Former Proud Boys Leader Enrique Tarrio |EP586

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George B Man, there's a shit load going on this morning
already. Lots of stuff rocking and
rolling. How are you brother?
How's it going on over in New Jersey right now?
We finally got nice weather. It's not raining.
I want to give a shout out to Buckeye, Mcgreen and Miss Leslie
S something. I don't know.
Miss Leslie? Yes.
Yeah. Then we got 360 lady A, we've

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got a bunch of new people in here, but the other two are
these. One of them said they're mods
for Doctor Mike Schwartz and I says, well, I might have to
steal you. So I.
Don't know exactly that's. How I roll, Leslie, that's how I
roll. If you want info, I mean e-mail
me at info@thebigmig.com. But anyways.
Yeah, well. Today's a good day, I guess.

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These non-stop kinetic events, you know what I'm talking about.
It's going on and on and on and on.
And there always, always seems to be this problem in the Middle

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Let's get started, brother. Dude, we got to do some other
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also, So we're excited about it.You know, cry babies.
That's how I'm going to start the show today.
I'm tired of the freaking whining.
God, there's so much whining andno action.

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All talks, no action and people just putting on an act, trying
to get in the news cycles, posting online, being paid to
post. You know, I'm going to say it
again because I know DJT has watched the show before.
Maybe he's watching today. Hey, you got you got a bunch of
laws on the books, FTCFCC laws. Why don't you enforce them?
Why don't you force these peopleto tell the American public

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who's getting paid to post, who's getting paid for
interviews, who's getting paid for this stuff?
Why don't you make them follow the law?
We do it on the show. We have a sponsor, you guys know
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You've seen the other sponsors come in.
We make it very clear at the endof the day, why isn't everybody

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else being held to that standard?
And this guy, Padilla #1, I didn't even know him prior to
this, but this, this acting, crying routine, I think he took
some acting lessons from Newsom,but somebody put this together
in the exact way that when I seethese people crying, what's in
the back of my mind all. Right.
Sorry, no. It's OK.

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I was doing. So we're doing what we're doing,
brother. Let's just play that quick clip,
yeah? I'm playing it.
I was forced. To the ground 1st.
On my knees. And been flat on my.
Chest. And it was.

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Handcuffed and marched down a hallway, repeatedly asking why
am I being detained? Why am I being detained?
Talk about pathetic. You know, when you're lucky
enough, and I guess in some cases it's not luck, it's being

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installed. But when you've actually been
legitimately voted into Congress, you ought to really
think about the kind of crap that comes out of your mouth
and, and, and the persona you put out in public.
You're acting as if you didn't weaponize our own judicial
system against so many Americansover the years.
Department of Justice is weaponized.
I'm still not happy with Pam Bondi's results.

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I assumed there'd be much quicker accountability and
consequences for people like TheDirty 51 + 8.
I thought they would overturn the pardons of Joe Biden and we
get a chance to take a shot at the J6 committee and many
others. But of course, nada.
Haven't heard shit. Now all of a sudden we hear that
China was involved in the elections.
Well, George and I have been talking about that for a year

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and a half. In fact, there's a story that
showed up in the Gateway Pundit.I feel like I probably gave a
lot of that information to the Gateway Pundit and they may have
forgotten that goes about the counterfeiting ballot machines
in China, all the equipment thatwas actually counterfeiting.
They they're saying they got it from the Chinese, some kind of
Chinese Intel source. I'm telling you that I got that
from the NFSC and many other sources.

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You guys know, we're intertwinedwith the NFSC.
They provide us a lot of Intel that we put out, which is the
anti CCP and we just showed thatstuff.
Just a short piece of it. George, what show was that?
We just went over that. The last show or the one before
we just talked about China? I think 2 shows ago I want.

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To get 2 shows ago I showed you videos of the equipment now all
of a sudden they're putting the story up but great I'm happy
they're putting the story up butthe FBI should have been all
over to begin with I I don't want to leave them backstage to.
Hold on, I just want to give a shout out.
Yeah, please, because the 2 modsmiss Leslie and I don't know.
I know the, I don't know the other one, but the the Mike
Schwartz show just finished and they rated our show, which is

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means they sent their listeners over.
So we appreciate the Mike Schwartz Show.
Thank you very much. Absolutely.
Leslie, e-mail me. We'll talk.
Yeah. And I, if you can give us
contact and do it for Mike and the team over there, I'd like to
thank him for doing the raid forus.
We need to find somebody to do araid for.
We need to do the same. Thing somebody after our show,
but I got somebody we know. Anyway, we definitely need to do

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that. So I want to thank Mike Schwartz
personally for doing that for us.
We really appreciate that, Mike,but we'd like to do the same for
you at some point. Whatever we can do to help you.
All right, listen, we've got Enrique Theriault backstage.
You know, you guys know his name.
It always gets tagged with the proud Boy, but I, but I really
truly believe Enrique has a lot more than just that one label.
You know, I asked ChatGPT to give me 5 words to describe him

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last night and interesting what they chose and I think it was
accurate. They said defiant, polarizing,
charismatic, ideological, controversial.
You know, they liked it. When you go look at his BIOS,
they always got to use American far right.
Is he really American far right?Sure.
You know, he's former chairman of the Proud Boys, and a lot of

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people know about their involvement in the political
America First agenda. But when I put that, when you
look, when you type in Proud Boy, there's nothing but
negativity. And what happened to being
proud, being proud as an American?
You know, he's, he's gone to, herose to prominence, of course,
organizing rallies, including the Stop the Steal, which I was
a supporter of preceding the January 6, 2020 US capital, you

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know, Fed surrection. But of course, when I typed that
in, what did they come up with? The US 6/20/21 capital attack,
you know, I love the way they always want to label, doesn't
matter whether it's Google or otherwise.
They continue to try to brainwash the American public.
That was a fed surrection. It's very clear they were set
up. They used less lethal munitions

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to agitate the crowd. It was a peaceful protest.
They opened up the capital. They, you know, none, nobody in
the, in the, you know, the, the protest opened up those magnetic
doors. It's impossible to do so.
They were opened up from the inside and then people went in
and they used the bathroom. You've seen the videos.
Yeah, some stuff popped off. But what happens when you start
hitting people with, you know, bean bags and flash bangs?

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They were using smoke in the crowd to communicate.
So, you know, there was militaryand law enforcement in the
crowd. Anybody that knows anything
about that, Of course, as a government contractor, we use
smoke many times to communicate.You guys know how it works for
the guys out there that are veterans in our audience.
But of course, you guys know, onthe January 20, 2025, deservedly
so, Enrique received a full pardon and an unconditional

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pardon. And that was a part of the
sweeping clemency that PresidentTrump was wise enough to go
ahead and do because he knew these people had been set up and
they'd fought on the behalf of really the country.
Not so much him. But, you know, the word
seditious conspiracy was mused so many times to describe
Enrique. And I know a lot about the law.
You guys know, I, I've got a couple paralegal degrees and I,

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I study the law constantly and I'm always looking at that.
Let me tell you something. If you want to talk about
treason and seditious conspiracy, we should be talking
about members of Congress. We should be talking about
members of the judiciary, members of the DOJ.
But that's not what happens. Let's bring Enrique in.
There's no reason to leave him backstage.
I feel like I've known him for forever.
What do you? Think one second, one second.

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So you had too much coffee, right?
I could tell already, Ricky. That's how he does.
But Doctor Mike Schwartz said hegoes, dude, I've been on your
show, I know you can't see. I told him you can't see the
Rumble chatter, and you know what's going on.
I told him I said I know you're on the show.
Lance didn't realize who it was.No, but I was thanking him for
rating us. Yeah, yeah, I really appreciate.
I wanted to thank him in person.Welcome to the big, big show,

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Enrique Tario. I I swear, I think I should have
worn my my hat and sunglasses today.
I don't know. But.
I do me. I'm a rebel.
I I don't. I don't go with conformity.
So I'd be myself. It's good, yeah, but now you're
a minority on this show. You're a.
Minority bro. I could just mute you guys and
that's it. I could just put myself on the
screen. I'll be the majority, you know

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what I mean? So Enrique, I don't know if I
did you justice on your bio. I like, you know, I kind of dug
that up just, you know, picking pieces.
And the problem was is that mostof the pieces they wanted to
force feed me had something negative to say about you.
You know, it's interesting how much that's been weaponized.
But you know, I like to always start with people and and

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because I know what the moment was for me, I know how I got not
converted into not being able tosit on the sidelines.
And I'm sure politically there had to be a moment when you said
this is bullshit and I just can't stand by and continue to
let it go on. So I guess I started that moment
for me was in 2004. You know, I didn't get pretty

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much involved into politics because of Donald Trump in 2016.
I got involved in 2004. Unfortunately, I got involved
with trying to get George W elected for the second time, and
I've worked every general, midterm and special elections.
And then obviously in 2016, something electric happened and

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we got the best president since George Washington elected.
And and then moving forward, youknow, I don't want to spend too
much time on like a little bit of the bio, I guess, moving
forward. I joined this group called the
Proud Boys, which was a a very tiny group.
And people always ask what the Proud Boys are about.
And depending on who you have onthis chair right here is depend

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is is what answer you're going to get get because we're not a
focused group, but we try to make better men.
And then Fast forward into the stolen election of 2020.
We were in the streets of DC protesting that stolen election
multiple times. January 6 happens and I guess

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we'll get into that. And then subsequently, I was
pardoned by the president, like you said, fully and
unconditionally. And I fully and unconditionally
support the President of the United States right now.
You know, and, and, and, and of course for us, we really, I, I
really didn't start to it. It really came, came about 2007

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or 8. I started to really look at what
was going on. I kind of knew the government
from a different position. I'd been a government contractor
and I'd worked for lots of different governments and worked
all over the globe. And I got to see it, some of
this stuff from the inside and I, I recognized how corrupt they
really were and what was really going on, especially
internationally. I travelled to 41 different
countries back then when I was acontractor.

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And you know, for me it, it, it kind of became a moment where I
just saw what they're doing. Of course, I've had my own
interactions with the government.
They've never been great. They don't like when you're a
vocal advocate to, to expose thetruth anytime you're over the
target. You know, we get the same thing
that I'm sure happens to you, the death threats, the
undermining and they try to label you in a way that pigeon

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holes you and and they don't want to hear the word patriot,
right. They don't want to hear that.
So you you know, you've been called a lot of stuff and one of
the things most controversially political figure in in of
course, in recent memory. How do you define yourself
today? You got the pardon, you're out.
How do you define yourself activist patriot something else?
What's what's really behind whatyou think now?

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None of those actually, I'm just, I'm just a concerned
person and I don't think, I don't think I say anything
different than anybody else. Like I'm, I don't, I'm not a
scholar. I don't sit here and break
things down for you. Like I see it how it is.
So I'm a, I'm a concerned citizen and a person that knows

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that you can't just you could bea concerned citizen, but you're
not going to make any changes unless you're loud or unless you
get off your ass and do something.
And I've always done that. You know, in 2004, it was, it
was a very quick transition frombeing somebody that was
concerned into somebody that wanted to act.

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It took about two weeks before Istarted watching what was
happening in the 2004 election and I was knocking on doors 2
weeks later. Given the fact that what we've
seen in this country, like you said, like we, we've, we've gone
through a period of, of radical change when it comes to the

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Republican Party, and I couldn'tbe happier about that.
So with that, I tell you, Lance,that I, I, I'm not different
than your listeners that are watching him right now.
And the only difference right now the, the reason why I'm on
this show and the reason why youcan Google my name and stuff
like that isn't isn't it? It's because of the left,

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because of those labels, becausethey labeled me a white
supremacist. I'm Cuban.
My first language is Spanish. I'm.
Laughing. Hold on, I'm laughing because
somebody to chat I was waiting to ask you goes by.
Definitely not Karen. So is this the guy that my TV
told me was the face of white supremacy?
And he just. Brought it out.
I was waiting to bring that up to you, but that's why I'm
laughing. I've been called.
A white supremacist. Cuban.

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He's Cuban, but he's white supremacist.
Go figure. I'm.
Just bad at it. I guess I'm just poor at being a
white supremacist, but yeah, you.
Suck man, most people are worried.
Our you know, we don't for the Proud Boys, we don't care what
race, religion, cultural background you're from.
If you're born a man, which is crazy that you got to say that

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in 2025. If you're born a man and you
believe that the West is the Best Western civilization is the
best civilization, we welcome you with open arms.
We're drinking club first beforeanything.
And we're not a political peoplethink we're a political group.
We're not. Do we have issues like like
issues culturally that are goingon in America?
Yes, that and that's what we focus on.

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We don't focus too much on the on the politics of the situation
and we have different focuses, right.
So like my focus is St. activism.
Some of the guys focus is more like they do they protest at
drag queen story hour. You know, the guys love
protesting those things because it's so wrong.

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Socialization of the children are so you mean.
Grooming Grooming Story Hour. On this show, we call it
Grooming Story Hour. That's exactly what it does.
And you know, there's guys, 90% of my guys, the most political
thing that they've done and the most like activist style thing
that they've done is just go to the ballot box and the general

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or the midterms, some of them don't come out, you know, and
that's, that's what the fraternity's for.
It's it's the Brotherhood and 1st.
Yeah, and it's, you know, it's really interesting.
And and then George that I know myself, my upbringing was
completely non political. My parents got their political
beliefs from the TV back then. It was black and white.

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You know, it kind of tells you my age and I was I I was the
remote basically flipping the CBS or ABC or, you know,
adjusting the rabbit ears with the tinfoil on them.
We had a black and white. We didn't have a lot of money.
I grew up in a relatively very, very, very low income family.
And you know, so at the end of the day, George, I know your

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upbringing, your parents kind ofwere political somewhat.
I don't know whether that impacted your beliefs now.
I don't know. I wouldn't say they were
political growing up. My, my, my mother told me when
she immigrated here, legally, I might add.
Everybody is. They asked her what they asked
her, what's your political affiliation?
She goes and it was Kennedy and Jacqueline Kennedy at the time

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that she picked them just because she knew Jacqueline
Kennedy the way she was. And then she switched to
Republican after so many years. Nah, my.
Fix wasn't really big in our house back then.
I think it, I think it became big when Reagan started coming
around. Sorry.
And, and I'm going to defer to you on this, Enrique.
I know you, your upbringing, youwere in Little Havana.
You know, you got a Cuban heritage.

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Do you feel like that influencedsome of your stance on
government freedom and maybe even the constitution?
Did that have an impact? Because of course, we know
what's going on down in Cuba. Yeah.
So I was raised in a very political household, a very
right wing household because obviously you guys have seen
what's been going on in Cuba. And when Castro took over the

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island, he didn't come praising communism.
He he came in praising freedom and liberty and things like
that. He only became a communist after
the fact due to his brother and Che Guevara.
Now when the when the revolutionaries, when the Cuban

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revolutionaries were taking overthe island, they, they happened
upon farm, a tobacco farm and they, they needed to use it as a
forward operating base for the revolution.
And they knocked on the door andthey asked the people that lived
there, they asked if they could use it as a base for the

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revolution. And they said no.
So they went back to the tree line and not that tree line was
Che Guevara himself. Che Guevara gave the order.
The revolutionaries went back tothe house, got the two adult
males from the house, put them on their knees, tied their hands
behind their back and shot them in the back of the head.
Those two individuals had my last name, shared my last name

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because they were my family members.
So when my, my family fled over here in the early 60s, legally,
they obviously were very political.
So I was born with it. As a matter of fact, every
morning at my house, you know, my dad comes in, my grandfather
comes by and they're in here speaking about politics.

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There's usually like 10-15 people at my house every at 9:00
in the morning. It's always about politics.
Like today, I, I, I heard them arguing because they're on both
sides of the Iran Israeli conflict that's going on in the
Middle East. So they were arguing for a very
long time about that. So, yeah, I was raised very
politically charged. My aunt was one of the

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assistants for Charlie Crist, unfortunately, and Jeb Bush
during their tenure as governor of Florida.
Gotcha. Let me.
Blow your mind real quick. Hold on.
Let me blow your mind. So I got family in Cuba, right?
My aunt used to be Fidel Castro's mistress.
And oh wow. She brought, she broke it off
right before he was going into power because of that reason.

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Yeah, yeah. You can't talk bad.
She she passed away, but you couldn't say a bad word about
Fidel in front of her. Yeah, forget about.
It and that's hard to find. That's hard to find here in
Miami. You know, we got the big exile
community. I go visit the what's called
Zabarigala Venti Cinco SE Dosay,which is 25-O6 assault brigade,

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the CIA LED group that tried to go into Cuba during the Bay of
Pigs invasion and got screwed over by Kennedy at the time.
But for the most part, yeah, I, I, I can't say that I wasn't
brought up in a, in a non political household.
It started very young. And, and you said a word.

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I'm, I'm sorry. You said a word in the beginning
and people label me far right. Depending on what your
definition of the word is. I'd say that's true.
You know, cuz, cuz Cubans, Cubans, especially Cuban males
are, are, are the biggest, not biggest.
But we vote Republican more thanany other category or

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subcategory when it comes to elections.
We vote more right wing than adult white males, whether
they're college educated or not.So maybe maybe that far right
label might be depending on who's asking, that far right
label might be accurate. You know, it's interesting, you

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know, we, we, of course we, we probably started out, you know,
our originally, we started our show.
We were probably labeled very directly, you know, far right
conspiracy theorists, you know, because a lot of the stuff we
covered was the uncomfortable topics and we were up and over
the target. I've got some pretty good
resources and George has some pretty good sources.
We get some pretty good Intel onwhat's really going on in the

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government. But at the end of the day, I
don't know if you know the the terminology.
Far right is tricky for me because I always think the far
right is really pro country. When I look at our government
and I look at the division and chaos and the destruction from
within and the intent right. And it doesn't matter whether
it's the bribery, coercion or, or, or maybe even the, the

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compromising of government officials.
I look at what goes on there. You can talk about book deals,
you can talk about foreign money, you can talk about
foundations, Ng OS, super PACs, the lobbyists.
So many ways the individuals in our government are controlled.
And it's interesting, you know. The whole government's fucked
up, Lance. Yeah, you see the conversion and
I think January 6th is such a prime example of that.

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God, I look at what happened there and I look at what really
happened during this. And we got, you know, right
away. We got suspended on YouTube, I'm
sure because it was our stance on the feds direction.
I'm sure it was our stance on, you know, posting about truth in
vaccines and and the rest of it.They chose that we posted some
CDC and Vera's information and make that the point that just

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right then suspend us and it looks like it's a permanent
suspension. I don't know that we'll ever be
back on there. That's why Rumble and locals are
our home base really and they treat us really well over here.
We can talk about whatever we want and there isn't any
suppression. It's true free speech, but you
know, a lot of people get a lot of things wrong about.
And George, you and I have talked about this so often about

(27:35):
January 6th, what they got wrongabout the Proud Boys, what they
get wrong about the event. But one thing.
You weren't even at the Capitol.Yeah, I was just gonna brought
that up. One thing that kills me is on
Capital Six, Enrique Torre, he he got the most fucked up,
harshest sentence of any of the defendants and he wasn't even
there. How is that possible?

(27:55):
That's a crazy thing. And the worst is worse is we
have a we have a majority Congress right now, Senate and
they ain't doing shit about nothing.
I mean, how do you get a sentence of 22 years and you're
not even there? I'm.
It's 3 words. Corruption as finest.
Go ahead. How it happens is Joseph R

(28:16):
Biden. He is the reason why we were
locked up and and the end goal wasn't us, right?
Wasn't January 6 years as a whole.
The end goal was President Trump.
I'm going to bring up something that I think a lot of people get
wrong. So we keep when, when Trump was
indicted on all these cases, we call them like the the documents

(28:40):
case, we call them the New York case.
But the one that struck me a little bit was they called it
the, the, the Washington one. They called it the DC, the
January 6th case. The indictment of Donald Trump
in DC was not a January 6th casebecause if you read the
indictment, it has nothing to dowith actually what happened on

(29:02):
the ground on January 6th that day.
They were accusing him of like, you know, manipulating the
election other ways by calling the Georgia Secretary of State
or whatever. We know it's all bullshit
anyways. But one thing that was striking
on that indictment, it, it didn't really mention the riot
where he the, the, I'm using airquotes, the riot that supposedly

(29:25):
Donald Trump started. And the reason for that is
because they didn't have a connection to Donald Trump.
Before my trial started, which is the longest trial in DC
history, They asked me. They told me that I'd I'd go

(29:45):
Scott free, I'd get out on bail,and I wouldn't have to serve
another day in jail if I were just to go with their story that
Donald Trump told me through a third party to storm the Capitol
on January 6th. Who specifically said that to
you if you don't mind me asking,if you can say?
It's, it's the prosecutors on the case.

(30:05):
One is name's Jason McCullough. Another one is Special Agent
Nicole Miller, which we have sued including we have as of a
week and a half ago, we, we launched the first lawsuit to do
with January 6th. We're seeking 100 million in
punitive damages and another probably 150 million in

(30:26):
compensation. But for the most part, they
wanted to do that because they wanted to indict Donald Trump
for the events that happened at the Capitol that day.
And I was their only connection at the time.
I refused. And that is one of the reasons
why I got 22 years. I'm not and, and, and just to,

(30:46):
just to hit that far right thingbecause of what happened in the
Capitol. I, I guess I'm considered
further right. I, I asked people all the time,
people that don't like me, like what, what part of my views are
radical? Like what, what is it?
What's extreme about my views that I want to put America
first. The, the most extreme view that
I hold, and I don't think it's extreme is that there's 22,000

(31:10):
gun laws in this country and 22,000 of them are
unconstitutional. Other than that, I don't they,
they try to use the far right and we know exactly what they're
saying With that. It goes, it goes back to the
age-old insult that they're trying to label us as racist,
right? That's exactly what that means.

(31:30):
I'm not, I'm not stupid because there's nothing far about our
views. You know, I, I, I want to put
America first. Anything that that doesn't, I
want it out. Anything that harms America, I
wanted out. The sexualization of children, I
wanted out. So I don't understand what
what's so extreme about my viewsbecause they're pretty much

(31:52):
aligned with the president's views and the views of a lot of
your viewers. That is a terminology we use on
the show. Common sense.
Common sense would say that if they didn't look at you through
the optics of a created and falsified narrative, that what
you just said, no, American willshouldn't think that that's

(32:13):
common sense that that's not good for the country.
You know, nobody wants grooming in the schools.
If you think about it, do you really want your children
groomed? Do you really want, you know,
these kind of policies from our own government that seemed to be
structured to the country like unlimited spending?
But that's common sense. We talked to our audience and
I'll say it to the audience right now, we always tell them,
don't worry about what you if, if you don't like what George

(32:34):
and I said, if you don't feel like it's common in a sense,
then go look it up. Go take a look at the story we
just presented. Go see if what we're telling you
is true. If it's true, come up with your
own conclusions. That's what free speech is
about. But at the end of the day, if
what you're hearing somebody say, and I don't care whether
it's the some of the top broadcasters in all media, I
don't care if it's mainstream media, I don't care if it's this
government, if what they're saying to you makes you go, that

(32:58):
doesn't sound like good common sense.
I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me why we would be
involved in that or why we woulddo that.
You know, I always say walks like a duck, talks like a duck,
It's a duck. And George, you and I cover that
so often. You know, we talk about the,
the, the policies of, you know, these really controlled
narratives and they do such a good job.

(33:18):
And some people like to use the terminology, you know, Operation
Mockingbird, but it's so much more sophisticated than the
early CIA operation. They've really taken it to a
whole different level. And I think it's because of the
unlimited budget and the fact that, you know, $4.7 trillion
can be sent out and not earmarked correctly within their
own budget system. And nobody's going down for

(33:40):
that. Nobody faces the consequences.
You know, George, I mean, you and I, I don't know how many
times we've covered that. What's crazy like Enrique,
listen, IA lot of us have been put through like the system in
one way or another where false. But you look at with look at
Donald Trump with all those bullshit cases, the way they
they changed statue of limitations brought up these

(34:00):
fake arrests and and just look at January 6th.
You would think that they five months in that they'd be working
on revamping the DOJ, the justice system.
So this won't happen to people to any anybody.
It was I mean, it was actually an eye opening for the for the
world to see when they did it toTrump because they've been doing

(34:21):
that for years, for years upon years, especially the inner city
folks. They've been doing it because
they can't afford lawyers. Now you have a billionaire, ex
president billionaire and for for the best.
Larson still got put through theringer.
But listen, getting getting what?
This is rough. Like what was your reaction when
that verdict came down 22 years for conspiracy and your thoughts

(34:45):
at the moment? I mean, I can just imagine.
I I mean, it's got to be crazy. Like what?
What was going through your yourmind at that second, at that
time? I wasn't worried.
I knew one way or another the injustice was going to be made
right. We had three paths to release. 1

(35:05):
was appeals, which we did have avery good case.
The second path was the Supreme Court.
And if because our justice system's all fucked up.
So even if you don't have any faith in those, I did have faith
in one person when human. And his name's Donald J Trump.
I knew for a fact that if DonaldJ Trump were elected the 47th

(35:31):
president of the United States, that his first act as president
would be to right the wrongs of the Justice Department.
I obviously I couldn't vote, butI supported the president for
one reason, one reason alone. And it wasn't to fix the
economy. It wasn't to fix the issues that

(35:51):
we have with our foreign policy,although he's done all of those.
It was for retribution. It was for retaliation.
And what is retribution? Retaliation.
It's not violence, it's accountability.
And what we're seeing right now,I'm treading very carefully
because we do have legal actionsagainst the government right
now. And just to give you a little

(36:15):
tidbit, and in 2021, when Biden took power and and he appointed
Merrick Garland to be the Attorney General of the United
States by this time, by this time, June 19th, by this time,
he already had arrested 500 January Sixers and taken action

(36:36):
against other Trump supporters. Those people that were arrested,
some of them got to push their trials past the 2024 election
and past the inauguration of Donald Trump.
The reason why I tell you that it's important because if we

(36:59):
don't start seeing these arrestssoon by the people that
weaponized the justice system during the Biden administration,
they might, they, they might usedelay tactics to go past the
next election, which we don't know what's going to happen at
that election. They could steal another one.

(37:19):
So it, it's important. I understand it takes time to
build these cases, but my patience is is wearing thin
because I know the system, I know how corrupt the system is
and how easily it is to delay justice when it comes to these
people. And, and I think that we need to

(37:40):
really start taking a look at who is leading some of these
departments. And I think the president should
start looking at that inaction. Is is is going to screw us
because we know exactly what's going to come.
If the Democrats win the 2028 election or steal the 2028

(38:01):
election, We will all be in chains.
There is no doubt. I'm not going back, I think.
That's such an important point you just made.
And I think that what people don't realize is that and what,
and what I'm seeing a little bitof a then I'm not thrilled about
is that they seem to be only focused on what happened to
Donald Trump. The Department of Justice and
our judiciary have been weaponized for an extremely long

(38:23):
time against the American people.
Most people haven't had participation in an indictment
or the incarceration system. And when you have that
knowledge, when you when you have that past experience, you
recognize the criminality of so much what goes on that there is
no real relief. And we're going to go into the
details of that. And we I know we've got to take
a short break. After the break, I want to talk

(38:44):
about a little bit about the DOJand maybe talk about some of the
things that you can talk about because that's one thing people
don't know. And I think we need to pull back
the veil more so than ever now why we've got an administration
that has faced the consequences of a weaponized legal system.
Of course, stay tuned. We'll be back with Enrique
Terrio at Lance Miliaco and George Ballantine here at the

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Where we at? Well, look, it won't be the
first time you guys have heard me say this is that the majority

(45:07):
of public has had no interactionwith the Department of Justice
and even the name is incorrect in my opinion.
I don't believe it's the Department of Justice.
I think the issue we have is that our our judiciary and the
DOJ are, are they conspire together.
What you see a lot of times in judicial orders is that they sue

(45:28):
aspante for the government. They were literally put in case
law. They will put in arguments that
the government's never argued. And you understand as a judge,
what you're supposed to do when you get to the door is you're
supposed to not have any bias. You're supposed to leave your
bias at the door, your politicalbias, your personal bias.
And you're supposed to listen towhat defense presents,
petitioner or the defendant presents.

(45:49):
And you're supposed to listen with the Department of Justice
presents. And then what you're supposed to
do is make a determination. If it's not a jury trial, you're
supposed to make a determinationbased on what's presented.
You are not supposed to insert new cases, new political
arguments. You're not supposed to do what's
happened across the country withour own president right now that

(46:12):
the judiciary has been pushed, looking at their political
beliefs to try to stop Donald Trump.
They call him a dictator. They call him a king.
That's not their role. Their role is as a neutral
party. And I can tell you that I know
he can't say too much right now.I can tell you the people like
Enrique Theriot and many others for decades have faced the

(46:34):
consequences of a weaponized, you know, judicial system and a
legal system. This isn't something new.
I've talked about it on this case, Securus Technologies, US
versus Novak, the DOJ and othershave been eavesdropping on legal
phone calls and you have a rightto legal phone calls that are

(46:56):
not recorded, that are not listened to by the Constitution,
but they do. And they, you, you don't have to
listen. Believe me.
You can go on to Google right now, of which even Google, you
know, you know how the results are.
From there, go to Brave, go to anything else you trust as far
as the search engine and type inSecurus Technologies
eavesdropping on phone calls. The reason I bring that up is
not because of that, that one issue, But know this, if that's

(47:19):
a crime, you have violated wiretapping laws, you have
violated people's due process rights, their constitutional
rights. Yet nobody, and I say nobody so
far today has faced any consequences, meaning that there
have been no prosecutors criminally charged.
There have no, there have been no judges ruling in favor of
prosecutors facing those consequences.

(47:40):
This goes on and on and, and, and the oversight bodies, the
OIG, the Office of Professional Responsibility, the public
integrity vision that goes by PIN, the civil rights division
and even the bar associations across the country.
These people don't even face sanctions.
They're supposed to be face consequences for that.
They have committed crimes just like if it was just myself,

(48:00):
Enrique Tero, George, if we committed these crimes, if we
eavesdrapped or wiretapped on the DOJI can promise you that
they would be kicking in my doorright now, throwing in some
flash bangs and throwing me to the ground.
Probably because of my background.
They talk about me like I was James Bond and none of it would
go well when we got to court. And that's what they do.
You know, I I know you can't sayvery much.

(48:22):
You, you know, when you first got arrested, Enrique, you know,
and and I and I know you got bounced around.
They wanted to give you as much diesel therapy as possible, I'm
sure. What kind of stuff did you see
that you can actually talk about?
And I don't know what you can because of your case when it
came to the way you were treatedpost of your first.
And I don't mean when you got finally to your final spot, I

(48:44):
mean why they were bouncing you around.
What kind of behavior, what kindof crimes did the DOJ commit to
maybe are in your court case? And you can actually say these
are listed in my court case. Is there anything like that you
can talk about? Well, first and foremost, Lance,
I I don't want to take away fromthe pain and suffering that
Mister Padilla, Senator Padilla went through.

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You know, he he had it so much worse than I did.
Yeah, Yeah. Poor bastard.
Yeah. I mean, the tears that that the
alligator tears, I agree with you.
You know, congressional member of Padilla, he suffered.
He suffered unbelievable. Yeah.
The problem is, is because in his his, in his own mind and his

(49:24):
own right, he's above the law. So he shouldn't.
Oh yeah, metal, metal cuff shouldn't be dangled in front of
him. Yeah, I mean, he's a
congressional. How dare they arrest a
congressional? You notice that Enriquez is
gonna be God. All these politicians say it.
They all like how dare you? Arrest you.
I could if I'm a. Member of Congress fucking.

(49:46):
Greta Thornburg. But he he's lucky I wasn't the
one that was arresting him. Oh yeah, me too.
Socked them once or twice, but yeah, he's got the.
Taser and some pepper spray, yeah.
So I'll tell you I, I think, I think I've broken many records.
Number one, I'm a very competitive person.

(50:06):
Obviously, 22 years, longest trial in DC history, biggest
case in DOJ in the history of the DOJ.
And I definitely broke another record.
We're actually looking into thisthrough through FOIA.
I think I am the most moved inmate in the United States

(50:30):
ever. I was moved 40 different times
within three years to different like federal prisons, federal
holdovers and county jails. Can you do me a favor?
Can you explain to the audience?Because they don't know this and
I've never heard of a situation where somebody got transferred
40 times. Can you explain to them every

(50:50):
time you get transferred, just give them the Cliffs version,
Cliff Notes version of the transfers themselves what
happens? And I understand that process
and then explain to them how your legal isn't there with you
in most cases that your commissary, you've been trying
to get a pair of sneakers, you've been trying to get a pair
of sweats, whatever it is that your commissary gets boxed up
and it often just gets lost, gets stolen, it just disappears.

(51:14):
Can you explain to people because they don't understand
the personal consequence, they hear transfer and they think,
oh, they must take all their stuff and they take the guy and
they move him just like when youmove your own household.
And it is nothing fucking like. That so I'll tell you how how a
lot of it works and a lot of money is in the system this way.
So First off, you don't know when they're going to transfer

(51:35):
you. They don't tell you when.
Second, they don't tell you where you're going.
They just kind of knock on your door at 3:00 in the morning.
You got an hour to pack your your shit and then you're on a
bus to somewhere you have no idea.
Even the times they do it, explain to people they
intentionally do it. Oh yeah.
And they wake you up in the middle of the night and they
rack you out of there and it's just, and you're just.

(51:57):
And here's the point, guys, whenyou when you're in prison,
you're trying to get settled at these different locations.
You're trying to figure out and to get a balance in your life.
And then this is what they do toyou when they don't want you
have balance or if they're retaliated meeting because
you're filing paperwork or you're fighting your case that
you're actually trying to appeal, they will retaliate on
you, which they are not supposedto do.

(52:17):
It's against the law. And that's what the BOP.
And what happens if it's not so much the BOP?
It comes down from the DOJ, it comes down from the US Marshals,
it comes down from the federal agencies.
They will claim that you're doing something to tell the
warden, yeah, we need to transfer him out of there.
We're worried about what he's doing.
He's created this dialogue with somebody on the outside.
And the warden really has no choice.

(52:37):
He just goes along with whateverhe's told.
But go ahead from there, Enrique, I didn't mean to step
on. You, no, it's OK.
So another thing is since you don't know, you know, most of
the time you're, you're, you're hungry in here, right?
So like you get somewhere and you think that you're going to
be there for a long time. And then like you ask some of
the officers and they're like, yeah, I think you're going to be
here a while. Then you go ahead and you spend
like $200 on commissary and thenyou buy that in the morning.

(52:59):
And then that night they're like, they knock on the door.
They're like, hey, pack your shit.
You're leaving. Then you can't take that
commissary with you because you're not transferring from a
federal to a federal location. You're at a county jail and you
don't know if you're transferring.
So the county jails and the federal holdovers, you can't
take anything with you even from.
Even from county to state, you can't do it either.

(53:21):
Yeah, what about your legal? Did you find your legal
disappearing in between transfers?
In some cases, so the BLP has this new policy, You can't
travel with your legal documents.
You're supposed to give them to the the people on the bus,
right? And in some cases they don't.

(53:43):
And then other cases they'll supposedly mail it out to you.
I lost so much legal documents, specifically in the beginning
and. Let me add to that.
Did you find that even when you got your legal documents and
you'd pack them up, that it looked like somebody had gone
through them? Oh, always, always they they go
through it. Exactly my point.
And for the audience, do you understand how legal this is?
He's fighting a case. He's got legal documentations,

(54:05):
he's got evidence, he's got all sorts of things that he's been
going back and forth. He's making personal notes of
things that need to be brought up.
And do you understand that the Department of Justice is
probably going through his legal, having the prison go
through it. They're making copies, which is
a crime. And they're doing this not just
to Enrique Terrio. They're doing this to defendants
all over the fucking country. And it's nauseating because

(54:27):
people hear the word felony. They hear this conviction.
And you have no idea how many people are sitting in federal
prison that did not commit the crimes that the federal
government said. But they were.
They were bribery, extortion andcoercion, just like what they
did to him, what they did to Enrique Terrio when they said if
you go along with us, we're gonna wipe the case, you'll
never do another day in jail. That is called misfeasance, non

(54:51):
feasance and malfeasance by a government official.
That is threat, coercion and bribery by a government
official. Those are actual federal crimes.
The question for the audience, and you can go do this yourself,
your own homework. Why don't you go and spend some
time on social media, go spend some time on all the search
engines and find out the last time a Department of Justice
prosecutor was charged criminally for committing

(55:13):
malfeasance, nonfeasance, misfeasance by a government
official participating in obstruction of justice.
Because what they tried to get Enrique Terrier to do to flip on
Donald Trump when he's facing the sentence, he was, those were
multiple crimes. And not only should he win civil
settlement, and I'm saying this,we did not rehearse this.

(55:34):
This is not something that Enrique and I have ever
discussed. I'm saying not only should he be
civilly rewarded for what they did, all those people on the
case should face federal time. And I can tell you with the
number of crimes they committed,and there's many more than what
I just title 18241, title to 18242.
I can go on and on. They should face penitentiary

(55:56):
time and I'm talking about 10 years plus.
So take it from there, Enrique. So, so those transfers also you,
you have your custody level which dictates what kind of
prison you're going to go to. I had points to go to a camp, a
federal prison camp, and they boosted me twice, even against

(56:19):
their own policy to put me in a medium high facility.
And what we saw what you, I mean, what you see there, you
don't see anywhere else. I mean, it's, it's like movie,
like people think prisons like movies.
It's it's a lot more political. And you could you could get
stabbed in the stomach for a lotfor very, very little for, for

(56:44):
something that you wouldn't think that you'd get stabbed in
the stomach for like if you walkbehind somebody or certain
things like that. So there's certain rules to
follow. But another thing is custody
level is one thing and then security level's another.
They had me at the same securitylevel that they have El Chapo
Guzman in prison. So when they would move me, it

(57:07):
was very specific they they would have to lock me in the van
and they could not open that vanuntil I reach my destination.
I also had to be carried with a set of box cups.
For those that don't know who what box cups are after the show
Google it looks like a medieval torture device.
It's a black box that goes around your wrist and your hands

(57:27):
and then that's tied to your stomach by by by UN standards,
which are already low to begin with.
An inmate should only be put in these box cuffs for a maximum of
four hours. I was held in box cuffs for 26

(57:47):
hours straight and they didn't open the door to the car.
I had to urinate inside a Gatorade bottle with my hands.
I mean, I mean, picture that with my hands tied to my, my
wrist tied to my stomach. And you know, I that's almost
every transfer, not 26 hours, every transfer, but every

(58:09):
transfer was like that. I had to, I had to be whisked
around with armed personnel everywhere I went.
If I went to a county holdover, the marshals had a rule where if
I'm walking down the hallway, the hallway has to be the the
entire floor has to be clear of any other inmates.
So I had most of the time I had zero contact with anybody else.

(58:32):
I was in solitary confinement for the most part to the entire
three years. You said my final, my final
destination, which for the viewers, that's where you're
designated your final designation.
I didn't really end up in a final designation for the entire
three years. So the entire time I was there

(58:55):
for three years. And then when you're talking
about the injustices and, and the eavesdropping of things,
you, we're suing the federal government.
And one of those, a portion of that lawsuit is for
eavesdropping on attorney-clientprivilege phone calls.
That was done by Special Agent Nicole Miller.

(59:17):
And she deleted on the stand admitted that she deleted
evidence in our case, some of which could have been
exculpatory. She also made the mistake
because you when when you go to trial, we get to get all the her
messages with her Co workers, her colleagues.
And she before you send it, you put it in an Excel spreadsheet

(59:40):
and you're supposed to delete anything that's not relevant to
the case to to this specific case.
Well she made the mistake and I guess they didn't teach her how
to use Excel and instead of deleting it she hid those
documents, send us the excel sheet and our attorneys were
able to unhide those messages. In those messages she was
showing a lot of bias towards us.

(01:00:01):
She was hoping that our wives cheated on us while we were in
prison. She she also showed animus
towards us because we made more money than her and.
And let and let me point that out.
They want you to lose your families.
They want you to lose your wives, your loved ones, your
support from your family members, and what even he just

(01:00:22):
referred to about the eavesdropping.
I just got to say this. These are crimes that that
agent, FBI agent or otherwise should be arrested.
If you're destroying exculpatoryevidence, it becomes fruit of
the poisonous tree doctrine parts of it.
And that's my point. There's actual crimes on our

(01:00:43):
statutes right now, but between absolute immunity and qualified
immunity, they operate above thelaw.
They're committing Brady material violations, Giglio
material violations, what they present to the grand juries.
I can ask you this, Enrique, didthey ever give you the grand
jury testimony for your, and I know it was probably a sealed
grand jury hearing. Did you ever get a copy of the
grand jury testimony? Yes.

(01:01:05):
OK, which is it's unheard of that he even got that because
his case is a fight. For it, and the reason why we
had to fight for it, because theonly reason they attempted to
get a grand jury indictment a couple times.
They were finally successful when they unlocked my phone and
they found this document called the 1776 returns document, which

(01:01:28):
is a document that's not nefarious.
Like if you read it, it's just like how to stage a sit in,
right? And there's no way I should have
been exonerated just for that because there's no fucking way
that my guys would have gone with a plan to do a sit in.
You imagine like these big thesebig dudes doing a sit in in
Congress and waiting to get arrested, like they'd kick me

(01:01:48):
out of the Proud Boys if I even even suggested that.
But regardless of the fact the document was sent to me, but the
document was never read or opened, meaning like it was sent
through Telegram. And if you you're a Telegram
user, you know, Yeah, I know if two checks means read.
So this was a document among themillions of messages that I

(01:02:10):
received on Telegram that I never read.
And they know that because at our trial, the forensics team
for the FBI said we asked a question, did Mr. Atari ever see
this document? She said no.
Did did he ever share this document?
No, my point is right there, that should have stopped the

(01:02:30):
entire case, but that should have been enough.
And here's my point. Enrique Terrio, that question I
just asked him about the grand jury testimony, which you're
supposed to be able to face a jury of your peers and you're
supposed to be able to face youraccusers.
That's what our law says. But the Department of Justice
and the judiciary came up with this thing called a sealed grand
jury indictment. They get to go in there and they

(01:02:52):
could have said that Enrique Terrio was a pedophile, that he
was a racist, that he was part of the Ku Klux Klan.
They could have presented any line of bullshit they wanted.
And he literally had nobody there to argue otherwise.
Well, how can you say he's part of the KKK?
He's Cuban. They wouldn't have a Cuban and
the KKK. How do you say he's a pedophile?

(01:03:12):
Well, they went further than that, Lance.
You get no opportunity, but let me finish and then I want you to
jump in here. Nobody ever.
He's the first guy I've ever asked that question to that's
ever faced federal consequences.It's ever gotten a copy of his
grand jury testimony. They fight tooth and nail
because I'm going to tell you something.
Here's my accusation. My accusation is that most of
the time that grand jury testimony that's presented by

(01:03:35):
the Department of Justice is full of lies.
They're trying to convince an audience of the jury to, to, to
bring an indictment against Enrique.
And what are they going to present As much bullshit as they
possibly can to get the indictment.
They're never going to say the confidential informant was a,
was, was fighting another case and he was cooperating so they

(01:03:58):
back pocketed his charges. They're never going to do any of
that kind of stuff. They're going to only present
what they call the inculpatory evidence, the evidence that
would make him sound guilty. They never present the
exculpatory fact that he was a peaceful guy.
There was nothing else in his paperwork that ever said he was
calling for violence. He just doesn't like what's
going on politically, which he has a right to do the First
Amendment. Take it from there, Enrique.

(01:04:19):
This is a major flaw in our system and this bullshit needs
to stop. If they're going to call a grand
jury, you should have to be present for them to try to
indict you. Because I can tell you this, a
96 or 98% conviction rate by thefederal government, which I
really believe is probably 100%,but let's call it 96.
It's fucking impossible mathematically.
If they were playing fair honestly, and they weren't.
Go ahead, Enrique. So they went above and beyond

(01:04:42):
that. What you just said in the grand
jury indictment, they physicallysaid to the jury that I had this
on my phone. They didn't tell them what they
already knew, which was I never opened this document.
The grand jury indicted me because of this document,

(01:05:04):
because there was no, there was no other evidence leading to me
committing an act of seditious conspiracy.
Did I celebrate the things that I saw that day?
Absolutely. I think, I think a lot of people
did it. It felt like sweet justice.

(01:05:25):
I don't agree, you know, that I,I, I can't tell you that I agree
with like some of the things that I did see after the fact,
you know, the, but regardless ofthe fact we did see the sedition
charges came from Biden's mouth himself.
So a lot of people don't know this.
He, he, he called it sedition onthat day.

(01:05:45):
And that's why the DOJ move forward.
Anna Paulina Luna referred Merrick Garland for criminal
charges to the DOJ, while Merrick Garland was the acting
or the the attorney general at the time.
Obviously they denied them his charge.

(01:06:08):
There was contempt of Congress, which as we know, Peter Navarro
and Steve Bannon served three months for contempt of Congress.
You want an easy target, go backto that referral.
I, I asked Pam Bondi to go back to that referral and at the very
least Merrick Garland should do the three months that Peter

(01:06:28):
Navarro and and Steve Bennett did.
At the very least. We didn't vote for cheaper eggs.
We voted for retribution. We didn't, we didn't, we, we
wanted to, for this to stop. And the only way it's going to
stop is for us to put the perpetrators in prison.
They did it to us. We have to do it to them and we

(01:06:51):
have to do it correctly. I get that.
But that they need to go to prison.
And I'd give up every single dollar of this lawsuit if it
meant putting every single one of them in prison for what they
did to us, for what they did to the president, for what they did
to the American people for for four years.

(01:07:13):
I agree. Do you think, and I think this
is an important question, do youthink America?
Because I, I have an opinion andI know and I believe that George
has an opinion. In fact, George, I want both of
you guys to answer this. Do you think America is still a
nation of laws or has the justice system become a

(01:07:36):
political weapon? George, why don't you go first?
I'll go first. We are a nation of laws, but
those laws apply to A2 tier justice system, meaning if
you're a regular Joe or a woman,whatever you want to call it,
like three of us, the laws apply.
And if you're on a different viewpoint from what they view,

(01:07:57):
they even apply harder. If you're in political positions
most of the time, if you got bigmoney, most of the time, I'm
going to say laws don't apply. But definitely when it comes to
our government institutions, thepeople that are that are running
the government from the House, the Congress, everybody seems

(01:08:17):
like laws don't really apply to them so much.
Once in a while something will get thrown at them.
Like, you know, they'll, they'llput somebody away just to, you
know, look, it's working. Like you look at Senator Mendez
from New Jersey, my state, he definitely did what he did and
he's locked up. He's trying to peel it.
He's crying wolf, whatever. But you know, they do that once
in a while. Let's see what happens when we

(01:08:38):
had the judge from Wisconsin whogot who got charged.
You have the congresswoman from New Jersey who also just got
charged. Let's see how they play out.
Or they're going to get a slap on her wrist, right?
We'll see what happens. But no, it's it's screwed up and
that's the problem. That's why I keep saying this.
And maybe it's not a good word to say on the show, but the only

(01:08:58):
way things are going to get fixed if we 1776 this country
again. That's the only way.
I think it's when you have the Trump, right?
He won. Then he put in people that we
trust that always said the good things that you know, you want
to hear. And I'm going to say it, and
there's still a lot of time for them to fix these things.
But Cash, Patel, Bongino, all the other ones, let's see what

(01:09:21):
happens. We still got time.
But if they don't do nothing, it'll never get done ever in
this country. Never until we start over.
Now is the time for all this to get done.
And if they don't, if they don'tfix our judicial system, it's
screwed. If they don't fix the voting
system, we're screwed. Do you think they're going to
allow this to happen again like another person like Trump to win

(01:09:43):
or people like Cash Patel, Dan Bongino be put into positions?
Fuck no, no way. Ain't happening.
So we got to get it done now. That's the only way.
And number one thing is the voting.
They can fix our voting systems.Maybe we can vote people in that
we really want and then maybe things can get changed.
But until I until we start seeing it, I don't know.
I don't have high hopes. I might be moving to Mayor

(01:10:05):
Arcus. Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, my orca, my orca, my orca.But you were you were wound up.
But I understand it. National laws or political
weapon, Enrique. I, I don't think that justice
exists in this country and I don't think justice I'm, I'm
sorry to black hell some of yourviewers here.
I don't think justices existed in the United States for a very

(01:10:26):
long time. What what I saw at trial, they
didn't learn to do that right there and then with January
Sixers or our trial, it was methodical, it was conniving.
And this is something that has been passed down through the
Department of Justice. The United States has a history

(01:10:47):
of getting political activists and, and turning them into
extremists and putting them in prison.
We've seen this for a very long time.
And I think that now with the election, Donald Trump, are we
going to get better yet? Are we getting better?
Yes. I, I, I think we are.
Do I think it's going to maintain?
I don't know. Are we getting better?

(01:11:09):
No. Enrique, how do you think we're
getting better? Let me, I'd like to know.
Well, maybe I, I'll tell you, I,I guess, I guess in that
portion, we're not putting away fucking people for their
political views. So I guess that's a step in the
right direction, even though it's like a like a 2% step in
the right direction. I honestly, again, I'm, I'm
being careful and I want to tellyou why I'm being careful with

(01:11:31):
my words. It's because, you know, I've
never been afraid to speak out, but I have a lot of people that
are depending on me right now and depending on these, these
lawsuits to put their lives together.
So I am being careful with some of my criticisms right now
because it is important. I, I do encourage people to, to
speak out when they see something when it comes to the

(01:11:55):
Justice Department. But I, I'm sorry, I, I, I just,
I, I haven't had that feeling for a very long time.
And I don't think it's, I don't think I'm going to get it back.
You know, the West unless something, unless there's a
major course correction, we're watching the death of the West.
I. Mean if you look at hold on a
minute, if you look at, I mean, 2, two major things like when

(01:12:18):
Elon Musk was there with Doge and they're trying to cut money
and they're fighting him. And you know, the first day he
looked up to him and his cars. Now they're fighting him because
why? Because he's trying to cut
government wasteful spending. And then you look at every,
everything that Trump does, every executive order, every
damn thing is getting challengedin court and, and he's losing
the first challenge and he's liberal courts and then it has

(01:12:39):
to go to the appellate courts and he's, and he's winning.
I think most of them, if not allof them, but look at the time,
the effort, the money that's being wasted.
They should the AG Trump and andthe Republican Congress could,
should do something right now tostop these stupid judges from
doing this crap. And they shouldn't even it's.

(01:12:59):
Racketeering. George.
It's racketeering. We have an article one problem
in the United States and we. Have a constitution problem?
I, I think, I think Trump is doing an amazing job and he's,
he's using these executive orders to, to, to make America
great again. But Congress isn't codifying
these executive orders and to think, and, and they've been the

(01:13:22):
most useless Congress in, I think it was like the past like
50-60 years. So to think that we, I, I don't
know how we win the midterms, but I'm going to, I'm going to
predict the future here. I think we lose the midterms.
I think we lose. We'll, we'll be down for about 5
seats. I think that they will impeach
within the 1st 30 days. I don't think it'll, it'll go

(01:13:44):
through the Senate. And then I think that they're
going to start ramping up pressure.
And I think that maybe they figured out how to steal the,
the next election. And then if that happens, the
next Democrat that comes in evenone day undoes everything that
probably. Executive orders right?
Executive order is only as good as till the next person that

(01:14:06):
wants to wipe them. Out 100%.
The separation of the separationbetween the articles of our
Constitution, I mean, between the three branches of
government, you know, they're, they, they are equal branches.
And we have one that's not working at all.
We have one that's working against the American people,

(01:14:26):
which is the Supreme Court. I, I, I yelled at the sky and I,
I got crapped on for it when I was against his nomination of
Amy for the Supreme Court. And, and look where we are now.
She she's from the first term tothe second term, she's increased

(01:14:47):
30%. She's sided with the Democrats
30% more than she has in the first term.
So, like, the president's doing an amazing job.
Congress is not codifying anything.
The federal courts are are staging A coup against the
government. I hope, I hope Republicans take

(01:15:09):
note and I hope other conservative constitutionalist
judges take note the next time that we have a liberal and then
we have a Supreme Court that just doesn't care.
You know, we have two great Supreme Court justices out of
nine. Yeah, And it's, you know, and I
want to leave the audience with at least some kind of hope.

(01:15:30):
You know, the men and women in this country, I think they're
angry. I think they're disillusioned.
I think they feel censored. They feel attacked.
They feel disrespected. If you could save one unfiltered
message to the American people today, if you could share with
them one motivational comment, what would it be?

(01:15:52):
I would tell them to get angry. I I, I, I wouldn't want to give
them any hope. I want them to be angry because
that's the only way that you're going to you're, you're going to
get out of this mess. We've we've, we're going to lose
this country if, if we don't getoff our ass.
It's like President Trump is doing an amazing job, but it
takes, it takes a village, it takes you guys that are

(01:16:15):
listening in, it takes Lance, ittakes George, it takes all of us
to make America great again. He can't do it by himself.
So when when midterms comes, knock on doors for candidates
that have the the president's agenda, pass out Flyers, work
the polls that day. And if you can't find the right

(01:16:37):
person to to support in these local elections or the elections
for Congress, run yourself. It's so easy.
People think that it's like super difficult.
Like if you're dedicated, you could gain a seat, whether it's
in your local REC, whether it's in your City Council, whether
it's your school board. You want to make a difference.

(01:16:59):
You need to get off your ass. So I don't want to offer hope.
I want you to get angry and I want you.
I, I, I, I want that to be a motivator for you.
I think that's powerful message.Did he freeze there, Jordan?
Oh no, I thought. You.
I'm here. I'm here.
Don't forget we lost you. I think that's a powerful
message and I think it's right over the target.

(01:17:20):
All right, listen, you guys, I think we had a great interview
here. Enrique, first of all, I want to
thank you very much for taking the time.
I know you, you're fighting still you, you've got lots going
on that that's of course why he wasn't able to be here on
Wednesday because they continue to go after and they continue to
attack him. And don't think Enrique Terrio
is an exception. Don't think that when George and

(01:17:41):
Lance are attacked that we're anexception.
We're just a target at that time.
They choose and pick where they think they need to go after
people. And it could be you next.
Don't underestimate. I know a lot of people are
confident of this administrationfixing everything.
If you guys don't participate, if you don't start screaming
from the top of the Raptors. Anna Paulina Luna today said

(01:18:02):
that she wants George Soros and Alexander Soros investigated.
And I agree with that wholeheartedly.
I think they're they're enemies of the American people.
Call her office. Tell her you support her.
Call your congressional members.Tell them that you want George
Soros treated as an international terrorist because
that. Is in fact what?
He is, he is undermining and destroying our country from
within Lance. Hold on, hold on.

(01:18:24):
So I just want everybody to knowI have Enrique Terrio's website
up. It's 1776 dot shop.
You can help support him and his'cause there, right?
Is that right? Yeah, that is right.
It's also it's a community basedwebsite, so it's kind of like an
Amazon of conservative merchandise.
So it's not just me that sells on there.
There's a whole bunch of different vendors and know that

(01:18:45):
we verify that they are conservative before we let them
sell on our shop. We're going to be expanding this
week. I don't ask for donations, but
if you enjoy one of our shirts, I'd encourage you guys to go
purchase. They're high quality and they're
here, made right here in our studio.

(01:19:05):
Cool. Yeah, That's, that's great.
And then Enrique, just really quickly give me your social
media and give me your show before I say what I wanted to
say. OK, sorry.
So you can follow me on X right now.
It's at Noble NOB LE1 spelled out ONE and then we have a
podcast network that runs about 5 shows a day.

(01:19:27):
And it's actually right behind me right here.
It is at War Boy studios. I'm about to start the morning
show in the next like 30-40 minutes and that's, that's where
you guys can find me. So I Lance, I appreciate you
guys for having me on today. Now, and, and we're thankful and

(01:19:47):
I just want to tell people, don't sit on the sidelines.
You can e-mail these people. You can call them the members of
Congress. Maybe you should warn them and
tell them that they don't get off their ass and do what needs
to be done, that you're going tovote them out, that you're going
to insist in getting them out ofCongress.
These messages are compelling and you need to do it over and
over and over again. If you did it daily, if you did

(01:20:09):
it every other day, it may have an impact.
And the point of the matter is when we, when we unite and we
don't stay divided, that's the power, right?
There's 300 + 1,000,000 Americans, and there's only 500
and some odd. Members of the executive branch
and of course then you can go into the judiciary.
There aren't that many of them at the end of the day.
Well, you can make a difference and you have to.
Now listen, don't forget we've got the Crypto Power Hour 3:00

(01:20:31):
PM on Friday. We've got the Global Finance
Forum 1:00 PM. And don't forget on Friday,
we've got an amazing interview. Basil Baz for you guys that know
him from the blacklist. He's also a, a, a real pipe
hitter from the CIA. You're going to want to hear
this interview, man. We're going to be going in deep.
We've got some great stuff to talk about.
And if you're a blacklist fan, you know, he was on there for

(01:20:53):
Four Seasons and he brought a lot of truth into the blacklist
about the CIA and what kind of operations they were up to.
Interesting character. You're going to love him.
So be here 11 AM tomorrow. I definitely want to check that
show out. All right, Enrique, my brother,
stick around for just one minute.
George, what are your last wordson the way out of the gate for

(01:21:13):
the audience buddy? Enrique, thank you so much for
the interview. It was great having you.
We, I hope we've always been fighting for the J Sixers from
that time that shit happened. Me and Lance were almost there.
Last minute decision that we didn't.
Go. I was jealous of the guy that
put his feet up on Pelosi's desk.
So anyway, everybody have a great day.
Stay blessed. Most importantly, stay frosty.

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