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October 6, 2025 36 mins

If selling your services has ever made you cringe, this conversation is about to change everything.

In this episode, Hailey sits down with Aleasha Bahr, creator of the Black Sheep Sales Method, to talk about what happens when you stop “selling” and start connecting. Aleasha’s fit-first approach turns pressure-filled sales calls into genuine, easy conversations, the kind that feel more like service than selling.

Together, they dive into:

  • Why traditional sales scripts fail intuitive founders
  • How to know when someone’s truly a fit (and when they’re not)
  • What to ask before a call so you stop wasting time on the wrong leads
  • How to handle pricing objections with curiosity, not defensiveness
  • The subtle mindset shifts that make your offers sound irresistible and aligned

This episode will help you reimagine what sales can look like when it’s rooted in empathy, honesty, and shared values, so you can grow your business without ever feeling “salesy.”

Listen now and discover how to sell like yourself, no scripts, no sleaze, just real connection.

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