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June 20, 2025 • 84 mins

This episode marks the podcast’s one year anniversary and to celebrate we are going to give plants some “main character energy”

What might emerge if we proceeded as though plants could grow us just as much as we grow them?  In what ways can Cannabis be a competent protector, and a companion for practicing consent in times of collapse?  How is the Cannabis industry “just like the Handmaid’s Tale” (which is to say it is actually just like slavery)?

Kristyn with a Why chats with her colleague, friend, and “garden witch” Kirsten about how working with plants can subvert the hyperindividualistic, human-centric narratives that are all-too-common in popular stories, and what can happen when we accept their invitation to grapple with the “cracks in the wall” they reveal to us.

0: Introduction/Episode Overview

9:56: Meet Kirsten

31:22: Cannabis, Consent, Compassionate Witnessing, Collapse, Camp Followers

56:16: Patriarchy in the Cannabis Industry

1:08:04: Stoner Somatics and Confronting “saviorism” with Psilocybin 

1:15:00: Outro, seeds for future pods and your own home garden!

Follow Kirsten on Instagram @tendingnettles 

Check out her seeds at https://www.goodseedhempgarden.com/

Follow the podcast on Substack & Instagram!

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Grateful for all the learning and inspiration in today’s episode:

Carmen Spagnola’s Numinous Network  and Numinous podcast on Collapse 

Friday Things with Stacey Lee Kong: Adriana Smith 

Sophie Strand’s books: “The Madonna Secret” and “Body is a Doorway”

Naomi Klein

Cannabis as a “Camp Follower” in Dale Pendell’s Pharmako/Poeia

Rat Park:  How cages create addiction

Liberation with Rev. angel Kyodo williams

As always:----------------------------------

Thankful for the musical inspiration for the theme song:

Hadestown by Anais Mitchell, specifically “Our Lady of the Underground” and Orpheus’ Song

“Hedwig’s Theme” by John Williams

Shout out for the artistic assistance of:

Matt Schubbe (Logo)

Kevin Carlow (Music and sound editing)

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