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Taking distance from your ego
That you can see very clearly.
We are always into the past or into the future
But never into the present moment
Enjoying right now what I have
You start to think and to believe that you were
Just not enough for your parents
That then you become not enough for your friends
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If you know how to use it
Ego can be a very powerful tool to enjoy this life
When we see breathing
Meditation what it's gonna bring to me
But if you don't apply this in your daily life
It's just a moment of fake spiritual
I don't want to be a father
I want to be just myself with my kids
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I don't want to give them direction
I want to be just an inspiration for them
Start to feel everything and follow it through
This is for me about self confidence
Your future is now
The final result are not money
Money is just a consequence of this
All of us we want to be just happy
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Healthy and wealthy
Why we use alcohol
Smoking and many other drugs
Because we want help
We have no more energy
Because I never was
Thinking to become a shaman in my life come on
I will not do it
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So hello today
It's our podcast with Antonio Siano
And we will talk about everything
So the first question to Antonio is
Who is Antonio Siano
This is a very interesting question
Not only for me
But for everybody actually know that who I am
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Who am I? It's
The question that every human being want to know
And I like to say that my name is Antonio Siano
But this is not only what I am
So I am many other things
Because a human being can be of course
His name is his identity no
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Antonio so is my identity
Your surname is your family tree identity
Because we have a tradition
We have a story actually about our family
But actually we are not only this
We are much much more
And this is
The journey that every single person that
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Goes into the
Self development
Is the first question that you ask to yourself (02:45):
who am I?
And this is very interesting
Because everything from this question starts.
Exactly
And it's very trendy nowadays
A lot of people are very looking to
They are looking for the answer who am I
Totally totally
In order to do this
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We have very ancient tools coming from
All part of the world
With different cultures
An example
Meditation is one of these tools
And of course
It helps you
To get in balance in order to connect with something
Very deep that we forgot
That is our true essence
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That is the real you
What we want to discover
And especially for me
The most important part is
How to reconnect with this deep root of yourself
Your true essence
What you really are
Beyond your body and your mind, your ego
Let's say your ego
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Is it possible?
Absolutely yes
Yes
When we're born
Of course we are our body
Physical body
We are our mind
Our logical mind
And when I'm talking about a mind
I'm talking about even our personality
Or personalities
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It depend of course
But we are not all this
We are even our spirit
Soul as you wish to call it
That is a let's say
Our deep connection with cosmos, universe
We are not talking about religion
We are talking about
Something that
It's beyond our body and our mind again
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So how to reconnect with this
Of course there are a lot of tools
And my path actually started from a very simple thing
Breathing yeah
I recognized that I was not breathing well
How did you recognize it?
Actually I recognized
Because somebody
One day (04:49):
I was
Doing my job in my office
And one person came to me and
Says (04:57):
Antonio
Are you not feeling well?
And I replied (05:00):
no
I'm feeling very good, why?
Oh because you are breathing very fast!
I was breathing
I was nervous
I was in stress
But I was not aware of,
That's the point!
And so, when something happened in my life
That I was really very down in that moment
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In a very difficult moment of my life
Financially,
Personally, from every point of view
I just understood that if I want to really start again
To leave fully,
The only way was to start from scratch.
So my question was to myself (05:39):
what is..
What was the first thing that I did when I was born?
It's breathing.
This is the first breath
Is the first injection of life in your body,
Right?
When the baby is coming to this world
Exactly
First is
And then cry
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Exactly and that's for me
The first thing that a human being does.
So and i asked just to myself (06:05):
how I can breathe better?
So in order to understand how I am breathing
Because the aware
Awareness to how you are breathing
It's putting you
In a way that you have to focus on your breathing
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When usually we don't, right?
So I started
Doing it. Okay
Let's let me focus on my breathing
But in 30 second
My mind start to chat.
It's like on meditation when you start
Exactly
You start to read
But then you
Just go somewhere
You start to think or
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You want to sleep
You want to lay down or your mind says like
What a "***k"? Justo go an do it!
Exactly
Exactly exactly
This is the point of
Distracting
Distracting yourself.
And this is very common actually
Because you are distracted from things that
You are doing in your job
In your daily life
You don't have time
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You don't have time
Or your mind is so strong
Because you are thinking just about your problems, right?
And you are thinking about your past or your future
But you are never here and now
That's the point of breathing technique
Because put you in the here and now
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In the present moment
This is the key
Of everything
And we will talk later because it's connected
Even about abundance!
It is one of the topic that we want to talk about
To be here and now
Because starting from now
You can create new things in your life
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If you are with your mind
In your past
You will only be a victim of your past
If you are thinking only about your future
You will be in expectation and you'll try to control
Always stress
How the future will develop
And this is not working
That's the point of
The main point of all this journey
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But you know yeah
I hear in every place
The psychologist
The people mentors
They always saying about here and now
But actually
What does it mean?
It's a very
Like easy to say
But how it feels
What is this?
And why it's so important?
Absolutely this is a very interesting question
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Because sometimes it's a misunderstood
What does it mean to be here now
how to be here?
Especially
Okay 'm here right now and now
So what?
Yes
So what?
this isthe main question
so what?
Actually coming back to my path
I started to do this with breathing technique
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And I just felt...
The first time that I reached
One minute that I can focus
Just on my breathing
How the air was entering in my nose
How the air was in my
Body going
How is coming out the air
For one minute for me
Was very successful one minute
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Because
I stopped to chat
I was just asking to myself okay
It's working one minute
Now what?
I just felt a little bit more relaxed
And for me at that time
Was the best, you know?
My day was a little bit less stress
And especially I can see
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Things from a different perspective
So not thinking only that are all problem
And all around you that are only
Difficult situations
But okay there are situation,
that
Maybe I can work on
And try to solve it
Going ahead
Of course it was more five minutes
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Ten minutes
I was feeling always
More balanced
More clear and whatever was the situation
I can manage it
I was feeling confident that I can
Whatever is
Your daily life
You can manage it
In the right way
Without not going into the stress
But to see things as they are
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It's not a problem
It's just a situation
Now if you focus on that
You can manage it
And you can overcome
That situation
You can overcome that situation
In order to share your experience
Think about Diyara before the first retreat
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And think about Diyara now
How you can describe before and after?
Diyara
Who was and who is now?
Before the first retreat
I was feeling that
I tried a lot of things from psychology
From esoterics
A lot of coaches
A lot of techniques
And in some point I just lost
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It was, like I did everything
And if everything is good and I understand the traumas
And I'm doing the questioning for myself
But something is missing
I don't understand why
I didn't feel the feeling of fulfillment of
Everything that I'm doing
And in some point I started to discover
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I didn't discover
Just really the medicine came to my life just
In the moment that I really
Wanted something new and now
During this journey
I really
Understand that now I'm leaving my life
My dream life
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That everything that I wanted and
How I feel myself every day
How I react to the things
Even how I can manifest my wishes
How I understand now
That every thought
That is on my mind
Is very important
It's very good and
It's very important to manage
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And you start to manage
And then you see
That you are really
Creating your life
Now I'm creating my life
I don't have the words
That something is
Punishing me
Why I have this destiny?
I know that
I'm creating everything
By myself
And I'm creator of my life
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Can you share a bit more about your
Journey that you started from breathing and
Which point you came?
What you did?
Who you were before?
About your life experience
Because I think for all people
It's very interesting about who you are
What you do in the daily life?
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Let's start from this moment of my life
Because of course
It was a moment when
I had big company and everything fell down
For some reason that
Now I know what was the reason of all these
But in that moment
I lost everything
I reached the
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Very high place in society and financially
And everything was going very well
But in certain point
I lost everything
And when I'm seeing everything
I'm seeing every single penny you know
Every single moment and not
Not only even personally
That there was going on
Something in my family and
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With friends
So I was really lost
Was it long time ago?
Actually it was
More than 10 years ago
And that was
The moment
When I was very
Near to
End my life
Because I was not seeing
Any more a meaning to this life
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And I said okay
Maybe it's time
For me to go
From this word.
But then I recognized
That it was even not true
Because
I love to live
And so that's why
I started to understand that okay
This is just my mind saying that okay
Life is ended
But it's not
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Because I have family
And I want to see my kids growing
And that's why, they were (my kids) of course
One of my inspiration on this
Well the most important
Inspiration on this
And I just says okay
So what are right now
My priorities in my life?
Family of course
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Money is very important
So one of these is family
The first one
Money and so on and so on
But before
I understood that
If I want to live this
Fully aware with my family
With my kids,
I need to work on myself
Because I was
Really in a bad moment of my life
I cannot concentrate,
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I was very nervous,
Always thinking bad things
And that's why I started to
To breathe in this way.
I want just to start from scratch.
Let's start from scratch!
Like a new company:
When you start a new idea,
You have the idea
And you want just to develop that idea
And was developing
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After breathing technique.
I start to read a lot of book
Of self development
Very inspiring for me
And many of them still are in my life.
I start to even to
Focus on
My passion about science
That is neuroscience
And quantum physics
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Just to because I have
A part of me
Very spiritual
But a part very logical
So I want just to put
The pieces of this puzzle together.
It's perfect match
Actually for me
It's working.
Yeah actually yes
It's working
After a while
I just felt that was for me
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A moment to
Experience something different
Not different
I just asked:
I remember I was
Walking with
My wife
And we were walking
I told her (16:20):
"you know
I'd like really to know
What is a shaman?"
And she told me (16:25):
"oh
You can go to Peru
Brazil this part
And I don't know
To have an experience
To meet some shaman."
And actually she's not in this
I don't know how it coming
What was coming out from her
Anyway I went back immediately to my house
I googled it
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And cames out really a word:
This word is Ayahuasca.
Wow!
I just read the first
Line and is like...
oh stop it
I was immediately thinking:
No
This can scare me.
But I felt the call
And that's the moment
When I had my experience
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With Ayahuasca.
I just found that this for me was a tool.
I never had any kind of experience of
Drug experience in my life,
So I was a little bit scared about that
But actually
I immediately understood that this was
Nothing to do with just a trip
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To go somewhere
Just to have fun.
No!
It's a tool to reconnect
With your true essence
And that helped me a lot
Because even my meditation,
(I was doing a lot of meditation)
But my meditation speed up really a lot.
Because I Learned a lot
From one session of Ayahuasca.
For me was one session like 10 years of reading book
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Psychologist or even meditation was one night
Yeah sure
It was the start of my path as a participant.
I was very
committed in this because
I understood that
Was a very good tool for me.
I never imagined that this tool will become
Part of my life as all natural of medicines,
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Shamanic medicines.
Because I didn't know
What was really this word
About shaman's.
I was just thinking that
The shaman is somebody
Into the jungle
Doing something
I don't know what.
Sometimes even
I don't care
I'm even scared from this.
But actually
When I start to see that
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If you look from another perspective
This tool and now even the science knows very well
That many of these tools,
Like also marijuana,
Like Psilocybin, can really help the human being
In a different way.
We are not talking about trips or whatever,
We are talking about
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Something very healthy
Even for yourself.
Because these tools are
Working on four levels:
So the mental level,
The physical level,
The emotional level,
And the spiritual level.
When an example we take a pill for something,
Thank you
That we have this help,
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But they work only on one point.
Physical.
An example the physical or the mental or whatever.
And they have a lot of collateral effects, right?
That's why you have to be very aware
What kind of pills are you taking, for what.
It's a different way to work.
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Natural medicines,
Wherever they are
And I'm not talking all these powerful medicines,
I'm talking even
Just if you took ginger
They work on these four levels.
I understood that
So actually
Even in my life
I changed everything.
I don't use
Since more than 10 years
Chemical pills.
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I try to be
As much natural as possible for now.
Science helps!
I'm not saying that
Chemical medicine are not good
Absolutely not
I'm just saying that I integrated in my life
As much as possible
Natural things.
Because if you
Know how to use it,
They works.
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Of course it
Needs little bit more time
But they works very well.
Yeah this was the start of my shamanic path
Yeah very interesting
And you know
When a lot of people
Hear about Ayahuasca
The first
That come to their mind
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It's like nightmare, it's dark
It's a trip.
Is it true?
Actually all the shamanic remedies,
When you go to a shaman
And whatever is the
Shamanic remedy
They are using,
Because these are
Actually what I know,
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But there are many others
All around the world.
Actually. Natural.
I'm talking about natural things
To help people to heal physically
Mentally and
Spiritual and emotional of course.
All of them
It's related to
To you. What you are really now.
And we are the total of our
Life experience from zero
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To now, right?
So all these experience
Are what are creating in
Our self,
Some logical pattern.
Let me do an example,
A very simple example (21:36):
money.
What is money, right?
People struggle to have money,
People struggle to reach something.
The question is (21:47):
why?
What you want from money?
I don't know to
Live the life
It's like an instrument
To reach the thing that you want.
For example:
Some people want to travel;
Some of them want to buy some houses.
I think actually
Depends on the purpose
Some people just want to show everything
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And some of them
They just like in the video game
They want to...
Just to make comfortable life
For their Avatar as a soul.
This already is something
More spiritual
But we will go deep.
But usually people
Want money because
They compare themselves to
The society
Yeah
That are the social conditioning:
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If I don't have the
Beautiful T-shirt
With the beautiful brand
I'm nobody. Right?
Because this is
The social conditioning.
Our system right now is working in this way.
And of course
Sometimes it's nice to have something
Of a good quality.
The question is always (22:47):
why?
I want that?
Because I want to be like the others?
Because I want to
Show that I can do
Something even better than
The others?
When the
The point is just about
To show something
Or to be like the others,
This is the
Problem actually.
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And money became
Struggling.
So
More you have money
More you want,
Because you are into
To show that
I can buy a Lamborghini
Or I can buy a big house
Just to show.
When you are
Into spiritual or you are
Getting in connection with yourself,
The question is not (23:26):
why?
It is (23:29):
what I want to experience?
What kind of emotion
I want to experience?
Right?
Going down
Down deep..
Okay
I want a big house
An example because
This big house
Can represent more
Comfort for me
And it is already
Because you
Are in a journey
Otherwise many
People wants big house
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Because they want to show
That they can buy whatever they want,
And when their
Friend will come
They become
Very jealous.
This is ego,
Totally ego.
And that's why I created a technique actually.
Because for me
The most important things is that
All these shamanic remedies
Helps you to show
What you are
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Right now as
Ego (let me say)
The part of the ego,
But then even to show what
You are truly
So your true essence
The point is
That for me
Was missing in this journey,
It was the point
To connect this,
With your logical mind.
How can I really
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Understand what,
An example these tools
Like Ayahuasca or others,
Are saying to me
Are teaching to me?
Because they
Use a different
Language from
The human language.
They use signs,
Visions, sometimes
Feelings in
Your body, healing
And if you don't
Understand this
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If you don't know how to
Work this with yourself
Can be quite hard.
That's why in time
I met many masters
In my life, I met
One very interesting
Person in my life
That was doing
With an organization
Retreats around
Especially in Europe
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But not only,
And it was using
A kind of integration
After the
Experience, of a
Shamanic experience.
It was like an integration,
That is not
Just to share
Your experience
But to go deeper
To understand
What you wear
Living actually,
What does it mean for you
And now you connect this
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With some logical pattern that
You don't want
Anymore in your life, right?
I used this as an inspiration.
Right now I do this as...
I call this:
Ego-transcendence practice.
What does it mean?
I'm doing the question
Myself. :))))
I just
Want to ask
The question about you
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Are reading from
My mind directly.
I just can't stand and go.
I'm joking.
Ego-transcendence practice
Means that, with practice
Of course and exercises and many things together,
I use a lot of science in order to help
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People to understand what is happening to you
Even in your body
In your brain
And not only.
Even energetically,
But from the scientific point of view
Is the
Way that
You take distance from your main identity
That we call (26:29):
ego.
An example if you are a person that in life
You feel victim of the life:
"why this is happening always to me?".
"why I don't have money?".
"why I cannot find a good partner?".
(Main question of everyone).
Exactly
This is the Ego talking.
What some enlighted person still now are talking about
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The monkey mind that is always talking within yourself.
Chatting chatting...
How to stop this?
And when you stop,
How to see from outside and take distance from this?
As observer?
As observer, exactly.
It's very easy to say
But there is a journey in order
To get there, right?
(27:11):
for me
Even the meaning of this podcast is to share,
How to reach this?
What is (27:18):
"taking distance from your ego?".
That you can see very clearly
That your mind right now,
Has start to think that you have no money
And you cannot buy that and wow
And the struggling and the stress.
Or your mind is going into the past.
So (27:35):
why my mother
Why my father told me this
And now my life is very difficult life?
We are always in this.
We are always into the past or into the future
But never into the present moment.
Enjoying right
Now what I have.
And of course
Working with yourself
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In balance, to see that right now
Yeah there are situation that you want to improve.
Yeah, they were some mistakes in past.
They were some difficult moment of your life.
More or less
For each one of us
Whatever was your
Trauma child
From your point of view
It's always the most important in the world, right?
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For the best?
No no I'm saying
If an example
For a person
Maybe you lost your parents, okay?
And it's difficult of course.
For another person
Just because your mother was saying that
You need to be a very good wife in your life
This can be a very strong childhood trauma.
So there are no more important
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Childhood traumas,
Because from your perspective
Is always the worst.
What happened in your life, right?
You have always special traumas.
Exactly, exactly.
You're the unique one.
And the point is that you have to reconnect with that
Childhood trauma
To understand that actually
They doesn't exist anymore.
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They were, yeah right.
Based on that
You created your personality.
From that moment
You start to think and to believe that you were
Just not enough for your parents,
Then you become not enough for your friends,
Then you will become not enough for your family,
For your partner,
And so on, and so on.
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In your job
You are not enough
And you will continue to
To do to do
To do.
This pattern to confirm again and again?
Exactly to confirm that pattern.
Exactly words.
That's the point
How to stop this?
That was my question.
How can I stop this?
Why I lost everything?
I was so successful from my point of view
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And I lost everything.
What was my mistake?
What did they do?
God, why are you punishing me?
That were my question.
But even this question,
I recognized that they were from ego.
Antonio,
Is it bad nowadays
It's this kind of opinion that
Ego is very bad
Part of the people
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And you need to get rid of the ego.
What do you think?
What do you think about ego?
And if it's true,
Is it possible to live without ego at all?
Very interesting question.
For me ego is not absolutely an enemy.
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Ego is a tool.
Ego can become,
Can become your tool,
Without identification into the ego.
Because when you discover really,
You remember actually.
Because we already know what we really are.
Our true essence,
Let's say our soul.
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We already know this deep in ourselves.
But we became the identification of this ego.
So, we start to act
As an actor with this Avatar
With this personality.
And, that's the problem
Because you get identified in it.
It becomes like a mask, that
Become attached to your face
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And when you look yourself into the mirror
You're not looking the true self,
You're looking the mask.
And that's a problem.
For me ego become a tool.
If you know how to use it,
Ego can be a very powerful tool to enjoy this life.
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Because you can become in your life..
You are already many things in your life.
You can be a mother or father,
A daughter or son,
You are grandchildren,
You are a business person or your job,
You can be a dancer,
A musician, many,
Many things.
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If you know
How to manage your ego
Without going
Into of any of
These identification of your roles
In the life,
You can become whatever you want.
You can became even a shaman.
That was my discovery
Because I never was
Thinking to become a shaman in my life.
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Come on!
I will not do it
...these things
When you decide to become a shaman?
In which point?
Did you understand it
From the first
Retreat, that you went for Ayahausca?
What was the journey?
When was this point?
Well actually,
You don't decide to become something.
The point is that you can decide
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To experience something.
And this is for all
Roles in our life.
If you try to decide:
I want to be that in my life,
(again going to the future)
Again going into the pattern, into the future.
You are not leaving the present moment.
So the question is:
What are you feeling right now?
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And actually happend naturally
Because I was starting to collaborating
With some shamans.
And I was enjoying it.
And I see very clearly, for me,
That staying near,
An example, the shaman
Collaborating with him
And helping other participants,
Was even more powerful than be just a participant.
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That's the point how I started.
And then of course
Things get natural.
I saw very clear that even for me
The word shaman has no meaning before,
But I was born like this.
For real!
When I was even a kid,
I already was feeling many things.
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As all of us.
Yes
This sensitivity thing.
But what we do?
Because we are scared of this part of us
And it's sometimes even not accepted
Into religion
Into society,
We just put this in a corner.
And this is a problem.
This is the moment when we close the door to our soul.
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And this tool
Helps you to open that door.
What you want to do?
It's up to you.
It's not up to the shaman.
It's not up to
The natural medicine that you are working with.
That's why they are just tools.
Like meditation.
You can do whatever meditation you want
But if you don't apply this in your daily life
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It's just a moment of fake spiritual.
"yeah
I'm doing meditation,
I'm very good at doing meditation.".
Okay
How is your life?
"Not so good".
So, you are not applying
What you are learning through meditation.
That's the point and for me
This was always the key.
I don't care
To be a shaman.. Still!
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I don't care to be a shaman.
I only care because this tool,
That is to be a shaman,
It's helping me in my daily life.
When I go back to my house
I'm in harmony with myself
With my family
With my kids.
I don't want to be a father,
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I want to be just myself,
With my kids.
They can see
Even the man.
Not only a father.
I don't want to give them directions.
I want to be just an inspiration for them.
And that's for me the
Point of mastering yourself.
When you get in connection
With your soul,
You'll see very clearly
That you will meet a lot of masters.
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Everyone in your life are masters.
You can see it very clearly that
You have your inner master.
Which is your soul.
Always guiding you.
If you trust in yourself.
How many times,
An example, in your life
Happens that
You trusted in yourself
In your gut
It was just like an intuition?
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Yeah
Sometimes
This kind of feelings
And now because I'm also
On the way of my journey
So it's happening more and more
More and more
And because of this
The self confident is coming more.
I start to trust myself
And it's very
Very beautiful
Inner feeling.
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And just to go into that.
An example
For you:
What does it mean to trust in yourself?
For me it's the point
That everything that is coming to my mind
And I feel that this is not
Just something that I want to do something bad
Or just it comes
And I'm following it
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Not thinking how I was thinking before
Don't do this because you will maybe
Distract the person or maybe hurt or something like
Let me say,
***k thoughts are coming
And in some way
On some ceremony
I understood that this is part of my ego
That is all the time holding me.
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It's part of my
Some patterns from childhood that I felt.
And in some point
I started just to follow
This inner voice that is true one.
And you just follow.
And then you understand that
This was the best choice.
Because the persons says (37:05):
"oh
I really wanted these."
Just to
Start to feel everything and follow it truly.
This is for me about self confidence.
And that you trusted the thing that you want,
It really will happen.
You just go without any result
Without any expectation
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You just go because you want.
That's very interesting because
I'm working with different kind of people and
Different culture too,
Because I go around in many countries
And actually
I start to work even with some
Let's say celebrity or
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Important person,
Sometimes political or
Financially
Very wealthy person.
And it's very interesting because when I ask an example
To a business person:
"how you know
If this deal will be really good for you,
And you will do something with this
Business?". An example.
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And a business person knows very well.
Because everybody are always replying (38:09):
"actually
I don't think about it, you know,
To do money or whatever.
I just know that what I'm doing
I like to do this
And will become successful."
That is your instinct,
Your gut.
As an example
When you follow yourself
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And I don't know
You are in an environment that
You just express yourself with dance
Let's say.
And you start to dance
You have to way:
One thinking that
You need to dance very well
Because people can say (38:42):
"oh
You are dancing very well!".
And this is to show something
The other (way) is just to enjoy.
To enjoy your body.
To feel that you are
Fulfilling something within yourself.
And that's the connection with the soul.
When you are
Just hearing
The inner voice to say (39:01):
"move!
And enjoy how you are dancing
Don't think about the others
Don't think
If it's correct
Or if it's right or wrong
The moment that you are doing
Just enjoy and let it go."
That's to be in the present moment.
Because you are not thinking:
Environment.
You are not thinking (39:20):
"oh,
I started dancing in my past
Or I want to become
A very good dancer.".
No, you are just here now
Enjoying this moment.
You don't know what it can be.
Maybe one day
You will be
A very good dancer
Or maybe not.
At the end you lived
This moment.
That's the following of your
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Inner voice.
And more you do this
And more you will
Acquire self
Confidence in yourself.
(trust inner voice).
The self trust
Is something that
We use always
Less and less
When we are into the
Identification of the ego.
But, when you detach from this
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You see very clear:
"oh, now I'm thinking
That I'm not good to dance,
Because my mother
My father
(then you can go deeper)
Told me that all
You have to be very good at dance
Blah blah blah
Blah blah blah
Blah blah blah..".
That's the point.
When you detach from this
You see that
Actually now
You have this pattern
But now you can enjoy.
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Because even
Thank you to
Some of these
Things that happens in your past,
You are what
You are right now.
And from now on
You can improve yourself
Always just thinking now.
Here and now.
In the present moment.
Starting from now.
You don't know the future.
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I was thinking about this question
You say that here and
Now
And don't think about the future.
How we gonna leave
If we only think about
Here and now?
I will speak about me.
I want some desires
I have some plans
Some dreams
Some wishes.
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Do I need to
Don't think about my
Future plans
And leave only here and now
Or how it connects
About the future
Thing that you want?
Do I need to make any plans?
Desires are very good,
Actually.
The identification into
The desires are not.
Because start
Expectations.
So, what does it mean?
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An example, let's say that
You want to make
A career
In your job.
And of course
It's important that
You can say okay
I'm committed
To reach this point in my life
I want to build a
New company
I have this idea
And you want to reach this.
First of all
Is very important:
Why you want
That.
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Again,
The why is very important.
The main seat.
Exactly because
If it's just because
Your parents told you
That the only way is to
Build your company
If you want to reach something in your life
You have to do this
This this this
You are not following your
True essence.
You are following
Your parents' thoughts.
Right?
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And that's
Why we don't like it.
Sometimes
It's good advice from
Our parents of course
Are not only
Bad advices.
Luckily for us.
They are trying to give us
Always the best possibilities.
But sometimes
The best possibility
It's what they think that it's.
But it's not
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Our best possibilities
Let's say that
You want to build
The company
And your parents
Usually they told (42:34):
"no,
No, you have to work
For a company,
It's more stable
It's more
Sure that you will
Have your salary
At the end of the month.".
And this is The system, right?
(stability of "old system")
Exactly
But you want to build something
For yourself.
And you want to follow that.
Why?
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What is the point of this?
Many people
Can reply from ego:
"because I want to become rich".
Okay I will
Ask you (43:02):
why
You want to become rich?
Again what is
The main point of this?
Are just to show that
You can do and
You want to show to
Your parents
You see
(to prove to parents)
To prove something
This will go
Not in the right way
Because you
Are following
Actually the normal pattern.
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If you are doing this
Because you feel
That you are doing
That is fulfilling you
You feel well
Doing that business
And example
That project,
You feel complete,
You feel fulfill.
That's why you want to do.
Because you want to be
One with yourself.
And you know
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There is a moment of intuition
When you can feel in
Your body that
You are so happy
Even there is nothing
It's just a project
But you feel (43:50):
"wow,
This can work!".
It means that
You are listening yourself.
That's the moment!
Don't give up.
That sensation is
Very important,
Because it's not about
Your logical mind,
It's about your
Emotions.
Emotions
Are the door
For our soul.
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It's not the logical pattern.
It's not working.
And now even the psychology
The modern psychology knows very well.
If you work only with your mind
Doesn't work.
You have to work with your body,
Your emotions and your spirit.
You have to connect everything.
That's why this
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Natural medicine are so powerful.
Because they work on the four levels.
That's the point.
So, you want to reach something in your life?
You want to reach and is very nice to have desire.
You can have your own vision, right?
You don't need actually tools to have visions.
Because we all have visions sometimes during the dreams,
Sometimes during the day when something (44:51):
"wow,
You know?"
- the moment of into the intuition -
"..you know? I can do that!".
And more you think about that
And more you are feeling excited happy,
Well, self confident.
In that moment actually,
You already are doing.
It's already done.
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And I like to say this because
I'm calling my online course:
Your Future Is Now.
Because your future start from now.
It's very interesting name because everything that
You talked really can resume in one word
That is the name of online course.
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Exactly
Yeah, so cool.
When you're thinking that way,
Of course desire are important,
Plans are important, because for me plan is
A way to have an aware discipline on yourself.
This is the most important thing.
What all the masters from
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The ancient time, thousands of years ago were teaching us
Is the self discipline.
What does it means?
Because discipline sometimes
Can be misunderstood with military discipline
Or our normal way to think about discipline.
To push yourself,
To be hard on yourself.
Absolutely not!
To take care of yourself.
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And what does it mean to take care of yourself?
If an example
You are doing meditation, right?
And you are doing your morning meditation
Ten minutes morning's meditation,
Do it every single day.
Never give up.
Never.
Don't miss one day.
Especially, if you more
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You do this, more
You will see the benefits of this.
Because there are a lot of benefits.
Even for 10 minutes meditation in the morning.
That's why an example I'm sharing,
Even in the online course,
10 minutes morning's meditation.
Because it's very important to continue
To work always on yourself.
And especially,
To have a special moment just for yourself.
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Ten minutes.
All of us has to do,
You know, something in them life,
But there is a sacred moment for us
That is even during the sleep moment.
This is very sacred.
This is a moment when you relax your mind,
You relax your body
And you getting
Connection with your true essence
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That's the point.
After you will be very recharged
And focus on what you have to do.
Discipline.
This is the self discipline.
Never miss.
People that, an example, does fitness
They are very in self discipline about that
But then maybe another area of them life:
"okay,
No I don't care".
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No.
You have to take care of everything.
So, if you want to build,
An example,
A business, let's say,
And you want to have
Abbundance in your life,
You cannot think about lackness, right?
You have to focus
On the abundance of the present moment.
So, an example:
Ideas are flowing.
Take a journal
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Put down all your ideas, right?
Do a list of what you want to to do.
What you want to reach, okay?
When you do this
Please don't forget
Every day to
Look again this list.
Because it will change,
Because you are changing every moment.
Okay?
Self discipline!
This is to have a desire
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And to work on
That desire in order to achieve it.
Remember that desire,
The final result are not money.
Money is just a consequence of this.
The final result is
That you can see very clearly
That when you reach one day
You will reach that
Moment when
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Business is successful is working
Everything is exactly
What you were feeling the first time,
That you had the first idea.
Do you remember?
And you will see yourself there,
In years or months
Let's say, exactly with the same feeling.
That's the goal.
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All the other things
Are just consequences, like money.
More you will go into that
And more
The abundance, the flow abundance,
It's not stopped from fears, from anger,
From self doubts
And whatever.
That's the point.
And in order to do this
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You have to balance yourself.
You have to work on your body,
Balance yourself,
Doing the right
Breathing technique;
Working on your past;
Trying to let it go,
Whatever is stopping you.
And that's why for me
Shamanic journey
And with shamanic remedies are so powerful
Because they can really help,
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But it's not the only one
It's just a tool.
Or yoga.
There are many tools.
We have everything
In this reality,
That can help us
To reach this.
But the first idea,
The first you know sparkle,
It's already done.
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And you know it very well.
That's why the question to
Successful persons
Financially or
I don't know
In many other areas
Like celebrities,
That they reach something,
I ask always:
When the first time
That you had
That thought,
What you were thinking?
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Most of them,
They were thinking exactly
What they are experiencing now.
Maybe 10 years ago,
20 years ago.
They were just following themself.
Don't taking care of the others:
"oh, don't do this. No,
This is not a good business.."
"no you cannot be a singer..
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Or you cannot
Be these or these or these.."
No.
They were just going forward
Feeling and following them
Gut.
We say gut
Or heart.
That's the point.
To follow yourself to feel fulfilled.
Let's talk more
About shamanic medicines.
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Do have some from your journey like shaman,
Do you have some cases or maybe some very
One amazing case that you're really,
Let me say, proud
Of the result or something like this?
Can you share something?
Well, actually
I think that all people
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That starts
This journey of self development,
Passing through
Even the shamanic experience
They can say
A lot of things.
Because it's not just one.
And I had of course,
Hundreds of people in these years
Around the world,
So, of different culture,
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Different religion,
Different political conditioning.
And for me every time is different
And I have a lot of cases, of course.
What I can tell you
Is that most of them
After these kind of experiences,
They start
To be just more themselves.
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I saw a lot of people
After the retreat, that
They start to paint,
To sing,
(to sing)
To play guitar or
Other instruments,
To write.
To be just more themself.
To start to express themself.
One (case study) it is coming
Actually to me,
It's a person that
(52:37):
I met here in this country,
And this person
Was very closed person.
A woman.
And when you
Were looking at her,
She was always like angry.
Not angry.
During the work that we did together
And it was not only
About the medicine,
The shamanic medicine,
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Exactly more into the
Ego-trascendent practice,
That I do
During the retreat,
She starts to get something.
And she
Starts to laugh,
First of all.
And this was the first breakthrough.
But one day I told to this person:
"do you like music,
Right?"
"yeah, actually
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I was playing the guitar".
And I did a joke with this person.
I just took
The guitar and give to her:
"please play it,
Play for us".
And she start to play very nice.
And from that moment she opened.
She understood.
That's even my personal journey.
I was not playing any more guitar,
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Instruments,
Because I was
Into the business, money
And to reach these.
These become creativity
And creativity is something,
You know,
It's part of ..
(wasting time)
Wasting time, exactly.
But actually no.
They are our way
To reconnect
With our inner child,
With our soul.
So, at the end
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Right now, after some months
I can tell that
This person is still
Continuing to play the guitar.
And she's just enjoying her life.
It's not different.
She's doing the same job
And the same things during the day
And I asked her:
"so, what did changed?"
"I'm just enjoying more,
I'm just more present.
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Every time that I'm in a place,
I'm more present.
I'm not thinking
About jealousy
Or they want, you know,
To betray me
In the business (an example).
I'm just more present.
I see the things as they are
And not through the filter of my ego.".
That's the point.
So, all these experiences
And all these practices,
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Helps you to reconnect
With yourself
For three simple things:
All of us,
We want to be just happy
Healthy and wealthy.
How to reach this?
How?
Can be very simple.
Of course it needs
Your personal commitment.
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Your choice?
Your choice.
Why you want to do this?
Because I want to be happy
I want to be in harmony
With myself,
With my friends,
With my family.
Very easy things
Actually
That all of us want.
And to reach this?
Yeah, it's easy.
Just to do exercise every day,
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To work on yourself every day.
An example
I advise very simple to people to do:
As you wake up in the morning,
Immediately,
The first thing t
Hat you can do is
To do a meditation.
10 minutes meditation.
Put little bit of nice music,
Switch on a candle,
If you like,
Some essences.
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Use it, otherwise
Create your sacred space.
Just for you, 10 minutes.
Start your breathing technique.
Focus on your breathing for 10 minutes
And just relax.
Have a straight position,
Better. With your back (straight).
You can put
The hands in this way.
Or just relax
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On your legs (the hands).
Just close your eyes
And concentrate on your breathing.
Very easy.
How the air is coming into your body
Andhow the air is going out.
When you will
Reach 10 minutes of this,
You will feel at the end
Just more relaxed
And more focused.
So you can start your day
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And doing your things.
I advise that
You can do this in any moment
Of your day,
But the best is
Right after you wake up
And before to go to sleep.
Because you'll sleep
Like a baby.
When you do this every day.
More you do it,
And more your sleep
Will be very deep.
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Even meaningful.
Your body will relax for sure.
Your mind will not chat
During the night.
That's why some
People has insomnia.
Because you are chatting,
Always.
(yeah).
And in order
To stop this chatting
The only way is to relax your body.
With discipline,
Self discipline.
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And this will balance, actually, yourself
And you will see
A lot of improvements in this.
Because during the day
You will have a lot of challenges.
Even your job,
Your family,
If you have kids
Or you have a partner
Or you are looking
For a partner (an example),
You will have a lot.
The first benefit
That you will see is that
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You are more present.
That you can be
Really with people,
You can really listen persons.
You will be able to do this.
Because you are not
Already in stress.
Already
Your energy,
Body energy,
Mental energy
Are very low.
No, You will be
Always charged from this.
This is the first thing that
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Really you can do.
There are many other things
That I'm suggesting,
Of course, during
The retreat,
During my online course.
That's why I did
An online course:
In order to
Create a pattern that
You can follow.
Basically, all of this
Will be 9 days.
And every day is
Progressive, of course.
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Because every day
You will learn something new.
You can add to this,
If you like to do yoga
Or even fitness,
Why not?
Whatever is your body
Exercise will be very good.
And for me another
Important part
Is journaling.
To write down,
Especially at the end of the day
What you lived
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This day. Right?
What you achieved
For yourself?
I'm not talking about
The things that
You do in a day, okay?
What you achieved
For yourself
At the end of day?
What you really lived today?
"oh, I was angry
At this," (an example),
"..but I managed this time
I was not scared, reacting".
An example:
(58:52):
"I had the moment when I
Was very happy
Because I saw
A person and I
Was very happy."
Emotions!
(yeah)
This is the focus
Very important
Especially in
The journaling.
It's just to put down
What kind of
Emotions you lived.
Because remember
That emotions
Are the door
To achieve something in your life
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And to be happy
Healthy and wealthy.
Yeah you know
It's very interesting that
The think that you told
Or I can say
Like it's very
Simple things
Because when we want
To change something in our life
We think very big
Dramatically:
"tomorrow I will start,
New Day. I will
Not do this,
This, this or this."
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From everything
I understood
That this is not true.
Everything starts from very
Very small details.
That actually we devalue.
When we see:
"breathing? Meditation?
What it's gonna bring to me?".
It's very interesting.
Exactly, that's why
I was thinking the same.
Meditation is just,
(59:53):
You know, for
Tibetan's monk
Or whatever.
("very trendy,
Everyone is doing")
And actually
If you see even,
When, now
We have a lot
Of information about that
Not even successful
People actually
They are doing this.
Because it's helping.
For sure.
To do what?
(01:00:13):
Just to be focused,
Just to be in balance,
Just to be present.
And to don't think always
To the past
Or to the future.
That's the point.
This will open new doors.
Because creativity
Maybe will come out
Or just you will
Manage better and
A difficult situation
Or whatever is
The situation
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Or a project.
You will have more energy.
Because when
You are in stress,
What is happening to your body,
Actually, is that
All the energies
Are concentrated
On something.
Only one thing.
And that's why
You lose focus.
Because even
You are very
Strong person
And you think:
"okay, I can do".
(01:00:55):
Why we use alcohol,
Smoking and many
Other drugs?
Because we want help.
We have no more energy.
But this is not true.
Our body our mind
Are infinite
Source of energy.
If you know
How to use it.
And the only
Way to do this
Is to become
In balance with yourself.
(01:01:16):
And meditation
Is one of these (tools).
We called meditation
But actually
Is just a moment that
You take
For yourself.
10 minutes just to
Reconnect with
Your breathing,
That it's reconnection with
Your body and
To shut up your mind.
Because our mind is
Like, you know,
The thoughts that
Are going on, in
Our mind, is like
(01:01:38):
An highway.
When you look
At an highway,
You'll see many cars
Passing, right?
And these are like thoughts.
And if you are in a stress moment,
You think that
You can follow
All of this cars.
But
Try to do it
And to see all
The cars that
Are passing.
After 10 minutes,
You will be (overwhelmed):
"oh, wow!
I'm feeling even dizzy."
(01:02:00):
So, how to do this?
You can have
The look on
The highway
But not following anything.
And this is the focus.
We have a lot of
This moments
Naturally in
Our daily life,
Right?
That's the point.
How to
Repeat that
Moment of focus
In order to be present?
One, is breeding technique.
Very simple,
(01:02:20):
Just 10 minutes
You focus on
Your breathing.
You are just relaxing with
Maybe nice music
And little candle,
That can help to create
Your sacered
Space.
That it's
Only for you!
In that moment
You are saying
To your soul:
"you know what?
I want to hear
You. Long time
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That i'm not
Hearing you."
Your inner child,
Your soul.
That's the point.
When you reach..
The moment when
You get in
Connection with
Your true essence.
Maybe only for
10 minutes.
For now,
That's enough.
That's the point.
You have to start
From something.
(some small points).
And the question is:
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You want to do this again?
Because at the end
We want to be
Healthy and wealthy.
And in order to be that,
The true way,
Is to reconnect
With yourself
And trust in
What you are.
Because
All human beings
Are wonderful souls.
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How you use it,
It's up to you.
In that point
We will finish our
First session of
The podcast.
And I think
The people who wants
To be healthy
Wealthy and
Happy,
They just need to
Follow this podcast
And time
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By time the
Knowledges and
Things that
You will share
It will be more
And more
Big picture
We can see.
It would be nice
If the
People who will
Watch this video,
They will put
The questions on
The comments.
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And next time
We will ask
Antonio some new
Interesting questions.
I'm ready to.
Yeah
Something like this.
Looking forward
To this.
So, thank you so much
Diyara.
Antonio thank you
For you
And beautiful moment for
The knowledge
That you share
The things that
You say is always
Even though,
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Because I'm
The participant of
Your retreat
And I know and
I heard sometimes
A lot of times this
Techniques and
Your words
But always it's a
Remind, reminds me
The feelings.
Always
The reminder
And always I have a
New insight.
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Even the same words
But because
I'm changing
Every day every
Moment it's
More deeply
Deeply.
The meaning is coming.
And that's it!
Thank you so much
You are in a hurry!
(How to stop this?)