriter. I was just like making shitty
cheesy beats and we just worked together and we put out a lot of
cool songs with practice and help with help with others, we
were able to like take my basically my track and make it

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like label ready. My tracks were never label
ready. They're probably like 80% done.
And then we need to get people to like master it and mix it.
But I had a have you heard of Armada music?
Yeah. So they're pretty big, like EDM
label. They signed my remix couple
years ago. So there's a DJDJ Antoine who

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met with Armando. He was pitching.
It's like me going to, let's just say wanting someone on my
podcast. You like kind of talk with them
a lot and you build that relationship.
And then they're like, yeah, OK,let's make a song together.
It's basically what happened. And he brought me in with them
and I ended up doing their remixand it got did better than the
original. So did that.

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And then we did like a lot of random bootlegs.
Did like a Drake, Take Care, Take care of Remix.
We call bootleg because it was never official, so never
anything big but. Drake remix with some Kendrick
Lamar, Yeah. Yeah, I can't imagine.
But yeah, my stuff. Lucky man.
I had myself on the radio. Didn't even show B1, O1 and
Barry. But I'm not really making music

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anymore. I'll do it for fun.
You can't. I can't do music DJ.
It's a tough money gig, man. Daddy day club, work my full
time. Try to be a dad, try to be like
a husband family. And it's not going to happen.
So I will like decompress makingmusic if I'm ever like bored.
And I live in one bedroom, guys.So it's not like I can make like
when I came into this podcast TV.

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I'm like, holy fuck, you can do so much stuff when you have
room, right? Yeah.
So yeah. So go back.
I got to you said dad a bunch. I want to learn about Dad.
Tell me about your dad. Oh my God my dad.
You guys would get fucking rocked.
My dad think of like authoritarian old school Middle
Eastern take shit from nobody kind of dad.

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The strictest dad you'd ever meet in your whole entire life.
Very supportive. He will financially he will give
you like the words and encouragement to like do what
you want to do. Make sure you're happy doing it.
If it doesn't work, you can always come and like come back
home or, or he's got me out of like a lot of Pickles, man.

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I've been in debt trying to do start-ups like many times and
he's got like pretty much cleared my bank account.
It cleared my debt for me to be able to do this stuff.
But it comes with like high expectations from your dad.
Like he, he's strict man. He'll fucking tell you his
thoughts even if you don't want to hear it.
And then they'll like discourageyou.
Basically. We were never allowed to go out

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past like 10:00. I'm lucky I'm the baby of the
family. I've a brother and sister curfew
at like 10:00. No ends ifs or buts.
You don't talk back to your parents.
We would never. Fucking like, I don't know, I
see a lot of how how people parent now and stuff.
If we tried that shit on our parents, my mom would put
fucking hot pepper in my mouth if we thought to talk back to

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her. So very loving family, no doubt,
but very strict. Yeah, it was wild.
And it wasn't like this new generation of dads that we are
where, you know, you're with your kid.
My dad was six months at a time travelling for business.
So it was pretty much my mom taking care of us.
And my brother had a big impact on my life, too.

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He was like my Big Brother dad, if that makes sense.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
What's the So what do you take away from that with Fast forward
to you being a? Oh man.
Forward What do you? I remind myself everyday I'm
like don't because it's ingrained in you now, like the
way your parents shaped you and talk to you and communicate with
you. I feel like it's tattooed in my

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DNA and in my brain and I have to stop myself from saying let
them make their mess. Let them.
Although my dad let me fuck up but they were always so
paranoid. My mom always paranoid like oh
watch out like you know that's dangerous or whatever.
But instead now I try to just belike concentrate.
I won't tell her be careful anymore.

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My daughter when, when she's like doing something dangerous,
I'll just be like concentrate because every time you say oh,
be careful, like that's when youfuck up or like when you're
driving in the passenger side, like the person's just like, oh,
wait, wait, there's a car. Like it'll fuck up your.
I swear a lot. I'm sorry.
It's OK. Like, is it going to be bleeped?
Is that no, no Chase. Yeah.
OK bro, it's cold. It's wide open.
You're good. Yeah.

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So it's hard man. It's hard being a parent.
It's hard trying. I saw something yesterday where
it's like you put up with your Co workers shit all fucking day
with patience and grace. The least you can do is do the
same for your kid. And it's hard because obviously
they're not logical and they're not thinking and they're not
developed. They're a.
Kid, although a lot of our Co workers aren't.

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Logical. There you go.
That's true. Like, yeah, no doubt.
I think that's the hardest part about being dead is being
patient. Is being patient man, I have
1000 things running in my head and sometimes I just wish I was
like an average Joe dad who didn't want to do anything No
daddy day club, no DJ ING just go home, go to work, come home,

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be with your kid and like play video games and just call it a
day and no stress. But instead you're just
wondering like you know who am Igoing to get on my my show?
Am I selling enough merch? You know, you're trying to just
make it, trying to grind and I'mtired of like, I don't want to
make it anymore. I just want to if it happens, it
happens. And I think that's when things
happen, when you just let go andjust let the universe do do its

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thing. Yeah, I think for me, I, I, I
saw that with you and specifically with Daddy Day
Club, because I had it pop up a few different ways with a few
different. We've got some mutual friends
and obviously follow some mutualpeople too.
And I saw it and I saw it and I'm like, hey, that's that's a
sign to reach out, I think. So in your own words, tell me
about Daddy Day Club. What's the brand stand for?

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Where's it come? From oh man, it was random.
It was so, so random. I think I was, I reached out to
my buddy Nick Regina. I was asking for like dad advice
and stuff. And he's like, Oh no, man,
you'll be good. Don't worry about it.
And I'm like, I didn't like welcome to the Daddy Day club.
Just just randomly. And right when that happened, I
went on Instagram, I went on GoDaddy, shot us GoDaddy

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sponsored me hook it up and justbought all the handles.
I didn't know what I wanted it to be yet, but I knew that name
was something we just finally got trademarked in Canada and I
just got like semi approved for for the United States.
So super pumped because I took basically since 2023.
So I was worried, I guess being a dad or a new dad with the DJ

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ING and with all these start-upsthat I've done, I'm like, can I
still do this when I'm a parent?Like when in my dad, will I
still be able to like be creative?
And then I said to myself, why not?
Like I don't want to put in my head that I can't do anything
once you have a kid, 'cause my, my dad was a type.
He'd be like, I don't spend money on myself so you guys can
fucking have clothes. Like it was dramatic, but that's

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what he'd always tell us. Like, you know, everything I do
is I do it for you guys. And I said to myself, he's, I
think 60 or 70 now. Like even being 1670, just
'cause you're 1670 doesn't mean you have to stop fucking living.
I think once he retired is when he changed as a dad.
Because you have nothing really to live for.
You're not, you don't have, you're not doing anything

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everyday. So for me, I'm like, I need a
reminder that I can still be a great parent while achieving and
going after my dreams. And you can do that while being
a great parent like it was. That was pretty much my thing.
So I use that as a motivation and reminder that let me keep

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going, let me be creative because that's like your outlet,
especially when you have kids, you need that.
What, what was the goal of DaddyDay Club day one when you were
like, hey, like this is going tobe my idea.
I'm going to roll with this. So it's funny you say that
because right away I was like, oh, I can see golf tournaments,
I can see this, I can see that. And I'm pretty introverted,
especially like I work and so I don't.

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Everybody's like you're a DJ. Yeah, clubs.
You're introverted, man. At clubs, I'm not a nice guy to
be honest, 'cause they're so fucking rude and they break your
fucking balls. And you're sober, the whole.
Time, I'm sober the whole fucking time and they just, they
request a song that's playing basically and it's like, stop
breaking my balls. Listen to whatever you want to
listen to before you come to theclub, 'cause I'm most likely

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going to play your song and I'm not going to like change my
whole life and everybody's livesto play what you want to play.
Where the fuck was I going with this?
Day one day. Yeah, yeah.
When you met Jamie? Yeah, pretty much.
So, so I started off with a shirt.
Basically, I just, I got my, I got somebody to make my logo and

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happened to be a very cool guy who used to make my club Flyers,
Mike Kingsborough. And he worked at Google at one
point, like high level Google, like creative director, makes
brands, makes logos very talented.
Like people would die to have this guy do your work.
And I, and I was wishing he was going to do my logo.
But it's funny, it all turned out he's like, I don't have

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somebody. I have this guy.
His name is Zubair. And he, he created the logo and
I'm like, that's something special.
We put it on a T-shirt. Sean Desmond was the very first
person to support us. I still didn't know what it was
going to be. I'm like, we're going to make
apparel, basically. But then I found out making
apparel is fucking. Pennies.
No, it's it's you can't run AI didn't want to get into the

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fashion industry, man. I don't want to hold thousand
pieces of stock. And I didn't want to do print on
demand either to get that out ofthe way.
I'm like, I can't make a living off this.
I can't just do daddy day club based on apparel.
We, we don't get many sales. If I'm being very honest,
especially even back then you, you didn't, I got like one in a

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blue moon like once a month. Our first year in sales,
basically we did 1500 bucks to give you an idea.
The second year we did like 9000bucks.
Now we're like 6 months in, I'm at like 7 or 8000.
I'm like, this is I'm not breaking my balls for a fucking
$2.00 profit margin with shirts and especially since we're doing
low quantity, there's no margins.
We don't make money. Like 10 bucks if I'm lucky.

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You spend the time shipping it. If you consider shipping and you
offer free shipping, I'm not making anything.
It's just branding. It's just branding my my goal
was to trademark the IP and my initial goal from the beginning
was I want to sell this to Drake.
That is being my thing. I put in the universe.
He's got over his very own clothing line.
He's a dad. He's like a modern dad.

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And I just felt that is what I wanted to do, try to build it so
I could sell it to a clothing line, even H&M or someone like
that, that that's essentially mygoal.
I know you guys are more community based and more
community oriented like, and a lot of these other ones are.
I don't think I wanted to get into that.
And that we did have a family skate.

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I don't, I don't know. I don't think that's my thing.
I want to just be creative. And I think because I don't want
to break coming from like the clubbing industry.
I'm tired of promoting. I'm tired of making or asking
people to come to your events. I don't want to do that anymore
because it's hard. We just had a family skate.
I rented Ford Performance Centerwhere the Leafs practice, the

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whole fucking rink, dude. And like, we got maybe like 10
people. So I'm just tired or I don't
want to reach out. People don't understand how
hard. It is to run, man.
I'm over it, man. So then the podcast started.
I don't know how I I'm just like, this would be cool.
It would be. It shifted my whole mind said
I'm like, I want to talk to dadswho will say stuff and we talk

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about things that we think of sowe know we're not alone in our
thoughts because all the time I'm like, is it normal to feel
this way in this way, being likeI, I said this in the very
beginning of being dead. I'm like, fuck, did I like, did
I make a mistake? Is this like I was fucking
scared And then start talking tomy buddies and I'm like, this is
normal. It's OK.

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Like it's normal to have these feelings.
And having the podcast was a good way of sorry, like getting
other people's opinion on fatherhood and stuff.
So that's how we started. And then we were just lucky to
have cool guests, man. Like off the bat we had Jay
Jackson from he was a Toronto Blue Jay, but Minnesota Twins,
come on. And that kind of inspired me to

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kind of get bigger people in hopes of I guess making it go
not viral, but when you have bigger guests statistics.
Gives you exposure for sure. Yeah, and then we just start
getting random people who wantedto be like Andrew Funk.
We got Mocha from Kiss 92.5. I just had Hogan Harris from the
Athletics. We had about in Francis.

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And I'm like, OK, I got to keep going.
But it's also very tiring doing podcasts.
You guys know man, this is a lotof work.
We got to go set up prep scheduling is the worst I.
Cancel so many times. And shuffle around.
Yeah, I'm lucky. I've had too many cancellations.
But scheduling is just a fucking, you need an AI person
doing it for you 'cause it's toohard, especially between like

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your other stuff that you guys do.
So the podcast thing is doing well.
I don't want to even say doing well.
It's it's cool. It's OK.
No, I'd say it's doing well. Bro.
I like your content. I don't think you're, I don't
think the, you know, it's, it's like good music.
You don't put it out there to, to monetize it.
You put it out there because it's your art.
Exactly I. Think and that's why it's cool
that you fell into that where it's like this wasn't your goal

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to go out there and make money doing the podcast out of it.
It was like, fuck, it just feelslike the right thing to be doing
right now. I think I realized you can't
solely have a clothing line unless that's what you want to
be a clothing line. I didn't want to just be a
clothing line because how much content am I going to make with
the shirts? That means I need a lot of
different styles. I don't have money to keep

(25:14):
buying random shit. So that was the way.
And even podcasting it costs money.
It's not free. Like we paid a studio around 240
bucks for the hour. They'll edit it and everything,
but you're still paying so nothing is free.
We got Miles. Miles is the best volunteer
ever. Like he gets.
Volunteer every year. Alright, can we recruit him too?

(25:36):
Fantastic. You know a friend or.
A friend, yeah, best volunteer is driving around in a Ferrari.
But. And like, so if let's say I had
a podcast suit in my house and Idon't know how I would even
manage it because you'd have to like have the board beside you
and stuff. It would be doable.
It wouldn't cost you money. I wouldn't feel so bad.
But when you're paying money into things and you don't see
results, that's the mindset. You don't see results fast.

(25:58):
You start doubting yourself likebut I guess that the key is to
consistency for sure. Yeah, yeah.
And there's other ways too, man.Like, so to touch on a couple
things you said, like just getting the boys together,
getting that, you know, those those words of affirmation and
those words of, you know, it is normal.
You're not whatever. There's so many dudes that we
know that don't have that tribe,that don't have that guy they

(26:20):
can call who's also a dad or hasbeen a dad.
Like think about the guys in thefriends group where it's like
they're the first one to have kids.
Like what where's that come from?
Right. And that's kind of the space we
started to fill. Kosov and I threw some other
stuff early on. Started to be like, wow, like
you got this generation of men right now that want to wear the

(26:41):
word Dad has a badge. Like it's a it's a badge of
honor. It's like, you know, I'm a dad.
And like, you see it walking up and down the street here.
It's like girl dad. Can I jump on this?
Go man, That is what I didn't OKWhen I came up with Daddy Day
Club, well, it just came itself,but I didn't want it to be an
obvious thing because what is that?
What is Daddy Day Club? What the fuck is that?

(27:02):
I didn't want to make apparel that said, like you said, girl,
dad or dad or hey, I'm a dad. I wanted something discreet,
subtle. Oh, what's daddy day club?
It doesn't even make sense. And I like it because like you
see a lot of these clubs, Marquee night, day club, all
these day clubs in Vegas. And that's when I was DJing.
I used to do a lot of day parties and I really liked the

(27:25):
day clubs. So I that's why I really love
daddy day club. But I didn't want to have a
company where it was like, and no offense to them and they're
doing wonderful, like Dad gang, I didn't want anything that's
just in your face. I said I'm a dad.
It's, it's that catch 22, cause like even with Burlington dads,
right? Like our original logo from 12
years ago or whatever was, was alogo that said Burlington dads

(27:46):
on it, right? It was this, yeah.
I saw it, yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
Then we switched it to this like6 years ago and we went like
three straight years of this. What does that?
Stand for. So it's B&D, right?
So Burlington. I like.
It so it was Burlington Dads Strong, but nobody knew what it
meant unless you were BurlingtonDads.
So we'd be walking in the mall 'cause we probably sold, I don't
know, in the in the three years we did that, we maybe sold like
20 grand worth of hoodies. Good for fucking you guys.

(28:08):
Because we got we got a group oflike back then it would have
been like 3-4 thousand members, right?
So like everybody buys a hoodie every couple of years.
How? The hell did you guys get that
many members? We're up to 6600 right now, 60.
600 sorry what what's what's a member consists of you pay
you're. Just part of the club, part of
the group. Yeah.
You join the Facebook group and there's 6600 members.
It's a private group. What?
Where the fuck is my invite? How do I get part of this fuck

(28:28):
you like? Now he's working.
Working. Working.
In brilliant. So can I tell you, I, I I think
we're moving to Burlington. Yeah.
Yeah. We're actually looking at a few
houses. We put an offer, didn't go
through, but my daughter's gonnago to school in Oakville.
Let's go. So we're gonna be Milton or
Burlington. I'd say Burlington all day long.
Yeah, I've lived in all three ofthem.
I work in Oakville a ton too, but Burlington all day long. 1st

(28:50):
house I bought was Milton, OK first house I ever rented was in
Oakville and now I live in Burlington.
All right, it's no, no disrespect to those other
cities, great cities, but man, Burlington's awesome.
Go back to this like. And that's what stone's throw to
get your daughter to school. It's so close, Yeah.
Yeah, that's what was cool aboutthis though, 'cause then you
walk through the mall and you see a guy wearing a BD or just
the BD hat that didn't say Burlington Dad conversations.

(29:12):
They were like, hey, man. Like, yeah.
Oh, that's cool. Yeah, 'cause.
It was like that undercover thing, but like it's hard to
brand that and grow your brand when you're trying to kind of be
got it, not the brand, right. So that we've gone back to this,
like, now that's cool. Now we're boobing that 'cause
now we're like, hey, like to do what we want to do on a bigger
scale. Totally.
We've got to brand it. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm really, that's really cool.

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And you know, people always giveme that advice.
You know, I, I created a subreddit just the name Daddy
Day Club. But I don't have that energy to
create that community. I want it pretty much.
Daddy Day Club can mean something different to you than
it means to you. So it's more like let it be for
you and you guys take it and do what you want with it.
But for me to create a community, I don't have the

(29:55):
capacity. Dude, to do it, you got a taste
of it with your skating event? Oh yeah, we right now, we run as
a group. I'm saying we, I'm talking about
a bunch of guys, four major events.
And then almost every month we're either a part of an event
or a smaller event. I couldn't.
It's insane, but it's because there's 6600 men, right?
And that maybe. We legitimately ran three of our
own events and we are part of two others, so that's fucking.

(30:18):
How long did that take to get that many members?
So it started 11 years ago and it was a bit of a slow crawl at
first. It was a Facebook group.
It was run by some great guys. It was just about the, you know,
neighborly stuff like I need a tool or hey, who's our plumber
or like, you know, that kind of thing.
And it, it lived in Facebook. And then it started to grow.

(30:39):
And then we decided to do this event called Founding Fathers,
which was probably the first tipping point where we all kind
of said, OK, this could be a real thing.
Let's like put some energy behind it.
So we had an event. It was like 500 members back
back then, Yeah. So.
Pretty good. Yeah.
And, and we did. And we actually, the branding
side was pretty fun. We had like this camo hat that

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everybody got and it was, it wasjust, it was a subtle logo.
And then we did these gold cards.
Cool. And the gold cards were
basically just saying like, hey,I'm a I'm a part of the club.
But yeah, you know, and it wasn't even that it had monetary
value or there wasn't like a, you know, a big system behind.
We only did 100, so it was like it was 40 bucks to to get the
card in the hat. That's cool.
And only the first hundred were like the founding fathers of the

(31:22):
group. I dig it and back in the day
that shit was really cool. Like I still like now it's like
7 years later since those cards guys take a picture and they'll
post it on their thing. They'll be like I'm one of the
founding fathers because there's6600 guys and they'll be like
I'm one of the first. Or the.
Ones that get me is the originalhat will show up at like we had
won at our golf tournament the other year and it ended up going
for it was over 1000 bucks, yeah.

(31:43):
Sorry, they auctioned it. Yeah, get out.
I used one. Cool.
I. Used one, I still have two brand
new ones that I I keep them for like every couple years we'll
pull one out for an auction and put it in like a big display
case. You guys are wild.
It's just as wicked. There's a guy at my gym at
Mavadi that he, he legitimately wears it every day that he's
working out. And you could tell he's probably
washed that hat like fuck 100 times because it's so worn.

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And but the hat's like 7-8 yearsold.
He wears it in the body every day at the gym.
So I told him one day I'm like, hey man, like I've got a couple
extra ones of those you he's worn the shit out of it and like
promoted us. Obviously.
I'm like, just pop by the office.
I'm going to give you a brand new one.
I gave him 1 and I saw him last week.
He was. Wearing the original, he won't
wear the new one. He's like the original.
I get it, man. It's just, you know, yeah, when

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you wear it in, it's just part of you, man.
But. You know, it's part of like.
We're still waiting for the 1st tattoo to come out.
You know what? It's funny.
I was thinking of that the otherday.
I'm like, whatever. I wouldn't.
I'm done with tattoos. I don't.
I'm over it. But how funny would it be if I
got a daddy take a tattoo? But I wouldn't live with Bram.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's.
Go totally. Yeah, it's, but it's the power
of that brand, right? Like this one and and kind of

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what we're trying to do here too, man, with the whole shit my
dad taught me thing is like, so go off that Burlington dad
story. Yeah.
And now you got all these reallysmart men, you know, you got
guys that are great dads, that are doctors, dentists, business
guys. And we have access to those
guys. And all of them take such pride
in being a dad. They're all willing to mentor or
to volunteer or to whatever, Take some coordination, right?

(33:12):
Like how do you get that guy on that platform to whatever.
And that's what this is like we're so now we're just trying
to like scale it up a bit. Cuz locally we've had good
success with, you know, being dads and helping each other.
And now we're trying to do it more.
So it's, it's the same thing you're trying to do, man.
And I think the more voices there are, the more platforms
there are, the better. Cuz I think that it's hard to be

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a dad. Totally.
I think if you don't have a tribe, it's really hard.
So what's the goal like? What do you guys like?
Just to do more, be help other guys be better dads, let dads
know that like when they're going through shit, they've got
a support system. There's other guys that have
gone through all that shit. Very cool.
A big part of what we do is justletting other organizations like

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everybody thinks that like when they start getting into
nonprofits and not for profits and charities that like it's all
competition and who can raise more.
We're way more about helping allof those other charities and
organizations that like, hey, when you guys are running
something like call us, we'll support your event.
We'll bring out a team, we'll dowhatever we can.
We don't want to run 40 events here.
We would rather run our four or five and go be a part of other

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people's 2030 events to show that the community, you know,
can be successful together and do do stuff better.
And we get a ton of companies and local businesses that step
up every time to be a part of that.
And, you know, we support those that support us.
So like, the companies that are supporting us are the ones that
all the Burlington dads run to when they need a tire, they need
new glasses, they need clothing.I love it, man.

(34:37):
I love what you guys are doing. This is.
Yeah, man. This is I love it because it
takes someone special to do it. I I can't like I said, I don't
have the emotional capacity to do that.
And I and people always say, yeah, you got to build
community. I'm trying to build a community
in a different way through now the podcasting and and putting
information that way, but forcing events are just yeah, I

(34:59):
love it. But put it out there, man.
There's there's totally. Thousands of ways to show up.
Thousands. And go back to what you said
about, you know, podcast and your numbers and your whatever.
We're in the same boat, dude. We, we put this out and on the
first couple episodes we're onlygetting, you know, we'd be lucky
to get a couple 100 streams on the podcast.
And luckily social media has been great.
Like you get a lot of eyeballs on your reels and shorts and

(35:20):
stuff, but it takes time. But on one of the early
episodes, a story I like to tellis we had a gentleman on Nelson
from men's capillary wave, whichis a local community for mental
health. He does men's group.
He's got a wonderful, he calls them their pit crew, so
psychiatrists and and different counselors and modalities.

(35:40):
But the his big thing is he's a charity.
So any man can walk in there andget services for free.
You can come and join a group, sit down group of guys.
They're curated. You know, Nelson sits in on most
of them and he did. He's such a wonderful guy.
He he's good at listening and good at, you know, getting
people together. So he came on on episode

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whatever it is, 3 or 4 real early on.
And we heard a story where he comes on the episode, a guy out
in the universe watches it, don't even know who he is,
didn't know that those services existed, ends up showing up
within a few days after that in crisis like he was.
Knocked on my door, like on the Burlington dad's door, like I

(36:24):
need help. I'm like, like, what is it that
you need help with? And he's like, I'm just, I'm
going through some stuff and I heard that you guys are the
place to go. I'm like, I'm glad you came.
I got we're not the ones I can help you.
Like we're not capillary wave, but I'll introduce you to to
Nelson. And thankfully, like Nelson was
in his office right around the corner and he heard the guy and
it was like this, that one thingis every reason why we're doing

(36:45):
this, like it, it helped. It gave that guy a spot on the
middle of a Wednesday, probably the afternoon.
And he was just like I I need help.
That's. Wild.
It was crazy. Yeah, so.
Think about that in your world, dude, what you're putting out.
What about the dad who's, you know, up at 6:30 AM and stressed
and doesn't even know how tomorrow's going to show up and
there you go. That's why it is that easy.

(37:06):
Sometimes it is just about. You do.
Got to come see a cool successful event that like June
21st if you've got nothing goingon and you've got your kiddo.
Is that Friday? It's a Saturday, it's noon to
four. We do a free family BBQ for
anybody, so anybody is allowed to come.
Foods, free ice cream trucks, free bouncy castle, like it's a
crazy event. Oh, that's wicked.

(37:27):
It's at it's at Kelso Park, but you should come set up a table
with your daddy day club stuff and bring bring your daughter,
bring the wife. We'll probably have over 1000
people that show up, but it's totally free to the entire
community. So we get we get a ton of people
that show up and it's just it's a blast.
Last year pissed rain the entiretime.
We had 500 people show up that as well.

(37:47):
And everybody, they just enjoy it.
They're like, fuck it. Like the bouncy castle is
soaking wet. Kids are just soaked, running
out their socks, just fucking covered in water.
So how do you guys get funded? I know you're.
It's all community, community, community companies.
Yeah, because we, we give them as much exposure as we can and
they give back just to be able to give back to the community

(38:08):
that's supporting them, right. So like, you know, if they know
that the, that they're getting support from everybody else in
the community, they're 100% all in on giving back to, to that.
And it's because none of us get paid, right?
So like we're doing this and they know all that money is just
going to like, fund that event. So like we got a food company
that's Maple Leafoods is donating all the burgers, all
the halal meat, all the hot dogs.

(38:29):
And then yeah. And then one of the restaurants
Q BS is donating like all the hot dog and hamburger buns and
all the condiments. And so like, it's literally
costing us nothing. But 1000 people are going to
show up and just have them crazy.
It's it's basically like a fair.Yeah.
Do you, do you have to give themcharity receipt?
Is that the exchange or doesn't work?
Like that. No.
So we give them a, a sponsorshipreceipt.
Yeah, because we're not-for-profit.

(38:51):
We're not, we're not a charity. So we give them a sponsorship
receipt. So it's still a tax write off
for for them for sure, because like for a for a company a a
charitable tax donation or sponsorship like marketing
expense, it's the same write offfor a company.
So what? How did what?
What is that sponsorship write off?
What does that mean? You have to have a business.
Basically just an expense, so. I would have an expense.

(39:11):
Yeah, like we. Said, OK, you're, you're founder
and owner of Daddy Day Club. If you want to come out and be
at an event for 500 bucks, we'regoing to give you a table.
You're on our newsletter, you'reon our social, you got a post
after the event. Whatever the package is, I'll
give you an invoice for 500 bucks and if you want it, you'll
pay it. And that's the end of the got
it. So for you, it's a marketing
expense? Understood.
Yeah. But but for us, it's like that's

(39:33):
our that's how we keep the lights on.
That is sick. Yeah, yeah, I.
Don't know how you guys do it. Lots of people, lots of time.
But, but like anything, I mean, you're gonna get a small handful
of people that do the lion's share of the stuff.
And you're still gonna get hate,trust me.
Like we we still got people thatbitch about stuff online and
complain. That's the word.
There's always jealousy and there's always haters.
Yeah, I don't know why I. Used to take that to like, you

(39:55):
know, every time that happens, we just try and turn around.
Hey, like maybe hate us. Maybe hey, what we're doing,
maybe you don't trust us. Come on out to the event.
Like come check it out. You want free tickets?
We'll, we'll let you come for free.
Just come check it out. Be a part of it.
Keyboard warriors. And that's the big thing.
Just get people out of their heads.
Yeah, 'cause that person's probably going through some
shit, 100. Percent.
You know what? Like.
I get it, we get it. So come out, come, come, come

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give us a hug, come give us a high 5 at the.
Event needs a hug it comes to. Bring it in.
Yeah, yeah. That's how it goes, man.
So you as a dad, I want to talk about you specifically the way
that you're, you're parenting these days, man.
What's what's your, your priority?
It's to be present. It's, it's and, and where I'm
going with this. And the big question is, is your

(40:38):
kids are on this podcast in 20 years?
What are they going to say aboutthat?
That's crazy. I like that question.
Oh man, I don't know. I think every day I try to to
remind myself because parenting is hard, man.
Like you don't know if you're doing the right thing and you

(40:59):
won't know until a certain stage.
And sometimes I'm not saying it's too late, but you could
have already caused, I guess, damage to to your kid.
I guess my priority is to be present, which I am, but you can
always say can I be more present?
I try not to have my phone on me.

(41:20):
Obviously there's times where you're on your phone because
you're doing 20 million things. You know, your parents are
getting older relying on you asking you to do stuff for them.
You know you're doing 8000 otherthings.
So if you asked me today what I could do better, I would like to
not use my phone with her and not even have it present.
Patience, I think is a big thingfor me.

(41:42):
It's really hard, man. They say they want that and then
you give them that and then theyhave a whole fucking full outfit
and you're just like not sleeping.
You're working two other jobs, you live in a one bedroom with
your wife, a dog and a kid, and you're going to kill each other.
We did that for like pretty muchsince 2021 because we didn't

(42:05):
know what we're going to do and all that stuff.
So now when we move, we're hoping that will alleviate all
of the chaos in the house. But I think, I think the
scariest part for me is when it's too much, too much in terms
of like helicoptering your kids like I don't.
My parents helicopter us man. It was bad.

(42:27):
But we came out really good. We dude, I, I didn't drink until
I was 19. We didn't do drugs.
Like I I think I smoked like 1/2puff of like weed once and
didn't like it. But then I got into it once I
basically moved out. I was.
So we never fucked around with my parents, and we never really
got in too much trouble. Yeah, like, I screwed up the car

(42:48):
here and there, blew the transmission and stuff like
that. But we didn't throw parties in
their house. And we knew there was a line of
respect in the house. But I don't know if that would
have been the case if they let us do anything we wanted
nonchalant, you know what I mean?
So I just don't know. You know, we try to teach our

(43:09):
daughter. She's 4, so how much she's going
to learn is different within. Like while she gets older,
she'll have to learn new things.But I don't know man.
I don't think there is a right path either.
So I think, I think dads like and new dads like you that are
young, you, you overthink it toomuch because like I look at like
I've got three boys, the youngest.

(43:30):
Is. 6612 and 14 and like they'reall so different and every one
of them, I don't want to say we've parented less as, as we've
had them, but we've become less helicopter parents as we've had
them. And you see the difference in
all of them that it's like no matter how we would have
parented them, they were still all going to turn out so
different anyways. And now for sure there are wrong

(43:53):
ways to parent kids. Like I'm not saying that there's
not, but I do think that new dads overthink it like crazy
and, and they're too hard on themselves because you know,
there are the, the right things to prioritize time, patience,
like give your kids as much timeas you can.
Be as patient as you can with them.
But like with the helicopter stuff, like sometimes you just
gotta let your fucking kids growup and go through shit.
Yeah, they're playing on the edge of the couch and you know,

(44:15):
Oh my God, you're gonna break your arm.
Like how many fucking kids are playing on the edge of the couch
that break their arm every day? Like totally fucking almost
never happens. I'm like fucking on my back and
like tripping over the couch andstuff.
Yeah, like 38, my kids running down the sidewalk and my wife
and I'll be like, stop running, you're gonna trip and scrape
your knee. It's like, well, he's only
allowed to run on the grass. Like fuck, give your head a
shit. See, that's what makes me like

(44:35):
paranoid. Like they run out and like their
cars and all that shit. It's just like, I don't know,
man. My dad threw us the wolves.
So my parents, my dad was like the opposite of you.
He was like, if you're going to drink, you and your friends are
drinking at my house when we were like 13.
Oh I'm jealous man. My don't be jealous man.
My my dad. There was no alcohol in the
house man once sneaked in alcohol and this is like now 19.

(44:58):
Dude if you want to see like someone's disappointed face,
that was like the life changing moment.
It was fucked. I was scared, I was fucked.
And it wasn't even me drinking. It was my buddy.
I don't, I don't drink beer. I fucking hate beer.
But it was the scariest thing ever, man.
So I, I like it. I like the fact that, like, I'd
rather have you at home rather than the streets.

(45:18):
Yeah, the, the good side of it was like he, I was open with him
about everything. The other side of it was like,
he wasn't a very present dad fora lot of the shit that was
meaningful for being that my dadwas like super stubborn, but he
was also like, if you're going to do shit, do it at home and
tell me about it, you know what I mean?
So, like, that part was cool, but he wasn't.
He never came to a baseball game.
He never came. Like, he was never home or

(45:40):
around for that kind of shit, right?
Yeah, but when it came to drinking, drugs, lies,
bullshitting about school, like if you're not going to fucking
go to school, tell me you're notgoing to school.
And that's because he was gone four or five days a week
anyways. Right.
Yeah, so like I think like, don't be so hard on yourself,
man, doing a great job and tell other new dads the same shit.
Like don't overthink it, man. Like enjoy it.
Just be present and enjoy it and.

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Then I find out like what I'm doing is fucked.
I'm like, OK, don't do that, don't do that.
Take it back a bit. Yeah.
I I think we're going to stop atone.
We're not going to have more kids.
Yeah. You know, I know myself when you
know yourself, like Seth Rogen's, like I know myself.
I don't want any kids if you know, you know, And I think one
for me is enough. And she's everything I ever

(46:24):
wanted anyway. So it's like, let's just take
because you don't know what's going to, you don't know what
you're going to get. And I know that's a stupid way
to live life where I'm not goingto have kids because, you know,
who knows how they're going to turn out or if they're going to
have, you know, disability or whatever and make your life.
No, because you're also thinkingit's not selfish, because you're
also thinking about the child that you have.
You don't want to take away fromthem either.

(46:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's a fair choice.
And I want, yeah, I want to giveher everything.
Not everything, but I want to set her up for success.
And if you have more than one kid, I just, you need the money
or the resources or the support or some people, man, you can
give them everything and they don't want it anyways.
That's what my dad says. My dad's like, don't be so
focused on what Sophia, she might be a fucking hipster and

(47:07):
just living her life, you know, backpacking and doesn't need all
the things that you think she needs.
So like, move that shit and she'll be fine.
Don't worry about it, 'cause I'mlike, oh, like inheritance, I
want to make sure she's got money and all that.
He's like, don't fucking worry about that stuff.
It's not a big deal. Yeah, back to Chris's question,
what in 20 years, what do you want her to look back and say,

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hey, this is who my dad was? I want her to say that I was
present and we had fun. Good.
I think that's the coolest thing.
We have a blast. We do like bedtime, We like I do
fucking wrestling moves on her and shit like Stone Cold
Stunners. We like Pedigrees.
I love it. That's awesome.
Yeah, it's fun. So I think presents the most
important because that's the most valuable in my opinion.

(47:51):
You can give them finances only help help.
They don't actually solve any. And it can be very like you can
fuck up and you'd have to keep doing it like that.
You'd have to keep paying to getthem out of whatever, like their
problems. So that's not really manageable
is what I would say. But yeah, I hope she would say

(48:12):
I'm a cool dad. I think she would.
I know she. I know she would.
She tells me. And she's like, cool, Thanks.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we got Father's Day
tomorrow. Any plans?
Probably my brothers went on vacation, my parents are on
vacation, my sister's going to Montreal, so just probably go to
Joey's. Yeah, All I want is peace and a

(48:34):
burger. Sick.
I Yeah, So I did this. We're.
Simple guys, man, Yeah. Yeah, I don't want much, guys
don't want much. Yeah, Mother's Day, when women
want it all. Yeah, we're.
Like I don't need it. Just give us some family time.
Let's go chill out. Let's go to park.
I did this thing with Ninja Kitchen, so tomorrow I got to do
this whole shebang they sent me.This is pretty cool, I saw.

(48:55):
This on your Instagram. Yeah, I'll say this is my kind
of second sponsor. The first we got 47 Brand Canada
to sponsor our podcast, which was cool.
So that was my first like sponsorship, but this is more
bigger deal. They basically paid me and gave
me product to make that video that you saw.
But then I have to post these stories tomorrow and get the

(49:15):
contest ready. So I'm kind of dreading it.
It's just, that's what I mean, man.
I don't have. I'm not.
That's only one of me, man. I can't do everything.
So I got to post a story tomorrow saying, hey, this
contest details and show them doing shit.
I don't know. They don't know what they want
and I don't know what they want.But that's pretty much.
I got to bang it out tomorrow, yeah.
So. We'll get behind you any way we

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can, man. Appreciate it.
I have had this talk. I I fucking love brands that
want to be a part of this dads movement.
Yeah, spend a little money in good faith.
So if we can do anything, it wasninja.
You said ninja like the appliance.
Yeah, they sent me a cooler and they sent me this like pizza
oven. And they're like, we want you to
the, the, the crazy part is these companies think, first of

(49:56):
all, they think you live in a house.
I I had to shoot in my brother'sbackyard.
They think you have a family because you don't know if
someone's divorced. And it's like, fuck, I don't
have a house. They just assume you're the
textbook. Yeah, it's like the American.
Yeah, American. What do they say?
Live in the American Dream. The American Dream.

(50:18):
So yeah, it was my first thing, but I think I did pretty well on
it. I think it was not bad that a
boy. If you need a backyard to shoot
it and you shoot it in my backyard.
For sure, 100% either. Or his or mine.
Yeah, let's do. It I got a pool, hot tub, BBQ,
whatever, Yeah. OK.
He's got 1/2 court in his backyard.
Come on, I did OK. They picked the wrong dad for
this ninja collaboration too. Oh, is it really?

(50:40):
That's sick. You got to show me pictures.
After that, yeah, it's on actually it's one of the pin
stories on my on my personal Instagram, OK, It's one of the
top 3 pin ones my whole backyard.
Oh cool. Yeah, that's dope.
We're a little bit older than you.
That's see man, like I'm not going.
To gotta get dressed. The Burlington.
Yeah, that's it. That's the thing man, my really
goal is like home ownership. I don't want to the selfish to

(51:01):
say, oh, I would create a daddy day club because I want to be
able to create a life for my family because your regular job
is not going to give you, you'regoing to make what you make and
that's it. Like daddy day club, I wanted to
be for me life changing where I can build my life and have
everything I've ever wanted. And again, I'm saying in a more
selfish way, outside of everything we spoke about, like

(51:23):
I want to fucking buy a house. Like I have a condo that we rent
out, but that shit is not going to get you a house.
So that changes it. But my dad will say also, your
daughter doesn't need a house. She take her to the park.
It's you building all these social constructs that you think
you need that you actually don'tneed because he's like, you're
going to be OK when your house is leaking and you need a new

(51:45):
roof and you need this and you need that.
So I don't know, man, I I grew up really spoiled and got
everything. We were well behaved.
We'd we're not like shit the service, but our parents gave us
everything. We lived in a wonderful
neighborhood, beautiful house, had a pool, had everything, got
our had cars when we fucking gotour license.

(52:06):
We weren't those like snobby kids or anything, but take that
and now I'm living in a fucking one bedroom.
It will fuck you up, man. And then you see your brother,
beautiful house, your sister beautiful house.
It's like there's a eight-year difference just for.
But it's giving me that push, that drive.
It's giving me that drive and it's the only thing I can rely

(52:27):
on. That's why I always wanted to
create start-ups because that was my Ave. to try to get out
of. Remember, I had no university
degree. I had no college degree.
It was basically high school andworking these shitty fucking
retail service jobs and enough was enough.
And I'm like, I, I need to bet on myself that one of these

(52:48):
projects first it was DJing hoping to do that.
My club advisor, I did that. I started a lot.
All failed by the way. A learning experience.
People will say it's a learning experience built you to become
the person you are today, which is semi true but it is very
mentally draining when you are not.

(53:09):
I don't want to say OK with yourself but not content I guess
with your life. So that's what I'm trying to do
is be more content with what I have and what I have is what I
have. Can be worse, you can be.
Don't be insecure, don't compareyourself to others.
You can have no car, you can be living in another fucking
country with war, you can be have a disability that stops you
from let's just say I can be blind and not see.
And let me tell you bro, like every picture of that perfect

(53:31):
American dream, yeah, there's a whole lot of fucking shits holes
going on behind those scenes, 100%.
Yeah, so that's kind of my reminder too, man, that like
just be you could have had a kidthat needed to go to the fucking
sick kids every day and you justspend your days doing that.
Be humble with what you have. Dude, and we like, I mean, we in
my network, I could, I could show you five guys that were

(53:53):
multi, multi millionaires, if not billionaires and they're
fucking miserable. Yeah.
Like there is no correlation between material goods and
happiness. I think what happens is you got
to get you got to get your baseline, but your baseline
might be a place to live. Yeah, You know, part of a
community. Yeah.
Maybe it has a park and maybe you can get outside and then
just some sense of purpose. I think anything above that is

(54:17):
starting to get into luxury or starting to get into like, you
know. One of the stories.
We tell ourselves like they needor I need or we have to, but
also I think like some of that'sgood though, too, man, if you're
wired like that and you want to build an empire, then go fucking
get it. But do it because you're like I
choose to. It's not because I see that guy
has it. I.
Choose to. It's all reminders man.

(54:39):
Sometimes on my wall I'll just like put posting notes
everywhere because you need those.
Like one of one of I have at work.
It says no rush, no rush. Yeah.
First of all, I just started in 2023.
Like, what do you expect? And you sometimes forget to
smell the roses and acknowledge all of the things you've
accomplished. Like, I'm like, fuck, I would

(54:59):
have never thought I'd have Major League Baseball players on
my podcast. Like what?
I'm not, I'm not a journalist whatsoever.
I don't even like. Barely catch a ball.
Yeah, I don't do that shit, man.I actually love baseball.
So it's, it's all reminders, man.
It's good to, you know, be proudof yourself.
Just stop and say, hey, it's OK to say, you know, I'm proud of

(55:20):
yourself. Yeah, I'll say that to anybody
who's thinking about trying something too, man.
Like, you know, I have these moments and and I'm sure you're
the same Jamie. We're like just even rolling up
to one of these is like, OK, I get to meet a new dude, Great.
Dude. I get to turn my phone off for
two hours. Totally.
And I just get to like, listen, like what a fucking blessing
that. Is man.
And that's the thing I tell my friends all the time because

(55:43):
nobody calls anybody and talks to them for an hour.
And it's like, this is actually basically my therapy is what I
call it. And the people who come on the
podcast, it's their therapy because they're just letting
out, I would say 60% of what they actually feel.
A lot of our pod, a lot of our conversations is post podcast is
where they let out everything. You hear the real because you

(56:03):
can. There's so much you're going to
say and like, leak your dirty laundry on podcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see what my wife thinks
about that. And that's the thing too, man.
Not everybody. I think that's a challenge of
podcast. And especially if you're, I
don't know, man, you're getting scared to get cancelled.
You say something that's not appropriate.

(56:25):
You say something about your partner that you know it just
it's. And you know, there's like, it's
a good ego check too, man. I had one just the other day
when we were sitting down with Ron Foxcroft, who is the founder
of the Fox 40 whistle. He's an NBA referee.
He still sits courtside. Now he refs the referee, yeah.
Well, that's. One seat behind Drake.

(56:46):
My dad, okay. So he comes on the podcast the
other day and he's sitting in front of me and you think he's
like late 70s, eighties. I think he said he was like 72.
Yeah, it was. No.
What did he say? He's 79?
Because he's like, I'm going to retire in 21 years.
Right. Yeah, at 100, he's going to
retire. So the guy's almost 80, and he's
sitting in front of me and I know who he is.
And he's like, he's so well respected and he's such a great

(57:08):
guy. And he looks me dead in the eye.
And he goes I'm. I don't remember exactly how he
said it, but I'm not. I've never been the smartest
guy, but I will outwork you. I love it.
And the way he said it. Look through me.
I'm like, fuck you. Oh, shit.
Yeah. Miles made a real for it and
he's like, it's like him lookingat Chris.
He goes Chris, I'll outwork you and he goes Jamie, I'll work
hard better than you. The.
Way he said it, I'm. Giving us a fuck, yeah.

(57:30):
I'm just nodding cuz I'm like nono you will so.
But that to me is fire. That's like I love.
Right. He's like, I'll work my kids.
I will work everybody at the office.
I love it. Yeah, it's.
Sometimes you get that energy from a dad too.
He's like, no, I show up like this and this and this and I'm
like, well fuck, I better try that too, right?
Like. It makes sense, yeah.
Do you guys know Steven Shapiro or Shapiro?

(57:51):
He does all these like TikTok where he gives like 500 bucks to
people. He does like pranks and he gives
them money. Very popular on YouTube more on
the stateside. We had like a like a zoom call
and he's like, what are you doing different?
That dad gang is and I'm like, fuck, man, dad gang has three
fucking people and three brains.But I'm like, I'm one, but like

(58:12):
I'm mighty man. I send like probably 10 on
average, I'd say 10 emails a day.
And I'm messaging people all thefucking time and that and I and
I love doing it. And I think it's going back to
the whole, if you don't ask, you're never going to get a yes
ever. So that, that's what drives me,

(58:33):
just the, the presentation. And can I tell you half the time
I message people, I'm getting a response, even if it's like, no
thanks. So I don't know.
It's motivating for me to, yeah.But it is cool even getting a
message back from them being like, hey, man, sorry.
Like I'm not, I'm not down. I don't have the time.
Yeah, yeah. It's like, hey fuck that guy,
message me back. That's back.

(58:54):
I love it. So I want to say like, my work
ethic is 10 out of 10. If I wish I had three of me, it
would be great. But yeah.
Yeah. And I think too, when you're
doing the, the you know, format like podcast, the more genuine
you can be, the authenticity youbring to actually give a shit

(59:15):
about the person you're talking to and really listen and get
ready and whatever. That's what's going to make
yours as successful as it is. Like I watch yours and you're
you're totally into the guest and totally into the
conversation. And and that's what makes good
content is that authenticity piece, right?
Same with what you're doing withthe brand too.
Just fucking you know who you are.
Yeah, exactly. I don't know.

(59:35):
We'll see man. I'm excited to see what the
future is like. We had a lot of semi Co
opportunities coming up. I was this fucking close to
doing something really wild. Reached out to Nick Carter from
the Backstreet Boys. He like has been supporting us
and I'm like, I will. That's why I asked you guys
about the whole you guys flying out to see the Trailer Park
Boys. And I said like, are you guys
paying for it? I asked if I could go to LA and

(59:59):
do a podcast with Nick Carter and they basically said yes, I
had to pay. I have to pay for my flight and
I have to pay dude. It's going to be like a $3000
trip. Because they're doing the
Backstreet Boys concert tour in LA.
No, in Vegas, in the sphere. It wasn't the right time, but
that is my drive. Like doing cool stuff.

(01:00:21):
Like that would be the best marketing money you could spend.
And I, and it's funny and this is a tip for people never
what's, what's the wording I'm looking for?
Always go for what you want and don't settle for less.
Because they came back to me andthey said, listen, he can't do
it. He's he's just getting rocked.
How about we do a Zoom call And I said no, I'm not really
interested. I don't want to do a Zoom call,

(01:00:42):
man. They're not intimate.
You don't meet them. It's like fucking quality of
shit's lagging. It's brutal.
We won't do them either. We've had a couple people like,
hey, let's just do it online. It's like that's not us either.
And I and I like put my foot down.
I'm like, no, it's OK. And I told my wife and I'm like,
I swear to you, I have a feelingthey're going to e-mail me back.
And they fucking did. And they said, listen, we're,
we're still trying to make this work, so let's do it.

(01:01:04):
So it's a waiting game, but that's like.
I hope good for you yeah, that'dbe a great guest.
Yeah yeah. That's why we put the time and
energy into this place cuz I'm just like, you know, it's well,
you know we're right downtown. It's a beautiful house.
It's a beautiful studio cuz I think it's like you're never
gonna have the depth over a zoom.
Yeah, it's. Just not, no, not at.
All and and selfishly, like I wanna meet somebody.
I wanna know what they're about.Yeah, like.

(01:01:26):
Relationships can't do. That's how you'll do it face to
face. Going back to what we were gonna
talk about. So this is what I learned doing
podcasts and this is where my dad and my brother's brain come
in. And normally you don't want to
listen to this like hard criticism, but basically, and
they did this with everything inmy life.
They always, I don't want to saymake it made it challenging, but

(01:01:47):
they wanted me do things the right way.
Like even me trade marking my stuff was a very big deal.
I did it myself for the Canadianone and I had to hire attorney
for the US one. But they were always like, don't
buy shit and don't start anything until you protect your
IP basically. But specifically what I was
going to tell you guys is contracts.
Like for podcasts, you, you needa contract dude.

(01:02:09):
And I'll tell you why this is what happened.
Well, first of all, what if theysay I want to take, OK, I'll
start from the beginning. This one girl we shot and she
goes, I can't have it. I can't have it posted anymore.
My work, all this bullshit and I'm like, I'm out fucking 240
bucks for the podcast and my my brother is a type to be like,

(01:02:32):
stop fucking saying that you're not out 240 you're out 2:40 and
you're out your fucking time andyou don't value your fucking
time and that's a fucking problem.
So you're out the podcast, your time and are they going to pay
for it? And because I, I didn't have a
contract, what am I going to tell the person you, you and I
don't want to be that guy to be like I'm posting it anyways.

(01:02:53):
I I'm very respectful and I understand, but at the same time
I'm not protecting myself. So that opened up my eyes.
I did create a contract, but again, can you give a fucking
contract to Bowden Francis and say sign this basically saying
if you cancel, you're paying me 1000 bucks.
Good fucking luck. Because if he emails me and says
take it down, please, you're going to take.
It down and parents and like my brother and like they don't

(01:03:16):
understand that kind of culture where you can't.
I'm going to like if I go see Nick Carter getting ask him for
1000 bucks if they refused. It doesn't work like that.
So this is a challenging challenge I'm running into where
I want to kind of have somebody booking my podcast.
So I'm not the face of the person cussing the because it

(01:03:37):
pissed the fuck out of me when they didn't want me to post it
like and I was too quick to respond.
I'm very nice guy. I'm very like, chill.
I said no problem, don't worry about it.
But I will use that as an example never to do it again.
And I've used the contract for ahandful of people, but it's not
fucking realistic. But going back to this thing,

(01:03:57):
what if? So I do give them the episode to
review and omit anything they want changed for sure.
So we wait for their approval. But after that, my thing is once
it's on YouTube, it's on YouTube.
Sorry, but if you have no contract, what's a dilly like?
How do you guys manage with no contracts?
Same thing. Like we did have somebody that

(01:04:17):
wanted some stuff edited and taken out.
We just did it no problem. That's.
No problem, but having somebody flat out saying I don't want?
Yeah, that's tough, man. Even if we had a contract with
them, we'd still pull it down for him because most people that
you're bringing on are way bigger and way more powerful
than we are, so we don't wanna piss them.
Off but how long? And I agree, but how long can
you afford that? Well, you hope it doesn't

(01:04:38):
happen, yeah. Yes.
Usually, I mean, the reality of it is is shit changes and you
just kind of have to roll with it.
But I think you made the right call, man.
I think in the grand scheme of things, for sure that's a in the
moment of loss, but also you're defining who you are and what
you stand for. Right.
And that's what I told my brother.
I said every business has a budget for loss and this is what

(01:04:58):
I would consider it. My brother's pretty stubborn and
my dad too very argumentative and they want and I'm.
I need time. They want black and white.
I need time to get my resources to get my argument settled.
I was pretty fast in this one because I said what about you?
You're he does a realtor. He's a realtor.
He's a pharmacist and does a lotof other things, but he's a
realtor. I said there's people who you'll

(01:05:19):
go waste your time with and theywon't buy a fucking anything
with. You said yeah, but you planted
the seed. Maybe they will in the future
and all this stuff. But anyways, I don't know man I.
Think that's like in any business, man.
Exactly. You're doing consulting.
How many, how many meetings do you take before you land?
I get it. You're doing, you know,
construction. What do you, how many projects
do you quote before you get it right?
Yeah. So some of it is that.

(01:05:40):
But I think I think you did the right thing, man.
Yeah. You just got to respect people's
wishes. And it's funny, she came back
and said I'm cool with it. People get very nervous,
especially with work man, me andmy work is pretty good.
They're and it's funny like the CEO she follows me on Instagram.
She's a fan of what we do and stuff.
But like I got an IO semi watch what I fucking say and.

(01:06:02):
Yeah, there is that balance. You know, with work, it's very
difficult. We had Austin Poole.
He was in Billy Madison. He was a today junior kid.
Yeah, Yeah. And he was quite nervous.
We talked about bullying at school.
He's, he's a vice principal, talked about bullying and stuff
like that. And we just decided let's scrap
everything. We talked like no work stuff,
let's remove it. And I'm never, I'm very, I

(01:06:24):
rarely probe any questions with my guests.
I'll let them cuz I don't know if they're divorced.
Yeah, I don't want to like bringup things maybe their parents
died and stuff like that. So I usually let them be on the
passenger side and I will sorry the driver's side and I'll just
roll with punches. Yeah, we got a special segment
called Dad Jokes. Yeah, this.
Guy bought by Wolf Blass, one ofour one of our sponsors.

(01:06:46):
What is it? Take a shout out to Wolf Blass.
Wolf Blass. Awesome.
What kind of wine is this? That's the SAP sound, Blanc.
Yeah, we have that. And we have the Cabernet as
well, too. It's funny, I I had my first
glass of wine in Cuba and peopleare like, oh, you have to go to
fucking Cuba to have your first class.
I never drank wine. It was, like, very recent.
Yeah. But shout outs Wolf Blass, Yeah?

(01:07:07):
Big shout out, they were our ourfirst legit sponsor.
Give us the give us the goods. On your.
Let's see. Got to give them a great.
Try. OK, I don't know how great this
is going to be, but we're going to try it.
All right? So why did the DJ break up with
the turntable giver? All right, because it kept
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(01:07:30):
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Bro, anything else you want to talk about?

(01:07:51):
Anything else you want to plug? Man, we're so grateful to.
Have I love, I love doing this, man.
This is my first podcast. Like being a guest.
Yeah, that's so crazy. Yeah, it's cool being on the
other side. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Yeah, it's a.
It's a fun, fun media, fun type of content, right?
Yeah. Where can where can everybody

(01:08:11):
find you? Where's the best place to?
Totally die to day club on Instagram, basically die to day
club on everything. I will tell you what we're
doing. We're going to do something so,
so cool and I'm really excited for this.
And again, it's like all comes down to I'm not there yet
customer wise to keep doing these cool stuff, but
trademarked and we're going to do something called Poppy Day

(01:08:32):
club. So I'm and I'll tell you the
theme later, but basically I want to there's a lot of Spanish
and Latin baseball players. So we're going to do like Poppy
Day club. I just felt like it was a cool
like sister company of daddy dayclub.
Still going to be under the sameumbrella.
And then we're going to do a sweet drop for 2026 Chinese
Lunar New Year. You're the horse.

(01:08:54):
Wait until you see these mock ups, man.
It is we turn Daddy Day club into Chinese characters and it's
basically says Baba Club, which is daddy in in Chinese.
I don't know which dialect of ofChinese, but I work with these
guys in Vancouver. They're called in house
creations. They do stuff for the NHL,
Vancouver Canucks, they've done stuff for Oilers, They've done

(01:09:17):
stuff I don't know for Oilers, they've done stuff for Boston
Celtics. They're a creative agency.
So now they're responsible, responsible for my whole new
collection. And I love their work, man.
I'll show you guys this, yeah. It's.
So fucking sick. We want to pretty much we focus
on brand packaging. We want to put out like a red

(01:09:38):
box, like inspired by like the Chinese culture in the red
envelope and stuff and do a job for Lunar New Year.
So I reached out to WME Agency. I do.
I stopped doing it, but we were very big on influence for
marketing last year. It didn't really work for us.
I would never do it again if I'mbeing very honest.
But WME Agency is a very big agency.
They do like Mark Wahlberg, theydo WME like basketball, all big

(01:10:02):
guys, like all the biggest basketball stars.
So we pretty much supplied a lotof stuff for them for Father's
Day. And I showed the mock ups to
like basically the director and I want Jeremy Lin to be the face
of that drop. He's a dad and he's Chinese, so.
And he played for the Raptors. And he played for the Raptors.

(01:10:24):
So I'm I'm relying on these big companies to believe in me, to
be able to skyrocket. I need these guys.
To get behind you. To get.
I need somebody to get behind meto make this thing work.
Let's make it happen. Man, yeah, I'm really excited,
man. It's all.
Yeah, we'll see. Right on, man.
Well, we appreciate you coming on here.

(01:10:44):
I loved it, man. It's.
Been great. I got to ask you guys a question
because I usually end the podcast with like 2 questions,
but I ask my guests. I want to ask you guys if you
guys can have anyone perform at your wedding, dead or alive, who
would it be? You go.
So Tim McGraw and Faith Hill were our wedding song.
And I'm a huge country guy and Iwant Tim McGraw and Faith Hill
to to sing for sure. All right.

(01:11:04):
Yeah. Oh.
Man, that's a tough. My wife would say the weekend.
Oh cool. Yeah, it's.
And then she'd leave me for him for sure.
I'm trying to think of an answerthat keeps the peace cuz my
answer and hers would be like totally different.
So like, you know, our, our wedding song was a David Gray

(01:11:25):
song. Cool.
If you know him, kind of he's a guy over in Europe, kind of EDM
layered in with folk kind of music.
He's he's, he's. I have to if it's EDM I would
have. To but yeah, it's like it's
like, yeah, it's like folk musicwith kind of an EDM beat, but
yeah, maybe him. I mean, just to keep it
traditional. We my wife would probably say

(01:11:47):
Dave Matthews Band, I think, or probably a current country
artist, I would say, but I don'tknow man.
I like a lot of great DJs too. Like I know a guy named DJ Bangs
who's over in, he's in Germany. I.
Thought this guy was going to say DJ Kidman.
I was like, right on. Yeah, what's up?
The answer? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
DJ Kidman. Bangs, yeah.

(01:12:09):
No, he he would be. I mean cuz he's got big shout
out to him. He's if you see him on
Instagram, he's all about those big Nexus like.
He he does. Really cool live sets.
So he'll go on and he'll live stream for 30 minutes and he's
got his deck and he just does itseamlessly.
Oh, it's cool. It's like super talented.
Jumping on that, what I want to do and again I don't have the

(01:12:31):
capacity but I'm very close to doing it.
Daddy day party I want to throw like a DJ event.
Oh, we could help with that. Let's do that in Burlington.
But here's the key man, this is my problem.
I my brand is focused on dads. Like I want to, I love my kids.
I say kids just easier. I love my kid, but I want to
break this is more for like parents.

(01:12:53):
Yeah, parents night out or parents day out, leave your kids
with somebody. And it's just for us.
So I would love to do it and I already got like the handle.
But Daddy day party. I was trying to get like a
lineup of dad DJs and just like dad oriented like lineup and
stuff like that. So that would be fucking sick.
I think it'd be cool. I just don't have the capacity
to invite people, man. Because with the whole boat

(01:13:15):
cruises that I've done, promoting is hard and it's a lot
of work, as you guys know. And then you don't know the
outcome and you're like always 100 people or 50 people show up.
It becomes like you just like fundraising.
I stopped doing it. We were donating a lot of our
proceeds to like different charities.
We did like a Mount Sinai and stuff.
But if you only raise 100 bucks,then you feel like it's not

(01:13:40):
enough. And I'm like, fuck this.
I donate on my own time, on my own dollar, and I don't want to
fundraise. So it's very, I don't know,
mentally challenging. We got to call out the
background noise too. Can you hear it through the
headphones? I bet.
You they're going to hear it so if.
It sounds like there's a marching band going by.
Race because it is because there's a marching band.

(01:14:02):
Fucking closeout music. It's just been running for a
while. Miles is like, all right guys,
shut this shit down. And I got to ask you one more
question. Is that a tattoo ring?
Yeah. Very cool.
Yeah, I'm not. I don't like to wear.
Anything I don't in our family, none of us wear rings.
Yeah, I like it, you guys. Got matching hearts, yeah.
That's yeah, I just, it just waseasier just to.

(01:14:23):
Yeah. What are you guys up to for the
rest of the day? It's gonna be so we got Sound of
Music festival going downtown Burlington right now, so I'll
probably walk around that and see it, go get my kiddos, hit
the gym and that's about it, man.
Yeah. You off to kiddo?
Soccer game right now? Oh wow.
Yeah, I know I asked you guys, but what are the chances I can
get a donut? Is it?
Will it be very hard? Should I just not do it?
The. Lineup will be insane you.
Can you can send them to Duck Donuts?

(01:14:44):
Yeah, the other the other key. Points Duck is quick.
Monster will be a zoo right now because that's like right off of
Lakeshore. How is it far we?
Can duck over. No, I'll.
I'll run you over. Let's go see what the line looks
like. I'll show you where it is.
Boys, I love this man. Thank you guys so much, man.
Thanks so much. We got to talk offline too.
Let's do some more shit. Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah. Shout outs, Miles.
Miles. Thanks buddy Take.
Care.

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