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Episode Transcript

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The. Oh, all right, Welcome back to

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the Big Make Show Global FinanceForum here with your host.
And by the way, that's the number One Financial and Rumble.
That's right, number One Financial and Rumble powered by
Genesis Gold Group with your host sitting right with me.
Next to me is Jonathan Rose and George Bounty Lance.
Yeah, he's getting surgery. He's out.
We're giving a little time off. It's just going to be the two of

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us cutting it up. So we are your go to source for
cutting edge insights into the world of finance.
We talk about everything in between, even crypto.
Genesis Gold Group believes in empowering faith driven
stewardship where gold and silver are an integral part of
the balanced portfolio. Protecting your finances and
precious metals has never been more crucial.

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So join us as we explore the forces shaping global markets,
the power of precious metals, digital assets, and dynamics
that influence economics across the globe.
Jonathan Rose, how are you doing?
It's been a while. People have been missing.
You, it's been a while. I mean, I'm travelling today and
I'm in our Vegas office, but I'mjust honored and thank you for

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letting me come on today. I know we're missing Lance and
wishing the speedy work. We're not.
We miss Lance. We miss Lance.
You maybe you haven't seen you in a while.
I don't I. Haven't I haven't.
So you know what, I, I wanted tokind of pull the slack for him
and, and, and do what I could doto help.
And yeah, I'm happy to be here with we've got so much to talk

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about. George, I have been out of the
fold with you guys for for a minute.
I've got so much to share with you.
What I've what I've been doing. As you know, I'm in the precious
metals market now the crypto, crypto seems to have kind of
consumed us a little bit, but I'm happy, happy to be here and
talk about Global Finance forum.You guys are absolutely killing
it with your show. So congratulations.

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That's always wonderful to see. Those numbers are just.
Good numbers. Yeah, absolutely crazy.
Well, you know, you 2 are the the dynamic duo.
So hopefully I can, you know, remotely bring something today
that that is always missing withthe magic of both of you
together. But I'm happy to talk about

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anything and everything with youguys, as always.
Your Everybody's been missing you.
First of all, they love that that that chic British accent.
Who? Who doesn't, you know, and plus
you're the CEO of Genesis Gold Group and Block Just IRA.
They want to hear from you, not so much the other guys, but you.
And listen, I just tell everybody, I tried to get
Maximus on from Block Just IRA. He's so busy, but we're going

(03:34):
to. Have.
To a schedule. He will, I'm going to, I'm going
to bring him on. He's travelling this week is out
of office. I, we have a show that we do
together called the crypto classroom and I barely got him
to do that with, with me today, but it'll be easier.
I think you know, the next couple weeks, you know, we'll
schedule it and we'll definitelyget him on because I tell you

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what so many hedge funds are using his crypto trading signals
right now. Since we last spoke, we've been
in coin desk CNBCUSA today. I mean, I'll bring you guys all
up to speed on what's happening in the trip.
So I mean, alternative assets isjust a super exciting industry
to be in. Gold's obviously not going

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anywhere and we know the value of of gold and and what it
provides crypto people, They're hearing people talking about it
every day, but people are still confused.
They want to learn, learn, learnand hopefully we can bring some
insights for you guys today as well and happy to discuss.
That's great. That's why we, you know, we do
the crypto power. We do a lot of education on that
teaching people, because there'sa lot of people that don't know

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and they fear what they don't know.
But you know, once you once you learn, you're going to want to
be involved because it's a wave of the future.
But we got to give a shout out to our sponsor.
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You got a picture of Jonathan too, with it saving your photo
files. You go to it later, but you know
Jonathan. I just want to let you know
because I don't know if you watched the past maybe 4
episodes per our last conversation.
I told everybody, he said Jonathan today he's going to
give me a gold pepper bar. He said I earned it.
Yeah, I know. You're still ribbing me for the

(06:04):
Gold Pepper bar. Well, you know what?
Since the show started, I mean, just to give you some context of
how valuable gold is, those barshave gone up from about 5500 to
now like 7370, four, $100 a bar.And that's not of not us putting
up the prices, that's just the prices of gold, right?

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So it just goes to show you how over a period of time, and in
fact, one of those kilo bars I used to hold up again, that's in
my other office where we startedwith you guys, they were about
6065 thousand. They're like $107,000 today.
So the price of gold and silver's going to be right
behind it. And, you know, we could talk all

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the types of wonderful reasons, reasons why, you know, metals
is, is going up. And it's like I mentioned, it's,
it's an exciting time for alternative assets because
people are concerned with what'shappening with the US dollar,
runaway freight train of debt. I know that's a, a constant,
constant topic. And I don't think it's going to

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slow down. And that's why they're even
mentioning, you know, crypto is the future of money because it's
honest. Money is a fixed supplier.
There's no political baggage tied to it.
Look what President Trump is doing right now.
He is making us, you know, the crypto capital of the world.
So, you know, I think they're just two great assets to hold on
to. And I think it's an exciting

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time to be an investor, especially if you are looking at
assets like, you know, Bitcoin and Ethereum and and others.
Yeah, I mean, listen, you can never, I, we always say this on
the show, you can never go wrongwith gold and silver.
It means since the discovery of it, it's always held its value
and it's always gone up. We would say like in January
2024, gold was like I think it was 2000 an ounce I believe was

(07:51):
around there. And now it's at like what 33?
It's trading 34 somewhere aroundthere.
So it's, I mean, it's just goingto go up because there's only so
much of it, right? Yeah, silver's you talking about
silver? Because silver's in the news
right now. Every single day, everyone's
talking about silver, silver, silver.
Obviously, you know silver's a little bit of of the rubbing
through its Batman, right? But if you look at the

(08:12):
industrial demand for silver, the last mine I think that was
found for silver was I think it was back in 2016.
So there's no new silver mines coming out with the frontier of
electronics and the explosions of new technology, lots of
silver components. So the demand super strong
supplies very limited or beginning to get a bit more

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restricted. So I would expect to see, you
know, forty, $45.00 an ounce forsilver incoming when because I
know that's Lance would always RIP me.
When are we going to, I see thatand I, I hate putting my neck on
the line because silver's a tricky 1 should predict.
I think it is a bit of a manipulated market, but it will
happen. But I think end of this year or

(08:55):
next year, we will definitely see $45 announced.
The silver, I think it's a bit more inclusive market in the
sense that if you're a retail investor, people feel a little
bit more comfortable starting off with silver because it's
less expensive, right? Compared to gold, that's over
$3000 an ounce in, in climbing. So they're, they're 2, they're 2
great, great metals to, to hold on to whether you put it into an

(09:18):
IRA4O1K physically hold on to itlike like George just did with
the prepper bar. You know, we're, we're in Vegas
right now, George. And this is where they're
minted, minted that the SunshineMints, one of the best mints in
the world outside of obviously the United States Mint.
But the Sunshine Mints, one of the biggest one they produce

(09:38):
these. We have a pattern on the prepper
bar, so there is no other pepperbar out there.
And the, and the fact you could snap them into three different
sizes and have utility and use them and they come in gold and
silver, They can go in an IRA or4O1K made in America.
It's a it's a great, great product because the nearest

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thing to it is a Swiss product called the Val candy bar.
And the premiums on them are massive because you got to ship
them in from Switzerland and theutility version of them isn't as
good as, as the pepper bar. They're just one size.
The prepper bar fits in your wallet 3 sizes.
Listen, you just forget about Swiss.
We we want made in the USA. That's what we're here made in

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the USA. We have to support this country
and the people that work here. So I have I have something to
look forward to when I come to Vegas.
I can just you can go to that the minting place.
I can just have a pic of, you know, choice.
A few things I said put it on Jonathan's bill.
You know what, I tried to film in there and they wouldn't even
let me film in there because security is that that tight, you
know? So that's good.

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It it is good. But I really wanted the film in
there to show them how they're manufactured for audiences and
show how they're made. But and it is fascinating how
how they. They wouldn't even they wouldn't
even show like like if they did it themselves.
The like the manufacturing part.Nope, Nope.
Nothing. I mean even talking to like, you
know, the the Mint directors there, they're just just
security insurance. They're just they.

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I mean, I don't. Blame them too hard.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I tried.
Yeah, but listen, I I would feelbetter that they said no,
knowing that your stuff is beingmade there and everything.
So that's always a good thing. By the way, everybody, he's at
Jonathan's at work right now andyou wouldn't believe it over.
I'm going to say to you, right on your shoulder is your whole
work floor, people over there working.

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Well, I'm on my iPad today. Normally when I spoke to you,
I'm in the studio, so I'm going to lift up the iPad.
But yeah, just to show you I'm in, I'm in a conference.
I'm not sure if you can see this.
I'm going to turn my iPad around, but you can see everyone
here at at Genesis. You see that, George?
Yeah, we could see that. Yeah.
Wow. Yeah.
So, yeah, people are taking calls as we speak and, and
speaking to people about Iras and and 401 KS.

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And we have another office as you know, in Beverly Hills.
And yeah, there's, there's, you know, we're here to help people,
educate people. Where's Jacob at?
Is he there or is he in Beverly Hills?
He, no, he's, he's here. He's he's, he's in with us.
He's probably in an office next.Door.
Oh, my God, He's here. He didn't.
Come on. Oh, forget it.
No. No, he he ran a mile.

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When I said we have to do a shower and record, he ran.
A mile. Yeah, yeah.
Half a mile maybe. So.
No, he's he's he's he's busy. He would love to come back on
the show. We will get him on the show.
So we definitely have have to have Jacob back on catch us up
what he's been doing in the industry.
We need to have Max on to talk about crypto.

(12:31):
We. Need Max for an hour though.
We got to have Max for an hour because I would really like to
get Max to break down everythingabout Block Trust IRA.
Could be tricky now we'll try, but I agree he's he's worth he's
worth having on 100% very smart young, capable individual.
I had another show host. I won't mention their name.
I'm not sure if it's a conflict of interest because he invested

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also in block trust IRA and the AI tech and he's a doctor PhD in
economics and and he normally researches researchers and
researchers. Well, I won't because, you know,
so he's investing and I don't want to talk about someone's
investments, but it was interesting because, you know,
have been a researcher, he realizes that AI just can't

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compete with one individual doing research anymore.
You know, it takes millions and millions of of brains to kind of
compute what AI is, is doing with AI and crypto, where we've
married the, the industries together and we can kind of talk
about that. And that's what, you know, Max
will break down for us. But it's a very exciting time to
be involved in in crypto as well.

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I mean, you cannot compete with AI and once the quantum
computing and and you know better ships come out, it's
going to be unbelievable becauseAI is just no matter what if
like in the financial world world and you see what block
just IRA, it's it's golden. It's like you can't get better
than that. Imagine what they do that for
medical in the medical field for, you know, cures and

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everything, diagnostics, they'redoing it now reading X-rays and
CAT scans and Mris. But just between that in the
legal world, in the court system, it's just it's mind
boggling, but. You.
Know, let's get down to the nitty gritty here because it
seems like this whole week, everything is revolving around
the Fed chair Powell, everything.

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He's a, you know, Trump made some comments the other day and
he says he wants to get rid of Powell and he's got a few people
in mind for replacements. Now this is creating a nice
storm. So just so you know, like
Bitcoin, bitcoins, pairs, geological tensions, losses,
they're retesting 108,000 resistance.

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You have that in the Bitcoin. You have investors are turning
their attention to the difference between Trump and
Palin as well as their concerns about the Fed's independence.
Then you have Ethereum, XRP, their extended recovery amid a
steady derivatives market with open interest regaining
momentum. So he took this was I believe
Wednesday. He told the reporters he's got 3

(15:03):
or 4 candidates. So I'd like to know who they
are. I think it's possible.
Maybe Besson is one of them. I think Besson wants to stay
where he's at though. But you know, it's funny how
just the thought of it, how the markets are taking effect and
it's actually it's going to be like in a positive way because
Powell is holding everything back.

(15:24):
You imagine if they if they lower the interest rates what's
what it'll do to the economy. It's going to just stimulate
such growth. Well, the market normally
factors in for moves. So the market's a little bit
bullish right now on the sentiment that they announced
that come July we could be looking at an interest rate cut.
Now if you're looking what that does for market like

(15:46):
cryptocurrency, it's very, very positive.
So I think you know the, the crypto maniacs out, they
included myself. We're expecting this, the these
cuts in the upcoming months, in the next year or so.
When you look at through Powell stepping down, George and who
the replacement is going to be, you know, there's a little punch

(16:08):
list he's got of, of his hit list.
But look at Trump, what he does like he's he's the chess balls
being laid. He knows the moves, 2-3 moves
ahead. He's going to put someone in
there that's going to favour hiscrypto empire, which he's
building for himself and his family.
So whoever it is that's going tobe going in as a replacement,

(16:29):
it's going to be extremely favourable for the crypto
community even more because we keep seeing these changes happen
for adoption. Bitcoin added to the US
Treasury, the Genius Act just passed.
I'm not sure if you were last covered that of.
Course of. Course, who am I?
Talking to even had like 13 Democrats got on board.

(16:50):
Yeah, as a matter. Of fact, one of them being Adam
Schiff, who's now trying to put some, I forget the name of the
bill to stop Trump and his family and Musk from buying or
trading any crypto while they'rein office.
That's not going. To get these guys these, these
guys are crazy. This is the same fake news, fake
media legacy news that like would would not report on Biden

(17:14):
selling favors to Ukraine. But when Trump does everything
with open transparency, right? They never give him any credit.
And he's not hiding anything. He's he's actually blazing a
path for you to get rich. If you are following what Trump
is doing and you understand and you can like kind of cut through
all the BS news like the future of money is in crypto and you
really want to kind of get on this crypto revolution because

(17:36):
we're seeing this biggest transfer and wealth happen.
You know, the genius act, which I just mentioned to you, it's
not just about tokenomics, right?
It's it's about infrastructure. And right now we're seeing these
pillars erected within the foundation blade and you know,
past wrongs are being corrected in the cryptocurrency market and
it's getting more validity and it's becoming more stable every

(17:57):
day. Now, normally when we just had
the Iran, Israel news, right? And it's fixed now, 12 day war's
over. Thank God, you know, thank God,
maybe that's not going to be thecase next week.
Who who knows? The Middle East is a is a powder
cake. We we all know that.
But point being, look how the markets reacted.
They reacted so favourably. Like you've got legacy media

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saying 143 apocalypse now, sell,sell, sell.
But what was interesting this time, people didn't bite on that
news, right? People didn't sell, they didn't
run to the hills with like with fear.
They they stay robust and the markets actually did better.
So it just goes to show you the institutional money out there

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didn't on fake news and it's stayed put and it's been very
resilient. And you know, it's too early to
make a case for something like Bitcoin being a safe haven,
right? Because there's not enough data.
But you know, some people are kind of comparing it, saying if
this was a few years ago, it would have plummeted off a
Cliff. But now it stayed very robust.
People are now looking at as as a serious money, serious form of

(19:03):
money in exchange. Banks are adopting it.
They're changing their money rail systems to these, you know,
stable coins. And like I said, the bread bread
crumbs are being laid every day and and the crumbs make a loaf,
George. So what?
People need to understand that this isn't a phase, a short term
trend. Crypto is here to stay.

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And if you're learning about crypto and you want an
education, I'm going to give myself a shameless plug here.
But yeah, you know, Block Trust IRA is where I recommend people
get an education from because atBlock Trust IRA, we help people
understand crypto. We help them purchase it through
Iras, through four O 1 KS. We have the award-winning AI

(19:49):
technology through Macs, which we will bring on to the show,
which won the number one tradingstrategy globally out of 1500
different funds. And I think what people don't
realize that with our AI tech, it beats out 1500 fund managers.
But these funds, George, I've looked them up.
These funds are. Elite funds with billions of

(20:09):
dollars under management, like the tech we have has only been
reserved for, like the black rocks, the institutions, the
hedge funds. And we've brought this
technology down to the retail market to people like you and I.
So people who do invest in crypto can manage risk because
crypto is inherently volatile and volatility has scared people

(20:31):
away in the past. But we love the word volatility
now. We always.
Say. We always.
We always talk about that with, especially with the Bitcoin,
with the volatility, I was goingup and down.
We say that that Maximus is is driving off of that because you
guys love that because that's how the money's made.
Yeah, it really is. So definitely, definitely a
great time. I think interest rates being cut

(20:52):
is inevitable. It's going to happen.
Trump's tariffs policies, inflation, GDP growth is
actually being good right now. But I think at some point in
time, whether a market cracks overseas, Japan's got a very
rough go of it right now with the bond market.
I'm not sure if you guys have been covering that, but I think

(21:12):
eventually there there's these cuts are going to come.
I think the market's been accident already.
You know, we talk about the markets reacting.
I think they're kind of factoring a lot of these cuts as
we stand right now. And then once these cuts going
through effect and people see the money flow going to other
assets, they're looking at gold,they're looking at crypto and

(21:34):
they're looking at alternative assets, I think are going to be
the spotlight for the years 252627 and and now is the time
to get educated on those. I think a lot of people too,
like you're saying the cuts with, you know, this big
beautiful bill. I mean, they're going back and
forth, back and forth with this in the Senate.
But I know Trump wants his pass by July 4th.

(21:56):
I don't know if it's going to happen.
We'll see. But if, if when it does get
passed, I think it's going to, you know, put a lot of
confidence back in the market too with people and especially
with their retirements because. Yes, it is, but it's also going
to bring on a lot more debt as well.
So I think there's going to be the like, how do we how do we

(22:16):
cut down this debt? And if we don't, that's why you
want to look at alternative assets, right?
Because even though we're pumping money into the account,
but don't forget, let's talk about gosh, I wish I would have
spoken to you guys covering thisbecause I know you guys probably
did, which I feel like again, Trump didn't get praised for was
the middle Easter cold when he came back and raised, you know,

(22:37):
trillions of dollars right of. Course, we covered it.
I called him. I called him the king of the
Middle East. He's the king of the Middle
East. I'm, I'm laughing because I'm
like, I know you're traveling, but like, can we just, can we
just revel in this information that we've missed talking about
together? Because I, I feel like, wow, I
mean, that was another like, thank you, Mr. Trump for what he

(22:59):
did. Again, legacy media were more
interested in him accepting a 747 jumbo jet from, from Qatar,
wherever it was versus the actual triumphs he's done by
bringing this money to the economy, which is going to fuel
the economy like billions and billions of dollars.
I mean, he's really bringing AI and tech to the forefront and

(23:22):
you know, the whole, you know, make America great again.
He, he, I really believe he's, he's doing that George.
I mean, obviously nothing's perfect, but the moves he's
making are are I think are just incredible.
Not nothing will ever be perfect, but just when he went
over there and you know, the welcome parties that they put
out from each country, from Qatar, from Saudi Arabia, UAE is

(23:44):
mean. You never see that with anybody.
Yeah. And then the level of respect.
And then the investments that they're bringing, like the, I
know the UAA wanted so bad to make a deal with Trump, with
the, you know, sending, you know, investing in this country
and also to buy chips for their,for their crypto exchanges and
stuff, what they want to do there.
So I mean, it's big. I mean all that money.

(24:07):
Countries, I say. Other countries treat him better
than than people in this country, which is insane.
Like you saw how they rolled outthe red carpet for him.
But over here, look what the news media do to him.
They just don't give him enough credit for for what he's doing.
And I have a problem with that Ithink.
I think a lot of people do, but you know, I don't know how the

(24:29):
media is over there, how freely it is, but they they, I know
they don't believe in that like,you know, lying and manipulating
over there in those countries with the media.
So those a lot of those time, those people are going to get
the real news like the raw news that.
That chop your hands off over there, that's why.
Listen, Saudi Arabia here, I don't know if a lot of people
know this. There's there's people that sell
jewelry, they're on the streets,there's gold and stuff.

(24:51):
And when it's time, they go prayor whatever it is.
They're they leave the gold there, There's nobody watching
it and whatever all their stuff,nobody steals it.
Because if you get caught stealing, they chop your hand
off. You get caught stealing again,
they chop your other hand off. I mean, you ain't going to
steal. Imagine that first.
Time you can chop your hand off,no.
Thanks. Oh my God, that would curb a lot

(25:12):
of crime. But it's but you know, it is
what it is over there. But, you know, even between like
Israel and Iran, I mean. After Trump.
Just made that deal because you brought it over there with those
countries. They don't they, they're all,
they don't want to try to keep peace, keep their economies
flowing and keep building. And they don't want to know.

(25:33):
Nobody wants conflict. But Trump the whole time was
trying to stop them from bombingeach other, trying to make a
peace deal. So that and people know he's
going to get it done eventually he'll get it done.
And he doesn't want no new wars.And look, they got a piece,
right? They got not, I'm going to say a
fully peace deal, but they got aceasefire right now.

(25:56):
So I don't think. They got a ceasefire.
A lot of the previous party wereskews a better turn pussyfooting
around right and and not doing anything and and and they only
respect faults and and he gave them hot slap and and they
listened right, and that's what had to be done.
Now, hopefully the piece of codeholds and you know, Marcus

(26:20):
continue to do what they're doing.
But like I said earlier, it's a bit of a powder keg in the
Middle East. It's always been that way, but
we shall see how this unfolds and and hopefully everything
stays copacetic. It looks like it's so far.
Yeah, I mean, I think Iran took a took a beating this time where
they lost a lot of equipment. You know, they're trying to say

(26:42):
they're put out stuff on X that,you know, look what we did to
the Israel. What'd you do?
I mean, their Iron Dome wasn't so iron.
But you know, listen, both people play parts in it.
Both have some blame, blame to put out.
But enough's enough. We just got to get now Russia
and Ukraine done with because he's just he's just asking

(27:03):
everybody for more money. That's all he wants every
country he's asking for more money, more money so he could
steal it take our tax dollars and put it back in this country
and keep building. But you know, even like you talk
about the big beautiful bill about the debt, yeah, in the
beginning, most likely, yeah, hopefully they're they're
putting in a doge cuts and they continue that to root out the

(27:24):
fraud, waste and abuse and you know, maybe get a balanced
budget hope they should be able to.
But if if it those the cuts actually sparked the economy and
then with the tariffs the way it's going to grow, you won't
have maybe money on the deficit or actually won't be on our debt

(27:49):
actually. That's what that's.
What a lot of forecasts are saying, but.
We can we can agree to disagree on that because I think the the,
the debt trend baby, that's not slowing down and we love to
spend and and print money and and again, you know, not Trump's
fault. We've inherited a lot of debt
from each administration and this debt isn't shrinking even

(28:11):
with the tariff monies coming in.
I mean, we're still spending $1 trillion every 90 days just on
the interest alone, George, that's more than AUS National
Defence budget. So this debt is going in my
opinion is going to, I may be wrong, right, Hopefully I am
wrong, right. But I just think it's going to
end horrifically for the US dollar and the economy at some

(28:32):
point. I mean, yeah, it's not going to
how much longer can it sustain with that type of debt they keep
added. But even if they, you know, if
this sparks economy and is taking a little off the debt,
it's going to take a lot more than that to remove that debt.
You know, I listen, what they need to do is like, and I always
say this like our our now cryptoreserves, I was saying put it

(28:55):
put into block trust and let letthem let it build with them
because they're just sitting there, right?
Well, who knows what they're doing?
And it's not just sitting. In reserve, I tell you something
right now with block trust, who we've been speaking to and in
fact, I joke about Jacob runningwhen I said we're doing a show.
Actually, he's been on the phonewith plan administrators because

(29:15):
since Trump announced that, I don't know, he's probably
covered this already. I'm going to rehash it, but I'm
jesting with you, right? So, so Biden era, you know, put
the big dampeners on plan administrators offering
employees crypto through 401K's and Trump now is doing reversal

(29:36):
and he's encouraging companies who have 41K's to offer crypto
to employees. So which is kind of something we
do because we roll over Iras andfour O 1 KS, but four O 1 KS
from previous employers or the 59 1/2.
But to be able to work at, I don't know, like a Boeing or, or
you know, some type of big Walmart or corporation.

(29:56):
Their employees have these four O 1K plans and they can pick,
you know, AB or C, you know, mild, moderate, aggressive.
But we've actually been approached and this is what
Jacob was talking to probably right now during our meeting is
planned administrators. And these planned
administrators, they're they're trying to get crypto whitelisted

(30:18):
so employees that these corporations can invest in
crypto. So when you look at Jamie Dimon,
CEO of JJP Morgan, a big naysayer of Bitcoin, hated
Bitcoin. It's crucial waste of time,
capitulated, took the knees like, OK, I'm on board guys.
Now their employees are allowed to roll 5 to 10% of their 41 KS

(30:39):
into crypto. So this is a whole big U-turn
because there's such a demand for it.
So I, I think, I mean, I will report and and tell you guys
when we do this, but I think we may be the first to market as
well, not just with AI, but to nationalize crypto plans for
employees across America. So once that materializes, I
will definitely, you know, come on and, and, and break that with

(31:01):
you guys. But it's, it's, it's going to
happen hopefully sooner rather than later.
But those things are obviously alittle bit slower because you
have, you know, lawyers involvedand, and regulations and a bit
more bureaucracy and red tape. But trust me, they're just as
excited to get it done as we are.
I mean, that's, that's unbelievable.
That's that's great because the people will will be able to

(31:27):
actually save have more money intheir in their retirement with
the block trust RA versus traditional because faces
central banks. They're all worried about the
crypto what what's going on withit because they're looking at
they're going to be useless at it in in a short time.
I hopefully. You want to look at JP Morgan,
they're, you know, they've, they're like can't beat them,
join them. So they're creating all these

(31:47):
companies now creating their ownstable coins because if they
don't, than these big corporations that are using
crypto for payment gateways through stable coins, the big
banks are going to lose out billions and billions of dollars
because there's going to be no merchant fees anymore.
So now they're creating their own coins so they can, you can't
beat them, join them. And that's, that's the
transition that's currently happening.

(32:08):
I like to when they when they when it plays out with the with
like let's say Jamie Dimon with with Chase, JP Morgan, what's it
going to be? How they going to work their
fees because you know they stillwant to get their money is.
It. Going to be is it going to be
worth even using them versus other other stable coins?
Time will tell, because if they're not competitive,

(32:29):
someone's going to use them. Yeah, they'll get used.
It's just like you're talking billions of dollars of
transactions and, you know, likea cent here, a cent there.
It it adds up. But I think ultimately,
hopefully the end goal is the consumer also wins because if
they've got lower merchant fees,those savings should be passed
on to the consumer as well if they want to remain competitive.

(32:52):
So, you know, I hope that's the case.
I mean, just look at the merchant fees, just we're using
credit cards, the everyday charging all the customers 3%
and the interest outrageous. Yeah, I'm still waiting for for
Trump when he said he wants to cap it down to 10%.
Whatever happened to that? Here's a couple of things.
That and the gold in Fort Knox. There's no gold in Fort Knox.
We're supposed to get an order. I keep telling people there's no
gold in Fort Knox. There may be very little, but

(33:13):
not what you think. Yeah.
And now, you know, you've got countries like Germany and
they're kind of stepping on the gas saying I think we want to
recall all of our gold and I think we should bring it back
home to our nation. So this is something else.
So yeah, could you imagine if there's no gold in Fort Knox?
I mean, that's, that's going to be something else.
I think there's something else there that that just golds the

(33:34):
cover story because you listen, Trump and Eli, they said it when
they were going to do an audit or Knox, he's the president of
the United States. But now all of a sudden it's
stopped and quiet about it. Something's wrong and they value
the gold at $60.00 an ounce. I said I'll buy it all from
them, $60.00. I said I'd give them $100.00 an
ounce. Don't worry.
About it. I smell a red herring.
Alright, we're going to be rightback after these few messages

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I got Jonathan Rose right here, the CEO with who's my one of the
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anesthesia fogging your brain. I don't know what you heard.

(37:50):
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because we got Jonathan Rose. He hasn't been here a while.
He almost forgot where he was going, but we got him.
Are you taking a picture? What are you?

(39:14):
Doing I'm taking a picture, I'lljust.
I'll send you a screenshot, don't worry.
I'm listening. I'm listening to the
instructions. You said take a picture.
I I held up my phone and I I snapped the screen.
All right, look, he follows. Direction.
All right, look at that. Yeah, lead by example.
I I wanted to see how easy it was.
Oh, how easy was it? It was easy.
I I went there and I tapped the QR code and it went straight to

(39:36):
our website. Oh, there you go.
Believe me, I always check the QR codes, make sure they work.
Can you imagine you'd tell the QR code doesn't work.
But you know, and I, you know, something with block trust.
So I know people always skeptical about, you know, your
retirement because there's, there's always been people out
there selling, you know, fraud and stuff.
But Jonathan Rose prides himselfon transparency, honesty and

(40:01):
integrity. And I told people about, you
know. You might run to a glitch or an
issue, who knows what it is, butyou can always reach out to
[e-mail]. We'll get it handled.
One, one of our customers, I don't know, something happened,
but he emailed me and I emailed Jonathan, spoke to him on the
phone and got handled within, I don't know, a few hours.

(40:22):
It was done handled just like that.
And he was so appreciative that that customer, he was very
happy. And you know, we no matter what,
nothing's perfect. We're always going to run into
stuff. So.
You strive to be though, that's that's the goal, right, And I
think when it comes to Genesis, it's kind of like the same
principles with with the block trust IRA is we want we

(40:46):
understand, like Krypton is verydifferent than gold, George,
right. People understand gold because
they hold on to it. They see it.
Crypto is so new. People have questions, but if
you try and take one of these big wallets out there, I don't
know, Kraken and what's that like Coinbase and you get stuck
and you try and call them, that's where you're ending up.
You're ending up, no offense, like in India and an overseas

(41:09):
call center and you're already dubious.
So asking you for seed phrases and stuff.
Everything we do is is US based.Yes, obviously you're you're
paying more for labour over here, but you don't want to
sacrifice quality and trust justfor a couple of bucks like these
these other guys do. So I think something that
separates us are a few things like the the customer service

(41:32):
people want to speak to people here in the US.
That's first and foremost. And and I will say, when it
comes to crypto, I just want to stress something.
We have a platform where people can purchase crypto.
We don't hold crypto. You hold the crypto, you're
purchasing the crypto through us.
We never hold anyone's money. We never hold anyone's keys.
Everything's done through what'scalled cold storage.

(41:54):
And we'll talk about military grade encryption for another
show. But as everyone owns their own
crypto, we don't own anything. We're just kind of the
facilitator. Yes, we have award-winning AI
strategies that we are actually the first AI strategy platform
out there that can manage cryptocurrencies.

(42:14):
And the reason why you want that, George, is because
cryptocurrency doesn't sleep. I used to work on the London
Metal Exchange in London from Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley.
We had an opening bell, closing bell, that opening bell,
everyone be sitting there waiting 321 and everyone starts
sorry, is Ding, Ding, Ding 24/7 365.

(42:34):
So when you sleep, you're invest.
You shouldn't, you know, you shouldn't be sleeping on your
investment. So the AI watches it like a
watchdog and we're looking at metrics and data on chain data,
which means who's leaving the market, who's coming in Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is a global traded asset.
So we're translating conversations like from

(42:55):
Mandarin, Spanish, you know, Japanese, English.
We're looking at investor sentiment through social media
channels, micro, macroeconomic inflation, jobs reports, I mean
everything. It would take millions of these
brains combined just to quantifyand compute all this data.
So when you're asleep, if something happens in the market,

(43:16):
you want to make sure you've gotthe cutting edge AI tools
married to a market that doesn'tsleep to protect you.
So not only can you capitalize on the upside, but you can
mitigate that risk on the downside.
And that's what we, you know, wedo so well and why we're kind of
haven't seen much of me lately because we've been featured a
lot in the news and but we're just happy to be do this with

(43:38):
you and Lance and you're featured on the.
News here once a week if you if you stop here.
Yeah, I know that that is true. And it's true the the big, big
audience. Yeah, hey, listen, it's grown
and grown. More views and more views.
Number one finance show on rumble #1 just saying everybody.
You guys are crushing it. You know, we always with block

(43:58):
dress IRA we're talking about, Ithink who's the Maximus that
said it. He said they're just their
servers alone and it's in Ireland.
He said, I'll never get this that the government reached out
to him and said, what do you guys do?
Your servers are are are bigger than our governments.
Like yeah, how many where servers, how many different
servers they have in different countries.
But that's just that's pretty big.

(44:18):
That's huge. That that is true.
Our legal told us not to mentionthe countries anymore, but I'm
just going to do it because I'm with you guys.
But but it is true what George said.
So I'm just going to repeat whathe said.
You know, this AI, this isn't like, you know, cat GBT and you
know how sophisticated that could be.
Our AI is extremely sophisticated where we have
Amazon servers globally in one country that George just

(44:41):
mentioned that government wrote to us saying, and what the heck
do you guys do? Because you're quantifying more
data than anyone in this country.
And they were kind of surprised to understand what we do.
And, and that's just on one vertical like that, that type of
data crunching. Just think how many verticals
there are. So AI is quantifying 10s of
millions of data points that a human just simply could not do

(45:04):
in this day and age. It's kind of like the iPhone
moment, right? There's been a, a technological
jump in investing and AI and, and anytime you can have these,
these tools to give you a competitive edge, that's what
you want. So that's, that's what we have.
And it's a, it's a great opportunity to participate in
crypto market where you have a watchdog watching your

(45:27):
investments, because we all knowwe all like the up, but people
don't like the down. So if we can manage the down
part of that roller coaster better, then then people are
much more happier. Yeah.
You know, one thing I just thought about too, to get
Maximus on, tell him how he keeps all that data.
Everything's secure. You know, people always like to
know, you know, if they're your,your money's with a company or

(45:48):
your crypto or whatever it is, what do they, what do they have
in place to secure, you know, keep away from hackers and bad
actors. Yeah.
So the, so the data is very separate than people's
transactions. So we work with a brokerage
company and the brokerage company with us, we carry $200
million in insurance. So people's assets are are
insured. Plus we use military grade

(46:09):
encryption and we keep off off chain, we keep it on what's
called cold storage. So we've never had a breach and
it's the only way to invest in crypto when you start going down
the the road of clay base and seed phrases.
Not saying it's bad, I personally wouldn't do it
because we hear stories, people getting hacked, forgetting their

(46:31):
seed phrases, etcetera. I'm a big believer the only way
to do it is through through coldstorage with a company that has
military grade encryption. Yeah, I mean, definitely cold
storage is the way to go. But even that, even people had
cold storage wallets they got, they got into them those hackers
from from North Korea. Once they moved, once they moved
back onto the exchange. Well, there was, you know what

(46:54):
it was? It was, I don't know.
It was they got in through people that worked there not
knowing, I forgot we explained it.
They're almost like through Zoom.
Actually, it was through Zoom. They did it.
They made like they said, all the links not working.
They made a fake zoom link like all I mean, so people clicking
on it, it's popping up a zoom and they're in there talking,

(47:16):
but it's also sending malware itmeans.
It's all a big thing, I can tellyou.
For us, we have redundancy upon redundancy, people's funds
couldn't even be liquidated unless they were, you know,
speaking to one of the traders anyway.
So you have military grade encryption, you've got full
storage. If you get past that, someone
wants to look, there's still going to be a confirmation like

(47:36):
a, a human being speaking to another human being to confirm
over the phone identity that they do in fact want to do that.
So I mean we take multiple, multiple multiple steps to make
sure that security is paramount and as it should be.
You hear that everybody You know, you brought up a great
point too early about Genesis Gold Group and what you guys do

(47:57):
that all your customer services here in the United States,
because I know so many people even my mother went just for her
insulin thing. They it's always the Indian she
goes please put me on somebody who speaks English and because
you just can't understand them. There's nothing against them but
just some people with the heavy accents.
It's hard to understand, but a lot of the companies are, I

(48:17):
don't know why they're well, I know why they're routing their
customer service to India, but you know, India's got one of the
biggest population of scam centers going on that.
How do you know, even though this company works well, let's
say whatever example Microsoft or Google that they're not
taking your data and selling to their friends at the scam
center. You don't.

(48:38):
George, I get those calls. My bank calls me from I'm from
City National Bank. It's an Indian guy and I don't
feel bad. Yeah, and my stereotyping
absolutely, because I've seen too many scams and they want me
to read back my account number to them to confirm my identity
before we go any further. I'm like, well, you called, you
called me and now you're asking me to confirm my identity with

(48:59):
you. I'm like absolutely not.
So I feel, you know, like I said, our gold company is the US
based. I think crypto is even more
important to be US based when itcomes to customer service
because guess what, in crypto people have a lot of questions,
right? They do they have a lot of
questions and and people, like Isaid, you go to this Coinbase,

(49:21):
not saying they're bad, definitely answer, you know,
cease and desist letter, not saying they're bad at all, but
when you're speaking to these companies and you're being
routed overseas, it doesn't giveyou the warm and fuzzy feeling.
That's just what I say. Just.
Just being routed overseas in the accents.
Nothing against accents, my mother has an accent, but it's
just doesn't feel secure enough.It's not like.

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Yeah. I think it's, I think it's like
you said, it's, it's got to do with like I have many Indian
friends. I grew up in England, like we
were melting pot of cultures anddifferent types of people.
But unfortunately India has become known as the scam capital
of the world. We see the people like on social
media posting these people getting back at scammers.
And unfortunately, they, they have these scammers that are

(50:07):
making more money than doctors in India because of broken
societies and cultural differences and money and
economy and, and they're scamming people that my
mother-in-law got, got scammed and, and, you know, and now I
have to. Yeah, yeah, I got her Social
Security number and was able to,you know, Microsoft needed
updating and she had to pay the money.

(50:29):
And, you know, luckily they didn't take.
Wait, what? Needed updating.
Microsoft. Her Microsoft was outdated.
Yeah, any, anything comes up with any of those Microsoft, all
that stuff, Never, never believethem.
It's one of the ways they get people off.
It's. Like, well, she's Scottish, OK,
so she moved here. My wife's got this.
So when we had kids, they're 12 now it's their birthday the

(50:52):
other week, have twins, boy, girl, twins.
Happy birthday to them. Not that they're listening.
That's throw that, throw that out to them.
So when my mother-in-law moved over and she's great, she's
wonderful. I'm very fortunate to have a
mother-in-law like I do, but. Yeah, she's recorded.
I'm going to make that clip for you so you can show it to your
wife in that. Yeah, and she believes I say
nice things about her and she's great.

(51:14):
She makes me, I come home. The other day she made me steak
and mushrooms. My favorite, I love it.
Not all mother in laws are bad. No, no, don't believe.
Don't believe it, but you know, she got a phone call and they
wanted her Social Security number and if it got hacked and
she gave it over the phone and she was, she was scared.
And yeah, no, she didn't have any different.

(51:35):
So there's a lot of unfortunate people who are older and, you
know, boomers and, and they get these phone calls from India,
dare I say, and they, they get scared so.
Yeah, the IRS one too, where yousay you're going to get arrested
right now if you don't pay this.I mean she.
Had that? She had that one too.
It's heartbreaking. It's just I I've told my mother

(51:56):
says don't fall for none of that.
If anybody ever gets a call it sounds like me saying send
money. Just use the code word that only
you and I would know to confirm it's me because they do that too
with clone the voices. Yeah.
So anything you take from away from the show today and you're
listening to this is speak to your loved ones, your parents
and just remind them that if they get a phone call talking

(52:18):
about Microsoft being updated orthey need their Social Security
number, do remind them do not give that information over the
phone all. Right.
We got a like 5 minutes left. I want to go over this because
you didn't know about this. I was, we were talking about it
and it's and it's all good in the hood because Bitcoin, I'm
going to put it up right here. Will Bitcoin serve as collateral

(52:40):
for mortgage? So William Pugh, he's the
director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency.
He announced on his X account, get this, everybody.
He announces, I think it was Wednesday that Fannie Mae, he
directed them Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to prepare their
businesses to recognize cryptocurrency as an asset for
mortgage purposes. I mean, this is huge.

(53:02):
He said he went on like saying after significant studying and
keeping in President Trump's vision, thank you President
Trump. It was crypto vision to make the
United States a crypto capital world.
Jonathan was just saying that early in the beginning of the
show. So he he said he ordered them
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to prepare count crypto as an asset
for a mortgage. Oh my God.

(53:23):
This could actually reshape mortgage markets, potentially
increase in access to home, homeownership for crypto holders.
This is huge. Yeah, I had a friend who told me
he, gosh, am I sounding like an elite asshole by saying this,
But he had a private jet. He sold it and the buyer bought
it in crypto. So I mean, it's just people are

(53:47):
paying for houses, they're paying for jets, they're
restructuring mortgages, finances.
And I talk about crypto being the future of money.
George, this is exactly what I'mtalking about.
When I said, and I saw you smucked when I said this, you
know, crumbs make a loaf. It's so true.
And what we're seeing every everyday are these stories that
are talking about Bitcoin Bitcoin Bitcoin Bitcoin it's the

(54:09):
future of money. Is it going to replace the US
dollar that's that's a whole another discussion for another
time. This is the future of money
right and it's the future of exchange yes.
We're not going to go to Starbucks and buy a coffee just
yet with a with a Bitcoin, but there's different applications a
way being used stablecoins. Thank you absolutely, but it's,

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it's here Trump's Trump has said, like you said, the so
capital of, of the world and we are going to be at the forefront
of this, the next head of the Federal Reserve is going to be
even more crypto friendly. And and these crumbs that are
being laid every day, essentially they're the pillars,
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And I think it's just a very exciting time to be in for this,
for this industry. Yeah.
So you know what you're just saying like you're going to be
able to go with your phone if you want to buy coffee, you
probably use stablecoin if crypto too.
It's you know, they're they're testing now.
They have cards now for their stablecoin credit cards.
I mean Genesis, sorry Stolen global has it out with their

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stablecoin. That's that's pretty cool.
They have a credit card. They.
Have a credit card? Yeah, they use it.
I like that. Yeah, it's, you know, the way to
go. Yeah, I like that.
I mean, less fees, more money for you.
Crypto is going to be it. And listen, the biggest hurdle
with this especially is the central banks, the people that

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have been controlling the money around the world for so long.
They're just greedy and they want to keep doing it.
That's who people like. They have a hold on on Jerome
Powell, you know, because they're stuck in their ways.
They're trying to, you know, protect what they have.
You know, like I said, we can't even get an order on our goals.
So what are they hiding? So crypto, it's full

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transparency, it's on the blockchain, just like with your
block trust IRA, everything is there for you to see, right?
Security, military grade security.
You know, one thing you also mentioned too is, you know, I
didn't think we even we even knew this.
You said they are, You guys are insured for 200 million?
Yeah. And that number's going to go

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up. Yeah, it is huge, yeah.
That's huge because people look at banks, they are, you know,
FDIC insured, right? 650,000.
Right. I know.
And then look how you guys are insured.
That's a big thing. We're going to have to talk
about that. No, So I'm going to have to add
that into my commentary now fromnow on.
Max, we'll, we'll, we'll get Maximilian pace on here.
We're asking the tricky questions about cold storage

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insurance, but more importantly economic outlooks because that
guy is sharp as a tact and it becomes very clear, very
apparent why they won the numberone trading strategy globally
feeding out billion dollar hedgefunds.
I mean, it's pretty, pretty wild.
We he, we snuck him on for the second part of the show.
He wasn't, nobody knew he was coming on and that people found

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out that show blew up. It was like 160,000 views.
Imagine we get him for the hour people people are going to tune
in and we'll, you know, promote the hell out of it because he's
got a lot of information and youknow you with the British
accent, but listens. Don't forget I have the text
message. I didn't show nobody the
screenshot. I I don't do that, but it does.

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You did say that. Oh my God, you did earn a earn a
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I'm just teasing you. All right, everybody, this is
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[e-mail]. So we have it already.
Jonathan will work on getting them for the hour.
Going to be tough and tricky buthe'll do it.
He'll pull through. Everybody's busy but can't keep
your fans and guests waiting, though not for long.
I'll make it happen. Yeah, it's Friday.
Enjoy the weekend. We'll see you guys next Friday

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here or Monday at 11 AM. The big, big show.
Love you guys. God bless.
Have a blessed weekend, Jonathan.
It's always a pleasure. We actually miss you on a show.
I missed you because you know I like cutting the rug up with
you. I know you missed.
Me too. You could say it.
I do I do. I miss you George.
I miss you. I miss Lance.
I appreciate you bringing me on and and we will be on and we'll

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we'll make it happen. I'm excited to bring Max on and
as always, congratulations to your guys's success.
I'm really happy to see you guysgot the number one show, finance
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