White Coat Waste, Stop Taxpayer Funded Animal Experiments |EP634

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You guys know, as you've heard me many times, be very vocal.
I've always been an animal advocate.
You know, I grew up with lots ofpets when I was a kid.
And, you know, I was always rescuing animals.

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And my godfather in New York, heowned a pet store.
So that's the environment I grewup in.
And you know, you guys have seenme repost.
You've seen me engage with LauraLoomer.
She's a friend of mine and we'vetalked about how much we can't
stand what's going on, You know,animal testing and funding.
At this point, it's just draconian.

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It's unnecessary. I don't believe it's not.
I don't know if it was ever necessary, but I always feel
like it's one of those things that people did and, and just
because you could do it doesn't mean you should do it.
People like Anthony Fauci and others, what they've done to
these animals and horrendous foranybody out there that's
familiar with it, you've seen the pictures of the testing,

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you've heard the stories about the beagles vocal cords getting
cut, you know, the sand flies literally chewing their face
off. And there's lots of other
horrendous, horrendous animal testing.
I could go on and on. It doesn't take much a simple
search on Google or any other search platform Brave, you would
find it. And joining us today is a guy

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that's really been busting his ass.
He's he's been really doing the work that's necessary when when
you know, and I and I always think, you know, what really
makes a person is what they do when nobody's watching.
And Justin Goodman has been fighting for animal rights for a
very long time. He's the founder and president
of White Coast waste. You know, he's, he's been doing

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it for more than 20 years. He's LED a high profile winning
grass roots and lobbying campaigns to expose and the
wasteful and cruel taxpayer funded experiments on dogs,
cats, primates and other animals.
And his team at White Coast Waste was the very first to
expose Dr. Fauci's funding for gain of function at the Wuhan
lab. That of course, we all know now.

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Even even the agencies are admitting that it was a lab
leak. Probably intentional.
I don't think it was accidental.And, you know, and, and, and
he's done an amazing job of shining light on Fauci's Beagle
torture. I've said it very often, I think
that Fauci should have the same testing done in him.
I would stick his head in one ofthose boxes with the sand flies

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and allow them to go to town because I, I think there's one
thing I've always thought, I've always thought the people that
took advantage of animals were bullies.
And, and, and they did it because they could do it, not
because they should have done it.
And the, the, the, the way theseanimals have been treated in
these labs around the globe, it's just disgusting.

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So let's bring Justin in. I know this is a, it's really
something near and dear to his heart.
So let's get him in here. And there's no reason to leave
him backstage. Welcome to the big, big show,
Justin Goodman. How you doing, Sir?
Hey guys, thanks for having me. Great to be here.
Man, we appreciate you coming on.
You know, there's there's you guys have been in the news quite
a bit as of late and I think no,no small help.

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Laura Luma did a great job of shining some light on it and
she's got really direct access. And I think there's there's lots
of other people's that are animal advocates that people
don't know. Like Rodger Stone, he's a big
animal advocate. He's got two small dogs and he's
a big animal guy. So I know that he's also done
what he could behind the scenes to kind of influence that.
But I. Don't know if.

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You know, let me ask you this, Justin.
First of all, let's start off. I don't want to jump in too
fast. Let's start of how did you get
started? How did you decide to go down
this vertical? You know, were you always an
animal guy? Was your childhood?
Were you raised on a farm? You know what kind of triggered
all this? I'm from New York and, you know,
like a lot of other people, I grew up with an Infinity for
animals. I actually have a very vivid

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memory of being at the Queen Zoowhen I was a kid and meeting
this little doe and crying my eyes out when my family was
like, we got to go and I was like, had this connection with
this little deer. But my whole life I had a
connection to animals. We had a cat when I was a kid,
other pets, and I was never really an activist or anything

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like that until I got to college.
I was my wife and I got to the University of Connecticut and I
learned there was a monkey lab on campus and no one had known
about it. So I registered.
I started this little student group and taught myself how to
use the Freedom of Information Act, taught myself how to write
a press release, started investigating federal spending

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databases to see how this lab was operating, who was paying
for it. And it turned out that the US
government was shipping millionsof dollars to this laboratory to
drill holes in monkey's head, destroy the part of their brain
that controls eye movements withacid, and then implant coils in
their eyes and lock them. And these are strange chairs and
just make them watch TV screens and track targets on the screen

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for hours and hours at a time. And at the end of the project,
they killed these monkeys. And this was, I didn't go to
college right out of high school.
I did a bunch of other stuff. But I this was the early 2000s.
And I thought, this is the 21st century.
I can't believe this is still going on and that taxpayers are
being forced to pay for it. So we launched this campaign to

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expose and end it, expose all these violations of the law
that, of course, these government inspectors and
bureaucrats had ignored. And we shut this laboratory
down. And to this day, there hasn't
been. And I was just a student at this
point. And to this day, there's never
been another monkey laboratory at the University of
Connecticut. So I was, I was in, I was in
grad school and I was supposed to get a PhD.

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But I realized doing this that my heart was really an activism
for animals and not academia. So I left and basically for the
last 20 years, I've been workingon campaigns to find exposed and
defund taxpayer funded animal experiments.
I mean, I think a lot of people,you know, maybe their exposure
to animal testing issues is, youknow, see stuff on social media
about cosmetics testing cruelty free products.

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And that's great that people aredoing that.
But the truth is that the federal government, the US
government, is a single largest funder of animal testing, not
only in the country, but in the entire world. the US government
currently wastes about $20 billion a year, billion with AB
just on animal testing. Of course, you know, as you
mentioned, Anthony Faucher is kind of publicly Public Enemy #1

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when it comes to animal testing.He ran a division at the NIH for
40 years that funded more animaltesting than any other division
in the NIH. But he wasn't just a paper
pusher. He wasn't just some bureaucrat.
I mean, he certainly was that, but that wasn't it since the
1980s. Fauci himself has been infecting
chimpanzees trying to give them HIV and AIDS.

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Turns out they don't get sick from it.
And anything he did to create a vaccine was a failure.
And until he left the governmentjust a few years ago, he was
still personally involved in designing and conducting
experiments on monkeys to give them different viruses.
So, yeah, he's a, he's a really bad guy, certainly, You know, I
think he's probably responsible for more suffering of animals
and laboratories than any other single individual in history.

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And when you lay on top of that,of course, the what he funded in
Wuhan that killed 20 million people and cost trillions of
dollars, there's probably nobodyworse.
He's just, you know, the worst mad scientist in the history of
humanity. So that's what I've been
fighting since the, you know, myearly days of college.
And I joined forces with the guywho founded White Coat, Anthony
Bellotti, also from the tri-state area.

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He's from Jersey. And he worked at an animal
laboratory when he was in high school, thought he wants to be a
doctor. So he got an internship at a
hospital. Turns out they sent him into an
animal lab. And he was so horrified, buddy,
by what he saw. And he also has been on a
mission since then to get the government out of the animal
testing business. You know.
Lance, hold on. I have a great idea.

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I mean, because I'm, I'm 100% against using animals for this.
We should start using all these treasonous actors, you know,
because we have a lot of Dems that, you know, committed
treason, among other things thatshould be getting arrested soon.
We should use them for the testing.
I mean, why not, right? Leave the.
Animals alone. To you to switch things up.

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Yeah. I mean, we, yeah, go ahead,
Lance, Sorry. Well, you know, and a lot of
times people, you know, it's, it's difficult, right out of
sight, out of mind. But when I look through and I, I
did something, I just kind of randomly searched some of the
top 10 dumbest animal testing things that were listed.
I asked the AI to kind of do it.I asked Brock and I and I, when

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I, when I saw the list, I was actually shocked at how
incredible it is. And I always think that the
people that do this, you know that and you see it on you see
how intuitive animals are and you know that that this has got
to hurt and be so damaging to them.
You know it, it not only that they're, they're, they're killed
afterwards, but Can you imagine having your eyes strapped open

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and, and, and what the having your brain attacked with acid?
I'm sure that they yeah, a lot of this happens when they're not
properly sedated. I I can't even imagine, but I
started looking. Up some of the worst.
Drug testing. So they talk about spiders being
injected with drugs in 194895. Baby jellyfish in space in 1991.
Transparent frogs for Cancer Research in 2007.

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Monkey head transplants 1970s 2018.
Human ear on a mouse 1997 Chimpanzees raised as humans
1931 Monkeys given hallucinogens2012 alligators with drilled
skulls. And that's recent.

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They drilled holes in their skulls for electrodes attached
to study brain activity. Dog's teeth removed and gums
cut. Sweden.
That's a recent test. Octopus is given MDMA recent I
mean. I'm, you know, and I'm, I'm
curious, you know, the nature ofthese tests and when I just look
at that list seems so idiotic. And I know there's much worse

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than this. What's some of the worst?
Stuff just for the audience. Not that I'm trying to make
people cringe, but what's some of the worst stuff you've
discovered as far as testing that when you got to the root of
it, you thought, what the hell? What kind of a moron thinks this
is a test that matters? Because I feel like a lot of
times this is done just to secure funding.
They create some test that has some random justification that

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really doesn't isn't going to help humanity.
And at the end of the day, they take the funding and I'm sure it
gets funneled into lots of. Different things that we have no
idea. Yeah, you're absolutely.
You're right. Animal testing is bad science,
but it's big business and that'swhy it continues.
And it's big businesses that subsidized by federal tax
dollars because the private sector would never in 1000 years
pay for the type of stupid crap that the government is paying

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for. And when you look at kind of the
rate there's 100 million animalsin laboratories just in the
United States, 100 million. And when you look at the types
of experiments they're being used for, certainly they range
from the silly to the sadistic and everything in between.
So you have examples and studieswe found that were funded by the
National Science Foundation where they put fish on a
treadmill or shrimp on a treadmill.

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So obviously on the stupid side of things.
But then you have, you know thatseems like.
Important work. I've always wondered if a shrimp
could work a treadmill or maybe an elliptical that's one of one
of the big. Questions in my head, you know,
when are shrimp going to be ableto move from the treadmill to
the elliptical and maybe start to work some free weights so
they can bulk up? Go ahead.

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Yeah, I mean, no, you know, the only people benefiting from this
stuff or the people lining theirpockets with billions of our tax
dollars, that's not giving a return on investment to
taxpayers, improving public health.
You know, the NIH budget was double 25 years ago.
People are not living longer andchronic, you know, chronic
disease is worse than this country.
But so we have those stupid examples, animals on a treadmill

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and basically every animal who is who is in Noah's Ark has been
put on the treadmill by some kind of taxpayer funded
laboratory still going on to this day.
You know, a more kind of egregious, horrendous version of
that is we exposed an experimenta few years ago where they were
buying Beagle puppies from thesecommercial puppy mills that
breed puppies just for animal testing.
They were injecting latex into their arteries to give them

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heart attacks and then forcing them to run on treadmills and,
and variations of that experiment are still going on
today and being funded by the government.
And you don't have to, you know,you mentioned that.
You can benefit humanity though.Explain to me that you falsify a
heart attack and then you torture the animal by putting.
How can humanity be? And that's my thing.

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I guess if I could feel real justification for any kind of
improvement, but to me I don't know how that fixes a human
being from having a heart attack.
You synthesize the event. You know, and let's face it, Big
pharma and, you know, general medicine, the policy isn't, you
know, to, to treat and and fix the disease.

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They just want to figure out a Band-Aid for the symptoms
because healthy people don't make money.
So perpetuating the cycle of sickness is really what it's all
about. That's where the money is,
right? We, we've seen it.
We've seen the way they overcharge us for services.
You know, Donald Trump is just, he's just basically scraping the
the very top of the iceberg whenhe's trying to talk about how

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we're getting gouged on pharmaceutical prices versus
other parts of the world. But we're getting gouged.
I mean, I see the hospital bills.
We've had people come on the show and talk about the impact
of how they've gotten a bill that was just so excessive for
minor services. And because it wasn't covered,
they ended up, you know, in bankruptcy because they got
hundreds of thousands of dollarsin charges.

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I mean, three block ambulance bills that were were were
$25,000 for three blocks of ambulance carries.
So, but go ahead, Justin. No, I mean, you're absolutely
right. The incentives are very
perverse. There's actually no incentive to
solve the problem because the second you solve the problem,
the money goes away. So the incentive is to keep the
experiment going, to actually never find a cure, and to keep

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saying, well, we just need more money.
If you just give us five more million this year, five more
million, and then all the suddenyou have projects literally that
are going on for 4550 years, continuously funded with tax
dollars that have never done a single thing to improve human
health. There's a great example of that
inside the National Institutes of Health headquarters that we
exposed through our Freedom of Information Act lawsuit a few

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years ago. We got videos of monkeys.
This is an ongoing experiment, been going on for nearly half a
century with they destroy the part of the brain that controls
fear. And these monkeys, they lock
them in a tiny cage. They can barely turn around and
chain them up by the neck. And then they open the they open
a, a screen in front of the cageand they startle the monkeys

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with fake snakes and fake toy spiders.
This is this is all videotaped. And they are judging the
reaction of the monkeys who've had the fear part of their brain
damaged, who are horribly startled and terrorized and
terrified. And they're cowering in the back
of their cages trying to escape what they believe is a threat.
Like, you know, like humans, they're innately scared of

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spiders and snakes. So they just do this and they
videotape it for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours.
And we have even have videos with the the scientists are
laughing while they're doing. This here's my question.
What could possibly when, when, when I hear about such a
horrendous experimentation like that, what, what's the sole
benefit? Well, how could the government
have that proposal? Here's what we're going to do.

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We're going to lock these monkeyin the cage.
We're going to damage their brains.
We're going to take out the fearpart, and then we're going to
give them nothing but frightening images.
And here's what we're going to learn from that.
What, what's the take away on that?
Just that we're a bunch of miserable rotten, you know,
human beings that have the ability to terrorize a monkey.
I mean, what, what are they thinking that they could maybe

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take a, a, a soldier and remove his ability to have fear and
they think he's going to become a more effective.
So I mean, what's the selling point?
How do they pitch that? Because I understand that you
guys have identified that we're spending over 20 billion
annually. Is that correct?
Is that number accurate? 20 billion.
Billion on this bullshit. I think it's wasteful and cruel
and ineffective. I mean, to be honest with you,

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I'm, I'm not, I'm not the right guy.
I, I struggle with dark thoughtsa lot because my thing is, you
know, I normally feel like a lotof things could be fixed with an
industrial wood chipper when it comes to these individuals.
And that's the difficulty I havebecause I've never liked
bullies. I was always a relatively tough
kid in New York. And I, I started boxing.
I did Silver Gloves and Golden Gloves.
I was a pretty tough, you know, SLB when I was little.

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And I would often, you know, watch people pick on somebody
and I would step into it to kindof resolve it very quickly.
And because I was pretty highly skilled at an early age, I can
usually effectively take a bullyout of action relatively quickly
as compared to them picking on somebody.
What? What?
How do you pitch that to somebody that you're going to
torture monkeys and do this to them?

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What's the upside for this? How do they get the money?
It's all fear mongering. It's all fear mongering and
propaganda where the animal experimenters say, OK, we have a
human health issue, whatever it is.
You know, COVID was a great example of how any public health
crisis, any bio defense problem that the the world or the
government or the country is facing becomes a monkey grab and

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a money grab where they say, oh,well, we're you know, there's
anthrax. This is how Anthony Fauci got
his power back in 2001. And there was those anthrax
attacks in O one that turned outto be an inside job from
somebody who works in the government.
And he and others use and the Defense Department use that as
an excuse to open up billions and billions of new funding for

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quote, UN quote, bio defense programs, which are the type of
programs that created, funded the research that created the
Covic virus. So it's, you know, it's it's
this insidious, it's, you know, people use this term and it's,
you know, it's kind of hacking at this point.
But there is this deep state element of people who have built
these industries inside the government and do everything

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they can to rake in more money every year by scaring the public
into thinking we need these programs or their and their life
depends on it. When really it's not doing
anything except enriching the individuals who are running
these programs and becomes like a self.
You know, the term in Washington, the self licking ice
cream cone. And that's a perfect example of
it is the government creates thevirus.
The virus gets out and then the government and far and its

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friends and farmer get rich by creating the the the quote UN
quote, treatment or cure for thevirus.
And that goes on forever. So COVID is a great example of
that and no one's held accountable as the problem.
And that's, you know, to your point about the wood shipper, I
mean, these programs to end up, we should absolutely end up in
the wood shipper. You know, Donald Trump proposed
a 40% cut to the NI HS $48 billion budget specifically

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because of what we exposed in Wuhan that gain a function
disaster. But instead of cutting the
funding, the Senate Republicans just gave NIHA raise refused to
cut its budget. And the current NIH leadership
is made-up of people Fauci's former colleagues, Obama and
Biden appointees, and people whodon't share the agenda.

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Why don't they? I don't understand how come
they're not getting fired and stuff?
Why are they still around? Well, This is why we've been
working closely with Laura Loomer because obviously she's
been able to get a lot of folks fired across the government who
are interfering with progress. And we're going to start doing
that at the NIH because there are people who, again, they're
trying to protect these programs.
I mean, literally a gain of function mad scientist who

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resurrected the Spanish flu by working with someone to dig up a
dead body and harvest the virus from it, who worked for Fauci
for nearly 16 years, got promoted and took the Jay
Bhattachary, the NIH director under Trump gave this guy
Fauci's job. This guy was involved in the
COVID cover up since early 2020,published papers saying lably

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was a conspiracy theory, saying that this came out of nature.
It was not created in the laboratory.
He was involved in that crazy dangerous research and now he
got a promotion because of it. That's the type of perverse
incentives that the government gives people is be a lunatic and
a liar and we're going to rewardyou handsomely.
And that's what's been happeningat NIH.
Meanwhile, it did depend department Pete Hedgeseth has

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been looking at our investigations and essentially
overnight cutting these programs.
So. You know, that's the thing that
I think's incredible that, you know, you guys, again, you guys,
everybody that watches this show, anybody that's new to the
show today, First of all, thanksfor joining us.
You know, we go after both sidesof that.
You heard him use the R word, right?
You heard him tell you that it'sthe Republicans that just stop
this funding from getting cut, and you have to ask yourself

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why. You know, I often believe it's
because of the dark money, the foreign money, the lobbyists,
the Super PACs, the NGOs, the foundations that are funding
people's elections. Of course, a lot of wealthy
individuals get involved. You've seen it.
You've seen the backwards funneling that's been partially
exposed by Elon Musk, USAID and others.

(26:07):
But you know, it's really simple.
If NINIH is doing stuff we don'twant him to, then why don't we
just cancel NIH? You know, we always talk about
Miley on this show. It's very simple.
He just, you know, if Wuego, if Wuego, he just started cutting
stuff because they didn't have the money to do it.
We're $37 trillion in debt and the last fucking thing I want to
pay. For.
Is to see a bunch of animals gettortured because when I get to

(26:28):
the root of these if and this iswhen, you know, on this show,
Justin, a lot of times we talk about common sense.
We say forget political affiliation, forget the
individual that's talking to you.
Just reach inside yourself and that's just common sense.
Does this make sense to you thatthat when you look at the actual
testing and you say, well, how does this 10 testing benefit

(26:50):
humanity or the animals themselves?
Let's say, you know, there's a new, new virus that supposedly
has been attacking rabbits in Colorado.
They're growing some kind of horns or whatever.
They've been choking around saying they're jackalopes.
But it's it looks pretty rough and I'm sure it's really painful
for the animals. If somebody was doing testing to
try to fix that, then I would kind of get it.
Or if we were trying to fix mad cow disease, or if we thought

(27:13):
there was a real link between cancer spreading through your
bones and maybe if that testing was going to.
When I look at these tests, 95% of the time for the life of me,
I can't figure out what the fuckthey're trying to prove, Justin.
And that's the part that I'm baffled about, that how the
people in power, the Republicansand Democrats or anybody else
that's in charge of these budgets, how do they justify

(27:35):
this crap? Because, and this to me, this is
what I think is difficult. The American public maybe just
let's go because they don't understand really what's going
on. Am I right about that or is it
just me? No, you're 100% correct that
this gets the, you know, falls under the the umbrella of, you
know, public health research andpeople think it's as necessary

(27:55):
evil or that's what they've beentold by people like Doctor
Fauci. But it's not necessary.
It's just evil and it's wasteful.
You know, you mentioned 95% of this, you know, you off the cuff
kind of said 95% of this crap seems insane.
It is. And that's actually the same
statistics that the NIH gives out for how much of this stuff
fails when it gets to people. So again, the return on
investment for for for taxpayers, for Americans is

(28:19):
horrendous. And to your point about who is
benefiting from this, why SenateDemocrats, Republicans, everyone
alike is kind of on the same page with keeping the the spigot
on is because says look who's getting money, colleges and
universities that are spread outin States and congressional
districts across the country whoare giving donations to these
members of Congress. A lot of this money from the

(28:41):
NIH, especially for dog testing,is going directly to
pharmaceutical companies to develop, to do live, you know,
to do testing on dogs to avoid liability and to bring in new
investors. And they even say in their
applications to the NIH give us millions of dollars to do dog
testing and other animal testingfor our new drugs so we can go

(29:02):
out and get investors to invest in our drug.
Why the hell are taxpayers footing the bill for
pharmaceutical R&D that's going to generate billions of dollars
for private companies and millionaires?
And we're never going to see most of those drugs are going to
fail, and we're never going to see a penny of that money.
So, yeah, you're absolutely right.
You have to look at where this money is going.
That's our whole organization isbuilt around the idea of

(29:22):
following the money. And that's why we're constantly
suing the government to see who's getting these contracts,
who's who's benefiting from them.
And it's certainly not the American taxpayer.
It's private companies. It's part of pharmaceutical
companies, it's mad scientists, it's professors, and it's
colleges and universities acrossthis country that are literally
raking in that billion and billions of dollars every year.

(29:44):
And even if colleges and universities, you know, one of
the reasons they fight so hard for this money and oppose our
efforts to end animal testing isbecause they get, they have an
administrative slush fund that Trump has tried to attack, thank
God. But they're getting in some
cases, 100% on top of the grant money.
They get a matching 75 or 80 or 100% of money just for
administrative costs, so to keeptheir lights on, to keep bills

(30:07):
running for salaries and. For nice salary raises,
probably, you know, you know, vehicle leases, private jets,
limousine service, you know we saw that with we saw that with,
you know many of the. Political organizations you know
$100,000 for the you know the people running the RNC it for

(30:29):
floral yearly you. Know millions of dollars in
private jet services, you know, that's what happens.
They get they get this money andit comes so easily.
They get the big grant and then they get matching funds and they
probably don't even know what todo with all the money because
they never counted on getting that much.
But you know, you know, it's funny that the mission seems so
flawed out of the gate, which isincredible to me.

(30:51):
And that's the problem, right? We have, we have and I always
say this probably if we if we went through all their
communication devices and we went through all their finances.
And we drug tested them. I'd be surprised if we have 10
or 15 honest men and women in Congress.
I'd be shocked, right? The result would probably be
that we would find the majority of them are criminals and they

(31:12):
are up to no good. Their intent isn't good.
You know, even just the people that are taking funding from
George Soros. You know, I've looked at the,
the amount of things he financesand, you know, to me, he's an
international terrorist. I would put him on the list.
They're fortunate that I'm not the president of the United
States. The swiftness in which I would
stop NIHI would just close it overnight.

(31:32):
I, you know, I, I see so much ofthis stuff when it comes to the
FDA and the NIH. So many bad policies and bad.
There's George before I know we're probably heading towards
a. Break we are.
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No, it's a beautiful dog. Look at a boxer, right?
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Bailey, she's adorable.
She is adorable. We're going to take a short

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the stupidity of this. So for everybody at home, I know
you guys would be concerned in case your dogs have a drug

(39:03):
problem, in case you're using cocaine or methamphetamine, the
government is actively working on a program to maybe get them
the help they. Need.
Maybe they can get. Into a three-step program.
Of course I'm being a smart ass.Justin was just telling me I'm
going to have them tell them yourself, but they are still.
Injecting dogs with methamphetamine and cocaine.
Now my question is why the fuck are we doing that?

(39:25):
That just that is beyond ridiculous.
Justin, can you explain to the audience where is the the the
mites? And I guess you probably read
the paperwork on the program. What do they expect to learn
from injecting dogs with cocaineand methamphetamine?
Yeah, so they're doing lots of recreational drug experiments on
animals, from primates to dogs to rabbits to hamsters to all

(39:49):
kinds of animals. But the National Institutes of
Health, and we've been working with Senator Rand Paul that cut
the funding for this program fora few years, but it was actually
recently renewed, unfortunately,under the Trump NIH.
Is there pharmaceutical companies out there?
They're trying to develop drugs,And this is, you know, a
laudable goal to develop drugs to help people get off, you

(40:11):
know, if they're a cocaine addict or meth addict, help them
get off those drugs. And the way they're testing them
is they're injecting beagles. With methamphetamine and cocaine
and then injecting them with these experimental drugs to see
if when those drugs interact, they sicken or kill these
puppies, these little Beagle puppies.

(40:31):
Now, I'm pretty sure there's nota shortage of cokeheads and
speed freaks out there that be willing to volunteer for the
trial that they would get paid for and actually give us some
results that would be helpful topeople.
But for, you know, these companies say that, well, for
liability reasons, we want to shoot this, shoot these drugs

(40:52):
into dogs 1st and see what happens, even though it's
completely irrelevant to what's going to happen to people.
And that's a project that has continually got renewed.
I think it's gotten close to $5 million already from the NIH.
And those beagles, of course, were killed at the end of the
experiments. And that's, you know, that's the
tip of the iceberg when it comesto this stuff.
The NIH just there's lots of dog, you know, all these, not

(41:13):
only are they funding this stuff, again, the pharma
companies, but colleges and universities across the country
are doing similar types of experiments on dogs, cats,
monkeys, rabbits and other animals.
Hold on, cocaine, methamphetamine pretty easily.
All you got to do is go to former or prior whatever, or
people in active addiction are doing cocaine, meth.

(41:35):
They'll tell you they're going to.
It does soup them up to get to have sex and stuff.
So we didn't even need animals for that to know that the
answer's right there. I think it's just something for
people to have jobs and get waste money and funnel money.
That's what I think it was all about.
I think it's the heart of it. I think there's a lot.
Of money laundering involved butif you wanted to solve the

(41:56):
methamphetamine and cocaine issue it's very simple shut off
all economic. Travel coming in from South, all
economic, you know, service coming in from the border, the
northern and southern borders. Don't let anything come in for a
while and then drone strike within those countries.
The cartels, if you really. Want to solve this?
There's a way to do it. If you got this kind of money
where you've got billions to spend, they wouldn't give Donald

(42:17):
Trump 5 or $7 billion to. Build a wall.
They could beef up security. They could cut off the conduit
if they continue the pressure onChina.
That's not the only way they getprecursor chemicals at the end
of the day. I don't, you know, when I think
about the animals aren't voluntarily saying, yeah, shoot
me up with some cocaine and methamphetamine.
And like you said, there are plenty of people on the street
damn near killing themselves every single day, if not killing

(42:40):
themselves car, fentanyl, other drugs.
And there's a whole bunch of newones that are out now.
You know, to me, I don't see howthis is going to help.
I don't see how it changes things because I don't think
because you can prove that a drug works in a puppy, which is,
you know, if they were doing this to primates and not that I
agree with that either, at leastthat would be closer to our
evolutionary chain. I don't see how a dog has the

(43:02):
same DNA or mRNA or anything else it's got that's similar to
human being. It doesn't make any sense.
But this to me often seems like make.
I would guess that the tremendous amount of this money
gets funneled off and, you know,money laundered is my guest.
How many times have you identified money that was
supposed to be going into one program and then found out that

(43:23):
the money was being funnelled into something completely
different or maybe even funnelled into the pockets of
the people that were involved inthese operations?
And if you could put a number onit, Justin, this is a tough, I'm
putting you in a box here, so answer what you can.
How many times would you say if a, if, if 10 billion was given
out, how many actually goes intothe testing that was applied to

(43:44):
and doesn't go into, you know, allegedly administrative or
other ways or just directly justflat out stolen?
What do you think the percentageof actually goes down to the
actual testing? Out of, I think the NIH may
have, the government may have estimated earlier this year that
at least 10% of the money that the NIH was giving out for

(44:05):
research was going into administrative funds.
So 4 billion out of something like 48 billion.
But the money is the dollar amount is much higher than that.
When it comes to waste #1 the programs themselves are wasteful
even if the money is being spentthe way it's supposed to be.
But I'll give you a great example of money being misspent.
You know, I mentioned Fauci is not just a bureaucrat, he's a
monkey abuser. And he was until he, the day he

(44:25):
left on December 30, 1st, 2022 from the NIH, but he had funding
from the NIH to do SIV experiments on monkey on female
monkeys. SIV is the monkey version of
HIV. Monkeys don't get HIV.
So they have this monkey versionof SIV of HIV.
They give to the monkeys and they expose them in lots of
horrible ways. But it turns out that the

(44:47):
monkeys, the monkey HIV experimentation money that Fauci
was receiving once COVID hit wasall the sudden Fauci and his
colleagues was redirecting it toCOVID research.
All the sudden they were doing COVID infection experiments on
animals. They were no longer doing what
the money was spent was intendedfor.
All the sudden they're doing COVID experiments with the same

(45:08):
money, which was not what it wasearmarked for.
And of course we know, you know,when we talk about, you know,
these double dipping programs thought she got he got paid
well, obviously he was the single largest.
He was the single highest paid employee in the federal
government. So he's getting a huge salary.
He's getting millions and millions of dollars a year to do
these crazy monkey experiments. He's getting, he's giving out

(45:31):
money to do the gain of functionresearch that created the virus.
And then he's raking in even more money.
And he and his colleagues are, you know, raking in even more
money to do the, the COVID experimentation after the virus
breaks out. So the yeah, the, the system is
so corrupt and the, and the incentives are so perverse.
And unfortunately, you know, he got pardoned last minute,

(45:52):
pardoned by Joe Biden. Now, it turns out that that
pardon was probably signed with an auto pen.
And there are legitimate questions about whether that
pardon was legitimate and whether it's going to hold up.
The senator. Rand Paul is already asking for
charges to be brought against Fauci for the gain of function
research. And there's two very clear
charges that Fauci can be indicted for if Pam Bondi

(46:18):
decides to do it. And there are things that have
come out of our investigation. One is that he repeatedly lied
to Congress, underoath both the House and the Senate about
funding gain of function in Wuhan.
He denied it, denied it, denied it to Rand Paul and to the House
Subcommittee on Coronavirus research on coronavirus
pandemic. So we never funded gain of

(46:40):
function in Wuhan. We have the receipts.
We have literal emails where theNIH and the people he funded to
do the research are saying thankyou for lifting out the gain of
function pause. So we continue.
We can continue doing the gain of function experiments and
Wuhan. We have emails where they say
that. And also the NIH is after fact
she left, admitted that they funded gain of function at

(47:01):
Wuhan. So he repeatedly lied to
Congress. That's perjury.
That's up to five years in prison and a hefty fine.
The second thing is that he was using his personal e-mail for
NIH business to evade FOIA and open records.
And we have an e-mail when the Washington Post was running hit
pieces against white coat waste for exposing Fauci's Beagle
testing. He, Fauci was working hand in

(47:23):
love with them to put out this information to discredit us and
to defend him. And we have emails that he
exchanged with the Washington Post reporter where he says,
e-mail me at my Gmail. I'm not going to talk about this
on my NIH e-mail. And that again, there, there
could be an obstruction charge there.
It's illegal to that's a federalrecords charge there.

(47:45):
So he's looking at he could be in prison for up to 20 years and
face millions of dollars of fines.
He's got a presidential pardon, though.
But if the pardon was invalidated by Pam Bondi because
it was signed with an auto pen, If Biden didn't actually intend
to give him that pardon? If there's not evidence.
He did nothing, was in jail. No, nothing was invalidated yet.

(48:06):
No, that's correct. Yeah.
He's saying if that was to happen, if.
It was. You know, that's a big yeah,
because we got a lot of, we got a lot of auto pen part things,
pardons that should be reversed,but.
You know, but George, what's your feeling on this?
We haven't seen nothing. Yet that these pre emptive
blanket pardons that allegedly cover every single crime that

(48:27):
aren't specific. They aren't saying you're
getting a pardon related to COVID, but you're not getting a
pardon. For any of the rest of this.
My issue is, is that, you know, Fauci's become fabulously
wealthy off of this. You know, he's got a high level
net worth. For the longest time he had
Secret Service protection. I still question the legality of

(48:48):
Blanket, You know, everything you ever did in your life,
immunity, pardons. I don't understand the legality
of that. How you get a pardon pre
emptively when you haven't been charged #1 and #2 how it
allegedly covers every single crime you've ever committed in
your entire lifetime. Explain to me how that's even
possible, George, Because I can't.

(49:08):
When I look at the presidential parties of presidential immunity
and I look at some of those things.
And again, I'm not an expert in those areas.
There's other things I know about this particular thing.
I'm not an expert. But my point is, how does that
work? Hey, by the way, Justin, it
doesn't matter if you committed a crime when you're 10 or now,
I'm giving you a full blanket immunity.
I mean, give me one of those andI'll just go on a crime.
Wave the only. One that got blank.

(49:28):
Only one who got a blanket pardon.
I thought she did. Fauci got 1 going back to 2014.
And what's interesting is Fauci started working in the
government or he he started his role as the head of NYAD in 20
in 1984. But the pardon didn't go back to
1984. The pardon went back to 2014.
And you know what happened in 2014?
That's when he first started theresearch in Wuhan.

(49:51):
Well, so. The specific part in coincides
with that year just and there's many other things that Fauci did
wrong over the over time, but but it was not going to
coincidence at that the period that it covered.
So we need to subpoena Fauci's bank records and see who he gave
a donation to or wired money to,and that will probably lead you

(50:11):
to who he had to pay to get thatparted.
Yeah. Because a lot of those partners.
They were. They were charging for those
pardons. I mean, so I don't know what's I
don't know. What's going on for about 15
minutes? Let me head to Home Depot. 1st
and I can probably get you all the answers you want out of
Anthony. Why don't you go Home Depot?

(50:31):
Well. I'm just going to pick up a few
items I might need to convince him that it's probably best.
You don't have them already, Yeah.
I might have some. I got them already anyway all
right, but. Let's talk about, but hold on, I
want to give the audience. Before we jump, no, no, hold on.
So go ahead. I put that up because someone
was asking if they could donate.So I went and I showed them
where to donate Button is so topright corner white button.

(50:54):
Everybody question is, will anything be done about these
pardons? I mean, we all know is autopen.
How, how much, how much long is it going to take?
How many investigations are or Lance?
Are they just going to do 1 big swooping investigation and
arrest? And that's why they're
federalizing. They're deputizing the National

(51:16):
Guard in DC right now. Maybe.
Could because of your theory. There are some discussions out
there that this is going to be. Kind of a big sweep up that the
reason the National Guard is notonly because of the crime wave
in DC, but they've got some other things on the table.
Justin, I want to make it clear,I want to go back to something
just for a minute. I know that you've the the
cruelty in these experiments. You know, as graphic as they

(51:39):
are. I'd like you to just go through
maybe a couple of them. Very quickly for the audience,
because I want them to understand that this is, we're
not just talking about they go in there and they shave the the
animal on one spot. I mean, they're mutilating
kittens, they're poisoning thesebeagles or sticking electrodes
inside of cats. Can you just give the audience a
little bit of the graphic details of maybe one or two or

(51:59):
three of these experiments? Because they have to, I think,
to make the connection, to realize how important it is to
help somebody like your organization and to pick up the
phone. They have to understand those
same pets they've got in their homes.
They're taking someone out. You know what?
They're not pets. Of course, they're being raised
for this, but they're torturing these animals.
And I think the people need to really connect with that to

(52:21):
understand how important this is.
Yeah, thanks, Lance. And yeah, the dogs and the cats
who are being tortured in laboratories obviously are no
different than the ones who are sharing people's homes.
And actually, there's massive commercial puppy and kitten
mills that breed 10s of thousands of dogs and kittens
every year. They're born to die.
There's they breed them specifically to sell them to

(52:43):
laboratories to be killed. And some of these animals are
being tortured from their first week of life and experiments.
Not only are these commercial puppy and kitten mills, but some
of these government laboratory, these government funded
laboratories, some of them intentionally are with our tax
dollars, are breeding kittens tobe crippled, dogs to suffer from
genetic disorders where they bleed out and they can't even

(53:04):
stand up. There's this massive operation
across the United States to breed sick and deformed animals
specifically to experiment on that's being funded with 10s of
millions of tax dollars. But two projects we recently
ended just to kind of talk aboutwhat these, what this looks like
is the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hedgeseth working with us,

(53:24):
Elon Musk, Laura Loomer. We did an investigation of a
laboratory at the University of Pittsburgh that was buying
kittens and shoving marbles up their asses and then
electroshocking them to make them poop the marbles out in
Constipation and erectile. Who was doing this?
Experiments The Department of Defense was paying for this to

(53:47):
happen at. The how?
How would we take some fucking bowling balls, shove them up
their asses and and do that. See if they can with Electro.
See if they can fucking shoot them out.
The nature of that, right, what exactly could potentially what's
the learning curve on that and what is that going to do for
anybody? I just, you know, and to me, a
person that's able to do that. Right.
I, I, I would never be capable of doing that.

(54:09):
It would be different maybe if Iwas dealing with a member of
Congress that I realized was, you know, an enemy of the
people. And really, I mean that, you
know, the person that can do that is a.
Sociopath that the person that can actually victimize an animal
and do this on a daily basis. That person, in my opinion, is
dangerous. They can cross over the line in

(54:29):
a manner they're dangerous for society because you know, when I
travelled and I and I saw some of the things first hand in
foreign countries of how people behave, often somebody that was
cruel to an animal was just as, you know, even more cruel to a
human being. The the thing was, once they
crossed that line, they were pretty much capable of doing
anything. And I think this person, they
can say it's in the name of science.

(54:51):
But it's all unnecessary, and I know this, and I want to make
this clear to the audience. Some people might say, well,
they're doing important testing.Somebody might be trying to
justify this in their head. You have to think about quantum
computing at this point. You have to think about AI.
And I want you to talk about this, Justin, because I think
this matters. There are other ways to do this.
There's advances in non human alternatives, white coast

(55:12):
weights. There are technologies like, you
know, Organon a chip, computational modeling, in vitro
methods that provide a much superior result to animal
testing. Now, first of all, we have to
get to the common sense. I don't think we need to shove
marbles up kittens asses or giveMDMA to octopuses.
I don't think that's necessary. We have to get down to the maybe

(55:32):
the 10 or 20% of these tests andit might be common sense and
then use a computational model, use computer testing, quantum
computing and AI. That is far superior to animal
testing because at this point, even at the state we are right
now, and everybody sees this, AIhas gone to a a point where the
truth of the matter is you couldprobably plug a disease in of

(55:53):
your own and get better answers than maybe 85 or 90% of the
doctors out there because it's able to scrape data from across
the entire globe. And we're probably only 12
months away from giving definitive answers.
Now. Does big pharma want that?
No. Does the medical industry want
that? No.
They'll probably be put out of business in a lot of ways.
If anybody this is common sense,can you tell us about these

(56:14):
advances and non animal alternatives?
Yeah. So right now the problem is
there's a lot of great technology out there.
There's just no incentive to useit because the government is
happily willing to waste $20 billion a year on animal
testing. So if you've only known animal
testing, only done animal testing, and built your career
on animal testing, why stop? You're not being forced to, you
know, so our model is cut the money, stop the money, stop the

(56:37):
madness is obviously our motto. But what that means in real life
is cut the funding. If the private sector wants to
pick up the the tab of pharmaceutical companies or Bill
Gates or someone wants to pay for this, let them go ahead.
They're going to be much more choosy about what they put their
money into. And taxpayers won't be forced to
foot the bill for these things that have a horrible return on
investment. So, yeah, there are great

(56:57):
technologies out there. RFK has been talking about them.
There's things where you know you can.
It typically takes many months or years to screen how a
chemical or drug is going to impact the human.
But with things like AI and computational modeling, you can
screen thousands and thousands of drugs very, very quickly in a
fraction of the time it takes todo with animal tests and way

(57:18):
more accurately against human, human biology.
So, yeah, it's, you know, this cutting animal testing.
It's, you know, it's about saving tax dollars for us.
It's about saving animals lives.But ultimately it's going to
save human lives. It's going to improve human
health. So it's really a win win for
everybody. But we're not, you know, you
know, we're there. There are organizations out
there that are saying cut, you know, ban all animal testing

(57:40):
across the board. And great, that wouldn't that be
nice? But right now, the government is
Public Enemy #1 the single largest funder.
And we would change the face of this problem as we knew know it,
because their government got outof the animal testing business
and let the private sector deal with it.
Because again, you know, pharmaceutical companies are not
going to pay to put fish on treadmills or shrimp on
treadmills or the other nonsensethat the government is paying

(58:02):
for. They're going to be way more
particular. And they also have to be
answered there. They also are answerable to
shareholders, to the public. And the government is not.
You can't boycott the governmentunless you don't pay your taxes.
So we're being forced to pay forsomething we don't want, we
don't like, and we don't need. And that's what that's the model
we're trying to change to createsome more accountability because

(58:23):
you can boycott cruelty free cosmetics all day long.
The truth is animal testing isn't really happening for that
purpose anymore. It's this type of lab
experimentation you and I are talking about now that is
happening at colleges and universities under the cloak of
secrecy. You know, these these agencies
are refusing to turn over documents.
We have no idea how our money isreally being spent.

(58:44):
So, you know, sunlight is the best.
It's effective. Show us what we're paying for
and let us hold the government account for wasting our money.
So there's better technology outthere.
There's a lot of waste, fraud and abuse happening.
People like Anthony Fauci's fingerprint.
Fauci's fingerprints are still all over the NIH.
He's been gone for three years. But billions of dollars of
programs that he personally set into motion are still there.

(59:05):
His colleagues are still workingthere.
And we haven't cleaned that messup yet.
So until we end that legacy at the NIH of waste, fraud, abuse,
cruelty, the problem's not goingto get better.
And that's why we're frustrated right now.
The Defense Department, the Department of Veterans Affairs,
the EPA, all doing a great job. Lee Zeldin at the EPA, Pete
Hedgeseth, John Phelan, Secretary of the Navy, Brooke

(59:28):
Rollins at the at the USDA, DougCollins at the Department of
Veterans Affairs have all made great decisions to cut animal
testing virtually overnight, cutting programs that we
exposed. Meanwhile, with the NIH, they're
renewing programs set up, set into motion under Fauci, and
they're starting up brand new funding, millions and millions
of it every single week for new experiments on dogs, cats,

(59:49):
primates, other animals, Money going to pharma, money going to
colleges and universities. This is not what Trump wants.
He made it very clear cut 40% offunding at the NIH.
He wants to get rid of these programs because of what happens
in Wuhan. He knows how bad the problem is.
But there are these holdovers from previous administrations
who don't have the same vision for what the agency should be.

(01:00:12):
And we're, you know, we're disappointed.
And NIH Director Jay Bhattacharyya right now because
he's been letting the spending, you know, keep, keep going.
And that problem's actually gotten worse on his watch.
Why do? You think he's continuing to let
it go when he's heard from Trump, the policy?
Do you think as he's a holdover,do you think he's getting
kickbacks? What's your what's the
reasoning? Why is he continuing to allow

(01:00:32):
going? And why do you think the
Republicans voted against cutting the NIH budget is
because they're benefiting from,you know, payments or dark money
or money that's getting funneledin one way.
I mean, just spell it out like it is because I'm also going to
have you give the audience some homework.
I'd like you to tell them, you know, you can always call a
congressional member and let them know that you're going to
tell your friends and family to not vote for them.

(01:00:53):
If they don't fix this. You can leave a, you know, a
very short message on their lineand say, if you don't cut this
bullshit out, I'm going to make sure in the next election my 30
or 40 family members are not going to vote for you.
It's one of the ways you can tryto intimidate them, you know, to
leave those kind of messages. I do them all the time.
They probably hate my guts. I'll tell them I'm going to
expose your ass if you don't fixthis.

(01:01:14):
So why do you think that those people are still allowing this
to continue when they know that the Trump administration wants
to put an end to it? So with NIH Director Jay
Bhattacharyya, you know, he was appointed, nominated by the
Senate, appointed by Trump to take over the NIH.
He was a COVID contrarian. You know, he he challenged

(01:01:36):
lockdowns early on and he was really maligned for it.
And I think he wants to redeem himself and earn back the
respect of the scientific community.
And so he it does not have the slash and burn approach that
Trump and I think RFK to some degree have with regard to the
NIH, just see it as irreparable,you know, irredeemable.

(01:01:57):
And I think the NIH is in a lot of ways irredeemable.
There is just so much corruptionand ways for I think it's time.
To fire him is a time for the Trump administration to replace
him already because he's not doing the job he was brought in
to do. I think he needs a stern talking
to and, you know, some of the some of the decisions he's made
about, you know, replacing Fauciwith another gain of function
lunatic who helped cover up the COVID lab leak.

(01:02:20):
He's made animal testing czar out of a Obama holdover who is a
Fauci actor. Sounds like lots of bad choices,
right? It sounds like he's continuing
the NI HS criminality. He's just he's the legacy of
Fauci continues on through this guy.
Sounds to me like he needs to go, you know, once in a while
Scavino and Donald Trump watch this show.

(01:02:42):
So my thing would be like, look,you guys made a mistake.
You put the guy, the wrong guy in place.
Let's get rid of him and replacehim because it sounds like he's
just another Fauci style trader.I would recommend boot his ass
out and let's find somebody else.
Maybe ask Justin who might be a good appointment because
continuing to waste the Americanpublic's money like.
This is just. You know, I, I, you know, I see

(01:03:02):
a vision for a future. Without the, you know, animal
testing, government animal testing.
I think it's unnecessary. And I think as the, the, the,
the modelling that AI and quantum computing can do, I
think a lot of this kind of testing is going to be
unnecessary because it's going to be able to do the work of,
you know, thousands of tests andthousands of human beings in
matter of seconds and determine what the outcomes are going to

(01:03:24):
be without any of it. Yeah, and I know Jay.
I know Jay for a long time. We were very excited when he got
when he got appointed to the role and got nominated and got
confirmed by the Senate. He took over on March 31st.
We're almost six months in. He's made a lot of empty
promises about cutting animal testing.
He's saying that they're lookingat investing in moving towards

(01:03:46):
reducing animal testing. Meanwhile, the other agencies,
they're overnight just cutting these programs.
It doesn't take a. Lot of, you know, when people
start telling me they're investigating, we're
researching, we're holding a committee or a panel, to me,
that's just a bunch of bullshit.You know, if you want to
actively fix something, it's very simple, especially when
you're the head guy and you're in charge.

(01:04:07):
You just cut it off at the neck and then you figure out anybody
that tells me that they they've got to investigate and think
about it and research and they're in panelling.
Normally that's a total crock ofcrap.
It never goes anywhere. And to me, it's just.
It's a major. It's yeah, it's just
stonewalling. Let's talk about.
I want to give you time. Yeah.

(01:04:28):
I just want to say one thing. You know, he and his deputy had
they didn't after pressure from us, Laura Loomer and some
others, they did. AJ does a podcast every week,
maybe every week, where he he features somebody.
Last week, he featured the his replacement for Fauci.
But who's this also problematic.But he and his deputy who he
made his animal testings are recently said, you know, all

(01:04:48):
these problems predate them. Meanwhile, we're tracking brand
new contracts and grants every week that have happened since
then. And with regard to Congress and
Republicans and the Senate refusing to cut the NIH budget,
it's because they are beholden to the colleges and universities
and the professors and all thesemad scientists who work in their
state and district. They're bringing in billions of

(01:05:09):
dollars for animal testing. So for them, this is a cash cow.
Why would they? Why would they cut the funding
off? They don't care about animals.
They care about getting re elected.
Yeah, tell him he's more than welcome to have George and I on
his podcast. I'll volunteer to come on.
He may not like the result because I'll call out his
bullshit on spot. I'll probably cut the feed at

(01:05:29):
the end of the day, but that's the problem, right?
If you if you if you if you run a show.
We put on pretty much people from both sides of the aisle.
We put on contrarians on this show.
I'm ready to challenge any of them on a discussion.
If they've got facts, they can make an outman us, but they're
not willing to do that right? They've always got to have yes
men around them. And at the end of the day, you
can talk the talk, but are you walking the walk?
Sounds like he's not walking thewalk.

(01:05:50):
We don't have enough time. Donald Trump's in here only for
a four year term. We've already burned up.
You know, whatever it is now six, 7-8 months.
It's time that action speaks louder than words.
So let me give you a chance to George, you got I I want to make
sure George, you got anything out in the chat or anything you
want to mention? Here, no, I put up the website
for him. OK, so tell me where the go

(01:06:11):
ahead and let's do the shamelessplug part.
How can people get involved? Where can they support you?
And then finally, I want you to give our audience some homework.
I want them to pick up the phonetoday and leave a shitty message
for all their senators and congressmen, state and federal,
and tell them that they're goingto tell their entire family
members to not vote for them. And they've got you can tell.

(01:06:32):
You can exaggerate your families.
You can tell them you got 50-60 people in your family and you're
going to tell them how they support torturing kittens with
having marbles shoved up their asses.
Let's go ahead and have the audience.
I want you to give me some homework, Justin at after you do
everything else and plug everything that you need for
support. All right, yeah.
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(01:06:56):
Virtually all of our revenue comes from small dollar
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(01:07:18):
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We don't take a, you know, we walk the walk and talk the talk.

(01:07:39):
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fighting the good fight. We don't have galas.
We don't do any of that wastefulstuff.
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So White Coat waste.org and we're on all the social
platforms at White Coat Waste. We're very active on X.
We post on Instagram, we have videos up on YouTube, Facebook,

(01:08:21):
and any other social platform. And then for me personally, I
think we mentioned the beginningat Justin R Goodman.
If you want to go on X and follow me there and see me
talking shit about how the government's, you know,
torturing animals with our moneyand giving people ways to take
action. Are you guys on true social?
We, I think, have a truth social, but I don't know that

(01:08:42):
we're very. You should work that because
you'd be surprised how much Davino and Trump pay attention
to what's in the feed over there.
You might be surprised if you put up some of that stuff
talking about what's still goingon and how people that that are,
you know, in, you know, land pocket still.
Here's my prediction because we all know Trump watches his show
from time to time because sometimes we talk about stuff
and boom, all something happened.

(01:09:03):
So Trump, let's go make this happen.
Get rid of this freaking animal testing once and for all.
We'll see what. Happens.
We'd love that. Thank you, George.
Yeah. And his you know, he probably
knows this already, but the first family are big supporters
of ours. Don Junior, Eric Lara Trump have
all been supporters of white coat for a long time.
Sharing our content, doing, you know, Lara's, you know, was a

(01:09:26):
big support of black during the first Yeah.
Huge animal person, so yeah. She was just hanging out.
With cows or something this weekend or some shit.
So that Laura Loomer was. Hanging out with cows.
Lara Trump. Yeah, Lara Trump.
She's been doing a lot of work with us together.
Laura Loomer is such a great animal advocate.
She and I talk, you know, whenever she's posting to save

(01:09:46):
some animal that's on death row or otherwise.
We reposted. She, she and I chat once in a
while about it because. I appreciate how she puts her
money where her mouth is when itcomes to animals and we try to
do the same thing. So, so let me say this to the
audience. Make sure, number one, you
follow his accounts, Justin R Goodman and of course, white
Coat waste. I would recommend you guys get
on true social and start postingyour content regularly, not

(01:10:09):
necessarily because of the growth that's available there,
but because I know that Donald Trump pays close attention to
what comes into the fees there. And I think that if you got
reposted over there, we'd help you get reposted.
We'd try to do what we can. To get you in front of him.
We know that. Let me read some of our posts.
We've had some interaction. My point is, is I think that
would get you right on top of itbecause this is a bunch of

(01:10:29):
bullshit. It's continued government waste.
You know, you and you guys know,does this make any common sense
to you? And you know, and again, I don't
need to repeat myself, but shoving marbles up kittens
asses, I don't think this is a top priority for government
spending. We've got veterans living on the
street. There's lots of other things
that are getting impacted. So the work that Justin is

(01:10:50):
doing, you know, make a financial contribution, repost
his content, reposting and getting this stuff to go viral.
Take his content right now. If he's not on true social, take
it off X, post it on true social, Post it on Getter, post
it on Gab, all that stuff, that repetitive stuff.
And then I I've got some homework for the audience, for
the big, big mafia and subscribers and the listeners.
I'm not giving, I don't give homework away so he could be

(01:11:12):
back. A little.
Homework. I want you to pick up a phone
today, and I want you to leave aa message for your senators and
congressmen and your States and tell them that they don't fix
this. You're going to make sure your
entire family doesn't vote for them.
And then maybe graphically let them know you don't want to see
any more kittens being tortured,any monkeys having their brains
splashed with acid, that AnthonyFauci is a criminalist.

(01:11:33):
As far as you're concerned. Leave that message and let them
know that you're going to tell all your friends and family
members, you're going to post iton social media.
If they don't fix this, you're going to try to make sure they
don't get re elected. And that includes people on both
sides of the aisle. If we don't work together, it's
never going to happen. So of course, Justin, first of
all, thank you so very much for joining the show.
If you get some commercials overthe George, we'll run them for

(01:11:54):
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We don't want anything for it. We're not looking for any kind
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That's what it's about. And of course, if you guys like
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Take the short form, take the long form, grow your own social
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(01:12:15):
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And if you like the show, if youcan do the $5 subscription,
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And don't forget this week we'vegot the Crypto Power Hour, 3:00
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Let's make animals great again. You all have a blessed day.
We'll catch you tomorrow, 11 AM Eastern.
Justin, it's been a. Pleasure.
You stick around for a minute, Justin.
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