August 13, 2025 • 52 mins
Rick Campanelli is one of Canada’s most recognizable and loved media personalities—a broadcasting icon whose career began when he won MuchMusic’s “MuchTemp” contest in 1994, earning the nickname “Rick the Temp” before becoming “The Franchise” on Much. Over 12 years, he became a fixture on Canadian entertainment television with roles on ET Canada and Deal or No Deal Canada. Since then, he’s transitioned into radio and live TV reporting with CHFI and Breakfast Television Toronto, while remaining deeply rooted in philanthropy and community. Off-screen, Rick is equally devoted to family. A proud father of three, he has openly shared how taking paternal leave early in fatherhood changed his life, cementing his belief in hands-on parenting
Topics Discussed in This Episode
– Rick’s journey from MuchMusic to ET Canada
– The importance of staying authentic in media
– Lessons from decades in television and radio
– How the industry has evolved and where it is heading
– Most memorable celebrity encounters and interviews
– Balancing public life with personal values
This episode was sponsored by Matthew Stevenson Insurance. Website: https://matthew-stevenson.ca/#work
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Shoot him Adm. We're going to tag him on this
episode. Tell him Chris and Jamie sent
you. Thanks, Matt.
Shit. My dad love.
Me, we'll be live. I don't know.
We're live now. We're.
Live well, not live, live, live,live.
Like whatever. Yeah, I hear all the terms and.
Sorry, the pro knows the real words.
Rick Campanelli, yes man, welcome.
Chris, Jamie, thanks guys for having me.
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We're on earth. We've been watching you guys for
a while. You do great work and you have
some very cool people sitting inthis chair over here.
It's an honor to be here in thischair today.
Well, you're, you're one of those cool people, man.
I so I'll I'll start by saying Irelentlessly slid into your DMS.
For a long time. Kids listening at home.
If you know somebody you want tomeet, go make it.
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You're not the only one. Well, let's have a look.
Best looking, Best looking, bestlooking.
All right, we'll take it. Committed.
That's it. Yeah.
Committed, man, I got that. Persistent.
Yeah. So, Rick, we have a tradition to
start the show with a little chachi PT Yeah, it's our way of
phoning it in. Introduce.
I mean, you don't need an introduction, but I'll do it
anyways just so that those who are maybe, you know, new to your
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career will go or maybe learn something about how vast it is.
So chachi BT intro. Rick Campanelli is one of
Canada's most recognizable and loved media personalities,
right? A broadcasting icon whose career
began when he won Much Musics Much Temp contest in 1994,
therefore earning the nickname Rick the Temp.
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But he actually went on to become Rick the Franchise.
Over 12 years, he became a fixture on Canadian
entertainment television with roles on ET Canada, Deal or No
Deal Canada. Is that all right?
I don't remember the deal or No Deal thing you're rocking with
how? You're right, minimally.
I'll explain once we get into. Oh, I can explain now give me.
A taste go. Man, I did a promo for how we
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show up here in Canada because he brought the show up to Canada
for a little while and it was airing on Global where ET Canada
used to there when I was there was.
How he doing it? And how he was doing it.
And I did like a little promo for it.
I never got to hang out with anyone from the show but I guess
doing this promo. It made.
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Part of the show. Giving you credit.
Like I could have done more but.And then you did do more, so it
says. Since then, he's transitioned
into Radio Live. He reported.
They told me I had a face for radio after my TV career ended.
We were told Podcast. And according to right now, not
a face for this, Yeah. That's it.
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And then CHFI Breakfast Television Toronto, while
remaining deeply rooted in philanthropy and community.
Oh yeah, always. That's it, man.
It's day one, even before TV andradio.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't wait to hear more about
that. And then I have to say this part
because I'll tell you, there wasa bunch of reasons why I wanted
to meet you. And again, thank you.
But this one is awesome. And I don't think a lot of
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people know this, but Rick is equally devoted to his family.
A proud father of three, he has openly shared how taking
paternal leave early and fatherhood changed his life,
cementing his belief in hands onparenting.
Hands on, I want to be there. I want to be part of every
minute that my wife is going with these guys.
The your spouse goes through theprocess when you're having a
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kid, you're just there for support.
But I wanted to be there every second of every day when my
first wife was going through it with my eldest son Noah, and
when my wife Angie was going through it with, with Jack and
Harrison. It's actually, it's cool the way
it worked because when I had my first son 20 years ago, I was at
much music and, and, and I didn't think I was able to take
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a lot of time off to be and I probably didn't.
I never really looked into it asseriously as I did.
Or scared to take it off. Or scared to.
Take it off not knowing what would happen, you know, and
you're on, you're on TV, you're on much music, you know, V JS
can't have kids. They they're, they're kids
themselves. You got to be the coolest single
guy. Right, right.
But, but, but Master T had kids and he inspired me.
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No, my older siblings inspired me as well.
And my parents. But when Jack came along, my
middle child, I told my wife, I'm going to be here with you
through this whole process. I'm going to try to take as much
time off from ET Canada as I as I can.
And they allowed me. And then when Harris and my
third child was born, I, I went the Max I, I took as much time
because that was the priority. And, and it still is my family.
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I just wanted to be there, You know, my work does my work and
my jobs. They, they, they don't really
define me. It's, it's, it's, it's the
father that I am and the spouse to my, to my wife and, and you
know, I've got siblings as well.It's it's family.
It's family that that finds me. So where'd that come from?
I think my parents, I think my parents and my my grandparents,
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my Nono and Nona from Italy, whoI only got to see a few times
because they never did come overto Canada to visit.
We would always go over there tosee them, but they, they were my
grandparents. We couldn't really communicate
because they spoke Italian and Ididn't speak Italian, but we
were all, we, we were when we were together.
It was special. So that was in Italy, but, but I
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had grandparents in Canada as well that grew up with us in
Hamilton. We were always there.
So it's, that's where it started.
And of course your, your parentsteach you right from wrong and
they morals and values. And my parents did that to
myself and my older three siblings.
So that's where it started and Ialways wanted to be the best dad
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I could and best husband I could.
I guess it starts with being thebest husband.
First one failed, you know, but I, I, I got a second crack at it
and I'm trying to make up for learning experience, learning
experiences because, you know, Igot married the first time.
I was a lot younger. I was at much music.
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I, I, I don't really think I gave it enough time to breathe.
I I should have just I met my first wife six months into my
job in in 1996. So your hair was on fire.
Hair was on fire. There's so much going on around
me. I don't think and I'm not I, I
don't regret anything, but I just don't don't think I was
prepared for that, that institution of marriage at the
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time. And but we were together for 12
years, 6 dating, 6 married and we have a beautiful son, Noah,
who's 20 now. And everything happens for a
reason in life. And then I met my second wife at
ET Canada and had two more kids.But it's always a learning
experience, like you said. Yeah, with, with me, I think it
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is with everyone in life throughout life.
It's crazy how there's a lot that people just don't know,
right? Like, like they watch TV, they
watch your Facebook, your Instagram, but there's oh.
Gosh, there's so much going on behind the scenes.
Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah.
And you know, you try to post a lot, you know, you want to be
transparent with people in your community, but there's a ton of
a ton of stuff that people don'tknow about me that they're,
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they're about to find out about me next, next year.
I'm I'm writing a memoir. That's amazing.
OK, I'm. Sorry, I just was thinking about
that. Might as well talk about it.
Go for it, man. But yeah, everything that all
the things that people think they know about me from just
watching me on TV or listening to me on the radio, that's part
of it. But there's a big other part
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that people don't really know. And I thought, you know, I'm 55
now. I've been at it for 30.
Jesus. Christ, you're 55.
I never have. Guessed that skin care routine
for for listeners at home. I'm a sun worshipper.
I love the sun that give me morethis I I wear sunscreen yes, but
drinking lots of water and this drink here tends to help me.
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Yeah, pretty good, right? Yeah, it's very good.
Bruce is a big hit. For sure, yeah, I got a, I got a
big story coming out next year. Then I think people are going to
be surprised and hopefully they,they take it in and, and, and
forgive me for the, the, the things I did in the past, but
when you're young, you do crazy things.
I've always wondered when peoplego back to write those because
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like, I believe people want to write those for the right
reasons. Yeah, yeah.
When you go through your past and you don't have to like get
into if. If there is a note of the sense,
you don't have to get into it, but like, do you ever get to the
point where you're like, I want to be honest and let people know
the real me? But then yes, when you start
digging into that, there's some things that you're like, I don't
know if I really want to let that out. 100% totally hit it on
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the head. Then how much like when you talk
to people about like, hey, this is my whole life and how much do
you say is like, is that really somebody's real life?
Like most of those kind of memoirs?
Is it like, well, 8090? Percent I can't speak for anyone
else's memoir because I'm, I'm not writing those, I'm writing
mine, but with a, with a ghost writer, a, a friend of mine who
was the writer at ET Canada, John Mayer and I, we said going
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into this, and we've been working on this like for a year,
just over a year now, everythingis going to be factual, truthful
and honest. There's not no embellishment, no
exaggeration. These are the true words of what
happened from day one. I start with my parents and how
they met in Hamilton and, and going right.
You know, that's those first fewchapters you got to start with,
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you know, the, the base, you know, the what built what built
us. And then we move into my career.
But everything that went on in, in the career is, is, is factual
and there's no embellishment. It's all genuine and sincere and
truthful and it is what it is 100% me and people didn't
probably didn't know 70% of thatwhat I'm writing, but it's about
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to come out and it's therapy in a way for me too, because I, I
hid these things. It was, it was very, I was very
secretive about these things. A couple people knew, of course,
my my, my spouse, my wife, my first wife and my second wife
and my family members, but but not many other people knew what
I was living and what I was going through and and what I
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still go through and and try to live with on a daily basis.
I think that helps people, right?
Like I think yeah it. Does when you Share your story
and. They've got a version of you in
their mind, but then they realize, you know, you've gone
through a bunch of shit and you've done a bunch of things to
to help yourself. I've always said like, you know,
I don't want to. And I worked for a show that was
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very polished. Entertainment Tonight kind of
was very polished. Never showed our mistakes, never
showed any little impromptu gestures that weren't right for
television. Much music was total opposite.
It was us. We, I made mistakes on a daily
basis. And I think I, you know, I don't
think I'd prefer that approach to life, the raw, the real.
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And I think people appreciate that more as well.
And, and I've always been that way.
I'll continue to be that way until the day I die.
The you know I am who I am. And you know, I was embarrassed
by a few things growing growing up.
But when you're younger you always are more self-conscious
about certain things. But now, no regrets.
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I'm older, more mature, ready totell my story and if I can help
someone along in their journey, if they're struggling with what
I struggled with, it'll bring a smile to my face.
That's huge man. That's awesome.
Yeah, good for you. If you got a release date, like,
do we know when we're going to be able to read it?
We're we're we're halfway through writing it and we're
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working with with a big publisher in Canada and fall,
let's say summer or fall of the next year, which will be my 30th
anniversary of going on television for much music.
That's a cool celebration. Yeah, that's awesome.
So 2026 might be a nice anniversary.
So next fall you're going to be a busy guy doing all all your
book signings. I'll be back on this show.
Do you guys have me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for
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sure. You guys along for sure.
And then the real discussion starts.
And then we get to, then we get to put it right there.
Oh, man. Oh.
Wow, he was Musk that was on theshow, no?
No, OK, kind of. That's my cyber.
Beast. Yeah.
Nice one in the parking lot. That's yours.
Yeah. What color is that?
That's Cobalt. What is that?
Yeah, it's like a like a metallic cobalt but with the the
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matte finish on it instead of whole.
Sort of man, you do well with this podcast.
Well, we we're busy boys. Outside, we're busy.
Yeah, 100%, man. So like drug dealings been.
Busy. Yeah, it's it's, it's so hard
to. Balance.
I love how you don't shy away from anything on this show
either. Like.
No, we don't, man, It's real. So I don't want to go.
I, I, I, I love a surprise and I'm, I'm excited to, to read
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your memoir, but I, I would be remiss to ask.
Mental health is always something that we try and talk
about and we do it super intentionally because we just
think that men should have dialogue around that.
So how in the world do you balance being this dad, this
husband, the celebrity? What?
What do you do to to prepare yourself?
How do you keep balance? What do you do?
I'm a very positive guy and veryoptimistic.
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Half is the glass is half full all the time for me.
And, and and I want to take advantage of every every
opportunity that that comes my way.
And I want to live life. And I think my dad taught,
taught me the best rule or gave me the best advice in life.
He says we only live once, but if we live it the right way,
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once is enough. Like if we do what we want to
do. Love that.
Take advantage of things like dothings that you want to travel,
do this, start this business, whatever.
No regrets. Just do it all.
And then I think once is enough.You're right, because we don't
want to overstay our welcome. Let other human beings do their
thing when we're when we're gone.
And he also said, you know, the mountain isn't going to go come
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to you. You got to go to the mountain
and, and, and accomplish your goals and follow your dreams.
So it's all of that stuff. I think that keeps me positive
and keeps me moving forward and keeps me interested in things in
life. Yeah, I've never been a negative
person. I think that there's no no room
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for that in in my space. And that comes across in your
work. I hope so.
Thank you. Yeah, like I, I, I work with a
lot of people that are that way that are total opposite than me.
But Nah, everyone's different, but I just always wanted to be
positive. Let's get it done.
Let's let's have a good time doing it.
Yeah, but I imagine that's goingto be like if I, if I asked you
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what you think the, the, you know, cornerstone of your
success was, it would probably be that, right because.
All things so celebrities and great people like interaction.
And they get to choose who they work with.
Right. That's right.
Yeah, a nice positive guy is. You're right, I think because
later in in my career, you know,people would come back and say,
well, could we have that guy talk to us again?
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We had such a good time. And I think that that's that
meant so much to me. You know, it's amazing not
knowing that that would happen later for the second, third,
fourth interview. It happened a lot with the boy
bands. I know that pigeonholed into
that genre and I'm a rock and roller and read the memoir.
No, it's all good. They they were making a lot of
people happy and they continued to make a lot of people happy.
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I respect them, still do. How about all those boys going
back? On I don't.
Know about 98°. Come on man, they're going to be
playing OLG stage. Yeah, they'll probably be there.
Let's I think there's still a chance.
I still got a chance. I want to ask about Dad too,
man, because I love those two points of wisdom.
What did Dad do for work? So my dad came over when he was
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17 from Italy. He took a boat from Genoa to
Halifax, took him five days. He was on the very bottom of the
boat. He was like this poor kid.
Farmer kid grew up on a farm with older siblings, couple of
younger siblings. My grandparents over there were
farmers. And so he came over here because
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his one older brother went up toFrance.
He was a police officer, but andso my dad went there first
because he was going to be a cyclist professionally, but but
he didn't have a visa to stay there.
So he got he got thrown out of the country.
His other older brother came to Hamilton to work in the steel
factories. So my dad thought, OK, I want to
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get out of what I'm doing now inthis farm, and I want a better
life. So he came, came to Hamilton,
did a little construction in hisearly years and became a
insulator. So he was insulating pipes for a
living for many, many years, close to 40 years.
And he's, we joke around when wetalk about this.
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He was, he's responsible for putting all the asbestos in the
buildings all over the ways. Yeah, but.
I thought you're going to make alaying the pipe.
Joke, Just so you know, that's why I.
Thought that was going. He's laid a lot of pipes.
You have to ask him that. But he was actually coating the
pipes pipes. Yeah, but I put myself through
university in the 90s by removing all the asbestos that
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him and his, but he's installed in all these universities or
buildings. Yeah.
So he put it in and I took it out.
Oh, yeah. How's his healthy?
OK, He's got asbestosis. He does.
He just was diagnosed with that earlier this year, just earlier
this year. He's going to be 90 in March.
Wow. And he, he went through a stroke
in December, Moderate. So he was knocked out for a
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while, in hospital for three months.
Had to do a lot of tests, a lot of tests and the doctors finally
found out that he's got asbestosis after all these years
so but it don't no symptoms for my dad.
He's still as strong as a bull. He, he uses a Walker in a cane
these days, but he still lives life and is very active and
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wants to do things. And I took him to Montreal with
my oldest son for the Formula One race.
I'm taking him to Niagara Falls for a, for a weekend getaway in
a couple weekends. He he lives on his own still.
And that's awesome. We were there for him when he
was discharged from the hospitalbecause we had to keep our eye
on him, you know, So I would sleep over.
My older siblings would help during the day, but he said, I
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want to be on my own again. I like, you know, I miss my
independence. What are you guys doing around
all the time? He's old school kids out.
He's old school. So we put his, we, we put the
most chair lifts in because he'sgot one of these old, over 100
year old houses in Hamilton and a lot of stairs.
So we, we moderated it and renovated his house and that's
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where he wants to be. It's his house.
He's been there for over 60 years.
Wow, he's not longer than that. You imagine people don't do that
anymore. No, man, he's never moved since
he came to Canada. That's where he, well, I'm sure
he was bored, you know, in, out,out East End and living there
when he was first here. But he settled there in this
house with my mom, and they've been in the same place ever
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since. That's a that's a bit of a dying
breed, I imagine working that hard for that many years with
that. Yeah.
Just like, yeah, you know, that's.
He he was real man doing. Real man shit.
He never complained. He's a bull.
He that, that generation, they're bulls.
They they just do it. They just no, no complaining, no
asking questions. Well, this is what we're doing
today. Let's do it until the job is
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done and then go home and have anice meal, get some rest and
we'll do it all over again the next day, whatever the job is.
And he was a, he is a glass halffull guy.
He's got that same energy. Yeah.
I think his glass glass is 3/4. 3/4 he's.
Almost up to the brim, man, thatguy, good for him.
He's always smiling, always positive and of course he's
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slowing down a little bit now because of the of the stroke,
but he wants to keep going. Until he can't anymore.
Like. And that's the attitude I have
too. Yeah, and and same kind of dad
like really showed up the way you do.
Well, he, he was, yeah. Like he was, gosh, because my
mom was a stay at home mom, she was raising 4 kids.
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So my dad was always out, you know, whether it was in Sudbury
where his job took him for construction or insulating or
Thunder Bay, wherever it was. Well, he went, he went where the
work was when it was slow in Hamilton, he went there.
So he wasn't always around US 24/7 like I try to be with my
boys. But but you know, when he was
home, he was there whether he was, you know, taking us to
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soccer games or soccer practicesor teaching me how to drive the
car or showing me how to swing aGolf Club, kick a soccer ball.
Yeah, he was did it all. When he wasn't working, he was
with the kids and his and my momdid it all, did it all, did it
all. How does he feel?
Well, let's go back to like whenyou audition for the temp, How
do you feel about that? How does he feel about what you
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do now? Yeah, yeah.
When I first applied to that contest and got my foot in the
door and did the VJ search and told them I want to be on air as
a VJ, they were like, no, they were supportive.
They've always been supportive. And they were like what the fuck
is a VJ? Yeah, well, well, well,
academics runs in my family, like all my older siblings are
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teachers and and my oldest brother was a chaplain out of
high school for many years. So I was going to just fall into
the line of I could like, education and teach, but when I
fell into this world of television, they were a little
taken aback. But they weren't never.
They were never like, no, you can't do that.
You know, do what your older siblings are doing.
No, they followed my what I was dreaming and they were part of
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that dream with me. That's so cool.
So they were always proud and supportive.
And still to this day, my dad is.
And yeah, it's you got to be that way as a parent, you know,
if your, if your child is showing a passion about doing
something, why would you ever discourage that?
Because that passion it, it, it really like, it really shines
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that light and that, that that child really comes alive and,
and, and with a smile or with, you know, with, with a sparkle
in their eye or whatever it is like, I would never discourage
anything that my boys want to get into.
See, but that's such a big thought though, man, because for
you, that's organic. Like for you, that's just what
it is, right. But there's a lot of guys that
like when they have especially sons, for some reason, they see
that as their second chance. Like they see that as right.
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He's going to be the guy I wasn't there for, I expect, or
therefore, you know, and that that that could be tough on a
kiddo, man. Oh.
For sure he can. He could put a lot of pressure
on a kiddo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I never. Fortunately, I never ran into
any of that with my parents. So great question.
We usually ask most of our guests and you've got a son
who's 20, so that would be the perfect timing if they're
sitting in your seat and I say tell me about your dad, what are
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they going to say? OK, what would Noah say?
Noah's a man of few words, OK? He likes to travel the world and
I think he got that from me, which I got from my parents,
which is great, exploring different cultures.
What would Noah say about me? I think he would say like, I'm a
very hard worker. Like I, I, I, whatever it takes,
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I'll, I'll get the job done. Like I, I, I used to commute
into Toronto twice a day. And this was just up until like
a few months ago. I would go in in the morning,
come back, go back in and I asked my wife, we might have to
move back to Toronto. Like, I'm so busy there now.
No, we have our life here now inBurlington and we're not going
back to Toronto. So yeah, OK, I'll but I but I
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still did the commutes twice a day because that was what I
needed to do for my job. And, and it's it takes a lot out
of you. It's exhausting.
It could be very exhausting and it's dangerous.
Like all that time spent in a car on a highway like that was
five hours you. Drive that.
When you're going twice a day from Burlington, Toronto, you're
driving it. Driving so you don't even have
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the time, you're not checking emails, you're.
Like, no, I'm not checking all that.
I'm driving. I'm focused on the on the road.
So, and that's why I say whatever it takes to get the job
done, I'll do it because I like to do it.
First of all, I love doing it. I love TV and radio.
So even if I had to drive a little further, I think I would,
especially my family's not goingto move closer to my job.
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You know, like my dad said, thatmountain's not going to come to
you. You got to go to that mountain
if you want to get it all done. So that's the that's the one
thing I think Noah would say, because Noah saw it and Noah was
young. I had Noah when I was at much
music. I was six months out of my jaw
and sorry, I was six months awayfrom my job at ET Canada and
Noah was born. So Noah got a little bit of the
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much music taste as a little one, but he saw me traveling a
lot and working a lot at ET Canada.
He saw, he saw how busy I was. And that's, I think that's a
good thing. And it showed him, you know, you
got to work hard to, to accomplish things.
But it also showed me, like, I knew when my next child was
born, I knew I wanted to spend alot more time with them in the
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earlier stages, especially when my wife was pregnant.
But I think I'm getting off track here.
But going back to what Noah would say, yeah, hard, hard
worker. Hard worker is perfect.
How old are the other two? 11:00 and 9:11 and 9:00.
Yeah. They're so young compared to
Noah. Yeah.
It's like they're worlds apart, you know, and.
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Yeah, we're right in the thick of that now.
My girls are. Eaten tens 8 and 10.
Right around the same split. And a 20 year old as well.
No, no, not not that we're awareof.
No we just just the 2 girls for me but your your three boy dad
3. Boys Yeah 6, three boys 12 and
14. 6/12/14 Yeah, yeah, my threesons.
I had. Love it.
Yeah, yeah, his. His boys are the best too.
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They're literally. I wanted a girl.
Yeah, yeah. I I always knew I wanted to be a
girl dad. If I could have chosen, I would
have said girl, dad. I grew up with two younger
sisters, so it was just kind of like, I kind of saw my dad do it
and it just kind of made sense to me.
And then a great relationship with my sister still to this
day, for sure. Yeah.
We all live within walking distance of each other.
See them and my nieces and nephews once a week.
And. That's so important.
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Family is family, yeah. Be in touch with them and see
them all the time. But you can have a bit of both
though, right? Like look at your career and now
you got that too, right? Like that's, that's pretty cool.
It's a nice balance. And I'm just going through my
little notes here too. Did you climb Mount Kilimanjaro?
Well, when you say climb, we hiked to the very top.
On a scale of 1 to helicopter. What are we talking?
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I didn't take a helicopter to the peak.
No, that's what you're asking for. 6000, I think it's 6000
meters. We started at 2000 meters, which
is around so 6000 meters, around20,000 feet.
I think now it took us seven days to go from starting point
up and then back down 102 kilometers.
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So it wasn't like a climb where you're like thinking like we're
climbing like it's trail. It's more of like a trail like a
hike, a slow incline and you really have to pace yourself.
You start off really slow. I thought that most guys would
have just jumped in, but yeah man, I made it to the peak and
that's all. He's.
Like, no, no, it wasn't really that hard.
It's. Not.
Like where the memoirs gonna come out and it was a Land Rover
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Discovery. That's a good thing.
Slowly assented. Yeah, well, I hear Everest does
a lot more of a grueling climb. Maybe I'll try that one next.
But Kilimanjaro was beautiful. You know, you're you're in
Africa. We did it for World Vision.
It was a it was a fundraiser called the Killy Climb for Kids.
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We were raising funds for less fortunate kids of Tanzania and
Kenya and all the surrounding countries.
But it was a great experience. I did it with the older brother
of the of Jonathan and Drew Scott.
JD is the older brother, Property Brothers.
Yeah, of course. You know, the guys and and a few
other people. We raised a lot of money.
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They made a documentary on it. And yeah, it's true.
We we did the climb. Yeah, 'cause you do.
Like, I kind of know because just, you know, you, we live in
the same city and you see what you see.
Like I know how much stuff you do in the community.
What do you do in these days foryour philanthropic work?
What are you proud of? Well, I, I, I, I like doing a
lot of kids charities, whether it's sick kids hospital or, you
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know, Mcmaster's Children's Hospital, I used to do a lot of
work for, but I'll do anything like, I, I want to just help
people. If, if people are approaching me
to help out, I usually make sometime, however I can in any
capacity I can. So, but, but, and I've been
doing that since like forever, like a good friend of our family
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that used to live next door to us used to volunteer at a local
hospital. And she would bring me in with
her from time to time when I wasa young teenager, like 1213.
And I saw the good work that wasgoing on when people volunteer
in hospitals, something simple like you go to from room to room
with a chocolate cart and a, anda chip, then chips on the and
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pops or whatever. But people would, you know, oh,
here comes the cart. They would, they would smile and
get all giddy and, and, and thatjust opened the door for
conversation with them. You know, you, you didn't know
who this person was. You know, they're dealing with
something, but it made their dayjust seeing these volunteers
come around. So I saw that and I thought from
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that point, I want to start doing a lot of that stuff
because it's putting smiles on faces and it's it's getting
people through their days. It's a simple thing like that.
Plus you leave like, I mean, youwant a life hack?
You feel like your glass is everless than half full, Go do that.
Go do. That man, the impact it has, go
do that. It means nothing to you.
But for that person that you're helping out with and spending
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five 1015 minutes with means everything.
And put your life into perspective pretty quick, man.
Both my sisters like, so my sister Michelle, when she got
out of school and then probably for about a decade worked at
sick kids. And then we've done some work
with them as well too. And I mean, go go, go volunteer
there and put your own shit in perspective.
Humbles you quickly it. Does humble you may We did.
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We did our radio marathon aroundChristmas from chapter with CHI
at sick kids for six hours and in between all the breaks and
songs, we went around to visit the families and the kids.
And it's, it is I, I strongly recommend everyone, if you have
a chance to go in there and do that.
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It it brings you right, it humbles you and it, it just, it
just you just forget about all the trivial things in life, like
when you see a child that's 234 battling cancer or battling any
other serious health condition that you're battling.
It's just, it's heartbreaking, but people, everyone should see
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that. I think we'd have less worries
in the world and there'd be lessnegative in the world if people
just got a glimpse of that, you know, for face to face.
And there's no hospital in Canada that wouldn't welcome
volunteerism like they. They would love to have you.
Oh yeah, something to do and. And selfishly, it's almost like
self therapy too. It is.
And that kind of stuff. Like it, It really does help.
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I had a few just kind of random questions.
Do you mind if I throw a? Few.
I like random. I love random.
So I had doing the ChatGPT, I kind of saw how many places
you've been and the one thing that kept popping up is you,
you've had these amazing meet and greets, whether it be a red
carpet, whether it be at an event, whether it be at
whatever, what's the most or. Who you mean meeting someone
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who's the? Most memorable interview or or
surprise run in or give me give me a good name drop and a good
story. I, I'm like a 70s kid, right?
I was born in 1970. So I, I loved growing up
watching the happy days long before your time.
Happy Days was like Ron Howard as Richie Henry Winkler as the
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Fonz, you know, the Fonz. So I, I, I watched that show
religiously and then other sitcoms like it in the 80s like
Cheers and Cosby Show and all these other shows.
But but welcome back. Carter was another one with John
Travolta. So that's classic that one.
So when I I'm watching these shows as a kid and now I'm in
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this position as an on air TV personality to like interview
these people, it's like no way. So the first time I got to
interview Henry Winkler and I forget about it, I was like
blown away. I grew up watching the Fonz and
idolizing the Fonz. Even when he jumped the shark.
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He did. He did.
But he's totally the totally opposite personality and
character that Henry Winkler is compared to the the character he
played, Arthur Fonzarelli. And I wasn't expecting that at
first. But so anyway, meeting him was
it's that was bucket list. And then other actors similar to
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him, like Tom Hanks, you know, watching Bosom Buddies and
watching all the early movies that Tom Hanks did and, and
finding out that like Henry Winkler, this guy is so down to
earth, so humble, not conceited,you know, doesn't need to be put
on a pedestal. Like, how cool is that that
these guys are normal cool guys?Just bro out.
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Just bro out and then and then II can throw a few others in
there. But the the other one that
really struck me like this guy'sliving the life.
He's on top of the world. Everyone wants a a piece of him.
Another actor was George Clooney.
I felt he was so genuine with with and you only spend a few
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minutes with him when you're doing movie junkets, you know,
you go into a hotel room. They're they're waiting for you.
But he is like he got up from his seat.
He he approached me out outcomeshis hand.
He shakes my hand, he introduceshimself.
It's like he didn't need to introduce himself, but it was
such a great conversation. But you grew up watching these
people and then you get to meet them and they just blow your
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mind with how how much more they, they, they, they blew my
expectations. You know, I, you didn't think
they're going to be this nice orthis real or sincere.
And they are all three of those people were.
When you get to the point in your career where when you're
meeting those people that you'reno longer like, I don't want to
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say fanboyish, but we're like, you're just, you're just seeing
them as normal people when you're talking to them instead
of like somebody else that like doesn't do what you do and
they're, you know what, talking to them and like, you know,
excited about it to. Tell you the truth and this is
going to be in the book. I'm always a fanboy, man.
I'm ATV kid. I'm a a film kid.
I I I fanboy out all the time. I I still can't believe it and
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I've been doing it for this long.
Like when I met John Travolta for the first time at much music
like people can see how nervous I was and I was already
established that much music. I was the veteran one of the
veteran VJ's, but John Travolta was coming in and I I got to
interview him. Jay, this is like Vinnie
Barbarino from welcome back Cotter man I'm he's a sweat hog
that I grew up watching. I was sweating.
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I was nervous. People could tell whatever, but
I was a genuine fan and I alwayswill be.
Are you sure? You got to be professional.
You got to ask the questions that are on people's minds.
And that did come across as well.
But I'm trying to hide the fact that, man, I'm hanging up with
John Travolta. Yeah, yeah.
That's cool, but. I think that works though.
That's what makes it so, yeah, Ithink.
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Right. I hope so.
Yeah, because the dude watching on TV is a fanboy.
So you're asking like fanboy questions?
That's right, that's how it works.
Man, so kind of same question, but I want to go down the music
side. Most memorable live music
performance. Well, there's a bunch because
I'm a music kid and I, I, I feltmy thumb was on the pulse of
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music back in the 80s and 90s and I knew everything that there
was to know. And, and, but that was my life.
That was my world. That was it for me.
And so I got, I got a chance to see Nirvana in Buffalo in 94 for
the heart-shaped Box and, and what a show that was like I
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caught Dave Pearl's drumstick like I was in the pit, like I
was a pit kid. I was always in the mosh pit.
Yeah, I'm a little kid. Like I got killed in the, in the
I got crushed. I almost broke my neck at a Nine
Inch Nails show because I got tossed and I landed on my head
and it was like, I, I, I, I couldn't move for days, it felt
like. But that's what I loved.
So seeing Nirvana, I was a big fan of Nirvana, Pearl Jam,
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Soundgarden, Stone Table Pilots,all these bands, that was my
thing. And so to see them.
You got to see them. All I got man, I so, and then
U2, like U2 is one of the bands like I, I, I was in a band
myself for a while, a singer just in the last of the minute.
And U2 and Bono was one of thosecharacters or vocalists that I
always aspire to be close with and close to in my own delivery.
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So I've been a fan of their since like, gosh, late 70s,
early 80s. So I would use it.
I, I saw U2 every time they cameto town on every tour, multiple
times. I go to different cities.
Pearl Jam was the same. I would do that with Pearl Jam
as well every time they were playing close by if I had to
drive to Montreal, the States. So those are just some of the
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shows that really stand out. Did you ever get some?
Like, did you ever sit down and interview Dave Krull?
Yeah, yeah. I brought, I brought the
drumstick out and I never get people to sign anything.
That's not me. I'm not.
I think I'm maybe I've gotten three people to sign things in
my life and, and I think one or two of them were for someone
else. That was Tony Bennett.
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He signed something for my parents.
Dave Grohl signed his drumstick.But you had the drumstick from
before, so that meant a lot. That's why it's.
Such Yeah. Well, I told him the story and
what he wrote on it. And he's obviously at the time
he's now with Foo Fighters. What did he put out out of the
time capsule? He wrote on it.
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Out of the time capsule. Yeah.
He wrote it. And.
And so I still have that. I cherish that.
I used to drum too, back back inthe day.
I had my own drum kit up in the attic.
But meeting these, these people,even meeting at the guys in
Pearl Jam, Eddie wasn't part of that interview because he was
too busy in the corner drinking his red wine out of the bottle.
But I talked to the Stone and and Jeff.
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And that was like pinch me moment.
Surreal. Surreal Scott Weiland from Stone
Temple Pilots. That's a sad story, but you know
rock'n'roll stars, right? It's hard to see.
That's the flip side, man. Sometimes you meet those heroes
and sometimes they're George Clooney and you know, yeah,
sometimes it's like, man, they're.
But people are people. Yeah, they are.
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They are, man. Yeah.
Yeah. Like he, he, you know, and we
all know, you know, we tried getting clean.
He tried getting help. You know, he had his demons and
and the demons got to him, but he was such a talented, talented
front man. That's that double edged sword
though, right? I mean, we see it in some of the
people that are being, you know,just that artistic mindset, the
creative mindset comes with, comes with a darker side too
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sometimes. Never fell into that myself.
I, I, I think I was, I had a good enough head on my shoulders
from my parents and family members that I never felt I saw
a lot of that side of, of the business.
But I never fell into that. Yeah.
Because thank goodness. Yeah, yeah, it's a tricky one,
man. We, when we talk about it on the
show all the time because it's like, you know, sometimes it
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does come naturally for people to know how to fill their glass
to half and understand how to prioritize what is truly
important. But then, you know, sometimes
it's medical, sometimes it's physical, sometimes it's things
that are really hard to control.So I watch those, man.
And it's it's tough. And it's especially tough when
it's people you look up to like that.
Yeah, sure. Yeah.
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So give me, I just want to Fast forward a little bit to today.
Tell us about your career. Obviously, we know we've got
this memoir coming out next, let's say fall.
What's good today? I know you ran here from BT.
I did for that I did. No.
My pleasure, man. I was doing so when I got let go
from ET Canada back in 2017. I wasn't doing much.
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I, I was honored to, it was likea blessing in disguise because
my 2 little guys were really little and my wife was still
working in Toronto. Angie was working at the
Maryland Dennis Show, so we werein Burlington.
She was going back and forth from here to there and I was Mr.
Mom, so that was great. I was changing diapers, I was
preparing meals. That was the best eight months.
It was really cool. It got me there with my boys
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because I wasn't able to do anything else.
You know, you sign these contracts, you can't work for
anyone else for a year or whatever it is.
So I was at home and it was great.
It was the best gig ever. So Fast forward, a radio station
called me up to be on a morning show, Z1O35, and I'd been out of
work for a while. I was doing like freelance
things here and there, hosting and seeing social media was
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starting to take off with campaigns and brand
partnerships. So I was starting to do some of
that. But the radio station called up.
Would you like to be a part of the morning show?
I said, yeah, OK, I've never done that before.
Gotta get up really early, 3:30 in the morning.
It was tough. I did it for 13 months and
realized I couldn't do it anymore because I was a zombie
when I got home. It took a toll on me physically
and I just didn't, you know, I liked music and it brought me
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back to my roots of talking about music and being live.
But I just, I had to give up. So I did after 13 months and
then went through another law for a little while until, you
know, Troy Smith from from CHFI called me up.
He was the content director at CHFI.
He's moved over to KISS now, buthe called me up.
He said, would you want to be part of our roster on the radio?
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And I said, yeah, OK. Not in the morning, though, is
it? He said, no, it's not in the
morning. We got our morning show.
It's the afternoon drive. And I go, yeah, that's more of
my speech. That's the one.
Yeah, that's the one right there.
So I did that. I did that for, again, 14
months. But at the same time I was doing
that, I was doing breakfast television, the Live Eye as a
freelancer, filling in whenever they needed me.
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But I knew my heart was there with that job because it's TV,
it's going out into the different communities and
finding out about people. So when a gig opened up to do
that full time, I jumped at it. And then I had to tell my CHFI
family, well, I can't do both anymore because it's going to
just take me away from my familytoo much because of the two day
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to two commutes a day. So they they let me out of the
radio side of it nicely. But I still have a weekend show
on CHFI that I pre record. But now I do full time breakfast
television in the morning on city TV, which I love.
I love it. It's it brings me back to live
TV because it is live TV. Anything can happen and you
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never know what your guest is going to say and my guest never
knows what I'm going to say at times.
So it's really spontaneous and impromptu I, which I love.
Yeah, me too. Yeah, I looked up a few notes in
my pocket. Yeah, it's way better to.
Just do it. I had the notes, too.
Every time I interviewed people,I would have those notes
standing by on the backs of my CDs.
Yeah, standbys. Just in case.
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Yeah, but. It's hard to ET.
It's probably a lot less polished too.
Like it's at least you can be. Maybe not as real as you were.
Yeah, too much music, but. It's not polished at all.
Yeah, what I'm doing these days.But plays so well though man I
saw a clip I can't remember which one of your kiddos you
brought in but it was they were just off camera but like you
were having an honest like conversation with them.
They were a part of it, yeah. You just forget what?
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It was they were, they were asked a question and it was a
day where you had your kids in. And I'm like, well, that's even
better. Like it should be like.
That right, yeah, here's. Here's what it is I.
Asked my kids and my wife to come to be part of it anytime
they can. You know, it's a little early
for them, sure, but I say listenevery time.
If you're up when I'm up, come with me.
Let's have some fun doing this together.
Which I used to do with my parents too.
When I traveled everywhere for interviews, I always invited my
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parents because I wanted to givethem that opportunity to, to
travel and see new places. They gave me that when I was a
kid, right? I was just trying to not repay.
But I, I wanted them to experience, Yeah, continue,
yeah, continue different cultures around the world.
And, and my parents usually came, yeah, 90% of the time
they, they got to experience it with me.
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That's so cool. And then run it into some.
People and then run it. They ran into people.
They ran. Into some music, see some
celebrity you. Have to have my dad in this
chair next time. Come on, let's go.
What else do you want to like? Is there anything you're excited
about? Obviously the memoir, what
you're doing is great right now.Anything else people should know
about how you're spending your time?
Things you're excited about? I am really excited about this
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book that I'm writing. It's taking a long time.
It's a longer process than I thought.
It's a, it's a, it's a grinding,you know, slow, meticulous
process. But I think it they, it should
be that way. You know, you want to do it
right? I'm only going to write one
book. This is my story, so we want to
do it right. So that's what I'm really big on
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right now, you know, falling back into TV full time.
It's only been a couple months since I've been with BT full
time. So I'm really honored to be back
doing TV full time. You know, I'm going to, I'm
going to ride, ride this one offinto the sunset, you know,
whenever they want to get rid ofme.
You know, I'm not, I'm not pulling the plug because I love
TV so much. So I'm pumped about this, this
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new opportunity. What else?
I wanted to spend more time withmy family.
That's always, that's number one.
That's always in my mind. And that does happen too.
But I think that's enough for now.
Yeah, That's great, man. That's awesome.
Yeah. Have you had?
I'm just looking at some of my notes and I don't want to miss
this question because I thought,what would he say?
Yeah. So if your kids are sitting down
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and you put on clips of you fromday one, what's what's the best
chirp you've got? What?
What did they say about? They're not.
Kids see me with the frosted tips.
It's like, what kind of hairstyle is that?
What what kind of look is that? Before the frosted tips, my
whole head was platinum blonde and it looked totally different.
So if they'll see a picture of me, like I think I've posted a
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couple and they they just don't recognize.
They just don't get it. They just don't see.
We were all rocking the boy band.
We were all doing it, yeah, and we were all doing it.
My 12 year old doesn't know likehe he does the frosting tips.
Yeah, no, but like my wife wantsto pull the cap.
And they do all the shit. I'm like that's.
Not how you do it. I'm like put some Hairspray in
your hair and pick some random spots and like you just gotta go
that way. Rugged style.
Put a little. Sun in, let that sit in.
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The Sun. Gorillaz.
Wait for yeah, little dippity doto finish.
Yeah, No, you're off to the races.
Yeah. My daughter, especially Lucy,
she is, she loves a chirp and anytime she sees it right around
that, like when I was probably around that age.
Yeah. The chin strap.
Like you talk about the boy bandthing, you know, the real thin
or whatever. And she's like, Dad, I don't
know what you were thinking. Like she's like, has mom ever
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seen that? I'm like, I guess your mother's
seen it. And.
She's like. How did she feel about it?
Yeah, OK, I got it. Yeah, we're all growing up.
Through those moments in in our life where we we wish we had
someone around us that could have said, well, no, maybe
that's not a good look for you or but.
You wouldn't have listened. Anyway, you wouldn't have
listened anyway. No, I did listen to my parents
once. No, sorry, more than once,
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obviously. But I wanted an earring badly
when I was a teenager. My parents wouldn't let me get
it. So I didn't run around behind
their back and get it. I just, I, I respected their
wish and I never got an earring to this day.
Never got an earring. Now when I got a tattoo on air
live with much music, my mom wasn't that happy with it, but I
still did it. I go mom was for TV.
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It was made for good TV. She she grew to love it after a
while, but. What was the tattoo?
Flaming dice. Oh yeah, I used to play crap.
He's the 70s and 80s guy they. Were.
Hanging from a. Rearview mirror.
It's on my calf, OK. And yeah, I'm pretty proud of
it. I I used to love to play craps,
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so I got that on there for that.Yeah, another.
One, do you like to play? Relax.
Yeah, we just so we just happened to go to the.
Play relax. He's.
Like, no, I don't, I don't even gamble, man.
I don't like it. So he goes and he's like, we're
going to the casino. This is when we were in Halifax.
Yeah. He's like, why don't you just,
I'll teach you how to whatever. So I'm like, alright, so I'm
watching the game a little bit and I'm trying to like figure it
out. And it was a busy table too.
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There was a. Ton of yeah.
But he's like. One of the $1.00 tables too.
So OK, there's guys sitting there just like for 20 minutes
for each round. So he's like, so take a number.
So I'm like, well, I'm gonna I'll call my kids.
I'll call Lucy and Ellen be like, hey girls, give me a
number. So Ella says 10 and then Lucy
says 13. She's a big Taylor Swift fan, so
13, obviously. So I'm like, all right, so I put
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it down and I put 100 bucks. So it was 50 bucks per chip and
13 hats first time. You put 50 bucks right on one
number. Yeah, I was.
I was playing 2530. 235 was a 35. 35 he was getting his I I I
played two rounds 25 bucks on each summer and my second time I
hit. I wrote Big Spenders over here.
Heavy and hard, baby, that. So I hit my red 32 and then he
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comes back and he's got his chips and he figures out what
number and he's like, well, whatdid that pay out?
And I'm like, he's like 3532 was34.
It was 34 to one. Yeah, yeah, 0.
Sorry, not a bad day. So he goes.
So it hits and everybody at the table is like, that's funny
because he knew I was just kind of watching or whatever, and
then so. He was the first time doing.
That and he brings out the 50s. He looks at me and he's like,
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we're done. No, no, not yet, Not yet.
Because I was like, I gave, he was playing $25 chips and I was
too. And I threw the guy 25 bucks and
I can you put this on on. 3rd, Ithought you were tipping him.
OK. It was with that, OK.
No, you can't play 2 of. You can't play the same color
chips and color. Chips, right?
I'm already doing it over here, so I didn't want to like tell
him that. So I'm like, OK, just give us a
back. Fucking black 13 hits.
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I would have hit it too with him.
No, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait.
How soon after the Black 13 hit again, it was.
It was the next one. The same role.
He wouldn't let us both go. We were, so we were the same.
We ordered drinks, we we played three shoots and we walked out
up $2400. I want to go to the casino with
you guys, OK? We're going, he said.
No, no, no. That's like, no, I've been down
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there. Sure, before you you lose it
really fast. Oh, yeah, you do.
Let's go. Yeah, yeah.
Wow, that's a great story. Really gamble though, but
apparently he's good at it, so that was pretty pretty fun.
You're probably like in that onepercentile that's beating the
casino and never returned. Yeah, good for you.
Maybe not for you, man. Yeah.
It's just I've never been about that.
No, I'd rather go for my money. How you mind?
We I'd rather go like, yeah, yeah.
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I like music too, man. Like my favorite part of the
trip was just that just walked in, kind of followed our ears.
You know what was playing? Kitchen parties.
Yeah, it was great. Yeah, it was awesome.
We have tradition on the show, but I don't think I gave you a
heads up, so this might be coming at your.
Blinds. It's gonna be good.
This. Yeah.
Well, this is gonna test. Your dad, you wanted me to
prepare. I I could have prepared, but I.
Yeah. So we.
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Well, if he did his research andwatched all the shows that he'll
know about, yeah. He's got time for that, for
sure. Dad joke.
Do you have a favorite dad joke or a pun or something you can
tell us on the show? And I know that's putting you on
the spot. Man, I hate to do man.
Usually I give you the heads up but like you came in and I was
so. Excited no, it's just talking
okay, okay, I got it. I think I got it got.
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It Yeah. Can you tell us a bad?
Joke. Yeah, I can.
So my dad used to raise rabbits in the backyard, okay?
He's a farmer from Italy, so he don't hold it against them, OK.
I used to walk down to the basement sometimes and see like
the dead rabbits hanging from the clothesline.
That's how Italian we were growing up in Hamilton.
Easter was a little darker here.A little.
Darker. Yeah.
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What are we eating tonight? It's chicken.
No, it tastes like it's harder. It's.
It was Rabbit. The Easter fox comes around and
drops off chocolate. So a dad joke that that really,
really stuck with us because we had a lot of bunnies.
So what do you call a rabbit with with fleas?
What do you call a rabbit with fleas?
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This is an easy one. Bugs Bunny.
Bugs Bunny. Yeah, there you go.
The kids love it. The kids love that one.
Man, thank you so much for. Your time, Hannah may be fine,
no? It's shit.
My dad, I wanna. Love you guys man, love spending
time with you guys. It's, it's our honor, it's our
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privilege. I I totally want to have you
back when memoirs are because I think we can have an awesome
conversation about that. There's lots of stories there.
Can't wait to see it all. Man, we just touched, touched
the surface with this one, but there's lots of stuff that I
went through back in the day that I want to get out now.
Like I said earlier, it's like therapy for me to talk about and
let's let's do this again, we will.
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Yep, thanks man. Thanks so much.
Yeah. Appreciate it.
Thanks. Thanks, Rick.
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Like whatever. Yeah, I hear all the terms and.
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Rick Campanelli, yes man, welcome.
Chris, Jamie, thanks guys for having me.
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We're on earth. We've been watching you guys for
a while. You do great work and you have
some very cool people sitting inthis chair over here.
It's an honor to be here in thischair today.
Well, you're, you're one of those cool people, man.
I so I'll I'll start by saying Irelentlessly slid into your DMS.
For a long time. Kids listening at home.
If you know somebody you want tomeet, go make it.
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You're not the only one. Well, let's have a look.
Best looking, Best looking, bestlooking.
All right, we'll take it. Committed.
That's it. Yeah.
Committed, man, I got that. Persistent.
Yeah. So, Rick, we have a tradition to
start the show with a little chachi PT Yeah, it's our way of
phoning it in. Introduce.
I mean, you don't need an introduction, but I'll do it
anyways just so that those who are maybe, you know, new to your
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career will go or maybe learn something about how vast it is.
So chachi BT intro. Rick Campanelli is one of
Canada's most recognizable and loved media personalities,
right? A broadcasting icon whose career
began when he won Much Musics Much Temp contest in 1994,
therefore earning the nickname Rick the Temp.
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But he actually went on to become Rick the Franchise.
Over 12 years, he became a fixture on Canadian
entertainment television with roles on ET Canada, Deal or No
Deal Canada. Is that all right?
I don't remember the deal or No Deal thing you're rocking with
how? You're right, minimally.
I'll explain once we get into. Oh, I can explain now give me.
A taste go. Man, I did a promo for how we
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show up here in Canada because he brought the show up to Canada
for a little while and it was airing on Global where ET Canada
used to there when I was there was.
How he doing it? And how he was doing it.
And I did like a little promo for it.
I never got to hang out with anyone from the show but I guess
doing this promo. It made.
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Part of the show. Giving you credit.
Like I could have done more but.And then you did do more, so it
says. Since then, he's transitioned
into Radio Live. He reported.
They told me I had a face for radio after my TV career ended.
We were told Podcast. And according to right now, not
a face for this, Yeah. That's it.
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And then CHFI Breakfast Television Toronto, while
remaining deeply rooted in philanthropy and community.
Oh yeah, always. That's it, man.
It's day one, even before TV andradio.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't wait to hear more about
that. And then I have to say this part
because I'll tell you, there wasa bunch of reasons why I wanted
to meet you. And again, thank you.
But this one is awesome. And I don't think a lot of
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people know this, but Rick is equally devoted to his family.
A proud father of three, he has openly shared how taking
paternal leave early and fatherhood changed his life,
cementing his belief in hands onparenting.
Hands on, I want to be there. I want to be part of every
minute that my wife is going with these guys.
The your spouse goes through theprocess when you're having a
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kid, you're just there for support.
But I wanted to be there every second of every day when my
first wife was going through it with my eldest son Noah, and
when my wife Angie was going through it with, with Jack and
Harrison. It's actually, it's cool the way
it worked because when I had my first son 20 years ago, I was at
much music and, and, and I didn't think I was able to take
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a lot of time off to be and I probably didn't.
I never really looked into it asseriously as I did.
Or scared to take it off. Or scared to.
Take it off not knowing what would happen, you know, and
you're on, you're on TV, you're on much music, you know, V JS
can't have kids. They they're, they're kids
themselves. You got to be the coolest single
guy. Right, right.
But, but, but Master T had kids and he inspired me.
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No, my older siblings inspired me as well.
And my parents. But when Jack came along, my
middle child, I told my wife, I'm going to be here with you
through this whole process. I'm going to try to take as much
time off from ET Canada as I as I can.
And they allowed me. And then when Harris and my
third child was born, I, I went the Max I, I took as much time
because that was the priority. And, and it still is my family.
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I just wanted to be there, You know, my work does my work and
my jobs. They, they, they don't really
define me. It's, it's, it's, it's the
father that I am and the spouse to my, to my wife and, and you
know, I've got siblings as well.It's it's family.
It's family that that finds me. So where'd that come from?
I think my parents, I think my parents and my my grandparents,
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my Nono and Nona from Italy, whoI only got to see a few times
because they never did come overto Canada to visit.
We would always go over there tosee them, but they, they were my
grandparents. We couldn't really communicate
because they spoke Italian and Ididn't speak Italian, but we
were all, we, we were when we were together.
It was special. So that was in Italy, but, but I
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had grandparents in Canada as well that grew up with us in
Hamilton. We were always there.
So it's, that's where it started.
And of course your, your parentsteach you right from wrong and
they morals and values. And my parents did that to
myself and my older three siblings.
So that's where it started and Ialways wanted to be the best dad
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I could and best husband I could.
I guess it starts with being thebest husband.
First one failed, you know, but I, I, I got a second crack at it
and I'm trying to make up for learning experience, learning
experiences because, you know, Igot married the first time.
I was a lot younger. I was at much music.
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I, I, I don't really think I gave it enough time to breathe.
I I should have just I met my first wife six months into my
job in in 1996. So your hair was on fire.
Hair was on fire. There's so much going on around
me. I don't think and I'm not I, I
don't regret anything, but I just don't don't think I was
prepared for that, that institution of marriage at the
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time. And but we were together for 12
years, 6 dating, 6 married and we have a beautiful son, Noah,
who's 20 now. And everything happens for a
reason in life. And then I met my second wife at
ET Canada and had two more kids.But it's always a learning
experience, like you said. Yeah, with, with me, I think it
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is with everyone in life throughout life.
It's crazy how there's a lot that people just don't know,
right? Like, like they watch TV, they
watch your Facebook, your Instagram, but there's oh.
Gosh, there's so much going on behind the scenes.
Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah.
And you know, you try to post a lot, you know, you want to be
transparent with people in your community, but there's a ton of
a ton of stuff that people don'tknow about me that they're,
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they're about to find out about me next, next year.
I'm I'm writing a memoir. That's amazing.
OK, I'm. Sorry, I just was thinking about
that. Might as well talk about it.
Go for it, man. But yeah, everything that all
the things that people think they know about me from just
watching me on TV or listening to me on the radio, that's part
of it. But there's a big other part
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that people don't really know. And I thought, you know, I'm 55
now. I've been at it for 30.
Jesus. Christ, you're 55.
I never have. Guessed that skin care routine
for for listeners at home. I'm a sun worshipper.
I love the sun that give me morethis I I wear sunscreen yes, but
drinking lots of water and this drink here tends to help me.
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Yeah, pretty good, right? Yeah, it's very good.
Bruce is a big hit. For sure, yeah, I got a, I got a
big story coming out next year. Then I think people are going to
be surprised and hopefully they,they take it in and, and, and
forgive me for the, the, the things I did in the past, but
when you're young, you do crazy things.
I've always wondered when peoplego back to write those because
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like, I believe people want to write those for the right
reasons. Yeah, yeah.
When you go through your past and you don't have to like get
into if. If there is a note of the sense,
you don't have to get into it, but like, do you ever get to the
point where you're like, I want to be honest and let people know
the real me? But then yes, when you start
digging into that, there's some things that you're like, I don't
know if I really want to let that out. 100% totally hit it on
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the head. Then how much like when you talk
to people about like, hey, this is my whole life and how much do
you say is like, is that really somebody's real life?
Like most of those kind of memoirs?
Is it like, well, 8090? Percent I can't speak for anyone
else's memoir because I'm, I'm not writing those, I'm writing
mine, but with a, with a ghost writer, a, a friend of mine who
was the writer at ET Canada, John Mayer and I, we said going
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into this, and we've been working on this like for a year,
just over a year now, everythingis going to be factual, truthful
and honest. There's not no embellishment, no
exaggeration. These are the true words of what
happened from day one. I start with my parents and how
they met in Hamilton and, and going right.
You know, that's those first fewchapters you got to start with,
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you know, the, the base, you know, the what built what built
us. And then we move into my career.
But everything that went on in, in the career is, is, is factual
and there's no embellishment. It's all genuine and sincere and
truthful and it is what it is 100% me and people didn't
probably didn't know 70% of thatwhat I'm writing, but it's about
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to come out and it's therapy in a way for me too, because I, I
hid these things. It was, it was very, I was very
secretive about these things. A couple people knew, of course,
my my, my spouse, my wife, my first wife and my second wife
and my family members, but but not many other people knew what
I was living and what I was going through and and what I
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still go through and and try to live with on a daily basis.
I think that helps people, right?
Like I think yeah it. Does when you Share your story
and. They've got a version of you in
their mind, but then they realize, you know, you've gone
through a bunch of shit and you've done a bunch of things to
to help yourself. I've always said like, you know,
I don't want to. And I worked for a show that was
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very polished. Entertainment Tonight kind of
was very polished. Never showed our mistakes, never
showed any little impromptu gestures that weren't right for
television. Much music was total opposite.
It was us. We, I made mistakes on a daily
basis. And I think I, you know, I don't
think I'd prefer that approach to life, the raw, the real.
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And I think people appreciate that more as well.
And, and I've always been that way.
I'll continue to be that way until the day I die.
The you know I am who I am. And you know, I was embarrassed
by a few things growing growing up.
But when you're younger you always are more self-conscious
about certain things. But now, no regrets.
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I'm older, more mature, ready totell my story and if I can help
someone along in their journey, if they're struggling with what
I struggled with, it'll bring a smile to my face.
That's huge man. That's awesome.
Yeah, good for you. If you got a release date, like,
do we know when we're going to be able to read it?
We're we're we're halfway through writing it and we're
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working with with a big publisher in Canada and fall,
let's say summer or fall of the next year, which will be my 30th
anniversary of going on television for much music.
That's a cool celebration. Yeah, that's awesome.
So 2026 might be a nice anniversary.
So next fall you're going to be a busy guy doing all all your
book signings. I'll be back on this show.
Do you guys have me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for
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sure. You guys along for sure.
And then the real discussion starts.
And then we get to, then we get to put it right there.
Oh, man. Oh.
Wow, he was Musk that was on theshow, no?
No, OK, kind of. That's my cyber.
Beast. Yeah.
Nice one in the parking lot. That's yours.
Yeah. What color is that?
That's Cobalt. What is that?
Yeah, it's like a like a metallic cobalt but with the the
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matte finish on it instead of whole.
Sort of man, you do well with this podcast.
Well, we we're busy boys. Outside, we're busy.
Yeah, 100%, man. So like drug dealings been.
Busy. Yeah, it's it's, it's so hard
to. Balance.
I love how you don't shy away from anything on this show
either. Like.
No, we don't, man, It's real. So I don't want to go.
I, I, I, I love a surprise and I'm, I'm excited to, to read
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your memoir, but I, I would be remiss to ask.
Mental health is always something that we try and talk
about and we do it super intentionally because we just
think that men should have dialogue around that.
So how in the world do you balance being this dad, this
husband, the celebrity? What?
What do you do to to prepare yourself?
How do you keep balance? What do you do?
I'm a very positive guy and veryoptimistic.
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Half is the glass is half full all the time for me.
And, and and I want to take advantage of every every
opportunity that that comes my way.
And I want to live life. And I think my dad taught,
taught me the best rule or gave me the best advice in life.
He says we only live once, but if we live it the right way,
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once is enough. Like if we do what we want to
do. Love that.
Take advantage of things like dothings that you want to travel,
do this, start this business, whatever.
No regrets. Just do it all.
And then I think once is enough.You're right, because we don't
want to overstay our welcome. Let other human beings do their
thing when we're when we're gone.
And he also said, you know, the mountain isn't going to go come
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to you. You got to go to the mountain
and, and, and accomplish your goals and follow your dreams.
So it's all of that stuff. I think that keeps me positive
and keeps me moving forward and keeps me interested in things in
life. Yeah, I've never been a negative
person. I think that there's no no room
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for that in in my space. And that comes across in your
work. I hope so.
Thank you. Yeah, like I, I, I work with a
lot of people that are that way that are total opposite than me.
But Nah, everyone's different, but I just always wanted to be
positive. Let's get it done.
Let's let's have a good time doing it.
Yeah, but I imagine that's goingto be like if I, if I asked you
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what you think the, the, you know, cornerstone of your
success was, it would probably be that, right because.
All things so celebrities and great people like interaction.
And they get to choose who they work with.
Right. That's right.
Yeah, a nice positive guy is. You're right, I think because
later in in my career, you know,people would come back and say,
well, could we have that guy talk to us again?
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We had such a good time. And I think that that's that
meant so much to me. You know, it's amazing not
knowing that that would happen later for the second, third,
fourth interview. It happened a lot with the boy
bands. I know that pigeonholed into
that genre and I'm a rock and roller and read the memoir.
No, it's all good. They they were making a lot of
people happy and they continued to make a lot of people happy.
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I respect them, still do. How about all those boys going
back? On I don't.
Know about 98°. Come on man, they're going to be
playing OLG stage. Yeah, they'll probably be there.
Let's I think there's still a chance.
I still got a chance. I want to ask about Dad too,
man, because I love those two points of wisdom.
What did Dad do for work? So my dad came over when he was
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17 from Italy. He took a boat from Genoa to
Halifax, took him five days. He was on the very bottom of the
boat. He was like this poor kid.
Farmer kid grew up on a farm with older siblings, couple of
younger siblings. My grandparents over there were
farmers. And so he came over here because
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his one older brother went up toFrance.
He was a police officer, but andso my dad went there first
because he was going to be a cyclist professionally, but but
he didn't have a visa to stay there.
So he got he got thrown out of the country.
His other older brother came to Hamilton to work in the steel
factories. So my dad thought, OK, I want to
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get out of what I'm doing now inthis farm, and I want a better
life. So he came, came to Hamilton,
did a little construction in hisearly years and became a
insulator. So he was insulating pipes for a
living for many, many years, close to 40 years.
And he's, we joke around when wetalk about this.
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He was, he's responsible for putting all the asbestos in the
buildings all over the ways. Yeah, but.
I thought you're going to make alaying the pipe.
Joke, Just so you know, that's why I.
Thought that was going. He's laid a lot of pipes.
You have to ask him that. But he was actually coating the
pipes pipes. Yeah, but I put myself through
university in the 90s by removing all the asbestos that
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him and his, but he's installed in all these universities or
buildings. Yeah.
So he put it in and I took it out.
Oh, yeah. How's his healthy?
OK, He's got asbestosis. He does.
He just was diagnosed with that earlier this year, just earlier
this year. He's going to be 90 in March.
Wow. And he, he went through a stroke
in December, Moderate. So he was knocked out for a
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while, in hospital for three months.
Had to do a lot of tests, a lot of tests and the doctors finally
found out that he's got asbestosis after all these years
so but it don't no symptoms for my dad.
He's still as strong as a bull. He, he uses a Walker in a cane
these days, but he still lives life and is very active and
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wants to do things. And I took him to Montreal with
my oldest son for the Formula One race.
I'm taking him to Niagara Falls for a, for a weekend getaway in
a couple weekends. He he lives on his own still.
And that's awesome. We were there for him when he
was discharged from the hospitalbecause we had to keep our eye
on him, you know, So I would sleep over.
My older siblings would help during the day, but he said, I
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want to be on my own again. I like, you know, I miss my
independence. What are you guys doing around
all the time? He's old school kids out.
He's old school. So we put his, we, we put the
most chair lifts in because he'sgot one of these old, over 100
year old houses in Hamilton and a lot of stairs.
So we, we moderated it and renovated his house and that's
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where he wants to be. It's his house.
He's been there for over 60 years.
Wow, he's not longer than that. You imagine people don't do that
anymore. No, man, he's never moved since
he came to Canada. That's where he, well, I'm sure
he was bored, you know, in, out,out East End and living there
when he was first here. But he settled there in this
house with my mom, and they've been in the same place ever
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since. That's a that's a bit of a dying
breed, I imagine working that hard for that many years with
that. Yeah.
Just like, yeah, you know, that's.
He he was real man doing. Real man shit.
He never complained. He's a bull.
He that, that generation, they're bulls.
They they just do it. They just no, no complaining, no
asking questions. Well, this is what we're doing
today. Let's do it until the job is
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done and then go home and have anice meal, get some rest and
we'll do it all over again the next day, whatever the job is.
And he was a, he is a glass halffull guy.
He's got that same energy. Yeah.
I think his glass glass is 3/4. 3/4 he's.
Almost up to the brim, man, thatguy, good for him.
He's always smiling, always positive and of course he's
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slowing down a little bit now because of the of the stroke,
but he wants to keep going. Until he can't anymore.
Like. And that's the attitude I have
too. Yeah, and and same kind of dad
like really showed up the way you do.
Well, he, he was, yeah. Like he was, gosh, because my
mom was a stay at home mom, she was raising 4 kids.
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So my dad was always out, you know, whether it was in Sudbury
where his job took him for construction or insulating or
Thunder Bay, wherever it was. Well, he went, he went where the
work was when it was slow in Hamilton, he went there.
So he wasn't always around US 24/7 like I try to be with my
boys. But but you know, when he was
home, he was there whether he was, you know, taking us to
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soccer games or soccer practicesor teaching me how to drive the
car or showing me how to swing aGolf Club, kick a soccer ball.
Yeah, he was did it all. When he wasn't working, he was
with the kids and his and my momdid it all, did it all, did it
all. How does he feel?
Well, let's go back to like whenyou audition for the temp, How
do you feel about that? How does he feel about what you
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do now? Yeah, yeah.
When I first applied to that contest and got my foot in the
door and did the VJ search and told them I want to be on air as
a VJ, they were like, no, they were supportive.
They've always been supportive. And they were like what the fuck
is a VJ? Yeah, well, well, well,
academics runs in my family, like all my older siblings are
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teachers and and my oldest brother was a chaplain out of
high school for many years. So I was going to just fall into
the line of I could like, education and teach, but when I
fell into this world of television, they were a little
taken aback. But they weren't never.
They were never like, no, you can't do that.
You know, do what your older siblings are doing.
No, they followed my what I was dreaming and they were part of
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that dream with me. That's so cool.
So they were always proud and supportive.
And still to this day, my dad is.
And yeah, it's you got to be that way as a parent, you know,
if your, if your child is showing a passion about doing
something, why would you ever discourage that?
Because that passion it, it, it really like, it really shines
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that light and that, that that child really comes alive and,
and, and with a smile or with, you know, with, with a sparkle
in their eye or whatever it is like, I would never discourage
anything that my boys want to get into.
See, but that's such a big thought though, man, because for
you, that's organic. Like for you, that's just what
it is, right. But there's a lot of guys that
like when they have especially sons, for some reason, they see
that as their second chance. Like they see that as right.
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He's going to be the guy I wasn't there for, I expect, or
therefore, you know, and that that that could be tough on a
kiddo, man. Oh.
For sure he can. He could put a lot of pressure
on a kiddo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I never. Fortunately, I never ran into
any of that with my parents. So great question.
We usually ask most of our guests and you've got a son
who's 20, so that would be the perfect timing if they're
sitting in your seat and I say tell me about your dad, what are
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they going to say? OK, what would Noah say?
Noah's a man of few words, OK? He likes to travel the world and
I think he got that from me, which I got from my parents,
which is great, exploring different cultures.
What would Noah say about me? I think he would say like, I'm a
very hard worker. Like I, I, I, whatever it takes,
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I'll, I'll get the job done. Like I, I, I used to commute
into Toronto twice a day. And this was just up until like
a few months ago. I would go in in the morning,
come back, go back in and I asked my wife, we might have to
move back to Toronto. Like, I'm so busy there now.
No, we have our life here now inBurlington and we're not going
back to Toronto. So yeah, OK, I'll but I but I
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still did the commutes twice a day because that was what I
needed to do for my job. And, and it's it takes a lot out
of you. It's exhausting.
It could be very exhausting and it's dangerous.
Like all that time spent in a car on a highway like that was
five hours you. Drive that.
When you're going twice a day from Burlington, Toronto, you're
driving it. Driving so you don't even have
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the time, you're not checking emails, you're.
Like, no, I'm not checking all that.
I'm driving. I'm focused on the on the road.
So, and that's why I say whatever it takes to get the job
done, I'll do it because I like to do it.
First of all, I love doing it. I love TV and radio.
So even if I had to drive a little further, I think I would,
especially my family's not goingto move closer to my job.
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You know, like my dad said, thatmountain's not going to come to
you. You got to go to that mountain
if you want to get it all done. So that's the that's the one
thing I think Noah would say, because Noah saw it and Noah was
young. I had Noah when I was at much
music. I was six months out of my jaw
and sorry, I was six months awayfrom my job at ET Canada and
Noah was born. So Noah got a little bit of the
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much music taste as a little one, but he saw me traveling a
lot and working a lot at ET Canada.
He saw, he saw how busy I was. And that's, I think that's a
good thing. And it showed him, you know, you
got to work hard to, to accomplish things.
But it also showed me, like, I knew when my next child was
born, I knew I wanted to spend alot more time with them in the
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earlier stages, especially when my wife was pregnant.
But I think I'm getting off track here.
But going back to what Noah would say, yeah, hard, hard
worker. Hard worker is perfect.
How old are the other two? 11:00 and 9:11 and 9:00.
Yeah. They're so young compared to
Noah. Yeah.
It's like they're worlds apart, you know, and.
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Yeah, we're right in the thick of that now.
My girls are. Eaten tens 8 and 10.
Right around the same split. And a 20 year old as well.
No, no, not not that we're awareof.
No we just just the 2 girls for me but your your three boy dad
3. Boys Yeah 6, three boys 12 and
14. 6/12/14 Yeah, yeah, my threesons.
I had. Love it.
Yeah, yeah, his. His boys are the best too.
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They're literally. I wanted a girl.
Yeah, yeah. I I always knew I wanted to be a
girl dad. If I could have chosen, I would
have said girl, dad. I grew up with two younger
sisters, so it was just kind of like, I kind of saw my dad do it
and it just kind of made sense to me.
And then a great relationship with my sister still to this
day, for sure. Yeah.
We all live within walking distance of each other.
See them and my nieces and nephews once a week.
And. That's so important.
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Family is family, yeah. Be in touch with them and see
them all the time. But you can have a bit of both
though, right? Like look at your career and now
you got that too, right? Like that's, that's pretty cool.
It's a nice balance. And I'm just going through my
little notes here too. Did you climb Mount Kilimanjaro?
Well, when you say climb, we hiked to the very top.
On a scale of 1 to helicopter. What are we talking?
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I didn't take a helicopter to the peak.
No, that's what you're asking for. 6000, I think it's 6000
meters. We started at 2000 meters, which
is around so 6000 meters, around20,000 feet.
I think now it took us seven days to go from starting point
up and then back down 102 kilometers.
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So it wasn't like a climb where you're like thinking like we're
climbing like it's trail. It's more of like a trail like a
hike, a slow incline and you really have to pace yourself.
You start off really slow. I thought that most guys would
have just jumped in, but yeah man, I made it to the peak and
that's all. He's.
Like, no, no, it wasn't really that hard.
It's. Not.
Like where the memoirs gonna come out and it was a Land Rover
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Discovery. That's a good thing.
Slowly assented. Yeah, well, I hear Everest does
a lot more of a grueling climb. Maybe I'll try that one next.
But Kilimanjaro was beautiful. You know, you're you're in
Africa. We did it for World Vision.
It was a it was a fundraiser called the Killy Climb for Kids.
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We were raising funds for less fortunate kids of Tanzania and
Kenya and all the surrounding countries.
But it was a great experience. I did it with the older brother
of the of Jonathan and Drew Scott.
JD is the older brother, Property Brothers.
Yeah, of course. You know, the guys and and a few
other people. We raised a lot of money.
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They made a documentary on it. And yeah, it's true.
We we did the climb. Yeah, 'cause you do.
Like, I kind of know because just, you know, you, we live in
the same city and you see what you see.
Like I know how much stuff you do in the community.
What do you do in these days foryour philanthropic work?
What are you proud of? Well, I, I, I, I like doing a
lot of kids charities, whether it's sick kids hospital or, you
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know, Mcmaster's Children's Hospital, I used to do a lot of
work for, but I'll do anything like, I, I want to just help
people. If, if people are approaching me
to help out, I usually make sometime, however I can in any
capacity I can. So, but, but, and I've been
doing that since like forever, like a good friend of our family
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that used to live next door to us used to volunteer at a local
hospital. And she would bring me in with
her from time to time when I wasa young teenager, like 1213.
And I saw the good work that wasgoing on when people volunteer
in hospitals, something simple like you go to from room to room
with a chocolate cart and a, anda chip, then chips on the and
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pops or whatever. But people would, you know, oh,
here comes the cart. They would, they would smile and
get all giddy and, and, and thatjust opened the door for
conversation with them. You know, you, you didn't know
who this person was. You know, they're dealing with
something, but it made their dayjust seeing these volunteers
come around. So I saw that and I thought from
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that point, I want to start doing a lot of that stuff
because it's putting smiles on faces and it's it's getting
people through their days. It's a simple thing like that.
Plus you leave like, I mean, youwant a life hack?
You feel like your glass is everless than half full, Go do that.
Go do. That man, the impact it has, go
do that. It means nothing to you.
But for that person that you're helping out with and spending
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five 1015 minutes with means everything.
And put your life into perspective pretty quick, man.
Both my sisters like, so my sister Michelle, when she got
out of school and then probably for about a decade worked at
sick kids. And then we've done some work
with them as well too. And I mean, go go, go volunteer
there and put your own shit in perspective.
Humbles you quickly it. Does humble you may We did.
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We did our radio marathon aroundChristmas from chapter with CHI
at sick kids for six hours and in between all the breaks and
songs, we went around to visit the families and the kids.
And it's, it is I, I strongly recommend everyone, if you have
a chance to go in there and do that.
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It it brings you right, it humbles you and it, it just, it
just you just forget about all the trivial things in life, like
when you see a child that's 234 battling cancer or battling any
other serious health condition that you're battling.
It's just, it's heartbreaking, but people, everyone should see
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that. I think we'd have less worries
in the world and there'd be lessnegative in the world if people
just got a glimpse of that, you know, for face to face.
And there's no hospital in Canada that wouldn't welcome
volunteerism like they. They would love to have you.
Oh yeah, something to do and. And selfishly, it's almost like
self therapy too. It is.
And that kind of stuff. Like it, It really does help.
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I had a few just kind of random questions.
Do you mind if I throw a? Few.
I like random. I love random.
So I had doing the ChatGPT, I kind of saw how many places
you've been and the one thing that kept popping up is you,
you've had these amazing meet and greets, whether it be a red
carpet, whether it be at an event, whether it be at
whatever, what's the most or. Who you mean meeting someone
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who's the? Most memorable interview or or
surprise run in or give me give me a good name drop and a good
story. I, I'm like a 70s kid, right?
I was born in 1970. So I, I loved growing up
watching the happy days long before your time.
Happy Days was like Ron Howard as Richie Henry Winkler as the
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Fonz, you know, the Fonz. So I, I, I watched that show
religiously and then other sitcoms like it in the 80s like
Cheers and Cosby Show and all these other shows.
But but welcome back. Carter was another one with John
Travolta. So that's classic that one.
So when I I'm watching these shows as a kid and now I'm in
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this position as an on air TV personality to like interview
these people, it's like no way. So the first time I got to
interview Henry Winkler and I forget about it, I was like
blown away. I grew up watching the Fonz and
idolizing the Fonz. Even when he jumped the shark.
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He did. He did.
But he's totally the totally opposite personality and
character that Henry Winkler is compared to the the character he
played, Arthur Fonzarelli. And I wasn't expecting that at
first. But so anyway, meeting him was
it's that was bucket list. And then other actors similar to
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him, like Tom Hanks, you know, watching Bosom Buddies and
watching all the early movies that Tom Hanks did and, and
finding out that like Henry Winkler, this guy is so down to
earth, so humble, not conceited,you know, doesn't need to be put
on a pedestal. Like, how cool is that that
these guys are normal cool guys?Just bro out.
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Just bro out and then and then II can throw a few others in
there. But the the other one that
really struck me like this guy'sliving the life.
He's on top of the world. Everyone wants a a piece of him.
Another actor was George Clooney.
I felt he was so genuine with with and you only spend a few
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minutes with him when you're doing movie junkets, you know,
you go into a hotel room. They're they're waiting for you.
But he is like he got up from his seat.
He he approached me out outcomeshis hand.
He shakes my hand, he introduceshimself.
It's like he didn't need to introduce himself, but it was
such a great conversation. But you grew up watching these
people and then you get to meet them and they just blow your
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mind with how how much more they, they, they, they blew my
expectations. You know, I, you didn't think
they're going to be this nice orthis real or sincere.
And they are all three of those people were.
When you get to the point in your career where when you're
meeting those people that you'reno longer like, I don't want to
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say fanboyish, but we're like, you're just, you're just seeing
them as normal people when you're talking to them instead
of like somebody else that like doesn't do what you do and
they're, you know what, talking to them and like, you know,
excited about it to. Tell you the truth and this is
going to be in the book. I'm always a fanboy, man.
I'm ATV kid. I'm a a film kid.
I I I fanboy out all the time. I I still can't believe it and
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I've been doing it for this long.
Like when I met John Travolta for the first time at much music
like people can see how nervous I was and I was already
established that much music. I was the veteran one of the
veteran VJ's, but John Travolta was coming in and I I got to
interview him. Jay, this is like Vinnie
Barbarino from welcome back Cotter man I'm he's a sweat hog
that I grew up watching. I was sweating.
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I was nervous. People could tell whatever, but
I was a genuine fan and I alwayswill be.
Are you sure? You got to be professional.
You got to ask the questions that are on people's minds.
And that did come across as well.
But I'm trying to hide the fact that, man, I'm hanging up with
John Travolta. Yeah, yeah.
That's cool, but. I think that works though.
That's what makes it so, yeah, Ithink.
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Right. I hope so.
Yeah, because the dude watching on TV is a fanboy.
So you're asking like fanboy questions?
That's right, that's how it works.
Man, so kind of same question, but I want to go down the music
side. Most memorable live music
performance. Well, there's a bunch because
I'm a music kid and I, I, I feltmy thumb was on the pulse of
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music back in the 80s and 90s and I knew everything that there
was to know. And, and, but that was my life.
That was my world. That was it for me.
And so I got, I got a chance to see Nirvana in Buffalo in 94 for
the heart-shaped Box and, and what a show that was like I
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caught Dave Pearl's drumstick like I was in the pit, like I
was a pit kid. I was always in the mosh pit.
Yeah, I'm a little kid. Like I got killed in the, in the
I got crushed. I almost broke my neck at a Nine
Inch Nails show because I got tossed and I landed on my head
and it was like, I, I, I, I couldn't move for days, it felt
like. But that's what I loved.
So seeing Nirvana, I was a big fan of Nirvana, Pearl Jam,
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Soundgarden, Stone Table Pilots,all these bands, that was my
thing. And so to see them.
You got to see them. All I got man, I so, and then
U2, like U2 is one of the bands like I, I, I was in a band
myself for a while, a singer just in the last of the minute.
And U2 and Bono was one of thosecharacters or vocalists that I
always aspire to be close with and close to in my own delivery.
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So I've been a fan of their since like, gosh, late 70s,
early 80s. So I would use it.
I, I saw U2 every time they cameto town on every tour, multiple
times. I go to different cities.
Pearl Jam was the same. I would do that with Pearl Jam
as well every time they were playing close by if I had to
drive to Montreal, the States. So those are just some of the
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shows that really stand out. Did you ever get some?
Like, did you ever sit down and interview Dave Krull?
Yeah, yeah. I brought, I brought the
drumstick out and I never get people to sign anything.
That's not me. I'm not.
I think I'm maybe I've gotten three people to sign things in
my life and, and I think one or two of them were for someone
else. That was Tony Bennett.
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He signed something for my parents.
Dave Grohl signed his drumstick.But you had the drumstick from
before, so that meant a lot. That's why it's.
Such Yeah. Well, I told him the story and
what he wrote on it. And he's obviously at the time
he's now with Foo Fighters. What did he put out out of the
time capsule? He wrote on it.
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Out of the time capsule. Yeah.
He wrote it. And.
And so I still have that. I cherish that.
I used to drum too, back back inthe day.
I had my own drum kit up in the attic.
But meeting these, these people,even meeting at the guys in
Pearl Jam, Eddie wasn't part of that interview because he was
too busy in the corner drinking his red wine out of the bottle.
But I talked to the Stone and and Jeff.
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And that was like pinch me moment.
Surreal. Surreal Scott Weiland from Stone
Temple Pilots. That's a sad story, but you know
rock'n'roll stars, right? It's hard to see.
That's the flip side, man. Sometimes you meet those heroes
and sometimes they're George Clooney and you know, yeah,
sometimes it's like, man, they're.
But people are people. Yeah, they are.
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They are, man. Yeah.
Yeah. Like he, he, you know, and we
all know, you know, we tried getting clean.
He tried getting help. You know, he had his demons and
and the demons got to him, but he was such a talented, talented
front man. That's that double edged sword
though, right? I mean, we see it in some of the
people that are being, you know,just that artistic mindset, the
creative mindset comes with, comes with a darker side too
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sometimes. Never fell into that myself.
I, I, I think I was, I had a good enough head on my shoulders
from my parents and family members that I never felt I saw
a lot of that side of, of the business.
But I never fell into that. Yeah.
Because thank goodness. Yeah, yeah, it's a tricky one,
man. We, when we talk about it on the
show all the time because it's like, you know, sometimes it
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does come naturally for people to know how to fill their glass
to half and understand how to prioritize what is truly
important. But then, you know, sometimes
it's medical, sometimes it's physical, sometimes it's things
that are really hard to control.So I watch those, man.
And it's it's tough. And it's especially tough when
it's people you look up to like that.
Yeah, sure. Yeah.
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So give me, I just want to Fast forward a little bit to today.
Tell us about your career. Obviously, we know we've got
this memoir coming out next, let's say fall.
What's good today? I know you ran here from BT.
I did for that I did. No.
My pleasure, man. I was doing so when I got let go
from ET Canada back in 2017. I wasn't doing much.
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I, I was honored to, it was likea blessing in disguise because
my 2 little guys were really little and my wife was still
working in Toronto. Angie was working at the
Maryland Dennis Show, so we werein Burlington.
She was going back and forth from here to there and I was Mr.
Mom, so that was great. I was changing diapers, I was
preparing meals. That was the best eight months.
It was really cool. It got me there with my boys
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because I wasn't able to do anything else.
You know, you sign these contracts, you can't work for
anyone else for a year or whatever it is.
So I was at home and it was great.
It was the best gig ever. So Fast forward, a radio station
called me up to be on a morning show, Z1O35, and I'd been out of
work for a while. I was doing like freelance
things here and there, hosting and seeing social media was
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starting to take off with campaigns and brand
partnerships. So I was starting to do some of
that. But the radio station called up.
Would you like to be a part of the morning show?
I said, yeah, OK, I've never done that before.
Gotta get up really early, 3:30 in the morning.
It was tough. I did it for 13 months and
realized I couldn't do it anymore because I was a zombie
when I got home. It took a toll on me physically
and I just didn't, you know, I liked music and it brought me
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back to my roots of talking about music and being live.
But I just, I had to give up. So I did after 13 months and
then went through another law for a little while until, you
know, Troy Smith from from CHFI called me up.
He was the content director at CHFI.
He's moved over to KISS now, buthe called me up.
He said, would you want to be part of our roster on the radio?
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And I said, yeah, OK. Not in the morning, though, is
it? He said, no, it's not in the
morning. We got our morning show.
It's the afternoon drive. And I go, yeah, that's more of
my speech. That's the one.
Yeah, that's the one right there.
So I did that. I did that for, again, 14
months. But at the same time I was doing
that, I was doing breakfast television, the Live Eye as a
freelancer, filling in whenever they needed me.
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But I knew my heart was there with that job because it's TV,
it's going out into the different communities and
finding out about people. So when a gig opened up to do
that full time, I jumped at it. And then I had to tell my CHFI
family, well, I can't do both anymore because it's going to
just take me away from my familytoo much because of the two day
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to two commutes a day. So they they let me out of the
radio side of it nicely. But I still have a weekend show
on CHFI that I pre record. But now I do full time breakfast
television in the morning on city TV, which I love.
I love it. It's it brings me back to live
TV because it is live TV. Anything can happen and you
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never know what your guest is going to say and my guest never
knows what I'm going to say at times.
So it's really spontaneous and impromptu I, which I love.
Yeah, me too. Yeah, I looked up a few notes in
my pocket. Yeah, it's way better to.
Just do it. I had the notes, too.
Every time I interviewed people,I would have those notes
standing by on the backs of my CDs.
Yeah, standbys. Just in case.
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Yeah, but. It's hard to ET.
It's probably a lot less polished too.
Like it's at least you can be. Maybe not as real as you were.
Yeah, too much music, but. It's not polished at all.
Yeah, what I'm doing these days.But plays so well though man I
saw a clip I can't remember which one of your kiddos you
brought in but it was they were just off camera but like you
were having an honest like conversation with them.
They were a part of it, yeah. You just forget what?
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It was they were, they were asked a question and it was a
day where you had your kids in. And I'm like, well, that's even
better. Like it should be like.
That right, yeah, here's. Here's what it is I.
Asked my kids and my wife to come to be part of it anytime
they can. You know, it's a little early
for them, sure, but I say listenevery time.
If you're up when I'm up, come with me.
Let's have some fun doing this together.
Which I used to do with my parents too.
When I traveled everywhere for interviews, I always invited my
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parents because I wanted to givethem that opportunity to, to
travel and see new places. They gave me that when I was a
kid, right? I was just trying to not repay.
But I, I wanted them to experience, Yeah, continue,
yeah, continue different cultures around the world.
And, and my parents usually came, yeah, 90% of the time
they, they got to experience it with me.
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That's so cool. And then run it into some.
People and then run it. They ran into people.
They ran. Into some music, see some
celebrity you. Have to have my dad in this
chair next time. Come on, let's go.
What else do you want to like? Is there anything you're excited
about? Obviously the memoir, what
you're doing is great right now.Anything else people should know
about how you're spending your time?
Things you're excited about? I am really excited about this
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book that I'm writing. It's taking a long time.
It's a longer process than I thought.
It's a, it's a, it's a grinding,you know, slow, meticulous
process. But I think it they, it should
be that way. You know, you want to do it
right? I'm only going to write one
book. This is my story, so we want to
do it right. So that's what I'm really big on
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right now, you know, falling back into TV full time.
It's only been a couple months since I've been with BT full
time. So I'm really honored to be back
doing TV full time. You know, I'm going to, I'm
going to ride, ride this one offinto the sunset, you know,
whenever they want to get rid ofme.
You know, I'm not, I'm not pulling the plug because I love
TV so much. So I'm pumped about this, this
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new opportunity. What else?
I wanted to spend more time withmy family.
That's always, that's number one.
That's always in my mind. And that does happen too.
But I think that's enough for now.
Yeah, That's great, man. That's awesome.
Yeah. Have you had?
I'm just looking at some of my notes and I don't want to miss
this question because I thought,what would he say?
Yeah. So if your kids are sitting down
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and you put on clips of you fromday one, what's what's the best
chirp you've got? What?
What did they say about? They're not.
Kids see me with the frosted tips.
It's like, what kind of hairstyle is that?
What what kind of look is that? Before the frosted tips, my
whole head was platinum blonde and it looked totally different.
So if they'll see a picture of me, like I think I've posted a
(46:01):
couple and they they just don't recognize.
They just don't get it. They just don't see.
We were all rocking the boy band.
We were all doing it, yeah, and we were all doing it.
My 12 year old doesn't know likehe he does the frosting tips.
Yeah, no, but like my wife wantsto pull the cap.
And they do all the shit. I'm like that's.
Not how you do it. I'm like put some Hairspray in
your hair and pick some random spots and like you just gotta go
that way. Rugged style.
Put a little. Sun in, let that sit in.
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The Sun. Gorillaz.
Wait for yeah, little dippity doto finish.
Yeah, No, you're off to the races.
Yeah. My daughter, especially Lucy,
she is, she loves a chirp and anytime she sees it right around
that, like when I was probably around that age.
Yeah. The chin strap.
Like you talk about the boy bandthing, you know, the real thin
or whatever. And she's like, Dad, I don't
know what you were thinking. Like she's like, has mom ever
(46:43):
seen that? I'm like, I guess your mother's
seen it. And.
She's like. How did she feel about it?
Yeah, OK, I got it. Yeah, we're all growing up.
Through those moments in in our life where we we wish we had
someone around us that could have said, well, no, maybe
that's not a good look for you or but.
You wouldn't have listened. Anyway, you wouldn't have
listened anyway. No, I did listen to my parents
once. No, sorry, more than once,
(47:03):
obviously. But I wanted an earring badly
when I was a teenager. My parents wouldn't let me get
it. So I didn't run around behind
their back and get it. I just, I, I respected their
wish and I never got an earring to this day.
Never got an earring. Now when I got a tattoo on air
live with much music, my mom wasn't that happy with it, but I
still did it. I go mom was for TV.
(47:25):
It was made for good TV. She she grew to love it after a
while, but. What was the tattoo?
Flaming dice. Oh yeah, I used to play crap.
He's the 70s and 80s guy they. Were.
Hanging from a. Rearview mirror.
It's on my calf, OK. And yeah, I'm pretty proud of
it. I I used to love to play craps,
(47:45):
so I got that on there for that.Yeah, another.
One, do you like to play? Relax.
Yeah, we just so we just happened to go to the.
Play relax. He's.
Like, no, I don't, I don't even gamble, man.
I don't like it. So he goes and he's like, we're
going to the casino. This is when we were in Halifax.
Yeah. He's like, why don't you just,
I'll teach you how to whatever. So I'm like, alright, so I'm
watching the game a little bit and I'm trying to like figure it
out. And it was a busy table too.
(48:06):
There was a. Ton of yeah.
But he's like. One of the $1.00 tables too.
So OK, there's guys sitting there just like for 20 minutes
for each round. So he's like, so take a number.
So I'm like, well, I'm gonna I'll call my kids.
I'll call Lucy and Ellen be like, hey girls, give me a
number. So Ella says 10 and then Lucy
says 13. She's a big Taylor Swift fan, so
13, obviously. So I'm like, all right, so I put
(48:27):
it down and I put 100 bucks. So it was 50 bucks per chip and
13 hats first time. You put 50 bucks right on one
number. Yeah, I was.
I was playing 2530. 235 was a 35. 35 he was getting his I I I
played two rounds 25 bucks on each summer and my second time I
hit. I wrote Big Spenders over here.
Heavy and hard, baby, that. So I hit my red 32 and then he
(48:52):
comes back and he's got his chips and he figures out what
number and he's like, well, whatdid that pay out?
And I'm like, he's like 3532 was34.
It was 34 to one. Yeah, yeah, 0.
Sorry, not a bad day. So he goes.
So it hits and everybody at the table is like, that's funny
because he knew I was just kind of watching or whatever, and
then so. He was the first time doing.
That and he brings out the 50s. He looks at me and he's like,
(49:13):
we're done. No, no, not yet, Not yet.
Because I was like, I gave, he was playing $25 chips and I was
too. And I threw the guy 25 bucks and
I can you put this on on. 3rd, Ithought you were tipping him.
OK. It was with that, OK.
No, you can't play 2 of. You can't play the same color
chips and color. Chips, right?
I'm already doing it over here, so I didn't want to like tell
him that. So I'm like, OK, just give us a
back. Fucking black 13 hits.
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I would have hit it too with him.
No, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait.
How soon after the Black 13 hit again, it was.
It was the next one. The same role.
He wouldn't let us both go. We were, so we were the same.
We ordered drinks, we we played three shoots and we walked out
up $2400. I want to go to the casino with
you guys, OK? We're going, he said.
No, no, no. That's like, no, I've been down
(49:55):
there. Sure, before you you lose it
really fast. Oh, yeah, you do.
Let's go. Yeah, yeah.
Wow, that's a great story. Really gamble though, but
apparently he's good at it, so that was pretty pretty fun.
You're probably like in that onepercentile that's beating the
casino and never returned. Yeah, good for you.
Maybe not for you, man. Yeah.
It's just I've never been about that.
No, I'd rather go for my money. How you mind?
We I'd rather go like, yeah, yeah.
(50:16):
I like music too, man. Like my favorite part of the
trip was just that just walked in, kind of followed our ears.
You know what was playing? Kitchen parties.
Yeah, it was great. Yeah, it was awesome.
We have tradition on the show, but I don't think I gave you a
heads up, so this might be coming at your.
Blinds. It's gonna be good.
This. Yeah.
Well, this is gonna test. Your dad, you wanted me to
prepare. I I could have prepared, but I.
Yeah. So we.
(50:36):
Well, if he did his research andwatched all the shows that he'll
know about, yeah. He's got time for that, for
sure. Dad joke.
Do you have a favorite dad joke or a pun or something you can
tell us on the show? And I know that's putting you on
the spot. Man, I hate to do man.
Usually I give you the heads up but like you came in and I was
so. Excited no, it's just talking
okay, okay, I got it. I think I got it got.
(50:57):
It Yeah. Can you tell us a bad?
Joke. Yeah, I can.
So my dad used to raise rabbits in the backyard, okay?
He's a farmer from Italy, so he don't hold it against them, OK.
I used to walk down to the basement sometimes and see like
the dead rabbits hanging from the clothesline.
That's how Italian we were growing up in Hamilton.
Easter was a little darker here.A little.
Darker. Yeah.
(51:18):
What are we eating tonight? It's chicken.
No, it tastes like it's harder. It's.
It was Rabbit. The Easter fox comes around and
drops off chocolate. So a dad joke that that really,
really stuck with us because we had a lot of bunnies.
So what do you call a rabbit with with fleas?
What do you call a rabbit with fleas?
(51:40):
This is an easy one. Bugs Bunny.
Bugs Bunny. Yeah, there you go.
The kids love it. The kids love that one.
Man, thank you so much for. Your time, Hannah may be fine,
no? It's shit.
My dad, I wanna. Love you guys man, love spending
time with you guys. It's, it's our honor, it's our
(52:01):
privilege. I I totally want to have you
back when memoirs are because I think we can have an awesome
conversation about that. There's lots of stories there.
Can't wait to see it all. Man, we just touched, touched
the surface with this one, but there's lots of stuff that I
went through back in the day that I want to get out now.
Like I said earlier, it's like therapy for me to talk about and
let's let's do this again, we will.
(52:22):
Yep, thanks man. Thanks so much.
Yeah. Appreciate it.
Thanks. Thanks, Rick.
Pleasure.
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