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Music.
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Welcome back. So by now, you should have already figured out that your kids
are going to destroy your house.
So the quicker that you come to terms with that, the better off you're going to be.
Your home will never look like a page out of a magazine, and that's okay.
You also probably have figured out that toddlers are very similar to drunk adults.
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And you may be wondering, no, I did not realize that, but holy shit, you're right.
Yes, I am. And listen to this. They both talk about nonsense.
They both behave irrationally. And they both attempt to gaslight you when you
are confronting them with the truth.
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The only difference between the two is that toddlers aren't actually drunk.
Well, at least I hope they're not actually drunk. And our society is much more
supportive of irrational behavior from a toddler than, say, a drunk adult.
Other than that, they are one in the same. What does this mean?
Well, it means all of your furniture will have stickers on it.
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All of the toys are going to be scattered all over the floor,
and there's going to be a lot of redecorating to the tune of markers,
crayons, paints, and and sometimes food, again, much like a drunk adult.
Through this discovery, you might find a weird concoction of liquid that somehow
made its way into a toy cup in the toy kitchen.
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You may or may not have had any knowledge of this said concoction until you
go to touch the chosen toy cup to find it covered in an unidentified sticky
substance, at which point you just put it right back where you found it.
You don't even clean it. You don't throw it out because God forbid they find
out that you threw out their cup.
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You will be publicly executed during the next family gathering for all of your
family to see just how much of an awful parent you really are.
So instead, you just put it right back where it was. No harm, no foul.
What's my point in all this? Well, if you don't think that all of those things
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that I just described are going to happen to you at your house with your kids, you're delusional.
If what I just described has already happened to you or someone you know,
help is here. Stick with me.
The good news is I'm here for you. The bad news is this is your fucking life now.
This is how your house is going to look, regardless if you have cleaning days
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or even regardless if you have somebody coming and cleaning your house.
It doesn't matter because the moment that it's clean, I mean the moment,
your child is going to sniff that shit out so quickly.
They're going to go, hmm, what's that smell?
Cleanliness? You can't have that. I must put things all over the house.
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I must put stickers on everything.
And there needs to be one more sticky concoction in my toy kitchen.
And they are going to go and do that immediately.
Much like when you go to clean your cat's litter box and you clean it all out
and you put the fresh litter right in there and it smells great.
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First order of business is your cat goes in there and takes a massive shit.
That behavior is exactly what your child is going to do once your house is clean.
Everything that you just did is going to be undone.
So if you can just get rid of that perfectionist ego that creeps up,
you will be able to see just what's really going on in those redecorating moments.
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What's really going on here is that your child is actually growing and and exploring,
and doing what a kid is actually supposed to do.
If you're worrying yourself about ensuring that the house looks like the cover
of a magazine, or micromanaging your kid's playtime, then I have a few concerns.
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One, I'm really confused as to how or why you're a parent, and two,
you're missing what's going on.
What play research and years of child development and psychology have taught
us is that with each little crayon mark,
with each Lego minefield, with each Disney sticker collage, those are testaments
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to your child's growth and exploration.
When a child feels secure in their environment, when their needs are met,
when they know that they're being taken care of, when they know that they're
going to have food and water and shelter, you know, much like a pet,
when they know all of these things are going to happen,
they can feel secure to go and explore and become curious of their environment
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because they don't have to worry about their basic needs being met.
They're going to feel secure that, all right, You know, mom,
dad, grandma, grandpa, whoever has got this.
I'm safe. I'm taken care of.
Everything's cool. I'm going to go put fucking stickers on the coffee table.
I'm going to go make a fucking cup in the kitchen sticky for no apparent reason.
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Because to them, they're not putting stickers on a coffee table.
They're redecorating. Or to them, the sticky liquid isn't really sticky liquid.
It's baby food for their baby. be. And so a child learns to understand their
environment through play.
And if I teach you nothing in this podcast or in any discussion or therapy session
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or blog post or whatever, it's that children learn through play.
Period. The end. Goodbye. Have a good night. No more to say. We learn through play.
You may not remember or think anything of it, but we did. We still do.
How many of you played house when you were little?
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How many of you played out different relationship scenarios with Barbies or GI Joes or X-Men?
Don't come at me and tell me that your Barbies didn't cheat because I don't
believe it for a minute that they weren't cheating. All of our damn Barbies cheated.
We didn't even know what the hell we were doing, but all those damn Barbies
cheated. Where did we learn that?
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Where did we learn about cheating? What does that even mean?
Mean. Your parents may not have ever cheated on each other.
They may not have ever even uttered that word.
But we've heard it somewhere or we saw it somewhere and we wanted to figure out what it meant.
We all know back in the day, our grandma or our mom or whoever was watching those soap operas.
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Days of our lives would come on and we may or may not have been peaking.
And when we were peaking, we saw all kinds of weird shit like people dying and
then coming back to life in later episodes.
Yeah, I'm looking at you, Bo. and cheating happening all the time.
And it's through this that we're like, what the fuck? And we play this out with
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our Barbies in this case.
And what we're actually doing is we're figuring out relationships,
boundaries, and how to manage conflict.
And when we play house, or when we play Barbies, or when we play with our action
figures or Legos or pretend play or any of of that, we're creating scenarios.
We're creating conflict that we have to work out the solution.
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If a child feels secure in their home environment,
they're more likely to experiment with these different dynamics than if they're
always having to worry about whether or not they have a place to sleep,
whether or not they're going to eat that day, or whether or not your mom's going
to have a shit fit because you may or may not have accidentally spilled some
very clearly washable paint on the tile and she may or may not lose her fucking mind.
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If you don't have to worry about those things, you're going to have more opportunities
to experiment and test out these different dynamics.
So if your kid is experimenting with sticky liquid or they're playing Barbies
or action figures and they're saying some weird shit or it seems like they're
playing out some weird shit, they're doing what they need to.
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They're learning how to navigate their environment. They're learning how to
navigate the world. They're learning how to navigate relationships.
May or may not be doing it correctly, but they're learning.
They're just learning just like we did. just because
a child plays out for example a cheating barbie
doesn't necessarily mean that mom's cheating on dad or that dad cheating on
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mom it means that i heard this word or i saw this thing and i don't quite understand
what it means but i'm going to play it out to figure out what's supposed to
happen and it's through that that they start to develop moral character they
start to develop personality, they start to figure things out.
And they may get it wrong, and they may get some aspects of it right.
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But the point is, is that they're doing all of this through exploration,
all of this through growth, all of this through play.
They're able to learn, they're able to discover, they're able to engage in new
activities, learn new skills, development, all of that, which is what we want.
We want them to learn these things. And this is all good stuff.
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So play is the natural way that a child learns all of this and figures these things out.
So the takeaway from this episode is if we can get rid of the idea that your
kids are ruining your house, which I mean they are,
but if we can get rid of the narrative that the kids are ruining something and
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instead reframe it to be that our kids are learning something,
we will find our relationship with them and ourselves will improve.
Remember, caring what other people will say or what other people will think is our shit.
That's ours, not theirs, ours.
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That's our own ego that maybe we need to explore a bit.
Once we can work on letting that shit go, then we can start to embrace what's
really going on and be more actively involved in our child's cognitive,
social, and emotional development.
I wonder what your home would be like, or your sanity, if instead of trying
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to confine them into an unrealistic and developmentally inappropriate box,
you just started noticing what they're playing, listening to what they're saying,
noticing what they're doing.
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You might learn from them if you let them tell you why they did something or
what they were thinking the choice should be.
Instead of correcting them all the time, I wonder what you might learn if you
let them show you instead without you interfering.
Will they get it right all the time? No. In fact, they probably will get it wrong most of the time.
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But if they can't learn to trust themselves or trust that they are capable of
making the right choice, when will they ever learn?
I know a few adults who still can't trust their own judgment because they became
too used to being told what and how to do something that they quickly stopped
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relying on their own instincts and gut responses,
which is dangerous in and of itself.
How would your child handle conflict if If they never experienced it for themselves
or learned how to engage with peers in order to come to some sort of a resolution,
if they never experienced these things, how are they going to know how to handle it?
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We can't keep saving them. And I know that's a really hard concept to follow, but we can't.
We can't constantly jump in and interfere and save our kids from defeat, from conflict,
from, I hate even this word, failure, because that's how they learn.
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I remember a personal story speaking about conflict.
When I was younger, I played Barbies all the time. and I would go to my neighbor's
house and we would play Barbies for all hours.
I mean, hours and hours and hours of time was spent on playing these fucking Barbies.
And the thing is, is we wouldn't actually play Barbies.
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Interact or engage in some kind of storyline, we would spend days just setting the houses up.
And we didn't have like actual Barbie houses.
We would use the table or the stairs of a porch to be like the first and second
story of a house or something.
And we would set up all of the furniture, the accessories, all the things that
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were part of our Barbie's house, we would set it up that way.
And I'm telling you, we would take days to do this.
I say all this to say that a lot of time was spent in setting up our Barbie houses.
So one time in particular, it was, I think,
probably around day three that we were setting up the Barbie houses and we were
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We're just about done and we would have played that same day,
but it likely got late or whatever and I had to go home.
And on day four, I had a doctor's appointment, so I couldn't go over and play
with the Barbies or start the storyline on that time. So I missed that day.
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I go over there the following day. So if you're following along, this is day five now.
So I go over there and while I'm gone, apparently, I notice that my Barbie house
is completely destroyed.
I mean, in a pile of Barbie shit, just shit all over the place.
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And I had quite the confused look and shock on my face.
And when I turn and ask my friends, what the fuck?
They replied with, oh, a tornado came and hit your house. And that's why all
of your Barbie stuff is destroyed.
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And I remember standing there and being very confused because even though I was like six or seven,
you know, I knew that tornadoes didn't typically just hit like one house and
then leave everything else alone, though.
Has it happened? Sure. But in my six-year-old brain, no.
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Tornadoes don't do that. They don't just like hop on one house and then go fuck off somewhere.
I've seen tornadoes at least take the neighborhood out.
But again, in this scenario, my friends who were older than me are telling me
that a tornado came and only hit my house while I was gone.
And now when I come back to play,
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I have to reset all the things that I did and redo the whole house because because
no one else can explain the phenomena that is the tornado that hit just my house on that day.
That day, and many other days afterwards, I learned a lot.
I learned how to deal with conflict that day. Oh yeah, I learned a lot that
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day about conflict, about friendships, about betrayal, about loyalty,
all those complex thoughts.
I learned all through play, all through the random tornado that just so happened
to hit my house and nobody else's.
It was all through playing Barbies.
Imagine what your child can learn through putting stickers on a coffee table
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or making a weird experiment out of liquid.
There's some really, really great stuff happening there.
And if you're too focused on how your house looks for that one acquaintance
that has a child, but you are convinced the whole family are cyborgs and not
really human, because how in the fuck can she be in Florida humidity and her hair not frizz?
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Or maybe it's a family member, which it usually is,
that comes in, guns a-blazin', criticizing your shit, and you know damn well
that their house was tore the fuck up when either you were little or their child
was little or whatever, But now they're coming back at you like,
why is your fucking house destroyed?
And you're like, bitch, I have a four-year-old. You better be happy social media
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isn't a thing when your kid was little. That's all I'm saying, Ruth.
If that is what you're worried about, then you're actually missing out on so
much more that your child is showing you and that your child can actually teach you about them,
about you, about Barbies, or about tornadoes.
I hope this was helpful.
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I hope that you feel more willing to embrace the chaos and be curious about
your child's play and your child's exploration and stop giving a shit about
Ruth or Cheryl down the street says about your house and pay more attention
to things that actually matter,
like your kid and what they can teach us.
Next week's episode, Mom, Look, I Pooped in the Potty, discusses how to embrace
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confidence and not shame.
Thank you again for listening and being a part of this moment.
Definitely means a lot to me. Thank you so much.
Please like, share, comment, rate, send a messenger pigeon so I can continue
making episodes and we can create a big family of bad moms.
Thank you for listening to The Bad Moms Club, a podcast for the rest of us.
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Music.