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You got a great interview backstage.
It's Igor Lapotonic. I hope I got that right.
Of course I've got. Yeah, I got it right.
OK, close enough. He's back there cueing me on.
Now. If you guys remember, we had
Simona Mangianti Papadopoulos onthe show for the Hunter Biden
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documentary. She was great.
And of course, that is Igor's documentary.
Let's bring him in, George. And I'm going to give his bio
wife in here. I don't want to leave him
backstage any longer than I haveto all.
Right. Welcome to the big, big show,
Igor. I'm not going to pronounce your
name until I hear you fully say it.
Hello, Igor. That's OK.
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Thank you for having me. Nice to meet you guys.
Yeah, and of course, Igor is an internationally recognized
Ukrainian American film directorand producer, celebrated for his
bull documentary films and of course tackle geopolitical and
historical subjects. He's got a career spanning 2
decades and has built a reputation for compelling
storytelling and technical innovation in cinema.
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Widely known for his collaboration with Oscar winning
film maker Oliver Stone. You know, we had Oliver Stone's
son on the show. Eager.
I don't know if you knew that ornot.
He's brought an alternative perspective on global events to
international audiences. Documentaries have achieved
worldwide distribution and critical attention.
Of course, they positioned him as a leading voice in
politically charged, history driven film making.
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So Igor, man, there's a lot of people around you that we seem
to know. Of course, Simona is one of our
close friends. George Papadopoulos, close
friend. Transform also my close friend
because we we finished with him Big 6 episodes of all the
President's Men doco series, what is available on the Tucker
Castle network and many others. Yeah, that's a great
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documentary. I've seen it.
You know, of course you've been doing some amazing work.
But let's, let's go back a little bit.
What you know, I don't know whenyou became a film maker, you've
been in for two decades at leaston the politically driven film
making. But were you always interested
in filming with this start earlyin childhood?
Where does the where does the whole story with Igor becoming a
film guy start? Oh, I I started studying rocket
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science after that. Go to the big business.
Go and work for government, makegood money in the big business
business. And in 2005 I was so bored about
that making the money because it's actually pointless
occupation. So I decided to switch to the
movie making from the scratch. I have no degree in the movie
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making. And so far as 59 successfully
accomplished projects, we start doing both equipment cameras, we
start renting them TV series, advertisement, commercial music
video films, films for TV, filmsfor the big screen and 2008.
Look, the son asked me what I'm doing in Ukraine and said I'm
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doing movie look, it's obvious that no bullshit, there is no
movies in Ukraine. You need to move US in LA.
So I I did as advised and Los Angeles also was welcoming
place. I did a lot of movies related to
restoration and colorization of black and white famous solid
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films and after that in to do couple of features.
In 2013, I met Oliver Stone and I was successfully with locking
him for my project as a producer, executive producer.
And he forced me to direct Ukrainian Fire, what is my so
far biggest movie. I, I probably can say 600
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million audience around the world and still fresh, still,
still gaining interest. That's a good achievement.
And he forced me to direct and Iwas not a director.
I'm not ready for that. He said, OK, you're passionate
about Ukraine, you know more than 10 times so you're going to
do I will help and he helped a lot.
And from this time until now, hehelping me the movie what we
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were gonna talking about the Iran the great game when I
screened it to Oliver, he said, oh, come on, dude, I expected
something better from you. What a mess you did.
So nobody gonna buy it not gonnanobody gonna distribute nobody
gonna see that you need to do that that and this because this
is a mistakes You said, oh, you got your bad student.
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You don't study anything from 12years.
But no, he just, he just keep caring about me, keep teaching
me. That's a very big deal for me.
And yeah, I did ask. He advised the movie increase
the value. It's better than before.
So this is that my short short buyer.
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Well, that's, you know, that's an incredible critique.
First of all, that Oliver Stone has that kind of confidence in
you #1 cause of course he's a great film maker, had so many
incredible films. But it's also got to be a tough
blow when the when your mentor says this, this, I expected
better of you. Yeah, of course.
Every time. Every time, yeah.
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That's got to be pretty tricky, but let let's back up for a
minute. Let's talk about some of the
stuff that you did complete. So colorizing these old the 13
different Soviet era films, including old men and are going
to battle. You did a lot of the the
classics, at least for the the the Russians.
How many languages do you speak,Igor?
I speak 3 languages. I speak Russian, bad English and
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Ukrainian. Betting.
I speak I'm. From I'm from Ford and Road in
the Bronx. George and I speak bad English
also, just so you know. We also.
Speak. I'm apologizing about my accent,
but I believe that American, American love the accent because
it's making like, you know, but the English less boring.
Yeah. There's no doubt, although the
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guys in New York, we all have our, you know, we have the, the
New Yorkers do have our own accent.
And of course, the Southerners, a lot of people, when I've
travelled around the globe, people, you know, even when I
think that I don't have much of A New York accent anymore, they
immediately recognize the New York acts.
And of course, New Yorkers are adifferent breed, not like the
ones now. Let me say this.
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I'm talking about the older New Yorkers, not these current New
Yorkers that I don't understand at all.
I don't know what the hell happened in New York.
But I was fascinated when I findout that's a 150 dialects in
English and that's that's so big, so big, so different.
Yeah, it's, it's funny. Well, you know, of course George
grew up in New Jersey and New Jersey and New York, and I grew
up in New York, Fordham Rd. in the Bronx and later Westchester
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County. And of course we have our own
slang and lingo. But, you know, I think it's true
of every, you know, this course,it doesn't matter whether you're
Ukrainian or otherwise. Everybody has kind of their own
slangs they use that people are used to that isn't necessarily
translated well if you're actually studying a language.
You also did 3D effects to The Nutcracker.
That's 2010. But let me let's dig in here for
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a minute. I want to talk about Ukraine on
fire. That's a that's.
That's a major film for you, so maybe give the audience for the
people out there that don't knowmuch about that film, maybe kind
of describe what it's about and then the follow up film also, I
think. That's very that's very good
movie to understand where and why war in Ukraine raging now.
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So you start with Ukraine on fire because everybody the
mainstream narrative is completely wrong about Ukraine
and as as a Ukrainian himself togive to Americans a historical
perspective of everything what'shappened in Ukraine in 2014 and
before, because all my starting in the coup in Kiev in 2014.
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That's an anatomy of this coup and the attempt to present to
audience alternative to mainstream version of events
with a very high flying politicians commenting,
especially ex president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych who
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was on Iran to Moscow and the President of Russia Vladimir
Putin. That's what Oliver interview
both and give to film very unique insights from the people
who was involved in decision making about everything what's
happened in Ukraine 2014 and after that we we also did a
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great analysis with the help of Robert Perry, who was amazing
investigative journalist. If you remember Robert Perry, he
broke that Iran Contras the caseand exposed the CIA importing
the drugs and financing the and the trading with Iran and
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financing the Arabian and the Nicaragua.
So this was my mentors in that film.
That was my how to say the keystone, the people who
understand the situation better and who give that analysis to
the audience. And after that we film
underground in Ukraine. We cannot stop doing this film.
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We we do it from November 2013 up to June of 2022 thousand
2016. And I understand I cannot finish
the movie. I need just to end it.
I just need to stop working on this and just release because
yeah, because everything was I'mgoing, I'm going, I'm going
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just, you know, the coup happened after that Crimea run
away after that, that they startwar and Donbass after that, that
they shut down the plane and it's, you know, always rolling
like a snowball and that snowball, especially in the
media when they start blaming Russia for everything.
Russia do that. Russia do this and I see I say I
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I I look on this with a yeah with a sense of shock because I
know that people is not a good people who is leading protest.
I know that people so hypocritical.
They killed protesters on the streets of Kiev.
They owned guys protesters in the back just to ignite their
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their appraisal. And it's war.
And that's a cold strategy of color revolution, of course.
And we analyzed that. We we trace the money in the
media. We trace and it's up to audience
to decide if we we are applying the position of Victoria Luland
and Ambassador Jeffrey Pyatt in this club, how they help, how
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they finance what the Soros, George Soros done for that so.
Let me stop you there for a minute because you're hitting on
a lot of topics for our show. Just, you know, nobody's safe on
this show, meaning that we go after all sides of the aisle.
We don't just blindly follow. George, you'd agree to this.
We're not yes men on this show, correct?
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Oh, I'm definitely not a yes man.
I know that I don't yes men to anybody or nobody.
Only God. Only God will be a yes men too.
God of my savior, Jesus Christ. Yeah, as a as an example, we're
still talking about Epstein. We're not happy about what how
this administration is treating the Epstein.
You know what though? No one else is talking about
Epstein since the shutter of thegovernment though.
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Yeah, they're getting. Very interesting, of course, you
know. But Igor, let me ask you this
because a lot of people want to know.
You know, we've talked about, I was always impressed that Simona
was able to interview Dirchak. I thought he was dead.
I thought the CIA, he disappeared for a while and I
actually thought the CIA had killed him.
And I, I worked as a government contractor years ago.
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I worked for, you know, Blackwater USA and Halliburton
and United Defence, the Sabre and lots of others.
And I was always aware of the fact that the CIA was definitely
entrenched into, you know, lots of things overseas.
So let me ask you this. Who's really responsible for
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what happened in Ukraine? Because we know the narrative's
been manipulated. And we know that George Soros,
in my opinion, he's an international.
Him and his son are international terrorists.
I don't think you know, Russia took a strong position on them
because they're obviously fully aware of what Soros is up to.
Who do you think is really responsible for the chaos and
corruption in Ukraine? Because I even to date, and you
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may not feel like this. I don't know, I feel to date
George, you tell me you if you agree or not.
I don't know how you feel about this.
I feel like Zelensky was just aninstalled puppet by the CIA.
I believe he was it was George. What do you think?
Yes. Stop.
I don't know if he's an install puppet by the CIA, but he's just
in it just for the taking the money.
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He's corrupted. Could be the CIA, I don't know.
You know what, Lance? That's a good one.
So I want to ask you. I'm.
Going to let you go? I want to ask you.
This I have an answer. For you on this show, we've
exposed all the money that of course he bought that ski in ski
out resort in France. He bought his wife a 4.6 million
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a dollar Bugatti. He's got the eight and a half
million dollar property in Ridgepont, Israel with a bunch
of exotic cars for his family members, him and his hench men.
They invested 46 million in properties in Switzerland.
He's got a $15 million penthousein Dubai.
He's got that mansion down in Miami that everybody tries to
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hide, but it does exist. I don't know if he sold it now.
He had a property in Italy that he sold.
And of course, I've been told that he has a exceeding $1.6
billion in offshore accounts down in the Caribbean.
So you take it from there. That's what I'm aware of.
And I've gotten that from what Iconsider very reliable sources,
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some of them within the NSA thatare friends of mine.
So go ahead, take it from there.So who is responsible for that
mess? First of all, Ukrainians
themselves because corrupted politician and opposition to
President Yanukovych who want more, who want money because
they know that position of President of Ukraine provide you
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a place to 5 billion revenue a year.
This is how corrupted Ukraine is.
They measuring position of president of the state in the
amount of money what is give to them.
And so first of all it's corrupted politicians in
Ukraine. I can call the names, I can call
President Poroshenko, I can callthe mayor of Kiev Klitschko and
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I can call neo Nazi leader of party Sloboda who I even just
just forget his name. That was the key people, but
they were supported and this is very important for us.
Who was providing that support. First of all, that was the
Embassy of United States and official position of Ambassador
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Jeffrey Pyatt and Under Secretary of State for European
Affairs Victoria Nolan and couple of very, very big medals
like on the top was the George Soros as well as the Russian
oligarch Berezovsky before. So this is a gang of people who
want to helping Democrats because it was very You cannot
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call Victoria Nolan Democrat. She is a deep state, but she is
a bird from the Dick Cheney nestbecause she started her career
as a as a CIA agent, trained in Russian language, spending some
time in Russia and understandingthe enemy and after that
carefully planning and executingplan to diminish the Russia.
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Why Victoria Nuland have something I believe personal
against Russia. You need to study her past.
She understand how she is a nurse, it's not real name, not
Nolan, but Noodleman and studiedher in details.
You will understand that Toria the terrible, how they call her
in the in the inner circle nursefrom the very, very close circle
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of Dick Cheney, whom you know. And that said a lot of yeah, a
lot. I'm not a fan of Dick Cheney.
This show is not a fan of Dick Cheney.
But I believe no one saying can be a fan of Dick Cheney or
Victoria Nolan or George Soros. Because if you see, if you look
at these people, you understand you have impersonated evil in
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front of you. Because covering the actions
with very nice rhetoric, they person the goal of personal
power disruption. And they don't care about how
many, how much blood they're going to spill.
They want to pursue their goals.They started with this story,
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started with the bombing of Yugoslavia, Serbia in 1999 and
person that agenda of liberal interventions.
So we decided you're doing bad with your people, so we're going
to bomb you people for that. This is how bad is started and
it's keep going and going and going and unfortunately that's
lead us on the edge of abyss of thermonuclear war with Russia.
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What will be disaster for Russiaof course, but will be also
killing us and destroying our beautiful planet.
This is why I cannot stand the wall of the lie.
What is pushing in the in the mind of Americans and others.
I try to do something what I canto educate and enlight.
And 1st, my tool is a history. You know we're talking about
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CIA. Exposing is all part of that,
right? And you've been, and that's why
I'm asking you some of these questions, because if anybody
knows, it's probably you becauseyou follow the same model we do.
The idea is to put the light on it, to educate people so there's
unification and to get the real truth out there.
You know, one of the hot topics when we talk about Derkash,
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right? And we talk about him being
indicted by the DOJ. That indictment's still pending,
of course, and it's a cover up. In my opinion.
It's a major cover up. Ukraine was a major money
laundering operation. Even now, many of the weapons
that we shipped to Ukraine, stupidly during the Biden
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administration, those have endedup on the dark web.
They've been resold, they've been sold and they've been
available to cartels have have taken advantage of that
opportunity between the mistakesthat the US government made and
leaving all those weapons behindand equipment in Afghanistan.
Of course, the cartels have beenextremely well funded because of
the human trafficking. But the stories about Ukraine,
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you know, the early on, maybe itwas when it first came out, we
were covering because we had a pretty good source.
We were covering all the bio labs and what had happened with
the Department of Defense and how they had funded those bio
labs all around there. What are your thoughts on
Burisma, another very hot topic in Ukraine?
The the the US government, of course, during Biden tried to
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discredit that story. I believe it's factual.
I believe that many people, including the children of many
of our government officials benefited from the Burisma money
and a lots of other things related to that.
And of course, they did everything they could.
Biden was very vocal about getting the prosecutor fired.
He made a big deal about that. What are your thoughts?
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Is Burisma? Are the American people that
they've been lied to about Burisma?
I did couple of movies on the top subject.
The first time I mentioned Burisma in 2019 when Amar film
revealed in Ukraine when we interviewed Rizola Stone, leader
of opposition politician in Ukraine, Viktor Madrichuk.
And when we talk about Burisma and we talk about how Ukrainians
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meddling in the election of 2016in here in the United States and
how Biden was firing the prosecutor general shocking in
Ukraine for for for catching their tail Burisma Brown doing
going after his son. After that we did we dedicate
full film to that. We talk about this in the
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Ukraine 30 years of independencewhen the Simonam and Jiantha
Serbia as an interviewer and sheinterviewed a lot of politician
included of their catch in Ukraine and including of
President Yushchenko. And in 2024 we released another
film, what's called Panther's laptop, Requiem for Ukraine.
Why is Requiem for Ukraine? Because who is suffering this?
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The Biden family made them rich,but the price was paid by
innocent Ukrainians who was slaughtered for that.
And This is why dead Biden is family is a criminal gang and I
believe still need to be prosecuted because as a lesson
to everybody who is selling the office of presidency of United
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States for money for the small money.
It's not such a big money comparing to the power what the
White House possess. That's millions.
It's just nuts. Nothing but they did it and they
walk away with that murder. They it's unbelievable how
reckless that was action and howreckless that actions of this
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family endanger just the regularAmericans because we don't
deserve it. We actually, I strongly believe
in that. We position it as a strategic
allies with Russia because Russia was laying Asia and
Europe, but possess the mental values, values, European values,
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Western values. That's a perfect bridge for us
to establish understandable communication to China because
they lay in the Asia. So Russia can be a bridge of
United States to China. That's a way how we can
collaborate. Instead of that, we are running
the proxy war in Ukraine. We still involved in that and
even I want to say that's when Donald Trump, whom I admire,
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whom I wought 3 times for him and elections here, he still
trying to position himself. This is not my war, this is
Biden war. I am OK with that.
But let's don't forget as a president of United States, he
is responsible for everything, for every human being living
here. You know, this is a lack of debt
responsibility in a Mr. Zelanskiposition because he don't care
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about Ukrainians. First of all, he is like, you
know, he's not Ukrainian, he's aJewish.
Second, he don't believe in God.Let's provide him money, and
even the money not only for his pocket and the pockets of
corrupted Democrats whom he's sending kickbacks back to the
United States, but for European.Hold that thought.
I'm going to stop you there. I.
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Caught that too. Let's, George, I'll let you ask
the question because you, you, you, you popped out.
I think it's just a second before I did.
When you just mentioned Ukrainians bring giving
kickbacks to the United States, well, there's been some
investigations that that, you know, aid that we were sending
there was being funneled back even through like Act Blue, one
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of them, I believe going back tokickbacks to politicians.
So what? What do you have on this?
And what and what politicians can you name?
Because we want to hear names, Igor.
Because at the end of the day, that's what our show is about.
Just like you, we want to exposethe truth.
Because I agree with you, let mepreface this question.
I think that that that story hasbeen covered up, that Derkash is
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still under indictment because Ithat makes the DOJ complicit.
I believe it's the Department ofInjustice in many ways.
I'm not a fan of Pam Bondi. I don't think she's moving
rapidly enough and I don't thinkshe's doing what she was hired
to do. In my opinion, which of course,
I voted for transparency, accountability and consequences.
The story about Zelensky, here'sthis guy who who's been known to
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dress up and drag play a piano with his penis supposedly for
for a comedic effect. And all of a sudden he ends up
as president of Ukraine. There's lots of dark ties to the
CIA, The money laundering that has been a talk of topic that's
come up over and over and over again.
So give me names. What, what, what?
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Whether the Democrats or Republicans, I don't care.
You can put them on how many andwho?
Who is getting money as kickbacks?
Who do you believe anyway? And do you have anything to back
it up? Any facts?
Let me let. Me explain you how it's work
when the Russians trying to invite in Ukraine already start
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invasion in Ukraine on February 22, 2022 Yeah that the landscape
and his gang cashed out 1,000,000 of bitcoins through
that money laundering through Iran and United Arab Emirates
into the United States. Dollar cash in was ready to run
away because they was afraid they will be like Russian troops
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in Kiev in a few days. So that's how rich they was
before more than $1 billion in cash was cashed out right on the
day of invasion. But later later that was a
scheme what they doing they using that program in Ukraine
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that's called big big construction.
It's close closest translation like our build better under the
Biden. What is so they use this program
to money launder the money and to use this money for first of
all for promotion and the publicity they own.
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So they paying? Was BlackRock involved?
At that point, because I know BlackRock has made a bunch of
deals over in Ukraine, give me aIs BlackRock involved in this?
I'm very. Precise investigative journalist
on this subject. I never claim anything what I
don't have a solid proof as a asa we asked that question to
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Vladimir Putin in 2019. Did Ukrainians meddle an
American policy? He said for sure, but this is
not a secret and I cannot say the names because if I will say
the names, I need to provide thepapers.
So this is what I'm doing. I put the name say allegedly.
Hold. On you can put.
Type the names in the chat over to me privately in the chat on
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Zoom and I'll say the names. Yeah, names.
Names is very obvious because you need to possess some
intellectual capacity to understand who is benefiting
from that and who is mostly vocal on that.
So I can say the names. First of all, George Soros, he's
having kickbacks because his wayof operation was all the time
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meddling politics and the money and he was reimbursed for every
actions what he did to ignite the color revolutions abroad
from State Department. So George Soros was paid back
for that. Second names everybody
politicians who backing up our endless war strategy, starting
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with the Lindsey Graham before that, that was a Senator McCain.
And after that you can call every parking sorry name of
people who were mongering who trying to always go much tougher
and put it let's deliver tomahawk, let's deliver that
that that's people all the people on the top of the list.
I'm afraid that list is very big.
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The list is very long because everybody who is benefiting from
oh, ask, answer the question, ask you this, how do you think
they did? It did they use Bitcoin?
Did they use cryptocurrency wallets?
Did they use cash? We've heard some stories about
cash that we never were able to validate.
How do you think that? What was the conduit to pay
these people? So let's say they wanted to kick
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back money to Lindsey Graham. Did George Soros do it through
political contributions to Lindsey Graham?
Or do you think there was a morenefarious pathway?
Because when it comes to money laundering, you know, having
worked as a government contractor, of course money
laundering is a standard operating procedure.
When you're in these different operations, you have to get the
money to certain sources. Sometime it turns out to be
cash. Sometimes it's done through
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different conduits, multinational banks, shell
companies. What do you think the process
was? Any concept?
I know that's some people. Is very open.
For example, Mike Pompeo, he's taking the bribes from Victor
Pinchuk, Ukrainian oligarch through his associate company in
a in a mobile phone. He's receiving just a 1,000,000
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plus something per year. But he not in a position already
in the government, so he taking this as a current citizen.
This is no crime in debt cryptocurrency.
Of. Course and especially if they
already buried the people they already bankrupted the company.
It takes what was involved in the initial money laundering
scheme. So they're using all possible
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things they careful, but Zelensky name continuously
popping up in other and other kind of how the investigation of
money laundering and scam. For example, in the Panama paper
what even that was done by OCCRPwho is outlet of Soros in CIA.
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But they they find out that Zelenski also has accounts and
and and the Bagamas in the wholearea.
That's right. But I believe they much more
invent inventive in this. I believe they're using crypto
and they probably using couple of associates that you will
never see the name of Zelenski. You will never see you see all
the names what will tell you nothing because this is a cover
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up. This is how money laundering is.
But the guy who was paid for Zelensky campaign, Igor
Kolomoisky, he's investigated byFBI in a money laundering of
more than 800 billions in the United States.
Can you imagine how that how massive this money laundering
operation is if this was done even before when Zelensky come
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to power? This is what's happened to to
the money laundering operations.I believe that FBI have a lot of
information on this, including the names of American politician
and I strongly believe that sooner or later question.
That ashes. I'm going.
To interrupt you. Have you ever, and I don't know
if you can say it or not as the our current administration
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through the FBI or even Pam Bondi, has anybody ever
attempted because you are a a massive Trevor treasure trove of
information. Has anybody contacted you or
interviewed you or asked for information for you to kind of
walk them through things that you can't see on the show?
Just I was. Contacted on a day of
inauguration of Biden by two nice agents from FBI knocking at
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my door and start asking the questions about Russian
influence in United States. I said I'm sorry guys, I know
little about Russian influence but I know a lot about
Ukrainian. Take your notes and I start
saying the American what I know.So yeah, FBI was given, but that
was under Biden. So that that that information
probably ended up in some burn bags, my guess based on the way
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they operated. But I'm talking about the
current administration. I'm talking about Cash Patel,
Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino supposedly.
I'm talking about Radcliffe, youknow, the people that supposedly
would be the individuals that would want to get to the bottom
of this. Have you been, has anybody made
any attempt to interview you or talk to you?
(34:54):
No. Answer is no even even I know
personally Kesh Patel. We interview him for all the
President's men and I was accused by that not David Korn
and Rachel Maddow to bribe in Kesh Patel when my company
American company fully officially openly paid 25K
compensation for cash time spending an hour set.
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Yeah, hold on for a second. Hold on right there because
we've got. To take a short commercial
break. I already went over the break
because you've got a lot of information and I'm trying to
get to the bottom. Of course, we hear a lot of
things from our sources. All right, listen, the big, big
show is going to take a short break.
We'll be back with Igor. You don't want to miss any of
this stuff. We're we're digging in now, so
you know how that goes. At the end of the day, baby, tip
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course, Igor coming back at you.I don't want to butcher his
name, so I'm going to leave that.
You're not going to want to missa minute of this interview.
We're we're going all in. Stay tuned.
We'll be right back. I want those names.
Write them. Down.
Yeah, we're naming names, baby. We're naming names, all right.
Be right back. Don't go nowhere.
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I couldn't get them. I'm sorry.
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So, Lance, that's on you. All right, Igor, what do we got?
We need names, dates, places so we can go after and.
Listen and let me. Add this to it.
Igor what? About the mainstream media, were
you able to paper trail any money trails to any of these?
Because we've seen it through USAID.
How much money got funneled to social media influencers,
celebrities, NPRPBS? So many places got money in
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court. Not the right, not the
conservative right, only the farleft-leaning journalistic
sources. Do we able to paper trail any of
those groups also I believe? That a big danger in this this
Obama under his term build an industrial level industrial
level of manipulation of media what include experts,
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influencers, media themselves and a key point people.
And that's so dangerous because this is actually on the level of
warfare. This is a weapon.
This weapon was designed to fight the war informational war
as a part of hybrid war in a contemporary contemporary
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warfare and they use it against American people.
Of course it's a crime. Of course it's have a trails
because you know, footprints andthe snow all time exist.
Money is not things, money is making footprints.
So tracing that money is a dangerous things.
It's not my first goal. My first goal is to make a movie
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and to educate the people. But from time of making this
films, we see a lot of a lot of hard die hard evidences about
the criminal actions of people who was involved.
And what strike me is even more important than the list of
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names, because you know, you already know that names exactly
same people who was conspiring against President Trump in his
2016 first term. That's exactly same people who
organized the war and run the war in Ukraine and who backing
up Zelanski now. So this is the same gang so that
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the coup in United States and war in Ukraine, that's
interconnected like that. And this is a big question.
I think the Americans need to understand that when the names
look at George Soros, names likeLindsey Graham next, like
Victoria Noland on the top of that list, and it's a long list.
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I I don't know if we have a timeto go through every details,
every evidence. This is the big, big show.
You are we make time. We don't, we don't have no.
Time. Constraints on us, so their
strategy. Is lying, lying, denying,
counter attacking, lying again and make it in such a fast pace
what audience is completely continuously interrupted,
(44:51):
distracted and the attention of media circle driven from to the
different subject. So what you're saying is a.
Typical politician. We got that.
Yeah, that's a. Strategy of informational
operational influence. This is how they do they
organize in the orchestra information.
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Warfare, of course, controlling the narrative.
They create a false narrative and then they perpetuate the
narrative from consistent lying.They always say the best lies
are those lies that are intertwined with shreds of
truth. You take a shred of truth, you
wrap it in a really sophisticated lie, and then you
market that lie using mainstreammedia, using paid operatives,
using the intelligence apparatus, using international
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press, all manipulated and paid for.
But let's talk about that. I'm going to switch gears with
you here because I want to talk about Iran, the great game.
This is your new documentary. You are rewriting the story of
the US Iran conflict. I know a lot of details about
that. At the end of the day, I
understand what's happened in the Middle East, maybe more so
(45:58):
than others. Let's talk about what you've
done here because this is a big deal.
This film is wrapped up. I think it's available now.
I don't know. Let's talk about why you did
this and what the real story is behind it and what people can
expect to find out. What are you exposing in this
film, first of all? I start making that movie when I
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understand that Donald Trump projected to win election.
In my mind, this happened in 2023-2024.
I was already in full gear working on this film.
And the biggest problem for him and the foreign policy will be
Ukraine, what we covered pretty much, and Iran, because sooner
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or later they will run him inside of this war.
What we don't need. And I try to educate American
people about what has really happened with Iran, why Iranians
do not trust United States, why we blame Iran for everything bad
possible, like, you know, makingthe perfect villain and what is
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the real history behind of that.So I go to Iran.
It was not so dangerous as I expected before.
They very, very warm people. They gentle, they the culture is
so different. It was very hard to penetrate.
But I did the movies in Asia before the Western Asia is very
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special specific place. So I travelled the country, I
filmed A tag around filming the Jans province and Isfahan and
Shiraz and all over Iran, omances.
And after that I interview people here it is my teacher
Oliver Stone feels because he know a lot about Alexander the
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Great invasion in Persia in the in late 4 and the Jeffrey Sox
who know who running the foreignpolicy of United States about
Iran. Of course it's Israel.
And also I speak to a very nice fine English gentleman, Alistair
(48:09):
Crook, who was a British diplomat and MI 6 for 30 years.
I was about to say MI 6. The MI 6.
Very small. Can I ask you a question?
Was he? Involved in the 1953 CI AM I6
orchestrated coup, which of course reinstalled the Shah of
Iran. Was he part of that?
I don't think so, no. I think that his biggest, his
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biggest achievement was setting up the negotiation first
negotiation face to face and sitting around the one table
Hamas people and Mossad people. So this is his achievement, but
he was, I believe on this time, not already on the MI 6.
He's not more than diplomacy. He was not involved in a shock
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because it was a little bit early 1953.
We touched this in my film. By the way, film is available on
Amazon Prime and everybody who want to see that and also on the
Salem Salem Now Network. So just hit the button on the
Amazon Prime Video, hit the Iranthe Great Game and you will see
the film. It's two hours.
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It's take 2 1/2 years to to makeit and this is attempt to
analyse not only current affairsof United States and Iran, what
is actually rebalancing on the age of war.
This is a state of affair and but also 5000 years of history
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of Iran and the history why we call it Great game because how
the great game is played by peril Britain and peril Russia
on the territory of Asia for access to India.
That was a very interesting historical subject.
But as Alistair tell me Igor grand game is over.
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They desperate for one goal theydiminish the goal of great game
to the one goal take off the Trump was surprising me.
We sitting in Tiger and hotel and and keep saying me so the
goal of great game in Europe is just one goal take off the Trump
why because Trump doing something what is not fitting
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that scenario of endless war andI'm this film is education for
American audience about Iran. Of course, it's impossible to
tell the story of 5000 years in the in the two hours impossible
completely, no doubt. Let me hold you there.
I want. To play the trailer and then
hold that thought, I want you tocome right back in.
I want the audience to see the trailer so they can get a feel
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for what you're doing here. How long has this been out,
Lance? Now this.
Ivor How long has this movie been out?
Two hours? Little.
Bit more than two hours? No no.
When did the movie? 'S released now, it's available
to be seen now, correct? Yeah, we start where?
Is in the end of August, so OK end.
Of August, I know. You gave us the.
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I have the. Full movie.
Can we put it up on our documentary channel here in
Mumble? The full movie, no.
Because we still, we still have the light sensing obligations
and by the way, we have a. Documentary Channel on Rumble.
If any of your older documentaries that you've
already monetized, if you'd likethem to be put up there, let us
know. OK, you can provide.
Those to George you. Connect with him the documentary
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channel does very well over on rumble.
We've got lots of documentaries from lots of different experts
and professionals like yourself all right let's play the let's
play the trailer George. Let's.
January 8th. 2020 the. Passenger plane falls.
From the sky in Tehran, 176 lives lost in seconds.
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But what if? This was only the.
Spark in a much older fire. To understand why the West fears
Iran, you must first ask why it tried to remake it.
Iran third largest. Oil reserve in the world from
Cyrus the Great. To the War on Terror, from
ancient empires to modern sanctions, it is a story.
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No, no, I'm I'm not sure. Well, of course, a lot.
Of people don't recognize what Iran has been a, a political,
you know, I think a pawn in the global chess board.
Of course, a lot of people don'trecognize that.
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And then you've made those connections and you start with
the Downing of that flight, PS752.
Why did you think that was a great point to bring up as the
starting point of the film? Why did you pick that flight?
Because it's a tragedy. First of all, I, I look on the
making the movie about that flight and what's happened to
them, why that's fall from the sky, why that's flight was shut
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down by mistake. But as soon as I start digging
deeper and deeper, I see bigger picture.
I I keep the plane and explain the story of the plane, but I go
more concentrate more on the questions of regime change in
Iran and why it is wrong, why itis dangerous and why it's never
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work or it's work and fire back so badly.
So we were suffering the consequences of this.
This was my goal. So goal was making the movie was
initially to cover the story about, about this innocent plan,
you know, Ukrainian plan in Iraq, in Iran and the, and the
Americans killing the Qasem Soleimani and the order of
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President Trump. That was a perfect drama,
perfect setup for the film. And later I find out I need to
talk more about the entire that change in the game regime change
operations in Iran, what we run continuously but from the time
of 1953 and a little bit early and how Iranians respond what we
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what we grow in their response of region of us as Americans.
That's a complicated things because first of all, I
mentioned the culture difference.
Cultural difference is big. You know, first we Christians,
they Muslim, second, they have history of 5000 years, different
invasions, different fights. We have history of 250 years.
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And that's like a spark in the historical on the historical
timeline from their perspective.And we teaching them how to
gather themselves. We we know that we call them the
Theocratics. Even the brightest minds of my
friends who who helped me to make that movie as my teacher
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Oliver Stone, they calling them theocrats.
This is not theocratical regime because it is different regime
and nobody trying to understand,everybody trying to project the
dominance and it's failing again, again and again.
The dominance is not the answer for building our position, our
foreign policy stand on to Iran.We tried for 40 years.
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We never go to the goal. We never got to the goal.
Now it's again the people advocating for regime change in
Iran. And you know what's funny, as
you know, I mentioned Mike Pompeo in previous sections and
I make I mentioned him again because he taking the money from
that organization. What was not so long before on a
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terrorist list? Mac advocating for regime
change. Also John Bolton.
Wasn't he part of that also? Oh yeah, John Bolton.
Accidental. This is a professional
warmonger. He's warmongering at every
possible France. Yeah, he's also taking the money
from exactly same people. Yeah, I mean Pareo.
In Hold on. Yeah, sure.
I I. Ran the the trailer through
(55:55):
Premiere Pro and redid it in a different format so I can play
it now. Yeah, let's go ahead and play it
right now. George, thanks for doing that,
buddy. January 8th. 2020 the.
Passenger plane falls. From the sky in Tehran, 176
lives lost in seconds. But what if?
This was only the. Spark in a much older fire.
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To understand why the West fearsIran, you must first ask why it
tried to remake it. Iran third largest.
Soil reserve in the world from Cyrus the Great.
To the War on Terror from ancient empires to.
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Keep doing that to the. Audience, I don't know why it's
stopping on me. That's too bad that it is.
All right, well, listen, let's talk about Bolton and Pompeii.
Of course they were the they they spearheaded that
assassination of Iranian GeneralCassini.
They made a big deal of it. Of course, it was all over the
press and they were excited about it.
We always talk about the power of the military industrial
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complex. What do you think the real
intent of that was? Was that just more moves on the
imperial chess board or what wasthat first of?
All what is the biggest danger with that?
Because that people know that behavioral pattern of our
president, they calculate him very well and they sell him the
idea of killing Qasem Soleimani to make him look bigger than
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Barack Obama killing Osama bin Laden.
First of all, I believe my Christian believes that killing
human beings, this is an act of sin.
So this is wrong. I'm not approve any killings,
doesn't matter who ordered them,but why and how they sell it.
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And they, they will try to do itagain because the same, same
technology, if it works once, they're going to work again and
again. So of course, every person, even
the president of United States have a behavioral pattern.
If you do that, if you show thatto him, he will do this.
For example, why Zelanski when he was talking to Trump, why
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bring some pictures with him andshowing this to the president?
Because somebody told him to do that.
Who? Who advised him?
Because we know that people in intelligence who is working for
Victoria Nola than others who teaching Zelensky how to impress
Trump, how to make him unbalanceit and how to make him to do
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something what he don't want to do when he pragmatically
thinking about this. This is a danger of this
technology. Because as a film makers, as a
film director, I do exactly samewith my audience.
I first of all ignite an emotionand after that when emotion is
here, I sell in something like, you know, messaging.
(58:54):
So this principle, if you hear something about Cambridge
Analytica, this is just a top oficeberg.
But before behind that the company named CLS who is a
masterminds of all informationalinfluence affairs and the
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killing of Qasem Soleimani. For me it's a brilliant example
how the real President of UnitedStates can be wasted and
manipulated by people who personthey own goals.
I think we saw so. Much of that in the first Trump
administration. He had lots of people around him
I did not trust. I didn't like Mike Pompeo from
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the very beginning. He made the hair on the back of
my neck stand up. I didn't like Bill Barr and so
many others. Christopher Wray, there was just
so many individuals around and in the administration.
Laura Loomer's done a pretty good job of outing them.
But of course, they did a fantastic job of suppressing
lots of the information online and, and at that point, a lot of
things hadn't been exposed. What do you think in in this
(59:59):
situation? Do you think Trump understands
that he's being sold a bill of goods?
Do you think he's more aware this time?
I believe so. I believe so.
He is much different. His posture, his results in the
second edition is much better than the first.
He's much well prepared and he'ssurrounded by some people whom I
can trust for example, Tulsi Gabbard or Cash or others and
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the people who's talking to to him as well.
I know we interviewed General Flynn for all all the
President's men. I I understand he's a military
guy said this something very interesting.
He said if I will have a gun on me and I will told and have an
order to kill the Putin, I will shot him in the head with no
hesitation. This is how he projects himself
(01:00:45):
as a military person. So I under command and order,
but that's all people they're advocating for peace because
they understand how bad will theconsequences of real hot war of
United States and Russia and whyIran is here because you know
the situation in Iran, I was told by Iranians kind of
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influential, influential Iranians.
Igor, we feel much differently now because last three years
changed everything from 2022 when Russia go in the war in
Ukraine. We are strengthening our
relationship with China and Russia dramatically.
So we now feel totally differentthan we feel before when we were
standing against the United States of powerful player alone.
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So Iran, Iran, it will be a key point because the problem is
here that Israel will try to project all possible influence
what Israel developed in the United States.
To lure United. States into the war with Iran
because they cannot run this waron their own, they have not
enough of capacity for this war and they understand there's only
(01:01:54):
one big danger and they for their territory integrity and to
goals of Israel state as it is now this is Iran.
So This is why that film given to American audience alternative
to mainstream analysis of history of Iran governance and
(01:02:14):
history of Iran and relationshipof Iran to the great power of
the great game. So this I believe not an answer
but just a background education,because if the shit happened and
if we will go on a big war, the consequences for all of us will
be very, very bad. Because we can that war can
(01:02:36):
distract us from something very important, what we're doing
inside of our country, trying torebuild and save.
Because believe me or not guys, I was survivor of falling of
Soviet Union. I see same signs.
The money is start losing the value people hate each other,
they divide it the politicians keep ranting and and giving them
(01:02:59):
different destructions, but overall our country going down
and the thing that is you think you think because they always.
Say 200 years and we're way pastthat for a superpower.
Do you think that right now the signs you see having lived
through the fall of, you know, the, the, the Russian economy
and the Russian government, do you think we're a superpower in
(01:03:22):
decline and maybe in fact being $37 trillion in debt, where our
destruction is imminent? We are definitely.
In decline, but did we need to sit and wait and look on this
and try to do nothing No, we need to fight against that.
We need to find where is our mistakes.
We need to fix that because as aChristian, I believe that every
(01:03:45):
people who praying to God, they will be here and that will be
answer. So we need to find back our idea
because we lost an idea and thisis the biggest problem for the
Western civilization. Where is our idea, what we're
doing, why we're living there and let me stop you.
I got to ask. So.
I downloaded another two different trailers, the original
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trailer, the one I checked it, it stops on its own.
It's not here. So let me play this, OK?
January. 8th 2020 the. Passenger plane falls.
From the sky in Tehran, 176 lives lost in seconds.
But what if? This was only the.
Spark in a much older fire. To understand why the West fears
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Iran, you must first ask why it tried to remake it.
Iran third largest. Soil reserve in the world from
Cyrus the Great. To the War on Terror, from
ancient empires to modern sanctions, it is a story about
power, about memory, about defiance.
Iran is a. Civilization state.
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It's at the crossroads of Eurasia.
When it comes to regime change. the United States does not abide
by international law by the willof the people.
What does the world see? When it looks at Iran, a threat
or a nation that is simply refused to kneel, the Parthians
never acceded to Rome. They never gave up when they.
Why the people as evil and good?This is the beginning of
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mistake. The great game is over.
This is not just Iran. 'S story it's.
Ours too. All.
Right, see we got it. Got 3 * a charm.
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I'm a relentless man. I'm a relentless man.
Yeah, you know, you know I. Got to ask you this course
Netflix has been in the news forwhat I would consider a grooming
operation. We covered it the other day.
It's incredible the amount of content.
And of course you chose to to release on the Tucker Carlson
network, one of your projects. What do you think the future is
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of the for digital platforms? Do you think the future of
documentary, you know, documentary distribution,
especially when it's content like yours, do you think these
alternative platforms are the real solution?
Cause of course suppression is still going on.
And do you think this operation we see of content that seems to
undermine the United States or at least the children of the
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United States, whether it's TikTok or it's on Netflix, What
do you think? Do you think that's intentional?
Do you think there's a there's amaster plan behind the scenes,
first of all? Netflix it's a Obama platform
because infiltrated into the board by Susan Rice and not even
mentioned on their official website.
(01:06:38):
But she is in there and she's inposition as waiting what should
put what should not. So Netflix, sorry, I'm not
calibrating with Nexus anyhow, I'm a Public Enemy.
I'm a Netflix. So we choose Amazon.
We also on the many others platforms, independent
platforms, I believe the contentis a key and a good content
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can't find the way to the audience through the different
channels. You know, we was severely
censored on the Ukrainian fire and it's lead only for 600
millions of audience around the world and this is.
How it's work? If you're silencing, if you're
attempting to silence something and people see that they're
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gonna do, they're gonna find a way.
So I'm in 2022 when we were silenced in the during the
summer after this few years already on the on the on the on
the show. And it was suddenly we was
killed by YouTube, by Vimeo, by Apple, by everybody.
I give up the copyright for my film and I give it to audience
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for free and YouTube and everywhere that people see 3000
different sources of film, it's impossible to penetrate.
We reached like a 6,000,000 on aRumble for just a few days,
thanks to a CEO of Rumble who give us front page for promoting
our film. And then people who help like
Glenn Greenwald, Oliver and others, they help us to
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penetrate this wall of censorship.
So I believe in a good content, telling the truth to the
audience can find a way even in oppressive silencing regime of
contemporary media, all big media, it is corporate media
that mean they have an agenda. They have they first agenda is a
profit. But you know, even my movie was
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#1 on Apple TV, number one in the documentary on Amazon.
And they cancel it because that's something else.
What is bigger than money. So they afraid of truth.
But audience have a different agenda.
Audience want to see the truth. Audience want to see some
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alternative versions of events and they can find a way to your
content. If your content is a great.
So my answer that's answer was Hollywood based on content is a
key. So good film can find a way to
the audience anyway how you censor it And I think you're
right. You know what kind of advice is
a successful film maker? What kind of advice would you
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give to the aspiring documentaryfilm makers that are of course
looking to tackle complex geopolitical issues, while of
course that you want them to maintain a strong narrative
voice? What could you tell these
younger guys below you that are still trying to do it but
haven't had the success you've had?
What's what? What's the best strategy?
(01:09:29):
I'll get it. Try to make something real.
Forget to make in films. Honestly, try to make it.
Try to make it good as the struggle is real.
Yes, it is you. Will be struggling.
You will be blank, you will be prosecuted, you will be lost
your income if you will continueseriously.
So try to make it as good as youcan and try to be passionate
(01:09:53):
about this and the good content.We'll find out.
It has not happened from the from the from the first film.
That's that's a long journey. You need to keep buying this
lottery ticket making another movie after another movie.
And that will that's happened tome on the Ukrainian fire in
2016. And after that on the Snowden,
what we helped to produce to Oliver Stone, because you
(01:10:14):
mentioned he was a contractor. I also met one contractor, his
name Edward, he's reside in Russia now, happy two kids.
He take the Russian citizenship,he study language, his wife with
him, He's OK, The guy who servedhumanity a lot because he tell
us that's that people is spying on us without violating the law.
(01:10:36):
And who was in this? We showed the Clapper.
Ahead of NSA in our film Snowden.
There's nothing changed from this time.
The guy is still walking free, not indicted.
I very badly want all of these people on the list.
I I waiting for 9th of October to see Mr. Comedy behind the
bar. But is it just the beginning if
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they all the perpetrators will be not bring it to justice, they
will do it again for sure. There's no doubt you know they.
Always say that, of course we compare it to a bartender that
steals a drink. He steals that first drink and
puts it in his tip jar. He doesn't get caught.
Then the next night it's 2 drinks.
(01:11:18):
Next night it's 3 drinks. And that bartender eventually
starts paying his rent because he's stolen so much.
And you're right, without without transparency and then
accountability and consequences,they're going to just continue.
They've been empowered to continue The Dirty 51 + 8 911
Seth Rich laptop, their Hunter Byter laptop that you covered so
(01:11:40):
well, all these things. If you, if you allow these
people to continue, they are they're, they're, you know,
they're empowered by getting away with it.
And, you know, we're disappointed because I had
thought that we were going to see arrests happen much more
rapidly. I think comedy is an example.
I think his attorneys probably pre negotiated knowing how much
(01:12:01):
serious trouble he's in because what he's being charged for is
minor in comparison to the Russian collusion hoax and his
participation in trying to overthrow the US government.
I wouldn't be surprised if he isworking under A5K1 for
cooperation because of course these people have been very
confident because there haven't been any consequences in and and
(01:12:23):
of course very aggressive about the behavior behind the scenes.
We've seen it, but if you don't start going after them, and that
goes all the way through Congress, we've said it many
times that absolute immunity even in the judiciary is a
problem, right? God is the only one with
absolute immunity, and he doesn't have to ask for it.
When you start looking at thingslike absolute immunity,
qualified immunity and lifetime appointments, it goes right
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through the judiciary, those through our intelligence
organizations, people in the FBIthat are guilty of destroying
evidence. We heard about the burn bags.
I'm sure many of them that they found.
There's probably 10 times the amount of information that's
been burned up in cover ups and that includes every branch of
our government. I still don't see that
happening. I don't see those individuals.
(01:13:06):
Of course, The Dirty 51 + 8. Some of these things are really
low hanging fruit. Go ahead.
What were you going to say? I have a question.
Do you believe that burn bags because I stay like a it's a
like a inside job of people who in the FBI who believe that
justice need to be bigger than that was during that comedy time
and they don't I don't believe it.
(01:13:28):
I don't believe that those individuals had the burn bags
and they just stopped because normally the documents are
shredded first and then they're put into the burn bags.
I don't believe that somebody took the burn bags, put
documents in. I almost wonder if that wasn't
kind of a manipulation of the narrative.
So I'm not confident that it's true.
I'd have to hear it directly andI'd have to know it directly
(01:13:48):
from people that I trust. I'm, I'm, I'm unsure.
Here's my problem. I, I think that there's lots of,
for example, Letitia James, if you and I have committed
mortgage fraud, it wouldn't takemonths and months and months to
indict us. They would look at the
paperwork. They would say Igor lied about
his revenue. Hold on.
We know why they didn't. Do beat.
That's because the the US attorneys for those states
(01:14:12):
didn't want to do it. Now that they changed them up so
well, it's kind of like Adam. Schiff he's clearly he violated
again mortgage fraud. It's a low hanging fruit case.
And you can always the US government, when it comes to a
person like Igor, they would easily, they indict you and, and
then they tell you, you've got to take a plea or this is going
to happen to you. And you're, you're facing these,
(01:14:33):
these excessive years. And then here comes the
superseding indictment. Igor, if you don't do this, this
and this, which is extortion, bribery and coercion.
If you don't do this, we're going to supersede the
indictment. And instead of 10 years, you're
going to be looking at 100 yearsbecause that's how the charges
stack. It's a standard procedure.
Let's face it, any mathematicianwould tell you that it's
(01:14:54):
impossible for the US governmentto have a 98% conviction rate.
It wouldn't. It doesn't work.
It's and let's face it, are you telling me that the Department
of Justice is the only government department that works
perfectly? That they're so good at their
job that they get all these indictments?
No, it's because they cheat and they lie and they coerce and
they destroy exculpatory evidence and they do many other
(01:15:15):
things that I could go into details on.
My thing is, is that when you look at that situation and you
really understand the system. I questioned the burn bags.
It seemed very perfect timing because the narrative, everybody
was very angry at Pam Bondi. They were upset that the
indictments were coming. They need redirection.
I still questioned because I worked in operations years ago
(01:15:37):
that manipulated media very effectively.
Are you familiar with the term economic Jackal?
Yes. Of course.
OK, so I used to do. Overwatch for economic jackals
and at the end of the day, that manipulation of the banking
system and of course they use they use lots of different
systems to make that work. And that's just I.
(01:15:59):
Want to I want to .1 very important things here what is
what is emerging in this in thismindset, but you establishing
the way of manipulate the media and you start using this against
American citizens and you start using that for manipulate your
own government. So real intelligence is going
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into the window. So nobody care about real
intelligence on a battlefield and that foreign, foreign
territory they have manipulated,constructed picture what's
already sold through the media, through the politicians, through
the legislators and they making government start.
So that's exactly perfect situation, situation of wag the
(01:16:41):
dog because the intelligence community who's supposed to
serve the government now making the government serve the
intelligence community. This is why biggest why biggest
perpetrators sit in an intelligence community.
Why either comedy, Renan Plopperand others.
That's all intelligence has a I can mention only the Admiral
(01:17:05):
head of NSA who was brave enoughto go to Trump and reveal that
you aspire that your your wired up.
Your Trump Tower is wired, so that's a big responsibility as a
citizen of this country. Because if you see the coup, if
you see high treason, you need to raise your voice.
You need to stand against that or that will be unbelievable
(01:17:28):
consequences. Because we have great power.
We have a lot of power. We have a nuclear warheads, we
have biggest army in the world, we have a biggest military
budget and we have a biggest debt.
What actually only, and it's allmaking us very dangerous.
This is why I'm making this filmabout Iran.
It's not about the story for Iranians.
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This is a story for us to try tofix some of our mistakes, to
abolish, abolish the method. Or if you're doing the same
things again and again, it's like a sanction in Russia in 19
circles. So sanction in Russia again and
again and again. My friend Pearson Sharp just
come back from Russia and he's showing how sanction is work,
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perfect life, clean streets, nice settings.
Russia's amazing. It's.
Beautiful. They've done an incredible job.
I mean, you look at their subways as compared to us.
It's just that's also, that's also.
Impressed myself, Tucker Carlsonwhen he was in Russia in 2024
and he was also and we talked tohim to help him to understand
(01:18:28):
the Russian mentality and to understand Putin.
And this is everybody who see that on their own eyes, they
say, Oh my God, this is so different than really that we
perceive that we practically bring Russia to the Stone Age
with our like a continuous sanctions.
No, no, not even close. And why to use again, same
(01:18:49):
technique, same old and absolutestrategy of dominance against
Iran if we can just we respect today's sovereignty and the
nation and try to understand them and try to deal with them
because we're good on dealing, especially with the President
Trump. We're good at making deals, no
doubt. I think you're right.
(01:19:10):
Over the target and I'm sure you've been attacked for it just
as we have. Suppression attacks.
That's part of the MO, right? That's part of the modus
operandi. But listen, we're out of time
for today. But listen, we got to have you
back on. I'm sure we could dialogue with
you. I'm, I'm sure George has got
lots and lots of things he'd love to bring up because I can
see him over there. I can see his facial expression.
(01:19:31):
I want to make. I say we make a.
Documentary, a movie about, you know, all this money coming back
in the United States. Yeah.
Yeah, I, I any. Project you're working on Igar
you're always welcome to use ourplatform, any of your older
documentaries if you'd like to get them up on our documentary
channel on Rumble Happy to do that.
You can work with George on that.
Where can they go see the new documentary?
(01:19:52):
Where can they download it? How do they follow you?
This is your shameless plug. Go in all in.
Let's give you the screen and we'll let you tell everybody how
they they can follow you on social media and how they can
get involved and watch your films as they get released.
I'm on Twitter as a. Lopatanok, That's my name on
Twitter. I mostly spend my time on X, so
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all my films can be seen on Amazon Prime Video.
Or just type my name or type thename of the title around the
Great game and you can see it. Yeah, that's great.
We appreciate. Do you have a?
Do you have a website? You have your own?
You don't, no. No website so I.
Found you. I found your details on IMDb.
I've got an old IMDb profile up there.
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I mean? The stuff that ends up on the
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