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May 7, 2025 63 mins
Probably our most educated guest yet. In this episode, we sit down with Moustafa Hassan, a licensed therapist and founder of EMClinic, to talk about personal transformation, purpose, and mental health. He has studied in the United States, Russia and the UK over the span of many years. In this conversation we talk about what it means to live with intention, how mental and physical health are connected, and why therapy can be one of the most powerful tools for lasting change. There is a heavy focus on therapy that helps people deal with childhood traumas. Topics Discussed in This Episode: What is the meaning of life Childhood trauma and unfinished business What is happiness 5 necessities a child needs from their parents The link between physical and emotional health. Links: http://www.emclinic.ca
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Shit, my dad. My dad taught me, so Jamie and I
have a wonderful guest for you guys today.
We were joking before the episode started about how cool
it is to be able to sit in frontof somebody who's clearly much
smarter than we are, who has actual experience in real
things, and today is no exception.
The bar is not really that high,but.

(00:26):
But it just if if the camera cansee Mustafa too.
I mean, he looks the part, he's got the the bio.
I don't know if you can see this, but it's going to be a
ChatGPT today. Too much.
And we got a lot so. We have the folder on the other
table, yeah. There was a folder.
Welcome to the show, Mustafa. Thank you so much for inviting
me today. And we're so happy to have you.
We have a little bit of a skit here.

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We call the ChatGPT bio to properly introduce our guest and
get things going. So if I could, I'd like to read
what we were able to find on on the ChatGPT.
Doctor Mustafa A Hassan is a distinguished professional
specializing in healthcare, human resources, and business
education. He holds a oh boy, there's a lot

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of alphas in here. BSCMSC MB A and is currently
APHD candidate. As a professor, he imparts
knowledge in healthcare, HR, andbusiness disciplines in his
clinical practice. Doctor Hassan is a registered
emotion focused therapist. There's a big number beside that
one too, and a specialist in biofeedback and neurofeedback.

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He is also a member of the applied psycho psychology.
That might be wrong. Psychophysiology.
Oh, good psychophysiology I got.You bro so smart.
The big grade. 11, Grade 11. I only got to Grade 10, he got
to 11 and he flexes it all the time.
And biofeedback and the Canadiancounselling, and I got that one

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psychotherapy association, the CCPA.
His clinic, EMEM Clinic, is located in Burlington, ON.
How'd we do? Yeah, that's perfect.
OK. All right, that sounds like a
lot of schooling. Oh yeah, yeah, it it took me
like a lot of work. Yeah.
But like my my what I would liketo to say it here is the life

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experience and the hands on. There's even more stuff that
comes up, so take us right back to you're a kid.
Where does that all start? Oh, that's, that's amazing.
I was like born and raised in Cairo in Egypt.
And my father and mother, they were in the healthcare field for
like centuries. And when I finished my 1st

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degree, the bachelor's degree inclinical biochemistry, I joined
Pfizer. I worked for Pfizer for 10 years
up to the original responsibilities for medical
marketing across like 15 countries.
And then I, I established my consultancy firm where I had to
a lot of work with a lot of multinationals across the globe.

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Maybe after like 15 years ago, Ihad a life transformation.
My elder kids like all asked me about that.
Are you happy? So at that time I was very, very
successful, 6 figures my business like a, like a senior
consultant for most of the multinationals working in the

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pharmaceuticals. Like we launched more than 750
like pharmaceutical product across maybe like maybe 50
countries. But at, at that moment I was
like asking myself and questioning myself, am I really
happy? So I, I had like like a crash

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look like one week I disconnected for life from my
family, from everybody. And I started to like question
myself and asking myself what ismy life mission here and what is
my life passion. It took me like one week in
order to go back to my normal life.

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And I, I had a decision at that time not to continue and to step
down from what I'm doing and going after my life, passion and
mission. All after one question from from
when your eldest kids. So you know, our kids are our
like life light, like they are bringing something.

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They're very honest about their questions.
Yes, yes, yeah. We.
Have that talk before the beforethe episode started, my my
darling daughter came over and flicked the side right here and
she said, daddy, you're getting boobies.
So so we're back to the fitness routine and diet will be on

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point for the foreseeable future.
Thanks kids. Yeah, yeah.
So I started that journey maybe 15 years ago.
I started to step down from the pharmaceutical and Western
medicine stuff. After maybe 25 years of working
in this field, I started my clinic.
I started to study again, went into York.

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I studied the emotional psychotherapy, went to to
Russia, went to to the US, went to to UK, England.
I started I finished my certification psychotherapy in
Regent University in UK. How old would you have been when
you when you decided to make this life change?
40 years old. Yeah, I was 40.
It was in my birthday, literally.

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Yeah. So on my birthday, the 40th, I,
I, I, I, I just disappeared for one week and I came back like a
new person. So I started my career as I told
you that with Pfizer, finished my bachelor's, master's and
working now in the educational psychology and, and all of these

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stuff like like as a life passion.
This is my life passion and lifemission like to inspire minds
and warming hearts while I'm working in the in the field of
the consultancy, I started to put my hands on a clinical
studies that I used like workingwith Pfizer on it and we were

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testing like a a pharmaceutical product to treat pain for
rheumatoid arthritis and while. That's not what Viagra's for,
no. I launched Viagra for Pfizer at

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WAS. I've got a lot of launched
Viagra. No, it was very easy.
So we had this clinical. Sometimes fun to start with a
stiff joke when we're getting this kind of yeah.
We, we were had like a double placebo, whatever double-blind
crossover placebo study where wewere like giving the patients

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like placebo, like like a sugar tablet and the active ingredient
itself. And amazingly, we were hitting
60 to 70% clinical success was the placebo.
It's crazy how many people just mentally they believe they need
to. Take some like like it blew my

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mind because OK, that there is that means that all of these
congestion and this ease or challenges that we are facing
like up to 70%, you can control it and you can manage it where
you put your hands on the roots,which is emotional stuff and

(07:57):
psychological stuff, of course. Yeah, that's fascinating.
So my my first question for you is, I love the word happiness,
but I also understand that that can be so wildly different from
individual to individual and howwe define it and how we pursue
it. So what is happiness to you?
That's a big question. Like if I, I can like, like

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translate this into words, I would like say that it's like
how we are going to resonate with your life mission, how we
are going to resonate with your inner peace and being content
and like integrated with your second-half with yourself

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critique, for example. So happiness like a mighty, the
multidimensional and I believe happiness will we need like 4
wheels like in terms of their mental happiness, emotional
happiness, spiritual happiness and physical happiness as well.

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So imagine that we have like a vitamin D deficiency, for
example, we will not be able to feel happy if we have a
deficiency in serotonin like thehappy hormone, we'll not be able
to be happy physically and it itwill impact our emotional health

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and mental health as well. Because if you were to ask the
majority of the people that we know and you say, hey, if you
were making 300 four, $100,000 ayear at 40 years old and you've
got a couple adolescent kids that are like grown, smart,
accomplished, that's success. Most people would.
Most people would say that's. Happiness, correct?
Yeah. And this is, this was the big

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question from my kid when he asked me, are you happy?
Yeah, I was like very successful6 figures, like travelling the
world, making a lot of success stories and helping to bring
happiness into people's life as well.
But like for me, I wasn't happy.There's no self accomplishment

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there. Yes.
It's like I, I, I, I was like questioning myself, like, OK,
what I'm doing, like, you know, yeah.
Yeah. That word mission comes up a lot
too, yes. So how so you, you shut it down
for a week, You got some introspective time.
You're, you're doing the accountability piece.
What's a good tip to try and figure out what your mission is?

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That's a that's a very nice question.
Usually I'm asking my clients atthe office for.
So imagine that I'm giving you $100 billion today and all of
your dreams are fulfilled. All what you wanted to do is
done like what you're going to do every morning.

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So that's your life mission and it should resonate with your
like passion as well. So if you are asking me the same
question, I will tell you I'm going to do the same.
Whatever I'm doing now, I'm going to do the same.
So if you have a like $100 billion, what you're going to do

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early in the morning? Also, my answer is for sure
family first. It's for sure my girls done.
It's nothing, nothing more fulfilling than that.
I like I'm blessed to have some good friends.
I enjoy spending my time with I.I love sport, you know, day
golfing is probably. Imagine that, all of these stuff
already there. Yeah, yeah.

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What you're going to do? Yeah, probably continue on the
philanthropic work, you know, the stuff we've done with
Burlington dads, dad's helping others and you know, even even
this show, I mean, this is, you know, just speaking for myself,
this isn't work like this is this is awesome.
I'd, I'd do this all day, every day, because you know what a
what a cool thing to be a part of, right?
Getting, you know, guys like yourself to come on and share

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wisdom and give it all away likethat's.
It's bringing light into people's life.
Yeah, Yeah. So that's, that's your mission.
That's your life mission. Mine would be definitely to like
continue to inspire others to toachieve their their best.
Themselves. Yeah, yeah, to navigate to how

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they are. Just to help them be the best
version of what they of what they could be for sure.
Yeah, yeah, shooting the experience and yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm happy to hear you answer that.
If I was going to answer it for you, I'd say that because you,
you probably like Jamie will prioritize his schedule if
somebody needs help. Like that becomes the number
one. And the amount of times I've
seen you take a coffee just because somebody's in a tough

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spot or whatever, right? Like that's your that's what
gets you up. Mine's probably more on the
community and kids side of things, like the causes I've
been involved with from, you know, Nelson youth centers and
the Rock and the work that we doas Burlington dads.
That's that's probably mine. Probably, yeah.
Just that piece around trying tobe, you know, better, Better,

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dad, better. And I am, I, I believe I am
enjoying the same like mission. While I'm, I'm, I'm teaching in
a couple of colleges. I'm always telling my students
that you are the future leaders and I'm here to not to teach you
anything. I'm here to like give you the
the guidance how you are going to be successful and bringing

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light and happiness into our world.
So you're here not to like to learn as much as you are here to
be shaped and fine-tuned for thefuture.
Yeah. Just out of interest, so your
parents, were they forward thinking in the same manner?

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That's, that's amazing because Iown them a lot actually for my
family dynamics. I was like, as I told you that I
was like raised in a like a healthy care umbrella family.
And my dad used to work for Pfizer for 35 years as well.
So, but unfortunately my, my momlike passed away when I was 15

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years old and we were three kids, like 3 boys.
And my dad, God bless his soul. He dedicated his life to raise
us, three of us. He he didn't marry and he just
like dedicated his life for to, to support us, like succeeding

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and achieving in our life. And yes, for your question, yes
indeed, because they were into like the discipline into how we
are going to navigate your innerpeace, how you are going to be
like content. Put your smart objectives in, in

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like in front of your eyes how we are going to achieve it.
Like we, we were raised in a very, very systematic, yet
loving like environment as well.Whatever I achieved in my life,
I, I believe my dad has like a big imprint and that's why I'm
here today because he has a verybig imprint in my life and he

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changed our life. The three of us what?
Was your father's name. My father name a Fattah Mustafa.
And is he still with us today? Oh, he's sold.
Yeah. Amazing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He passed away a few years ago.
2018 OK. Yeah.
OK. Yeah, so he's looking down on

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you today. What does he say?
How's he feel proud of you? Oh yeah, yeah, he used to tell
me a lot. I am so proud of you.
Yeah, you're a dedicated person.You are hard worker and I
believe you see that's a very important topic for I wanted to
share it for every dad. When we were young and like

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starting the our childhood, we have like something called
emotional bond. It's like a cord like this one.
I need to put it on someone reliable caregiver who is going
to give me unconditional love, unconditional support,
validation, acknowledgement, safety, security.

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So all of these stuff I needed from a reliable person in my
life. And it was my dad, like he, he,
he used to be like my big support and big figure.
So for every dad, this is our mission here today.
Like unconditional love, unconditional support.

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Separate the behavior from the love.
Don't mix it. I'm I love you, but I'm not OK
with this behavior. So without these five stuff, it
is essential for every single kid to receive it from their
dads and moms, of course. And whatever I'm seeing in the

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clinic in the practice is like, we had a lot of traumas because
we didn't, we had a lot of unmetneeds.
No one validated us, no one filled us, no one connected with
us, no one heard us. So I believe like for every,

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every dad, like I was like, I'm,I'm very proud of my dad because
he was trying his best efforts to give me these five stuff.
I didn't learn about it until maybe like 15 years ago when I
went to learn the emotional psychotherapy.
But I, I was like translating every single like event where he

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was like supporting, being therefor me, encouraging me,
validating me. So yes, you used to say I'm so
proud of you. And I believe he's like saying
it again. Yeah, amazing.
So how do you I love what you said about separate the love

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from the behaviour. Yeah, treating those separately.
What other tips do you have for parents to try and develop these
emotionally stable kiddos? Yeah, it's a, it's AII believe
like this like time of like timeera.
It's totally different than whenwe were raising when we were
kids. A lot of challenges nowadays

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with the with a lot of stress factors, external stress factors
on the parents and on the kids as well.
So what I would like to share asinsights for every parent, like
in terms of the unconditional love and unconditional support,
you should be there 24/7 for your kid.

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Like if you are like working for8 hours or 10 hours or like like
overnight or travelling 1 phone call might be very important for
your kid. How are you doing?
Connection. How can I help you?
I'm here for you. I'm supporting you.

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Whenever you need me, I'm I, I will be there.
When he will feel that he is receiving the five essential
stuff like unconditional love, unconditional support,
validation, acknowledgement, love, right?
He will be able to like the kid.He will be able to change by

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time and they develop, right? Yeah.
And then tips for parents go back to your analogy about the
four tires on the car. What how do you do that
inventory? How?
How do you balance yourself out?Yeah, this is like based on
something in the psychology goldcalled Gelstadt psychology,
which is like we are like seeingthe person as a holistic like 4

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dimensions, physical, emotional,mental and spiritual.
Imagine that you have a flat tire on, on your car, like you
will not be able to go anywhere,right?
So from the physical perspective, if we as a parent,
we need to take care of ourselves, right?
So let me like have this perspective on ourselves first.

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So if I have like any vitamins deficiencies, B12, vitamin D,
anything related to my biochemistry, then I will not be
able to be like productive and happy, right?
So this is from the physical dimension, from the emotional
dimension, any emotional condition, sadness, grief,

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anger, guilt, shame, all of these five big negative emotions
will dwell me like down, taking me down, pulling me down and
will not be able to perform and be happy as well.
From the mental perspective, negative thoughts, negative

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belief system, I can do it. I'm not good enough.
All of this stuff will will affect me as well.
And it will be reflected on my my kids as well.
If I'm not content, I don't haveenergy, how I'm going to give
them energy as well. And from the spiritual
perspective, the how much I'm connected with my soul or maybe

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higher self or maybe my God, whatever you believe in, right?
So these are the four dimensionsaccording to Gelstad psychology.
And this is my philosophy and protocol when I'm like
approaching any case in my practice.
And then I want to hear about your practice, too, because
we've had a few men through the community that I know have gone

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through your doors. What does that look like?
What do you offer there? Yeah, I, I usually Ioffer the
the, the comprehensive tail or the protocol for anyone, like at
my practice, any case, it will go through screening and
scanning through like specific devices, non invasive.

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I learned this stuff. I, I was like very lucky to
learn all of these modalities from the inventors and from my
teachers. And after the screening and
scanning go with like cushionnaires or like non
invasive devices, medical devices.
Then we will make a tailored protocol working on the

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physical, emotional, mental and spiritual using almost maybe I
do have like 13 to 15 modalitiesto work on it.
So when somebody goes through the screening, is that where
you're checking like for their vitamin D levels and serotonin
levels and that kind of stuff like through blood work or?
Yeah, I, I because of my scientific background as a

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scientist like and the clinical body chemistry.
I don't want, I don't to do likeblood work.
There is another like modalitiesand like another medical devices
that can detect the tissue basedanalysis for the vitamins, for
the minerals, for the heavy metals.

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So for example, I, I, I found out that most of the EDD and the
ADHD cases like they have lead poisoning or like mercury
poisoning and we can see it in these devices and we can confirm
this like diagnosis by sending hair samples for the labs, for

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example. And then I do have also
something called electrophotonicimaging and quantum magnetic
resonance analyzers and non linear diagnostics.
All of these big names like giving me a a full perspective,
macro analysis and micro analysis to see is it is it

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really is like a physical issue or psychological issue Then I
will tailor my protocol accordingly.
With men specifically, do you ever go down the path of like
checking testosterone levels or or those types of things?
I know like a lot of a lot of men nowadays, the testosterone.
Levels low, which it gives me, yeah, My reports gives me an

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indication how these stuff are balanced or imbalanced, yeah.
You can do that protocol on guyslike Jamie and I, where the
car's doing 120 and one tires missing, the other one's a
donut. That one's got a bunch of curve.
That's a lot of adrenaline, yeah.
Good luck figuring that one. Yeah.

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And then talk to me a little bitabout the specific practices.
So the intake happens, you get that baseline, you're developing
A protocol. What are examples of some of
those protocols? So like a example for this one
of these protocols, we will workon the emotional psychotherapy
perspective when we will talk about give you an example.

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For example, I had like like a very successful engineer, like
architecture engineer and he came complaining about the panic
attacks and no one like had the chance to help him to overcome
this challenge when we were likedigging deep, everything is

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perfect, physically is perfect. His lab work is perfect.
Like my analysis is perfect. I asked him, tell me about your
childhood, how how was your relationship with your dad?
He told me it was amazing, very structured, very disciplined and
everything goes like going like in like checking the the box,

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right. And I asked him like, tell me
about any like situation when we've you felt emotional, any
emotional condition, you felt sad, you felt angry, you feel
you felt fearful. For example, he told me I, I
can't recall one event when I was young and I, I had a chance

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to have a lot of I, I loved the colors, coloring and I made a
big paint on the wall and I was like waiting for my dad to come
from work to show it to him. And when he his dad came Dad,
dad come. I want to show you something.

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And he showed his like a piece of art on the wall and guess
what? His dad was like so angry and
upset and he punished him. So in his subconscious, this kid
had a trauma and this trauma linked to like he wasn't
validated, he wasn't supported. He didn't learn anything from

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this event, right? Instead, his subconscious linked
the colouring and using any paint stuff that it is
punchable. So whenever his boss is coming
to ask him to do the like, yeah,the blueprints or the the

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drawings of any buildings, he got this panic attack if from
his subconscious because he's like his subconscious telling
him no, no, don't, don't do it. It's it's punchable.
We are going to have a lot of troubles when we work together
in this psychotherapy settings and like resolve with this

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issue. This is this is called the
unfinished business was he's dead and released this trauma
with his inner child. He started to like be well and
there was no like panic attacks anymore.
So this is an example for a tailored protocol, another

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protocol I had a lot of clients they had, I had a client with
osteoporosis, for example. So we were talking about the
screen and scanning, but we didn't talk about the treatment
tools I do have like the first and the only like bolted
electromagnetic field therapy with for infrared.

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This is helping like revitalization of the cellular
and tissue level, for example. So this is helping people with
fractures, helping people with osteoporosis, helping people
with pain as well. So this guy came, everything is
perfect in his lab work. Doctors don't know why he has

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like osteoporosis and his phosphorus, vitamin D, calcium,
every vitamin, everything is perfect, but they are perfect in
the, like the, the pool, the blood.
There is something challenging with assimilation.
So when we did the screening andscanning, I, I saw this stuff
and we when we started our protocol with the treatment

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tools, his, his osteoporosis parameters went very well.
Yeah, so they're not. His doctors could see all those
levels in the blood work and they look fine.
But when you do the tissue tests, it's not showing the
same. Yeah, it is totally different
because tissue based analysis istotally different than the blood
based analysis. And it it's helping a lot of

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people with accuracy of 80, like80 percent, 85%, which is good
enough to give me like a like a clear direction.
I feel like it'd be cool to go through that, that screening
process, but then I also feel like I'd be stuck there for
about 5 weeks going through the unfinished business part of it.
There's. The tires are coming.

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Out. Tires are coming.
Out. I could be there with an 18
Wheeler and I'd still be stuck there.
What's tell me about biofeedbackand neurofeedback?
Yeah, this is one of the biofeedback is like a like a
modality or a technology where like imagine that there is a
signal going to your body and it's would resonate with

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something and it will come back to the device.
This is as simple as that. So by the the most famous
biofeedback like modality is it's something called HRV heart
rate variability, which is like related to the pre thing.
And it's like this is one of themodality modalities that it help

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a lot in, in in the anxiety, emotional disorders like pain,
depression, BSTD, all of these stuff.
Biofeedback also one of the branches under the biofeedback
is in Eurofeedback was like quantum EEG, like the ECG and

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EEG, it is the same where we aredetecting frequencies from
certain parts of our brain and we are going to are correcting
these like this balance through something could do
photobiomedulation and there is like we are going to introduce

(31:39):
this very soon in our vocabularywave very soon, yeah.
Yeah, that's fascinating stuff. We're going to be following
along on that for sure. The other note I had was just a
question registered emotion focused therapist.
What does that mean? The Emotion focused therapy is

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established by Professor Liz LizGreenberg.
He's a very distinguished professor in the field of
psychology in York University. And I was like, very, very lucky
to was like to train under his umbrella and by himself.

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So in the psychology clinic and York University as it is a
branch was the emotional focusedtherapy.
And I, I finished my certification for level 1 and 2
and 3 to be a practitioner in this field.
This is my, my speciality. I'm dealing with emotions.
So if we are talking about the mental health and emotional

(32:45):
health, so according to the it'snot according to me, it's
according to the scientific evidence, like the research, the
emotional health in is in the core of the mental health.
So if you are talking about mental health, our like, Can you

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imagine that you have a hardwareand software?
So the hardware, the computer itself is like our brain, our
mental health, but the software without it you cannot do
anything. It's the emotional health, which
is the software of our like nervous system.

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So that's a very interesting subject because I learned you
remember the placebo effect, so.Jamie's still got an erection.
Yeah, so. Double placebo effects, so stop
taking. Them so there is something a

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very like long term in the in the medical field called the
cycle neuroendocrine immunology.Could you spell that, Chris?
Yeah, that no. Problem 2028 liters.
So the psychological status or the emotional status, emotions
means energy moving right? When we feel something we feel

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anger or fears. Why when we have any anxiety or
where is it goes to our stomach with butterflies.
Why it didn't go to my elbow? Why?
And this is related to the biofeedback because it has like
a certain frequencies we can detect it and it is resonating
with this part of our body. So anger is hitting liver, fears

(34:35):
hitting our kidneys and bladder.This is why we like we have
kids. Like you're scared you have to
go wetting. Yeah, wetting their pants when
they are in fears. Not just kids, Chris and I
happened. Our wives start yelling at us
but. I got scared.
I got scared, yeah. So the psychological status or
the our emotions, right, is likeaffecting our new rule, which is

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our nervous system and, and it will affect our endocrine
system, which is our hormones and glands and affecting our
immunity. So the psycho neuroendocrine
immunology when because of my scientific background, I, I, I,
I, I, I had a lot of experience in this field, but I was always,

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always stuck because, OK, what is the source?
Why my computer is burning? I, I started to dig deep and I
had to go to the school again tolearn this emotional
psychotherapy because this is a cord coming with the 500 volts
burning my computer. So I need to like, I cannot fix
my computer. Like when I fix it, it's like

(35:42):
burning again. And This is why the dealing with
emotions is very crucial for themental health because, and for
the physical health as well, because without dealing with
like the fears or anger or guiltor shame and all of these stuff,
it's like feeding, not feeding. It's like burning our like body

(36:05):
and organs with a lot of energy,right?
It it helped me a lot to to to help a lot of people and the
clients to overcome their psychosomatic diseases and
emotional congestion and disorders as well.
What you offer is really like, it's, it's, it's really next
level therapy because like most psychologists are only focused

(36:27):
on like the mental side of an emotional side of it.
But because you have such like adeep understanding on the
chemical side of stuff, it really does open up that door
where you can really dig a lot deeper and find a truer
understanding. Yes, yes indeed.
And I work with hearts. Yeah.
I there is like something calledmind heart like axis.

(36:49):
And there is a gut mind axis. So we have new results at our
hearts and we have also new results at our gut.
You remember when you are telling me I that's, that's my
gut feeling. Yeah, it is.
It is really true scientifically, but why I'm
focusing on our hearts, because our heart is more powerful than

(37:12):
our brain was 100,000 times electrically and 5000 times
magnetically. This is where our soul, right?
So our heart is like, like if you, if you tell me it's like my
mind is controlling my heart or heart my controlling my mind, I

(37:33):
will tell you your heart is controlling your mind more
powerful scientifically. And it's always the it's like
the software, right? And your brain is like the
processor, like processing and executing whatever you decide,
whatever you agree with, your soul or your second-half, Yeah.

(37:55):
It's fascinating stuff, and it'salso fascinating to me too, how
you are a man of science, but you're also a man of faith.
How do you balance those two? Yeah, I, I believe, I believe
like our soul is like playing a crucial role.
This is like, I don't know, there's like a, like a, it's
like a, not a 3D, it's like a 4D.

(38:17):
It is like a, there is somethinglike light or some connection.
It's like bringing a lot of insights into your brain, giving
you like guidance, protecting you, right.
I, I believe everybody had like the moment where there is like

(38:39):
external voice telling you, yeah, go for it or no, this is
not good for you. Do you agree?
Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah.
It's, I don't know your higher self, your Angel, your, but I, I
believe this strong faith is helping.

(38:59):
This is the spiritual dimension the the four wheels.
I guess like learning how to find that spiritual person
inside yourself, because like you said, you were probably 40
years old when you found it. And yes, that's, that's the,
that's, that's the tough part tolearn, right?
Yes. And it took me after 40, like it
took me two to three years in order to really like be like

(39:22):
established and strong in the inthe other field.
Like, yeah, stepping down from this one and investing in this
one and putting my hands on my life mission.
So would you say are you are youhappy now or still still not
there? That's a bit, this is the second
part of my question for yes, indeed, yeah.

(39:45):
Like I, I feel there is like happiness, like multidimensional
as we, as we said like before, but I feel more content, more
happy, like happier and yeah, yeah.
Yes, yeah. So on the spirituality piece,

(40:05):
like I, I've got a lot of friends that didn't grow up with
religion and it seems like religion is, is for a lot of
people, that's how they find spirituality, right?
That's how they find belief systems and, and look to those,
you know, whatever it is, other dimensions or other energies.
If you don't have religion, how do, how do you get into
spirituality? Or what do you think the

(40:26):
relationship between the two are?
From my personal like perspective, I, I believe this
spirituality is different than the religious is.
They are totally different. So yeah, they are
interconnected, but they are different.
So, and I, I don't know, I, I believe there is no religious

(40:50):
because I, I believe there is only one like God for everyone.
This is what I believe. There is no like different
religious because at the end we are connected to like one God.
So this is from the religious perspective, from the
spirituality perspective, it's, it's about how you are connected

(41:13):
with your soul. We have like, a lot of like,
strong young men, 20 years, 25 years, 30 years, but without
their soul is like a dead body, right?
Because you can believe in a religion, but that doesn't make
you spiritual, no. Right.
No, this is totally different dimensions.
Yeah. And I I love that you said that

(41:34):
the spirituality is is the within though.
The spirituality is you, right? Yes.
It's you and you. Think that's right and a lot of
people think that the spirituality piece is believing
in higher power or something external it doesn't need to be
no, it's. Believing in.
That that's a dimension. Yeah, the two, two different
dimensions. How would you coach somebody
into that that's new to the spirituality?

(41:57):
I'll use your analogy again thatthat corner of the vehicle like
how do you, how do you start to think about that?
And a very nice question. Thank you so much for that.
Usually I ask like people to go and sit in front of a mirror and
try to go inside. Wow.
Yeah, if you like, like put all of your attention and

(42:21):
concentration to go inside you and listen to this guy.
Clothed or naked? Yeah, because Jamie spent a lot
of time in front of a fucking. Mirror a lot of time because
you. Mind spiritually they feel
different things. I'm I'm talking about the other
part. Yeah, that's a good one.
OK, so you're sitting in front of a mirror, just you.

(42:41):
What do you think? You and you.
What's your give some coaching? I want a listener to try this.
So you're sitting in front of a mirror.
What are you thinking about? You're going to listen to your
inner self and usually it will be your like soul or maybe your
subconscious or maybe yourself critic.
But this is your second-half is your, your the bodyguard, your

(43:06):
soul usually telling you no, don't do it, you're not good
enough, you didn't do that, you didn't achieve.
It's like always, always keen about your safety, protecting
you and guiding you. And this is your, your soul.
And it is here. It's in your.

(43:29):
Heart sounds like a pretty good thing to be in tune with.
It's your. Soul telling you you don't need
that bag of chips? Go to the fucking gym at 7:00 in
the morning. Yeah, yeah, but it's not your
religion telling you that. You need to listen.
On the mental health side of things, we, we always ask guests
because we, you know, I believe that there's many ways to access
and, and take care of your mental health.

(43:51):
What are some tips that you would say, you know, broad
strokes just to start thinking about your mental health?
They're working on it. What?
What would you give for advice on that?
I need I, I want you to imagine that you are like trying to walk
forward in your life. And sometimes we feel stuck,

(44:12):
like you're putting a lot of efforts, you're putting the like
acceleration to the maximum, butit's, you are, you're not going
anywhere. So try to think that there might
be some chords hindering you to move forward in your life and
you need a very strong chords topull you into the future, right?

(44:35):
Or the happiness or whatever youare like aiming for.
So and in the court of the emotional health and mental
health is to put your hands on these courts.
It might be unfinished business,negative emotions or feelings
or, or like guilt, fears, anger,shame, intergenerational trauma.

(45:05):
Grandpa and grandpa used to abuse the physically, verbally,
the the parent and he's doing the same.
It's a pattern, right? Put your, your hands on the
chords. It might be physical, it might
be emotional, it might be intergenerational.
When you are going to free yourself from from these chords,

(45:28):
you are going to fly mentally and emotionally and physically.
How are how are you teaching people to like, because once
you've dug deeper and you find out what some of those issues
are, does just those people recognizing what those issues
are and talking about them help them or like how like what is

(45:48):
the treatment once you've, once you've found out like, all
right, like this person as a child was either abused or
whatever. It's a very nice exercise.
I ask all of the clients to do it.
I want you to imagine that like you are like a train and, and I
knew I, I want you to to draw your life train.

(46:10):
You started with one car when you were like one years old and
your car's started to build up. And while you are moving into
like with your life, some peoplewill come into your train, some
people will go down from your train and there will be a
different stations that your train will stop at it, right.

(46:33):
So this is one of the exercises that I, I want everybody to like
to draw it or to do it. Because when you at that
stations, there is something happen.
Maybe it's was like happening stuff, happy events.
Some people came into my dream, brought a lot of love,

(46:55):
blessings, right, support and maybe some in in other stations.
Some people they came into and brought some pain, right, and
was like some traumas, emotionalcondition.
So all of these stations are representing your feelings, your

(47:16):
emotions. What did you feel when you were
six years old when your dad brought a new basket buy a bike
for you? Oh, I felt great.
I felt appreciated, acknowledged, supported, loved.
Right. So when you will draw your life

(47:38):
train and the stations you will put your hands.
Where is the traumas came from? Where is the the the events that
made negative belief system? My teacher told me I'm I'm not

(48:00):
good enough. I, I had a case, she was a
professor and in math in the UNIhead of head of the department.
And she believes that she is notgood in math and like, OK.
Can you tell me more about it? I this is my belief about

(48:23):
myself. OK, can we dig deep?
Can we have our live train? Tell me about the station over
there. She told me that her mom used to
be a math teacher and she used to tell her you are bad in math,
you are a failure. So despite she was progressing
in her life and she achieved andshe is a professor of in like in

(48:46):
math and the head of department,but she still had this cord
connecting her to the station and the her telling couldn't
move forward. OK, stuck.
There is energy still there. So if you come free of your
suffer from these chords and andput your hands where you wanted

(49:10):
to pull yourself like you need like to be a spider man like put
this one on fly. So is it just you teaching her
to recognize that that was an issue and that that helps her
release? This was like unfinished
business with her mom and there was unmet need at that event.
If we can in the psychotherapy settings, we, we will work to

(49:34):
give her the unmet needs as in as like as a kid, not as an
adult. So if we have this inner child
is complaining. I, I, I needed support, I needed
acknowledgement, I needed love. I didn't had I didn't have the
chance to have these stuff at that moment.

(49:55):
So it's unfinished business withher mom.
Finish this unfinished business maybe by forgiving, maybe by
apologizing, by like there is a lot of like stuff we do at that
psychotherapy settings. Then she can flee from this
negative belief system which is like like I see it do.

(50:17):
You find that can also open up other doors that might take her,
take her down a deeper path. Like say, say the answer was she
was going to go back and talk toher mom and like look for more
acknowledgement and say hey, like this has been bothering me
for years, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But then that opens up a door where like the mom doesn't give
in and say hey, like, I apologize, I'm sorry for that.
And it goes the other way. Usually I ask the clients to

(50:39):
write a letter first because youneed to take the vapor out of
the like container. That's that that e-mail that
you're not going to send. No, no, no you will not.
No, no, never. So you are going to write a
letter, all of this emotional stuff.
What did you feel? Your childhood and your unmet
needs. And the second paragraph, you

(51:00):
are going to say thank you because it's not only negative
perspective, right? It's like a mix of different.
Thank you mom for doing 1212345.So when we are angry or sad for
something, we are focusing on these emotions.
We forget all about all of this stuff.
It might be 5%, but we because we are just seeing the nail in

(51:23):
this wall, right, only the nail like right I need was was this
practice. We can see the full picture like
she did some stuff, but not likeunintentionally to hurt us,
right. And thank you 123.

(51:44):
I'm sorry for 123 because this is a relationship.
It's like like receiving and giving and we yeah, and like a
closure. Now I understand I'm a parent
and I understand that you did your best efforts.
This is the best is that you youknew at that time and I really

(52:08):
appreciate it because no one is like 100% absolute perfect,
right? Not, not all of us. 99.
Percent. Yeah, Chris is.
But not everybody can be Chris. How do you so then looking
forward, those chords that pull you forward, like are you

(52:28):
talking about obviously you got to try and identify some that
might be existing, but then whatabout like visualization and
manifestation and how do you do that?
Yeah, that's amazing. So I would start with #1 to
screen my mental garden. It's like your backyard.

(52:51):
If you have a lot, a lot of weeds, you need to clean it up
before you do anything, right? So the first step is to screen
your mind garden to see if thereis any seeds was implanted from
the culture negative beliefs, dead mom, parents, whatever.

(53:12):
Because this is a, a perceptual screening, right?
You, it gives you that you're going to see the wallet through
these glasses and it's painted with a lot of perspectives and
perceptions. You, you already inherited from
the culture, from the parents, from the school, whatever the
social institutions, right? So scan your mind, garden, clean

(53:36):
it and started to put the seeds that you wanted to grow.
This is #1 #2 you need to put your hands on 4 dimensions.
What are your dreams and what are your smart objectives?

(53:56):
What is the difference dreams like?
I wanted to to go to the moon. I don't know how and when and I
don't know but this is one of mydreams.
But when I was like dreaming about the moon, I went to NASA
twice. By the way, I'm
enthusiastrology. I love it.

(54:17):
So I couldn't imagine when I wasa kid to go to NASA and touch
the stones from the moon and Mars and all of these stuff,
right? So one of my dreams to go to the
moon, I don't know how to do it and when maybe maybe in is not
in this lifetime it. It will be for, yeah.

(54:41):
But when I was a kid, there was no technology at that time to go
to Mars. Right now we have the
accessibility. So put your dreams, don't don't
think about how we are going to manifest it.
Keep it in your diary, the Golden Diary and then put your

(55:02):
smart objectives with smart means a specific measurable,
achievable and or attainable andrealistic and time bounded.
I want to achieve $1 million by end of 2025.
OK, your objectives and in the third part, what makes me happy

(55:24):
everyday, everyday write it down.
OK, I had a like a outing with my friends today.
We had a beer or whatever. I went to to the like a movie
with my kids. Like whatever happened today
made you happy. Write it down because you need
to use this list in your like down days, right?

(55:48):
And gratitude. Things we're thankful.
For one, 2/3 anything, anything that you are very grateful for
it at the end of today, just at the end of the day, I'm grateful
that I had a like a free cup of coffee today from one of my
friends, for example. So when we have the seeds and

(56:15):
this diary, you are going to work into your chords very
clear, right? So the smart objectives will be
translated. This the 5th part of your diary
plan of action. What, when, how and who $1
million by 2025. OK, I don't think I cannot like

(56:39):
rubber a bank, but I need to work harders.
What I'm going to do, I will do 1234 like short term, long term
and then I will execute the first thing that you can
manifest anything in your life just to to write it down.
This is the first step and you will do great.

(57:01):
So these are the chords. Yeah, I love that I think so
many people miss that write it down opportunity too, man.
I yeah, I don't know what this you probably have better
perspective than I do on it, butI'll tell you it's that, you
know, failing to plan is planning to fail mantra like if
you don't know what the plan is and you can't clearly articulate

(57:22):
it, put it down. That's man, that's powerful
stuff. And that becomes like I, I
believe in manifestation. I've had a few times where you
know, I've had through good grace and and hard work and
things come to fruition. But I can always point to the
time where I'm like, you know, Isaid that out loud.
Yeah. You know, I'll do a Connor
McDavid quote like he has a great one too, at at the end of

(57:44):
a fight where he called it. I mean, he had the whole
playbook down. And he said if you know, if
you're strong enough to see it here and you're brave enough to
speak it, it will become. And that that shit's real.
Yeah. It's, it's, it's always the
yeah, yeah. Like translating your, your
insights into like an action plan.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I like your example

(58:05):
of a golden diary too. That doesn't need to physically
be anything. I mean I usually carry a a
notebook around with me, but like usually black on your
phone. Back.
Not now. Kind of nice fancy new one.
Yeah. But that that is part of it too.
Like just just make the make thehabit of doing that.
And the other thing I want to touch on is gratitude.
And that's what a lot of people miss.

(58:26):
Yeah, I believe this is like bringing my eyes into somethings
that I, I, I need to, to, to seeit in my life.
It's not only challenges. Yeah, right.
So if, if and psychologically our brain always like trying to
put your attention into something wrong that you need to

(58:50):
fix it. Yeah.
So what are your? What are?
Your goals now like say, say next two years, next five years.
What are your goals now? Oh, that's interesting.
So continuing of my life, mission and passion to inspire
minds and warming hearts and energizing bodies.

(59:10):
This is my life I love. Energizing my body.
And my goal is like to expand mylike clinic and activities and
one of my dreams, 5 like 2 to three years.
I would like to, to establish like a platform or like an

(59:33):
institution where I can leave all of these sciences to the
next generation. So I need to share all of these
stuff because it's a blended, it's a separate dimensions of
the sciences. But because I, I, I had it like,
you know, one piece of like a protocol or like a science

(59:55):
platform. So I wanted to help people to
expand my my practice and bringing light into our life and
to establish the, the Academy. I'm I'm dreaming of the Royal
Academy of Life Sciences. That's amazing.
That's big goals. Thoughts become things, yeah.

(01:00:17):
Anybody listening? How do they connect with you?
You can Google my name Mustafa Hassan Burlington.
You can like EM clinic.ca. I'm in a different like
platforms like Psychology Today therapy route, all of the the
platforms that where practitioners, they have all of

(01:00:42):
the contact details EM clinic.ca.
Awesome. Yeah, we'll have Miles put all
that in the episode description as well, too.
You're also you're also one of the 12 pit crew on the capillary
wave. Yeah, mental health group as
well. He's my.
Owner. Yeah.
So that's that's huge. That's going to be a yeah,
largely growing. Yeah, I I believe we have a very

(01:01:03):
strong future to bring a lot of stuff into our communities.
And it's great that you're, you're putting the time into
that. Like we, we truly appreciate it.
Yeah, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Yeah, 100%. We have a couple questions.
You mind if I throw them at you before we go?
Yes, please. The first one we talked about
your father. We usually ask what's the best
advice your dad gave you? Oh, he gave me a lot of advice.

(01:01:29):
You need. OK, Only one.
Only one OK. What's the best?
Yeah, health. Take care of your health.
This was the best from him. Like even after my practice, I'm
a I'm a black belt karate and I'm a yeah, it's swimmer.

(01:01:52):
And he he he, he made me. So he was like, always take care
of your health and put your objectives in front of your
eyes. Which for you means a lot.
You know when when take care of your health is mentally,
emotionally, physically? Everything, yeah.
Spiritually, yeah. And then last, everybody's

(01:02:14):
favorite. Can you tell us a dad joke?
Oh, OK. Why the the did the bike bicycle
fall? What do you think?
Did the bicycle fall? Yeah, why?
Let's have it. Tell us.
Yeah. Because was too tired of.

(01:02:39):
Course it was. This hockey season, pick up
something to celebrate the puck drop.
Grab Wolf Glass Yellow Label, Cabernet Sauvignon now only 1795
at the LCBO. Why settle when you can soar
Wolf Blast Yellow Label. And closing out on that, I want
to say thanks one more time. Thank you so much.
Thanks for having you in the community and thanks.

(01:03:01):
For making the time. Thanks a lot.
Thanks for being on shit my dad taught me.
Yeah, Thank you. Awesome chat.
Yeah, Wishing you all the best, guys.
Thanks, man. Thank you.
Thank you.
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