Bazzel Baz, ‘BLACKLIST’, CIA Operative, Warrior, Rescuer, Author EP592

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Today he's known as the patron St. of impossible causes.
Basberg's an extraordinary life of covert operations at the CIA,
Hollywood storytelling and counterterrorism expertise to
every conversation. A former CIA intelligence
Special Operations Group officerand U.S.
Marine Corps counterterrorism officer, he's a decorated
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of U.S. intelligence, A graduateof The Citadel and recipient of
the Intelligence Commendation Medal.
His missions remain classified, but his impact is unmistakable.
He's masterfully transitioning his operational experience.
You guys probably know him from the hit series Blacklist into an
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You know how we are about the child trafficking on this show.
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I could go on and on. Here, let's get him in here.
There's no reason to waste any more time.
No. Welcome to the big, big show,
Basil Bass. How you doing, Sir?
We got no audio. Good to be with you guys.
Thank you so much. Hey, Bass, thank you so very
much for joining us, man. You know, we always feel like on
this show that, you know, time is the most valuable commodity

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that any of us has is that clockticks.
Listen, you know that there's somuch to talk about with you, but
I think we've got to start maybeat the beginning.
I think it would agree if you could share with the audience
how you went from the US Marine Corps and decided that the CIA
was the right choice for you. Yeah, thank you.
Thanks for having me. Kind of a funny story.

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I was at the national war and being a counterterrorism and
guys walked up to me these CIA badges of all things, which is
kind of unusual. I thought.
I thought everybody you know from that, from that

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organization stayed invisible. And they said, Captain Boss,
how'd you like to do God's work?And I was like, I don't really
know what that means. So they said, well, we, we've
been watching you and we have some interest in you and
wondered if you would be interested in talking to us
about a career in the CIA. And I said, well, I said, let's

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have a conversation. And they said, well, we'll be in
touch. And they just disappeared.
They walked down the hall and I was trying to figure out, wait a
minute, I didn't give them any of my contact information, how
to be in touch. So about literally about a week
later, I get a note on my desk that said, go see Colonel Norman

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at this certain building at Quantico.
And so I took a walk down there wasn't very far from where I
was, where I was working. And it was this building, unlike
all the other Marine Corps building, generally spit and
Polish grass was growing up. Paint was coming off the off the
wall, off the outside walls and and the door.
And so I thought maybe, maybe I'm at the wrong place, but I

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knocked anyway and the door opened and a lady and civilian
attire said Captain Boz when I walked inside this rundown
building and and then and Shannon ran at Colonel Dorman's
office and I walked in and here's this like, you know,

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shiny oak floors and bookcase and everything but Marine Corps.
It reminded me of some great, you know, great writers room, so
to speak. And what I was looking at was
the back of a leather chair, topof somebody's, you know, crew
cut haircut and a trail of cigars.

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I said, turn dormant, Captain boss reporting his words.
And he swings around in the chair and I'm looking at this
marine of a Marine, you know, heel, blue eyes, square jaw.
And he takes the fire stick out of his out of his mouth and sets
it down and says, Captain Boss, I understand he's been a
country. And of course, I hadn't told

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anybody that that I had even hadspoken with him and I didn't
really know what to say. And he looked at me and he said,
naval attache aunt gave me a dayhotel had gunned down by
terrorists. And I said, yes, Sir, that

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incident, he said, but did you hear the rest of the story?
No, Sir, I'm not sure what you're talking about as well.
That attache picked himself up off the off the dirt, opened his
briefcase, pulled out of Zuzi and took quote.
And when those sobs came back, he gunned them all down.
He walked back in the Hilton Hotel and said, give me a
doctor. They got him a doctor.

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And that son is why I stay in the Hilton Hotel.
So he goes and he said saying that naval attache, that was me
and I was working. Hey, and I'm here to ask you, do
you want to join the CIA? And I didn't, I still didn't
really know what to say. And he said, well, you just
think about it. As I was walking out the door, I
stopped and I turned around and said, Sir, if you were me, what

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would you do? And he swivels around and back
in the chair. I'm looking at the same picture
that I saw when I entered, the back of the leather chair, the
top of his head, the trail of cigar smoke.
I hear him say, why'd you win the CIA if I were you, boy?
And about two weeks later, I disappeared from the United

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States Marine Corps and I ended up in, let's say, yes, social
activity service, SOG Ground branch.
And we're surrounded by some of the most amazing war fighter you
can ever have in your life. That's how I got there.
Thanks, Badge. We lost Lance for a minute.
He'll be coming back. I don't know what happened.
He just threw me for a loop, so I had to change our shot

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options. So he's back.
Hold on. Let me bring him back in.
Lance, can you hear us? Yeah, You know, I I don't know,
maybe the CIA doesn't want him to talk and they wanted to cut
me out of the discussion over here.
Who knows? At the end of the day, I had a
short blackout. It was like a one second

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blackout. But of course, everything reset.
Never good. You know, it's funny.
They they, they it was interesting.
I, I went to Colorado State University and they were
recruiting on campus and I actually was challenged because
a lot of my friends thought I was the perfect fit for the CIA
and they challenged me to go walk in for the interview.
And, you know, because I'd always been into combat sports,

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I was always in good shape and Ihad kind of, my whole history
might have been a good fit, you know, but I think I let the, my,
my own personal greed at that time, probably a bad decision.
Maybe I should have done it, ButI actually interviewed really
well. They pursued me for weeks after
this because they, I guess I didfit them all.
Then I'd done some additional testing they gave on campus and

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it was interesting. I didn't take that path.
Now, in retrospect, I kind of wish I had, but I went down a
different route. I ended up being, years later,
I, I, I started training, I was doing training for lots of
different organizations, close quarters battle techniques, hand
to hand knife fighting, all thatsort of thing.
So I ended up becoming a government contractor later on.

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I'd done some work and I worked with, you know, Blackwater,
Halliburton, United Defense, Sabre and a couple others, did a
bunch of international work. But as I circle back and now
that I've gotten older, I kind of feel like maybe working for
the government might have been agood move for me.
It was a good fit I think, cuz Iwas pretty comfortable around
those guys. But it was interesting.

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You're right. They kind of have a laid back
style to the point that I thought when I walked out, I
thought, Oh yeah, they freaking hate me.
There's no way they want me. And it turned out it was the
exact opposite. So interesting stuff, George.
Have we thrown up his picture yet?
I don't know if I missed that with him.
And I want to talk about which one.

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The one with him next to the CIAlogo there.
There's one. Yeah, yeah, there it is.
There's the shot they took. They took that off your website.
You know, what's really interesting about your
background is that you also the recipient of the Intelligence
Commendation Medal and a lot of other exceptional performance
awards. I know the CIA.
Those are pretty you. You really have to do some heavy

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lifting for them to even get considered for those.
They don't quite give those out maybe as easily as some of the
military forces do. Can you give me a little
background on that? I know there's a lot of covert
stuff you can't talk about, but maybe some of the stuff that led
in generalized statements. What led to you receiving some
of those awards and medals? Yeah.
Well, I think I think the best way to set it up is to say that

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when I came in, they were choosing people that didn't want
to reward for anything. You know, it was very clear that
if you were the type of individual that could be a
silent warrior, do your job, notexpect anything, oftentimes not
even a thank you and you were satisfied with that.
You were the right person. And I still agree with that to

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this day. To be honest with you.
All the people that I learned from who were or there from
there, they were from or you know, former Navy Seals, all the
old, old warriors, so to speak. That's the way they live their
life and that's the way I was taught.
So to receive something was actually always quite a

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surprise. And not that we weren't
grateful, but really didn't really didn't talk a lot about
it or go yeah, I deserve that. Maybe particularly in in light
of all your friends that do, youknow, that are are buried down.
There's a star on the wall for them and stuff like that.
So I think it's, it's safe for me to say before I talk a little

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bit about that, that there are much finer.
Why learn from. And then I owe my life and my my
expertise to those guys, in addition to my dad, eighth group
guy way back, you know, But these these are the men and
women that I found myself among when I got there.

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And I was just blown away. These are the people that just
kind of disappear into the dark.You don't ever know what
happened to them. And then one day get someplace
like Ground Branch site. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah. It's Ron Franklin, former
Sergeant major, Delta Force, youknow, or whatever it may be.
That particular Intel star I gotfrom our work in Mogadishu,
Somalia, It was a handful of ground branch officers that had

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gone in early to do what we did,you know, you know, basically
collecting Intel and a few otherthings.
Whatever was required of us, I didn't, didn't really expect it
to come out of that, anything tocome out of that because or to
receive that, because there had been so many things along the
way that we had all been confronted with.

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And I think we, we obviously only were success, successful
and the outcomes. And you just came back and you,
you did your laundry, you packedyour clothes and you just went
back out. In those days when I came on
board, weren't very many of us at Ground Branch?
I think, and I'm this man numbermay not be correct.
I think like 23. That was it for the entire that

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I know our office was very small.
All of that changed after 911 as, as you know, George and and
Lance. Grew.
Exponentially to fit into whatever the the congressional
agenda was that chasing terrorists ISIS, yeah, you know,

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the Taliban and this goes. So I'm I'm I'm proud of it.
It's a nice looking thing. It sits on my wall and A and a
kind of a, you know, a room thatI don't let many people in.
And it's just a good reminder ofof doing the right thing.
And, you know, and that's that'swhat you always want to do.

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A lot of the guys in ground Ranch mission focus to to the
Dutchman of their marriages mostof the time remember things they
said don't get married if you'rewhich won't last, and that was
true. There are a few officers in
there that are still married andthat amazing wives, but I'd say

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a percentage of us that didn't listen and we're not in those
marriages. You know, I think for a lot of
people, they don't realize the sacrifice that comes with covert
operations. You know, the interesting part,
you know, I spent a lot of time around covert undercover
operatives and lots of differentagencies and even some bunch of
people from different international teams, MI 6,

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Mossad and others. And I spent a lot of time in the
Middle East and Northern Africa during that time period.
But you know, the, the undercover operatives, they're,
they're kind of a unique kind ofa, a, a, a beast.
At the end of the day, they're interesting individuals as far
as how they operate, but the sacrifice they make when it
comes to their personal connections and families, it's
it's one of the things I think people in the in the American

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public really estimate, underestimate.
Do you feel like your your life was considerably released on a
personal level because of your participation in the CIA?
It was better. Is that what you asked?
No, I don't know if it was better necessarily.
I mean, do you feel like your personal connections were
considerably different than outside the agencies, outside of

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your, your work teams that that you you weren't as able to be as
personal with people? I've heard this before that some
people felt disconnected. Yeah, you know, I think it's how
you live your cover, to be honest with you, Lance, I I
think that if you make a big deal that it's going to be
difficult for you to engage in life because now spy or you're
in the cover. I guess some people develop that

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attitude. I just kind of always went with
the flow. It's like, OK, by day I'm this,
by night I'm that it's not a bigdeal.
It's just what you have to do toprotect your family.
Check, you know, your mission and stuff like that.
So I, I, I think overall my lifewas is far better from the
people I met than operations within the CIA.

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It isn't better. It isn't better by all the
people I met in the CIA. And in fact, Jeremy, now talk.
I wouldn't even go back and see right?
Now, yeah. It's so it when Obama went in,
it got so corrupted. Yeah.
Clinton, Obama and Bush and all those guys.
And it's not place. And I only know this because
obviously, even though once you're out as you, you can be

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out. And people believe that's not
true. They go, well, you're never out.
Well, yeah, yeah, you are. But you still maintain those
friendships and connections and you still kind of keep your, you
know, your hand on the pulse of the of the organization.
And it's not the same place if it's going to ever be as
effective as it was in the days of Bill Casey.
Our spies were real spies. And we really did our job

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instead of getting weaponized bypoliticians.
They're going to they're going to have to step on the gas
pedal. It's going to have to be cleaned
up and the right people are going to have to be put in.
Otherwise, it will not only become the biggest dragon in the
room for 47, it will become the biggest dragon in the room for
all the corruption that currently exists there.

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What they manage on the level ofcorruption.
And we, you won't be able to control it.
It will run a nation. I mean, this is an organization
that I belong to that we overthrew governments.
We don't think they have the capability to overthrow the
government that they are supposed to be aligned with.
In the wrong hands, they'll do the same thing to the United
States that they did to other governments.

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Good or bad, it doesn't really matter.
I mean, during our time, I considered stopping communism
and, and the pursuit of democracy a good thing, but when
it falls in the wrong hands, you're having just the opposite
happening in your own country. And I think we who are kind of
on the in the trenches know thatwhat has happened with the deep

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state state is real. It's not to promote democracy
and support the Constitution. It is just the opposite.
The challenge we have is as the war isn't being fought out
there, it's being fought on our own soil.
And so I tell people, you know, just because 47 is in battle is
actually just beginning. Trust me, you know, people have

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no idea. We thought it was ugly when we
got to look behind the veil. It is uglier than we could have
ever. You know.
On Lance. Lance, hold.
On Yeah, George, please hold. On Basil can you raise your mic
volume as high as you your settings allow it and Lance
lower yours so he can balance out because.
OK. Please.
All right. How's that guys?

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Is is that the highest it can go?
Yeah, that seems to be the highest it can go.
George, is that better? No lower Lance.
Sorry guys. I just want to get this right
for you guys, OK? No problem, I don't work at.
Bike here part of the process. Yeah.
George, how's that better? Yeah, thanks.
OK. Yep, you got it.
Glasses back on. That's why I'm trying to raise
it as high as I can on my end soit balances out.

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It's all good, all. Right.
You know, a lot of people, the public narrative, right, the
public narrative about how we'repursuing democracy and how the
agencies, that's what their prime, you know, goal is not
really the case. You know, I worked around a lot
of different operations over theyears, you know, doing

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diplomatic security and facilitysecurity and all kinds of other
things. And I didn't have any military
background. So I came in a bit a different
way. I was training contractors and
I, I, I'd come from a gun culture and been raised, you
know, shooting my whole life. So I was pretty adept early on
with those skills. And then I focused on all my,
you know, fighting skills for years and years and years.

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But when I was around those people and I started to see kind
of what was really going on, Like you said, when the veil
gets pulled back, you recognize that what we're being told is
considerably different than what's going on now.
I was already phasing out by thetime 9/11 came on.
I wasn't doing any more private work any longer.
And what I thought was interesting is the stories that

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I would hear from people that I was still close with and I'm
still close with now. You know, the the stories behind
Hammer and Hammer, you know, theHammer supercomputer and the
surveillance and so many other things when it had to do with
ECHELON and Carnivore and the programs that are now
declassified you can talk about and the way they were using them
to spy on Americans. And of course, it seemed like

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Kennedy got it right when he said the CIA need to be
scattered to the winds. His insight maybe back then was,
you know, maybe maybe a little premature, maybe the agency was
still doing good work, but he wasn't comfortable with maybe
the direction it was going. Of course, a lot of people
believe he was assassinated because of it.
Even now, we're supposed to get all those files.
But there's many things the government is even this

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administration is hasn't really gone.
They said, oh, we're going to release all the Kennedy files.
And Rodger Stone is probably oneof the premier Kennedy experts
has said he's truly believes they haven't released all the
files for a number of reasons. Things he won't talk about
because, of course, he served with, you know, and was in the
White House with four different presidents in different roles.

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And he knew a lot. Of course, he was extremely
close to Richard Nixon. I think Nixon had discussed some
of those things early on that couldn't be discussed when it
came to Kennedy, and Rodger probably knows about that.
But you look about the MLK vialsand the RFK vials, 9/11, there's
still lots of questions, although there seems to be some
movement in the direction that people don't think that was
fully disclosed. Who knows what the real, real

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story is behind it. Maybe it really is all a
terrorist operation. But there's a lot of questions
about how the buildings were taken down.
I, you know, having known a lot of, you know, a lot about
demolition and lots of EOD stufflike, you know, I question it.
There's lots of things about that event that don't seem in
particular was there like is there a moment you can talk
about maybe where you started toquestion maybe now you see it.

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But back then was there a coupleof times because I was things
that I saw transactions, currency exchanges, weapons
exchanges, things like that, that I kind of just walked away
shaking my head and said, man, this can't.
And of course as a contractor, you know, you're a disposable
asset. That's why they use contractors
for deniable accountability. Of course, that's that's why

(27:50):
they use us. I, I would walk away thinking
there's no freaking way we just participated was legal on any
continent. There's no way that that should
have even happened. Of course, I kept it to myself.
I didn't vocalize it. I just kind of sat there
thinking, man. And later on some of my
experiences, it's why I stopped doing it because I, I had a bad
interaction. I got shot and I got left behind

(28:13):
and I had to walk out just about10 clicks using dirty socks and
duct tape so I didn't bleed out.And you know, I, I thought, man,
this, I don't know how long my, my life, my lifeline is going to
go here. Was there one moment that you
said, ah, man, I don't know this, this, this might be time
for me to find a different career.

(28:34):
Yeah, yeah. There was 1 moment.
It wasn't about finding a different career, but it was an
eye opener for me. We were supporting an initiative
with the and we were on our way to takedown a facility and 24
hour the operation launched, we got an abort from Washington

(28:59):
only for me to find out that thefacility was a Chevron oil
facility which was supporting and supplying the Russians and
the Cubans the fuel they needed to fight against the very people
we were supporting. And I remember looking at Popeye
and he said, welcome to the club.
This is this is a reality check for you.

(29:20):
Oh, I got schooled to to understand that every operation
I went on, I was more so protecting my buddies and my
friends than than the war. And I just had this conversation
with a young war fighter yesterday.
And he was he was asking the same questions, Lance, that you
were asking. And I said, look, every
operation you've gone on, whether as a contractor or part

(29:43):
of the military, when you get down range, do you are you
thinking about what the political, political issues are
behind all of this? It goes no.
Absolutely not. You're saving your buddy, you're
saving a villager, you're and atthe end of the day, when you
come home, you need to feel goodback.
I did. I did the right thing by doing
that. But as we get more mature and we

(30:05):
look at that from the 14,000 foot level of why we sent
someone there to begin with, I can with absolute confidence
tell you that we have that. We have military industrial
complex and politicians. We have spilled more innocent
blood from more fighters for their profit than I can shake a

(30:28):
stick at. And then we know that.
So it's not I, I and he said, what, what would you feel good
about being a part of it needed to go back, you know, outside of
just having making money as a contractor.
I said I would feel good about my shores if my shores were
being attacked here at my country.

(30:48):
I said, but I'm very skeptical. Anytime I see us go over another
country, I always ask the questions who's profiting from
that? Who's making money from that?
And how many of my buddies are going to die because of that.
So I really like the sevens approach about how we should be
fighting those battles, so to speak, be doing the long term

(31:08):
stuff. I have to but that moment that I
just explained to you made me think.
And then I I realized there is justification for being
compartmented in the agency. But what has happened is that
that that system has been greatly to the point that I go

(31:29):
all the way back to Iran Contra and here we are location with
certain individuals training Contras, having no idea that not
very far away there's another base that's running drugs for
Bill Clinton to be in Arkansas. And when I got back later years
with people, guys, you know, youguys were running drugs.
It's like, no, we weren't the middle of the middle helping

(31:51):
people fight a war. Had no idea.
And that was another eye opener for me as well.
There's no way that those deals could not have been made unless
they were made behind our backs.But they needed distractions and
we were the distraction and the people that died were the
distraction. And it really pisses me off to
be honest with you. And when, when I people go what,

(32:12):
what would what would accountability look like for
you? Accountability would look like
finding out who was part of thatand who made the money and
hanging them with a short rope from a big tree.
To be honest with you, you know,most patriots and most of us now
and, and at 69, I don't really give a rat's ass people thinking
about what are you going to do and send me back to Iraq, send

(32:33):
me to Afghanistan, you know, putme in a, you put me in another
jail cell or something, doesn't matter.
But the truth has to be told. And people are, people are
seeking accountability now. And I don't mean in a broken
judicial system, people and Americans have a right to say,
why is it that I go to jail but Hillary Clinton doesn't go to
jail? Man, that you are speaking.

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You talk about that all the time.
George, I'm gonna let you run with this because, you know,
I've spoken about accountabilityand consequences and the rule of
law, equal application of law, right?
You know, equal protection of the law.
You are talking about one of ourmain veins on this show and I
and I and and then George, I'm going to say one more thing and
I want you to I want you to because you, you and I have done

(33:17):
this non-stop. You know, a lot of people don't
recognize, you know it when it comes down to at least in the
area that I was in, you know, the rules of engagement.
You would think that common sense would be part of that, but
it never was. It was always about the agenda
of whatever mission it was or whatever, whatever operation it
was, but it wasn't in alignment with what was being publicized.

(33:39):
And you know, I think what happens, you know, you start out
in any of this stuff bright eyedand bushy tailed.
You're excited about it for one reason or another.
And then they kind of take your virginity and you recognize that
there's more shame in the game than maybe understood.
George, go from there. Because man accountability
consequences. That is a key element of this
show, and common sense is a key element of our.

(34:01):
Show you might have just hit youmight hit a nerve there Baz
because just look forget about Hillary Clinton.
She should be hanging from the gallows in my opinion.
But if you look at just right now the the couple Congress
people the judge, how dare you arrest a put arrest or put in
handcuffs sitting congresswoman or senator.

(34:22):
They just act like they're abovethe law.
You know and it's and this is the problem because like you
said there's no consequences Bazand like you've if you could
steal a candy bar from a store and you don't get caught the
person's going to do it again ifthere's no consequence to do it
again just like all the looting and burning.
I have a question for you. Yes Sir and Lance is going to
laugh but you think I say no thegolden Fort Knox.

(34:45):
I don't think there's really much there.
Yeah, that's what happened. To the audit, where's the audit?
He smiled, so he knows something.
You know what? I I don't usually speak to
something unless I've seen it with my own eyes, so I can't
tell you if it is. There isn't.
But you can see it because it's not there.
Yeah, it's, you know, The funny thing is, they were all hot to

(35:07):
trot about the audit. Elon Musk was disposing a lot.
You, you know, there was a fallout in DC over it.
All right, listen, we got a lot to cover here.
We got to take a small break. We come back.
We'll be here with Basil Baz. Of course, we're pulling back
the veil. You may not want to hear it.
This this isn't mainstream media.
So you're hearing the truth right here from a couple of old
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which is expose the truth. It's edge of the knife on this
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(41:03):
You know, you just said something while we were
backstage. We talked about open border
policy. We've had many on this show, you
know, Ben Burkwell, Oscar L Blue, you know, Ann Vanderschel,
do some more done there. Michael Yan.
These are all friends of ours. They've been on the border
exposing what happened, the criminal exposure of the
southern border. Not too many people talk about

(41:26):
the northern border. It's nearly just as bad.
There's AVIP service we talked about on the show.
I have a source that's dealt with the cartels and and
different cartels for years. He's given me information over
the years about different thingsgoing on and he's talked about
the VIP service that the cartelsoffered for $100,000.
They give you guaranteed entrance into the United States.

(41:47):
A lot of that VIP service goes to the northern border.
But you have done something. You've taken your skill set,
you, you've done it. I, I think for all the right
reasons. You created the Association for
the Recovery of Children and nowyou were just talking about you
trying to move something forwardin Congress.
I want, I want you to go into this.
Well, this is such a great transition for you.

(42:09):
And, and I can't imagine a guy better, better skilled for this
operation, but we know that the human trafficking and child
trafficking is much worse than any administration has ever
discussed, even Donald Trump. It's horrendous.
We had a lot of people that thatwere whistleblowers that came on
the show. They've testified in front of
Congress about missing children,not not only the US children,

(42:32):
but of course, you know, children coming across the
border, being brought in throughcartels and then sold off into
indentured service or into sex trade.
Let's go into this a little bit and kind of tell me, how did you
decide this is what you wanted to do, how you drawn into and
kind of maybe talk about that border bill you just introduced?
Yeah, thank you, Mogadishu. In 1993, most people know that

(42:55):
from the Black Hawk Down incident that happened.
I was, we were there, I was there with the center spike
team, a few Marines and we rescued a couple we're not from
that area. And then got them to say like
there's a long story with it. But I'll just do the short
version. Most of the kids that we saw are

(43:18):
most of the bodies you see during any type of civil war is
just kind of given this collateral damage.
It's just, you know, it's not that you like because you're
moving forward on your mission. And in this case, we wrestled
with the idea of saving these little girls, but we things

(43:38):
opened up and we did. We went and rescued them and got
them back. And when I got back to the
States, it's the first time in my life, Lance, I ever even
asked what happens to children. I don't know.
I don't know what I don't know what transitioned in my heart at
that time. I, I remember sitting, I
remember, you know, I remember having a conversation with God

(44:00):
in Africa and looking up at, youknow, sky blanket with billions
of stars. And I just said, God, why?
And it's clear that I created you.
And I think what he was saying was not that he just created me,
but he created people to, to getin the fight, so to speak.
So I got back to the States and I realized that kids didn't grow

(44:22):
up like me. They didn't all go to elementary
school, high school and have a nice family and going to college
and get a job. And that time there were 2000
American children missing. And when I talked to my law
enforcement partners, they said they're just missing.
We, we don't know where they are.
And the word trafficking wasn't a big term being used back then.
And, and I, I kept and saying, well, yeah, but where, where are

(44:46):
they missing? How are they missing?
They're like, look, we don't know.
We just Scrabble off as missing kids.
Like we have terrorism, we have bank robberies, we have fraud,
we have homicides. These are all the priorities.
And kids were kind of at the bottom of the list.
So I'm 93 to 96 on my holidays, I would go out quietly.

(45:07):
I didn't, yeah. I didn't mention it to anybody
in the agency. I-96 I I figured, well, I could
do this and it needs to be done and it it became something
bigger than overthrowing small governments for me.
And I found based on some of thestuff Lance, you and I were
talking, you know, about all thecorruption seen and how the

(45:29):
politics are playing in and other things.
And I thought, wow, this is far greater because these children
are the future of our country and they're unblemished to some
degree outside of their perpetrators, what their
perpetrators mean. They're, you know, they, they
haven't been corrupted by other things like aside and stuff.
So that's how we got started. 96I jumped ship and started this

(45:53):
full time. And so far, I think we're now
one of the oldest running rescueorganizations in America by
going after and sex trafficking.You know, you got 100% success
rate, which is pretty incredible.
I mean, almost unbelievable really.
And you know, and even that I'm sure you, you do, you feel like

(46:15):
you're, you've only been able to, you just impact such a small
segment of it because there's somuch of it.
Do you struggle with that at all?
Because the, the, the tough partfor me, I, when I hear about
human trafficking or pedophilia or people like, you know,
Epstein, man, I have to be honest.
And George knows I struggle withthis a lot.
I, there's a lot of dark thoughts to come to mind.

(46:37):
Some of them include an industrial wood chipper.
And you know, the, the, the mindset I have is that you can't
fix those people. They're unfixable because I
believe that, that, that decision, because for, for the
people that don't, you know, this whole thing about maps
that, that trying to neutralize and, and, and, and make it
mainstream, coming up with minorattracted persons.

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You know, I'm, I'm really disgusted by all of it.
You know, it's, it's one of those things that I, I think
it's a simple solution, you know, life sentences, death
sentences, because I think theseare the kind of people, when you
look at the mental health crisisin the United States and I look
at the, the brainwashing that's allowed to happen.
I am not a fan of TikTok, you know, I know there's some decent
content that shows up on there, but I truly believe it's a

(47:22):
Chinese operation and its intentto undermine the youth in the
country. You know, the idea that licking
a toilet bowl for a challenge isa top priority to get views and
clicks. Or some of these these people
that are, you know, gender influencing our children.
They're trying to groom them at such an early age and they get

(47:42):
on their men dressed as women and tell them, oh, you can talk
to me, but you don't need to talk to your father or what's
happening in the school systems.We covered a story that George
and I sometimes bring up. It was a the, what was it
called? The Rainbow Butt Monkey?
George, was that right? Don't bring that shit up.
The Rainbow Butt Monkey was somebody that was hired to, to

(48:03):
do storytelling at the, at the, the local library.
And I thought about this, this, that the idea that this this
butt monkey that had a naked butt and actually had a large
dildo hanging from him, that this was supposed to be somebody
that was going to be reading books to our children.
And I thought about who came up with this garbage.

(48:24):
What's really the plan? It's got to be a much more
nefarious operation. And this is where I'm leading
with this question for you, as you've done this recovery, how
organized do you feel like this is?
And how high does it go up in our government?
Because that is one thing that the mainstream media never wants
to discuss. It's always swept under the rug,

(48:44):
not, you know, the Epstein situation that they, they're
doing everything they can to hide it.
I heard from a very, very, you know, a guy that I trust, he was
in every one of the raids. They came out of there with
Israeli technology was what theywere using for surveillance.
We know that Elaine Maxwell had access through her father to the

(49:05):
Mossad. I always believed that Epstein's
entire operation was blackmail, influence peddling and of
course, extortion and bribery. It was all about that.
I don't think the guy ever made a legitimate dollar, but I think
he, he got people, he compromised them and then he
took videos and surveillance andaudio.
But they're acting like now all of a sudden Cash Patel and
others have come out and said, oh, I don't think there really

(49:25):
is any of that, which I, I know that not to be true for fact.
How much, how much have you seenthat you think the operations,
it isn't just one child missing,that these are operations that
lead all the way back up into the the higher echelons of our
federal government? Well, I'm going to address that,

(49:47):
but if let me address this first.
The purpose of losing children'sidentity is to not only
breakdown the family union, America, but to destroy the
fabric of America, children of the future.
So the process in doing that revolves all around all those

(50:10):
things that you're talking aboutminor attractive persons.
We we if we normalize, we normalize things in our society,
people get so used to it and you're able to proceed with it.
And so these are they're important aspects of children

(50:36):
have become such a commodity formultiple reasons, money
laundering, evil lust, human lust and the list goes on and on
and on. So what has happened in America
outside of just deviant laws, you know, deviant lifestyles, is

(51:01):
that at the highest level of notonly governments, but outside of
governments with people that have retired from governments,
they make a lot of money. They launder a lot of money
through whatever commodity is the biggest seller.
And children are the biggest commodity for sale around the

(51:23):
world, whether it's for sex, whether it's for organ
harvesting, whether it's for adrenochrome or whatever it may
be. And so I can tell you about
about divulging some some very sensitive information, but there
are people that are are at the top of the food chain that
necessarily do not represent a government, but represent an

(51:47):
industry that makes all of this move Child sick trafficking.
If you look at what came across the border that, you know,
common sense that just didn't happen overnight.
It was orchestrated. That means people took meetings.
This means people had conversations.
That means people supply transportation.
It means money. They exchanged hands between

(52:08):
cartel and US personnel to make it all work.
It means you had to put stops inplace.
You had to put people inside. You had to have a coordinated
effort and a communication system that would be undisturbed
so that you could continue to have your way.
Most people don't know this, butyou know, when we brought a lot

(52:29):
of those children in, you know, they were given to MVM, Catholic
Charities. Why is the CIA a part of MVM?
And MVM was what? You transported the kids across
America and into Europe. Why did we take kids over to
Europe? None of it makes sense.
So what about that money? How many billions of dollars
were laundered so that that could happen?

(52:51):
And what was the purpose of that?
Was it so that we would have oneday kids here that we don't vote
Democrats? Was it because there was money
being made and they didn't really care about the kids?
Or where are the 500 UAC 500,000UA CS, and where the 438,000, if
that's the exact number Americanchildren were missing before
that, we don't see a million children just walking the

(53:13):
streets. So the question is, what's
happening to them? What happened to the commodity?
Where is the commodity? If you look at HHS, they had a
lot of data on that. Most people don't know this.
So when the Biden administrationleft office, they corrupted that
data. Question is, why did they do
that? Now we're having to go back into
HHS, certain people and, you know, fix all of that so that we

(53:37):
can find out where they did go. We know that a lot of kids, we
know this for a fact. A lot of kids were brought in.
They were dropped off to MS13. They were dropped off the
pedophiles. They were dropped off to
sponsors who were not their family members.
So when I look back and we were the first team on the ground for
the night flights that came in in Chattanooga, TN, they were
bringing children in. And I coordinated some of the

(54:00):
operation with TBI, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.
And they said, no, it's on the up and up.
The governor knows, only to havethe governor a week later say, I
didn't know anything about this.So, and sent a report up to ICE
and ICE responded and said the Biden administration is in
charge of this and it's held hishands off.
So the truth of it is, is the Biden administration, including

(54:24):
the president, the vice president and whoever else
authorized it in HHS are listen in.
The crime of child sex trafficking or child trafficking
wasn't something that was approved.
Congress didn't vote on it. The American people didn't vote
on it. And now the mystery is why.
Why? You know, we're still digging in

(54:45):
to find out why. Hey, Baz, if you had any
interaction, she's been on her show.
We're we're friends with her. We we've done everything we can
to support and move Tara Rodas. Tara's a very good friend of
mine, she and I. She was actually up in DC with
me in this last meeting with andCongresswoman Nancy Mason's
office. Yeah, we've had all her people
and her group on the show. We've jumped in and done as much

(55:07):
as we can to expose it. You know, it's it's a struggle
though, right? We, you know, you and I could
look at that and say this is definitely an operation.
People at the highest levels of our government are involved.
Doesn't mean the government's involved.
It means that those individuals are involved and they're using
their power and influence to grease the skids.
You know, there was a story thatI heard from somebody in the

(55:28):
know during the El Chapo hearing.
He started to vocalize all the individuals he had given money
to it within the US government. And then they cleared the
courtroom and they stopped him dead in his tracks.
We also covered a lot of the stories.
And what's interesting that a lot of people don't recognize is

(55:48):
that the open border made the cartels so much money.
They have lifted their game. We got some stuff that we
covered from that one source. I was telling you, these guys
look like the best special forces operators.
Now they are equipped beyond equipped.
They've got AP VS from South Africa.
They bought, you know, lots of weapons from Afghanistan right

(56:10):
off the dark web. You know, Barretts that have all
been traced back that we've seenthis, the, the serial numbers go
right back to the US government.You know, they've got the quad
mono goggles, they've got cell phone jammers, you know,
sophisticated multi antennae jammers that you know, I'm, I'm
talking about the big units thatcost, you know, 40-50, a 100,000
each in the back of SUV. They're running in teams.

(56:31):
They're getting trained by some of the best contractors from
around the world. People don't really recognize
that that money has also escalated this to a whole
different level. You know, George, he mentioned
something. I know this is a hot to try
topic. For you I've been waiting for
this one yeah so bad I mean they'll call us conspiracy

(56:52):
theorists and I'm OK with that label because 99.9% we're we've
been right I want to ask you about adrenochrome because I've
you you can there's places that even sell it but I've seen cars
in other countries with bumper stickers you know for Unicron
coal here what's your take on itand then are people like you

(57:13):
know Hillary Clinton and other notable scumbag politicians and
this is on both sides are they are they taking it like what do
you got I. Don't know if they're taking it,
but I do know the first, first introduction to it, we had a a
girl we rescued and she was giving her her story to us.
We were right putting in a, an Intel package.

(57:34):
And she talked about how she'd been taken to a building, how it
looked like a hospital, how theyhad hooked her up with
electrodes, how they had blood coming out of one arm into the
other arm, and how they would shock her.
And she didn't know what it was all about.
And when she was telling us the story, we didn't know what that
was all about either. We thought, wow, it's like
torture. Why would somebody do that only

(57:56):
to find out about a year later about adrenochrome and going,
wow, that's what they were doing.
So the product is real. You can buy it on the black
market. People know how to get it.
Suppose you know, blood drinkinghas been around for thousands of
years when it comes to giving you strength and beauty and anti
aging. I can't tell you what Hillary

(58:18):
Clinton does or doesn't do with that, but I will tell you this.
It's not working for her if she's doing it but.
Well, that was my next. This is my next.
She's actually inside. Out this is my.
This is my next question. It might not be working because
ever since Epstein's island was and Epstein was taken down, I
think their supply kind of driedout for them.

(58:42):
So yeah, what what what's your, what's your, you got any
experience on Epstein Island knowing like who was there, what
was going on? We were we were punching the
Epstein case 15 years before it got blown up and no one would
listen to us. And that's the way it generally
is with a lot of good NGOs in the field that have access to
intelligence. They're trying to get it going

(59:03):
and no one wants to listen and no one wants to listen.
And eventually something like this happens and we go, yeah,
see, we told you it's a, here's a, here's a good one for you.
I have a file that someone that's no longer in the federal
government gave me of Nancy Pelosi standing next to the
cartel. Question is, why won't anybody
do anything about that? How is it that it went and Obama

(59:26):
saw it and he switched it? So, you know, there's another
one that we have to we have to look into as well.
You know, so there is. Yeah.
How? About that birth certificate,
you know, how about the fact that he never should have been
president of the United States? His own brothers called out.
Lots of information, You know, You know.
How about the fact that the aircraft that brought the

(59:47):
children in was was bankrupt five years earlier and now all
of a sudden they're flying kids in?
And guess who's the shareholdersare?
BlackRock and Vanguard. Would you like a list of all the
senators in Congress that have investments in BlackRock and
Vanguard? We got that too, so.
Yeah, I think BlackRock and Vanguard is a much more
dangerous institution. I had some interactions with

(01:00:08):
them years and years and years ago.
And I think that people are underestimating what they're
really up to. And to me, I, I wouldn't allow
it to go on, but I'd probably becalled a dictator.
I'm one of those guys that would, you know, I wouldn't ask
for permission. I, you know, I would, you know,
hope that maybe the American people would understand after I
expose it. I want to make sure we give you

(01:00:31):
some time. You're a public speaker and all
this. Website's up.
Yeah, I wanna listen cuz, man, we could go on and on and on.
We're gonna. We definitely need to have you
back on the show, maybe bring iton our radio show also, because
I got, I got to tell you, there's so much that you and I
think I probably, we could probably talk about and compare
notes. So let's talk about so you, you,
you clearly you got this incredible operation art going

(01:00:53):
on. You're you're doing motivational
speaking, but let's talk about the acting.
I'm sure everybody wants to knowabout Blacklist.
How did that come about that youkind of we, because I'm, I'm
assuming that maybe you were an advisor on some sets 1st and
then they started to recognize that you were much more than an
advisor, that you had a lot of potential.
Yeah, thanks. Yeah, I had a career.
That's how I pay the bills. As many people know, ARC doesn't

(01:01:14):
get a paycheck for what we do, and we don't pay salaries.
So I require everybody to go do something else to make a living.
Mine just happened to be in the film industry that got started
in the early 90s and and so on this case for the blacklist, I
was actually spending more more of our time buy out in the field
operations. And the executive producer

(01:01:35):
Michael Watkins, great guy. He's the guy that actually saved
the show because most people don't know this the show, the
first six months of the show, itwas going in the toilet pass.
So they called in Michael. And by the way, the guy that
Michael relieved got arrested asa pedophile for being a
pedophile. Are you talking about the
Blacklist show? Yeah, yeah.
Really. It didn't kick off for that

(01:01:56):
while in the beginning? Wow.
No, no it didn't. Not at 1st.
And so Mike came in. And so Mike called me up one day
and he said, hey, we've got thiswarehouse scene.
They're going to take down a warehouse.
I'm wondering if you could come in and teach our stuntmen how to
how to do this. And I said, well, look, I got 1
better than that. What if I just call my own guys
then and, and we just do it for you.

(01:02:17):
And he's like, wow, Because whatwould that cost us?
I said, I don't know, just feed them, put them in a hotel,
that's it. So I called a guy from
Afghanistan I know the guy from.And so I rallied up with a few
of my guys that were all out in the field contracting Lance like
you'd been doing. And they came in and we shot the
scene pretty much all in one or two takes and had a great time

(01:02:41):
doing it. Mike was just amazing.
He just said go map it out for me at lunchtime and tell me what
I need to shoot. And I had known Mike for many,
many years. And so we came back, we shot it
about a week later, maybe 2 weeks later, I think 2 weeks
later, Mike, call me up he goes,you know what, NBC saw you in

(01:03:02):
the editing Bay and they want toknow, would you like to come
back and be Co star on the show as the head of Red Remington's
mercenary? I was like, OK, sure.
Do I have to say anything? He goes, well I can't, I don't
know what you'll have to say. So anyway, I got on the show
that way and I had 4 great seasons with some amazing
people. The show was great.
I, I can't say enough good aboutJames Spader and and everybody

(01:03:24):
else. So that's how I ended up on the
show. Yes, Spader has done a really
interesting job. You know, years ago, I used to
do a lot of on ground logistics and I, I ended up with this, one
of my, one of my call signs was the hand of God because I used
to be able to go into operationsand when things went missing,
like comms or other gear and equipment, I, I created a pretty
decent network of people around the globe and I dealt with lots

(01:03:46):
of individuals, drug Lords and you name it.
And I was able to always find what we needed.
And it was always kind of one ofthose last second, like, uh oh,
where is this? We need this.
And, but it was interesting watching Spader because I've
always thought that the ability to do what he did and the way it
was presented, and I'm sure someof that came from you because we
all know about those individualsyou met over the years, myself

(01:04:09):
included, where there's people that you know, that could get
something when you needed it might not have been through, you
know, legal, a legal network, but you really recognize that,
hey, I know who to call. You probably know somebody here,
give me 15 minutes and I'll, I'll, I'll be back with you guys
in a minute and tell you if I was able to pull this off.
But I thought that was such a great premise.
How much of that came from your background?
Because you know, when you're onthe ground as an operative or

(01:04:31):
you're working as a contractor, there are lots of things that go
on that you have to fix on the fly.
You have to be a problem solver,not a problem causer.
And how much of that came from you?
Because it seemed like when I watched that, there was a friend
of mine that loved that show. He actually told me, hey, this
guy from Blacklist is you got towatch this.
I think it's a lot like you thisbecause he knew my background.

(01:04:54):
He said you got to see this. I think they might have, they
might have used you as part of the casting.
He was joking around, of course.How much of that came from you?
Because it seemed like a lot. Yeah.
You know what's interesting? Well, actually less than you
would imagine booking camp. And those guys did a great job.
Now, I would in Mike's office, Iwould offer some things up, but

(01:05:15):
they pretty much let me run how I would run an operation, you
know, on on camera, just do my thing, so to speak.
And and, and, and they knew it was solid, but I have to give
credit really to the writers. I, I'd love to be the one to say
they called me in as an advisor on this and that show was

(01:05:36):
everything I gave, but that wasn't it.
I don't know where they were getting their content from, but
I will say this, and it's fascinating.
You know, they talked about DeepState.
I mean, I, these guys had it down.
They really had it down. They.
Really did. Because and they knew and a
couple times I had people come to me and go would say, so is
that how it's really done? And it's like, yeah, I don't
know how you guys know that, butyeah, that's how it's done.

(01:05:58):
You know, there was an individual, there was an
individual that a lot of governments dealt with years
ago, guy named, and you might know this name, Monzar Alcazar,
the Peacock out of Belgium. Yeah.
And it's, it's interesting that I always thought about that
because through him I was able to make a lot of contacts that I
used usually. And I always thought that when I

(01:06:19):
watched that show, I thought, you know, it's interesting,
Whoever's advising them has really gotten so much of this
correct, that that's how those networks at the higher levels
really worked. And I, I thought that a lot of
the people in the public probably were like, no, come on,
this is how could that be? But in fact, it was accurate
because it, I, I would imagine that if you left, if you and I
sat down, we had Sarah Adams on the show.

(01:06:41):
You know, she was Acia, you know, Overwatch or you kind of
know her background. I I imagine if we sat down with
a piece of paper and you made a list of different individuals,
you're like, Oh yeah, here's a guy somebody should look into or
here's another guy. That network is like that.
And I think a lot of people didn't recognize it.
You and you did an amazing job on the show.
And I think the authenticity youbrought was really spot on.

(01:07:03):
And I always respect that. There's something I hate worse
than a gunfight with an unlimited, you know, magazine,
you know, or, or watching guys, you know, do a room entry and
you know, you could see that they would have been shooting
each other by the way they did it, you know, So the the
accuracy that you provided, at least I I always appreciate
that, I guess, and maybe old, old operative or old pipe

(01:07:24):
hitters, you know, and I'll speak for myself.
There's nothing I can't stand worse than watching it.
A fight interaction that isn't that is not correct.
You, you're like, no, no, you. You'd be dead.
Yeah, it was good. They gave me good liberty to for
accuracy. I think that was important to
everybody. But yeah, just like, just like

(01:07:45):
you're saying, I think they did an amazing job.
I was, I was actually amazed when I finally had a chance to
go back and look at some of the episodes and the storylines.
It's like, wow. And what's so interesting about
that is it was almost, it was almost prophetic because after
we came out of the first couple of seasons of the Blacklist, we
started taking a look at the country differently and then

(01:08:07):
where Deep state started coming out and the ball started being
used. And so ironically, it is where
we are right today. You know, we need another James
Spader to be honest with you, another another red Redington.
Honestly, you know, when we're talking about accountability,
because what they want to do is what they always do.
If they can hold off on accountability by two

(01:08:29):
generations, the new generationscoming up won't care.
For example, if I were to tell you, hey, we know who
assassinated Abraham Lincoln. It was these five individuals
and they were part of the Democratic Party.
Who would care if I, well, that wasn't in my time.
And, and, and we've gotten better since then.
And we didn't have any control over that.
And they do that every single time.

(01:08:50):
That's what that's what Hillary does.
That's what she's doing. She's getting, she's trying to
string out everything and and other people as well to the
point that they'll be a generation that doesn't even
know who she is. So when they end up in a
position like on a trial or as ajudge, whatever, it doesn't mean
anything to them because people aren't about taking evidence and

(01:09:12):
holding people accountable for their crimes any longer.
You know, if George or myself, George, I'm going to throw to
you if, if, if you and I used bleach bit and a hammer to get
rid of evidence. But you know, we know what that
would be, right? You know, fucking just lock us
up and throw away the key. Are you kidding me?
Yeah, you know, and that's the thing about it when, when they

(01:09:32):
come after. You we'll be labeled domestic
terrorist too, because we had classified information on a
personal server. Yeah, you know, and that's the
thing, you know, and, and that'swhat I think that I, I struggle
with, even with with the Trump administration, we've been a big
supporter. I was hopeful that we would see,
you know, through Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel and

(01:09:54):
others. I thought we'd see more
accountability and I thought we'd see it more swiftly because
there's a lot of things that I don't think take an incredible
amount of work. They've got the evidence.
You know, it's kind of like whatthey're finding now.
They covered up everything aboutthe Chinese and the elections.
Well, George and I covered that maybe a year and a half two
years ago. We, we, we, we had photos, we
got a hold of, we worked pretty closely with the NFSC, which is

(01:10:15):
the anti Communist Party, you know, the new federal state of
China. And we got copies of photos and
all sorts of stuff about these places that were printing
ballots and the places that wereproviding IDs.
And we talked about it, the counterfeit ID operations, the
counterfeit ballot operations. And, you know, and, and, and,
and other than our audience, it was crickets.
You know, it doesn't. There's an operation I know

(01:10:36):
about. I've got a source.
They, they keep talking about their, their big plan here is to
seal up the southern border and they've got a plan, of course.
And, and you know, the, the tariffs are going to stop the
Chinese from bringing in the precursors or fentanyl,
carfentanyl, methamphetamine. Well, the Chinese don't care.
They've got a second operation already set up in Asia that
they've got legitimate pharmaceutical companies that

(01:10:57):
with billions in offshore accounts.
I've got all the information. I've got a source that I can
bring to them. I sent some information in.
Crickets, you know, and that's, that's the tricky part, you
know, you wonder what's going tomake a difference.
Listen, Baz, we're out of time for today.
But first of all, man, we got tohave you back on the show.
I think there's so much to talk about with you and I don't think
we did it. Fair.
Take one second, George. I'm going to do one thing, Baz.

(01:11:19):
Tell them where to find you on social media, where they can buy
your books and where they can get involved.
Maybe with ARK really quickly. Well, thank you.
Ark is recovery of children.org is our website,
recoveryofchildren.com. We'll give you to where our
training classes are. We have some of those the six
day fight child trafficking equipping course, bossbooks.com,
you can buy the books and Basel Dash boss.com.

(01:11:42):
We'll take you to my personal website.
So thank you guys for having me.I appreciate.
It man, love the interview. Stick around for a minute.
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that going to have the shoulder scoped old warrior injury.
That's what happens at the end of the day.
Thank you guys so much for joining us.
Basil badge find him on social media.
Follow him. I think this guy is going to be
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